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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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BULLOCKS!
I thought the increase in education improves the iq of society as a whole. So why is there and increase in people that believe the earth is flat.
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The ink is black
The page is white
Together we learn to read and write
A child is black
A child is white
A whole world looks upon the sight
A beautiful sight
And now a child can understand
That this is the law of all the land
All the land
The world is black
The world is white
It turns by day and then by night
A child is black
A child is white
Together they grow to see the light
To see the light
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The ink is black
The page is white
Together we learn to read and write
A child is black
A child is white
A whole world looks upon the sight
A beautiful sight
And now a child can understand
That this is the law of all the land
All the land
The world is black
The world is white
It turns by day and then by night
A child is black
A child is white
Together they grow to see the light
To see the light
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you forgot the line
Newcastle play in Black & White
The Sunderland team are utter Shite  |
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"The ink is black
The page is white
Together we learn to read and write
A child is black
A child is white
A whole world looks upon the sight
A beautiful sight
And now a child can understand
That this is the law of all the land
All the land
The world is black
The world is white
It turns by day and then by night
A child is black
A child is white
Together they grow to see the light
To see the light
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I used to sing that in primary school. One of my favourite hymns |
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"BULLOCKS!
I thought the increase in education improves the iq of society as a whole. So why is there and increase in people that believe the earth is flat.
..maybe you've been breeding too much "
That's not very nice |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Some people just like to think differently, there's nothing wrong with that, it's part of the wonderful fabric of life.
It's when people try to force their views onto others that the real harm is done. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Ok first thing first I’m a non believer in the flat earth theory, however I have travelled with Work mainly in the Far East. To be honest I have never seen the curvature of the earth!!
Never!!
Look out of the window in a plane on s planet that is supposed to be 7900 miles in dis, at 5400 ft approx 1 mile surely you should see the curvature? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I LOVE "flat earthers" They amuse me so much.
Flat earth!!!
Ask Argentina, Brazil, Peru and the likes... AND Australia, New Zealand and South Africa if they think the earth is flat.
If you have to ask why your a flat earther. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Flat earthers believe in the Pac Man effect. Which is that when you get to the edge on east side you reappear on the west side.They believe this mostly because they are imbeciles. |
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By *imbo59seMan
over a year ago
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"BULLOCKS!
I thought the increase in education improves the iq of society as a whole. So why is there and increase in people that believe the earth is flat.
What have cows got to do with it?  "
Nothing at all! Bullocks are by definition male, cows are by definition female
Sorry......Mr Pedantic strikes again.....I'll get my coat |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Flat earthers believe in the Pac Man effect. Which is that when you get to the edge on east side you reappear on the west side.They believe this mostly because they are imbeciles. "
the bunch on tv this morning were complete imbeciles..could barely string a coherent sentence together between the 3 of them..it was funny, but not so funny when you consider there are people out there stupid enough to listen to their drivel! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Flat earthers believe in the Pac Man effect. Which is that when you get to the edge on east side you reappear on the west side.They believe this mostly because they are imbeciles.
the bunch on tv this morning were complete imbeciles..could barely string a coherent sentence together between the 3 of them..it was funny, but not so funny when you consider there are people out there stupid enough to listen to their drivel!"
spot on I dont know why we even listen to these pricks |
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By *imbo59seMan
over a year ago
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"Flat earthers believe in the Pac Man effect. Which is that when you get to the edge on east side you reappear on the west side.They believe this mostly because they are imbeciles.
the bunch on tv this morning were complete imbeciles..could barely string a coherent sentence together between the 3 of them..it was funny, but not so funny when you consider there are people out there stupid enough to listen to their drivel!"
They live amongst us........and breed !!
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The ink is black
The page is white
Together we learn to read and write
A child is black
A child is white
A whole world looks upon the sight
A beautiful sight
And now a child can understand
That this is the law of all the land
All the land
The world is black
The world is white
It turns by day and then by night
A child is black
A child is white
Together they grow to see the light
To see the light
I used to sing that in primary school. One of my favourite hymns "
It's amazing what pops into my head sometimes when I read something lol  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Some people just like to think differently, there's nothing wrong with that, it's part of the wonderful fabric of life.
It's when people try to force their views onto others that the real harm is done."
I very much agree with this.  |
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By *lue NarwhalMan
over a year ago
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"BULLOCKS!
I thought the increase in education improves the iq of society as a whole. So why is there and increase in people that believe the earth is flat.
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Op, have you not learnt your lesson yet?
Stop visiting Norwich and you won't encounter the flat earthers or people that throw stones at the moon.... |
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"The earth is round NASA says so, oh and we landed on the moon Though a good percentage of the population believe that was a hoax and never happened "
Not many do to be fair
Considering America's biggest rival in the race to the moon was Russia, they would be the first to scream hoax. They didn't because they tracked the whole mission.
Got remember the facts are there but the conspiracy loons choose to ignore them or have crazy theories to dispell them with less evidence than the original fact |
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"The earth is round NASA says so, oh and we landed on the moon Though a good percentage of the population believe that was a hoax and never happened
Not many do to be fair
Considering America's biggest rival in the race to the moon was Russia, they would be the first to scream hoax. They didn't because they tracked the whole mission.
Got remember the facts are there but the conspiracy loons choose to ignore them or have crazy theories to dispell them with less evidence than the original fact "
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By (user no longer on site)
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There are some things that everybody knows.
Everyone knows the earth is flat.
Everyone knows the moon is made of cheese.
Everyone knows that all meerkats are Russian. |
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"Flat earthers believe in the Pac Man effect. Which is that when you get to the edge on east side you reappear on the west side.They believe this mostly because they are imbeciles.
the bunch on tv this morning were complete imbeciles..could barely string a coherent sentence together between the 3 of them..it was funny, but not so funny when you consider there are people out there stupid enough to listen to their drivel!"
The imeciles of this world amaze me there are still millions (and living outside of an asylum) who believe that some 2000 years ago a pair of Penguins walked unaided from the South Pole to the Middle East in order to board a ship commonly known as an Ark! Does make you think |
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"The ink is black
The page is white
Together we learn to read and write
A child is black
A child is white
A whole world looks upon the sight
A beautiful sight
And now a child can understand
That this is the law of all the land
All the land
The world is black
The world is white
It turns by day and then by night
A child is black
A child is white
Together they grow to see the light
To see the light
I used to sing that in primary school. One of my favourite hymns
It's amazing what pops into my head sometimes when I read something lol "
The worst thing is that I was reading it with the tune in my head too! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Flat earthers believe in the Pac Man effect. Which is that when you get to the edge on east side you reappear on the west side.They believe this mostly because they are imbeciles.
the bunch on tv this morning were complete imbeciles..could barely string a coherent sentence together between the 3 of them..it was funny, but not so funny when you consider there are people out there stupid enough to listen to their drivel!
The imeciles of this world amaze me there are still millions (and living outside of an asylum) who believe that some 2000 years ago a pair of Penguins walked unaided from the South Pole to the Middle East in order to board a ship commonly known as an Ark! Does make you think "
They might have swam some of the way |
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"Flat earthers believe in the Pac Man effect. Which is that when you get to the edge on east side you reappear on the west side.They believe this mostly because they are imbeciles.
the bunch on tv this morning were complete imbeciles..could barely string a coherent sentence together between the 3 of them..it was funny, but not so funny when you consider there are people out there stupid enough to listen to their drivel!
The imeciles of this world amaze me there are still millions (and living outside of an asylum) who believe that some 2000 years ago a pair of Penguins walked unaided from the South Pole to the Middle East in order to board a ship commonly known as an Ark! Does make you think
They might have swam some of the way "
Shit not thought of that would that make the journey feasable them? PMSL |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"BULLOCKS!
I thought the increase in education improves the iq of society as a whole. So why is there and increase in people that believe the earth is
Op, have you not learnt your lesson yet?
Stop visiting Norwich and you won't encounter the flat earthers or people that throw stones at the moon.... "
I'll keep their congregation point on the horizon |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The same reason people believe I god. It’s just what they believe.
Are you God??? "
Don't know about him being God but Jesus used to be on here.
Come to think of it, does anyone know what happened to that bloke? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Skeptics,
Whilst it’s good to be skeptical. Skeptism should be rooted in facts.
There are a lot of experiments to prove that the earth is spherical, some people just do not have the time to find out. |
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"BULLOCKS!
I thought the increase in education improves the iq of society as a whole. So why is there and increase in people that believe the earth is flat.
Op, have you not learnt your lesson yet?
Stop visiting Norwich and you won't encounter the flat earthers or people that throw stones at the moon.... "
Why Norwich in particular? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ok first thing first I’m a non believer in the flat earth theory, however I have travelled with Work mainly in the Far East. To be honest I have never seen the curvature of the earth!!
Never!!
Look out of the window in a plane on s planet that is supposed to be 7900 miles in dis, at 5400 ft approx 1 mile surely you should see the curvature?"
No one seems to have remarked on this
Plus the earth is supposed to be spinning at 1200 miles an hour , how do planes manage to land in the right places?
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ok first thing first I’m a non believer in the flat earth theory, however I have travelled with Work mainly in the Far East. To be honest I have never seen the curvature of the earth!!
Never!!
Look out of the window in a plane on s planet that is supposed to be 7900 miles in dis, at 5400 ft approx 1 mile surely you should see the curvature?
No one seems to have remarked on this
Plus the earth is supposed to be spinning at 1200 miles an hour , how do planes manage to land in the right places?
?? "
For the same reason that if you stand at the front of a train doing 100 mph and jump, you don't fly through the back window. |
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"I did suggest to a flat earther that i would believe him on one condition, that he'd walk to the edge, peer over and take a photo of what he saw.
I'm still waiting for my photo.........."
Oh fuck, what if he tried and fell off............ |
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"Skeptics,
Whilst it’s good to be skeptical. Skeptism should be rooted in facts.
There are a lot of experiments to prove that the earth is spherical, some people just do not have the time to find out."
Time or the want
Things like believing in this are cult like or religion like.
No amount of showing facts to people will change their mind. They twist the evidence to suit their belief.
It is exactly like religion. The facts without doubt prove that God and all the rest is absolute bollocks bit people will carry on.
The flat earthers are a special breed. Im still not sure any of them actually believe it as the stupidity is just beyond what is possible .
If someone can't see it's a globe when your own eyes tell you. No one will ever convince them.
Best thing to do is just sit back and mock them for being stupid cunts |
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"Flat earthers believe in the Pac Man effect. Which is that when you get to the edge on east side you reappear on the west side.They believe this mostly because they are imbeciles.
the bunch on tv this morning were complete imbeciles..could barely string a coherent sentence together between the 3 of them..it was funny, but not so funny when you consider there are people out there stupid enough to listen to their drivel!
The imeciles of this world amaze me there are still millions (and living outside of an asylum) who believe that some 2000 years ago a pair of Penguins walked unaided from the South Pole to the Middle East in order to board a ship commonly known as an Ark! Does make you think
They might have swam some of the way
Shit not thought of that would that make the journey feasable them? PMSL "
Why do they need to go on the ark in a flood when they can swim anyway?? |
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"So if the earth is flat, why are the other planets round?"
They are all a flat disc.
I'm getting confused now.
Against a flat earth - The sea would spill off the edge if it was flat.
For a flat earth - imagine being at sea and out of sight of land. You look forward and see the curvature of the earth. You turn 90 degrees and see the same. If you turn back halfway (45 degree position), you should see a dip between the two curves. You don't - Boom! |
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I heard this on Radio 2 with Jeremy Vine, Jeremy asked why all the water doesnt just run off the flat earth and this clown said its because there are ice walls and mountains at the edge to hold it all in and that Nasa and the governments are all conspiring not to tell us the truth about the world being flat.
I'm sure if it is flat it is held on the back of 4 great elephants that sit on the back of a world turtle called great a'tuin that is hurtling through time and space..
I know this to be true as terry pratchett told us so. |
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For a flat earth - Australians would fall off if the earth was round.
Against a flat earth - if you took a direct flight from the north pole to the south pole, all routes would be the same distance.
My mate Dave has one of those drinks cabinets with a lift up lid that's like the world and that's round not flat, so the earth must be round.
Anyway who has got the biggest tits on here? |
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"Flat earthers believe in the Pac Man effect. Which is that when you get to the edge on east side you reappear on the west side.They believe this mostly because they are imbeciles.
the bunch on tv this morning were complete imbeciles..could barely string a coherent sentence together between the 3 of them..it was funny, but not so funny when you consider there are people out there stupid enough to listen to their drivel!
The imeciles of this world amaze me there are still millions (and living outside of an asylum) who believe that some 2000 years ago a pair of Penguins walked unaided from the South Pole to the Middle East in order to board a ship commonly known as an Ark! Does make you think
They might have swam some of the way
Shit not thought of that would that make the journey feasable them? PMSL
Why do they need to go on the ark in a flood when they can swim anyway??"
Why indeed?? But we are given to u derstand that they did |
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"The earth is round NASA says so, oh and we landed on the moon Though a good percentage of the population believe that was a hoax and never happened "
That's nice to know. A goodly percent of the population voting for elimination from voting, breeding etc. |
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"Ok first thing first I’m a non believer in the flat earth theory, however I have travelled with Work mainly in the Far East. To be honest I have never seen the curvature of the earth!!
Never!!
Look out of the window in a plane on s planet that is supposed to be 7900 miles in dis, at 5400 ft approx 1 mile surely you should see the curvature?
"Surely you should see the curvature?"
Nope, to be able to see the curvature you need to be at least at some 37,000 feet and even then it is only just discernible if you have a clear horizon and a wide field of view. Go higher (as many military aircraft do daily) and the curve is easy to see. From the ISS (up at some 250 miles it's not even a question of looking: the curvature is right in your face.
Try here for a fighter plane view (English Electric Lightning):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyjZ0besnYY
quote: "The horizon is a pronounced curve of light blue becoming progressively darker until directly above, a circle of black sky appears, and with it, the edge of space." ~ Rupert Smith, Lightning alum
No one seems to have remarked on this
Plus the earth is supposed to be spinning at 1200 miles an hour , how do planes manage to land in the right places?
??
You do realise that just to complicate your thought re that 1200mph that it only applies at the equator? As you go north or south from the equator the speed decreases until at the poles it is 0mph as you are simply rotating on your axis at 1 rev every 24 hours.
Methinks you need to dig deeper into the physics of the problem. "
I don't think a clairvoyant would be much help. |
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"Ok first thing first I’m a non believer in the flat earth theory, however I have travelled with Work mainly in the Far East. To be honest I have never seen the curvature of the earth!!
Never!!
Look out of the window in a plane on s planet that is supposed to be 7900 miles in dis, at 5400 ft approx 1 mile surely you should see the curvature?
No one seems to have remarked on this
Plus the earth is supposed to be spinning at 1200 miles an hour , how do planes manage to land in the right places?
?? "
Reposting reply as messaging inside a quote messes up the layout! Sorry!
"Surely you should see the curvature?"
Nope, to be able to see the curvature you need to be at least at some 37,000 feet and even then it is only just discernible if you have a clear horizon and a wide field of view.
Go higher (as many military aircraft do daily) and the curve is easy to see. From the ISS (up at some 250 miles it's not even a question of looking: the curvature is right in your face.
Try here for a fighter plane view (English Electric Lightning):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyjZ0besnYY
quote: "The horizon is a pronounced curve of light blue becoming progressively darker until directly above, a circle of black sky appears, and with it, the edge of space." ~ Rupert Smith, Lightning alum
You do realise that just to complicate your thought re that 1200mph that it only applies at the equator? As you go north or south from the equator the speed decreases until at the poles it is 0mph as you are simply rotating on your axis at 1 rev every 24 hours.
Methinks you need to dig deeper into the physics of the problem. |
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"Flat earthers believe in the Pac Man effect. Which is that when you get to the edge on east side you reappear on the west side.They believe this mostly because they are imbeciles.
the bunch on tv this morning were complete imbeciles..could barely string a coherent sentence together between the 3 of them..it was funny, but not so funny when you consider there are people out there stupid enough to listen to their drivel!
The imeciles of this world amaze me there are still millions (and living outside of an asylum) who believe that some 2000 years ago a pair of Penguins walked unaided from the South Pole to the Middle East in order to board a ship commonly known as an Ark! Does make you think "
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Penguins are from south Africa in the main!.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"BULLOCKS!
I thought the increase in education improves the iq of society as a whole. So why is there and increase in people that believe the earth is flat.
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Ignorance is bliss? |
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"Ok first thing first I’m a non believer in the flat earth theory, however I have travelled with Work mainly in the Far East. To be honest I have never seen the curvature of the earth!!
Never!!
Look out of the window in a plane on s planet that is supposed to be 7900 miles in dis, at 5400 ft approx 1 mile surely you should see the curvature?
No one seems to have remarked on this
Plus the earth is supposed to be spinning at 1200 miles an hour , how do planes manage to land in the right places?
??
Reposting reply as messaging inside a quote messes up the layout! Sorry!
"Surely you should see the curvature?"
Nope, to be able to see the curvature you need to be at least at some 37,000 feet and even then it is only just discernible if you have a clear horizon and a wide field of view.
Go higher (as many military aircraft do daily) and the curve is easy to see. From the ISS (up at some 250 miles it's not even a question of looking: the curvature is right in your face.
Try here for a fighter plane view (English Electric Lightning):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyjZ0besnYY
quote: "The horizon is a pronounced curve of light blue becoming progressively darker until directly above, a circle of black sky appears, and with it, the edge of space." ~ Rupert Smith, Lightning alum
You do realise that just to complicate your thought re that 1200mph that it only applies at the equator? As you go north or south from the equator the speed decreases until at the poles it is 0mph as you are simply rotating on your axis at 1 rev every 24 hours.
Methinks you need to dig deeper into the physics of the problem. "
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It's actually only 900mph and the effect is called the Coriolis, the best way to think about it is two people on a merry go round one at the centre and one on the edge, when throwing a ball between the two people it wouldn't travel in a straight line but a slight arc.
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"The earth is round NASA says so, oh and we landed on the moon Though a good percentage of the population believe that was a hoax and never happened "
I've had sex, but a good percentage of fabbers believe it was a hoax and never happened. |
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"The earth is round NASA says so, oh and we landed on the moon Though a good percentage of the population believe that was a hoax and never happened
I've had sex, but a good percentage of fabbers believe it was a hoax and never happened."
I think the earth being flat is far more likely |
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"BULLOCKS!
I thought the increase in education improves the iq of society as a whole. So why is there and increase in people that believe the earth is flat.
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It's almost as if people enjoy arguing. |
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"BULLOCKS!
I thought the increase in education improves the iq of society as a whole. So why is there and increase in people that believe the earth is flat.
It's almost as if people enjoy arguing."
Never...! |
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"I heard this on Radio 2 with Jeremy Vine, Jeremy asked why all the water doesnt just run off the flat earth and this clown said its because there are ice walls and mountains at the edge to hold it all in and that Nasa and the governments are all conspiring not to tell us the truth about the world being flat.
I'm sure if it is flat it is held on the back of 4 great elephants that sit on the back of a world turtle called great a'tuin that is hurtling through time and space..
I know this to be true as terry pratchett told us so. "
Why would they
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"Ok first thing first I’m a non believer in the flat earth theory, however I have travelled with Work mainly in the Far East. To be honest I have never seen the curvature of the earth!!
Never!!
Look out of the window in a plane on s planet that is supposed to be 7900 miles in dis, at 5400 ft approx 1 mile surely you should see the curvature?
No one seems to have remarked on this
Plus the earth is supposed to be spinning at 1200 miles an hour , how do planes manage to land in the right places?
??
Reposting reply as messaging inside a quote messes up the layout! Sorry!
"Surely you should see the curvature?"
Nope, to be able to see the curvature you need to be at least at some 37,000 feet and even then it is only just discernible if you have a clear horizon and a wide field of view.
Go higher (as many military aircraft do daily) and the curve is easy to see. From the ISS (up at some 250 miles it's not even a question of looking: the curvature is right in your face.
Try here for a fighter plane view (English Electric Lightning):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyjZ0besnYY
quote: "The horizon is a pronounced curve of light blue becoming progressively darker until directly above, a circle of black sky appears, and with it, the edge of space." ~ Rupert Smith, Lightning alum
You do realise that just to complicate your thought re that 1200mph that it only applies at the equator? As you go north or south from the equator the speed decreases until at the poles it is 0mph as you are simply rotating on your axis at 1 rev every 24 hours.
Methinks you need to dig deeper into the physics of the problem. "
Thanks for that now I know |
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Some people are so desperate for specific types of attention that they'll feign belief in anything, or do almost anything to get it. I'm guessing that there are probably less intelligent and sane-minded people than I can count on one hand that truly understand the earth to be flat. |
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"Ok first thing first I’m a non believer in the flat earth theory, however I have travelled with Work mainly in the Far East. To be honest I have never seen the curvature of the earth!!
Never!!
Look out of the window in a plane on s planet that is supposed to be 7900 miles in dis, at 5400 ft approx 1 mile surely you should see the curvature?
No one seems to have remarked on this
Plus the earth is supposed to be spinning at 1200 miles an hour , how do planes manage to land in the right places?
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Reposting reply as messaging inside a quote messes up the layout! Sorry!
"Surely you should see the curvature?"
Nope, to be able to see the curvature you need to be at least at some 37,000 feet and even then it is only just discernible if you have a clear horizon and a wide field of view.
Go higher (as many military aircraft do daily) and the curve is easy to see. From the ISS (up at some 250 miles it's not even a question of looking: the curvature is right in your face.
Try here for a fighter plane view (English Electric Lightning):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyjZ0besnYY
quote: "The horizon is a pronounced curve of light blue becoming progressively darker until directly above, a circle of black sky appears, and with it, the edge of space." ~ Rupert Smith, Lightning alum
You do realise that just to complicate your thought re that 1200mph that it only applies at the equator? As you go north or south from the equator the speed decreases until at the poles it is 0mph as you are simply rotating on your axis at 1 rev every 24 hours.
Methinks you need to dig deeper into the physics of the problem.
Thanks for that now I know"
If you knew that then you should also know that planes move relative to the atmosphere which spins with the Earth...so when you take off the ground spin away below you |
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"I'm embarrassed to say that those 200 fuckwits had their convention in my fair city......apologies to all their you go the big man has spoken "
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"I'm embarrassed to say that those 200 fuckwits had their convention in my fair city......apologies to all "
I believe they were also going to have a post-convention party...but the whole idea went flat when they found out the cost of getting flat champagne  |
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"The ink is black
The page is white
Together we learn to read and write
A child is black
A child is white
A whole world looks upon the sight
A beautiful sight
And now a child can understand
That this is the law of all the land
All the land
The world is black
The world is white
It turns by day and then by night
A child is black
A child is white
Together they grow to see the light
To see the light
I used to sing that in primary school. One of my favourite hymns "
I always liked...
Dance then wherever you maybe I am the Lord of the Dance said he...
No reason for saying that other than it has the same relevance as believing the Earth is flat..
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It's actually only 900mph and the effect is called the Coriolis, the best way to think about it is two people on a merry go round one at the centre and one on the edge, when throwing a ball between the two people it wouldn't travel in a straight line but a slight arc.
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You need to be a bit more specific there given the poster we are replying to expressed a problem with this.
Actual speed at equator is 1,040 miles/hour.
Coriolis effect is actually the effect of the earth's rotation on the atmosphere surrounding it. |
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