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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Why are we suppressing one of the single simplest, cheapest and most effective tactics we have in the war against this pandemic? We should be encouraging Everyone to wear a mask. |
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"Why are we suppressing one of the single simplest, cheapest and most effective tactics we have in the war against this pandemic? We should be encouraging Everyone to wear a mask. "
Because we don't even have enough of them for the health service, they're useless unless fit tested and used by people with a basic grasp of infection control, they cause bad habits to form if worn for extended periods by untrained users. P3 masks aren't even that cheap...
Seriously - keep your distance and wash your hands. It'll go a lot further. |
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"Why are we suppressing one of the single simplest, cheapest and most effective tactics we have in the war against this pandemic? We should be encouraging Everyone to wear a mask. "
You dont need to wear a mask unless you're within 2metres of people.
What you really need to win this war is self isolation and lockdown.
What the government needs to help is win this is to have locked us down months ago yes months ago atleast late january and to have got underway with testing testing testing.
If someone such as me could have seen this pandemic coming from mid january at the latest and began making plans for 12 to 18months of isolation (yes this long) then why couldn't the uk government?
So many ridiculed me for walking around with gloves on and taking this very seriously during February especially in Europe when I travelled there and now look at the state of the world.
So many here ignored my warnings and advice and I had said to so many we would be in lockdown they didnt believe me here or elsewhere and finally we are.
To win this battle we have to use common sense so why or why is it in such short supply amongst the british public? 
Stay safe! Peace! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Why are we suppressing one of the single simplest, cheapest and most effective tactics we have in the war against this pandemic? We should be encouraging Everyone to wear a mask. "
Gimp mask? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Three weeks since I posted this thread and now face masks to be made compulsory across Germany and many other countries. How many more deaths it will take for our government to decide |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Why are we suppressing one of the single simplest, cheapest and most effective tactics we have in the war against this pandemic? We should be encouraging Everyone to wear a mask.
You dont need to wear a mask unless you're within 2metres of people.
What you really need to win this war is self isolation and lockdown.
What the government needs to help is win this is to have locked us down months ago yes months ago atleast late january and to have got underway with testing testing testing.
If someone such as me could have seen this pandemic coming from mid january at the latest and began making plans for 12 to 18months of isolation (yes this long) then why couldn't the uk government?
So many ridiculed me for walking around with gloves on and taking this very seriously during February especially in Europe when I travelled there and now look at the state of the world.
So many here ignored my warnings and advice and I had said to so many we would be in lockdown they didnt believe me here or elsewhere and finally we are.
To win this battle we have to use common sense so why or why is it in such short supply amongst the british public?
Stay safe! Peace!"
So you were one of those that cleared all the shelves with your stock piling then 
Did you make the same preparations for SARS and Ebola? If not it would be interesting to know how you were able to predict this disease would escalate in a way that they didn’t, all the way back in january ... i would love a go of your crystal ball |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I’m not saying surgical masks. Any mask or face covering can stop the spread of virus. Scarf bandana, Cotton t shirts or homemade etc. Wuhan lockdown started 23rd January and this warning was posted on 29th January. https://youtu.be/Yq3Y9rmlEQE
Anyone with half a brain could have predict back in january except WHO.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I’m not saying surgical masks. Any mask or face covering can stop the spread of virus. Scarf bandana, Cotton t shirts or homemade etc. Wuhan lockdown started 23rd January and this warning was posted on 29th January. https://youtu.be/Yq3Y9rmlEQE
Anyone with half a brain could have predict back in january except WHO. "
My response was to _sianmanc who appears to have stockpiled for 18 months in mid january ... thats a hell of a prediction before any global location went into lockdown |
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"I’m not saying surgical masks. Any mask or face covering can stop the spread of virus. Scarf bandana, Cotton t shirts or homemade etc. Wuhan lockdown started 23rd January and this warning was posted on 29th January. https://youtu.be/Yq3Y9rmlEQE
Anyone with half a brain could have predict back in january except WHO. "
To be fair I was in Italy just before the virus took hold there... and when I flew into Italy. No masks... no checks no nothing. Malta.. still no masks but they were screening all passengers for temperatures and symptoms... return to the UK... nothing and as I'd at that point been below the exclusion zone by a few miles was told no need to self isolate. But didnt see masks on my travels much. 3 people had them on my plane back to the uk and a gent kicked off accusing them of having something to hide. |
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"Why are we suppressing one of the single simplest, cheapest and most effective tactics we have in the war against this pandemic? We should be encouraging Everyone to wear a mask.
Gimp mask?"
haha
Seriously though, we just need to observe the guidelines laid out by stay at home and only go out when necessary.
I'm guessing it applies nationally but in the NHS those working with patients have been tested months ago in relation to the masks required and some of the people just aren't suitable for the acute provision of care that ITU staff need. Their faces don't fit the requirements of the mask to provide sufficient protection to the wearer. And there in lays the nub; unless there is a programme of fitment on these, there is no guarantee of any proper protection.
Stay at home is the best way to avoid this. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I’m not saying surgical masks. Any mask or face covering can stop the spread of virus. Scarf bandana, Cotton t shirts or homemade etc. Wuhan lockdown started 23rd January and this warning was posted on 29th January. https://youtu.be/Yq3Y9rmlEQE
Anyone with half a brain could have predict back in january except WHO. "
I really don’t get why we go to the expense of employing scientists, economists and all the other experts when the government could just look at the Fab forums.
Get ready for some new accounts. BonkingBoris. ShatterStarmer. GimpGove.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It grates me to see Joe blogs in face masks when at work I have to ration them out to people who actually do need them "
Plus the ones who wear them in public, and wear gloves just throw them on the floor when getting in cars. Car parks are littered with them. |
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It appears that the latest advice will be that wearing masks is not required. Not because they would be ineffective but because there simply aren't enough. Of course, those in the front line should have access to the limited stocks before the general public but, if we aren't wearing masks, does a scarf,bandana or homemade mask protect us at all? Or does it just make us feel safer? |
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By *etLikeMan
over a year ago
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Imagine you have a cold. One of those horrible snotty ones and then imagine you have only one tissue to last you all day.
Imagine now being nearby that person with only one tissue.
So unless masks are properly used, there is a real risk of them making the risk worse.
Also try wearing a suitable mask for a long period of time. I watched someone having a conversation with someone else in the car park behind my house. The one without the mask talked and didn’t touch his face. The one with one, was touching his and fiddling with the mask every 10 seconds or so. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It grates me to see Joe blogs in face masks when at work I have to ration them out to people who actually do need them
Plus the ones who wear them in public, and wear gloves just throw them on the floor when getting in cars. Car parks are littered with them."
It's really so pointless if people are going to just throw them on the ground.
I think if the public are going to use coverings, they should be reusable ones, use once to go the shops, get in your car (if you drive), take them off into a zip lock back, sanitise, and then wash them when you get home, so they ready for the next use. Save the disposable ppe for for Front line workers who actually need them and are at constant risk.... The government should just ban the sale of disposable ppe to the general public |
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By *sm265Woman
over a year ago
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Even with masks people would need to stick to the social distancing rules, because homemade or cheap ebay masks don't actually provide the wearer with any level of protection. The problem is that masks will give some people a false sense of security & they won't adhere to social distancing rules and thus the mask will be pretty much useless.
It's like the people wearing gloves who don't realise that they can still spread the virus on the gloves.
PPE is only effective if people know how to use it correctly, and the majority of people don't. |
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"It grates me to see Joe blogs in face masks when at work I have to ration them out to people who actually do need them "
Perhaps you should be thankful that it's one less patient you might have to treat otherwise
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"It grates me to see Joe blogs in face masks when at work I have to ration them out to people who actually do need them
Plus the ones who wear them in public, and wear gloves just throw them on the floor when getting in cars. Car parks are littered with them.
It's really so pointless if people are going to just throw them on the ground.
I think if the public are going to use coverings, they should be reusable ones, use once to go the shops, get in your car (if you drive), take them off into a zip lock back, sanitise, and then wash them when you get home, so they ready for the next use. Save the disposable ppe for for Front line workers who actually need them and are at constant risk.... The government should just ban the sale of disposable ppe to the general public "
Most disposable ppe people have is rubbish fake shit from eBay they would be 10x safer with a t towel |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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After 31000 deaths finally Government has told the public to wear face coverings as part of its new coronavirus lockdown strategy. Why it took so long to decide that face coverings helps to stop the spread of this virus. |
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By *emptd2Man
over a year ago
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"After 31000 deaths finally Government has told the public to wear face coverings as part of its new coronavirus lockdown strategy. Why it took so long to decide that face coverings helps to stop the spread of this virus. "
Notice how they said face coverings and not masks? It's very deliberate wording.
We already have the ongoing well publicised issue with PPE. Can you imagine the stock levels if the general public started hoarding them like they did with toilet paper? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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You couldn’t get toilet paper for a month so can you imagine trying to buy decent face masks. Not a chance demand would far out strip supply. Bet there are already people stock piling them as we speak. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Them face masks ain't much good if doctors in hospital are catching it eh !! "
Doctors and nurses are catching it because they have to work in unsafe conditions due to lack of ppe, face masks etc. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Them face masks ain't much good if doctors in hospital are catching it eh !!
Doctors and nurses are catching it because they have to work in unsafe conditions due to lack of ppe, face masks etc. "
A face mask stops you spreading a virus not catching one. So if you come in contact the person infected must wear the mask.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Finally wearing face coverings will be compulsory on public transport in England from 15 June."
Do you have shares in a face mask manufacturer?
Joking aside, it's the right move. I don't think it should be compulsory in open spaces but I'm staggered London's figures are comparatively low compared to the rest of the country considering the amount of people that use the buses and tube. |
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