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I’m sure it’s not just us, but does anybody else think we are being given mixed messages?.
In one breath we’re told to stay indoors, & only go out unless it’s absolutely necessary, or you’re a key worker, & in the other breath we’re told to go out to work if we can’t work from home, even if we’re not in a key worker role.
Obviously it’s in the governments interest for as many to go to work as possible, so they don’t have to pay them, but they also want to restrict people going out.
BJ said both today so really unsure what we should do  |
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Its companies pressuring government to back track
It's always been ambiguous statements and then each councils interpretation and then each person's interpretation
Its basically Chinese whispers from the old days |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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My whole family still working absolutely nothing changed, out every day mixing with people. My friends working......it's a surreal world watching the news and reports. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I’m fucked right off that all my sites have shut on ‘moral’ grounds and that other house builders are still working.
Could it be that the ‘moral’ stance has something to do with no cunt buying houses as they’re all locked up at home or working their tits off or unfortunately poorly.
It’s obviously just a coincidence that freelance workers like myself make up around 80% of the main contractors workforce so they don’t shell out any more money for us and the other 20% they actually employ the government will pay.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"My whole family still working absolutely nothing changed, out every day mixing with people. My friends working......it's a surreal world watching the news and reports."
Omg seriously  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Yes...I'm the only one staying home. My Mrs in food retail, my ex Mrs and eldest son in patient transport, my youngest son in food distribution, and my friends in the NHS told from tomorrow on 12hr shifts seven days a week. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think it will get stricter due to so many flouncing the rules.
If you can work from home do so.
NHS don't have a choice.
Key workers don't have a choice. |
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"I think it will get stricter due to so many flouncing the rules.
If you can work from home do so.
NHS don't have a choice.
Key workers don't have a choice. "
Yes, I feel stricter is coming. This isn't a holiday FFS. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Yes...I'm the only one staying home. My Mrs in food retail, my ex Mrs and eldest son in patient transport, my youngest son in food distribution, and my friends in the NHS told from tomorrow on 12hr shifts seven days a week."
You will find this is wrong.
The NHS can not make staff work more than contracted hours.
They can ask staff to work on extra and most will due to not wanting to allow colleagues to suffer but all staff are all entitled to time off and at the moment they are pushing that staff don't burn out as it will get worse in weeks to come |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"My whole family still working absolutely nothing changed, out every day mixing with people. My friends working......it's a surreal world watching the news and reports."
Why? |
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over a year ago
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"I think it will get stricter due to so many flouncing the rules.
If you can work from home do so.
NHS don't have a choice.
Key workers don't have a choice.
Yes, I feel stricter is coming. This isn't a holiday FFS."
It will definitely be coming we have been issued letters asking for them to allow us to move around freely when the army and police are deployed. |
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"Its companies pressuring government to back track
It's always been ambiguous statements and then each councils interpretation and then each person's interpretation
Its basically Chinese whispers from the old days "
Its really not.
Gmnt makes the decisions..brickies and off licences are somehow key worker's.
That matt Hancock yesterday failed to answer 1 question
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"I think it will get stricter due to so many flouncing the rules.
If you can work from home do so.
NHS don't have a choice.
Key workers don't have a choice. "
Fail to see how brickies are key workers. |
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"I think it will get stricter due to so many flouncing the rules.
If you can work from home do so.
NHS don't have a choice.
Key workers don't have a choice.
Yes, I feel stricter is coming. This isn't a holiday FFS.
It will definitely be coming we have been issued letters asking for them to allow us to move around freely when the army and police are deployed. "
Yes I've been hearing about letters.
Those dicking about are costing lives and our freedom. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm not confused.
I'm confused about the people that are determined to make this situation last even longer by going against the advice given.
I'm amongst the many people that have to go to work - and quite honestly Im offended by everyone going on about how bored they are - while sat at home getting paid.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm not confused.
I'm confused about the people that are determined to make this situation last even longer by going against the advice given.
I'm amongst the many people that have to go to work - and quite honestly Im offended by everyone going on about how bored they are - while sat at home getting paid.
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Well said.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Yes...I'm the only one staying home. My Mrs in food retail, my ex Mrs and eldest son in patient transport, my youngest son in food distribution, and my friends in the NHS told from tomorrow on 12hr shifts seven days a week.
You will find this is wrong.
Yes but I think they are all encouraged to all 'pull together' with the resources they have and being the kind of people they are they do. Respect to all the NHS people for sure.
The NHS can not make staff work more than contracted hours.
They can ask staff to work on extra and most will due to not wanting to allow colleagues to suffer but all staff are all entitled to time off and at the moment they are pushing that staff don't burn out as it will get worse in weeks to come"
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By *iger4uWoman
over a year ago
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"I'm not confused.
I'm confused about the people that are determined to make this situation last even longer by going against the advice given.
I'm amongst the many people that have to go to work - and quite honestly Im offended by everyone going on about how bored they are - while sat at home getting paid.
Well said. "
Me too.. And my colleagues in assorted gov depts agree. We have been called scum not so long ago... |
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By *SAchickWoman
over a year ago
Hillside desolate |
"I'm not confused.
I'm confused about the people that are determined to make this situation last even longer by going against the advice given.
I'm amongst the many people that have to go to work - and quite honestly Im offended by everyone going on about how bored they are - while sat at home getting paid.
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Oh yes, I'm also getting sick of people complaining about lockdown, asking how "everyone's" coping with the hell that is being at home, how they're managing the boredom of it all, when I'm having to go to work as normal. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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We've all been hung out to dry. Too many grey areas and unless your employer is one of the very few who takes it upon themselves to put the safety of their staff and by proxy their families before profit then the responsibility is on the individual adding to the stress of an already very stressful time. Not counting the obvious key workers of which i am one. I know people being pressured to go to work and being told it's business as normal, if they feel they have to isolate then to do so but it'll be statutory sick pay only. Shame on the politicians and shame on those employers.  |
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By *eeBee67Man
over a year ago
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What mixed messages?
Stay home (no un necessary journeys or social contact)...unless.
1. Key worker NHS, food supply (or list of retail allowed to stay open.
2. Go out once for exercise (not driving 3 hours to the seaside for a gentle stroll by the sea).
3. To buy essential supplies, such as food and medicine (not a new x box or iPad or new post lockdown party outfit).
4. To travel to and from work where it is not possible to do it at home.
I do not understand where the confusion comes from.
If you can stay at home with your family dont get close to others. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I am a healthcare key worker,while the rest of my family are on lockdown,the responsibility of that is immense...frontline and so worried about taking this home,3 generatiins in my household  "
Ooofft. Hope you all stay safe, and respect to every frontliner. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What mixed messages?
Stay home (no un necessary journeys or social contact)...unless.
1. Key worker NHS, food supply (or list of retail allowed to stay open.
2. Go out once for exercise (not driving 3 hours to the seaside for a gentle stroll by the sea).
3. To buy essential supplies, such as food and medicine (not a new x box or iPad or new post lockdown party outfit).
4. To travel to and from work where it is not possible to do it at home.
I do not understand where the confusion comes from.
If you can stay at home with your family dont get close to others."
There really are some thick people about. This pandemic has really shown that. Bugger all to be confused about at all. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm not confused.
I'm confused about the people that are determined to make this situation last even longer by going against the advice given.
I'm amongst the many people that have to go to work - and quite honestly Im offended by everyone going on about how bored they are - while sat at home getting paid.
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Well, I'm certainly not bored This is probably the best time I've had for over 10 years, and the first time I've stayed in my home for more than a few weeks in those 10 years. I'm not getting paid, but I have enough. |
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By *eeBee67Man
over a year ago
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"What mixed messages?
Stay home (no un necessary journeys or social contact)...unless.
1. Key worker NHS, food supply (or list of retail allowed to stay open.
2. Go out once for exercise (not driving 3 hours to the seaside for a gentle stroll by the sea).
3. To buy essential supplies, such as food and medicine (not a new x box or iPad or new post lockdown party outfit).
4. To travel to and from work where it is not possible to do it at home.
I do not understand where the confusion comes from.
If you can stay at home with your family dont get close to others.
There really are some thick people about. This pandemic has really shown that. Bugger all to be confused about at all."
thank god theres more than me that can understand simple statements  |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
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"What mixed messages?
Stay home (no un necessary journeys or social contact)...unless.
1. Key worker NHS, food supply (or list of retail allowed to stay open.
2. Go out once for exercise (not driving 3 hours to the seaside for a gentle stroll by the sea).
3. To buy essential supplies, such as food and medicine (not a new x box or iPad or new post lockdown party outfit).
4. To travel to and from work where it is not possible to do it at home.
I do not understand where the confusion comes from.
If you can stay at home with your family dont get close to others.
There really are some thick people about. This pandemic has really shown that. Bugger all to be confused about at all."
Most, if not all of that, is just basic common sense.
Problem is, many prefer to listen to the pyschobabble on social media, rather than actually read or listen to what the experts are saying. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Yes,other people are making it confusing! I work in a Pharmacy so i know i have to go to work but lockdown should mean lockdown if we are going to get control of this pandemic.Stay well everyone. X |
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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago
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"What mixed messages?
Stay home (no un necessary journeys or social contact)...unless.
1. Key worker NHS, food supply (or list of retail allowed to stay open.
2. Go out once for exercise (not driving 3 hours to the seaside for a gentle stroll by the sea).
3. To buy essential supplies, such as food and medicine (not a new x box or iPad or new post lockdown party outfit).
4. To travel to and from work where it is not possible to do it at home.
I do not understand where the confusion comes from.
If you can stay at home with your family dont get close to others.
There really are some thick people about. This pandemic has really shown that. Bugger all to be confused about at all."
so true don't get the "confusion" part it's pretty simple really. Stayat home unless you absolutely need to go out. I'm a carer so I have to work. I'm also asthmatic all these people whining about being home and bored annoy the hell out of me. I'd love to be at home and not have to be going to work and worried about catching this virus. So basically stay at home unless you are a key worker only go out if absolutely necessary and this thing will pass so much faster. And if you're bored find something to bloody do at home or suck it up. |
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"What mixed messages?
Stay home (no un necessary journeys or social contact)...unless.
1. Key worker NHS, food supply (or list of retail allowed to stay open.
2. Go out once for exercise (not driving 3 hours to the seaside for a gentle stroll by the sea).
3. To buy essential supplies, such as food and medicine (not a new x box or iPad or new post lockdown party outfit).
4. To travel to and from work where it is not possible to do it at home.
I do not understand where the confusion comes from.
If you can stay at home with your family dont get close to others.
There really are some thick people about. This pandemic has really shown that. Bugger all to be confused about at all. so true don't get the "confusion" part it's pretty simple really. Stayat home unless you absolutely need to go out. I'm a carer so I have to work. I'm also asthmatic all these people whining about being home and bored annoy the hell out of me. I'd love to be at home and not have to be going to work and worried about catching this virus. So basically stay at home unless you are a key worker only go out if absolutely necessary and this thing will pass so much faster. And if you're bored find something to bloody do at home or suck it up. "
Has your company not advised you to stay at home due to your asthma?
It puts you in the higher risk category. |
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By *1bttmMan
over a year ago
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I don't think its confusing. Work from home if u can. If u can't carry on and do what u ave to do working within the other guidelines to minimise risks. Keep yr distance as much as possible n keep washing yr hands. |
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"What mixed messages?
Stay home (no un necessary journeys or social contact)...unless.
1. Key worker NHS, food supply (or list of retail allowed to stay open.
2. Go out once for exercise (not driving 3 hours to the seaside for a gentle stroll by the sea).
3. To buy essential supplies, such as food and medicine (not a new x box or iPad or new post lockdown party outfit).
4. To travel to and from work where it is not possible to do it at home.
I do not understand where the confusion comes from.
If you can stay at home with your family dont get close to others.
There really are some thick people about. This pandemic has really shown that. Bugger all to be confused about at all."
Ok, so what about 1 and 4?
1 - Stay at home unless you are a key worker, only go out if absolutely necessary
4 - but you can go to work if you cant work from home.
So, as a non key worker that cannot work from home, can I go to work?
My job could be classed as absolutely necessary by the person wanting it done, they want a bathroom tiling so they can use their bathroom and move back into their house. Others will say that tiling is far from necessary. The police are stopping people on their way to work so what would their interpretation of the situation be?
What if I told you that my customer is living with their parents until they have bathroom facilities. This means that they have wash facilities they can use at their parents home so does that mean the bathroom at their own home isn't essential?
How about if I told you their parents where in the vulnerable category, should it then be essential to get my customer in their own home and out of their parents?
This is my current dilemma |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Me and my wife doing all we can staying in only walking dog once a day keeping more than two meters away from any one outside. However daughter works for Slimming World def not essential in anyway but her boss basically told her come to work or you get no pay. Too many big businesses bullying staff government needs to put its foot down non essential companies need to close |
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"Try living in Australia at the moment. Our messages and guidelines are all over the shop x stay safe friends! 
Don't get me started on Scotty from Marketing..."
Haha! Fair enough... Good luck to you all over there! X |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
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"Me and my wife doing all we can staying in only walking dog once a day keeping more than two meters away from any one outside. However daughter works for Slimming World def not essential in anyway but her boss basically told her come to work or you get no pay. Too many big businesses bullying staff government needs to put its foot down non essential companies need to close "
All employers have a duty of care to their employees. If they aren't showing that to your daughter, then she should refuse to work.
The Goverment has issued guidelines to the workplace. These should be adhered to. |
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"Me and my wife doing all we can staying in only walking dog once a day keeping more than two meters away from any one outside. However daughter works for Slimming World def not essential in anyway but her boss basically told her come to work or you get no pay. Too many big businesses bullying staff government needs to put its foot down non essential companies need to close
All employers have a duty of care to their employees. If they aren't showing that to your daughter, then she should refuse to work.
The Goverment has issued guidelines to the workplace. These should be adhered to. "
She’s not been in job very long it’s very difficult to put your point across to any bosses with these attitudes |
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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago
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"What mixed messages?
Stay home (no un necessary journeys or social contact)...unless.
1. Key worker NHS, food supply (or list of retail allowed to stay open.
2. Go out once for exercise (not driving 3 hours to the seaside for a gentle stroll by the sea).
3. To buy essential supplies, such as food and medicine (not a new x box or iPad or new post lockdown party outfit).
4. To travel to and from work where it is not possible to do it at home.
I do not understand where the confusion comes from.
If you can stay at home with your family dont get close to others.
There really are some thick people about. This pandemic has really shown that. Bugger all to be confused about at all. so true don't get the "confusion" part it's pretty simple really. Stayat home unless you absolutely need to go out. I'm a carer so I have to work. I'm also asthmatic all these people whining about being home and bored annoy the hell out of me. I'd love to be at home and not have to be going to work and worried about catching this virus. So basically stay at home unless you are a key worker only go out if absolutely necessary and this thing will pass so much faster. And if you're bored find something to bloody do at home or suck it up.
Has your company not advised you to stay at home due to your asthma?
It puts you in the higher risk category. "
No not unless I get one of the letters from the doctors but cancer patients people who have had organ transplants etc are above asthmatics so I doubt I will get the letter. So I have to keep coming in. We are presently clear of the virus where I work and doing our best to safe guard. If it does come in things may change but at the moment some staff have already left so we are short staffed and these people who live here need care so I will be in here looking after them. I'll just continue to do all I can to prevent myself getting this which includes staying at home on my days off. |
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"Me and my wife doing all we can staying in only walking dog once a day keeping more than two meters away from any one outside. However daughter works for Slimming World def not essential in anyway but her boss basically told her come to work or you get no pay. Too many big businesses bullying staff government needs to put its foot down non essential companies need to close
All employers have a duty of care to their employees. If they aren't showing that to your daughter, then she should refuse to work.
The Goverment has issued guidelines to the workplace. These should be adhered to.
She’s not been in job very long it’s very difficult to put your point across to any bosses with these attitudes "
Report to Public Health England. This bullying of employees is unacceptable. Slimming World are supposed to be about health and caring ffs
Fortunately I'm able to work from home but feel for those who can't and are worried about paying bills etc |
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"Me and my wife doing all we can staying in only walking dog once a day keeping more than two meters away from any one outside. However daughter works for Slimming World def not essential in anyway but her boss basically told her come to work or you get no pay. Too many big businesses bullying staff government needs to put its foot down non essential companies need to close "
My point exactly |
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I'm self employed and working at a very well known company among operators, some of them continuously coughing and sneezing.
Nobody cares about social distance.
Children are playing on the car park where I live.
I saw a woman distributing leaflets with her two kids, she was licking her finger to separate leaflets before pushing through letter boxes.
Life is going on in Cheltenham ) |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"My daughter in law works for sky store.. she has been told to still come in... and they are still working with no social distancing
She should report them, anonymously, to public health."
Or the local press. They love stories like this. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I really don't understand what is so confusing to people.
Let's put it another way
If we were told that there was a murderer on the loose, but nobody knew what they looked like, that they could be absolutely anywhere and was killing indiscriminately, would people still want to risk going out?
And yet that is EXACTLY the situation we are in.
If a foreign power dropped a nuclear bomb on your town and you were told that you'd be OK provided you stayed indoors, I wonder if there would still be people wondering if it applied to them.
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"I really don't understand what is so confusing to people.
Let's put it another way
If we were told that there was a murderer on the loose, but nobody knew what they looked like, that they could be absolutely anywhere and was killing indiscriminately, would people still want to risk going out?
And yet that is EXACTLY the situation we are in.
If a foreign power dropped a nuclear bomb on your town and you were told that you'd be OK provided you stayed indoors, I wonder if there would still be people wondering if it applied to them.
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"I'm self employed and working at a very well known company among operators, some of them continuously coughing and sneezing.
Nobody cares about social distance.
Children are playing on the car park where I live.
First positive case confirmed at the company today.
One operator has taken to hospital after showing symptoms, and he is positive.
I'm not surprised...as people ignored even simple rules.
I saw a woman distributing leaflets with her two kids, she was licking her finger to separate leaflets before pushing through letter boxes.
Life is going on in Cheltenham ) "
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"I’m sure it’s not just us, but does anybody else think we are being given mixed messages?.
In one breath we’re told to stay indoors, & only go out unless it’s absolutely necessary, or you’re a key worker, & in the other breath we’re told to go out to work if we can’t work from home, even if we’re not in a key worker role.
Obviously it’s in the governments interest for as many to go to work as possible, so they don’t have to pay them, but they also want to restrict people going out.
BJ said both today so really unsure what we should do "
If your business isnt key then you shouldn't be asked to work. I work in the construction industry and we have closed all residential work and only continue working at st pancras station ensuring key maintenance works are carried out. My role is office based so I can work from home and I do. If you have not been given key worker status and cant work from home you should not be asked to work. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What mixed messages?
Stay home (no un necessary journeys or social contact)...unless.
1. Key worker NHS, food supply (or list of retail allowed to stay open.
2. Go out once for exercise (not driving 3 hours to the seaside for a gentle stroll by the sea).
3. To buy essential supplies, such as food and medicine (not a new x box or iPad or new post lockdown party outfit).
4. To travel to and from work where it is not possible to do it at home.
I do not understand where the confusion comes from.
If you can stay at home with your family dont get close to others."
Exactly this. There is no confusion. There is a clear published list of "key work".
No confusion ...just confused people...possibly lacking the intelligence to understand...or likely deliberately causing mischief. |
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By *uckfunCouple
over a year ago
North Coast |
Both of us are NHS, she A&E, me theatres,
Unless you need to go out, sneaking out to meet friends, shopping as a family, going round a friends for drinks or dinner isn’t a need
Then STAY AT HOME.
Do people really need the government to order them not to go out? Being advised not to go out because there’s a potentially deadly virus being passed around should make all people (unless they really need to go out) STAY AT HOME. |
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By *uckfunCouple
over a year ago
North Coast |
"Part of the reason why the situation is so bad in Italy is because of regional politicians and businesses fighting back against medical advice. "
That and it was ski season in Northern Italy and thousands of people were entering the country by air, rail and road. |
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"Both of us are NHS, she A&E, me theatres,
Unless you need to go out, sneaking out to meet friends, shopping as a family, going round a friends for drinks or dinner isn’t a need
Then STAY AT HOME.
Do people really need the government to order them not to go out? Being advised not to go out because there’s a potentially deadly virus being passed around should make all people (unless they really need to go out) STAY AT HOME. "
Too right.
I just saw a group of 6 walking a dog.
It makes my blood boil and so angry.
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By *eah BabyCouple
over a year ago
Cheshire, Windermere ,Cumbria |
What I find confusing is they say if someone in your family shows symptoms you should all isolate for 14 days other than the one with symptoms which is 7 days but if a work colleague shows symptoms they go home for a week but all their work colleagues stay in work, why is that? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Part of the reason why the situation is so bad in Italy is because of regional politicians and businesses fighting back against medical advice. "
Its also because they kiss the
shit outa esch other on meeting snd greeting |
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I work for a company that are classing me as a 'key worker' (I'm not) I am unable to work from home. I work with 100's of others many of whom are 'vulnerable' and have been told 'it's your choice' to come into work. If we don't work we don't get paid. We are unable to adhere to social distance rules and there are people displaying the symptoms amongst us |
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"I work for a company that are classing me as a 'key worker' (I'm not) I am unable to work from home. I work with 100's of others many of whom are 'vulnerable' and have been told 'it's your choice' to come into work. If we don't work we don't get paid. We are unable to adhere to social distance rules and there are people displaying the symptoms amongst us "
I feel for you there are thousands like you but big business always gets it's way, fuck the worker's. |
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"I’m sure it’s not just us, but does anybody else think we are being given mixed messages?.
In one breath we’re told to stay indoors, & only go out unless it’s absolutely necessary, or you’re a key worker, & in the other breath we’re told to go out to work if we can’t work from home, even if we’re not in a key worker role.
Obviously it’s in the governments interest for as many to go to work as possible, so they don’t have to pay them, but they also want to restrict people going out.
BJ said both today so really unsure what we should do "
It's not really that difficult.
Do you need the government to tell you what to do? |
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We have not been told that we are key workers as yet however we have a daughter with an open wound on her lower back that's awaiting an operation that's been cancelled
We have entered isolation for our families health
Having to use holidays and hopefully get sick pay but not guaranteed
Think it's a disgrace |
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"We have not been told that we are key workers as yet however we have a daughter with an open wound on her lower back that's awaiting an operation that's been cancelled
We have entered isolation for our families health
Having to use holidays and hopefully get sick pay but not guaranteed
Think it's a disgrace"
It is a disgrace. I know a company where people are dropping like flies with it but all the other workers are to carry on working until it’s their turn to drop after being in contact with them which is just increasing the risk to others but lining the pockets of those companies that are about the money and not staff welfare. |
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"We have not been told that we are key workers as yet however we have a daughter with an open wound on her lower back that's awaiting an operation that's been cancelled
We have entered isolation for our families health
Having to use holidays and hopefully get sick pay but not guaranteed
Think it's a disgrace"
Thats disgusting
Cant you report them. |
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Common sense really. If your company has closed your not going. You can’t work at home and your company needs you, your going to work. Shopping is when you need food you need food. . Other wise stay at home . |
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The fact is most people will have had it in some form by Xmas..slowing the infection rate is the aim...2008 will be a walk in the park economic wise..youngster's will be paying for years and years for this nightmare...China's treatment and culture regarding animals is disgusting... not a nation that you can warm to. |
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