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"Mid to late Nov are the optimal time for flu and Covid shots" I mostly agree, depending on what's happening with infection levels - as immunity wanes and having vaccination very early may mean that catching an infection on a late winter peak, may become more possible. Covid infections are up, based on the previous week - this may continue to climb and a winter peak may be somewhere off in the future. | |||
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"Mid to late Nov are the optimal time for flu and Covid shots I mostly agree, depending on what's happening with infection levels - as immunity wanes and having vaccination very early may mean that catching an infection on a late winter peak, may become more possible. Covid infections are up, based on the previous week - this may continue to climb and a winter peak may be somewhere off in the future. " How do "they" know covid infections are up? Up on what? Presumably "infections" may also go down as well as up? | |||
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"Mid to late Nov are the optimal time for flu and Covid shots I mostly agree, depending on what's happening with infection levels - as immunity wanes and having vaccination very early may mean that catching an infection on a late winter peak, may become more possible. Covid infections are up, based on the previous week - this may continue to climb and a winter peak may be somewhere off in the future. How do "they" know covid infections are up? Up on what? Presumably "infections" may also go down as well as up? " im guessing people have got colds and bugs its the time of year if nobody knew so doing covid tests and suprise suprise numbers are now up 😂best stock up on loo roll | |||
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"Mid to late Nov are the optimal time for flu and Covid shots I mostly agree, depending on what's happening with infection levels - as immunity wanes and having vaccination very early may mean that catching an infection on a late winter peak, may become more possible. Covid infections are up, based on the previous week - this may continue to climb and a winter peak may be somewhere off in the future. How do "they" know covid infections are up? Up on what? Presumably "infections" may also go down as well as up? im guessing people have got colds and bugs its the time of year if nobody knew so doing covid tests and suprise suprise numbers are now up 😂best stock up on loo roll " There is a lot of people that a covid is still a risk to them.... Hospital admissions are rising slightly again..and it will get a little worse. Only those vulnerable to covid get offered the boosters now. I make sure I have my flu and covid boosters 4 weeks apart Cali | |||
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"Mid to late Nov are the optimal time for flu and Covid shots I mostly agree, depending on what's happening with infection levels - as immunity wanes and having vaccination very early may mean that catching an infection on a late winter peak, may become more possible. Covid infections are up, based on the previous week - this may continue to climb and a winter peak may be somewhere off in the future. How do "they" know covid infections are up? Up on what? Presumably "infections" may also go down as well as up? " Monitoring ONS etc You've confirmed what I outlined. | |||
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"Mid to late Nov are the optimal time for flu and Covid shots I mostly agree, depending on what's happening with infection levels - as immunity wanes and having vaccination very early may mean that catching an infection on a late winter peak, may become more possible. Covid infections are up, based on the previous week - this may continue to climb and a winter peak may be somewhere off in the future. How do "they" know covid infections are up? Up on what? Presumably "infections" may also go down as well as up? im guessing people have got colds and bugs its the time of year if nobody knew so doing covid tests and suprise suprise numbers are now up 😂best stock up on loo roll There is a lot of people that a covid is still a risk to them.... Hospital admissions are rising slightly again..and it will get a little worse. Only those vulnerable to covid get offered the boosters now. I make sure I have my flu and covid boosters 4 weeks apart Cali" Is there any reason why only those vulnerable to covid get boosters now? Whereas 2 years ago everybody was advised to get a booster every 6 months? Do you know why the advise and availability has changed? | |||
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"Mid to late Nov are the optimal time for flu and Covid shots I mostly agree, depending on what's happening with infection levels - as immunity wanes and having vaccination very early may mean that catching an infection on a late winter peak, may become more possible. Covid infections are up, based on the previous week - this may continue to climb and a winter peak may be somewhere off in the future. How do "they" know covid infections are up? Up on what? Presumably "infections" may also go down as well as up? Monitoring ONS etc You've confirmed what I outlined. " Not sure I confirmed anything. I just asked 3 questions. | |||
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"Mid to late Nov are the optimal time for flu and Covid shots I mostly agree, depending on what's happening with infection levels - as immunity wanes and having vaccination very early may mean that catching an infection on a late winter peak, may become more possible. Covid infections are up, based on the previous week - this may continue to climb and a winter peak may be somewhere off in the future. How do "they" know covid infections are up? Up on what? Presumably "infections" may also go down as well as up? im guessing people have got colds and bugs its the time of year if nobody knew so doing covid tests and suprise suprise numbers are now up 😂best stock up on loo roll There is a lot of people that a covid is still a risk to them.... Hospital admissions are rising slightly again..and it will get a little worse. Only those vulnerable to covid get offered the boosters now. I make sure I have my flu and covid boosters 4 weeks apart Cali Is there any reason why only those vulnerable to covid get boosters now? Whereas 2 years ago everybody was advised to get a booster every 6 months? Do you know why the advise and availability has changed? " probably because now it is less risky for those not counted as vulnerable... but most likely money related. Personally I'm glad everyone in my house can get it due to my daughters status. | |||
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"Cali, why are you having your covid and flu boosters 4 weeks apart? Just asking for a friend, due mine next week, I just had the pneumonia one that was bad enough " because when I had them together it floored me for 3 days.. xx | |||
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"Cali, why are you having your covid and flu boosters 4 weeks apart? Just asking for a friend, due mine next week, I just had the pneumonia one that was bad enough because when I had them together it floored me for 3 days.. xx" I
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"Mid to late Nov are the optimal time for flu and Covid shots I mostly agree, depending on what's happening with infection levels - as immunity wanes and having vaccination very early may mean that catching an infection on a late winter peak, may become more possible. Covid infections are up, based on the previous week - this may continue to climb and a winter peak may be somewhere off in the future. How do "they" know covid infections are up? Up on what? Presumably "infections" may also go down as well as up? im guessing people have got colds and bugs its the time of year if nobody knew so doing covid tests and suprise suprise numbers are now up 😂best stock up on loo roll There is a lot of people that a covid is still a risk to them.... Hospital admissions are rising slightly again..and it will get a little worse. Only those vulnerable to covid get offered the boosters now. I make sure I have my flu and covid boosters 4 weeks apart Cali" I'm not vulnerable to Covid. I have not had any Covid vacinnes, but I am still been offered a booster, so it's not just those who are vulnerable who are being offered them. | |||
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"Mid to late Nov are the optimal time for flu and Covid shots I mostly agree, depending on what's happening with infection levels - as immunity wanes and having vaccination very early may mean that catching an infection on a late winter peak, may become more possible. Covid infections are up, based on the previous week - this may continue to climb and a winter peak may be somewhere off in the future. How do "they" know covid infections are up? Up on what? Presumably "infections" may also go down as well as up? im guessing people have got colds and bugs its the time of year if nobody knew so doing covid tests and suprise suprise numbers are now up 😂best stock up on loo roll There is a lot of people that a covid is still a risk to them.... Hospital admissions are rising slightly again..and it will get a little worse. Only those vulnerable to covid get offered the boosters now. I make sure I have my flu and covid boosters 4 weeks apart Cali I'm not vulnerable to Covid. I have not had any Covid vacinnes, but I am still been offered a booster, so it's not just those who are vulnerable who are being offered them." they are only offering it to those that there medical records view them as vulnerable... | |||
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"How do "they" know covid infections are up? Up on what? Presumably "infections" may also go down as well as up? " Healthcare professionals are people too. Also numbers of folk presenting at GP/Hospital. I’ve already had the current strain. I’ve been invited for the combo jab. Mixed feelings but with frail elderly and prem babies in my family/social group, I’ll be getting jabbed. | |||
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"How do "they" know covid infections are up? Up on what? Presumably "infections" may also go down as well as up? Healthcare professionals are people too. Also numbers of folk presenting at GP/Hospital. I’ve already had the current strain. I’ve been invited for the combo jab. Mixed feelings but with frail elderly and prem babies in my family/social group, I’ll be getting jabbed. " I don't really understand what you've written sorry. My point however that assuming infections are going to go up is as flawed as assuming anything else. | |||
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"Boosters for Covid and flu can now be booked for those eligible, via the NHS site. They are also available privately, via other providers, such as pharmacists. "Did you mean to type eligible and not gullable? 
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"Having mine today, flu and booster, hopefully I will have a better reaction this time as the previous too I felt terrible for a few days." I've just been and had mine. Was going to have them separately but have had them together. Shall see how it goes. My daughter is booked in for a few weeks time x | |||
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"Whilst eating some food got stuck in my throat and I almost died.I did my own research and discovered that I am not alone. Thousands of people suffer this every year while eating, and hundreds of those people die. Thats why I don't feed my kids. Its dangerous. Now plenty of people will point out that food supposedly "prevents starvation," and that might be true, but Its not fair to completely ignore all the dangers food poses, like this, allergies, gingivitis, and garlic breath. I'm just saying, do your own research and decide what you think is best for your kids. If you choose to give your kids potentially deadly food, thats your problem, but as a parent, I don't think the government has any right to tell me that I need to feed my kids. "Creative analogy but a little refinement but make it more similar. The analogy being perhaps condiments or the wine that goes along side the food optionally rather than all foods. But still very creative. | |||
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"Boosters for Covid and flu can now be booked for those eligible, via the NHS site. They are also available privately, via other providers, such as pharmacists.
Did you mean to type eligible and not gullable?
Mr F. "I'm not eligible and I won't be getting a booster However, I don't feel the need to take the pish out of those that do. Seems like it might give some people an orgasm though. | |||
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"Boosters for Covid and flu can now be booked for those eligible, via the NHS site. They are also available privately, via other providers, such as pharmacists.
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"Yes I'm popping into a walk in for our covid ones... myself and my daughter have had our invites. Booked our flu ones for a few weeks time x" Oh dear  | |||
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"Mid to late Nov are the optimal time for flu and Covid shots I mostly agree, depending on what's happening with infection levels - as immunity wanes and having vaccination very early may mean that catching an infection on a late winter peak, may become more possible. Covid infections are up, based on the previous week - this may continue to climb and a winter peak may be somewhere off in the future. How do "they" know covid infections are up? Up on what? Presumably "infections" may also go down as well as up? Monitoring ONS etc You've confirmed what I outlined. " So I had some time this morning to Google around and check the government's figures. And to be honest the official numbers are so low that any decreases or increases need to be carefully thought about the story they tell. 3 months ago the number of infections reported over a rolling 7 day period was about 500 infections. 2 months ago.. That number was just over 500 infections rolling average 1 month ago it was just over 200 and End of september the last data available was just below 400 infections. So yes based on 1 months data as summer turns to winter the low number of infections has indeed increased but it's important to understand how low these numbers are. For what it's worth the official infection numbers a year ago (1st Oct) was over 2300 ... So we now have 17% of the infections we had this time last year. Like with all "numbers" you can make them say different things. Source gov/ons. | |||
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"Mid to late Nov are the optimal time for flu and Covid shots I mostly agree, depending on what's happening with infection levels - as immunity wanes and having vaccination very early may mean that catching an infection on a late winter peak, may become more possible. Covid infections are up, based on the previous week - this may continue to climb and a winter peak may be somewhere off in the future. How do "they" know covid infections are up? Up on what? Presumably "infections" may also go down as well as up? Monitoring ONS etc You've confirmed what I outlined. So I had some time this morning to Google around and check the government's figures. And to be honest the official numbers are so low that any decreases or increases need to be carefully thought about the story they tell. 3 months ago the number of infections reported over a rolling 7 day period was about 500 infections. 2 months ago.. That number was just over 500 infections rolling average 1 month ago it was just over 200 and End of september the last data available was just below 400 infections. So yes based on 1 months data as summer turns to winter the low number of infections has indeed increased but it's important to understand how low these numbers are. For what it's worth the official infection numbers a year ago (1st Oct) was over 2300 ... So we now have 17% of the infections we had this time last year. Like with all "numbers" you can make them say different things. Source gov/ons. " Isn't this a problem with a lack of testing. The testing is done on a very small scale and only on specific sections of society. It's surely impossible to extrapolate such a tiny sample to the whole ofcthe UK populstion.IF we did have an outbreak of covid we probably wouldn't know til there was a sharp increase in hospitalisations with respiratory symptoms and by then it would be too late to do much. | |||
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"Mid to late Nov are the optimal time for flu and Covid shots I mostly agree, depending on what's happening with infection levels - as immunity wanes and having vaccination very early may mean that catching an infection on a late winter peak, may become more possible. Covid infections are up, based on the previous week - this may continue to climb and a winter peak may be somewhere off in the future. How do "they" know covid infections are up? Up on what? Presumably "infections" may also go down as well as up? Monitoring ONS etc You've confirmed what I outlined. So I had some time this morning to Google around and check the government's figures. And to be honest the official numbers are so low that any decreases or increases need to be carefully thought about the story they tell. 3 months ago the number of infections reported over a rolling 7 day period was about 500 infections. 2 months ago.. That number was just over 500 infections rolling average 1 month ago it was just over 200 and End of september the last data available was just below 400 infections. So yes based on 1 months data as summer turns to winter the low number of infections has indeed increased but it's important to understand how low these numbers are. For what it's worth the official infection numbers a year ago (1st Oct) was over 2300 ... So we now have 17% of the infections we had this time last year. Like with all "numbers" you can make them say different things. Source gov/ons. Isn't this a problem with a lack of testing. The testing is done on a very small scale and only on specific sections of society. It's surely impossible to extrapolate such a tiny sample to the whole ofcthe UK populstion.IF we did have an outbreak of covid we probably wouldn't know til there was a sharp increase in hospitalisations with respiratory symptoms and by then it would be too late to do much." Yes Probably. But that's the point I'm trying to make. There is no more reason for Saying the numbers are going up and we have a problem based on little empirical evidence, has no more worth than saying they are going down and we don't have a problem. It's just anecdote. Which is evidence of sorts but these threads have always had sciencey types lecturing the others about "wheres the evidence"? | |||
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"Mid to late Nov are the optimal time for flu and Covid shots I mostly agree, depending on what's happening with infection levels - as immunity wanes and having vaccination very early may mean that catching an infection on a late winter peak, may become more possible. Covid infections are up, based on the previous week - this may continue to climb and a winter peak may be somewhere off in the future. How do "they" know covid infections are up? Up on what? Presumably "infections" may also go down as well as up? Monitoring ONS etc You've confirmed what I outlined. So I had some time this morning to Google around and check the government's figures. And to be honest the official numbers are so low that any decreases or increases need to be carefully thought about the story they tell. 3 months ago the number of infections reported over a rolling 7 day period was about 500 infections. 2 months ago.. That number was just over 500 infections rolling average 1 month ago it was just over 200 and End of september the last data available was just below 400 infections. So yes based on 1 months data as summer turns to winter the low number of infections has indeed increased but it's important to understand how low these numbers are. For what it's worth the official infection numbers a year ago (1st Oct) was over 2300 ... So we now have 17% of the infections we had this time last year. Like with all "numbers" you can make them say different things. Source gov/ons. Isn't this a problem with a lack of testing. The testing is done on a very small scale and only on specific sections of society. It's surely impossible to extrapolate such a tiny sample to the whole ofcthe UK populstion.IF we did have an outbreak of covid we probably wouldn't know til there was a sharp increase in hospitalisations with respiratory symptoms and by then it would be too late to do much." And you can apply the same to the hospitalisation and deaths numbers.. Which are all on the same gov site. Interestingly since July last year the actual number of registered deaths per month has been considerably lower than the expected deaths. No clue what that says about covid... If anything at all. | |||
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"Yes I'm popping into a walk in for our covid ones... myself and my daughter have had our invites. Booked our flu ones for a few weeks time x Oh dear "why oh dear... ? | |||
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"Seriously? This is a section on a swinging site? This is exactly what’s wrong with the scene now." And yet here you are .... Commenting on it .... | |||
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"Boosters for Covid and flu can now be booked for those eligible, via the NHS site. They are also available privately, via other providers, such as pharmacists. "For over 65s or on average £45 | |||
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"Seriously? This is a section on a swinging site? This is exactly what’s wrong with the scene now." Why does this make it wrong... its a community...and we don't just discuss sex as swinging isn't just about sex. | |||
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"Seriously? This is a section on a swinging site? This is exactly what’s wrong with the scene now. Why does this make it wrong... its a community...and we don't just discuss sex as swinging isn't just about sex."
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"Seriously? This is a section on a swinging site? This is exactly what’s wrong with the scene now. Why does this make it wrong... its a community...and we don't just discuss sex as swinging isn't just about sex." Even though this is a swingers site quite a large proportion of people don't really understand swinging in our experience. | |||
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"I've got my shot this morning of both abd am v grateful but would rather have a shot of spunk instead. "Was that an option? Imagine spunk jabs on the nhs! For improved mental well being | |||
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"I will be getting both" Had my flu jab this morning. Will get my COVID booster in the next 3 or 4 weeks. | |||
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"I will be getting both Had my flu jab this morning. Will get my COVID booster in the next 3 or 4 weeks." I like the idea of splitting them apart, as you can identify which of them may have a reaction to it as well as miss the compound discomfort of 2, rather than just 1 at a time. | |||
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"How do "they" know covid infections are up? Up on what? Presumably "infections" may also go down as well as up? Healthcare professionals are people too. Also numbers of folk presenting at GP/Hospital. I’ve already had the current strain. I’ve been invited for the combo jab. Mixed feelings but with frail elderly and prem babies in my family/social group, I’ll be getting jabbed. " It is my understanding that the mRNA vaccines were never designed or tested to prevent transmission and have never been shown to do so. The media made that up and rammed it down our throats I would welcome anyone who can prove me wrong. | |||
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"Just back from having both done and the surgery were offering some quick check ups too so why not." Why not? Three doses are shown to fix original antigenic sin in covid. Basically the virus mutates but the immune system cannot, because of the vaccine. Your body, your choice. Choose informed choices. | |||
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"Just back from having both done and the surgery were offering some quick check ups too so why not. Why not? Three doses are shown to fix original antigenic sin in covid. Basically the virus mutates but the immune system cannot, because of the vaccine. Your body, your choice. Choose informed choices." I meant why not take the additional check ups but also agree re the vaccines...we all make our own choices. | |||
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"There's currently an extremely contagious variant doing the rounds. I have my COVID booster booked for this week, had my flu done today (ouch my arm) Waiting for the feeling like poo poo to start." I had both of mine done this week, and apart from a sore arm (normal, but it's usually the other wrist and not the upper arm ) and some aches for a day or so, now back to normal. | |||
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"How do "they" know covid infections are up? Up on what? Presumably "infections" may also go down as well as up? Healthcare professionals are people too. Also numbers of folk presenting at GP/Hospital. I’ve already had the current strain. I’ve been invited for the combo jab. Mixed feelings but with frail elderly and prem babies in my family/social group, I’ll be getting jabbed. It is my understanding that the mRNA vaccines were never designed or tested to prevent transmission and have never been shown to do so. The media made that up and rammed it down our throats I would welcome anyone who can prove me wrong. " Your understanding is a little out. Whilst the vaccines weren't touted as reducing infectivity, studies of thousands of people who had them showed declining rates of infections. Obviously such additional benefits amongst millions of people gave wonderful benefits to us all, including those who haven't had vaccination, as well as boosting the economy. | |||
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"The Covid jab isn’t a vaccine. It’s a virus suppressant and not a very good one. It was only ever intended for the old and vulnerable. Sadly too many idiots bought the government propaganda and way too many have died as a result of having it. That’s the reality. " That's the version according to YouTube. It's a vaccine. FACT It's currently only available for the vulnerable so you probably needn't worry yourself too much about it. | |||
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"The Covid jab isn’t a vaccine. It’s a virus suppressant and not a very good one. It was only ever intended for the old and vulnerable. Sadly too many idiots bought the government propaganda and way too many have died as a result of having it. That’s the reality. " What exactly is a vaccine suppressant? | |||
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"Read what I said. Virus suppressant " Can you explain what exactly a virus suppressant is? Also what a vaccine is because you are definitely confused on that one. Having a PhD I think I have educated myself plenty over the years. | |||
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"The Covid jab isn’t a vaccine. It’s a virus suppressant and not a very good one. It was only ever intended for the old and vulnerable. Sadly too many idiots bought the government propaganda and way too many have died as a result of having it. That’s the reality. " Starting with just the simplest first silly point, there isn't ONE 'Covid jab', there are multiple Covid vaccines - of course the MRNA vaccines are actual vaccines. Goodness knows where you've pulled your nonsense from  . It beggars belief that the places that churn out this swill pull in the gullible foot soldiers.
A vaccine will stimulate your body's immune systems to produce immunity against a potential virus or bacteria infection.
Perhaps returning to do some basic education might improve your understanding of these basic concepts. | |||
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"Imgine getting multiple jabs for something that you've most likely already caught already and survived expecially after some of the information thats circulating in regards to the side effects and virtually 0 proof of any positives of having them lol. Does it stop you catching it? Nope Does it stop you spreading it? Nope Does it stop you dying? Nope Have we seen multiple cases of side effects and increases in heart related deaths? Yep" Imagine believing rubbish you read in an antivax group/site/video. Developing COVID symptoms increase your risk of heart disease by 50% and increase your risk of death within 3 years by 20% | |||
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"Imgine getting multiple jabs for something that you've most likely already caught already and survived expecially after some of the information thats circulating in regards to the side effects and virtually 0 proof of any positives of having them lol. Does it stop you catching it? Nope Does it stop you spreading it? Nope Does it stop you dying? Nope Have we seen multiple cases of side effects and increases in heart related deaths? Yep Imagine believing rubbish you read in an antivax group/site/video. Developing COVID symptoms increase your risk of heart disease by 50% and increase your risk of death within 3 years by 20%" and so they then develop into unseen before rubberised clots too or is that all made up? | |||
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"Imgine getting multiple jabs for something that you've most likely already caught already and survived expecially after some of the information thats circulating in regards to the side effects and virtually 0 proof of any positives of having them lol. Does it stop you catching it? Nope Does it stop you spreading it? Nope Does it stop you dying? Nope Have we seen multiple cases of side effects and increases in heart related deaths? Yep Imagine believing rubbish you read in an antivax group/site/video. Developing COVID symptoms increase your risk of heart disease by 50% and increase your risk of death within 3 years by 20%and so they then develop into unseen before rubberised clots too or is that all made up? " It's made up | |||
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"Imgine getting multiple jabs for something that you've most likely already caught already and survived expecially after some of the information thats circulating in regards to the side effects and virtually 0 proof of any positives of having them lol. Does it stop you catching it? Nope Does it stop you spreading it? Nope Does it stop you dying? Nope Have we seen multiple cases of side effects and increases in heart related deaths? Yep Imagine believing rubbish you read in an antivax group/site/video. Developing COVID symptoms increase your risk of heart disease by 50% and increase your risk of death within 3 years by 20%and so they then develop into unseen before rubberised clots too or is that all made up? It's made up " thought it must be, dosens and dozens of videos from coroners must be all working in cahoots asking questions to what all these new calamari type clots are they've never seen before in the last 50 years of doing their jobs | |||
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"There is no point trying to reason it out. In fact there is no point discussing it. Folk watch videos and believe. Critical thinking or expert opinion don’t affect them. Remember “Dr” Gillian McKeith? It’s like that. Guff and pseudoscience and a lot of shouting. " Who decides which "Dr's" are guff and pseudo science and which ones aren't? Is it the ones who shout the loudest and have the biggest following? Or is it a different set of science? From different universities and different practical experiences where only one should believed and the others should for no reason other than we choose to believe someone else be labelled guff? I'm genuinely intrigued how people can be in one gang and with little critical reasoning just dismiss different "proof" out of hand. Now thats not to say that there aren't those in social media land who have their agendas and certainly do share misinformation but I'm interested how people, lay people mostly, can label youtube and news outlets as monkey fodder when they actually use the very same outlets to share their scathing attacks on others who disagree. | |||
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"There is no point trying to reason it out. In fact there is no point discussing it. Folk watch videos and believe. Critical thinking or expert opinion don’t affect them. Remember “Dr” Gillian McKeith? It’s like that. Guff and pseudoscience and a lot of shouting. Who decides which "Dr's" are guff and pseudo science and which ones aren't? Is it the ones who shout the loudest and have the biggest following? Or is it a different set of science? From different universities and different practical experiences where only one should believed and the others should for no reason other than we choose to believe someone else be labelled guff? I'm genuinely intrigued how people can be in one gang and with little critical reasoning just dismiss different "proof" out of hand. Now thats not to say that there aren't those in social media land who have their agendas and certainly do share misinformation but I'm interested how people, lay people mostly, can label youtube and news outlets as monkey fodder when they actually use the very same outlets to share their scathing attacks on others who disagree. " You make a good point and you should examine all the evidence you are presented with and goes doubly for things you that don't agree with what you already think. If something is produced to generate click bait or is generated to be copy and pasted that rings alarm bells. The other thing is read below the tagline. A lot of, and I don't mean all, the anti vax stuff has been repeated so many times that debunking it like shooting fish in a barrel. | |||
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"There is no point trying to reason it out. In fact there is no point discussing it. Folk watch videos and believe. Critical thinking or expert opinion don’t affect them. Remember “Dr” Gillian McKeith? It’s like that. Guff and pseudoscience and a lot of shouting. Who decides which "Dr's" are guff and pseudo science and which ones aren't? Is it the ones who shout the loudest and have the biggest following? Or is it a different set of science? From different universities and different practical experiences where only one should believed and the others should for no reason other than we choose to believe someone else be labelled guff? I'm genuinely intrigued how people can be in one gang and with little critical reasoning just dismiss different "proof" out of hand. Now thats not to say that there aren't those in social media land who have their agendas and certainly do share misinformation but I'm interested how people, lay people mostly, can label youtube and news outlets as monkey fodder when they actually use the very same outlets to share their scathing attacks on others who disagree. You make a good point and you should examine all the evidence you are presented with and goes doubly for things you that don't agree with what you already think. If something is produced to generate click bait or is generated to be copy and pasted that rings alarm bells. The other thing is read below the tagline. A lot of, and I don't mean all, the anti vax stuff has been repeated so many times that debunking it like shooting fish in a barrel." id love to know which anti vax crap has even been properly discussed let alone debunked 😂certainly not on the tv news or radio and certainly not on social media as its just censorsed and ends up with a ban so why has it been properly debated and debunked? | |||
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"There is no point trying to reason it out. In fact there is no point discussing it. Folk watch videos and believe. Critical thinking or expert opinion don’t affect them. Remember “Dr” Gillian McKeith? It’s like that. Guff and pseudoscience and a lot of shouting. Who decides which "Dr's" are guff and pseudo science and which ones aren't? Is it the ones who shout the loudest and have the biggest following? Or is it a different set of science? From different universities and different practical experiences where only one should believed and the others should for no reason other than we choose to believe someone else be labelled guff? I'm genuinely intrigued how people can be in one gang and with little critical reasoning just dismiss different "proof" out of hand. Now thats not to say that there aren't those in social media land who have their agendas and certainly do share misinformation but I'm interested how people, lay people mostly, can label youtube and news outlets as monkey fodder when they actually use the very same outlets to share their scathing attacks on others who disagree. You make a good point and you should examine all the evidence you are presented with and goes doubly for things you that don't agree with what you already think. If something is produced to generate click bait or is generated to be copy and pasted that rings alarm bells. The other thing is read below the tagline. A lot of, and I don't mean all, the anti vax stuff has been repeated so many times that debunking it like shooting fish in a barrel.id love to know which anti vax crap has even been properly discussed let alone debunked 😂certainly not on the tv news or radio and certainly not on social media as its just censorsed and ends up with a ban so why has it been properly debated and debunked? " u can barely have an adult convo on here without some silly comment like tin foil hat wearers ect so highley unlikely to ever be a proper discussion with professionals in the industry | |||
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"How do "they" know covid infections are up? Up on what? Presumably "infections" may also go down as well as up? Healthcare professionals are people too. Also numbers of folk presenting at GP/Hospital. I’ve already had the current strain. I’ve been invited for the combo jab. Mixed feelings but with frail elderly and prem babies in my family/social group, I’ll be getting jabbed. It is my understanding that the mRNA vaccines were never designed or tested to prevent transmission and have never been shown to do so. The media made that up and rammed it down our throats I would welcome anyone who can prove me wrong. Your understanding is a little out. Whilst the vaccines weren't touted as reducing infectivity, studies of thousands of people who had them showed declining rates of infections. Obviously such additional benefits amongst millions of people gave wonderful benefits to us all, including those who haven't had vaccination, as well as boosting the economy. " My understanding is good thanks, you misread my comment and are conflating transmission and infection. mRNA therapies reduced symptoms. Reduced is in the past tense, get enough jabs and you get original antigenic sin, this has been proven. 3 jabs have been shown to be enough to permanently fix your immune response, making it useless as the virus mutates. Cold scientific fact. Look it up for yourself | |||
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"How do "they" know covid infections are up? Up on what? Presumably "infections" may also go down as well as up? Healthcare professionals are people too. Also numbers of folk presenting at GP/Hospital. I’ve already had the current strain. I’ve been invited for the combo jab. Mixed feelings but with frail elderly and prem babies in my family/social group, I’ll be getting jabbed. It is my understanding that the mRNA vaccines were never designed or tested to prevent transmission and have never been shown to do so. The media made that up and rammed it down our throats I would welcome anyone who can prove me wrong. Your understanding is a little out. Whilst the vaccines weren't touted as reducing infectivity, studies of thousands of people who had them showed declining rates of infections. Obviously such additional benefits amongst millions of people gave wonderful benefits to us all, including those who haven't had vaccination, as well as boosting the economy. My understanding is good thanks, you misread my comment and are conflating transmission and infection. mRNA therapies reduced symptoms. Reduced is in the past tense, get enough jabs and you get original antigenic sin, this has been proven. 3 jabs have been shown to be enough to permanently fix your immune response, making it useless as the virus mutates. Cold scientific fact. Look it up for yourself " original antigenic sin is an interesting theory in relation to lots of different viruses not just covid. Not been 100% proved but there is a lot evidence that points towards it being valid observation. I don't think you can say 3 or any number of vaccinations or natural infections can "fix" your immune system. Original antigenic system doesn't make your immune system useless against a mutated strain just less effective. | |||
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"How do "they" know covid infections are up? Up on what? Presumably "infections" may also go down as well as up? Healthcare professionals are people too. Also numbers of folk presenting at GP/Hospital. I’ve already had the current strain. I’ve been invited for the combo jab. Mixed feelings but with frail elderly and prem babies in my family/social group, I’ll be getting jabbed. It is my understanding that the mRNA vaccines were never designed or tested to prevent transmission and have never been shown to do so. The media made that up and rammed it down our throats I would welcome anyone who can prove me wrong. Your understanding is a little out. Whilst the vaccines weren't touted as reducing infectivity, studies of thousands of people who had them showed declining rates of infections. Obviously such additional benefits amongst millions of people gave wonderful benefits to us all, including those who haven't had vaccination, as well as boosting the economy. My understanding is good thanks, you misread my comment and are conflating transmission and infection. mRNA therapies reduced symptoms. Reduced is in the past tense, get enough jabs and you get original antigenic sin, this has been proven. 3 jabs have been shown to be enough to permanently fix your immune response, making it useless as the virus mutates. Cold scientific fact. Look it up for yourself " as ive always said on these forums, can you give me any evidence to prove its the vaccine alone that reduced transmissions or infections, because at the same time people were also building natural immunity, also because the virus were so deadly the population dropped which will of reduced infection rates so to say "the vaccines work because numbers dropped" is a load of old shite id love to see a link or study to prove otherwisw | |||
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"How do "they" know covid infections are up? Up on what? Presumably "infections" may also go down as well as up? Healthcare professionals are people too. Also numbers of folk presenting at GP/Hospital. I’ve already had the current strain. I’ve been invited for the combo jab. Mixed feelings but with frail elderly and prem babies in my family/social group, I’ll be getting jabbed. It is my understanding that the mRNA vaccines were never designed or tested to prevent transmission and have never been shown to do so. The media made that up and rammed it down our throats I would welcome anyone who can prove me wrong. Your understanding is a little out. Whilst the vaccines weren't touted as reducing infectivity, studies of thousands of people who had them showed declining rates of infections. Obviously such additional benefits amongst millions of people gave wonderful benefits to us all, including those who haven't had vaccination, as well as boosting the economy. My understanding is good thanks, you misread my comment and are conflating transmission and infection. mRNA therapies reduced symptoms. Reduced is in the past tense, get enough jabs and you get original antigenic sin, this has been proven. 3 jabs have been shown to be enough to permanently fix your immune response, making it useless as the virus mutates. Cold scientific fact. Look it up for yourself as ive always said on these forums, can you give me any evidence to prove its the vaccine alone that reduced transmissions or infections, because at the same time people were also building natural immunity, also because the virus were so deadly the population dropped which will of reduced infection rates so to say "the vaccines work because numbers dropped" is a load of old shite id love to see a link or study to prove otherwisw " We have crossed wires. We know the therapy was never intended to stop infection or transmission and found not to in the manufacturers own studies before roll out. That was a government/client media myth. A fabrication. Of course most people believed it. Why wouldn’t they? | |||
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"How do "they" know covid infections are up? Up on what? Presumably "infections" may also go down as well as up? Healthcare professionals are people too. Also numbers of folk presenting at GP/Hospital. I’ve already had the current strain. I’ve been invited for the combo jab. Mixed feelings but with frail elderly and prem babies in my family/social group, I’ll be getting jabbed. It is my understanding that the mRNA vaccines were never designed or tested to prevent transmission and have never been shown to do so. The media made that up and rammed it down our throats I would welcome anyone who can prove me wrong. Your understanding is a little out. Whilst the vaccines weren't touted as reducing infectivity, studies of thousands of people who had them showed declining rates of infections. Obviously such additional benefits amongst millions of people gave wonderful benefits to us all, including those who haven't had vaccination, as well as boosting the economy. My understanding is good thanks, you misread my comment and are conflating transmission and infection. mRNA therapies reduced symptoms. Reduced is in the past tense, get enough jabs and you get original antigenic sin, this has been proven. 3 jabs have been shown to be enough to permanently fix your immune response, making it useless as the virus mutates. Cold scientific fact. Look it up for yourself as ive always said on these forums, can you give me any evidence to prove its the vaccine alone that reduced transmissions or infections, because at the same time people were also building natural immunity, also because the virus were so deadly the population dropped which will of reduced infection rates so to say "the vaccines work because numbers dropped" is a load of old shite id love to see a link or study to prove otherwisw We have crossed wires. We know the therapy was never intended to stop infection or transmission and found not to in the manufacturers own studies before roll out. That was a government/client media myth. A fabrication. Of course most people believed it. Why wouldn’t they?" Well wasn't one of the early messages crammed down our throats something like... "stop the spread, have a jab or else you're a selfish cunt" I paraphrase. | |||
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"How do "they" know covid infections are up? Up on what? Presumably "infections" may also go down as well as up? Healthcare professionals are people too. Also numbers of folk presenting at GP/Hospital. I’ve already had the current strain. I’ve been invited for the combo jab. Mixed feelings but with frail elderly and prem babies in my family/social group, I’ll be getting jabbed. It is my understanding that the mRNA vaccines were never designed or tested to prevent transmission and have never been shown to do so. The media made that up and rammed it down our throats I would welcome anyone who can prove me wrong. Your understanding is a little out. Whilst the vaccines weren't touted as reducing infectivity, studies of thousands of people who had them showed declining rates of infections. Obviously such additional benefits amongst millions of people gave wonderful benefits to us all, including those who haven't had vaccination, as well as boosting the economy. My understanding is good thanks, you misread my comment and are conflating transmission and infection. mRNA therapies reduced symptoms. Reduced is in the past tense, get enough jabs and you get original antigenic sin, this has been proven. 3 jabs have been shown to be enough to permanently fix your immune response, making it useless as the virus mutates. Cold scientific fact. Look it up for yourself as ive always said on these forums, can you give me any evidence to prove its the vaccine alone that reduced transmissions or infections, because at the same time people were also building natural immunity, also because the virus were so deadly the population dropped which will of reduced infection rates so to say "the vaccines work because numbers dropped" is a load of old shite id love to see a link or study to prove otherwisw We have crossed wires. We know the therapy was never intended to stop infection or transmission and found not to in the manufacturers own studies before roll out. That was a government/client media myth. A fabrication. Of course most people believed it. Why wouldn’t they? Well wasn't one of the early messages crammed down our throats something like... "stop the spread, have a jab or else you're a selfish cunt" I paraphrase. " you got it mixed it, it were more like "get a jab u selfish pricks or you'll kill the grannies" | |||
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"How do "they" know covid infections are up? Up on what? Presumably "infections" may also go down as well as up? Healthcare professionals are people too. Also numbers of folk presenting at GP/Hospital. I’ve already had the current strain. I’ve been invited for the combo jab. Mixed feelings but with frail elderly and prem babies in my family/social group, I’ll be getting jabbed. It is my understanding that the mRNA vaccines were never designed or tested to prevent transmission and have never been shown to do so. The media made that up and rammed it down our throats I would welcome anyone who can prove me wrong. Your understanding is a little out. Whilst the vaccines weren't touted as reducing infectivity, studies of thousands of people who had them showed declining rates of infections. Obviously such additional benefits amongst millions of people gave wonderful benefits to us all, including those who haven't had vaccination, as well as boosting the economy. My understanding is good thanks, you misread my comment and are conflating transmission and infection. mRNA therapies reduced symptoms. Reduced is in the past tense, get enough jabs and you get original antigenic sin, this has been proven. 3 jabs have been shown to be enough to permanently fix your immune response, making it useless as the virus mutates. Cold scientific fact. Look it up for yourself as ive always said on these forums, can you give me any evidence to prove its the vaccine alone that reduced transmissions or infections, because at the same time people were also building natural immunity, also because the virus were so deadly the population dropped which will of reduced infection rates so to say "the vaccines work because numbers dropped" is a load of old shite id love to see a link or study to prove otherwisw " The facts are the facts, they are backed by indisputable evidence of dramatic reduction, you choose not to believe them that's for you to deal with. | |||
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"How do "they" know covid infections are up? Up on what? Presumably "infections" may also go down as well as up? Healthcare professionals are people too. Also numbers of folk presenting at GP/Hospital. I’ve already had the current strain. I’ve been invited for the combo jab. Mixed feelings but with frail elderly and prem babies in my family/social group, I’ll be getting jabbed. It is my understanding that the mRNA vaccines were never designed or tested to prevent transmission and have never been shown to do so. The media made that up and rammed it down our throats I would welcome anyone who can prove me wrong. Your understanding is a little out. Whilst the vaccines weren't touted as reducing infectivity, studies of thousands of people who had them showed declining rates of infections. Obviously such additional benefits amongst millions of people gave wonderful benefits to us all, including those who haven't had vaccination, as well as boosting the economy. My understanding is good thanks, you misread my comment and are conflating transmission and infection. mRNA therapies reduced symptoms. Reduced is in the past tense, get enough jabs and you get original antigenic sin, this has been proven. 3 jabs have been shown to be enough to permanently fix your immune response, making it useless as the virus mutates. Cold scientific fact. Look it up for yourself " Ah ha, the YouTube dictionary of medical facts | |||
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"Imgine getting multiple jabs for something that you've most likely already caught already and survived expecially after some of the information thats circulating in regards to the side effects and virtually 0 proof of any positives of having them lol. Does it stop you catching it? Nope Does it stop you spreading it? Nope Does it stop you dying? Nope Have we seen multiple cases of side effects and increases in heart related deaths? Yep" Following your lines - Does anything stop the hogswill that's not based on the scientific method? Nope, sadly  | |||
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"There is no point trying to reason it out. In fact there is no point discussing it. Folk watch videos and believe. Critical thinking or expert opinion don’t affect them. Remember “Dr” Gillian McKeith? It’s like that. Guff and pseudoscience and a lot of shouting. Who decides which "Dr's" are guff and pseudo science and which ones aren't? Is it the ones who shout the loudest and have the biggest following? Or is it a different set of science? From different universities and different practical experiences where only one should believed and the others should for no reason other than we choose to believe someone else be labelled guff? I'm genuinely intrigued how people can be in one gang and with little critical reasoning just dismiss different "proof" out of hand. Now thats not to say that there aren't those in social media land who have their agendas and certainly do share misinformation but I'm interested how people, lay people mostly, can label youtube and news outlets as monkey fodder when they actually use the very same outlets to share their scathing attacks on others who disagree. You make a good point and you should examine all the evidence you are presented with and goes doubly for things you that don't agree with what you already think. If something is produced to generate click bait or is generated to be copy and pasted that rings alarm bells. The other thing is read below the tagline. A lot of, and I don't mean all, the anti vax stuff has been repeated so many times that debunking it like shooting fish in a barrel.id love to know which anti vax crap has even been properly discussed let alone debunked 😂certainly not on the tv news or radio and certainly not on social media as its just censorsed and ends up with a ban so why has it been properly debated and debunked? u can barely have an adult convo on here without some silly comment like tin foil hat wearers ect so highley unlikely to ever be a proper discussion with professionals in the industry " Peer-reviewed published evidence, from credible reputable sources always gets intelligent discussions started. | |||
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"How do "they" know covid infections are up? Up on what? Presumably "infections" may also go down as well as up? Healthcare professionals are people too. Also numbers of folk presenting at GP/Hospital. I’ve already had the current strain. I’ve been invited for the combo jab. Mixed feelings but with frail elderly and prem babies in my family/social group, I’ll be getting jabbed. It is my understanding that the mRNA vaccines were never designed or tested to prevent transmission and have never been shown to do so. The media made that up and rammed it down our throats I would welcome anyone who can prove me wrong. Your understanding is a little out. Whilst the vaccines weren't touted as reducing infectivity, studies of thousands of people who had them showed declining rates of infections. Obviously such additional benefits amongst millions of people gave wonderful benefits to us all, including those who haven't had vaccination, as well as boosting the economy. My understanding is good thanks, you misread my comment and are conflating transmission and infection. mRNA therapies reduced symptoms. Reduced is in the past tense, get enough jabs and you get original antigenic sin, this has been proven. 3 jabs have been shown to be enough to permanently fix your immune response, making it useless as the virus mutates. Cold scientific fact. Look it up for yourself as ive always said on these forums, can you give me any evidence to prove its the vaccine alone that reduced transmissions or infections, because at the same time people were also building natural immunity, also because the virus were so deadly the population dropped which will of reduced infection rates so to say "the vaccines work because numbers dropped" is a load of old shite id love to see a link or study to prove otherwisw The facts are the facts, they are backed by indisputable evidence of dramatic reduction, you choose not to believe them that's for you to deal with. " i expected nothing less 😂 | |||
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"There is no point trying to reason it out. In fact there is no point discussing it. Folk watch videos and believe. Critical thinking or expert opinion don’t affect them. Remember “Dr” Gillian McKeith? It’s like that. Guff and pseudoscience and a lot of shouting. Who decides which "Dr's" are guff and pseudo science and which ones aren't? Is it the ones who shout the loudest and have the biggest following? Or is it a different set of science? From different universities and different practical experiences where only one should believed and the others should for no reason other than we choose to believe someone else be labelled guff? I'm genuinely intrigued how people can be in one gang and with little critical reasoning just dismiss different "proof" out of hand. Now thats not to say that there aren't those in social media land who have their agendas and certainly do share misinformation but I'm interested how people, lay people mostly, can label youtube and news outlets as monkey fodder when they actually use the very same outlets to share their scathing attacks on others who disagree. You make a good point and you should examine all the evidence you are presented with and goes doubly for things you that don't agree with what you already think. If something is produced to generate click bait or is generated to be copy and pasted that rings alarm bells. The other thing is read below the tagline. A lot of, and I don't mean all, the anti vax stuff has been repeated so many times that debunking it like shooting fish in a barrel.id love to know which anti vax crap has even been properly discussed let alone debunked 😂certainly not on the tv news or radio and certainly not on social media as its just censorsed and ends up with a ban so why has it been properly debated and debunked? u can barely have an adult convo on here without some silly comment like tin foil hat wearers ect so highley unlikely to ever be a proper discussion with professionals in the industry Peer-reviewed published evidence, from credible reputable sources always gets intelligent discussions started. " and what exactly do these papers ypu talk about so much prove how the vaccines work? | |||
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"How do "they" know covid infections are up? Up on what? Presumably "infections" may also go down as well as up? Healthcare professionals are people too. Also numbers of folk presenting at GP/Hospital. I’ve already had the current strain. I’ve been invited for the combo jab. Mixed feelings but with frail elderly and prem babies in my family/social group, I’ll be getting jabbed. It is my understanding that the mRNA vaccines were never designed or tested to prevent transmission and have never been shown to do so. The media made that up and rammed it down our throats I would welcome anyone who can prove me wrong. Your understanding is a little out. Whilst the vaccines weren't touted as reducing infectivity, studies of thousands of people who had them showed declining rates of infections. Obviously such additional benefits amongst millions of people gave wonderful benefits to us all, including those who haven't had vaccination, as well as boosting the economy. My understanding is good thanks, you misread my comment and are conflating transmission and infection. mRNA therapies reduced symptoms. Reduced is in the past tense, get enough jabs and you get original antigenic sin, this has been proven. 3 jabs have been shown to be enough to permanently fix your immune response, making it useless as the virus mutates. Cold scientific fact. Look it up for yourself as ive always said on these forums, can you give me any evidence to prove its the vaccine alone that reduced transmissions or infections, because at the same time people were also building natural immunity, also because the virus were so deadly the population dropped which will of reduced infection rates so to say "the vaccines work because numbers dropped" is a load of old shite id love to see a link or study to prove otherwisw The facts are the facts, they are backed by indisputable evidence of dramatic reduction, you choose not to believe them that's for you to deal with. " give me some evidence then you talk about so much, ive yet to find any other than "peer reviewed studies say they work" so you best all just believe they do and anyone that doesn't is a looney youtube watcher 😂😂 | |||
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"How do "they" know covid infections are up? Up on what? Presumably "infections" may also go down as well as up? Healthcare professionals are people too. Also numbers of folk presenting at GP/Hospital. I’ve already had the current strain. I’ve been invited for the combo jab. Mixed feelings but with frail elderly and prem babies in my family/social group, I’ll be getting jabbed. It is my understanding that the mRNA vaccines were never designed or tested to prevent transmission and have never been shown to do so. The media made that up and rammed it down our throats I would welcome anyone who can prove me wrong. Your understanding is a little out. Whilst the vaccines weren't touted as reducing infectivity, studies of thousands of people who had them showed declining rates of infections. Obviously such additional benefits amongst millions of people gave wonderful benefits to us all, including those who haven't had vaccination, as well as boosting the economy. My understanding is good thanks, you misread my comment and are conflating transmission and infection. mRNA therapies reduced symptoms. Reduced is in the past tense, get enough jabs and you get original antigenic sin, this has been proven. 3 jabs have been shown to be enough to permanently fix your immune response, making it useless as the virus mutates. Cold scientific fact. Look it up for yourself as ive always said on these forums, can you give me any evidence to prove its the vaccine alone that reduced transmissions or infections, because at the same time people were also building natural immunity, also because the virus were so deadly the population dropped which will of reduced infection rates so to say "the vaccines work because numbers dropped" is a load of old shite id love to see a link or study to prove otherwisw The facts are the facts, they are backed by indisputable evidence of dramatic reduction, you choose not to believe them that's for you to deal with. give me some evidence then you talk about so much, ive yet to find any other than "peer reviewed studies say they work" so you best all just believe they do and anyone that doesn't is a looney youtube watcher 😂😂" This is off full fact: “Pfizer was not required to test the impact of its vaccine on transmission prior to its release.” “A spokesperson from Pfizer told Full Fact by email: “The primary endpoints of our Covid-19 vaccine study were to evaluate the efficacy of the vaccine candidate in preventing Covid-19 disease in participants who had not been infected with the SARS-CoV-2 virus before they received the vaccine […]The trials were not designed to evaluate the vaccine’s effectiveness against transmission of SARS-CoV-2.” How many months were the government and media pushing a narrative of 98% prevention of transmission before roll out? They didn’t know and they couldn’t have known. The government staked everything on one bet and lost a generation of debt to pharma companies that kept their mouths shut while the media shamed people who asked questions. | |||
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"How do "they" know covid infections are up? Up on what? Presumably "infections" may also go down as well as up? Healthcare professionals are people too. Also numbers of folk presenting at GP/Hospital. I’ve already had the current strain. I’ve been invited for the combo jab. Mixed feelings but with frail elderly and prem babies in my family/social group, I’ll be getting jabbed. It is my understanding that the mRNA vaccines were never designed or tested to prevent transmission and have never been shown to do so. The media made that up and rammed it down our throats I would welcome anyone who can prove me wrong. Your understanding is a little out. Whilst the vaccines weren't touted as reducing infectivity, studies of thousands of people who had them showed declining rates of infections. Obviously such additional benefits amongst millions of people gave wonderful benefits to us all, including those who haven't had vaccination, as well as boosting the economy. My understanding is good thanks, you misread my comment and are conflating transmission and infection. mRNA therapies reduced symptoms. Reduced is in the past tense, get enough jabs and you get original antigenic sin, this has been proven. 3 jabs have been shown to be enough to permanently fix your immune response, making it useless as the virus mutates. Cold scientific fact. Look it up for yourself Ah ha, the YouTube dictionary of medical facts" So are you suggesting that NOTHING on you tube is factually correct? There will be quite a lot of under graduates working on their science degrees going to be very disappointed to hear that if it's true. | |||
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"How do "they" know covid infections are up? Up on what? Presumably "infections" may also go down as well as up? Healthcare professionals are people too. Also numbers of folk presenting at GP/Hospital. I’ve already had the current strain. I’ve been invited for the combo jab. Mixed feelings but with frail elderly and prem babies in my family/social group, I’ll be getting jabbed. It is my understanding that the mRNA vaccines were never designed or tested to prevent transmission and have never been shown to do so. The media made that up and rammed it down our throats I would welcome anyone who can prove me wrong. Your understanding is a little out. Whilst the vaccines weren't touted as reducing infectivity, studies of thousands of people who had them showed declining rates of infections. Obviously such additional benefits amongst millions of people gave wonderful benefits to us all, including those who haven't had vaccination, as well as boosting the economy. My understanding is good thanks, you misread my comment and are conflating transmission and infection. mRNA therapies reduced symptoms. Reduced is in the past tense, get enough jabs and you get original antigenic sin, this has been proven. 3 jabs have been shown to be enough to permanently fix your immune response, making it useless as the virus mutates. Cold scientific fact. Look it up for yourself Ah ha, the YouTube dictionary of medical facts So are you suggesting that NOTHING on you tube is factually correct? There will be quite a lot of under graduates working on their science degrees going to be very disappointed to hear that if it's true. " they didnt say that | |||
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"How do "they" know covid infections are up? Up on what? Presumably "infections" may also go down as well as up? Healthcare professionals are people too. Also numbers of folk presenting at GP/Hospital. I’ve already had the current strain. I’ve been invited for the combo jab. Mixed feelings but with frail elderly and prem babies in my family/social group, I’ll be getting jabbed. It is my understanding that the mRNA vaccines were never designed or tested to prevent transmission and have never been shown to do so. The media made that up and rammed it down our throats I would welcome anyone who can prove me wrong. Your understanding is a little out. Whilst the vaccines weren't touted as reducing infectivity, studies of thousands of people who had them showed declining rates of infections. Obviously such additional benefits amongst millions of people gave wonderful benefits to us all, including those who haven't had vaccination, as well as boosting the economy. My understanding is good thanks, you misread my comment and are conflating transmission and infection. mRNA therapies reduced symptoms. Reduced is in the past tense, get enough jabs and you get original antigenic sin, this has been proven. 3 jabs have been shown to be enough to permanently fix your immune response, making it useless as the virus mutates. Cold scientific fact. Look it up for yourself Ah ha, the YouTube dictionary of medical facts So are you suggesting that NOTHING on you tube is factually correct? There will be quite a lot of under graduates working on their science degrees going to be very disappointed to hear that if it's true. " they said the stuff on youtube they dont agree with isn't true but if its a sourdough recipe they like then youtube is great | |||
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"How do "they" know covid infections are up? Up on what? Presumably "infections" may also go down as well as up? Healthcare professionals are people too. Also numbers of folk presenting at GP/Hospital. I’ve already had the current strain. I’ve been invited for the combo jab. Mixed feelings but with frail elderly and prem babies in my family/social group, I’ll be getting jabbed. It is my understanding that the mRNA vaccines were never designed or tested to prevent transmission and have never been shown to do so. The media made that up and rammed it down our throats I would welcome anyone who can prove me wrong. Your understanding is a little out. Whilst the vaccines weren't touted as reducing infectivity, studies of thousands of people who had them showed declining rates of infections. Obviously such additional benefits amongst millions of people gave wonderful benefits to us all, including those who haven't had vaccination, as well as boosting the economy. My understanding is good thanks, you misread my comment and are conflating transmission and infection. mRNA therapies reduced symptoms. Reduced is in the past tense, get enough jabs and you get original antigenic sin, this has been proven. 3 jabs have been shown to be enough to permanently fix your immune response, making it useless as the virus mutates. Cold scientific fact. Look it up for yourself Ah ha, the YouTube dictionary of medical facts So are you suggesting that NOTHING on you tube is factually correct? There will be quite a lot of under graduates working on their science degrees going to be very disappointed to hear that if it's true. they didnt say that " So kind of comes back to the point about... YouTube as a source is trusted in some cases and not in others.? So YouTube per se is an ok source of facts? | |||
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"How do "they" know covid infections are up? Up on what? Presumably "infections" may also go down as well as up? Healthcare professionals are people too. Also numbers of folk presenting at GP/Hospital. I’ve already had the current strain. I’ve been invited for the combo jab. Mixed feelings but with frail elderly and prem babies in my family/social group, I’ll be getting jabbed. It is my understanding that the mRNA vaccines were never designed or tested to prevent transmission and have never been shown to do so. The media made that up and rammed it down our throats I would welcome anyone who can prove me wrong. Your understanding is a little out. Whilst the vaccines weren't touted as reducing infectivity, studies of thousands of people who had them showed declining rates of infections. Obviously such additional benefits amongst millions of people gave wonderful benefits to us all, including those who haven't had vaccination, as well as boosting the economy. My understanding is good thanks, you misread my comment and are conflating transmission and infection. mRNA therapies reduced symptoms. Reduced is in the past tense, get enough jabs and you get original antigenic sin, this has been proven. 3 jabs have been shown to be enough to permanently fix your immune response, making it useless as the virus mutates. Cold scientific fact. Look it up for yourself Ah ha, the YouTube dictionary of medical facts So are you suggesting that NOTHING on you tube is factually correct? There will be quite a lot of under graduates working on their science degrees going to be very disappointed to hear that if it's true. they didnt say that So kind of comes back to the point about... YouTube as a source is trusted in some cases and not in others.? So YouTube per se is an ok source of facts? " well i use it all the time for animal needs and to diagnose illnesses with livestock but suppose i shouldnt considering theyre just youtube vets lol what do they know eh | |||
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"How do "they" know covid infections are up? Up on what? Presumably "infections" may also go down as well as up? Healthcare professionals are people too. Also numbers of folk presenting at GP/Hospital. I’ve already had the current strain. I’ve been invited for the combo jab. Mixed feelings but with frail elderly and prem babies in my family/social group, I’ll be getting jabbed. It is my understanding that the mRNA vaccines were never designed or tested to prevent transmission and have never been shown to do so. The media made that up and rammed it down our throats I would welcome anyone who can prove me wrong. Your understanding is a little out. Whilst the vaccines weren't touted as reducing infectivity, studies of thousands of people who had them showed declining rates of infections. Obviously such additional benefits amongst millions of people gave wonderful benefits to us all, including those who haven't had vaccination, as well as boosting the economy. My understanding is good thanks, you misread my comment and are conflating transmission and infection. mRNA therapies reduced symptoms. Reduced is in the past tense, get enough jabs and you get original antigenic sin, this has been proven. 3 jabs have been shown to be enough to permanently fix your immune response, making it useless as the virus mutates. Cold scientific fact. Look it up for yourself Ah ha, the YouTube dictionary of medical facts So are you suggesting that NOTHING on you tube is factually correct? There will be quite a lot of under graduates working on their science degrees going to be very disappointed to hear that if it's true. they didnt say that So kind of comes back to the point about... YouTube as a source is trusted in some cases and not in others.? So YouTube per se is an ok source of facts? " YouTube ....trusted Those are two words that should never be used together. | |||
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"How do "they" know covid infections are up? Up on what? Presumably "infections" may also go down as well as up? Healthcare professionals are people too. Also numbers of folk presenting at GP/Hospital. I’ve already had the current strain. I’ve been invited for the combo jab. Mixed feelings but with frail elderly and prem babies in my family/social group, I’ll be getting jabbed. It is my understanding that the mRNA vaccines were never designed or tested to prevent transmission and have never been shown to do so. The media made that up and rammed it down our throats I would welcome anyone who can prove me wrong. Your understanding is a little out. Whilst the vaccines weren't touted as reducing infectivity, studies of thousands of people who had them showed declining rates of infections. Obviously such additional benefits amongst millions of people gave wonderful benefits to us all, including those who haven't had vaccination, as well as boosting the economy. My understanding is good thanks, you misread my comment and are conflating transmission and infection. mRNA therapies reduced symptoms. Reduced is in the past tense, get enough jabs and you get original antigenic sin, this has been proven. 3 jabs have been shown to be enough to permanently fix your immune response, making it useless as the virus mutates. Cold scientific fact. Look it up for yourself as ive always said on these forums, can you give me any evidence to prove its the vaccine alone that reduced transmissions or infections, because at the same time people were also building natural immunity, also because the virus were so deadly the population dropped which will of reduced infection rates so to say "the vaccines work because numbers dropped" is a load of old shite id love to see a link or study to prove otherwisw The facts are the facts, they are backed by indisputable evidence of dramatic reduction, you choose not to believe them that's for you to deal with. i expected nothing less 😂" Good | |||
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"How do "they" know covid infections are up? Up on what? Presumably "infections" may also go down as well as up? Healthcare professionals are people too. Also numbers of folk presenting at GP/Hospital. I’ve already had the current strain. I’ve been invited for the combo jab. Mixed feelings but with frail elderly and prem babies in my family/social group, I’ll be getting jabbed. It is my understanding that the mRNA vaccines were never designed or tested to prevent transmission and have never been shown to do so. The media made that up and rammed it down our throats I would welcome anyone who can prove me wrong. Your understanding is a little out. Whilst the vaccines weren't touted as reducing infectivity, studies of thousands of people who had them showed declining rates of infections. Obviously such additional benefits amongst millions of people gave wonderful benefits to us all, including those who haven't had vaccination, as well as boosting the economy. My understanding is good thanks, you misread my comment and are conflating transmission and infection. mRNA therapies reduced symptoms. Reduced is in the past tense, get enough jabs and you get original antigenic sin, this has been proven. 3 jabs have been shown to be enough to permanently fix your immune response, making it useless as the virus mutates. Cold scientific fact. Look it up for yourself Ah ha, the YouTube dictionary of medical facts So are you suggesting that NOTHING on you tube is factually correct? There will be quite a lot of under graduates working on their science degrees going to be very disappointed to hear that if it's true. they didnt say that So kind of comes back to the point about... YouTube as a source is trusted in some cases and not in others.? So YouTube per se is an ok source of facts? YouTube ....trusted Those are two words that should never be used together. " Should probably let a lot of the universities know that they should stop using it to teach their courses | |||
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"How do "they" know covid infections are up? Up on what? Presumably "infections" may also go down as well as up? Healthcare professionals are people too. Also numbers of folk presenting at GP/Hospital. I’ve already had the current strain. I’ve been invited for the combo jab. Mixed feelings but with frail elderly and prem babies in my family/social group, I’ll be getting jabbed. It is my understanding that the mRNA vaccines were never designed or tested to prevent transmission and have never been shown to do so. The media made that up and rammed it down our throats I would welcome anyone who can prove me wrong. Your understanding is a little out. Whilst the vaccines weren't touted as reducing infectivity, studies of thousands of people who had them showed declining rates of infections. Obviously such additional benefits amongst millions of people gave wonderful benefits to us all, including those who haven't had vaccination, as well as boosting the economy. My understanding is good thanks, you misread my comment and are conflating transmission and infection. mRNA therapies reduced symptoms. Reduced is in the past tense, get enough jabs and you get original antigenic sin, this has been proven. 3 jabs have been shown to be enough to permanently fix your immune response, making it useless as the virus mutates. Cold scientific fact. Look it up for yourself Ah ha, the YouTube dictionary of medical facts So are you suggesting that NOTHING on you tube is factually correct? There will be quite a lot of under graduates working on their science degrees going to be very disappointed to hear that if it's true. they didnt say that So kind of comes back to the point about... YouTube as a source is trusted in some cases and not in others.? So YouTube per se is an ok source of facts? YouTube ....trusted Those are two words that should never be used together. Should probably let a lot of the universities know that they should stop using it to teach their courses " probably the same universities teaching the specialists giving out the covid advice and peer reviewed studies 😂😂 | |||
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"How do "they" know covid infections are up? Up on what? Presumably "infections" may also go down as well as up? Healthcare professionals are people too. Also numbers of folk presenting at GP/Hospital. I’ve already had the current strain. I’ve been invited for the combo jab. Mixed feelings but with frail elderly and prem babies in my family/social group, I’ll be getting jabbed. It is my understanding that the mRNA vaccines were never designed or tested to prevent transmission and have never been shown to do so. The media made that up and rammed it down our throats I would welcome anyone who can prove me wrong. Your understanding is a little out. Whilst the vaccines weren't touted as reducing infectivity, studies of thousands of people who had them showed declining rates of infections. Obviously such additional benefits amongst millions of people gave wonderful benefits to us all, including those who haven't had vaccination, as well as boosting the economy. My understanding is good thanks, you misread my comment and are conflating transmission and infection. mRNA therapies reduced symptoms. Reduced is in the past tense, get enough jabs and you get original antigenic sin, this has been proven. 3 jabs have been shown to be enough to permanently fix your immune response, making it useless as the virus mutates. Cold scientific fact. Look it up for yourself Ah ha, the YouTube dictionary of medical facts So are you suggesting that NOTHING on you tube is factually correct? There will be quite a lot of under graduates working on their science degrees going to be very disappointed to hear that if it's true. they didnt say that So kind of comes back to the point about... YouTube as a source is trusted in some cases and not in others.? So YouTube per se is an ok source of facts? YouTube ....trusted Those are two words that should never be used together. Should probably let a lot of the universities know that they should stop using it to teach their courses " Will do | |||
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"There is no point trying to reason it out. In fact there is no point discussing it. Folk watch videos and believe. Critical thinking or expert opinion don’t affect them. Remember “Dr” Gillian McKeith? It’s like that. Guff and pseudoscience and a lot of shouting. Who decides which "Dr's" are guff and pseudo science and which ones aren't? Is it the ones who shout the loudest and have the biggest following? Or is it a different set of science? From different universities and different practical experiences where only one should believed and the others should for no reason other than we choose to believe someone else be labelled guff? I'm genuinely intrigued how people can be in one gang and with little critical reasoning just dismiss different "proof" out of hand. Now thats not to say that there aren't those in social media land who have their agendas and certainly do share misinformation but I'm interested how people, lay people mostly, can label youtube and news outlets as monkey fodder when they actually use the very same outlets to share their scathing attacks on others who disagree. You make a good point and you should examine all the evidence you are presented with and goes doubly for things you that don't agree with what you already think. If something is produced to generate click bait or is generated to be copy and pasted that rings alarm bells. The other thing is read below the tagline. A lot of, and I don't mean all, the anti vax stuff has been repeated so many times that debunking it like shooting fish in a barrel.id love to know which anti vax crap has even been properly discussed let alone debunked 😂certainly not on the tv news or radio and certainly not on social media as its just censorsed and ends up with a ban so why has it been properly debated and debunked? u can barely have an adult convo on here without some silly comment like tin foil hat wearers ect so highley unlikely to ever be a proper discussion with professionals in the industry Peer-reviewed published evidence, from credible reputable sources always gets intelligent discussions started. and what exactly do these papers ypu talk about so much prove how the vaccines work? " The available evidence, subject to the scientific method. | |||
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"There is no point trying to reason it out. In fact there is no point discussing it. Folk watch videos and believe. Critical thinking or expert opinion don’t affect them. Remember “Dr” Gillian McKeith? It’s like that. Guff and pseudoscience and a lot of shouting. Who decides which "Dr's" are guff and pseudo science and which ones aren't? Is it the ones who shout the loudest and have the biggest following? Or is it a different set of science? From different universities and different practical experiences where only one should believed and the others should for no reason other than we choose to believe someone else be labelled guff? I'm genuinely intrigued how people can be in one gang and with little critical reasoning just dismiss different "proof" out of hand. Now thats not to say that there aren't those in social media land who have their agendas and certainly do share misinformation but I'm interested how people, lay people mostly, can label youtube and news outlets as monkey fodder when they actually use the very same outlets to share their scathing attacks on others who disagree. You make a good point and you should examine all the evidence you are presented with and goes doubly for things you that don't agree with what you already think. If something is produced to generate click bait or is generated to be copy and pasted that rings alarm bells. The other thing is read below the tagline. A lot of, and I don't mean all, the anti vax stuff has been repeated so many times that debunking it like shooting fish in a barrel.id love to know which anti vax crap has even been properly discussed let alone debunked 😂certainly not on the tv news or radio and certainly not on social media as its just censorsed and ends up with a ban so why has it been properly debated and debunked? u can barely have an adult convo on here without some silly comment like tin foil hat wearers ect so highley unlikely to ever be a proper discussion with professionals in the industry Peer-reviewed published evidence, from credible reputable sources always gets intelligent discussions started. and what exactly do these papers ypu talk about so much prove how the vaccines work? The available evidence, subject to the scientific method. " which says? And shows what? | |||
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"The parts of (any) virus which your immune system recognises change. This is how you keep getting colds and flu. So the vaccines target the current most common strain. Also your immune system stops bothering making antibodies for things you haven’t been exposed to, so you can get re-infected with some diseases after a time. The NHS invest in vaccinations because it’s cheaper than treating all the sick people. Even more so when you take most productivity into account. " **the vaccines target whats expected to be the current most common strain based on previous years | |||
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"The parts of (any) virus which your immune system recognises change. This is how you keep getting colds and flu. So the vaccines target the current most common strain. Also your immune system stops bothering making antibodies for things you haven’t been exposed to, so you can get re-infected with some diseases after a time. The NHS invest in vaccinations because it’s cheaper than treating all the sick people. Even more so when you take most productivity into account. " H1N1 bird flu is only 80% alike to covid but people who had it 14 years ago have an adaptive immune response to covid. Antibodies take about 4 months to decline in the body after infection. T cells and B cells (adaptive immunity) take 10 months to develop after infection and may last as long as your immune system is healthy. Women with adaptive immune mechanisms pass them to their children in the womb. All of this comes from respected scientific sources. | |||
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"I think it would be better to do something about those on here who practice bareback sex before we worry about a virus that is now no more than a common cold." 😂😂perfectly put | |||
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"The parts of (any) virus which your immune system recognises change. This is how you keep getting colds and flu. So the vaccines target the current most common strain. Also your immune system stops bothering making antibodies for things you haven’t been exposed to, so you can get re-infected with some diseases after a time. The NHS invest in vaccinations because it’s cheaper than treating all the sick people. Even more so when you take most productivity into account. H1N1 bird flu is only 80% alike to covid but people who had it 14 years ago have an adaptive immune response to covid. Antibodies take about 4 months to decline in the body after infection. T cells and B cells (adaptive immunity) take 10 months to develop after infection and may last as long as your immune system is healthy. Women with adaptive immune mechanisms pass them to their children in the womb. All of this comes from respected scientific sources. " Correct, most of our antibody system is inherited as is our natural immune system and it's ability to recognise and fight infections, some virus we have zero natural immunity and that's what happened with COVID. A Flu virus is quite different from a Coronavirus | |||
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"I think it would be better to do something about those on here who practice bareback sex before we worry about a virus that is now no more than a common cold." Having bareback sex is optional, breathing in someone's viral particles isn't really avoidable | |||
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"I think it would be better to do something about those on here who practice bareback sex before we worry about a virus that is now no more than a common cold. Having bareback sex is optional, breathing in someone's viral particles isn't really avoidable " The vaccine doesn't stop transmission If you're scared of life cower at home | |||
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"I think it would be better to do something about those on here who practice bareback sex before we worry about a virus that is now no more than a common cold. Having bareback sex is optional, breathing in someone's viral particles isn't really avoidable The vaccine doesn't stop transmission If you're scared of life cower at home " Just FYI there are multiple vaccines | |||
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"I think it would be better to do something about those on here who practice bareback sex before we worry about a virus that is now no more than a common cold. Having bareback sex is optional, breathing in someone's viral particles isn't really avoidable The vaccine doesn't stop transmission If you're scared of life cower at home " Ooh hah! | |||
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"The vaccine doesn't stop transmission " The idea is to reduce the number of people getting seriously ill. And if your immune system is keyed-up you stand a better chance of just fighting it off and maybe not even getting cold symptoms. I’m caring for elderly parents, so would like to minimise the chances of transmitting it to them or becoming ill myself and so I able to help them. They still talk about how awful it was for them when they got it. Nobody is forcing you to get vaccinated, do what’s right for you. As for bareback sex, that’s a false dichotomy and something I can easily control for myself. Some disease-riddled oik randomly coughing in my face is a different matter. | |||
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"The vaccine doesn't stop transmission The idea is to reduce the number of people getting seriously ill. And if your immune system is keyed-up you stand a better chance of just fighting it off and maybe not even getting cold symptoms. I’m caring for elderly parents, so would like to minimise the chances of transmitting it to them or becoming ill myself and so I able to help them. They still talk about how awful it was for them when they got it. Nobody is forcing you to get vaccinated, do what’s right for you. As for bareback sex, that’s a false dichotomy and something I can easily control for myself. Some disease-riddled oik randomly coughing in my face is a different matter. " Bareback coughing is indeed disgusting | |||
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"I think it would be better to do something about those on here who practice bareback sex before we worry about a virus that is now no more than a common cold. Having bareback sex is optional, breathing in someone's viral particles isn't really avoidable The vaccine doesn't stop transmission If you're scared of life cower at home " Scared of life lol Really | |||
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"I think it would be better to do something about those on here who practice bareback sex before we worry about a virus that is now no more than a common cold. Having bareback sex is optional, breathing in someone's viral particles isn't really avoidable The vaccine doesn't stop transmission If you're scared of life cower at home " yet it helps those at risk. Why are you worrying... if you are not vulnerable you won't be offered it anyway. Covid may not be any worse than a cold for some people, but for people like my daughter it can still be a serious illness . Same as flu .... Be glad your not vulnerable | |||
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"I think it would be better to do something about those on here who practice bareback sex before we worry about a virus that is now no more than a common cold. Having bareback sex is optional, breathing in someone's viral particles isn't really avoidable The vaccine doesn't stop transmission If you're scared of life cower at home yet it helps those at risk. Why are you worrying... if you are not vulnerable you won't be offered it anyway. Covid may not be any worse than a cold for some people, but for people like my daughter it can still be a serious illness . Same as flu .... Be glad your not vulnerable "
With the flippant comments that some insist on making, they ignore the reality that this disease is unlike their experience for many. We know that Covid can cause brain stem inflammation, potentially for over a year, as well as the very disabling Long Covid symptoms. It ravages the body very differently to a disease like the common cold. | |||
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"I think it would be better to do something about those on here who practice bareback sex before we worry about a virus that is now no more than a common cold. Having bareback sex is optional, breathing in someone's viral particles isn't really avoidable The vaccine doesn't stop transmission If you're scared of life cower at home yet it helps those at risk. Why are you worrying... if you are not vulnerable you won't be offered it anyway. Covid may not be any worse than a cold for some people, but for people like my daughter it can still be a serious illness . Same as flu .... Be glad your not vulnerable
With the flippant comments that some insist on making, they ignore the reality that this disease is unlike their experience for many. We know that Covid can cause brain stem inflammation, potentially for over a year, as well as the very disabling Long Covid symptoms. It ravages the body very differently to a disease like the common cold. "for me personally im not anti vax never have been and im very lucky in that im healthy and not vaccine dependant, ive always said if you feel like your body needs the extra help and you think the vax with help you perfectly fine, BUT ill never forgot how i were treated and the things i were called for basically me been lucky and healthy and not needing it, tin foil hat looney, anti vax nutter, youtube drs, granny killer lol no darling just fit and healthy 👌 | |||
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" BUT ill never forgot how i were treated and the things i were called for basically me been lucky and healthy and not needing it, tin foil hat looney, anti vax nutter, youtube drs, granny killer lol no darling just fit and healthy 👌" Were you also fit and healthy enough as a baby not to need measles, whooping cough, polio etc vaccinations ? | |||
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"Behave. Are people still getting Covid jabs? "People are doing what they think is best for them, but you do you petal. | |||
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" BUT ill never forgot how i were treated and the things i were called for basically me been lucky and healthy and not needing it, tin foil hat looney, anti vax nutter, youtube drs, granny killer lol no darling just fit and healthy 👌 Were you also fit and healthy enough as a baby not to need measles, whooping cough, polio etc vaccinations ?" thats a silly question isnt it | |||
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" BUT ill never forgot how i were treated and the things i were called for basically me been lucky and healthy and not needing it, tin foil hat looney, anti vax nutter, youtube drs, granny killer lol no darling just fit and healthy 👌 Were you also fit and healthy enough as a baby not to need measles, whooping cough, polio etc vaccinations ?thats a silly question isnt it " It is but some people like to try and belittle others with different opinions. | |||
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"Boosters for Covid and flu can now be booked for those eligible, via the NHS site. They are also available privately, via other providers, such as pharmacists. "Yep had both as eligible via my GP | |||
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"Mid to late Nov are the optimal time for flu and Covid shots I mostly agree, depending on what's happening with infection levels - as immunity wanes and having vaccination very early may mean that catching an infection on a late winter peak, may become more possible. Covid infections are up, based on the previous week - this may continue to climb and a winter peak may be somewhere off in the future. How do "they" know covid infections are up? Up on what? Presumably "infections" may also go down as well as up? im guessing people have got colds and bugs its the time of year if nobody knew so doing covid tests and suprise suprise numbers are now up 😂best stock up on loo roll There is a lot of people that a covid is still a risk to them.... Hospital admissions are rising slightly again..and it will get a little worse. Only those vulnerable to covid get offered the boosters now. I make sure I have my flu and covid boosters 4 weeks apart Cali Is there any reason why only those vulnerable to covid get boosters now? Whereas 2 years ago everybody was advised to get a booster every 6 months? Do you know why the advise and availability has changed? " It hasn't changed September or October for flu and COVID people who are vulnerable every year I've got COPD and other . | |||
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" BUT ill never forgot how i were treated and the things i were called for basically me been lucky and healthy and not needing it, tin foil hat looney, anti vax nutter, youtube drs, granny killer lol no darling just fit and healthy 👌 Were you also fit and healthy enough as a baby not to need measles, whooping cough, polio etc vaccinations ?thats a silly question isnt it It is but some people like to try and belittle others with different opinions. " Wow there's the pot calling the kettle black lol | |||
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" BUT ill never forgot how i were treated and the things i were called for basically me been lucky and healthy and not needing it, tin foil hat looney, anti vax nutter, youtube drs, granny killer lol no darling just fit and healthy 👌 Were you also fit and healthy enough as a baby not to need measles, whooping cough, polio etc vaccinations ?thats a silly question isnt it It is but some people like to try and belittle others with different opinions. Wow there's the pot calling the kettle black lol" if its good for the goose its good for the gander 😂 | |||
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" BUT ill never forgot how i were treated and the things i were called for basically me been lucky and healthy and not needing it, tin foil hat looney, anti vax nutter, youtube drs, granny killer lol no darling just fit and healthy 👌 Were you also fit and healthy enough as a baby not to need measles, whooping cough, polio etc vaccinations ?thats a silly question isnt it It is but some people like to try and belittle others with different opinions. Wow there's the pot calling the kettle black lolif its good for the goose its good for the gander 😂" That's not how it works The rules of the forum are clear | |||
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"I think the point is and it's something some people just don't get: For the majority of people COVID will feel like nothing more than a cold or heavy cold. Others it will feel like they have the flu ( anyone who's had flu will know the difference between a cold and the flu) But there's some people who will get COVID and it will absolutely floor them ,they could be fit and healthy but if you are vulnerable to illness chances are you are more likely to be severely affected by COVID. To the point of it being potentially fatal. So a vaccine is to hopefully reduce symptoms. It was never about stopping the spread because that's not what it does, washing hand's, mask's and isolating was the one that stopped the spread. Unless you have had a bad dose of COVID it's really difficult to explain how terrible it is, scary and debilitating. Yes people can choose not to get booster, but for them and everyone keep up with good hygiene practices and if you are ill stay away from elderly people and immune compromised. Please " Omg. A rational and common sense reply, at last. | |||
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"ai am surprised this is still happening, what Booster number are we on now?" Why , what's the issue?? The problem is that during the pandemic someone started throwing their toys out of the pram " you can't tell me what to do blah blah blah" And so it grew the anti establishment militia grew in numbers posting stuff designed to create bad feelings and destabilise society. The hard of thinking started YouTube channels watched by others easily manipulated and so it went on.... Meanwhile others done as they where told whilst politicians took the piss. As far as creating a division in society JOB done. So now we have people who are aggressively on one side or the other both claiming to know best. Who's right who's wrong?? Probably in many respects both as bad as each other. But fact is like the flu and the common cold COVID is here too stay and will be around long after we have gone. For many like myself flu jabs,covid jabs , pneumonia are essential due to a weakened immune system. Even a cold wipes me out for a few weeks, so if there's any chance of helping me fight it I'll take it. So these posts ridiculing people who are having boosters is not helping anyone. If you choose to get it that's your choice noone is forcing you. But people really need to grow up and get over themselves. It's here to stay deal with it. | |||
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"ai am surprised this is still happening, what Booster number are we on now? Why , what's the issue?? The problem is that during the pandemic someone started throwing their toys out of the pram " you can't tell me what to do blah blah blah" And so it grew the anti establishment militia grew in numbers posting stuff designed to create bad feelings and destabilise society. The hard of thinking started YouTube channels watched by others easily manipulated and so it went on.... Meanwhile others done as they where told whilst politicians took the piss. As far as creating a division in society JOB done. So now we have people who are aggressively on one side or the other both claiming to know best. Who's right who's wrong?? Probably in many respects both as bad as each other. But fact is like the flu and the common cold COVID is here too stay and will be around long after we have gone. For many like myself flu jabs,covid jabs , pneumonia are essential due to a weakened immune system. Even a cold wipes me out for a few weeks, so if there's any chance of helping me fight it I'll take it. So these posts ridiculing people who are having boosters is not helping anyone. If you choose to get it that's your choice noone is forcing you. But people really need to grow up and get over themselves. It's here to stay deal with it. " I didn't say it was a problem. I said I am surprised it is still happening. And asked what number booster are we on now? can't a man ask a simple question? | |||
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"ai am surprised this is still happening, what Booster number are we on now? Why , what's the issue?? The problem is that during the pandemic someone started throwing their toys out of the pram " you can't tell me what to do blah blah blah" And so it grew the anti establishment militia grew in numbers posting stuff designed to create bad feelings and destabilise society. The hard of thinking started YouTube channels watched by others easily manipulated and so it went on.... Meanwhile others done as they where told whilst politicians took the piss. As far as creating a division in society JOB done. So now we have people who are aggressively on one side or the other both claiming to know best. Who's right who's wrong?? Probably in many respects both as bad as each other. But fact is like the flu and the common cold COVID is here too stay and will be around long after we have gone. For many like myself flu jabs,covid jabs , pneumonia are essential due to a weakened immune system. Even a cold wipes me out for a few weeks, so if there's any chance of helping me fight it I'll take it. So these posts ridiculing people who are having boosters is not helping anyone. If you choose to get it that's your choice noone is forcing you. But people really need to grow up and get over themselves. It's here to stay deal with it. " fair enough post pretty much agree with you still a few sly digs in there and the "noone is forcing you" had me chuckling, not now they arent, but it weren't too long ago they were 😂 | |||
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"Behave. Are people still getting Covid jabs? "Not here, only did two jabs def not having any more | |||
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"Got the Covid and flue jab last year as usual but was ill for two weeks after it so I am not taking anymore jabs " I found having them separately helped me | |||
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"Got the Covid and flue jab last year as usual but was ill for two weeks after it so I am not taking anymore jabs " I was the same last year had them this year and no problems | |||
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"After all the people that i know have died from the clot shot or had effects .. I definitely ain't getting any " Your more likely to get a clot randomly or if you catch covid than from the vaccines. They discontinued one that was found to have a very small risk of one.. yet the contraceptive pill is a much higher risk All vaccines have a risk of side affects as do all medications... even paracetamol if you read the label can cause major issues but thankfully very rare. Loads of people haven't died from the vaccines... My daughter almost died from covid though. .as she listened to fearmongers on Facebook and didn't get her vaccine. She got covid and a pulmonary embolism from it | |||
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"After all the people that i know have died from the clot shot or had effects .. I definitely ain't getting any " You must know a very peculiar group of people for some odd reason, as the benefits outweigh, by a huge margin, any of the scare story effects touted on Facebook type groups, whilst the sources of them are laughing all the way to the bank | |||
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"After all the people that i know have died from the clot shot or had effects .. I definitely ain't getting any " So please how many have you known that have definitely died as a result of the vaccine? | |||
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"We personally hand on heart which isnt a nationwide study obvs we know of 2 people that died directly from the vaccine and nobody from covid both people quite fit and healthy and middle aged and both had the jabs for work i wouldnt of said they needed them for personal protection " Do you think personal experience that shapes people's view of vaccination. I probably know several hundred people that have been vaccinated. No one has died from it. Only one person I know had a reaction to it and she reacts with a lot of things including other vaccinations, she had it because there was a good chance she would die if she caught covid. I know at least 20 people that have died from covid including my cousin who died a few days before his 47th birthday. | |||
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"We personally hand on heart which isnt a nationwide study obvs we know of 2 people that died directly from the vaccine and nobody from covid both people quite fit and healthy and middle aged and both had the jabs for work i wouldnt of said they needed them for personal protection Do you think personal experience that shapes people's view of vaccination. I probably know several hundred people that have been vaccinated. No one has died from it. Only one person I know had a reaction to it and she reacts with a lot of things including other vaccinations, she had it because there was a good chance she would die if she caught covid. I know at least 20 people that have died from covid including my cousin who died a few days before his 47th birthday." it most certainly does hence why you're so pro vax and im leaning more towards anti thats how life works we base it on personal experiences hopefully not what someone tells us | |||
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"We personally hand on heart which isnt a nationwide study obvs we know of 2 people that died directly from the vaccine and nobody from covid both people quite fit and healthy and middle aged and both had the jabs for work i wouldnt of said they needed them for personal protection Do you think personal experience that shapes people's view of vaccination. I probably know several hundred people that have been vaccinated. No one has died from it. Only one person I know had a reaction to it and she reacts with a lot of things including other vaccinations, she had it because there was a good chance she would die if she caught covid. I know at least 20 people that have died from covid including my cousin who died a few days before his 47th birthday.it most certainly does hence why you're so pro vax and im leaning more towards anti thats how life works we base it on personal experiences hopefully not what someone tells us " It was genuine question/ statement. Am a scientist by trade so I tend us data and evidence rather than personal experience. You get way more data points then and more likely to get a true sample than relying on personal experience. | |||
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"Just my experience from people I know personally. Dozens have had the jab with no issues but 2 I know had severe problems after it, one guy I worked with had a brain swell and a young lad who is only 37 has had alopecia from it. He was told last week by his doc that it's rare but has been reported all over the world as a Pfizer side affect, unfortunately he was told his hair will probably never grow back, not a eye lash or eyebrow on his body. " All sort of strange things can make that happen too. There is footballer called Will Smallbone who broke his leg and he lost all his hair permanently. | |||
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