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"Seems it’s everywhere just now, one of my mates has it. Parents can’t get latest jab, which seems a bit shit. " A new variant.... Really.... Interesting.... & No Jabs for your parents....  | |||
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" Parents can’t get latest jab, which seems a bit shit. " Are your parents under 65 ? | |||
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"Well at least no one has had the flu in the UK since covid . " Good Point....  | |||
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"Well at least no one has had the flu in the UK since covid . " Says who? | |||
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"Seems it’s everywhere just now, one of my mates has it. Parents can’t get latest jab, which seems a bit shit. " If they're eligible, it's worth doing a search for venues that will provide it, as appointment availability varies a lot. Otherwise, flu vaccination is a great move, in preparation for the winter flu season. It's more widely available too. | |||
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"Well at least no one has had the flu in the UK since covid . " ...even though the winter 22/23 flu season was recorded as the worst for a decade with thousands in hospital. | |||
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"Seems it’s everywhere just now, one of my mates has it. Parents can’t get latest jab, which seems a bit shit. A new variant.... Really.... Interesting.... & No Jabs for your parents.... "He didn't say new variant but wave. Pirola isn't causing the concern Omicron did. | |||
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"Well at least no one has had the flu in the UK since covid . Says who?" Facetube facts | |||
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"Well at least no one has had the flu in the UK since covid . Says who? Facetube facts" and Instasham | |||
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"Seems it’s everywhere just now, one of my mates has it. Parents can’t get latest jab, which seems a bit shit. A new variant.... Really.... Interesting.... & No Jabs for your parents.... "We're all gonna die | |||
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"Well at least no one has had the flu in the UK since covid . ...even though the winter 22/23 flu season was recorded as the worst for a decade with thousands in hospital. " The UK Health Security Agency says that last winter just over four thousand more people died of flu than Covid | |||
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"Seems it’s everywhere just now, one of my mates has it. Parents can’t get latest jab, which seems a bit shit. A new variant.... Really.... Interesting.... & No Jabs for your parents....
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"You're all suffering from flu and a weakened immune system, quit poking yourselves!" The medical education in this one is strong. Not. | |||
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"Seems it’s everywhere just now, one of my mates has it. Parents can’t get latest jab, which seems a bit shit. " I have never had it. | |||
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"I thought id take a look at the death figures for the UK back at the year 2020. According to the office Of National Statistics in September 2020, the so called year 1 of Covid 36,707 people passed away in England and Wales (this was a perfectly normal figure for the time of year, no excess deaths compared to previous years despite an apparently deadly disease being present forcing everyone to wear a piece of cloth over their face and stand 2 metres apart), in september this year, with no pandemic whatsoever a whopping 49,327 have people passed away, thats an extra 12, 620 excess deaths in just one month! No wonder ONS have announced they are no longer supplying monthly data! Google ONS all cause deaths for september 2020 and the weekly deaths for september 2023. " No pandemic BUT covid has and will remain with us. As for deaths stats, it is likely (I haven't looked into this) that covid on the certificate was for auditing purposes. The audit should have three factors: 1. Was covid present at death? 2. Was covid known to be a contributing factor in the death? 3. Was death caused by covid. A format for any pandemic. Without this information, the stats will be accused of being massaged. The pandemic is over and so I assume death certs, will go back to how they were. | |||
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"I thought id take a look at the death figures for the UK back at the year 2020. According to the office Of National Statistics in September 2020, the so called year 1 of Covid 36,707 people passed away in England and Wales (this was a perfectly normal figure for the time of year, no excess deaths compared to previous years despite an apparently deadly disease being present forcing everyone to wear a piece of cloth over their face and stand 2 metres apart), in september this year, with no pandemic whatsoever a whopping 49,327 have people passed away, thats an extra 12, 620 excess deaths in just one month! No wonder ONS have announced they are no longer supplying monthly data! Google ONS all cause deaths for september 2020 and the weekly deaths for september 2023. No pandemic BUT covid has and will remain with us. As for deaths stats, it is likely (I haven't looked into this) that covid on the certificate was for auditing purposes. The audit should have three factors: 1. Was covid present at death? 2. Was covid known to be a contributing factor in the death? 3. Was death caused by covid. A format for any pandemic. Without this information, the stats will be accused of being massaged. The pandemic is over and so I assume death certs, will go back to how they were." My opinion | |||
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"I thought id take a look at the death figures for the UK back at the year 2020. According to the office Of National Statistics in September 2020, the so called year 1 of Covid 36,707 people passed away in England and Wales (this was a perfectly normal figure for the time of year, no excess deaths compared to previous years despite an apparently deadly disease being present forcing everyone to wear a piece of cloth over their face and stand 2 metres apart), in september this year, with no pandemic whatsoever a whopping 49,327 have people passed away, thats an extra 12, 620 excess deaths in just one month! No wonder ONS have announced they are no longer supplying monthly data! Google ONS all cause deaths for september 2020 and the weekly deaths for september 2023. " Any reason you picked those months ? Instead say comparing April 2020 to April 2023? In September 2020 the country was in lockdown. Lockdowns while a pain in the butt do reduce deaths,including deaths from things like flu, road accidents, homicide and yes covid. | |||
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"Seems it’s everywhere just now, one of my mates has it. Parents can’t get latest jab, which seems a bit shit. I have never had it." Nether have we, but our son who's fitter than a butchers dog had it twice and a good friend died if it. Go figure | |||
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"Vax experts do their research in their laboratory and libraries: where hygiene and critical thought is important Anti vaxxers do their research on their lavatories and smartphone: where the snake oil brigade peddle their filthy lies, only to leave the throne of ignorance without washing their hands. " None of my family are vaccinated, seen a fella we know now blind from having a stroke caused by a Pfizer jab & one other fella (seems mostly men in 30/40) had a bad reaction & went in hospital & we don't know what happened to him. It's everyone's choice. | |||
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"Are your parents under 65 ?" They’re over 8 and in high risk groups. Had flu jabs. No Covid jabs available near them and they have mobility issues. All our local medical centres are now requiring masks. | |||
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"Well at least no one has had the flu in the UK since covid . " | |||
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"Well at least no one has had the flu in the UK since covid . "If only that was true. Flu can kill up to 25000 people a year in the UK. Whilst flu was low during lockdown, lockdown and hygiene measures reduce all respiratory viruses not just covid, since we have reopened society flu has come back with a bang and has sadly killed many people. | |||
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"We've managed to avoid it while at home, but caught it while in holiday in PDI. It really is everywhere." Could have caught it on the plane and it only became apparent on holiday. | |||
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"We've managed to avoid it while at home, but caught it while in holiday in PDI. It really is everywhere." Sunday Snap... Perfectly ok here in GC until the UK 'fortnight' ... Been ill since Sunday and pissed off beyond belief tbh Same thing happened last year too... Next year will be avoiding like the plague.. Sorry just venting | |||
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"We've managed to avoid it while at home, but caught it while in holiday in PDI. It really is everywhere. Sunday Snap... Perfectly ok here in GC until the UK 'fortnight' ... Been ill since Sunday and pissed off beyond belief tbh Same thing happened last year too... Next year will be avoiding like the plague.. Sorry just venting " I'm not avoiding winter germs can hot anyone anywhere | |||
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"We've managed to avoid it while at home, but caught it while in holiday in PDI. It really is everywhere. Sunday Snap... Perfectly ok here in GC until the UK 'fortnight' ... Been ill since Sunday and pissed off beyond belief tbh Same thing happened last year too... Next year will be avoiding like the plague.. Sorry just venting " Are they offering boosters there? | |||
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"Well at least no one has had the flu in the UK since covid .
If only that was true. Flu can kill up to 25000 people a year in the UK. Whilst flu was low during lockdown, lockdown and hygiene measures reduce all respiratory viruses not just covid, since we have reopened society flu has come back with a bang and has sadly killed many people." never had a lockdown for a particularly bad flu season,or "expert" Ferguson predicting half a million (the only number he knows,even cattle in foot and mouth outbreaks, disastrously wrong,no surprise)will die,or a fanatical flu vaccine campaign. | |||
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"Well at least no one has had the flu in the UK since covid . " Around 90 people were admitted to hospital with The Flu in the first week of October, but the "Flu Season" hasn't started yet. | |||
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"Well at least no one has had the flu in the UK since covid .
If only that was true. Flu can kill up to 25000 people a year in the UK. Whilst flu was low during lockdown, lockdown and hygiene measures reduce all respiratory viruses not just covid, since we have reopened society flu has come back with a bang and has sadly killed many people.
never had a lockdown for a particularly bad flu season,or "expert" Ferguson predicting half a million (the only number he knows,even cattle in foot and mouth outbreaks, disastrously wrong,no surprise)will die,or a fanatical flu vaccine campaign."I thought there had been a Flu vaccine for decades now, with most over 65's being vaccinated annually and children under 10 being vaccinated annually. The introduction of the Flu vaccines in the UK reduced the annual number of deaths attributed to Flu by about 50%. Cal | |||
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"Well at least no one has had the flu in the UK since covid . Around 90 people were admitted to hospital with The Flu in the first week of October, but the "Flu Season" hasn't started yet." Naughty virus not playing by the rules. | |||
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"Well at least no one has had the flu in the UK since covid . Around 90 people were admitted to hospital with The Flu in the first week of October, but the "Flu Season" hasn't started yet. Naughty virus not playing by the rules." Those covid virus's have been crafty all along right from the start. They knew what time it was. And also how many people that you was with | |||
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"Well at least no one has had the flu in the UK since covid . Didnt you know.Every kind of viral infection is gone now.If you sneeze twice in less than one minute,thats Covid. " | |||
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"Well at least no one has had the flu in the UK since covid . " I have had flu twice since covid started... yes, diagnosed flu, well diagnosed based on a GP telling me I had flu | |||
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"Well at least no one has had the flu in the UK since covid .
If only that was true. Flu can kill up to 25000 people a year in the UK. Whilst flu was low during lockdown, lockdown and hygiene measures reduce all respiratory viruses not just covid, since we have reopened society flu has come back with a bang and has sadly killed many people.
never had a lockdown for a particularly bad flu season,or "expert" Ferguson predicting half a million (the only number he knows,even cattle in foot and mouth outbreaks, disastrously wrong,no surprise)will die,or a fanatical flu vaccine campaign."And because of lockdowns and vaccines only just over 230000 ... Two hundred and thirty thousand died of COVID in the UK Not really funny ? Is it ? | |||
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"I thought id take a look at the death figures for the UK back at the year 2020. According to the office Of National Statistics in September 2020, the so called year 1 of Covid 36,707 people passed away in England and Wales (this was a perfectly normal figure for the time of year, no excess deaths compared to previous years despite an apparently deadly disease being present forcing everyone to wear a piece of cloth over their face and stand 2 metres apart), in september this year, with no pandemic whatsoever a whopping 49,327 have people passed away, thats an extra 12, 620 excess deaths in just one month! No wonder ONS have announced they are no longer supplying monthly data! Google ONS all cause deaths for september 2020 and the weekly deaths for september 2023. " You don't calculate the base rate from a single year | |||
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"Well at least no one has had the flu in the UK since covid .
If only that was true. Flu can kill up to 25000 people a year in the UK. Whilst flu was low during lockdown, lockdown and hygiene measures reduce all respiratory viruses not just covid, since we have reopened society flu has come back with a bang and has sadly killed many people.
never had a lockdown for a particularly bad flu season,or "expert" Ferguson predicting half a million (the only number he knows,even cattle in foot and mouth outbreaks, disastrously wrong,no surprise)will die,or a fanatical flu vaccine campaign."Trouble is you are looking at what happened with benefit of hindsight, at the time it wasn't known what the mortality rate would be. | |||
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"Breaks my heart the amount of brain dead people in here that are misinformed that lined up for the ??& are still tryna keep a scam narrative alive. The ?? is killing people, ravaging them with cancer & destroying peoples hearts. Take your heads out the papers & tele ffs ??" Bless. I do hope that comes across as patronising  | |||
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Turn your Tv off. It works wonders.
Ps. It's flu season
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"I thought id take a look at the death figures for the UK back at the year 2020. According to the office Of National Statistics in September 2020, the so called year 1 of Covid 36,707 people passed away in England and Wales (this was a perfectly normal figure for the time of year, no excess deaths compared to previous years despite an apparently deadly disease being present forcing everyone to wear a piece of cloth over their face and stand 2 metres apart), in september this year, with no pandemic whatsoever a whopping 49,327 have people passed away, thats an extra 12, 620 excess deaths in just one month! No wonder ONS have announced they are no longer supplying monthly data! Google ONS all cause deaths for september 2020 and the weekly deaths for september 2023. " Tell that to the care home staff that often lost half the people living in them. Go and read some peer reviewed scientific data other than 'research' found online. | |||
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"I must just be lucky or have a proper immune system. "I’m caring for some frail, elderly relatives. I don’t want to take something to their house which could kill them. They’re very keen on protecting themselves, and see the vaccines as a means to do so. One of my friends has been ill for a week with confirmed Covid. | |||
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"You can go to any walk in pharmacy" This is not the case around here. I’ve managed to book via 119, but local pharmacies had no stock of c19. Flu was available as a walk in. | |||
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"Well at least no one has had the flu in the UK since covid . Says who?" ==================== Keith from the warehouse and Karen in accounts. | |||
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"Well at least no one has had the flu in the UK since covid . " not true. I've had the flu and so have several of my friends. I did 8 covid tests, all negative Don't kid yourself that the flu has gone.there is also a nasty chest infection doing the rounds. The GP told me this one can last up to 10 weeks, | |||
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Last covid I had was a shocker | |||
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"Well at least no one has had the flu in the UK since covid . not true. I've had the flu and so have several of my friends. I did 8 covid tests, all negative Don't kid yourself that the flu has gone.there is also a nasty chest infection doing the rounds. The GP told me this one can last up to 10 weeks, " I took the post to be sarcasm. Of course flu is still around. | |||
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"Anyone feel like they've had it but not shown up on tests? Constant headaches fatigue ?? " I would assume you had a different viral infection. | |||
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"We're all gonna die " This is the truest fact in the whole wide world | |||
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"I've never had a vaccine and I'm great "I'm sure you don't include childhood vaccines. | |||
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"The jabbed are dropping like flies now." Would you like to provide proof of that? And NOT in my inbox. | |||
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"The jabbed are dropping like flies now." I know. I was in Morrisons and at least 30 pensioners and a young fella in tight fitting pants dropped down dead at the checkout. What more evidence do you need? I saw it all with my good eye, honest. | |||
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"The jabbed are dropping like flies now. I know. I was in Morrisons and at least 30 pensioners and a young fella in tight fitting pants dropped down dead at the checkout. What more evidence do you need? I saw it all with my good eye, honest. "Note to self: avoid Morrisons  | |||
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"Anyone feel like they've had it but not shown up on tests? Constant headaches fatigue ?? " Dehydration? Vitamin deficiency? Flu? Hormonal imbalance? Mine turned out to be renal colic  | |||
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"The jabbed are dropping like flies now." The unvaccinated have sadly been dropping in greater volumes, despite those who are eligible for vaccines being those with greater vulnerabilities | |||
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"I remember the good old days when people used to catch colds, but I guess they didn’t have a jab for that "Not sure what you are trying to say about covid as this thread is about that. | |||
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"Been testing +ve since 15OCT "Why do you keep testing yourself ? | |||
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"Had a head cold last week felt rubbish but no covid. Take vitamin D to help in the winter months " Studies have shown to combine vit K2 with vit D for better effect and absorption. | |||
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"Had a head cold last week felt rubbish but no covid. Take vitamin D to help in the winter months Studies have shown to combine vit K2 with vit D for better effect and absorption. " Hi Please post a link to this story - cheers in advance | |||
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"Well at least no one has had the flu in the UK since covid .
If only that was true. Flu can kill up to 25000 people a year in the UK. Whilst flu was low during lockdown, lockdown and hygiene measures reduce all respiratory viruses not just covid, since we have reopened society flu has come back with a bang and has sadly killed many people.
never had a lockdown for a particularly bad flu season,or "expert" Ferguson predicting half a million (the only number he knows,even cattle in foot and mouth outbreaks, disastrously wrong,no surprise)will die,or a fanatical flu vaccine campaign."We have had a flu vaccination drive every winter for years, we still lose around 25,000 people a year to it every year. However Flu and covid are different if you read up on it. There is nearly a quarter of a million dead up to now, can you imagine if we hadn't tried to surpress the virus how many there would have been. The figure he quoted may have been too low, who knows I know there were cock ups along the way but this was a pandemic and I am not sure why people seem to dismiss trying to save others from dying. | |||
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"I remember the good old days when people used to catch colds, but I guess they didn’t have a jab for that
Not sure what you are trying to say about covid as this thread is about that."I am guessing he is trying to say Covid is just a cold. I bet those relatives of people who died from Covid will feel relieved now knowing it was only a cold | |||
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"Had a head cold last week felt rubbish but no covid. Take vitamin D to help in the winter months Studies have shown to combine vit K2 with vit D for better effect and absorption. " I read that biased research (biased because it was sponsored by a producer of vit k2), however, even they admit research is required to see if k2 and D improve clinical outcomes of Covid. It's easy to Google food that has k2 within, rather than relying on a company that wants to increase its sales. Vit D deficiency is due to lack of sunshine in the winter months. There isn't a vit D supplier who needs to promote their product as evidence does it anyway. | |||
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"Well at least no one has had the flu in the UK since covid . " | |||
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"Breaks my heart the amount of brain dead people in here that are misinformed that lined up for the ??& are still tryna keep a scam narrative alive. The ?? is killing people, ravaging them with cancer & destroying peoples hearts. Take your heads out the papers & tele ffs ??" Who can argue against that Of course you'd have to be able to decipher it to be able to argue against it Anti-vaxxers, these are your people | |||
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"Well at least no one has had the flu in the UK since covid . " Yeah amazing what happened to the flu … if u didn’t know better u might smell BS | |||
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"Had a head cold last week felt rubbish but no covid. Take vitamin D to help in the winter months Studies have shown to combine vit K2 with vit D for better effect and absorption. I read that biased research (biased because it was sponsored by a producer of vit k2), however, even they admit research is required to see if k2 and D improve clinical outcomes of Covid. It's easy to Google food that has k2 within, rather than relying on a company that wants to increase its sales. Vit D deficiency is due to lack of sunshine in the winter months. There isn't a vit D supplier who needs to promote their product as evidence does it anyway." Almost all research is biased as well as the WHO and other bodies as its all predominantly funded by "Big Pharma" | |||
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"Why are posts like this allowed? Is the bbc running this site ffs" What is wrong with a virus post in the virus forum? | |||
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"Had a head cold last week felt rubbish but no covid. Take vitamin D to help in the winter months Studies have shown to combine vit K2 with vit D for better effect and absorption. I read that biased research (biased because it was sponsored by a producer of vit k2), however, even they admit research is required to see if k2 and D improve clinical outcomes of Covid. It's easy to Google food that has k2 within, rather than relying on a company that wants to increase its sales. Vit D deficiency is due to lack of sunshine in the winter months. There isn't a vit D supplier who needs to promote their product as evidence does it anyway. Almost all research is biased as well as the WHO and other bodies as its all predominantly funded by "Big Pharma"" Have to disagree. However, one has to critique research for researcher bias but that is different to almost all being funded by big pharma. | |||
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"Had a head cold last week felt rubbish but no covid. Take vitamin D to help in the winter months Studies have shown to combine vit K2 with vit D for better effect and absorption. I read that biased research (biased because it was sponsored by a producer of vit k2), however, even they admit research is required to see if k2 and D improve clinical outcomes of Covid. It's easy to Google food that has k2 within, rather than relying on a company that wants to increase its sales. Vit D deficiency is due to lack of sunshine in the winter months. There isn't a vit D supplier who needs to promote their product as evidence does it anyway. Almost all research is biased as well as the WHO and other bodies as its all predominantly funded by "Big Pharma" Have to disagree. However, one has to critique research for researcher bias but that is different to almost all being funded by big pharma." If the reseacher is biased by funding or not there is an inate bias on which research is being funded and what isn't. That bias is towards what will be profitable and not always towards proveing or disproveing what may be cheap and effective for improving national heath. | |||
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"Had a head cold last week felt rubbish but no covid. Take vitamin D to help in the winter months Studies have shown to combine vit K2 with vit D for better effect and absorption. I read that biased research (biased because it was sponsored by a producer of vit k2), however, even they admit research is required to see if k2 and D improve clinical outcomes of Covid. It's easy to Google food that has k2 within, rather than relying on a company that wants to increase its sales. Vit D deficiency is due to lack of sunshine in the winter months. There isn't a vit D supplier who needs to promote their product as evidence does it anyway. Almost all research is biased as well as the WHO and other bodies as its all predominantly funded by "Big Pharma" Have to disagree. However, one has to critique research for researcher bias but that is different to almost all being funded by big pharma. If the reseacher is biased by funding or not there is an inate bias on which research is being funded and what isn't. That bias is towards what will be profitable and not always towards proveing or disproveing what may be cheap and effective for improving national heath." I spent three years critiquing health research at university... Thanks | |||
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"You're all suffering from flu and a weakened immune system, quit poking yourselves!" Amen, wouldn't have a jab near me when the government need to bribe people to get something it's not all what it seems | |||
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"Flu has killed far more people than covid and will carry on doing do, 2 million worldwide die from flu every year yet no lock downs masks or standing 2 metres apart to combat it...why? Covid was cleverly used as a control thing by governments yet was the least deadly pandemic of all time unlike big killers like the flu. Flu and covid are similar flu virus which naturally mutate and either get stronger or weaker, nothing was done or put in place for swine flu avian flu and half a dozen other similar flu viruses unlike covid again...why. The Spanish flu wiped out 30 million in a couple of years and was only ever topped by the plague (another flu virus) yet no measures were put in place after even though the flu is one of our most lethal killers. No one believed the great fire of London started in a Bakery and amazingly it was the slums that burnt down where a new plague virus had started, for years the then government wanted that land for rebuilding...politics and pandemics work when it's convenient. " Where do I start? 1. Only when we get a novel flu virus will the flu cause a lockdown. The govt had supposedly done some prep for the next pandemic thinking it would be thus. 2. The Corona virus pandemic, its fatality percentage was not known at the beginning (hindsight is shit reasoning for wondering why certain strategies were taken when fatality hovered around 1%), and even with such a low %, with high exposure and no immunity, models predicted large numbers of death. They weren't wrong. It was always a number's game, never percentage. 3. Flu is a flu virus, covid is a Corona virus. 4. You mention swine and avian flu - they never reached pandemic proportions. 5. The plague was not a flu virus. It wasn't any type of virus, it was a bacterium. | |||
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"Flu has killed far more people than covid and will carry on doing do, 2 million worldwide die from flu every year yet no lock downs masks or standing 2 metres apart to combat it...why? Covid was cleverly used as a control thing by governments yet was the least deadly pandemic of all time unlike big killers like the flu. Flu and covid are similar flu virus which naturally mutate and either get stronger or weaker, nothing was done or put in place for swine flu avian flu and half a dozen other similar flu viruses unlike covid again...why. The Spanish flu wiped out 30 million in a couple of years and was only ever topped by the plague (another flu virus) yet no measures were put in place after even though the flu is one of our most lethal killers. No one believed the great fire of London started in a Bakery and amazingly it was the slums that burnt down where a new plague virus had started, for years the then government wanted that land for rebuilding...politics and pandemics work when it's convenient. " I'm guessing that fact checking isn't something that you're especially fond of 
Covid is a type of coronavirus, which we've known since the first week of 2020 . Totally unrelated to any of the varied types of flu viruses.
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"Flu has killed far more people than covid and will carry on doing do, 2 million worldwide die from flu every year yet no lock downs masks or standing 2 metres apart to combat it...why? Covid was cleverly used as a control thing by governments yet was the least deadly pandemic of all time unlike big killers like the flu. Flu and covid are similar flu virus which naturally mutate and either get stronger or weaker, nothing was done or put in place for swine flu avian flu and half a dozen other similar flu viruses unlike covid again...why. The Spanish flu wiped out 30 million in a couple of years and was only ever topped by the plague (another flu virus) yet no measures were put in place after even though the flu is one of our most lethal killers. No one believed the great fire of London started in a Bakery and amazingly it was the slums that burnt down where a new plague virus had started, for years the then government wanted that land for rebuilding...politics and pandemics work when it's convenient. Where do I start? 1. Only when we get a novel flu virus will the flu cause a lockdown. The govt had supposedly done some prep for the next pandemic thinking it would be thus. 2. The Corona virus pandemic, its fatality percentage was not known at the beginning (hindsight is shit reasoning for wondering why certain strategies were taken when fatality hovered around 1%), and even with such a low %, with high exposure and no immunity, models predicted large numbers of death. They weren't wrong. It was always a number's game, never percentage. 3. Flu is a flu virus, covid is a Corona virus. 4. You mention swine and avian flu - they never reached pandemic proportions. 5. The plague was not a flu virus. It wasn't any type of virus, it was a bacterium. "
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"Flu has killed far more people than covid and will carry on doing do, 2 million worldwide die from flu every year yet no lock downs masks or standing 2 metres apart to combat it...why? Covid was cleverly used as a control thing by governments yet was the least deadly pandemic of all time unlike big killers like the flu. Flu and covid are similar flu virus which naturally mutate and either get stronger or weaker, nothing was done or put in place for swine flu avian flu and half a dozen other similar flu viruses unlike covid again...why. The Spanish flu wiped out 30 million in a couple of years and was only ever topped by the plague (another flu virus) yet no measures were put in place after even though the flu is one of our most lethal killers. No one believed the great fire of London started in a Bakery and amazingly it was the slums that burnt down where a new plague virus had started, for years the then government wanted that land for rebuilding...politics and pandemics work when it's convenient. Where do I start? 1. Only when we get a novel flu virus will the flu cause a lockdown. The govt had supposedly done some prep for the next pandemic thinking it would be thus. 2. The Corona virus pandemic, its fatality percentage was not known at the beginning (hindsight is shit reasoning for wondering why certain strategies were taken when fatality hovered around 1%), and even with such a low %, with high exposure and no immunity, models predicted large numbers of death. They weren't wrong. It was always a number's game, never percentage. 3. Flu is a flu virus, covid is a Corona virus. 4. You mention swine and avian flu - they never reached pandemic proportions. 5. The plague was not a flu virus. It wasn't any type of virus, it was a bacterium.
It's shocking that there's such ignorance, especially years from the start of the pandemic "Indeed. | |||
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"They used to call it a cold. People used to get colds. Sometimes it made you feel like shit, sometimes not. Don't be fooled. " The plague? | |||
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"Dr meryl nass WHO pandemic treaty to remove human rights. Type that into YouTube might open a few snowflakes eyes to the lovely bribes they took to get a jab " It's on YT? I'm on my way! Snowflakes, yay it's beginning to look a lot like Christmas | |||
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"People need to hope it stays around, it’s done more to save lives than anything else in history… if you don’t understand what I am talking about, then keep your criticism to your self, you will only reveal a little you understand… " ...HOW little you understand... Happy to help | |||
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"People need to hope it stays around, it’s done more to save lives than anything else in history… if you don’t understand what I am talking about, then keep your criticism to your self, you will only reveal a little you understand… " How can anyone understand what you haven't stated... I'm puzzled. You must be implying something but I'm still puzzled  . | |||
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"I remember the good old days when people used to catch colds, but I guess they didn’t have a jab for that
Not sure what you are trying to say about covid as this thread is about that."Well if you knew anything about the PCR tests which look for strains of coronavirus (of which there are 26 in the uk) and one of which is the common cold, you might have an inkling as to what I’m getting at… | |||
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"I remember the good old days when people used to catch colds, but I guess they didn’t have a jab for that
Not sure what you are trying to say about covid as this thread is about that.
Well if you knew anything about the PCR tests which look for strains of coronavirus (of which there are 26 in the uk) and one of which is the common cold, you might have an inkling as to what I’m getting at… "The PCR can and does tell the difference between covid 19 and the common cold,even if it is a coronavirus but most common cold isn't. So still not sure what you are getting at? | |||
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"I remember the good old days when people used to catch colds, but I guess they didn’t have a jab for that
Not sure what you are trying to say about covid as this thread is about that.
Well if you knew anything about the PCR tests which look for strains of coronavirus (of which there are 26 in the uk) and one of which is the common cold, you might have an inkling as to what I’m getting at… ""Covid-19 diagnostic tests are not perfect, but they won’t misdiagnose other coronaviruses as the virus which causes Covid-19." I don't know how reliable the Full Fact website is, but I've quoted them. It states a Facebook post had made the same claim as you | |||
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"I remember the good old days when people used to catch colds, but I guess they didn’t have a jab for that
Not sure what you are trying to say about covid as this thread is about that.
Well if you knew anything about the PCR tests which look for strains of coronavirus (of which there are 26 in the uk) and one of which is the common cold, you might have an inkling as to what I’m getting at… "You're not aware of the specificity of the tests? | |||
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"The jabbed are dropping like flies now. Would you like to provide proof of that? And NOT in my inbox." Try the ONS or every Offical Government site from around the world.. Even the WHO has published data on non Covid excess deaths.. But hey I guess they are all wrong eh? | |||
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"The jabbed are dropping like flies now. Would you like to provide proof of that? And NOT in my inbox. Try the ONS or every Offical Government site from around the world.. Even the WHO has published data on non Covid excess deaths.. But hey I guess they are all wrong eh?" You carry on inferring my question is more than a question | |||
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"Well at least no one has had the flu in the UK since covid . " What a load of bullshit! | |||
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"The jabbed are dropping like flies now. Would you like to provide proof of that? And NOT in my inbox. Try the ONS or every Offical Government site from around the world.. Even the WHO has published data on non Covid excess deaths.. But hey I guess they are all wrong eh?" No doubt a Ben houchen/Jacob young/steve turner fan! | |||
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"The jabbed are dropping like flies now. Would you like to provide proof of that? And NOT in my inbox. Try the ONS or every Offical Government site from around the world.. Even the WHO has published data on non Covid excess deaths.. But hey I guess they are all wrong eh? No doubt a Ben houchen/Jacob young/steve turner fan!" And why would you say that? | |||
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"The jabbed are dropping like flies now. Would you like to provide proof of that? And NOT in my inbox. Try the ONS or every Offical Government site from around the world.. Even the WHO has published data on non Covid excess deaths.. But hey I guess they are all wrong eh? No doubt a Ben houchen/Jacob young/steve turner fan! And why would you say that?" Anecdotal evidence | |||
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"The jabbed are dropping like flies now. Would you like to provide proof of that? And NOT in my inbox. Try the ONS or every Offical Government site from around the world.. Even the WHO has published data on non Covid excess deaths.. But hey I guess they are all wrong eh? No doubt a Ben houchen/Jacob young/steve turner fan! And why would you say that? Anecdotal evidence "Oh really? I'd suggest getting checked out,seeing things that really aren't there could be a sign of something serious. | |||
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"The jabbed are dropping like flies now. Would you like to provide proof of that? And NOT in my inbox. Try the ONS or every Offical Government site from around the world.. Even the WHO has published data on non Covid excess deaths.. But hey I guess they are all wrong eh? No doubt a Ben houchen/Jacob young/steve turner fan! And why would you say that? Anecdotal evidence
Oh really?
I'd suggest getting checked out,seeing things that really aren't there could be a sign of something serious. "Touché but we thought your appreciate it being a cherry picker | |||
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"The jabbed are dropping like flies now. Would you like to provide proof of that? And NOT in my inbox. Try the ONS or every Offical Government site from around the world.. Even the WHO has published data on non Covid excess deaths.. But hey I guess they are all wrong eh? No doubt a Ben houchen/Jacob young/steve turner fan! And why would you say that? Anecdotal evidence
Oh really?
I'd suggest getting checked out,seeing things that really aren't there could be a sign of something serious.
Touché but we thought your appreciate it being a cherry picker "So you're insinuating there isn't huge numbers of non Covid excess deaths? | |||
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"The jabbed are dropping like flies now. Would you like to provide proof of that? And NOT in my inbox. Try the ONS or every Offical Government site from around the world.. Even the WHO has published data on non Covid excess deaths.. But hey I guess they are all wrong eh? No doubt a Ben houchen/Jacob young/steve turner fan! And why would you say that? Anecdotal evidence
Oh really?
I'd suggest getting checked out,seeing things that really aren't there could be a sign of something serious.
Touché but we thought your appreciate it being a cherry picker
So you're insinuating there isn't huge numbers of non Covid excess deaths?"Patients are no longer routinely tested for covid and unless specific requested autopsies do not asses for Covid. So there is an easy argument that these non Covid deaths may actually be Covid deaths. As I say cherry picking | |||
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"The jabbed are dropping like flies now. Would you like to provide proof of that? And NOT in my inbox. Try the ONS or every Offical Government site from around the world.. Even the WHO has published data on non Covid excess deaths.. But hey I guess they are all wrong eh? No doubt a Ben houchen/Jacob young/steve turner fan! And why would you say that? Anecdotal evidence
Oh really?
I'd suggest getting checked out,seeing things that really aren't there could be a sign of something serious.
Touché but we thought your appreciate it being a cherry picker
So you're insinuating there isn't huge numbers of non Covid excess deaths?
Patients are no longer routinely tested for covid and unless specific requested autopsies do not asses for Covid. So there is an easy argument that these non Covid deaths may actually be Covid deaths. As I say cherry picking "What are you actually going on about?
Nearly every developed Nation around the world are seeing significant numbers on 'non' Covid related excess deaths.As I've pointed out on another thread, the fact that this isn't being discussed by the Governments,Media and health authorities should be a concern.
But as always on this forum paranoia sets in with many of the posters and they start to think any kind of discussion must be in the form of 'anti-vax', it isn't ! | |||
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"The jabbed are dropping like flies now. Would you like to provide proof of that? And NOT in my inbox. Try the ONS or every Offical Government site from around the world.. Even the WHO has published data on non Covid excess deaths.. But hey I guess they are all wrong eh? No doubt a Ben houchen/Jacob young/steve turner fan! And why would you say that? Anecdotal evidence
Oh really?
I'd suggest getting checked out,seeing things that really aren't there could be a sign of something serious.
Touché but we thought your appreciate it being a cherry picker
So you're insinuating there isn't huge numbers of non Covid excess deaths?
Patients are no longer routinely tested for covid and unless specific requested autopsies do not asses for Covid. So there is an easy argument that these non Covid deaths may actually be Covid deaths. As I say cherry picking
What are you actually going on about?
Nearly every developed Nation around the world are seeing significant numbers on 'non' Covid related excess deaths.As I've pointed out on another thread, the fact that this isn't being discussed by the Governments,Media and health authorities should be a concern.
But as always on this forum paranoia sets in with many of the posters and they start to think any kind of discussion must be in the form of 'anti-vax', it isn't !"Are you vaccinated? | |||
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"The jabbed are dropping like flies now. Would you like to provide proof of that? And NOT in my inbox. Try the ONS or every Offical Government site from around the world.. Even the WHO has published data on non Covid excess deaths.. But hey I guess they are all wrong eh? No doubt a Ben houchen/Jacob young/steve turner fan! And why would you say that? Anecdotal evidence
Oh really?
I'd suggest getting checked out,seeing things that really aren't there could be a sign of something serious.
Touché but we thought your appreciate it being a cherry picker
So you're insinuating there isn't huge numbers of non Covid excess deaths?
Patients are no longer routinely tested for covid and unless specific requested autopsies do not asses for Covid. So there is an easy argument that these non Covid deaths may actually be Covid deaths. As I say cherry picking
What are you actually going on about?
Nearly every developed Nation around the world are seeing significant numbers on 'non' Covid related excess deaths.As I've pointed out on another thread, the fact that this isn't being discussed by the Governments,Media and health authorities should be a concern.
But as always on this forum paranoia sets in with many of the posters and they start to think any kind of discussion must be in the form of 'anti-vax', it isn't !
Are you vaccinated?"Whether I'm vaccinated or not is irrelevant,and again, I sense you're using that question to back up your nonsensical argument.. Breath friend,breath | |||
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"The jabbed are dropping like flies now. Would you like to provide proof of that? And NOT in my inbox. Try the ONS or every Offical Government site from around the world.. Even the WHO has published data on non Covid excess deaths.. But hey I guess they are all wrong eh? No doubt a Ben houchen/Jacob young/steve turner fan! And why would you say that? Anecdotal evidence
Oh really?
I'd suggest getting checked out,seeing things that really aren't there could be a sign of something serious.
Touché but we thought your appreciate it being a cherry picker
So you're insinuating there isn't huge numbers of non Covid excess deaths?
Patients are no longer routinely tested for covid and unless specific requested autopsies do not asses for Covid. So there is an easy argument that these non Covid deaths may actually be Covid deaths. As I say cherry picking
What are you actually going on about?
Nearly every developed Nation around the world are seeing significant numbers on 'non' Covid related excess deaths.As I've pointed out on another thread, the fact that this isn't being discussed by the Governments,Media and health authorities should be a concern.
But as always on this forum paranoia sets in with many of the posters and they start to think any kind of discussion must be in the form of 'anti-vax', it isn't !
Are you vaccinated?
Whether I'm vaccinated or not is irrelevant,and again, I sense you're using that question to back up your nonsensical argument..
Breath friend,breath"It’s very valid as it gives an insight into your framing bias. | |||
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"The jabbed are dropping like flies now. Would you like to provide proof of that? And NOT in my inbox. Try the ONS or every Offical Government site from around the world.. Even the WHO has published data on non Covid excess deaths.. But hey I guess they are all wrong eh? No doubt a Ben houchen/Jacob young/steve turner fan! And why would you say that? Anecdotal evidence
Oh really?
I'd suggest getting checked out,seeing things that really aren't there could be a sign of something serious.
Touché but we thought your appreciate it being a cherry picker
So you're insinuating there isn't huge numbers of non Covid excess deaths?
Patients are no longer routinely tested for covid and unless specific requested autopsies do not asses for Covid. So there is an easy argument that these non Covid deaths may actually be Covid deaths. As I say cherry picking
What are you actually going on about?
Nearly every developed Nation around the world are seeing significant numbers on 'non' Covid related excess deaths.As I've pointed out on another thread, the fact that this isn't being discussed by the Governments,Media and health authorities should be a concern.
But as always on this forum paranoia sets in with many of the posters and they start to think any kind of discussion must be in the form of 'anti-vax', it isn't !
Are you vaccinated?
Whether I'm vaccinated or not is irrelevant,and again, I sense you're using that question to back up your nonsensical argument..
Breath friend,breath
It’s very valid as it gives an insight into your framing bias. "Paranoid assumptions again.. Please do explain what my bias is because I have absolutely no idea what it may be | |||
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"The jabbed are dropping like flies now. Would you like to provide proof of that? And NOT in my inbox. Try the ONS or every Offical Government site from around the world.. Even the WHO has published data on non Covid excess deaths.. But hey I guess they are all wrong eh? No doubt a Ben houchen/Jacob young/steve turner fan! And why would you say that? Anecdotal evidence
Oh really?
I'd suggest getting checked out,seeing things that really aren't there could be a sign of something serious.
Touché but we thought your appreciate it being a cherry picker
So you're insinuating there isn't huge numbers of non Covid excess deaths?
Patients are no longer routinely tested for covid and unless specific requested autopsies do not asses for Covid. So there is an easy argument that these non Covid deaths may actually be Covid deaths. As I say cherry picking
What are you actually going on about?
Nearly every developed Nation around the world are seeing significant numbers on 'non' Covid related excess deaths.As I've pointed out on another thread, the fact that this isn't being discussed by the Governments,Media and health authorities should be a concern.
But as always on this forum paranoia sets in with many of the posters and they start to think any kind of discussion must be in the form of 'anti-vax', it isn't !
Are you vaccinated?
Whether I'm vaccinated or not is irrelevant,and again, I sense you're using that question to back up your nonsensical argument..
Breath friend,breath
It’s very valid as it gives an insight into your framing bias. "So there is no data for excess deaths by vaccination status. It makes perfect sense that there would be excess deaths post pandemic for a myriad of reasons. A big factor is an access to care due to waiting lists and a backlog caused by Covid related factors. Secondly the long term effects of Covid secondary to infection are unknown, it’s not unknown for viruses to cause secondary issues months and even years down the line, which could account for this. More will be known then the 5 year figures are realised from the vaccinated and unvaccinated cohort. | |||
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"The jabbed are dropping like flies now. Would you like to provide proof of that? And NOT in my inbox. Try the ONS or every Offical Government site from around the world.. Even the WHO has published data on non Covid excess deaths.. But hey I guess they are all wrong eh? No doubt a Ben houchen/Jacob young/steve turner fan! And why would you say that? Anecdotal evidence
Oh really?
I'd suggest getting checked out,seeing things that really aren't there could be a sign of something serious.
Touché but we thought your appreciate it being a cherry picker
So you're insinuating there isn't huge numbers of non Covid excess deaths?
Patients are no longer routinely tested for covid and unless specific requested autopsies do not asses for Covid. So there is an easy argument that these non Covid deaths may actually be Covid deaths. As I say cherry picking
What are you actually going on about?
Nearly every developed Nation around the world are seeing significant numbers on 'non' Covid related excess deaths.As I've pointed out on another thread, the fact that this isn't being discussed by the Governments,Media and health authorities should be a concern.
But as always on this forum paranoia sets in with many of the posters and they start to think any kind of discussion must be in the form of 'anti-vax', it isn't !
Are you vaccinated?
Whether I'm vaccinated or not is irrelevant,and again, I sense you're using that question to back up your nonsensical argument..
Breath friend,breath
It’s very valid as it gives an insight into your framing bias.
Paranoid assumptions again..
Please do explain what my bias is because I have absolutely no idea what it may be "Was this you? “ The jabbed are dropping like flies now” | |||
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"The jabbed are dropping like flies now. Would you like to provide proof of that? And NOT in my inbox. Try the ONS or every Offical Government site from around the world.. Even the WHO has published data on non Covid excess deaths.. But hey I guess they are all wrong eh? No doubt a Ben houchen/Jacob young/steve turner fan! And why would you say that? Anecdotal evidence
Oh really?
I'd suggest getting checked out,seeing things that really aren't there could be a sign of something serious.
Touché but we thought your appreciate it being a cherry picker
So you're insinuating there isn't huge numbers of non Covid excess deaths?
Patients are no longer routinely tested for covid and unless specific requested autopsies do not asses for Covid. So there is an easy argument that these non Covid deaths may actually be Covid deaths. As I say cherry picking
What are you actually going on about?
Nearly every developed Nation around the world are seeing significant numbers on 'non' Covid related excess deaths.As I've pointed out on another thread, the fact that this isn't being discussed by the Governments,Media and health authorities should be a concern.
But as always on this forum paranoia sets in with many of the posters and they start to think any kind of discussion must be in the form of 'anti-vax', it isn't !
Are you vaccinated?
Whether I'm vaccinated or not is irrelevant,and again, I sense you're using that question to back up your nonsensical argument..
Breath friend,breath
It’s very valid as it gives an insight into your framing bias.
So there is no data for excess deaths by vaccination status.
It makes perfect sense that there would be excess deaths post pandemic for a myriad of reasons.
A big factor is an access to care due to waiting lists and a backlog caused by Covid related factors.
Secondly the long term effects of Covid secondary to infection are unknown, it’s not unknown for viruses to cause secondary issues months and even years down the line, which could account for this. More will be known then the 5 year figures are realised from the vaccinated and unvaccinated cohort. "Wey hey, well done you got there in the end! Now you're starting to see what I'm getting at,however, I did think my little exercise proved a point in how people are routinely attacked on here for raising an issue. Yes, I strongly believe the reasons why this isn't being discussed (especially in this country) is because it will expose the fundamental problems caused to the NHS by this utterly rotten Government. | |||
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"The jabbed are dropping like flies now. Would you like to provide proof of that? And NOT in my inbox. Try the ONS or every Offical Government site from around the world.. Even the WHO has published data on non Covid excess deaths.. But hey I guess they are all wrong eh? No doubt a Ben houchen/Jacob young/steve turner fan! And why would you say that? Anecdotal evidence
Oh really?
I'd suggest getting checked out,seeing things that really aren't there could be a sign of something serious.
Touché but we thought your appreciate it being a cherry picker
So you're insinuating there isn't huge numbers of non Covid excess deaths?
Patients are no longer routinely tested for covid and unless specific requested autopsies do not asses for Covid. So there is an easy argument that these non Covid deaths may actually be Covid deaths. As I say cherry picking
What are you actually going on about?
Nearly every developed Nation around the world are seeing significant numbers on 'non' Covid related excess deaths.As I've pointed out on another thread, the fact that this isn't being discussed by the Governments,Media and health authorities should be a concern.
But as always on this forum paranoia sets in with many of the posters and they start to think any kind of discussion must be in the form of 'anti-vax', it isn't !
Are you vaccinated?
Whether I'm vaccinated or not is irrelevant,and again, I sense you're using that question to back up your nonsensical argument..
Breath friend,breath
It’s very valid as it gives an insight into your framing bias.
So there is no data for excess deaths by vaccination status.
It makes perfect sense that there would be excess deaths post pandemic for a myriad of reasons.
A big factor is an access to care due to waiting lists and a backlog caused by Covid related factors.
Secondly the long term effects of Covid secondary to infection are unknown, it’s not unknown for viruses to cause secondary issues months and even years down the line, which could account for this. More will be known then the 5 year figures are realised from the vaccinated and unvaccinated cohort.
Wey hey, well done you got there in the end!
Now you're starting to see what I'm getting at,however, I did think my little exercise proved a point in how people are routinely attacked on here for raising an issue.
Yes, I strongly believe the reasons why this isn't being discussed (especially in this country)
is because it will expose the fundamental problems caused to the NHS by this utterly rotten Government."Was this you? “ The jabbed are dropping like flies now” Because that statement is at odds with your latest. | |||
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"The jabbed are dropping like flies now. Would you like to provide proof of that? And NOT in my inbox. Try the ONS or every Offical Government site from around the world.. Even the WHO has published data on non Covid excess deaths.. But hey I guess they are all wrong eh? No doubt a Ben houchen/Jacob young/steve turner fan! And why would you say that? Anecdotal evidence
Oh really?
I'd suggest getting checked out,seeing things that really aren't there could be a sign of something serious.
Touché but we thought your appreciate it being a cherry picker
So you're insinuating there isn't huge numbers of non Covid excess deaths?
Patients are no longer routinely tested for covid and unless specific requested autopsies do not asses for Covid. So there is an easy argument that these non Covid deaths may actually be Covid deaths. As I say cherry picking
What are you actually going on about?
Nearly every developed Nation around the world are seeing significant numbers on 'non' Covid related excess deaths.As I've pointed out on another thread, the fact that this isn't being discussed by the Governments,Media and health authorities should be a concern.
But as always on this forum paranoia sets in with many of the posters and they start to think any kind of discussion must be in the form of 'anti-vax', it isn't !
Are you vaccinated?
Whether I'm vaccinated or not is irrelevant,and again, I sense you're using that question to back up your nonsensical argument..
Breath friend,breath
It’s very valid as it gives an insight into your framing bias.
Paranoid assumptions again..
Please do explain what my bias is because I have absolutely no idea what it may be
Was this you?
“ The jabbed are dropping like flies now”"^^Rather a pathetic response really wasn't it,and uncalled for. | |||
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"The jabbed are dropping like flies now. Would you like to provide proof of that? And NOT in my inbox. Try the ONS or every Offical Government site from around the world.. Even the WHO has published data on non Covid excess deaths.. But hey I guess they are all wrong eh? No doubt a Ben houchen/Jacob young/steve turner fan! And why would you say that? Anecdotal evidence
Oh really?
I'd suggest getting checked out,seeing things that really aren't there could be a sign of something serious.
Touché but we thought your appreciate it being a cherry picker
So you're insinuating there isn't huge numbers of non Covid excess deaths?
Patients are no longer routinely tested for covid and unless specific requested autopsies do not asses for Covid. So there is an easy argument that these non Covid deaths may actually be Covid deaths. As I say cherry picking
What are you actually going on about?
Nearly every developed Nation around the world are seeing significant numbers on 'non' Covid related excess deaths.As I've pointed out on another thread, the fact that this isn't being discussed by the Governments,Media and health authorities should be a concern.
But as always on this forum paranoia sets in with many of the posters and they start to think any kind of discussion must be in the form of 'anti-vax', it isn't !
Are you vaccinated?
Whether I'm vaccinated or not is irrelevant,and again, I sense you're using that question to back up your nonsensical argument..
Breath friend,breath
It’s very valid as it gives an insight into your framing bias.
Paranoid assumptions again..
Please do explain what my bias is because I have absolutely no idea what it may be
Was this you?
“ The jabbed are dropping like flies now”
^^Rather a pathetic response really wasn't it,and uncalled for.
"Was “ The jabbed are dropping like flies now” As statement you made? Simple question. | |||
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"The jabbed are dropping like flies now. Would you like to provide proof of that? And NOT in my inbox. Try the ONS or every Offical Government site from around the world.. Even the WHO has published data on non Covid excess deaths.. But hey I guess they are all wrong eh? No doubt a Ben houchen/Jacob young/steve turner fan! And why would you say that? Anecdotal evidence
Oh really?
I'd suggest getting checked out,seeing things that really aren't there could be a sign of something serious.
Touché but we thought your appreciate it being a cherry picker
So you're insinuating there isn't huge numbers of non Covid excess deaths?
Patients are no longer routinely tested for covid and unless specific requested autopsies do not asses for Covid. So there is an easy argument that these non Covid deaths may actually be Covid deaths. As I say cherry picking
What are you actually going on about?
Nearly every developed Nation around the world are seeing significant numbers on 'non' Covid related excess deaths.As I've pointed out on another thread, the fact that this isn't being discussed by the Governments,Media and health authorities should be a concern.
But as always on this forum paranoia sets in with many of the posters and they start to think any kind of discussion must be in the form of 'anti-vax', it isn't !
Are you vaccinated?
Whether I'm vaccinated or not is irrelevant,and again, I sense you're using that question to back up your nonsensical argument..
Breath friend,breath
It’s very valid as it gives an insight into your framing bias.
Paranoid assumptions again..
Please do explain what my bias is because I have absolutely no idea what it may be
Was this you?
“ The jabbed are dropping like flies now”
^^Rather a pathetic response really wasn't it,and uncalled for.
"If you care to read that initial comment again (which I misinterpreted the op) My response mentioned 'non' Covid excess deaths data. Does that clear it up? Are you happy now or are you going to continue with your game of black and white? | |||
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"The jabbed are dropping like flies now. Would you like to provide proof of that? And NOT in my inbox. Try the ONS or every Offical Government site from around the world.. Even the WHO has published data on non Covid excess deaths.. But hey I guess they are all wrong eh? No doubt a Ben houchen/Jacob young/steve turner fan! And why would you say that? Anecdotal evidence
Oh really?
I'd suggest getting checked out,seeing things that really aren't there could be a sign of something serious.
Touché but we thought your appreciate it being a cherry picker
So you're insinuating there isn't huge numbers of non Covid excess deaths?
Patients are no longer routinely tested for covid and unless specific requested autopsies do not asses for Covid. So there is an easy argument that these non Covid deaths may actually be Covid deaths. As I say cherry picking
What are you actually going on about?
Nearly every developed Nation around the world are seeing significant numbers on 'non' Covid related excess deaths.As I've pointed out on another thread, the fact that this isn't being discussed by the Governments,Media and health authorities should be a concern.
But as always on this forum paranoia sets in with many of the posters and they start to think any kind of discussion must be in the form of 'anti-vax', it isn't !
Are you vaccinated?
Whether I'm vaccinated or not is irrelevant,and again, I sense you're using that question to back up your nonsensical argument..
Breath friend,breath
It’s very valid as it gives an insight into your framing bias.
Paranoid assumptions again..
Please do explain what my bias is because I have absolutely no idea what it may be
Was this you?
“ The jabbed are dropping like flies now”
^^Rather a pathetic response really wasn't it,and uncalled for.
If you care to read that initial comment again (which I misinterpreted the op)
My response mentioned 'non' Covid excess deaths data. Does that clear it up?
Are you happy now or are you going to continue with your game of black and white?"Why are you unable to answer a direct question with a yes or a no. Did you say “The jabbed are dropping like flies now” It’s a simple yes or no. No need to obstructive | |||
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"The jabbed are dropping like flies now. Would you like to provide proof of that? And NOT in my inbox. Try the ONS or every Offical Government site from around the world.. Even the WHO has published data on non Covid excess deaths.. But hey I guess they are all wrong eh? No doubt a Ben houchen/Jacob young/steve turner fan! And why would you say that? Anecdotal evidence
Oh really?
I'd suggest getting checked out,seeing things that really aren't there could be a sign of something serious.
Touché but we thought your appreciate it being a cherry picker
So you're insinuating there isn't huge numbers of non Covid excess deaths?
Patients are no longer routinely tested for covid and unless specific requested autopsies do not asses for Covid. So there is an easy argument that these non Covid deaths may actually be Covid deaths. As I say cherry picking
What are you actually going on about?
Nearly every developed Nation around the world are seeing significant numbers on 'non' Covid related excess deaths.As I've pointed out on another thread, the fact that this isn't being discussed by the Governments,Media and health authorities should be a concern.
But as always on this forum paranoia sets in with many of the posters and they start to think any kind of discussion must be in the form of 'anti-vax', it isn't !
Are you vaccinated?
Whether I'm vaccinated or not is irrelevant,and again, I sense you're using that question to back up your nonsensical argument..
Breath friend,breath
It’s very valid as it gives an insight into your framing bias.
Paranoid assumptions again..
Please do explain what my bias is because I have absolutely no idea what it may be
Was this you?
“ The jabbed are dropping like flies now”
^^Rather a pathetic response really wasn't it,and uncalled for.
If you care to read that initial comment again (which I misinterpreted the op)
My response mentioned 'non' Covid excess deaths data. Does that clear it up?
Are you happy now or are you going to continue with your game of black and white?
Why are you unable to answer a direct question with a yes or a no.
Did you say
“The jabbed are dropping like flies now”
It’s a simple yes or no. No need to obstructive"Look carefully, Was it me who posted it? The answer to that is NO isn't it so there's your answer. | |||
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"The jabbed are dropping like flies now. Would you like to provide proof of that? And NOT in my inbox. Try the ONS or every Offical Government site from around the world.. Even the WHO has published data on non Covid excess deaths.. But hey I guess they are all wrong eh? No doubt a Ben houchen/Jacob young/steve turner fan! And why would you say that? Anecdotal evidence
Oh really?
I'd suggest getting checked out,seeing things that really aren't there could be a sign of something serious.
Touché but we thought your appreciate it being a cherry picker
So you're insinuating there isn't huge numbers of non Covid excess deaths?
Patients are no longer routinely tested for covid and unless specific requested autopsies do not asses for Covid. So there is an easy argument that these non Covid deaths may actually be Covid deaths. As I say cherry picking
What are you actually going on about?
Nearly every developed Nation around the world are seeing significant numbers on 'non' Covid related excess deaths.As I've pointed out on another thread, the fact that this isn't being discussed by the Governments,Media and health authorities should be a concern.
But as always on this forum paranoia sets in with many of the posters and they start to think any kind of discussion must be in the form of 'anti-vax', it isn't !
Are you vaccinated?
Whether I'm vaccinated or not is irrelevant,and again, I sense you're using that question to back up your nonsensical argument..
Breath friend,breath
It’s very valid as it gives an insight into your framing bias.
Paranoid assumptions again..
Please do explain what my bias is because I have absolutely no idea what it may be
Was this you?
“ The jabbed are dropping like flies now”
^^Rather a pathetic response really wasn't it,and uncalled for.
If you care to read that initial comment again (which I misinterpreted the op)
My response mentioned 'non' Covid excess deaths data. Does that clear it up?
Are you happy now or are you going to continue with your game of black and white?
Why are you unable to answer a direct question with a yes or a no.
Did you say
“The jabbed are dropping like flies now”
It’s a simple yes or no. No need to obstructive"No apology for getting it so very wrong then? Didn't think so. | |||
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"The jabbed are dropping like flies now. Would you like to provide proof of that? And NOT in my inbox. Try the ONS or every Offical Government site from around the world.. Even the WHO has published data on non Covid excess deaths.. But hey I guess they are all wrong eh? No doubt a Ben houchen/Jacob young/steve turner fan! And why would you say that? Anecdotal evidence
Oh really?
I'd suggest getting checked out,seeing things that really aren't there could be a sign of something serious.
Touché but we thought your appreciate it being a cherry picker
So you're insinuating there isn't huge numbers of non Covid excess deaths?
Patients are no longer routinely tested for covid and unless specific requested autopsies do not asses for Covid. So there is an easy argument that these non Covid deaths may actually be Covid deaths. As I say cherry picking
What are you actually going on about?
Nearly every developed Nation around the world are seeing significant numbers on 'non' Covid related excess deaths.As I've pointed out on another thread, the fact that this isn't being discussed by the Governments,Media and health authorities should be a concern.
But as always on this forum paranoia sets in with many of the posters and they start to think any kind of discussion must be in the form of 'anti-vax', it isn't !
Are you vaccinated?
Whether I'm vaccinated or not is irrelevant,and again, I sense you're using that question to back up your nonsensical argument..
Breath friend,breath
It’s very valid as it gives an insight into your framing bias.
Paranoid assumptions again..
Please do explain what my bias is because I have absolutely no idea what it may be
Was this you?
“ The jabbed are dropping like flies now”
^^Rather a pathetic response really wasn't it,and uncalled for.
If you care to read that initial comment again (which I misinterpreted the op)
My response mentioned 'non' Covid excess deaths data. Does that clear it up?
Are you happy now or are you going to continue with your game of black and white?
Why are you unable to answer a direct question with a yes or a no.
Did you say
“The jabbed are dropping like flies now”
It’s a simple yes or no. No need to obstructive
No apology for getting it so very wrong then?
Didn't think so. "Perhaps they’re not on line? Just a thought | |||
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"The jabbed are dropping like flies now. Would you like to provide proof of that? And NOT in my inbox. Try the ONS or every Offical Government site from around the world.. Even the WHO has published data on non Covid excess deaths.. But hey I guess they are all wrong eh? No doubt a Ben houchen/Jacob young/steve turner fan! And why would you say that? Anecdotal evidence
Oh really?
I'd suggest getting checked out,seeing things that really aren't there could be a sign of something serious.
Touché but we thought your appreciate it being a cherry picker
So you're insinuating there isn't huge numbers of non Covid excess deaths?
Patients are no longer routinely tested for covid and unless specific requested autopsies do not asses for Covid. So there is an easy argument that these non Covid deaths may actually be Covid deaths. As I say cherry picking
What are you actually going on about?
Nearly every developed Nation around the world are seeing significant numbers on 'non' Covid related excess deaths.As I've pointed out on another thread, the fact that this isn't being discussed by the Governments,Media and health authorities should be a concern.
But as always on this forum paranoia sets in with many of the posters and they start to think any kind of discussion must be in the form of 'anti-vax', it isn't !
Are you vaccinated?
Whether I'm vaccinated or not is irrelevant,and again, I sense you're using that question to back up your nonsensical argument..
Breath friend,breath
It’s very valid as it gives an insight into your framing bias.
Paranoid assumptions again..
Please do explain what my bias is because I have absolutely no idea what it may be
Was this you?
“ The jabbed are dropping like flies now”
^^Rather a pathetic response really wasn't it,and uncalled for.
If you care to read that initial comment again (which I misinterpreted the op)
My response mentioned 'non' Covid excess deaths data. Does that clear it up?
Are you happy now or are you going to continue with your game of black and white?
Why are you unable to answer a direct question with a yes or a no.
Did you say
“The jabbed are dropping like flies now”
It’s a simple yes or no. No need to obstructive
No apology for getting it so very wrong then?
Didn't think so.
Perhaps they’re not on line? Just a thought "Lol you could be right..I won't hold my breath for one though. | |||
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"Keep getting emails from nhs, saying its time for a jab. Ive yet to have one and wont have one. Thankfully I let my body build up its natural immunity to covid" How did you let your body build up its natural immunity? | |||
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"Keep getting emails from nhs, saying its time for a jab. Ive yet to have one and wont have one. Thankfully I let my body build up its natural immunity to covid How did you let your body build up its natural immunity?" Because YouTube said it would | |||
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"Keep getting emails from nhs, saying its time for a jab. Ive yet to have one and wont have one. Thankfully I let my body build up its natural immunity to covid How did you let your body build up its natural immunity?" Either by getting the vaccine or getting the virus itself Basic knowledge that | |||
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"Keep getting emails from nhs, saying its time for a jab. Ive yet to have one and wont have one. Thankfully I let my body build up its natural immunity to covid How did you let your body build up its natural immunity? Either by getting the vaccine or getting the virus itself Basic knowledge that " I didn't ask how natural immunity is built up! I asked the poster his opinion to which YOU cannot respond! | |||
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"Am I wrong or has everyone on here who has been complaining about COVID or have COVID Atm. Been jabbed?, only people I know in civilian world who has had COVID recently have been vaccinated. Jst wondering seems like a coincidence..?" With the majority of adults having been vaccinated, at least once, it stands to reason there's a correlation with getting covid. It's a numbers game. | |||
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"A wee girl upstairs from me has had it 6 times! Course she is out every night. I had it once when it first came out. Both are vaxed lol. I have my flu and booster next Monday but after reading Astrogenica have paid out over £400 million in compensation to peeps it does not inspire confidence." I'm sure AZ has been discontinued. | |||
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"A wee girl upstairs from me has had it 6 times! Course she is out every night. I had it once when it first came out. Both are vaxed lol. I have my flu and booster next Monday but after reading Astrogenica have paid out over £400 million in compensation to peeps it does not inspire confidence. I'm sure AZ has been discontinued."
I'm fairly sure it's not part of the UK booster programmes today | |||
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