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 . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people. | |||
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people. "Another jab I will be avoiding like the plague. No jabs in over 30 years and still alive... how is that even possible? Lolz  | |||
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people.
Another jab I will be avoiding like the plague. No jabs in over 30 years and still alive... how is that even possible? Lolz "Our immune systems are relatively stronger, whilst younger. As we age, they decline, like the rest of your body. The past that each of us have had, are not the same as our futures. | |||
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people.
Another jab I will be avoiding like the plague. No jabs in over 30 years and still alive... how is that even possible? Lolz
Our immune systems are relatively stronger, whilst younger. As we age, they decline, like the rest of your body. The past that each of us have had, are not the same as our futures. "That's correct but you don't see me running around like a headless chicken... we age, we die. It is life. Get over it. | |||
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people.
Another jab I will be avoiding like the plague. No jabs in over 30 years and still alive... how is that even possible? Lolz
Our immune systems are relatively stronger, whilst younger. As we age, they decline, like the rest of your body. The past that each of us have had, are not the same as our futures.
That's correct but you don't see me running around like a headless chicken... we age, we die. It is life. Get over it. ""We age... We die" When we're blessed with so much intelligence and knowledge about how life can be improved, it seems reckless to not grasp potential and maximise its quality. | |||
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people.
Another jab I will be avoiding like the plague. No jabs in over 30 years and still alive... how is that even possible? Lolz
Our immune systems are relatively stronger, whilst younger. As we age, they decline, like the rest of your body. The past that each of us have had, are not the same as our futures.
That's correct but you don't see me running around like a headless chicken... we age, we die. It is life. Get over it.
"We age... We die"
When we're blessed with so much intelligence and knowledge about how life can be improved, it seems reckless to not grasp potential and maximise its quality. "Indeed, anyone wanting the clot shot is welcome to it...plus the umpteen useless clot shot boosters for ever more. | |||
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people.
Another jab I will be avoiding like the plague. No jabs in over 30 years and still alive... how is that even possible? Lolz
Our immune systems are relatively stronger, whilst younger. As we age, they decline, like the rest of your body. The past that each of us have had, are not the same as our futures.
That's correct but you don't see me running around like a headless chicken... we age, we die. It is life. Get over it.
"We age... We die"
When we're blessed with so much intelligence and knowledge about how life can be improved, it seems reckless to not grasp potential and maximise its quality.
Indeed, anyone wanting the clot shot is welcome to it...plus the umpteen useless clot shot boosters for ever more. "You do realise that this thread isn't about the Covid vaccines? | |||
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people.
Another jab I will be avoiding like the plague. No jabs in over 30 years and still alive... how is that even possible? Lolz
Our immune systems are relatively stronger, whilst younger. As we age, they decline, like the rest of your body. The past that each of us have had, are not the same as our futures.
That's correct but you don't see me running around like a headless chicken... we age, we die. It is life. Get over it.
"We age... We die"
When we're blessed with so much intelligence and knowledge about how life can be improved, it seems reckless to not grasp potential and maximise its quality.
Indeed, anyone wanting the clot shot is welcome to it...plus the umpteen useless clot shot boosters for ever more.
You do realise that this thread isn't about the Covid vaccines?"Indeed, I do. But...they are both mRNA 'vaccines '. They have that in common. | |||
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people.
Another jab I will be avoiding like the plague. No jabs in over 30 years and still alive... how is that even possible? Lolz
Our immune systems are relatively stronger, whilst younger. As we age, they decline, like the rest of your body. The past that each of us have had, are not the same as our futures.
That's correct but you don't see me running around like a headless chicken... we age, we die. It is life. Get over it.
"We age... We die"
When we're blessed with so much intelligence and knowledge about how life can be improved, it seems reckless to not grasp potential and maximise its quality.
Indeed, anyone wanting the clot shot is welcome to it...plus the umpteen useless clot shot boosters for ever more.
You do realise that this thread isn't about the Covid vaccines?
Indeed, I do.
But...they are both mRNA 'vaccines '. They have that in common. "*Shrug* you do you | |||
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people.
Another jab I will be avoiding like the plague. No jabs in over 30 years and still alive... how is that even possible? Lolz
Our immune systems are relatively stronger, whilst younger. As we age, they decline, like the rest of your body. The past that each of us have had, are not the same as our futures.
That's correct but you don't see me running around like a headless chicken... we age, we die. It is life. Get over it.
"We age... We die"
When we're blessed with so much intelligence and knowledge about how life can be improved, it seems reckless to not grasp potential and maximise its quality.
Indeed, anyone wanting the clot shot is welcome to it...plus the umpteen useless clot shot boosters for ever more.
You do realise that this thread isn't about the Covid vaccines?
Indeed, I do.
But...they are both mRNA 'vaccines '. They have that in common.
*Shrug* you do you"What does that mean? | |||
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people.
Another jab I will be avoiding like the plague. No jabs in over 30 years and still alive... how is that even possible? Lolz
Our immune systems are relatively stronger, whilst younger. As we age, they decline, like the rest of your body. The past that each of us have had, are not the same as our futures.
That's correct but you don't see me running around like a headless chicken... we age, we die. It is life. Get over it.
"We age... We die"
When we're blessed with so much intelligence and knowledge about how life can be improved, it seems reckless to not grasp potential and maximise its quality.
Indeed, anyone wanting the clot shot is welcome to it...plus the umpteen useless clot shot boosters for ever more.
You do realise that this thread isn't about the Covid vaccines?
Indeed, I do.
But...they are both mRNA 'vaccines '. They have that in common.
*Shrug* you do you
What does that mean?"It means, do what you like. | |||
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people.
Another jab I will be avoiding like the plague. No jabs in over 30 years and still alive... how is that even possible? Lolz
Our immune systems are relatively stronger, whilst younger. As we age, they decline, like the rest of your body. The past that each of us have had, are not the same as our futures.
That's correct but you don't see me running around like a headless chicken... we age, we die. It is life. Get over it.
"We age... We die"
When we're blessed with so much intelligence and knowledge about how life can be improved, it seems reckless to not grasp potential and maximise its quality.
Indeed, anyone wanting the clot shot is welcome to it...plus the umpteen useless clot shot boosters for ever more.
You do realise that this thread isn't about the Covid vaccines?
Indeed, I do.
But...they are both mRNA 'vaccines '. They have that in common.
*Shrug* you do you
What does that mean?
It means, do what you like. "Thanks, I will do, just as I have always done. It's my body, and my choice, and nobody will force me to take any vaccine. Unless we live in a dictatorship.  | |||
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people.
Another jab I will be avoiding like the plague. No jabs in over 30 years and still alive... how is that even possible? Lolz
Our immune systems are relatively stronger, whilst younger. As we age, they decline, like the rest of your body. The past that each of us have had, are not the same as our futures.
That's correct but you don't see me running around like a headless chicken... we age, we die. It is life. Get over it.
"We age... We die"
When we're blessed with so much intelligence and knowledge about how life can be improved, it seems reckless to not grasp potential and maximise its quality.
Indeed, anyone wanting the clot shot is welcome to it...plus the umpteen useless clot shot boosters for ever more. "you do realise that this is about a flu vaccine??. Also your not any more likely to get a clot from a covid vaccine than the nautral percentage of random clots forming in the population. Not that it will matter to you but someone is far more likely to develop a clot from taking the pill or even smoking. However this is about the flu vaccine... I have only recently begun to have it due to my job... MRNA technology is not new though and is quite amazing when you look at the work being done with it to help towards cancer | |||
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people.
Another jab I will be avoiding like the plague. No jabs in over 30 years and still alive... how is that even possible? Lolz
Our immune systems are relatively stronger, whilst younger. As we age, they decline, like the rest of your body. The past that each of us have had, are not the same as our futures.
That's correct but you don't see me running around like a headless chicken... we age, we die. It is life. Get over it.
"We age... We die"
When we're blessed with so much intelligence and knowledge about how life can be improved, it seems reckless to not grasp potential and maximise its quality.
Indeed, anyone wanting the clot shot is welcome to it...plus the umpteen useless clot shot boosters for ever more. you do realise that this is about a flu vaccine??.
Also your not any more likely to get a clot from a covid vaccine than the nautral percentage of random clots forming in the population.
Not that it will matter to you but someone is far more likely to develop a clot from taking the pill or even smoking.
However this is about the flu vaccine... I have only recently begun to have it due to my job...
MRNA technology is not new though and is quite amazing when you look at the work being done with it to help towards cancer "Your question is already answered above. I believe in the true, tried and tested human immune system to protect me, but others are free to get jabbed if that is what they want. Health choice and freedom for all.  | |||
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people.
Another jab I will be avoiding like the plague. No jabs in over 30 years and still alive... how is that even possible? Lolz
Our immune systems are relatively stronger, whilst younger. As we age, they decline, like the rest of your body. The past that each of us have had, are not the same as our futures.
That's correct but you don't see me running around like a headless chicken... we age, we die. It is life. Get over it. "It's nearly impossible to "get over" your own death. | |||
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people.
Another jab I will be avoiding like the plague. No jabs in over 30 years and still alive... how is that even possible? Lolz
Our immune systems are relatively stronger, whilst younger. As we age, they decline, like the rest of your body. The past that each of us have had, are not the same as our futures.
That's correct but you don't see me running around like a headless chicken... we age, we die. It is life. Get over it.
"We age... We die"
When we're blessed with so much intelligence and knowledge about how life can be improved, it seems reckless to not grasp potential and maximise its quality.
Indeed, anyone wanting the clot shot is welcome to it...plus the umpteen useless clot shot boosters for ever more. you do realise that this is about a flu vaccine??.
Also your not any more likely to get a clot from a covid vaccine than the nautral percentage of random clots forming in the population.
Not that it will matter to you but someone is far more likely to develop a clot from taking the pill or even smoking.
However this is about the flu vaccine... I have only recently begun to have it due to my job...
MRNA technology is not new though and is quite amazing when you look at the work being done with it to help towards cancer
Your question is already answered above.
I believe in the true, tried and tested human immune system to protect me, but others are free to get jabbed if that is what they want. Health choice and freedom for all. "2020 called and it wants its arguments back. Go, do whatever you want. No one is stopping you. | |||
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people.
Another jab I will be avoiding like the plague. No jabs in over 30 years and still alive... how is that even possible? Lolz "In part because most other people are. Thanks to the great success of many vaccines a number of harmful pathogen’s are so rare your body has never encountered them. You are an individual, public health is about protecting populations. You may have only a 1:10,000 chance of dying due to a particular pathogen, vaccinations are about protecting that 1. I vaccinate my sheep. They don’t all die if I don’t but losses are without doubt far higher if I don’t. | |||
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people.
Another jab I will be avoiding like the plague. No jabs in over 30 years and still alive... how is that even possible? Lolz
Our immune systems are relatively stronger, whilst younger. As we age, they decline, like the rest of your body. The past that each of us have had, are not the same as our futures.
That's correct but you don't see me running around like a headless chicken... we age, we die. It is life. Get over it. "What is it we are getting over? | |||
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"Isnt anyone who is thinking about having it, even a little worried it Hasnt been tested on humans??!!" I assume it will be by time it becomes an actual available vaccine. | |||
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"Wait, I'm not up on the current theory but I thought the reason all the anti covid vax loons believed this was causing clots was the spike protein, not the mrna tech?" I thought it was the spike protein, but only the spike protein in the vaccine. Because the spike protein in the virus is natural and lovely, except when it's a bioweapon unleashed by China. But you should still catch it because it's natural. Or something. | |||
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"Wait, I'm not up on the current theory but I thought the reason all the anti covid vax loons believed this was causing clots was the spike protein, not the mrna tech? I thought it was the spike protein, but only the spike protein in the vaccine. Because the spike protein in the virus is natural and lovely, except when it's a bioweapon unleashed by China. But you should still catch it because it's natural. Or something." I've got natural and vaccine spikes in me? Am I doomed, is it like a fight to the death inside me? | |||
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"Wait, I'm not up on the current theory but I thought the reason all the anti covid vax loons believed this was causing clots was the spike protein, not the mrna tech? I thought it was the spike protein, but only the spike protein in the vaccine. Because the spike protein in the virus is natural and lovely, except when it's a bioweapon unleashed by China. But you should still catch it because it's natural. Or something.I've got natural and vaccine spikes in me? Am I doomed, is it like a fight to the death inside me?" Fucked if I know. It's not my argument. I just think it's internally inconsistent. 1. if the spike protein is bad, wouldn't the virus creating lots more spike protein be worse? 2. How can it be both natural and a bioweapon? 3. Wouldn't you want to avoid a bioweapon? That sounds bad. | |||
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people.
Another jab I will be avoiding like the plague. No jabs in over 30 years and still alive... how is that even possible? Lolz
Our immune systems are relatively stronger, whilst younger. As we age, they decline, like the rest of your body. The past that each of us have had, are not the same as our futures.
That's correct but you don't see me running around like a headless chicken... we age, we die. It is life. Get over it. "I'm curious does this view extend to all medicene? | |||
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"Almost 63 and still going strong without a single jab ….wow" ever? | |||
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"Never subscribed to it being a weapon. If it is, its a poor one. Surely youd want a bio weapon to have a much larger kill rate? I'm fully open to it being a Chinese fuck up unleashed to the world accidentally tho. Not like we'll ever know for sure." No, I'm not saying you did. I'm not sure where it came from, evidence seems ambiguous last I saw. I actually think a slower burn weapon would be more useful. Something like SARS, everyone freaks out and it gets eliminated because the kill rate is high. Few thousand people infected - serious action taken to make it stop. Covid - kill rate is low, but it's had terrible effects on healthcare systems globally, has a non trivial disabling rate (economic implications), and unknown long term effects. Because the kill rate is low, it gets discounted and allowed to spread. Damage to society may end up being greater overall, over many years. (I'm not saying it is a bioweapon, but if I were evil, I'd pick a low kill rate weapon!) | |||
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"Never subscribed to it being a weapon. If it is, its a poor one. Surely youd want a bio weapon to have a much larger kill rate? I'm fully open to it being a Chinese fuck up unleashed to the world accidentally tho. Not like we'll ever know for sure. No, I'm not saying you did. I'm not sure where it came from, evidence seems ambiguous last I saw. I actually think a slower burn weapon would be more useful. Something like SARS, everyone freaks out and it gets eliminated because the kill rate is high. Few thousand people infected - serious action taken to make it stop. Covid - kill rate is low, but it's had terrible effects on healthcare systems globally, has a non trivial disabling rate (economic implications), and unknown long term effects. Because the kill rate is low, it gets discounted and allowed to spread. Damage to society may end up being greater overall, over many years. (I'm not saying it is a bioweapon, but if I were evil, I'd pick a low kill rate weapon!)" Do you have a white furry pussy with a diamond necklace...? | |||
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"Never subscribed to it being a weapon. If it is, its a poor one. Surely youd want a bio weapon to have a much larger kill rate? I'm fully open to it being a Chinese fuck up unleashed to the world accidentally tho. Not like we'll ever know for sure. No, I'm not saying you did. I'm not sure where it came from, evidence seems ambiguous last I saw. I actually think a slower burn weapon would be more useful. Something like SARS, everyone freaks out and it gets eliminated because the kill rate is high. Few thousand people infected - serious action taken to make it stop. Covid - kill rate is low, but it's had terrible effects on healthcare systems globally, has a non trivial disabling rate (economic implications), and unknown long term effects. Because the kill rate is low, it gets discounted and allowed to spread. Damage to society may end up being greater overall, over many years. (I'm not saying it is a bioweapon, but if I were evil, I'd pick a low kill rate weapon!) Do you have a white furry pussy with a diamond necklace...? " Merely a vivid imagination  | |||
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"Never subscribed to it being a weapon. If it is, its a poor one. Surely youd want a bio weapon to have a much larger kill rate? I'm fully open to it being a Chinese fuck up unleashed to the world accidentally tho. Not like we'll ever know for sure. No, I'm not saying you did. I'm not sure where it came from, evidence seems ambiguous last I saw. I actually think a slower burn weapon would be more useful. Something like SARS, everyone freaks out and it gets eliminated because the kill rate is high. Few thousand people infected - serious action taken to make it stop. Covid - kill rate is low, but it's had terrible effects on healthcare systems globally, has a non trivial disabling rate (economic implications), and unknown long term effects. Because the kill rate is low, it gets discounted and allowed to spread. Damage to society may end up being greater overall, over many years. (I'm not saying it is a bioweapon, but if I were evil, I'd pick a low kill rate weapon!)" My post wasn't meant to seem like you were saying that. Apologies. You've convinced me tho, it's a damn bioweapon! 
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"Never subscribed to it being a weapon. If it is, its a poor one. Surely youd want a bio weapon to have a much larger kill rate? I'm fully open to it being a Chinese fuck up unleashed to the world accidentally tho. Not like we'll ever know for sure. No, I'm not saying you did. I'm not sure where it came from, evidence seems ambiguous last I saw. I actually think a slower burn weapon would be more useful. Something like SARS, everyone freaks out and it gets eliminated because the kill rate is high. Few thousand people infected - serious action taken to make it stop. Covid - kill rate is low, but it's had terrible effects on healthcare systems globally, has a non trivial disabling rate (economic implications), and unknown long term effects. Because the kill rate is low, it gets discounted and allowed to spread. Damage to society may end up being greater overall, over many years. (I'm not saying it is a bioweapon, but if I were evil, I'd pick a low kill rate weapon!)My post wasn't meant to seem like you were saying that. Apologies. You've convinced me tho, it's a damn bioweapon!
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I'm just going through it logically. Which fucked us up more? Not the high kill rate thing | |||
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"Not sure the Chinese need to do too much to fuck us up and dominate the world. Maybe support the Russians a bit... Maybe provide most of the world's cheap stuff... Maybe own most of the world's "estate" they've been purchasing over the last 50 years... Leave the rest to happen au natur. " Oh I know I know... Maybe buy most of the mineral producing rights in Africa... | |||
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people.
Another jab I will be avoiding like the plague. No jabs in over 30 years and still alive... how is that even possible? Lolz "50 years of being allowed out on my own and I haven't been run over. I guess we're immune | |||
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"Not sure the Chinese need to do too much to fuck us up and dominate the world. Maybe support the Russians a bit... Maybe provide most of the world's cheap stuff... Maybe own most of the world's "estate" they've been purchasing over the last 50 years... Leave the rest to happen au natur. Oh I know I know... Maybe buy most of the mineral producing rights in Africa... " Yeah, I'm not saying it is - just saying it'd be a better bioweapon than something with a higher kill rate. If one were that way inclined. | |||
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"Almost 63 and still going strong without a single jab ….wowever?" Yep …. | |||
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"Almost 63 and still going strong without a single jab ….wowever? Yep …. " what about child hood vaccinations.. hep b etc?? | |||
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people.
Another jab I will be avoiding like the plague. No jabs in over 30 years and still alive... how is that even possible? Lolz
Our immune systems are relatively stronger, whilst younger. As we age, they decline, like the rest of your body. The past that each of us have had, are not the same as our futures.
That's correct but you don't see me running around like a headless chicken... we age, we die. It is life. Get over it. "Are you a doctor who visits the elderly at home. Sure they would love your diagnosis. Well Maude, sorry to hear you are feeling a bit under the weather but hey, we age, we die, it's life, get over it. I'll let myself out, bye.
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"Almost 63 and still going strong without a single jab ….wowever? Yep …. what about child hood vaccinations.. hep b etc?? Nope never had any apart from the polio thing on a sugar cube "I'd imagine you had your vaccines as a baby and the ones at school | |||
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people. "so it’s another MRNA vaccine; must have multiple types of spike protein in it if it’s a single shot that protects against everything; this will cause even more strokes and heart attacks. But it’s your choice at the end of the day so bh all means, continue to bang the drum but I would be very dubious of it. | |||
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people.
Another jab I will be avoiding like the plague. No jabs in over 30 years and still alive... how is that even possible? Lolz
Our immune systems are relatively stronger, whilst younger. As we age, they decline, like the rest of your body. The past that each of us have had, are not the same as our futures.
That's correct but you don't see me running around like a headless chicken... we age, we die. It is life. Get over it.
"We age... We die"
When we're blessed with so much intelligence and knowledge about how life can be improved, it seems reckless to not grasp potential and maximise its quality. "I take it you’ve spotted how this ‘intelligence’ wasted on some though … | |||
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people.
Another jab I will be avoiding like the plague. No jabs in over 30 years and still alive... how is that even possible? Lolz
Our immune systems are relatively stronger, whilst younger. As we age, they decline, like the rest of your body. The past that each of us have had, are not the same as our futures.
That's correct but you don't see me running around like a headless chicken... we age, we die. It is life. Get over it.
"We age... We die"
When we're blessed with so much intelligence and knowledge about how life can be improved, it seems reckless to not grasp potential and maximise its quality.
Indeed, anyone wanting the clot shot is welcome to it...plus the umpteen useless clot shot boosters for ever more.
You do realise that this thread isn't about the Covid vaccines?
Indeed, I do.
But...they are both mRNA 'vaccines '. They have that in common.
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"Almost 63 and still going strong without a single jab ….wowever? Yep …. what about child hood vaccinations.. hep b etc?? Nope never had any apart from the polio thing on a sugar cube I'd imagine you had your vaccines as a baby and the ones at school
Nope … I caught measles mumps and chicken pox never had any jabs …. Oooooo a tetanus for a dog bite but that’s it … maybe the reason why I’m fit and healthy on no medication and no health issues at 63 "I have had all the required jabs and Iam fit and healthy, whatever can this mean? | |||
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people. "You do know that the yearly prediction isn't guesswork but going by certain countries having it 6 months or so before the UK autumn time | |||
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"Regarding mRNA vaccines in relation to Covid, and spike protein in particular; "The active substance of the COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 is a multi-dose concentrate of RNA-containing lipid nanoparticles formulated in saline and sucrose to be diluted for intramuscular (IM) administration. A single vial contains 5 doses of 30 micrograms of BNT162b2 RNA (embedded in lipid nanoparticles). COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 is highly purified single-stranded, 5’-capped messenger RNA (mRNA) produced by cell-free in vitro transcription from the corresponding DNA templates. COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 encodes a mutant viral spike (S) protein of SARS-CoV-2, with two point mutations inserted to lock S in an antigenically preferred prefusion conformation (P2 S). It is formulated as an RNA-lipid nanoparticle of nucleosidemodified mRNA containing N1-methylpseudouridine instead of uridine. Encapsulation into lipid nanoparticles enables transfection of the mRNA into host cells after intramuscular injection. During mixing of the RNA and the dissolved lipids, the lipids form the nanoparticles encapsulating the RNA. After injection, the lipid nanoparticles are taken up by the cells, and the RNA is released into the cytosol. In the cytosol, the RNA is translated into the encoded viral protein. The viral spike (S) protein antigen induces an adaptive immune response through neutralising antibodies. Furthermore, as the expressed spike (S) protein is being degraded intracellularly, the resulting peptides can be presented at the cell surface, triggering a specific T cell-mediated immune response with activity against the virus and infected cells." Note; The vaccine *encodes* a mutant viral spike (S) protein. It does not *include* spike protein. This is frequently misunderstood. Winston " Impressive copy & paste skills; thanks, but no thanks; I will take my chances having done simple risk benefit analysis. | |||
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"Regarding mRNA vaccines in relation to Covid, and spike protein in particular; "The active substance of the COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 is a multi-dose concentrate of RNA-containing lipid nanoparticles formulated in saline and sucrose to be diluted for intramuscular (IM) administration. A single vial contains 5 doses of 30 micrograms of BNT162b2 RNA (embedded in lipid nanoparticles). COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 is highly purified single-stranded, 5’-capped messenger RNA (mRNA) produced by cell-free in vitro transcription from the corresponding DNA templates. COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 encodes a mutant viral spike (S) protein of SARS-CoV-2, with two point mutations inserted to lock S in an antigenically preferred prefusion conformation (P2 S). It is formulated as an RNA-lipid nanoparticle of nucleosidemodified mRNA containing N1-methylpseudouridine instead of uridine. Encapsulation into lipid nanoparticles enables transfection of the mRNA into host cells after intramuscular injection. During mixing of the RNA and the dissolved lipids, the lipids form the nanoparticles encapsulating the RNA. After injection, the lipid nanoparticles are taken up by the cells, and the RNA is released into the cytosol. In the cytosol, the RNA is translated into the encoded viral protein. The viral spike (S) protein antigen induces an adaptive immune response through neutralising antibodies. Furthermore, as the expressed spike (S) protein is being degraded intracellularly, the resulting peptides can be presented at the cell surface, triggering a specific T cell-mediated immune response with activity against the virus and infected cells." Note; The vaccine *encodes* a mutant viral spike (S) protein. It does not *include* spike protein. This is frequently misunderstood. Winston Impressive copy & paste skills; thanks, but no thanks; I will take my chances having done simple risk benefit analysis. " Absolutely fine, take it, don't take it; as I keep saying, each to their own. Just don't post untruths is all I'd like.
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"Almost 63 and still going strong without a single jab ….wowever? Yep …. what about child hood vaccinations.. hep b etc?? Nope never had any apart from the polio thing on a sugar cube I'd imagine you had your vaccines as a baby and the ones at school
Nope … I caught measles mumps and chicken pox never had any jabs …. Oooooo a tetanus for a dog bite but that’s it … maybe the reason why I’m fit and healthy on no medication and no health issues at 63
I have had all the required jabs and Iam fit and healthy, whatever can this mean? " | |||
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"Almost 63 and still going strong without a single jab ….wowever? Yep …. what about child hood vaccinations.. hep b etc?? Nope never had any apart from the polio thing on a sugar cube I'd imagine you had your vaccines as a baby and the ones at school
Nope … I caught measles mumps and chicken pox never had any jabs …. Oooooo a tetanus for a dog bite but that’s it … maybe the reason why I’m fit and healthy on no medication and no health issues at 63 "Well perhaps thank the rest of us.. successful vaccination policies have greatly reduced the prevalence of many potentially lethal pathogens to the point that you would be very unlikely to contract them. | |||
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"Almost 63 and still going strong without a single jab ….wowever? Yep …. what about child hood vaccinations.. hep b etc?? Nope never had any apart from the polio thing on a sugar cube I'd imagine you had your vaccines as a baby and the ones at school
Nope … I caught measles mumps and chicken pox never had any jabs …. Oooooo a tetanus for a dog bite but that’s it … maybe the reason why I’m fit and healthy on no medication and no health issues at 63
Well perhaps thank the rest of us.. successful vaccination policies have greatly reduced the prevalence of many potentially lethal pathogens to the point that you would be very unlikely to contract them."She really shouldn't have to thank anyone. Everyone has a choice what makes you think that yours is the superior one | |||
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"Almost 63 and still going strong without a single jab ….wowever? Yep …. what about child hood vaccinations.. hep b etc?? Nope never had any apart from the polio thing on a sugar cube I'd imagine you had your vaccines as a baby and the ones at school
Nope … I caught measles mumps and chicken pox never had any jabs …. Oooooo a tetanus for a dog bite but that’s it … maybe the reason why I’m fit and healthy on no medication and no health issues at 63
Well perhaps thank the rest of us.. successful vaccination policies have greatly reduced the prevalence of many potentially lethal pathogens to the point that you would be very unlikely to contract them."Oh do give it a rest. | |||
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people.
Another jab I will be avoiding like the plague. No jabs in over 30 years and still alive... how is that even possible? Lolz
Our immune systems are relatively stronger, whilst younger. As we age, they decline, like the rest of your body. The past that each of us have had, are not the same as our futures.
That's correct but you don't see me running around like a headless chicken... we age, we die. It is life. Get over it.
"We age... We die"
When we're blessed with so much intelligence and knowledge about how life can be improved, it seems reckless to not grasp potential and maximise its quality. "I wouldn’t be overly concerned Sophie. It’s the survival of the fittest, so I say let those who are less fit to understand the value of knowledge and how to apply it, sacrifice themselves, so the rest of us can thrive and prosper! | |||
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people.
Another jab I will be avoiding like the plague. No jabs in over 30 years and still alive... how is that even possible? Lolz
Our immune systems are relatively stronger, whilst younger. As we age, they decline, like the rest of your body. The past that each of us have had, are not the same as our futures.
That's correct but you don't see me running around like a headless chicken... we age, we die. It is life. Get over it.
Are you a doctor who visits the elderly at home.
Sure they would love your diagnosis.
Well Maude, sorry to hear you are feeling a bit under the weather but hey, we age, we die, it's life, get over it.
I'll let myself out, bye.
Unbelievable."It seems you haven't been keeping up... look into 'midazolam Hancock good death care home'. | |||
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"Regarding mRNA vaccines in relation to Covid, and spike protein in particular; "The active substance of the COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 is a multi-dose concentrate of RNA-containing lipid nanoparticles formulated in saline and sucrose to be diluted for intramuscular (IM) administration. A single vial contains 5 doses of 30 micrograms of BNT162b2 RNA (embedded in lipid nanoparticles). COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 is highly purified single-stranded, 5’-capped messenger RNA (mRNA) produced by cell-free in vitro transcription from the corresponding DNA templates. COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 encodes a mutant viral spike (S) protein of SARS-CoV-2, with two point mutations inserted to lock S in an antigenically preferred prefusion conformation (P2 S). It is formulated as an RNA-lipid nanoparticle of nucleosidemodified mRNA containing N1-methylpseudouridine instead of uridine. Encapsulation into lipid nanoparticles enables transfection of the mRNA into host cells after intramuscular injection. During mixing of the RNA and the dissolved lipids, the lipids form the nanoparticles encapsulating the RNA. After injection, the lipid nanoparticles are taken up by the cells, and the RNA is released into the cytosol. In the cytosol, the RNA is translated into the encoded viral protein. The viral spike (S) protein antigen induces an adaptive immune response through neutralising antibodies. Furthermore, as the expressed spike (S) protein is being degraded intracellularly, the resulting peptides can be presented at the cell surface, triggering a specific T cell-mediated immune response with activity against the virus and infected cells." Note; The vaccine *encodes* a mutant viral spike (S) protein. It does not *include* spike protein. This is frequently misunderstood. Winston Impressive copy & paste skills; thanks, but no thanks; I will take my chances having done simple risk benefit analysis. Absolutely fine, take it, don't take it; as I keep saying, each to their own. Just don't post untruths is all I'd like.
Winston"Winston, how do YOU determine what is true and not true? | |||
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"Almost 63 and still going strong without a single jab ….wowever? Yep …. what about child hood vaccinations.. hep b etc?? Nope never had any apart from the polio thing on a sugar cube I'd imagine you had your vaccines as a baby and the ones at school
Nope … I caught measles mumps and chicken pox never had any jabs …. Oooooo a tetanus for a dog bite but that’s it … maybe the reason why I’m fit and healthy on no medication and no health issues at 63
Well perhaps thank the rest of us.. successful vaccination policies have greatly reduced the prevalence of many potentially lethal pathogens to the point that you would be very unlikely to contract them.
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"Regarding mRNA vaccines in relation to Covid, and spike protein in particular; "The active substance of the COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 is a multi-dose concentrate of RNA-containing lipid nanoparticles formulated in saline and sucrose to be diluted for intramuscular (IM) administration. A single vial contains 5 doses of 30 micrograms of BNT162b2 RNA (embedded in lipid nanoparticles). COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 is highly purified single-stranded, 5’-capped messenger RNA (mRNA) produced by cell-free in vitro transcription from the corresponding DNA templates. COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 encodes a mutant viral spike (S) protein of SARS-CoV-2, with two point mutations inserted to lock S in an antigenically preferred prefusion conformation (P2 S). It is formulated as an RNA-lipid nanoparticle of nucleosidemodified mRNA containing N1-methylpseudouridine instead of uridine. Encapsulation into lipid nanoparticles enables transfection of the mRNA into host cells after intramuscular injection. During mixing of the RNA and the dissolved lipids, the lipids form the nanoparticles encapsulating the RNA. After injection, the lipid nanoparticles are taken up by the cells, and the RNA is released into the cytosol. In the cytosol, the RNA is translated into the encoded viral protein. The viral spike (S) protein antigen induces an adaptive immune response through neutralising antibodies. Furthermore, as the expressed spike (S) protein is being degraded intracellularly, the resulting peptides can be presented at the cell surface, triggering a specific T cell-mediated immune response with activity against the virus and infected cells." Note; The vaccine *encodes* a mutant viral spike (S) protein. It does not *include* spike protein. This is frequently misunderstood. Winston Impressive copy & paste skills; thanks, but no thanks; I will take my chances having done simple risk benefit analysis. Absolutely fine, take it, don't take it; as I keep saying, each to their own. Just don't post untruths is all I'd like.
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Winston, how do YOU determine what is true and not true? "I'd say things like vaccinated people emitting mac numbers is quite easily not true | |||
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" I believe in the true, tried and tested human immune system to protect me, but others are free to get jabbed if that is what they want. Health choice and freedom for all. "A splendid attitude spoiled only by the presence of your constant bombardment of anti Vax propaganda. | |||
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"Regarding mRNA vaccines in relation to Covid, and spike protein in particular; "The active substance of the COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 is a multi-dose concentrate of RNA-containing lipid nanoparticles formulated in saline and sucrose to be diluted for intramuscular (IM) administration. A single vial contains 5 doses of 30 micrograms of BNT162b2 RNA (embedded in lipid nanoparticles). COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 is highly purified single-stranded, 5’-capped messenger RNA (mRNA) produced by cell-free in vitro transcription from the corresponding DNA templates. COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 encodes a mutant viral spike (S) protein of SARS-CoV-2, with two point mutations inserted to lock S in an antigenically preferred prefusion conformation (P2 S). It is formulated as an RNA-lipid nanoparticle of nucleosidemodified mRNA containing N1-methylpseudouridine instead of uridine. Encapsulation into lipid nanoparticles enables transfection of the mRNA into host cells after intramuscular injection. During mixing of the RNA and the dissolved lipids, the lipids form the nanoparticles encapsulating the RNA. After injection, the lipid nanoparticles are taken up by the cells, and the RNA is released into the cytosol. In the cytosol, the RNA is translated into the encoded viral protein. The viral spike (S) protein antigen induces an adaptive immune response through neutralising antibodies. Furthermore, as the expressed spike (S) protein is being degraded intracellularly, the resulting peptides can be presented at the cell surface, triggering a specific T cell-mediated immune response with activity against the virus and infected cells." Note; The vaccine *encodes* a mutant viral spike (S) protein. It does not *include* spike protein. This is frequently misunderstood. Winston Impressive copy & paste skills; thanks, but no thanks; I will take my chances having done simple risk benefit analysis. Absolutely fine, take it, don't take it; as I keep saying, each to their own. Just don't post untruths is all I'd like.
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Winston, how do YOU determine what is true and not true? "That’s a good question, I can only say what works for me. It depends on the subject and what’s been said. Also, I don’t stop looking once I’ve found something that sides with my beliefs, confirmation bias is a thing and most of us have it. The best thing that ever came out of a University education (in my day) was the ability to hold the opposing view and argue it. I’ve learnt more from defending a position I disagree with than vice versa. Short answer, research, research, research. Research the writer, the publisher, the funder. If it’s a paper I’d look at the author, their academic qualifications and experience. Academic qualifications can add weight, experience adds credibility. However, if their academic qualifications and experiences aren’t in the same field as their paper then it must be viewed with a measure of doubt and scepticism. For example, anyone who thinks an embalmer knows more about blood composition than a forensic pathologist can be easily “assessed” Completely different fields of expertise and only one would have expertise and qualifications in that field. Who published and funded the paper, what’s their “angle”. Is it an anti vax paper? Who wrote it, who published it, funded it? If the answers is all anti vax then the paper can’t be taken in good faith. Alternatively, if it’s a pro vax paper, ask the same questions. If the paper is written, published and funded by a big pharma company the article shouldn’t necessarily be taken in good faith. Factcheck sites are a good source, as is the NHS and ONS. Again, I wouldn’t stop at a Factcheck site, research, reference, research, reference, research, reference. From my own field of expertise, people come to me for advice and information on my specialist subject. I’ve acted as an expert witness in criminal cases, featured in 2 historical documentaries, given information & opinion in the national press and provided research to authors on my subject. These bodies come to me because I’ve been studying the subject for 40+ years, have a Professorship in the subject and am recognised as an expert by my peers. I use the same yardstick when researching a new subject. Academic qualification and experience. It just takes a bit of time and research. Not sure that answers your question, it's just how I do it. I've been studying and researching my suject for bloody years.
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people. "Sounds like your getting payed.. One wonders how people are so gulable. | |||
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"Don't discount visual and individual evidence. Things people have experienced and seen in their own lives. Don't need a university degree to see stuff. If someone sees stuff they haven't seen before.. It merits asking a question I'd have thought. " Also valuable in context. Winston | |||
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"Don't discount visual and individual evidence. Things people have experienced and seen in their own lives. Don't need a university degree to see stuff. If someone sees stuff they haven't seen before.. It merits asking a question I'd have thought. " Sure. Observation and anecdote can be a starting point for investigation and analysis. But we recognise that there are flaws in individual observations. Belt and braces. Keep looking. I have my own ideas about the things I'm seeing. Alongside things I'm reading, they inform my behaviour. But I recognise that I have cognitive biases, pet theories, and my eyes only see a tiny snapshot of the data. Which is why I don't believe my ideas are true - just how I make very personal decisions. | |||
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"I'll stick to healthy eating, healthy lifestyle, lots of stress free living and vitamins. Stick your experimental big pharma bollocks where the sun don't shine. " well said ! | |||
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"I'll stick to healthy eating, healthy lifestyle, lots of stress free living and vitamins. Stick your experimental big pharma bollocks where the sun don't shine. " Vitamins... Reminds me of the blackadder nursey sketch... "ointments what you need"... Sir you have diabetes... Here is some barocca. | |||
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people.
Sounds like your getting payed..
One wonders how people are so gulable.
"I'm not paid, or a shill, thank you very much for any pharmaceutical body. Like you, I assume, I have an open mind, liking to understand things, typically needing to rely on vast amounts of powerful statistical evidence and extensive expertise involved in research.
The scientific process has allowed gigantic leaps for human health. Vaccinations, in particular, have led to billions of people gaining so much more from life. . Many promising starts turn out to be dead ends, though we will always need them, to help us to learn more robustly.
The universal flu jab has had many avenues explored. This current one may be one that just points the way towards future progress. It's exciting that the human spirit is endowed with curiosity, determination, compassion for others and a zeal for improvements.
This potential vaccine may not help people overall. Realists will not want to overestimate its likelihood of success but we can still appreciate what3 progress is made. | |||
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people.
Another jab I will be avoiding like the plague. No jabs in over 30 years and still alive... how is that even possible? Lolz
Our immune systems are relatively stronger, whilst younger. As we age, they decline, like the rest of your body. The past that each of us have had, are not the same as our futures.
That's correct but you don't see me running around like a headless chicken... we age, we die. It is life. Get over it.
Are you a doctor who visits the elderly at home.
Sure they would love your diagnosis.
Well Maude, sorry to hear you are feeling a bit under the weather but hey, we age, we die, it's life, get over it.
I'll let myself out, bye.
Unbelievable."That's pretty much what Hancock did when he authorised the use of Care Pathway NG163 for thousands of care home residents except NG163 helped them on their way with copious amounts of Midazolam. | |||
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" Says the bloke that if he had a accident i'm guessing he'll be going to a large building where they can make all his poorly poor bits all better by ....dancing around waving smoking sticks around and then proceed to pray to whatever god etc etc etc and then of course then send him on his merry way with his bits still all poorly poor instead of availing himself to help based on the science he rails against ?? "Vitamins is what you need. | |||
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people.
Another jab I will be avoiding like the plague. No jabs in over 30 years and still alive... how is that even possible? Lolz
Our immune systems are relatively stronger, whilst younger. As we age, they decline, like the rest of your body. The past that each of us have had, are not the same as our futures.
That's correct but you don't see me running around like a headless chicken... we age, we die. It is life. Get over it.
Are you a doctor who visits the elderly at home.
Sure they would love your diagnosis.
Well Maude, sorry to hear you are feeling a bit under the weather but hey, we age, we die, it's life, get over it.
I'll let myself out, bye.
Unbelievable.
That's pretty much what Hancock did when he authorised the use of Care Pathway NG163 for thousands of care home residents except NG163 helped them on their way with copious amounts of Midazolam. "Probably more the morphine at end of life and NG163 is a communication tool. Have you used it? | |||
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people.
Another jab I will be avoiding like the plague. No jabs in over 30 years and still alive... how is that even possible? Lolz
Our immune systems are relatively stronger, whilst younger. As we age, they decline, like the rest of your body. The past that each of us have had, are not the same as our futures.
That's correct but you don't see me running around like a headless chicken... we age, we die. It is life. Get over it.
Are you a doctor who visits the elderly at home.
Sure they would love your diagnosis.
Well Maude, sorry to hear you are feeling a bit under the weather but hey, we age, we die, it's life, get over it.
I'll let myself out, bye.
Unbelievable.
That's pretty much what Hancock did when he authorised the use of Care Pathway NG163 for thousands of care home residents except NG163 helped them on their way with copious amounts of Midazolam. "Are you honestly suggesting there weren't end of life plans for care home residents before covid | |||
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Vitamins is what you need. "I thought love was all you need? | |||
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" Says the bloke that if he had a accident i'm guessing he'll be going to a large building where they can make all his poorly poor bits all better by ....dancing around waving smoking sticks around and then proceed to pray to whatever god etc etc etc and then of course then send him on his merry way with his bits still all poorly poor instead of availing himself to help based on the science he rails against ??
Vitamins is what you need.
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people.
Another jab I will be avoiding like the plague. No jabs in over 30 years and still alive... how is that even possible? Lolz
Our immune systems are relatively stronger, whilst younger. As we age, they decline, like the rest of your body. The past that each of us have had, are not the same as our futures. "This is mother nature's way of telling us to fuck-off our time is up. | |||
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people.
Sounds like your getting payed..
One wonders how people are so gulable.
I'm not paid, or a shill, thank you very much for any pharmaceutical body. Like you, I assume, I have an open mind, liking to understand things, typically needing to rely on vast amounts of powerful statistical evidence and extensive expertise involved in research.
The scientific process has allowed gigantic leaps for human health. Vaccinations, in particular, have led to billions of people gaining so much more from life. . Many promising starts turn out to be dead ends, though we will always need them, to help us to learn more robustly.
The universal flu jab has had many avenues explored. This current one may be one that just points the way towards future progress. It's exciting that the human spirit is endowed with curiosity, determination, compassion for others and a zeal for improvements.
This potential vaccine may not help people overall. Realists will not want to overestimate its likelihood of success but we can still appreciate what3 progress is made. "To play devil's advocate. Science isn't infallible, especially on the Pharmaceutical front. People have been purposely hurt and lied to before in the name of making money too Look at the opioid crisis in US/polio outbreaks in africa/the lawsuits against every major drug company for purposely selling drugs that they knew would harm. I persinally can understand people's scepticism when it comes to any sort of medicine. It's scary when you look into the court cases in particular. | |||
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"I feel somewhat misled by the OP's threadline... Great Vaccine News should have read like this... The government in collaboration with approved & controlled scientists, academics and billion pound pharma companies have developed new vaccines for many viruses and diseases. In a lengthy official statement a government spokeswoman said.... these vaccines should be offered to anyone that feels they must have them and be provided free of charge at the point of use. Anyone who feels that they don't need, want or care about them should be left the f*CK alone and should not have any of their freedoms, rights or liberties curtailed because of refusal. They should be allowed to move freely within society and travel unhindered, be free from financial penalty and be able to go the the f*ucking pub for a f*ucking pint without some f*ucking c*unt asking them to provide personal medical information to some p*ick at the door earning ten bob an hour to promote tyranny. We as the government are here to serve the citizens of the UK and not take away the rights and everyday freedoms at the behest of globalist organisations. . Government spokeswomen are the best! . That would have been 'great vaccine news' "Nice swearing. Its not the way community health works though for some diseases. | |||
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"I feel somewhat misled by the OP's threadline... Great Vaccine News should have read like this... The government in collaboration with approved & controlled scientists, academics and billion pound pharma companies have developed new vaccines for many viruses and diseases. In a lengthy official statement a government spokeswoman said.... these vaccines should be offered to anyone that feels they must have them and be provided free of charge at the point of use. Anyone who feels that they don't need, want or care about them should be left the f*CK alone and should not have any of their freedoms, rights or liberties curtailed because of refusal. They should be allowed to move freely within society and travel unhindered, be free from financial penalty and be able to go the the f*ucking pub for a f*ucking pint without some f*ucking c*unt asking them to provide personal medical information to some p*ick at the door earning ten bob an hour to promote tyranny. We as the government are here to serve the citizens of the UK and not take away the rights and everyday freedoms at the behest of globalist organisations. . Government spokeswomen are the best! . That would have been 'great vaccine news' "Whilst some of your points, such as free universal health care, are appropriate. Where did you get your access to a pint curtailed due to a vaccine? This would be even better news, if and when a universal flu vaccine is effective, safe and approved. As would vaccines for other life-limiting conditions. I think Malaria is potentially being rolled out at present | |||
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"I don't recall ever having to declare my vaccine status to enter a pub here." We certainly did in Ireland. If you didnt have your vaccine pass you were refused entry. And not just pubs but cinemas, restaurants etc. | |||
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"I'll stick to healthy eating, healthy lifestyle, lots of stress free living and vitamins. Stick your experimental big pharma bollocks where the sun don't shine. well said !" Yeah who needs vaccines or modern medicine in general, for that matter. I stick to leeches, me. | |||
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"I'll stick to healthy eating, healthy lifestyle, lots of stress free living and vitamins. Stick your experimental big pharma bollocks where the sun don't shine. well said ! Yeah who needs vaccines or modern medicine in general, for that matter. I stick to leeches, me." Absolutely YOUR choice...as are my personal medical decisions. Just double check with your leech supplier that the course you take actually does what it claims to do. I'm no expert but I'll stake a tenner that leeches along with corona vaccines don't prevent spread of anything. But you just take your leech course if you feel you need it and I'll take whatever I think I need without fear of having my rights infringed...deal? | |||
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"I don't recall ever having to declare my vaccine status to enter a pub here. We certainly did in Ireland. If you didnt have your vaccine pass you were refused entry. And not just pubs but cinemas, restaurants etc." True in the north also. The Belfast Xmas market demanded proof of vaccination before entry. Airlines and countries also asked for the same. Some people have short memories. A jab side effect perhaps? | |||
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"I'll stick to healthy eating, healthy lifestyle, lots of stress free living and vitamins. Stick your experimental big pharma bollocks where the sun don't shine. well said ! Yeah who needs vaccines or modern medicine in general, for that matter. I stick to leeches, me. Absolutely YOUR choice...as are my personal medical decisions. Just double check with your leech supplier that the course you take actually does what it claims to do. I'm no expert but I'll stake a tenner that leeches along with corona vaccines don't prevent spread of anything. But you just take your leech course if you feel you need it and I'll take whatever I think I need without fear of having my rights infringed...deal? "I get my leeches from a Witch doctor, so they're magic too. That makes them way better than these so-called vaccines. | |||
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"Regarding mRNA vaccines in relation to Covid, and spike protein in particular; "The active substance of the COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 is a multi-dose concentrate of RNA-containing lipid nanoparticles formulated in saline and sucrose to be diluted for intramuscular (IM) administration. A single vial contains 5 doses of 30 micrograms of BNT162b2 RNA (embedded in lipid nanoparticles). COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 is highly purified single-stranded, 5’-capped messenger RNA (mRNA) produced by cell-free in vitro transcription from the corresponding DNA templates. COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 encodes a mutant viral spike (S) protein of SARS-CoV-2, with two point mutations inserted to lock S in an antigenically preferred prefusion conformation (P2 S). It is formulated as an RNA-lipid nanoparticle of nucleosidemodified mRNA containing N1-methylpseudouridine instead of uridine. Encapsulation into lipid nanoparticles enables transfection of the mRNA into host cells after intramuscular injection. During mixing of the RNA and the dissolved lipids, the lipids form the nanoparticles encapsulating the RNA. After injection, the lipid nanoparticles are taken up by the cells, and the RNA is released into the cytosol. In the cytosol, the RNA is translated into the encoded viral protein. The viral spike (S) protein antigen induces an adaptive immune response through neutralising antibodies. Furthermore, as the expressed spike (S) protein is being degraded intracellularly, the resulting peptides can be presented at the cell surface, triggering a specific T cell-mediated immune response with activity against the virus and infected cells." Note; The vaccine *encodes* a mutant viral spike (S) protein. It does not *include* spike protein. This is frequently misunderstood. Winston Impressive copy & paste skills; thanks, but no thanks; I will take my chances having done simple risk benefit analysis. " It's interesting that your take away was that my post is "a copy and paste" And not that it clearly disproves your assertion that mRNA vaccines do not include spike protein as you stated. Winston | |||
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"Regarding mRNA vaccines in relation to Covid, and spike protein in particular; "The active substance of the COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 is a multi-dose concentrate of RNA-containing lipid nanoparticles formulated in saline and sucrose to be diluted for intramuscular (IM) administration. A single vial contains 5 doses of 30 micrograms of BNT162b2 RNA (embedded in lipid nanoparticles). COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 is highly purified single-stranded, 5’-capped messenger RNA (mRNA) produced by cell-free in vitro transcription from the corresponding DNA templates. COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 encodes a mutant viral spike (S) protein of SARS-CoV-2, with two point mutations inserted to lock S in an antigenically preferred prefusion conformation (P2 S). It is formulated as an RNA-lipid nanoparticle of nucleosidemodified mRNA containing N1-methylpseudouridine instead of uridine. Encapsulation into lipid nanoparticles enables transfection of the mRNA into host cells after intramuscular injection. During mixing of the RNA and the dissolved lipids, the lipids form the nanoparticles encapsulating the RNA. After injection, the lipid nanoparticles are taken up by the cells, and the RNA is released into the cytosol. In the cytosol, the RNA is translated into the encoded viral protein. The viral spike (S) protein antigen induces an adaptive immune response through neutralising antibodies. Furthermore, as the expressed spike (S) protein is being degraded intracellularly, the resulting peptides can be presented at the cell surface, triggering a specific T cell-mediated immune response with activity against the virus and infected cells." Note; The vaccine *encodes* a mutant viral spike (S) protein. It does not *include* spike protein. This is frequently misunderstood. Winston Impressive copy & paste skills; thanks, but no thanks; I will take my chances having done simple risk benefit analysis. It's interesting that your take away was that my post is "a copy and paste" And not that it clearly disproves your assertion that mRNA vaccines include spike protein as you stated. Winston " *fat finger edit. 
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"I don't recall ever having to declare my vaccine status to enter a pub here. We certainly did in Ireland. If you didnt have your vaccine pass you were refused entry. And not just pubs but cinemas, restaurants etc. True in the north also. The Belfast Xmas market demanded proof of vaccination before entry. Airlines and countries also asked for the same. Some people have short memories. A jab side effect perhaps? "Here in my case isn’t Ireland so no shortness of memory here. | |||
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"I don't recall ever having to declare my vaccine status to enter a pub here. We certainly did in Ireland. If you didnt have your vaccine pass you were refused entry. And not just pubs but cinemas, restaurants etc. True in the north also. The Belfast Xmas market demanded proof of vaccination before entry. Airlines and countries also asked for the same. Some people have short memories. A jab side effect perhaps?
Here in my case isn’t Ireland so no shortness of memory here."Northern Ireland is part of UK. Consider yourself lucky that you didn't have to show your papers upon entrance to establishments.. especially when those "papers" only proved that you had a shot, not that you won't catch or transmit any diseases | |||
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"I think mrna is worse than spike proteins. Mrna orders your cells to create a spike protein, which your body then attacks. Its more like giving yourself an autoimmune disease. The body is creating something and then trying to get rid of it. How long does this mrna stay in the body doing that? Noone knows!" Wtf | |||
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"I think mrna is worse than spike proteins. Mrna orders your cells to create a spike protein, which your body then attacks. Its more like giving yourself an autoimmune disease. The body is creating something and then trying to get rid of it. How long does this mrna stay in the body doing that? Noone knows!" Like lots of things on here a bit right but a lot wrong. | |||
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"I think mrna is worse than spike proteins. Mrna orders your cells to create a spike protein, which your body then attacks. Its more like giving yourself an autoimmune disease. The body is creating something and then trying to get rid of it. How long does this mrna stay in the body doing that? Noone knows! Hi, what is right amd what is wrong?
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"I think mrna is worse than spike proteins. Mrna orders your cells to create a spike protein, which your body then attacks. Its more like giving yourself an autoimmune disease. The body is creating something and then trying to get rid of it. How long does this mrna stay in the body doing that? Noone knows!" Your post indicates that you potentially haven't got a great understanding of our complex immune systems, nor mRNA vaccine options and immune responses. It's almost like some of those posts that used to appear, trying to cause alarm about genetic engineering, which that fraudulent medic, Andrew Wakefield, started to spread false, malicious scare stories about. Autoimmune diseases are awful but vaccines that trigger our immune responses, to fight infections, are nothing like that. | |||
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"I think mrna is worse than spike proteins. Mrna orders your cells to create a spike protein, which your body then attacks. Its more like giving yourself an autoimmune disease. The body is creating something and then trying to get rid of it. How long does this mrna stay in the body doing that? Noone knows! Your post indicates that you potentially haven't got a great understanding of our complex immune systems, nor mRNA vaccine options and immune responses. It's almost like some of those posts that used to appear, trying to cause alarm about genetic engineering, which that fraudulent medic, Andrew Wakefield, started to spread false, malicious scare stories about. Autoimmune diseases are awful but vaccines that trigger our immune responses, to fight infections, are nothing like that. " Our immune system responds to the mrna jab, that is telling our cells to create spike proteins. Our body is creating the problem (MRNA is telling OUR cells to turn into spike proteins. Our cells sit their dormant until given an instruction) and then our body is destroying the cells. Isnt that killing off our own cells? Also know one can be sure that the mrna vaccines are nothing like an autoimmune disease? The trials for this were the general public.. there is still many years of data to be yet collected. | |||
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"I think mrna is worse than spike proteins. Mrna orders your cells to create a spike protein, which your body then attacks. Its more like giving yourself an autoimmune disease. The body is creating something and then trying to get rid of it. How long does this mrna stay in the body doing that? Noone knows! Your post indicates that you potentially haven't got a great understanding of our complex immune systems, nor mRNA vaccine options and immune responses. It's almost like some of those posts that used to appear, trying to cause alarm about genetic engineering, which that fraudulent medic, Andrew Wakefield, started to spread false, malicious scare stories about. Autoimmune diseases are awful but vaccines that trigger our immune responses, to fight infections, are nothing like that. Our immune system responds to the mrna jab, that is telling our cells to create spike proteins. Our body is creating the problem (MRNA is telling OUR cells to turn into spike proteins. Our cells sit their dormant until given an instruction) and then our body is destroying the cells. Isnt that killing off our own cells? Also know one can be sure that the mrna vaccines are nothing like an autoimmune disease? The trials for this were the general public.. there is still many years of data to be yet collected. " You appear terrible confused, that's why it takes a 3-5 years degree course to understand the human immune system. | |||
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people.
Another jab I will be avoiding like the plague. No jabs in over 30 years and still alive... how is that even possible? Lolz
Our immune systems are relatively stronger, whilst younger. As we age, they decline, like the rest of your body. The past that each of us have had, are not the same as our futures.
That's correct but you don't see me running around like a headless chicken... we age, we die. It is life. Get over it.
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"I think mrna is worse than spike proteins. Mrna orders your cells to create a spike protein, which your body then attacks. Its more like giving yourself an autoimmune disease. The body is creating something and then trying to get rid of it. How long does this mrna stay in the body doing that? Noone knows! Your post indicates that you potentially haven't got a great understanding of our complex immune systems, nor mRNA vaccine options and immune responses. It's almost like some of those posts that used to appear, trying to cause alarm about genetic engineering, which that fraudulent medic, Andrew Wakefield, started to spread false, malicious scare stories about. Autoimmune diseases are awful but vaccines that trigger our immune responses, to fight infections, are nothing like that. Our immune system responds to the mrna jab, that is telling our cells to create spike proteins. Our body is creating the problem (MRNA is telling OUR cells to turn into spike proteins. Our cells sit their dormant until given an instruction) and then our body is destroying the cells. Isnt that killing off our own cells? Also know one can be sure that the mrna vaccines are nothing like an autoimmune disease? The trials for this were the general public.. there is still many years of data to be yet collected. You appear terrible confused, that's why it takes a 3-5 years degree course to understand the human immune system." Can you correct me please? | |||
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"I think mrna is worse than spike proteins. Mrna orders your cells to create a spike protein, which your body then attacks. Its more like giving yourself an autoimmune disease. The body is creating something and then trying to get rid of it. How long does this mrna stay in the body doing that? Noone knows! Your post indicates that you potentially haven't got a great understanding of our complex immune systems, nor mRNA vaccine options and immune responses. It's almost like some of those posts that used to appear, trying to cause alarm about genetic engineering, which that fraudulent medic, Andrew Wakefield, started to spread false, malicious scare stories about. Autoimmune diseases are awful but vaccines that trigger our immune responses, to fight infections, are nothing like that. Our immune system responds to the mrna jab, that is telling our cells to create spike proteins. Our body is creating the problem (MRNA is telling OUR cells to turn into spike proteins. Our cells sit their dormant until given an instruction) and then our body is destroying the cells. Isnt that killing off our own cells? Also know one can be sure that the mrna vaccines are nothing like an autoimmune disease? The trials for this were the general public.. there is still many years of data to be yet collected. You appear terrible confused, that's why it takes a 3-5 years degree course to understand the human immune system. Can you correct me please?" Briefly ? It's "No one" not "know one" the rest you'll need to take a degree to correct your misunderstanding it's well beyond the scope of a swingers forum | |||
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"I've got natural and vaccine spikes in me? Am I doomed, is it like a fight to the death inside me?" This is the exact reason I am scared..... | |||
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"I think mrna is worse than spike proteins. Mrna orders your cells to create a spike protein, which your body then attacks. Its more like giving yourself an autoimmune disease. The body is creating something and then trying to get rid of it. How long does this mrna stay in the body doing that? Noone knows! Your post indicates that you potentially haven't got a great understanding of our complex immune systems, nor mRNA vaccine options and immune responses. It's almost like some of those posts that used to appear, trying to cause alarm about genetic engineering, which that fraudulent medic, Andrew Wakefield, started to spread false, malicious scare stories about. Autoimmune diseases are awful but vaccines that trigger our immune responses, to fight infections, are nothing like that. Our immune system responds to the mrna jab, that is telling our cells to create spike proteins. Our body is creating the problem (MRNA is telling OUR cells to turn into spike proteins. Our cells sit their dormant until given an instruction) and then our body is destroying the cells. Isnt that killing off our own cells? Also know one can be sure that the mrna vaccines are nothing like an autoimmune disease? The trials for this were the general public.. there is still many years of data to be yet collected. You appear terrible confused, that's why it takes a 3-5 years degree course to understand the human immune system. Can you correct me please? Briefly ? It's "No one" not "know one" the rest you'll need to take a degree to correct your misunderstanding it's well beyond the scope of a swingers forum " Ok so the only thing you can correct is a minor bit of grammar, well done on that! It's a shame you can't correct me where I'm wrong | |||
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"Surely youd want a bio weapon to have a much larger kill rate?" Not if you designed to look like a healthy helpful injection that all and everyone can have access to.......then 3-5year later when everything about it has all but been forgotten then the death rate kicks in..........no one would ever know all would have been forgotten.........now that would be a proper James Bond baddie bio-weapon | |||
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"The flu isn't a virus as in something you catch, it's your body doing its thing getting rid of dead or toxic cells in the body. Injecting toxic chemicals to keep you healthy,,,, really! Pmsl " So... Germ theory denial? Excellent. | |||
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people.
Another jab I will be avoiding like the plague. No jabs in over 30 years and still alive... how is that even possible? Lolz
Our immune systems are relatively stronger, whilst younger. As we age, they decline, like the rest of your body. The past that each of us have had, are not the same as our futures.
That's correct but you don't see me running around like a headless chicken... we age, we die. It is life. Get over it.
"We age... We die"
When we're blessed with so much intelligence and knowledge about how life can be improved, it seems reckless to not grasp potential and maximise its quality.
Indeed, anyone wanting the clot shot is welcome to it...plus the umpteen useless clot shot boosters for ever more.
You do realise that this thread isn't about the Covid vaccines?
Indeed, I do.
But...they are both mRNA 'vaccines '. They have that in common. "The alarming thing I've just read which for me does include Sars cov 2 to give IT the correct name is that while the OP is happy to boast that this trial was successful at the animal stage trial .. Sars cov 2 injections got pulled from animal trials .. tho Humans are Animals so I guess they just thought to guinea pig those rolling up their sleeve Before anyone starts branding Anti anything .. I believe in inoculations .. don't confuse that shit you keep pumping into your arms in the same class | |||
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people.
Another jab I will be avoiding like the plague. No jabs in over 30 years and still alive... how is that even possible? Lolz
Our immune systems are relatively stronger, whilst younger. As we age, they decline, like the rest of your body. The past that each of us have had, are not the same as our futures.
That's correct but you don't see me running around like a headless chicken... we age, we die. It is life. Get over it.
"We age... We die"
When we're blessed with so much intelligence and knowledge about how life can be improved, it seems reckless to not grasp potential and maximise its quality.
Indeed, anyone wanting the clot shot is welcome to it...plus the umpteen useless clot shot boosters for ever more.
You do realise that this thread isn't about the Covid vaccines?
Indeed, I do.
But...they are both mRNA 'vaccines '. They have that in common.
The alarming thing I've just read which for me does include Sars cov 2 to give IT the correct name is that while the OP is happy to boast that this trial was successful at the animal stage trial .. Sars cov 2 injections got pulled from animal trials .. tho Humans are Animals so I guess they just thought to guinea pig those rolling up their sleeve
Before anyone starts branding Anti anything .. I believe in inoculations .. don't confuse that shit you keep pumping into your arms in the same class "I was on an actual clinical trial for Covid vaccines. I'm human. Please don't talk bullshit. | |||
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Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people.
Another jab I will be avoiding like the plague. No jabs in over 30 years and still alive... how is that even possible? Lolz
Our immune systems are relatively stronger, whilst younger. As we age, they decline, like the rest of your body. The past that each of us have had, are not the same as our futures.
That's correct but you don't see me running around like a headless chicken... we age, we die. It is life. Get over it.
"We age... We die"
When we're blessed with so much intelligence and knowledge about how life can be improved, it seems reckless to not grasp potential and maximise its quality.
Indeed, anyone wanting the clot shot is welcome to it...plus the umpteen useless clot shot boosters for ever more.
You do realise that this thread isn't about the Covid vaccines?
Indeed, I do.
But...they are both mRNA 'vaccines '. They have that in common.
The alarming thing I've just read which for me does include Sars cov 2 to give IT the correct name is that while the OP is happy to boast that this trial was successful at the animal stage trial .. Sars cov 2 injections got pulled from animal trials .. tho Humans are Animals so I guess they just thought to guinea pig those rolling up their sleeve
Before anyone starts branding Anti anything .. I believe in inoculations .. don't confuse that shit you keep pumping into your arms in the same class
I was on an actual clinical trial for Covid vaccines. I'm human.
Please don't talk bullshit."Pleased for you I'm also in a trial one that should have been ran by those trialing you .. researched was pulled on animal trials and that isn't BS | |||
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people.
Another jab I will be avoiding like the plague. No jabs in over 30 years and still alive... how is that even possible? Lolz
Our immune systems are relatively stronger, whilst younger. As we age, they decline, like the rest of your body. The past that each of us have had, are not the same as our futures.
That's correct but you don't see me running around like a headless chicken... we age, we die. It is life. Get over it.
"We age... We die"
When we're blessed with so much intelligence and knowledge about how life can be improved, it seems reckless to not grasp potential and maximise its quality.
Indeed, anyone wanting the clot shot is welcome to it...plus the umpteen useless clot shot boosters for ever more.
You do realise that this thread isn't about the Covid vaccines?
Indeed, I do.
But...they are both mRNA 'vaccines '. They have that in common.
The alarming thing I've just read which for me does include Sars cov 2 to give IT the correct name is that while the OP is happy to boast that this trial was successful at the animal stage trial .. Sars cov 2 injections got pulled from animal trials .. tho Humans are Animals so I guess they just thought to guinea pig those rolling up their sleeve
Before anyone starts branding Anti anything .. I believe in inoculations .. don't confuse that shit you keep pumping into your arms in the same class
I was on an actual clinical trial for Covid vaccines. I'm human.
Please don't talk bullshit.
Pleased for you I'm also in a trial one that should have been ran by those trialing you .. researched was pulled on animal trials and that isn't BS "You mean the trials were ended because they were moving on? Yeah, that happens. With everything. And then it goes through human trials. Which it did. Yup it's a conspiracy. Oh noes. | |||
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people.
Another jab I will be avoiding like the plague. No jabs in over 30 years and still alive... how is that even possible? Lolz
Our immune systems are relatively stronger, whilst younger. As we age, they decline, like the rest of your body. The past that each of us have had, are not the same as our futures.
That's correct but you don't see me running around like a headless chicken... we age, we die. It is life. Get over it.
"We age... We die"
When we're blessed with so much intelligence and knowledge about how life can be improved, it seems reckless to not grasp potential and maximise its quality.
Indeed, anyone wanting the clot shot is welcome to it...plus the umpteen useless clot shot boosters for ever more.
You do realise that this thread isn't about the Covid vaccines?
Indeed, I do.
But...they are both mRNA 'vaccines '. They have that in common.
The alarming thing I've just read which for me does include Sars cov 2 to give IT the correct name is that while the OP is happy to boast that this trial was successful at the animal stage trial .. Sars cov 2 injections got pulled from animal trials .. tho Humans are Animals so I guess they just thought to guinea pig those rolling up their sleeve
Before anyone starts branding Anti anything .. I believe in inoculations .. don't confuse that shit you keep pumping into your arms in the same class
I was on an actual clinical trial for Covid vaccines. I'm human.
Please don't talk bullshit.
Pleased for you I'm also in a trial one that should have been ran by those trialing you .. researched was pulled on animal trials and that isn't BS
You mean the trials were ended because they were moving on?
Yeah, that happens. With everything.
And then it goes through human trials. Which it did.
Yup it's a conspiracy. Oh noes."Nada the trials were suspended because the Vacine turned on the animals immune system .. Ferrets were used they have a very similar immune system to humans .. mink were also culled for the same reason You mentioned conspiracy not I and I've not implied as such either.. trials are still ongoing till 2023 | |||
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people.
Another jab I will be avoiding like the plague. No jabs in over 30 years and still alive... how is that even possible? Lolz
Our immune systems are relatively stronger, whilst younger. As we age, they decline, like the rest of your body. The past that each of us have had, are not the same as our futures.
That's correct but you don't see me running around like a headless chicken... we age, we die. It is life. Get over it.
"We age... We die"
When we're blessed with so much intelligence and knowledge about how life can be improved, it seems reckless to not grasp potential and maximise its quality.
Indeed, anyone wanting the clot shot is welcome to it...plus the umpteen useless clot shot boosters for ever more.
You do realise that this thread isn't about the Covid vaccines?
Indeed, I do.
But...they are both mRNA 'vaccines '. They have that in common.
The alarming thing I've just read which for me does include Sars cov 2 to give IT the correct name is that while the OP is happy to boast that this trial was successful at the animal stage trial .. Sars cov 2 injections got pulled from animal trials .. tho Humans are Animals so I guess they just thought to guinea pig those rolling up their sleeve
Before anyone starts branding Anti anything .. I believe in inoculations .. don't confuse that shit you keep pumping into your arms in the same class
I was on an actual clinical trial for Covid vaccines. I'm human.
Please don't talk bullshit.
Pleased for you I'm also in a trial one that should have been ran by those trialing you .. researched was pulled on animal trials and that isn't BS
You mean the trials were ended because they were moving on?
Yeah, that happens. With everything.
And then it goes through human trials. Which it did.
Yup it's a conspiracy. Oh noes.
Nada the trials were suspended because the Vacine turned on the animals immune system .. Ferrets were used they have a very similar immune system to humans .. mink were also culled for the same reason
You mentioned conspiracy not I and I've not implied as such either.. trials are still ongoing till 2023
"I mean that's news to me. I was in one of the later trials and it ended in spring 2022. When I say later trial - it's not been approved in the UK yet. Your sources seem to have significant flaws. I might look into that if I were you | |||
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people.
Another jab I will be avoiding like the plague. No jabs in over 30 years and still alive... how is that even possible? Lolz
Our immune systems are relatively stronger, whilst younger. As we age, they decline, like the rest of your body. The past that each of us have had, are not the same as our futures.
That's correct but you don't see me running around like a headless chicken... we age, we die. It is life. Get over it.
"We age... We die"
When we're blessed with so much intelligence and knowledge about how life can be improved, it seems reckless to not grasp potential and maximise its quality.
Indeed, anyone wanting the clot shot is welcome to it...plus the umpteen useless clot shot boosters for ever more.
You do realise that this thread isn't about the Covid vaccines?
Indeed, I do.
But...they are both mRNA 'vaccines '. They have that in common.
The alarming thing I've just read which for me does include Sars cov 2 to give IT the correct name is that while the OP is happy to boast that this trial was successful at the animal stage trial .. Sars cov 2 injections got pulled from animal trials .. tho Humans are Animals so I guess they just thought to guinea pig those rolling up their sleeve
Before anyone starts branding Anti anything .. I believe in inoculations .. don't confuse that shit you keep pumping into your arms in the same class
I was on an actual clinical trial for Covid vaccines. I'm human.
Please don't talk bullshit.
Pleased for you I'm also in a trial one that should have been ran by those trialing you .. researched was pulled on animal trials and that isn't BS
You mean the trials were ended because they were moving on?
Yeah, that happens. With everything.
And then it goes through human trials. Which it did.
Yup it's a conspiracy. Oh noes.
Nada the trials were suspended because the Vacine turned on the animals immune system .. Ferrets were used they have a very similar immune system to humans .. mink were also culled for the same reason
You mentioned conspiracy not I and I've not implied as such either.. trials are still ongoing till 2023
I mean that's news to me. I was in one of the later trials and it ended in spring 2022.
When I say later trial - it's not been approved in the UK yet.
Your sources seem to have significant flaws. I might look into that if I were you "Yes your fast tracked trial .. because of the emergency status and BS pandemic criteria .. let's not divert from what you are stating tho .. yes your rushed trial may well have ended .. mine hasn't and in the normal world human trials last 3 years then all information collected | |||
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people.
Another jab I will be avoiding like the plague. No jabs in over 30 years and still alive... how is that even possible? Lolz
Our immune systems are relatively stronger, whilst younger. As we age, they decline, like the rest of your body. The past that each of us have had, are not the same as our futures.
That's correct but you don't see me running around like a headless chicken... we age, we die. It is life. Get over it.
"We age... We die"
When we're blessed with so much intelligence and knowledge about how life can be improved, it seems reckless to not grasp potential and maximise its quality.
Indeed, anyone wanting the clot shot is welcome to it...plus the umpteen useless clot shot boosters for ever more.
You do realise that this thread isn't about the Covid vaccines?
Indeed, I do.
But...they are both mRNA 'vaccines '. They have that in common.
The alarming thing I've just read which for me does include Sars cov 2 to give IT the correct name is that while the OP is happy to boast that this trial was successful at the animal stage trial .. Sars cov 2 injections got pulled from animal trials .. tho Humans are Animals so I guess they just thought to guinea pig those rolling up their sleeve
Before anyone starts branding Anti anything .. I believe in inoculations .. don't confuse that shit you keep pumping into your arms in the same class
I was on an actual clinical trial for Covid vaccines. I'm human.
Please don't talk bullshit.
Pleased for you I'm also in a trial one that should have been ran by those trialing you .. researched was pulled on animal trials and that isn't BS
You mean the trials were ended because they were moving on?
Yeah, that happens. With everything.
And then it goes through human trials. Which it did.
Yup it's a conspiracy. Oh noes.
Nada the trials were suspended because the Vacine turned on the animals immune system .. Ferrets were used they have a very similar immune system to humans .. mink were also culled for the same reason
You mentioned conspiracy not I and I've not implied as such either.. trials are still ongoing till 2023
I mean that's news to me. I was in one of the later trials and it ended in spring 2022.
When I say later trial - it's not been approved in the UK yet.
Your sources seem to have significant flaws. I might look into that if I were you
Yes your fast tracked trial .. because of the emergency status and BS pandemic criteria .. let's not divert from what you are stating tho .. yes your rushed trial may well have ended .. mine hasn't and in the normal world human trials last 3 years then all information collected "Ok. I'm glad you think your fringe worldview is normal. Good for you. | |||
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"Indeed, anyone wanting the clot shot is welcome to it...plus the umpteen useless clot shot boosters for ever more. " Well you've obviously had a shot, a shot that's turned you into a clot.  | |||
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people.
Another jab I will be avoiding like the plague. No jabs in over 30 years and still alive... how is that even possible? Lolz
Our immune systems are relatively stronger, whilst younger. As we age, they decline, like the rest of your body. The past that each of us have had, are not the same as our futures.
That's correct but you don't see me running around like a headless chicken... we age, we die. It is life. Get over it.
"We age... We die"
When we're blessed with so much intelligence and knowledge about how life can be improved, it seems reckless to not grasp potential and maximise its quality.
Indeed, anyone wanting the clot shot is welcome to it...plus the umpteen useless clot shot boosters for ever more.
You do realise that this thread isn't about the Covid vaccines?
Indeed, I do.
But...they are both mRNA 'vaccines '. They have that in common.
The alarming thing I've just read which for me does include Sars cov 2 to give IT the correct name is that while the OP is happy to boast that this trial was successful at the animal stage trial .. Sars cov 2 injections got pulled from animal trials .. tho Humans are Animals so I guess they just thought to guinea pig those rolling up their sleeve
Before anyone starts branding Anti anything .. I believe in inoculations .. don't confuse that shit you keep pumping into your arms in the same class
I was on an actual clinical trial for Covid vaccines. I'm human.
Please don't talk bullshit.
Pleased for you I'm also in a trial one that should have been ran by those trialing you .. researched was pulled on animal trials and that isn't BS
You mean the trials were ended because they were moving on?
Yeah, that happens. With everything.
And then it goes through human trials. Which it did.
Yup it's a conspiracy. Oh noes.
Nada the trials were suspended because the Vacine turned on the animals immune system .. Ferrets were used they have a very similar immune system to humans .. mink were also culled for the same reason
You mentioned conspiracy not I and I've not implied as such either.. trials are still ongoing till 2023
I mean that's news to me. I was in one of the later trials and it ended in spring 2022.
When I say later trial - it's not been approved in the UK yet.
Your sources seem to have significant flaws. I might look into that if I were you
Yes your fast tracked trial .. because of the emergency status and BS pandemic criteria .. let's not divert from what you are stating tho .. yes your rushed trial may well have ended .. mine hasn't and in the normal world human trials last 3 years then all information collected "I agree mate | |||
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people.
Another jab I will be avoiding like the plague. No jabs in over 30 years and still alive... how is that even possible? Lolz
Our immune systems are relatively stronger, whilst younger. As we age, they decline, like the rest of your body. The past that each of us have had, are not the same as our futures.
That's correct but you don't see me running around like a headless chicken... we age, we die. It is life. Get over it.
"We age... We die"
When we're blessed with so much intelligence and knowledge about how life can be improved, it seems reckless to not grasp potential and maximise its quality.
Indeed, anyone wanting the clot shot is welcome to it...plus the umpteen useless clot shot boosters for ever more.
You do realise that this thread isn't about the Covid vaccines?
Indeed, I do.
But...they are both mRNA 'vaccines '. They have that in common.
The alarming thing I've just read which for me does include Sars cov 2 to give IT the correct name is that while the OP is happy to boast that this trial was successful at the animal stage trial .. Sars cov 2 injections got pulled from animal trials .. tho Humans are Animals so I guess they just thought to guinea pig those rolling up their sleeve
Before anyone starts branding Anti anything .. I believe in inoculations .. don't confuse that shit you keep pumping into your arms in the same class
I was on an actual clinical trial for Covid vaccines. I'm human.
Please don't talk bullshit.
Pleased for you I'm also in a trial one that should have been ran by those trialing you .. researched was pulled on animal trials and that isn't BS
You mean the trials were ended because they were moving on?
Yeah, that happens. With everything.
And then it goes through human trials. Which it did.
Yup it's a conspiracy. Oh noes.
Nada the trials were suspended because the Vacine turned on the animals immune system .. Ferrets were used they have a very similar immune system to humans .. mink were also culled for the same reason
You mentioned conspiracy not I and I've not implied as such either.. trials are still ongoing till 2023
I mean that's news to me. I was in one of the later trials and it ended in spring 2022.
When I say later trial - it's not been approved in the UK yet.
Your sources seem to have significant flaws. I might look into that if I were you
Yes your fast tracked trial .. because of the emergency status and BS pandemic criteria .. let's not divert from what you are stating tho .. yes your rushed trial may well have ended .. mine hasn't and in the normal world human trials last 3 years then all information collected
Ok. I'm glad you think your fringe worldview is normal. Good for you."That's laughable how could you possibly know what I think .. and I can assure you my opinion isn't a fringed view on the world .. but I guess wearing your Sars Cov 2 mrna injection trial rose coloured spectackles has left you blinkered I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.. bit like wearing a mask .. I couldn't give a hoot what type of sanitary pad you shove on your face just don't expect me too just to make you feel better | |||
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people.
Another jab I will be avoiding like the plague. No jabs in over 30 years and still alive... how is that even possible? Lolz
Our immune systems are relatively stronger, whilst younger. As we age, they decline, like the rest of your body. The past that each of us have had, are not the same as our futures.
That's correct but you don't see me running around like a headless chicken... we age, we die. It is life. Get over it.
"We age... We die"
When we're blessed with so much intelligence and knowledge about how life can be improved, it seems reckless to not grasp potential and maximise its quality.
Indeed, anyone wanting the clot shot is welcome to it...plus the umpteen useless clot shot boosters for ever more.
You do realise that this thread isn't about the Covid vaccines?
Indeed, I do.
But...they are both mRNA 'vaccines '. They have that in common.
The alarming thing I've just read which for me does include Sars cov 2 to give IT the correct name is that while the OP is happy to boast that this trial was successful at the animal stage trial .. Sars cov 2 injections got pulled from animal trials .. tho Humans are Animals so I guess they just thought to guinea pig those rolling up their sleeve
Before anyone starts branding Anti anything .. I believe in inoculations .. don't confuse that shit you keep pumping into your arms in the same class
I was on an actual clinical trial for Covid vaccines. I'm human.
Please don't talk bullshit.
Pleased for you I'm also in a trial one that should have been ran by those trialing you .. researched was pulled on animal trials and that isn't BS
You mean the trials were ended because they were moving on?
Yeah, that happens. With everything.
And then it goes through human trials. Which it did.
Yup it's a conspiracy. Oh noes.
Nada the trials were suspended because the Vacine turned on the animals immune system .. Ferrets were used they have a very similar immune system to humans .. mink were also culled for the same reason
You mentioned conspiracy not I and I've not implied as such either.. trials are still ongoing till 2023
I mean that's news to me. I was in one of the later trials and it ended in spring 2022.
When I say later trial - it's not been approved in the UK yet.
Your sources seem to have significant flaws. I might look into that if I were you
Yes your fast tracked trial .. because of the emergency status and BS pandemic criteria .. let's not divert from what you are stating tho .. yes your rushed trial may well have ended .. mine hasn't and in the normal world human trials last 3 years then all information collected
Ok. I'm glad you think your fringe worldview is normal. Good for you.
That's laughable how could you possibly know what I think .. and I can assure you my opinion isn't a fringed view on the world .. but I guess wearing your Sars Cov 2 mrna injection trial rose coloured spectackles has left you blinkered
I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.. bit like wearing a mask .. I couldn't give a hoot what type of sanitary pad you shove on your face just don't expect me too just to make you feel better
"Sure. We'll see what outcomes look like in a few years. I'm quite happy to be part of an observational study. | |||
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people.
Another jab I will be avoiding like the plague. No jabs in over 30 years and still alive... how is that even possible? Lolz
Our immune systems are relatively stronger, whilst younger. As we age, they decline, like the rest of your body. The past that each of us have had, are not the same as our futures.
That's correct but you don't see me running around like a headless chicken... we age, we die. It is life. Get over it.
"We age... We die"
When we're blessed with so much intelligence and knowledge about how life can be improved, it seems reckless to not grasp potential and maximise its quality.
Indeed, anyone wanting the clot shot is welcome to it...plus the umpteen useless clot shot boosters for ever more.
You do realise that this thread isn't about the Covid vaccines?
Indeed, I do.
But...they are both mRNA 'vaccines '. They have that in common.
The alarming thing I've just read which for me does include Sars cov 2 to give IT the correct name is that while the OP is happy to boast that this trial was successful at the animal stage trial .. Sars cov 2 injections got pulled from animal trials .. tho Humans are Animals so I guess they just thought to guinea pig those rolling up their sleeve
Before anyone starts branding Anti anything .. I believe in inoculations .. don't confuse that shit you keep pumping into your arms in the same class
I was on an actual clinical trial for Covid vaccines. I'm human.
Please don't talk bullshit.
Pleased for you I'm also in a trial one that should have been ran by those trialing you .. researched was pulled on animal trials and that isn't BS
You mean the trials were ended because they were moving on?
Yeah, that happens. With everything.
And then it goes through human trials. Which it did.
Yup it's a conspiracy. Oh noes.
Nada the trials were suspended because the Vacine turned on the animals immune system .. Ferrets were used they have a very similar immune system to humans .. mink were also culled for the same reason
You mentioned conspiracy not I and I've not implied as such either.. trials are still ongoing till 2023
I mean that's news to me. I was in one of the later trials and it ended in spring 2022.
When I say later trial - it's not been approved in the UK yet.
Your sources seem to have significant flaws. I might look into that if I were you
Yes your fast tracked trial .. because of the emergency status and BS pandemic criteria .. let's not divert from what you are stating tho .. yes your rushed trial may well have ended .. mine hasn't and in the normal world human trials last 3 years then all information collected
Ok. I'm glad you think your fringe worldview is normal. Good for you.
That's laughable how could you possibly know what I think .. and I can assure you my opinion isn't a fringed view on the world .. but I guess wearing your Sars Cov 2 mrna injection trial rose coloured spectackles has left you blinkered
I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.. bit like wearing a mask .. I couldn't give a hoot what type of sanitary pad you shove on your face just don't expect me too just to make you feel better
"How could we know what you think? Tricky. It's not like you post it anywhere.....
There is so much ignorance of fact in just about everything you've posted so far.
Winston | |||
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"Sure. We'll see what outcomes look like in a few years. I'm quite happy to be part of an observational study." This is why I'm scared...we are all in the same boat sailing into oblivion.....only 3-5years time shall we see where we've sailed too....if the sails haven't fallen off by then...? | |||
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"Sure. We'll see what outcomes look like in a few years. I'm quite happy to be part of an observational study. This is why I'm scared...we are all in the same boat sailing into oblivion.....only 3-5years time shall we see where we've sailed too....if the sails haven't fallen off by then...?" What evidence or even evidenced hypothesis do you have of oblivion? Sure. Unicorns might rampage and destroy mankind, but let's talk in the realm of plausibility, not bullshit pulled from someone's arse. | |||
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" There is so much ignorance of fact in just about everything you've posted so far. Winston " I'm so sorry but ignorance is bliss please read back over some of your comments/statements they are extremely ignorant and arrogant to the bigger picture which is 5year away we are no way clear of what is going to happen we can't just pretend with our heads in the sand...........or is that where I'm going wrong? Should I just pretend we are all going to be alright try not to think about the future forget the past live for now in this moment without trying to think about what's going to happen in 3-5years.....? | |||
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"Almost 63 and still going strong without a single jab ….wowever? Yep …. what about child hood vaccinations.. hep b etc?? Nope never had any apart from the polio thing on a sugar cube I'd imagine you had your vaccines as a baby and the ones at school
Nope … I caught measles mumps and chicken pox never had any jabs …. Oooooo a tetanus for a dog bite but that’s it … maybe the reason why I’m fit and healthy on no medication and no health issues at 63
Well perhaps thank the rest of us.. successful vaccination policies have greatly reduced the prevalence of many potentially lethal pathogens to the point that you would be very unlikely to contract them.
She really shouldn't have to thank anyone. Everyone has a choice what makes you think that yours is the superior one "I don’t need to thank anyone except my immune system | |||
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" What evidence or even evidenced hypothesis do you have of oblivion? Sure. Unicorns might rampage and destroy mankind, but let's talk in the realm of plausibility, not bullshit pulled from someone's arse." Again ignorance is bliss I just want to pretend like you but I'm struggling? I think I'm in the real world but your just pretending, if you know what I mean, this isn't going to go away my fear is real I can't pretend everything is going to be alright anymore I've seen too much I've lost friends who have died suddenly without a short illness this isn't going to stop anytime soon | |||
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" What evidence or even evidenced hypothesis do you have of oblivion? Sure. Unicorns might rampage and destroy mankind, but let's talk in the realm of plausibility, not bullshit pulled from someone's arse. Again ignorance is bliss I just want to pretend like you but I'm struggling? I think I'm in the real world but your just pretending, if you know what I mean, this isn't going to go away my fear is real I can't pretend everything is going to be alright anymore I've seen too much I've lost friends who have died suddenly without a short illness this isn't going to stop anytime soon" I'm not pretending anything. I'm asking for evidence for your position. Do you have any reason to suppose that there is oblivion coming? What hypothesis do you have that would support such a conclusion? | |||
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"I'm not pretending anything. I'm asking for evidence for your position. Do you have any reason to suppose that there is oblivion coming? What hypothesis do you have that would support such a conclusion?" That we have all been experimented on.......that we are all in this experiment all without a clue all guessing what will happen I'm sorry but we can't ignore the vaccine injured and we can't ignore how they are being ignored we can't ignore the ignorance that people have been ignoring the fact the vaccine injured are being ignored......its as if no one wants to know so ignore it and it may go away just keep ignoring it and pretending there aren't any vaccine injuries there never has been.....the fact that the vaccine injured are being covered up and hidden speaks volumes..... and now theres just unexplainable mysterious ailments which can't ever be anything to do with the vaccine cos it's just not talked about.....lets just all keep pretending | |||
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"I'm not pretending anything. I'm asking for evidence for your position. Do you have any reason to suppose that there is oblivion coming? What hypothesis do you have that would support such a conclusion? That we have all been experimented on.......that we are all in this experiment all without a clue all guessing what will happen I'm sorry but we can't ignore the vaccine injured and we can't ignore how they are being ignored we can't ignore the ignorance that people have been ignoring the fact the vaccine injured are being ignored......its as if no one wants to know so ignore it and it may go away just keep ignoring it and pretending there aren't any vaccine injuries there never has been.....the fact that the vaccine injured are being covered up and hidden speaks volumes..... and now theres just unexplainable mysterious ailments which can't ever be anything to do with the vaccine cos it's just not talked about.....lets just all keep pretending" I'm not pretending. I'm following the evidence. It appears we have different sources, and my sources indicate no cause for concern. There have been side effects, but they're rare, and the study processes were above board for those who engaged in them. However, there are some people who create fear porn for others to engage in, beginning with dishonesty about the process. It's unfortunate that influencers would profit from the aftermath of a global tragedy to further upset people with lies. I don't let their lies upset me, except insofar as they attempt to influence public policy. Because of course they do. | |||
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"I'm not pretending anything. I'm asking for evidence for your position. Do you have any reason to suppose that there is oblivion coming? What hypothesis do you have that would support such a conclusion? That we have all been experimented on.......that we are all in this experiment all without a clue all guessing what will happen I'm sorry but we can't ignore the vaccine injured and we can't ignore how they are being ignored we can't ignore the ignorance that people have been ignoring the fact the vaccine injured are being ignored......its as if no one wants to know so ignore it and it may go away just keep ignoring it and pretending there aren't any vaccine injuries there never has been.....the fact that the vaccine injured are being covered up and hidden speaks volumes..... and now theres just unexplainable mysterious ailments which can't ever be anything to do with the vaccine cos it's just not talked about.....lets just all keep pretending" I'm not sure where your views are coming from, but there's always one thing that puzzles me about posts like this. "the fact that the vaccine injured are being covered up and hidden speaks volumes" If this is true, how did you hear about it, how do know with absolute certainty it true, if its "all being covered up and hidden" I find it confusing. And illogical. Winston | |||
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"I'm not pretending anything. I'm asking for evidence for your position. Do you have any reason to suppose that there is oblivion coming? What hypothesis do you have that would support such a conclusion? That we have all been experimented on.......that we are all in this experiment all without a clue all guessing what will happen I'm sorry but we can't ignore the vaccine injured and we can't ignore how they are being ignored we can't ignore the ignorance that people have been ignoring the fact the vaccine injured are being ignored......its as if no one wants to know so ignore it and it may go away just keep ignoring it and pretending there aren't any vaccine injuries there never has been.....the fact that the vaccine injured are being covered up and hidden speaks volumes..... and now theres just unexplainable mysterious ailments which can't ever be anything to do with the vaccine cos it's just not talked about.....lets just all keep pretending I'm not sure where your views are coming from, but there's always one thing that puzzles me about posts like this. "the fact that the vaccine injured are being covered up and hidden speaks volumes" If this is true, how did you hear about it, how do know with absolute certainty it true, if its "all being covered up and hidden" I find it confusing. And illogical. Winston " It seems to me that the "vaccine injured" discussed online are in a different class of people to those I'm aware of who suffered serious side effects from vaccines. I've never seen them discussed together. What concerns me - and I speak as a family member of someone whose life nearly came to an end as a result of a vanishingly rare vaccine side effect 30-odd years ago - is that this undermines the category not discussed online. That the seeming urban legend of "vaccine injured" will outcompete those whose lives are changed, that the internet stories will make their suffering less legitimate. | |||
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"I'm not pretending anything. I'm asking for evidence for your position. Do you have any reason to suppose that there is oblivion coming? What hypothesis do you have that would support such a conclusion? That we have all been experimented on.......that we are all in this experiment all without a clue all guessing what will happen I'm sorry but we can't ignore the vaccine injured and we can't ignore how they are being ignored we can't ignore the ignorance that people have been ignoring the fact the vaccine injured are being ignored......its as if no one wants to know so ignore it and it may go away just keep ignoring it and pretending there aren't any vaccine injuries there never has been.....the fact that the vaccine injured are being covered up and hidden speaks volumes..... and now theres just unexplainable mysterious ailments which can't ever be anything to do with the vaccine cos it's just not talked about.....lets just all keep pretending I'm not sure where your views are coming from, but there's always one thing that puzzles me about posts like this. "the fact that the vaccine injured are being covered up and hidden speaks volumes" If this is true, how did you hear about it, how do know with absolute certainty it true, if its "all being covered up and hidden" I find it confusing. And illogical. Winston It seems to me that the "vaccine injured" discussed online are in a different class of people to those I'm aware of who suffered serious side effects from vaccines. I've never seen them discussed together. What concerns me - and I speak as a family member of someone whose life nearly came to an end as a result of a vanishingly rare vaccine side effect 30-odd years ago - is that this undermines the category not discussed online. That the seeming urban legend of "vaccine injured" will outcompete those whose lives are changed, that the internet stories will make their suffering less legitimate. " Just seems to me the comments are mutually exclusive. "It's a big secret, it's all kept under cover, no-one knows about it, it's all being kept out of the media, etc." But you know all about it..... How? Winston | |||
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"I'm not pretending anything. I'm asking for evidence for your position. Do you have any reason to suppose that there is oblivion coming? What hypothesis do you have that would support such a conclusion? That we have all been experimented on.......that we are all in this experiment all without a clue all guessing what will happen I'm sorry but we can't ignore the vaccine injured and we can't ignore how they are being ignored we can't ignore the ignorance that people have been ignoring the fact the vaccine injured are being ignored......its as if no one wants to know so ignore it and it may go away just keep ignoring it and pretending there aren't any vaccine injuries there never has been.....the fact that the vaccine injured are being covered up and hidden speaks volumes..... and now theres just unexplainable mysterious ailments which can't ever be anything to do with the vaccine cos it's just not talked about.....lets just all keep pretending I'm not sure where your views are coming from, but there's always one thing that puzzles me about posts like this. "the fact that the vaccine injured are being covered up and hidden speaks volumes" If this is true, how did you hear about it, how do know with absolute certainty it true, if its "all being covered up and hidden" I find it confusing. And illogical. Winston " Check out Brit Galvin, she is a perfect example. She has logged everything from day one. 62.1M views on TikTok. She is covid jab injured and had to move to Telegram just to get her story out, as Instagram and the rest kept calling her story misinformation. She was constantly blocked on MS Media for telling her true story. She even had metal objects sticking to her head in front of doctors who said they dont know why FFS. Its all on video! Check it. | |||
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"I'm not pretending anything. I'm asking for evidence for your position. Do you have any reason to suppose that there is oblivion coming? What hypothesis do you have that would support such a conclusion? That we have all been experimented on.......that we are all in this experiment all without a clue all guessing what will happen I'm sorry but we can't ignore the vaccine injured and we can't ignore how they are being ignored we can't ignore the ignorance that people have been ignoring the fact the vaccine injured are being ignored......its as if no one wants to know so ignore it and it may go away just keep ignoring it and pretending there aren't any vaccine injuries there never has been.....the fact that the vaccine injured are being covered up and hidden speaks volumes..... and now theres just unexplainable mysterious ailments which can't ever be anything to do with the vaccine cos it's just not talked about.....lets just all keep pretending I'm not sure where your views are coming from, but there's always one thing that puzzles me about posts like this. "the fact that the vaccine injured are being covered up and hidden speaks volumes" If this is true, how did you hear about it, how do know with absolute certainty it true, if its "all being covered up and hidden" I find it confusing. And illogical. Winston It seems to me that the "vaccine injured" discussed online are in a different class of people to those I'm aware of who suffered serious side effects from vaccines. I've never seen them discussed together. What concerns me - and I speak as a family member of someone whose life nearly came to an end as a result of a vanishingly rare vaccine side effect 30-odd years ago - is that this undermines the category not discussed online. That the seeming urban legend of "vaccine injured" will outcompete those whose lives are changed, that the internet stories will make their suffering less legitimate. Just seems to me the comments are mutually exclusive. "It's a big secret, it's all kept under cover, no-one knows about it, it's all being kept out of the media, etc." But you know all about it..... How? Winston " Oh that too. But I worry about the vanishingly tiny minority who have genuinely documented lasting side effects. That they're undermined by he said she said deep secrets stuff. | |||
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"I'm not pretending anything. I'm asking for evidence for your position. Do you have any reason to suppose that there is oblivion coming? What hypothesis do you have that would support such a conclusion? That we have all been experimented on.......that we are all in this experiment all without a clue all guessing what will happen I'm sorry but we can't ignore the vaccine injured and we can't ignore how they are being ignored we can't ignore the ignorance that people have been ignoring the fact the vaccine injured are being ignored......its as if no one wants to know so ignore it and it may go away just keep ignoring it and pretending there aren't any vaccine injuries there never has been.....the fact that the vaccine injured are being covered up and hidden speaks volumes..... and now theres just unexplainable mysterious ailments which can't ever be anything to do with the vaccine cos it's just not talked about.....lets just all keep pretending I'm not sure where your views are coming from, but there's always one thing that puzzles me about posts like this. "the fact that the vaccine injured are being covered up and hidden speaks volumes" If this is true, how did you hear about it, how do know with absolute certainty it true, if its "all being covered up and hidden" I find it confusing. And illogical. Winston Check out Brit Galvin, she is a perfect example. She has logged everything from day one. 62.1M views on TikTok. She is covid jab injured and had to move to Telegram just to get her story out, as Instagram and the rest kept calling her story misinformation. She was constantly blocked on MS Media for telling her true story. She even had metal objects sticking to her head in front of doctors who said they dont know why FFS. Its all on video! Check it." The vaccines turn you into............a magnet?
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"I'm not pretending anything. I'm asking for evidence for your position. Do you have any reason to suppose that there is oblivion coming? What hypothesis do you have that would support such a conclusion? That we have all been experimented on.......that we are all in this experiment all without a clue all guessing what will happen I'm sorry but we can't ignore the vaccine injured and we can't ignore how they are being ignored we can't ignore the ignorance that people have been ignoring the fact the vaccine injured are being ignored......its as if no one wants to know so ignore it and it may go away just keep ignoring it and pretending there aren't any vaccine injuries there never has been.....the fact that the vaccine injured are being covered up and hidden speaks volumes..... and now theres just unexplainable mysterious ailments which can't ever be anything to do with the vaccine cos it's just not talked about.....lets just all keep pretending I'm not sure where your views are coming from, but there's always one thing that puzzles me about posts like this. "the fact that the vaccine injured are being covered up and hidden speaks volumes" If this is true, how did you hear about it, how do know with absolute certainty it true, if its "all being covered up and hidden" I find it confusing. And illogical. Winston Check out Brit Galvin, she is a perfect example. She has logged everything from day one. 62.1M views on TikTok. She is covid jab injured and had to move to Telegram just to get her story out, as Instagram and the rest kept calling her story misinformation. She was constantly blocked on MS Media for telling her true story. She even had metal objects sticking to her head in front of doctors who said they dont know why FFS. Its all on video! Check it." Is that the same Brit Galvin who was interviewed by Alex Stein for his subscription website "Conspiracy Castle"? The same Alex Stein, who's one of the biggest anti-masker and anti-vaccine leaders in the United States of America? Coincidence possibly... Winston | |||
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"I'm not pretending anything. I'm asking for evidence for your position. Do you have any reason to suppose that there is oblivion coming? What hypothesis do you have that would support such a conclusion? That we have all been experimented on.......that we are all in this experiment all without a clue all guessing what will happen I'm sorry but we can't ignore the vaccine injured and we can't ignore how they are being ignored we can't ignore the ignorance that people have been ignoring the fact the vaccine injured are being ignored......its as if no one wants to know so ignore it and it may go away just keep ignoring it and pretending there aren't any vaccine injuries there never has been.....the fact that the vaccine injured are being covered up and hidden speaks volumes..... and now theres just unexplainable mysterious ailments which can't ever be anything to do with the vaccine cos it's just not talked about.....lets just all keep pretending I'm not sure where your views are coming from, but there's always one thing that puzzles me about posts like this. "the fact that the vaccine injured are being covered up and hidden speaks volumes" If this is true, how did you hear about it, how do know with absolute certainty it true, if its "all being covered up and hidden" I find it confusing. And illogical. Winston Check out Brit Galvin, she is a perfect example. She has logged everything from day one. 62.1M views on TikTok. She is covid jab injured and had to move to Telegram just to get her story out, as Instagram and the rest kept calling her story misinformation. She was constantly blocked on MS Media for telling her true story. She even had metal objects sticking to her head in front of doctors who said they dont know why FFS. Its all on video! Check it. The vaccines turn you into............a magnet?
Winston "If you really was as intelligent as you make out to be, you would check for yourself before putting a silly comment. | |||
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"I'm not pretending anything. I'm asking for evidence for your position. Do you have any reason to suppose that there is oblivion coming? What hypothesis do you have that would support such a conclusion? That we have all been experimented on.......that we are all in this experiment all without a clue all guessing what will happen I'm sorry but we can't ignore the vaccine injured and we can't ignore how they are being ignored we can't ignore the ignorance that people have been ignoring the fact the vaccine injured are being ignored......its as if no one wants to know so ignore it and it may go away just keep ignoring it and pretending there aren't any vaccine injuries there never has been.....the fact that the vaccine injured are being covered up and hidden speaks volumes..... and now theres just unexplainable mysterious ailments which can't ever be anything to do with the vaccine cos it's just not talked about.....lets just all keep pretending I'm not sure where your views are coming from, but there's always one thing that puzzles me about posts like this. "the fact that the vaccine injured are being covered up and hidden speaks volumes" If this is true, how did you hear about it, how do know with absolute certainty it true, if its "all being covered up and hidden" I find it confusing. And illogical. Winston Check out Brit Galvin, she is a perfect example. She has logged everything from day one. 62.1M views on TikTok. She is covid jab injured and had to move to Telegram just to get her story out, as Instagram and the rest kept calling her story misinformation. She was constantly blocked on MS Media for telling her true story. She even had metal objects sticking to her head in front of doctors who said they dont know why FFS. Its all on video! Check it. The vaccines turn you into............a magnet?
Winston "Yeah that's been a thing for awhile. I'd love to know the plausible biological mechanism for it. Because presumably we need to have... Basic science? Like, these are the plausible reactions that a human body might have. Some of this stuff just sounds like "vaccines evil therefore magic" I just want some basic biology. | |||
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"I'm not pretending anything. I'm asking for evidence for your position. Do you have any reason to suppose that there is oblivion coming? What hypothesis do you have that would support such a conclusion? That we have all been experimented on.......that we are all in this experiment all without a clue all guessing what will happen I'm sorry but we can't ignore the vaccine injured and we can't ignore how they are being ignored we can't ignore the ignorance that people have been ignoring the fact the vaccine injured are being ignored......its as if no one wants to know so ignore it and it may go away just keep ignoring it and pretending there aren't any vaccine injuries there never has been.....the fact that the vaccine injured are being covered up and hidden speaks volumes..... and now theres just unexplainable mysterious ailments which can't ever be anything to do with the vaccine cos it's just not talked about.....lets just all keep pretending I'm not sure where your views are coming from, but there's always one thing that puzzles me about posts like this. "the fact that the vaccine injured are being covered up and hidden speaks volumes" If this is true, how did you hear about it, how do know with absolute certainty it true, if its "all being covered up and hidden" I find it confusing. And illogical. Winston Check out Brit Galvin, she is a perfect example. She has logged everything from day one. 62.1M views on TikTok. She is covid jab injured and had to move to Telegram just to get her story out, as Instagram and the rest kept calling her story misinformation. She was constantly blocked on MS Media for telling her true story. She even had metal objects sticking to her head in front of doctors who said they dont know why FFS. Its all on video! Check it. The vaccines turn you into............a magnet?
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If you really was as intelligent as you make out to be, you would check for yourself before putting a silly comment."What makes you think I haven't checked it out? Bit presumptuous there...... I watched her saying "look, metal things stick to me!" I watched her place metal things on her face. And I watched them fall off. I'll ask it again. "The vaccines turn you into............a magnet?" In the words of J MacEnroe, you cannot be serious....... Winston | |||
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"I'm not pretending anything. I'm asking for evidence for your position. Do you have any reason to suppose that there is oblivion coming? What hypothesis do you have that would support such a conclusion? That we have all been experimented on.......that we are all in this experiment all without a clue all guessing what will happen I'm sorry but we can't ignore the vaccine injured and we can't ignore how they are being ignored we can't ignore the ignorance that people have been ignoring the fact the vaccine injured are being ignored......its as if no one wants to know so ignore it and it may go away just keep ignoring it and pretending there aren't any vaccine injuries there never has been.....the fact that the vaccine injured are being covered up and hidden speaks volumes..... and now theres just unexplainable mysterious ailments which can't ever be anything to do with the vaccine cos it's just not talked about.....lets just all keep pretending I'm not sure where your views are coming from, but there's always one thing that puzzles me about posts like this. "the fact that the vaccine injured are being covered up and hidden speaks volumes" If this is true, how did you hear about it, how do know with absolute certainty it true, if its "all being covered up and hidden" I find it confusing. And illogical. Winston Check out Brit Galvin, she is a perfect example. She has logged everything from day one. 62.1M views on TikTok. She is covid jab injured and had to move to Telegram just to get her story out, as Instagram and the rest kept calling her story misinformation. She was constantly blocked on MS Media for telling her true story. She even had metal objects sticking to her head in front of doctors who said they dont know why FFS. Its all on video! Check it. The vaccines turn you into............a magnet?
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If you really was as intelligent as you make out to be, you would check for yourself before putting a silly comment."I've looked into it. I see a grifter spouting nonsense. | |||
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"I'm not pretending anything. I'm asking for evidence for your position. Do you have any reason to suppose that there is oblivion coming? What hypothesis do you have that would support such a conclusion? That we have all been experimented on.......that we are all in this experiment all without a clue all guessing what will happen I'm sorry but we can't ignore the vaccine injured and we can't ignore how they are being ignored we can't ignore the ignorance that people have been ignoring the fact the vaccine injured are being ignored......its as if no one wants to know so ignore it and it may go away just keep ignoring it and pretending there aren't any vaccine injuries there never has been.....the fact that the vaccine injured are being covered up and hidden speaks volumes..... and now theres just unexplainable mysterious ailments which can't ever be anything to do with the vaccine cos it's just not talked about.....lets just all keep pretending I'm not sure where your views are coming from, but there's always one thing that puzzles me about posts like this. "the fact that the vaccine injured are being covered up and hidden speaks volumes" If this is true, how did you hear about it, how do know with absolute certainty it true, if its "all being covered up and hidden" I find it confusing. And illogical. Winston Check out Brit Galvin, she is a perfect example. She has logged everything from day one. 62.1M views on TikTok. She is covid jab injured and had to move to Telegram just to get her story out, as Instagram and the rest kept calling her story misinformation. She was constantly blocked on MS Media for telling her true story. She even had metal objects sticking to her head in front of doctors who said they dont know why FFS. Its all on video! Check it. Is that the same Brit Galvin who was interviewed by Alex Stein for his subscription website "Conspiracy Castle"? The same Alex Stein, who's one of the biggest anti-masker and anti-vaccine leaders in the United States of America? Coincidence possibly... Winston " So your saying Brit Galvin had to resort going to a conspiracy theorist person to get her story across?? Wonder why she would do that? Maybe because she wasnt able to get her story out to the people, through the main stream. Your proving the point of the jab injured getting covered up. She has documented Everything she has gone through since her jab. Dont mock it until you know her story. Its really quite sad, she has a family. | |||
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"I'm not pretending anything. I'm asking for evidence for your position. Do you have any reason to suppose that there is oblivion coming? What hypothesis do you have that would support such a conclusion? That we have all been experimented on.......that we are all in this experiment all without a clue all guessing what will happen I'm sorry but we can't ignore the vaccine injured and we can't ignore how they are being ignored we can't ignore the ignorance that people have been ignoring the fact the vaccine injured are being ignored......its as if no one wants to know so ignore it and it may go away just keep ignoring it and pretending there aren't any vaccine injuries there never has been.....the fact that the vaccine injured are being covered up and hidden speaks volumes..... and now theres just unexplainable mysterious ailments which can't ever be anything to do with the vaccine cos it's just not talked about.....lets just all keep pretending I'm not sure where your views are coming from, but there's always one thing that puzzles me about posts like this. "the fact that the vaccine injured are being covered up and hidden speaks volumes" If this is true, how did you hear about it, how do know with absolute certainty it true, if its "all being covered up and hidden" I find it confusing. And illogical. Winston Check out Brit Galvin, she is a perfect example. She has logged everything from day one. 62.1M views on TikTok. She is covid jab injured and had to move to Telegram just to get her story out, as Instagram and the rest kept calling her story misinformation. She was constantly blocked on MS Media for telling her true story. She even had metal objects sticking to her head in front of doctors who said they dont know why FFS. Its all on video! Check it. The vaccines turn you into............a magnet?
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"I'm not pretending anything. I'm asking for evidence for your position. Do you have any reason to suppose that there is oblivion coming? What hypothesis do you have that would support such a conclusion? That we have all been experimented on.......that we are all in this experiment all without a clue all guessing what will happen I'm sorry but we can't ignore the vaccine injured and we can't ignore how they are being ignored we can't ignore the ignorance that people have been ignoring the fact the vaccine injured are being ignored......its as if no one wants to know so ignore it and it may go away just keep ignoring it and pretending there aren't any vaccine injuries there never has been.....the fact that the vaccine injured are being covered up and hidden speaks volumes..... and now theres just unexplainable mysterious ailments which can't ever be anything to do with the vaccine cos it's just not talked about.....lets just all keep pretending I'm not sure where your views are coming from, but there's always one thing that puzzles me about posts like this. "the fact that the vaccine injured are being covered up and hidden speaks volumes" If this is true, how did you hear about it, how do know with absolute certainty it true, if its "all being covered up and hidden" I find it confusing. And illogical. Winston Check out Brit Galvin, she is a perfect example. She has logged everything from day one. 62.1M views on TikTok. She is covid jab injured and had to move to Telegram just to get her story out, as Instagram and the rest kept calling her story misinformation. She was constantly blocked on MS Media for telling her true story. She even had metal objects sticking to her head in front of doctors who said they dont know why FFS. Its all on video! Check it. The vaccines turn you into............a magnet?
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If you really was as intelligent as you make out to be, you would check for yourself before putting a silly comment.
I've looked into it. I see a grifter spouting nonsense.
Wow. A grifter. God have mercy "If he existed, he should. Someone trying to earn money by faking an illness and preying on the fears of the gullible is the lowest of the low. | |||
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"I'm not pretending anything. I'm asking for evidence for your position. Do you have any reason to suppose that there is oblivion coming? What hypothesis do you have that would support such a conclusion? That we have all been experimented on.......that we are all in this experiment all without a clue all guessing what will happen I'm sorry but we can't ignore the vaccine injured and we can't ignore how they are being ignored we can't ignore the ignorance that people have been ignoring the fact the vaccine injured are being ignored......its as if no one wants to know so ignore it and it may go away just keep ignoring it and pretending there aren't any vaccine injuries there never has been.....the fact that the vaccine injured are being covered up and hidden speaks volumes..... and now theres just unexplainable mysterious ailments which can't ever be anything to do with the vaccine cos it's just not talked about.....lets just all keep pretending I'm not sure where your views are coming from, but there's always one thing that puzzles me about posts like this. "the fact that the vaccine injured are being covered up and hidden speaks volumes" If this is true, how did you hear about it, how do know with absolute certainty it true, if its "all being covered up and hidden" I find it confusing. And illogical. Winston Check out Brit Galvin, she is a perfect example. She has logged everything from day one. 62.1M views on TikTok. She is covid jab injured and had to move to Telegram just to get her story out, as Instagram and the rest kept calling her story misinformation. She was constantly blocked on MS Media for telling her true story. She even had metal objects sticking to her head in front of doctors who said they dont know why FFS. Its all on video! Check it. The vaccines turn you into............a magnet?
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If you really was as intelligent as you make out to be, you would check for yourself before putting a silly comment.
I've looked into it. I see a grifter spouting nonsense.
Wow. A grifter. God have mercy
If he existed, he should.
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"I'm not pretending anything. I'm asking for evidence for your position. Do you have any reason to suppose that there is oblivion coming? What hypothesis do you have that would support such a conclusion? That we have all been experimented on.......that we are all in this experiment all without a clue all guessing what will happen I'm sorry but we can't ignore the vaccine injured and we can't ignore how they are being ignored we can't ignore the ignorance that people have been ignoring the fact the vaccine injured are being ignored......its as if no one wants to know so ignore it and it may go away just keep ignoring it and pretending there aren't any vaccine injuries there never has been.....the fact that the vaccine injured are being covered up and hidden speaks volumes..... and now theres just unexplainable mysterious ailments which can't ever be anything to do with the vaccine cos it's just not talked about.....lets just all keep pretending I'm not sure where your views are coming from, but there's always one thing that puzzles me about posts like this. "the fact that the vaccine injured are being covered up and hidden speaks volumes" If this is true, how did you hear about it, how do know with absolute certainty it true, if its "all being covered up and hidden" I find it confusing. And illogical. Winston Check out Brit Galvin, she is a perfect example. She has logged everything from day one. 62.1M views on TikTok. She is covid jab injured and had to move to Telegram just to get her story out, as Instagram and the rest kept calling her story misinformation. She was constantly blocked on MS Media for telling her true story. She even had metal objects sticking to her head in front of doctors who said they dont know why FFS. Its all on video! Check it. The vaccines turn you into............a magnet?
Winston
If you really was as intelligent as you make out to be, you would check for yourself before putting a silly comment.
I've looked into it. I see a grifter spouting nonsense.
Wow. A grifter. God have mercy
If he existed, he should.
Someone trying to earn money by faking an illness and preying on the fears of the gullible is the lowest of the low.
Very true, but how do you know she is? You seem 1000% sure. How can you be so?"Ok, there's a remote possibility I'm wrong. However, there's no known biological mechanism to support the claims she makes. It's not a tall order to make. How, with all we know about the human body and how it interacts with anything in the known universe, might this happen? I'm not asking for a *proven* mechanism. I'm asking for a *plausible* mechanism. In the absence of anything being even remotely possible as a way for this to happen, it's rational to draw the conclusion it didn't happen. Go ahead, prove me wrong. Plausible biological mechanism that would produce this specific side effect. Given she's done such a great job sharing her plight, surely it'll be easy. | |||
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"I'm not pretending anything. I'm asking for evidence for your position. Do you have any reason to suppose that there is oblivion coming? What hypothesis do you have that would support such a conclusion? That we have all been experimented on.......that we are all in this experiment all without a clue all guessing what will happen I'm sorry but we can't ignore the vaccine injured and we can't ignore how they are being ignored we can't ignore the ignorance that people have been ignoring the fact the vaccine injured are being ignored......its as if no one wants to know so ignore it and it may go away just keep ignoring it and pretending there aren't any vaccine injuries there never has been.....the fact that the vaccine injured are being covered up and hidden speaks volumes..... and now theres just unexplainable mysterious ailments which can't ever be anything to do with the vaccine cos it's just not talked about.....lets just all keep pretending I'm not sure where your views are coming from, but there's always one thing that puzzles me about posts like this. "the fact that the vaccine injured are being covered up and hidden speaks volumes" If this is true, how did you hear about it, how do know with absolute certainty it true, if its "all being covered up and hidden" I find it confusing. And illogical. Winston Check out Brit Galvin, she is a perfect example. She has logged everything from day one. 62.1M views on TikTok. She is covid jab injured and had to move to Telegram just to get her story out, as Instagram and the rest kept calling her story misinformation. She was constantly blocked on MS Media for telling her true story. She even had metal objects sticking to her head in front of doctors who said they dont know why FFS. Its all on video! Check it. The vaccines turn you into............a magnet?
Winston
If you really was as intelligent as you make out to be, you would check for yourself before putting a silly comment.
I've looked into it. I see a grifter spouting nonsense.
Wow. A grifter. God have mercy
If he existed, he should.
Someone trying to earn money by faking an illness and preying on the fears of the gullible is the lowest of the low.
Very true, but how do you know she is? You seem 1000% sure. How can you be so?
Ok, there's a remote possibility I'm wrong.
However, there's no known biological mechanism to support the claims she makes. It's not a tall order to make. How, with all we know about the human body and how it interacts with anything in the known universe, might this happen?
I'm not asking for a *proven* mechanism. I'm asking for a *plausible* mechanism.
In the absence of anything being even remotely possible as a way for this to happen, it's rational to draw the conclusion it didn't happen.
Go ahead, prove me wrong. Plausible biological mechanism that would produce this specific side effect. Given she's done such a great job sharing her plight, surely it'll be easy.
""However, there's no known biological mechanism to support the claims she makes. It's not a tall order to make" The doctors theselves dont know!! Never mind us! All we do know from Brittany Galvin is, she has documented everything since her jab injury. Metal sticking to her was one of them. Like I said, she did it in front of doctors and they was speechless. | |||
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"I'm not pretending anything. I'm asking for evidence for your position. Do you have any reason to suppose that there is oblivion coming? What hypothesis do you have that would support such a conclusion? That we have all been experimented on.......that we are all in this experiment all without a clue all guessing what will happen I'm sorry but we can't ignore the vaccine injured and we can't ignore how they are being ignored we can't ignore the ignorance that people have been ignoring the fact the vaccine injured are being ignored......its as if no one wants to know so ignore it and it may go away just keep ignoring it and pretending there aren't any vaccine injuries there never has been.....the fact that the vaccine injured are being covered up and hidden speaks volumes..... and now theres just unexplainable mysterious ailments which can't ever be anything to do with the vaccine cos it's just not talked about.....lets just all keep pretending I'm not sure where your views are coming from, but there's always one thing that puzzles me about posts like this. "the fact that the vaccine injured are being covered up and hidden speaks volumes" If this is true, how did you hear about it, how do know with absolute certainty it true, if its "all being covered up and hidden" I find it confusing. And illogical. Winston Check out Brit Galvin, she is a perfect example. She has logged everything from day one. 62.1M views on TikTok. She is covid jab injured and had to move to Telegram just to get her story out, as Instagram and the rest kept calling her story misinformation. She was constantly blocked on MS Media for telling her true story. She even had metal objects sticking to her head in front of doctors who said they dont know why FFS. Its all on video! Check it. The vaccines turn you into............a magnet?
Winston
If you really was as intelligent as you make out to be, you would check for yourself before putting a silly comment.
I've looked into it. I see a grifter spouting nonsense.
Wow. A grifter. God have mercy
If he existed, he should.
Someone trying to earn money by faking an illness and preying on the fears of the gullible is the lowest of the low.
Very true, but how do you know she is? You seem 1000% sure. How can you be so?
Ok, there's a remote possibility I'm wrong.
However, there's no known biological mechanism to support the claims she makes. It's not a tall order to make. How, with all we know about the human body and how it interacts with anything in the known universe, might this happen?
I'm not asking for a *proven* mechanism. I'm asking for a *plausible* mechanism.
In the absence of anything being even remotely possible as a way for this to happen, it's rational to draw the conclusion it didn't happen.
Go ahead, prove me wrong. Plausible biological mechanism that would produce this specific side effect. Given she's done such a great job sharing her plight, surely it'll be easy.
"However, there's no known biological mechanism to support the claims she makes. It's not a tall order to make"
The doctors theselves dont know!! Never mind us! All we do know from Brittany Galvin is, she has documented everything since her jab injury. Metal sticking to her was one of them. Like I said, she did it in front of doctors and they was speechless. "I've seen the interview with Alex Stein. I've seen her videos, YouTube and tiktok. I too was speechless.
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"I'm not pretending anything. I'm asking for evidence for your position. Do you have any reason to suppose that there is oblivion coming? What hypothesis do you have that would support such a conclusion? That we have all been experimented on.......that we are all in this experiment all without a clue all guessing what will happen I'm sorry but we can't ignore the vaccine injured and we can't ignore how they are being ignored we can't ignore the ignorance that people have been ignoring the fact the vaccine injured are being ignored......its as if no one wants to know so ignore it and it may go away just keep ignoring it and pretending there aren't any vaccine injuries there never has been.....the fact that the vaccine injured are being covered up and hidden speaks volumes..... and now theres just unexplainable mysterious ailments which can't ever be anything to do with the vaccine cos it's just not talked about.....lets just all keep pretending I'm not sure where your views are coming from, but there's always one thing that puzzles me about posts like this. "the fact that the vaccine injured are being covered up and hidden speaks volumes" If this is true, how did you hear about it, how do know with absolute certainty it true, if its "all being covered up and hidden" I find it confusing. And illogical. Winston Check out Brit Galvin, she is a perfect example. She has logged everything from day one. 62.1M views on TikTok. She is covid jab injured and had to move to Telegram just to get her story out, as Instagram and the rest kept calling her story misinformation. She was constantly blocked on MS Media for telling her true story. She even had metal objects sticking to her head in front of doctors who said they dont know why FFS. Its all on video! Check it. The vaccines turn you into............a magnet?
Winston
If you really was as intelligent as you make out to be, you would check for yourself before putting a silly comment.
I've looked into it. I see a grifter spouting nonsense.
Wow. A grifter. God have mercy
If he existed, he should.
Someone trying to earn money by faking an illness and preying on the fears of the gullible is the lowest of the low.
Very true, but how do you know she is? You seem 1000% sure. How can you be so?
Ok, there's a remote possibility I'm wrong.
However, there's no known biological mechanism to support the claims she makes. It's not a tall order to make. How, with all we know about the human body and how it interacts with anything in the known universe, might this happen?
I'm not asking for a *proven* mechanism. I'm asking for a *plausible* mechanism.
In the absence of anything being even remotely possible as a way for this to happen, it's rational to draw the conclusion it didn't happen.
Go ahead, prove me wrong. Plausible biological mechanism that would produce this specific side effect. Given she's done such a great job sharing her plight, surely it'll be easy.
"However, there's no known biological mechanism to support the claims she makes. It's not a tall order to make"
The doctors theselves dont know!! Never mind us! All we do know from Brittany Galvin is, she has documented everything since her jab injury. Metal sticking to her was one of them. Like I said, she did it in front of doctors and they was speechless. "So if there's no plausible biological mechanism, the logical explanation is to believe anything someone on the internet says? Yeah. And I've got a bridge to sell you. I operate in reality, not claims on Instagram and magic. | |||
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"I'm not pretending anything. I'm asking for evidence for your position. Do you have any reason to suppose that there is oblivion coming? What hypothesis do you have that would support such a conclusion? That we have all been experimented on.......that we are all in this experiment all without a clue all guessing what will happen I'm sorry but we can't ignore the vaccine injured and we can't ignore how they are being ignored we can't ignore the ignorance that people have been ignoring the fact the vaccine injured are being ignored......its as if no one wants to know so ignore it and it may go away just keep ignoring it and pretending there aren't any vaccine injuries there never has been.....the fact that the vaccine injured are being covered up and hidden speaks volumes..... and now theres just unexplainable mysterious ailments which can't ever be anything to do with the vaccine cos it's just not talked about.....lets just all keep pretending I'm not sure where your views are coming from, but there's always one thing that puzzles me about posts like this. "the fact that the vaccine injured are being covered up and hidden speaks volumes" If this is true, how did you hear about it, how do know with absolute certainty it true, if its "all being covered up and hidden" I find it confusing. And illogical. Winston Check out Brit Galvin, she is a perfect example. She has logged everything from day one. 62.1M views on TikTok. She is covid jab injured and had to move to Telegram just to get her story out, as Instagram and the rest kept calling her story misinformation. She was constantly blocked on MS Media for telling her true story. She even had metal objects sticking to her head in front of doctors who said they dont know why FFS. Its all on video! Check it. Is that the same Brit Galvin who was interviewed by Alex Stein for his subscription website "Conspiracy Castle"? The same Alex Stein, who's one of the biggest anti-masker and anti-vaccine leaders in the United States of America? Coincidence possibly... Winston So your saying Brit Galvin had to resort going to a conspiracy theorist person to get her story across?? Wonder why she would do that? Maybe because she wasnt able to get her story out to the people, through the main stream. Your proving the point of the jab injured getting covered up. She has documented Everything she has gone through since her jab. Dont mock it until you know her story. Its really quite sad, she has a family." Nice that you also see Alex Stein is a conspiracy theorist. As far as I'm aware YouTube and Tiktok are very much mainstream. Something for you to explain; why when she says "look, metal things stick to me", and places keys and coins on her face, they fall off? Winston | |||
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"The bankers can't explain how a Nigerian prince sent me £10 million. But I'll tell you for the low low price of £100. Same as the grifter. (Dear anyone, do not send me money, dear mods, I'm not serious)" *tears up cheque..... 
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"The bankers can't explain how a Nigerian prince sent me £10 million. But I'll tell you for the low low price of £100. Same as the grifter. (Dear anyone, do not send me money, dear mods, I'm not serious) *tears up cheque.....
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"At least an mRNA vaccine would presumably remove the biological mechanism that causes Guillain-Barré syndrome following flu vaccines (by not involving the whole virus). Horrible condition, great way to avoid it. (It's caused by flu more than the flu vaccine)" One thing I do wonder, given what we know about mRNA vaccinations and how it's now being researched into personalised, unique treatments for cancer, and how much we know cancer is a killer, how many of the "I'm not having that" people would willingly take and mRNA treatment if they'd been diagnosed with cancer. Winston | |||
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"After many years of research, including trials, an universal flu vaccine may be getting closer . The aim is to have 1 flu vaccine that would work for all types of flu that may infect you, rather than the current situation, where the most probably strains are predicted each year. The problem with the latter is that it's possible to predict incorrectly, missing a new variant, for example.
Promising results have now been seen in animal trials, so extensive trials of this mRNA vaccine will be necessary with people.
Another jab I will be avoiding like the plague. No jabs in over 30 years and still alive... how is that even possible? Lolz "Guessing you had the measles, polio etc vaccines as a child... oh look, you're still alive! Congratulations on avoiding fatal and life changing illnesses as a result of advances in medicine. | |||
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"At least an mRNA vaccine would presumably remove the biological mechanism that causes Guillain-Barré syndrome following flu vaccines (by not involving the whole virus). Horrible condition, great way to avoid it. (It's caused by flu more than the flu vaccine) One thing I do wonder, given what we know about mRNA vaccinations and how it's now being researched into personalised, unique treatments for cancer, and how much we know cancer is a killer, how many of the "I'm not having that" people would willingly take and mRNA treatment if they'd been diagnosed with cancer. Winston " There's a massive difference between cancer and flu/Covid etc. That would swing it for a lot of those people you refer to. | |||
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"Oh but it is true. Put your phone into developers mode and enable 'show devices with no name ' in the Bluetooth settings, then watch as the vaccinated around you pop up. " I genuinely have no idea whether this is serious or satire? | |||
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"Oh but it is true. Put your phone into developers mode and enable 'show devices with no name ' in the Bluetooth settings, then watch as the vaccinated around you pop up. I genuinely have no idea whether this is serious or satire?" This has to be a joke. No one is that stupid surely? | |||
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