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"Is anyone noticing a considerable resurgence in cases and widespread infection in their region again? " Yep if you see another post I commented on the other day | |||
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"Oh the thing is you don’t even have to upload results of tests anymore so numbers will be even higher " and people aren't regularly testing. I am as have to for work.. and noticed finally that they ask you to take a photo of your test ( although you can by pass it) | |||
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"I haven't seen or heard any covid info on the local news for ages." | |||
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"Apparently having had the dodgy jab connecting with 5g wifi it's a done deal that was the objective nothing else matters now. Next news item please" What on earth are you blathering on about! | |||
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"Apparently having had the dodgy jab connecting with 5g wifi it's a done deal that was the objective nothing else matters now. Next news item please" Hope this was a sarcasm or joke. No one can be serious talking like this. OH my | |||
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"The weirdest thing how once restrictions were lifted, even though cases were still quite high, covid seemed to cease to matter and make no material difference to the vast majority of people. It’s as if we all collectively forgot it and it seems but a distant memory. I never thought the transition would be that quick. Great isn’t it?!" That’s what vaccines do | |||
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"Apparently having had the dodgy jab connecting with 5g wifi it's a done deal that was the objective nothing else matters now. Next news item please What on earth are you blathering on about!" Perhaps he subscribes to Tin-foil Thursday | |||
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"Apparently having had the dodgy jab connecting with 5g wifi it's a done deal that was the objective nothing else matters now. Next news item please What on earth are you blathering on about! Perhaps he subscribes to Tin-foil Thursday" | |||
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"The weirdest thing how once restrictions were lifted, even though cases were still quite high, covid seemed to cease to matter and make no material difference to the vast majority of people. It’s as if we all collectively forgot it and it seems but a distant memory. I never thought the transition would be that quick. Great isn’t it?! That’s what vaccines do "According to Bill Gates omicron was far more effective than the vaccine. | |||
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"Where I work we don't have mandated testing anymore but staff do still have to self isolate if positive. We've seen a slight spike over the last week or so. Of course not linked to the nice weather and the fact that self isolation doesn't impact your sick pay...of course not "Touché My office is like the Mary Celeste today. Sudden bout of covid self isolations even though noonetests anymore apparently. Still they get full pay for self isolation and its hot as hell lol | |||
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"Concerned those sadists have fkkd with genes and chromosomes they don't fully understand for a sodding virus with a 99.6% survival rate! " You’ve no need to be concerned, nobody’s genetic make up has been altered by the vaccines. | |||
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"Where I work we don't have mandated testing anymore but staff do still have to self isolate if positive. We've seen a slight spike over the last week or so. Of course not linked to the nice weather and the fact that self isolation doesn't impact your sick pay...of course not
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My office is like the Mary Celeste today. Sudden bout of covid self isolations even though noonetests anymore apparently. Still they get full pay for self isolation and its hot as hell lol"I believe this is a classic case of what psychologists call ‘projection’. | |||
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"Concerned those sadists have fkkd with genes and chromosomes they don't fully understand for a sodding virus with a 99.6% survival rate! " Siri, remind me of this in ten years and let's see how everyone is faring. | |||
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"Is anyone noticing a considerable resurgence in cases and widespread infection in their region again? " most people are just not testing ! so how would we know ! | |||
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"Is anyone noticing a considerable resurgence in cases and widespread infection in their region again? most people are just not testing ! so how would we know ! " Move on zzzzzzz | |||
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"Is anyone noticing a considerable resurgence in cases and widespread infection in their region again? " Yep. I’m hoping that the better weather will see a reduction soon. | |||
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"No testing, no reporting so how’d anyone know 1 If they’ve got it 2. If cases are rising or falling " My colleagues and I are all still testing, and there’s a pretty big increase in folk getting it over the last fortnight or so. | |||
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"No testing, no reporting so how’d anyone know 1 If they’ve got it 2. If cases are rising or falling My colleagues and I are all still testing, and there’s a pretty big increase in folk getting it over the last fortnight or so." Other measures like Zoe and the ONS too. | |||
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"Almost as if some people want it and want the shit we had to go through to return. Odd" I'd rather assess my risk, but if you want to imagine that knowing things is the same as hoping it's bad, then you do you. | |||
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"No testing, no reporting so how’d anyone know 1 If they’ve got it 2. If cases are rising or falling My colleagues and I are all still testing, and there’s a pretty big increase in folk getting it over the last fortnight or so. Other measures like Zoe and the ONS too. " I’ve been doing the ONS testing both swab and blood for the last couple of years, seems like it could be changing in format from next month. | |||
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"No testing, no reporting so how’d anyone know 1 If they’ve got it 2. If cases are rising or falling My colleagues and I are all still testing, and there’s a pretty big increase in folk getting it over the last fortnight or so. Other measures like Zoe and the ONS too. I’ve been doing the ONS testing both swab and blood for the last couple of years, seems like it could be changing in format from next month. " Yes, it relies on the government, which probably gives it a poor prognosis. I'm glad Zoe is ongoing | |||
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"Almost as if some people want it and want the shit we had to go through to return. Odd I'd rather assess my risk, but if you want to imagine that knowing things is the same as hoping it's bad, then you do you." I will of course do me. Lets just hope people dont fall for the fearmongering this time. We can clearly see this is nothing to be panicking about anymore. | |||
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"Almost as if some people want it and want the shit we had to go through to return. Odd I'd rather assess my risk, but if you want to imagine that knowing things is the same as hoping it's bad, then you do you. I will of course do me. Lets just hope people dont fall for the fearmongering this time. We can clearly see this is nothing to be panicking about anymore. " I'm hardly panicking. I'm wearing an FFP3 outside my flat and am minimising social contact, as I've done since November. Hope this helps | |||
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"Almost as if some people want it and want the shit we had to go through to return. Odd I'd rather assess my risk, but if you want to imagine that knowing things is the same as hoping it's bad, then you do you. I will of course do me. Lets just hope people dont fall for the fearmongering this time. We can clearly see this is nothing to be panicking about anymore. I'm hardly panicking. I'm wearing an FFP3 outside my flat and am minimising social contact, as I've done since November. Hope this helps "Have fun with that! Try taking it off when you are outside though, promise its ok. Shame that its done this to you and i hope one day you can go back to a normal life. | |||
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"Almost as if some people want it and want the shit we had to go through to return. Odd I'd rather assess my risk, but if you want to imagine that knowing things is the same as hoping it's bad, then you do you. I will of course do me. Lets just hope people dont fall for the fearmongering this time. We can clearly see this is nothing to be panicking about anymore. I'm hardly panicking. I'm wearing an FFP3 outside my flat and am minimising social contact, as I've done since November. Hope this helps
Have fun with that! Try taking it off when you are outside though, promise its ok. Shame that its done this to you and i hope one day you can go back to a normal life. "Nah, fuck normality. At the moment I'm rather enjoying watching the bold noble underwear wetting tantrums from the people who say we should all choose as we see fit. It's absolutely fucking hilarious. | |||
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"Well, I've not noticed a rise, have noticed more people wearing masks again, not many just a few and I tested positive yesterday.." Feel better | |||
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"Well, I've not noticed a rise, have noticed more people wearing masks again, not many just a few and I tested positive yesterday.. Feel better" Thank you! Hope you have a lovely day today, Jx | |||
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"Almost as if some people want it and want the shit we had to go through to return. Odd I'd rather assess my risk, but if you want to imagine that knowing things is the same as hoping it's bad, then you do you. I will of course do me. Lets just hope people dont fall for the fearmongering this time. We can clearly see this is nothing to be panicking about anymore. I'm hardly panicking. I'm wearing an FFP3 outside my flat and am minimising social contact, as I've done since November. Hope this helps
Have fun with that! Try taking it off when you are outside though, promise its ok. Shame that its done this to you and i hope one day you can go back to a normal life.
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"The hospitals have noticed it. There are now over 6 million people on waiting lists for treatment, nearly 10% of the population, and a large number of them have been waiting for over a year. All because hospitals are fucked over with people who keep being infected and re-infected with variants of SARS-CoV-2. Apparently the government have now updated their waiting list policy to give the big aim that by 2025 they will clear the backlog of people waiting more than a year for treatment. That's right 2025. If you currently have a chronic illness that is treatable, not immediately life threatening, but might be causing you massive pain or preventing you from working or otherwise destroying your quality of life - you've only got another 3 years of it before there is an "aim" to get you some treatment. Meanwhile the latest research findings are that rather than omicron infection giving you any type of immunity, it apparently acts as a sort of "negative vaccine", making you more susceptible to future infections. All indications now are that each time someone catches a new variant of covid, it will cause increasing levels of damage. We can look forwards to a gradual increase in the number of chronically ill folk, a deterioration in average cognitive ability, and a reduction in life expectancy. On the positive side, if enough people die off over the next ten years or so, maybe it will stop the human race totally destroying the planet..." Knew it wouldnt be long before you appeared. Hospitals arent full of covid patients at all, check your sources. I work in hospitals all over the country and most have zero covid-only patients in. Yes there are backlogs but thats to be expected with the last 2 years! Can you see why the majority are against further restrictions!? How about people take responsibility for their own health where they can, diet, exercise, sleep etc. Im pretty certain the majority taking up hospital beds pre during and post covid dont help themselves day to day. | |||
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"There's some new data on the poor immunity that seems to be gotten fron the Omnicron variant types. There were many earlier reports this year of people catching it again, in fairly quick secession. " BA1, then can catch BA2 which was the quick succession, now there are two more, BA3 and BA4 which isbon its rounds now. Scotland last week had highest rates of these variants which with Half Term is lifting the rates. | |||
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"The hospitals have noticed it. There are now over 6 million people on waiting lists for treatment, nearly 10% of the population, and a large number of them have been waiting for over a year. All because hospitals are fucked over with people who keep being infected and re-infected with variants of SARS-CoV-2. Apparently the government have now updated their waiting list policy to give the big aim that by 2025 they will clear the backlog of people waiting more than a year for treatment. That's right 2025. If you currently have a chronic illness that is treatable, not immediately life threatening, but might be causing you massive pain or preventing you from working or otherwise destroying your quality of life - you've only got another 3 years of it before there is an "aim" to get you some treatment. Meanwhile the latest research findings are that rather than omicron infection giving you any type of immunity, it apparently acts as a sort of "negative vaccine", making you more susceptible to future infections. All indications now are that each time someone catches a new variant of covid, it will cause increasing levels of damage. We can look forwards to a gradual increase in the number of chronically ill folk, a deterioration in average cognitive ability, and a reduction in life expectancy. On the positive side, if enough people die off over the next ten years or so, maybe it will stop the human race totally destroying the planet... Knew it wouldnt be long before you appeared. Hospitals arent full of covid patients at all, check your sources. I work in hospitals all over the country and most have zero covid-only patients in. Yes there are backlogs but thats to be expected with the last 2 years! Can you see why the majority are against further restrictions!? How about people take responsibility for their own health where they can, diet, exercise, sleep etc. Im pretty certain the majority taking up hospital beds pre during and post covid dont help themselves day to day. " Post Covid? Cute. | |||
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"Concerned those sadists have fkkd with genes and chromosomes they don't fully understand for a sodding virus with a 99.6% survival rate! You’ve no need to be concerned, nobody’s genetic make up has been altered by the vaccines." Agree, but my damned 5g connectivity has dropped off and in need of a Booster.. | |||
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"Concerned those sadists have fkkd with genes and chromosomes they don't fully understand for a sodding virus with a 99.6% survival rate! You’ve no need to be concerned, nobody’s genetic make up has been altered by the vaccines. Agree, but my damned 5g connectivity has dropped off and in need of a Booster.."  | |||
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"The hospitals have noticed it. There are now over 6 million people on waiting lists for treatment, nearly 10% of the population, and a large number of them have been waiting for over a year. All because hospitals are fucked over with people who keep being infected and re-infected with variants of SARS-CoV-2. Apparently the government have now updated their waiting list policy to give the big aim that by 2025 they will clear the backlog of people waiting more than a year for treatment. That's right 2025. If you currently have a chronic illness that is treatable, not immediately life threatening, but might be causing you massive pain or preventing you from working or otherwise destroying your quality of life - you've only got another 3 years of it before there is an "aim" to get you some treatment. Meanwhile the latest research findings are that rather than omicron infection giving you any type of immunity, it apparently acts as a sort of "negative vaccine", making you more susceptible to future infections. All indications now are that each time someone catches a new variant of covid, it will cause increasing levels of damage. We can look forwards to a gradual increase in the number of chronically ill folk, a deterioration in average cognitive ability, and a reduction in life expectancy. On the positive side, if enough people die off over the next ten years or so, maybe it will stop the human race totally destroying the planet... Knew it wouldnt be long before you appeared. Hospitals arent full of covid patients at all, check your sources. I work in hospitals all over the country and most have zero covid-only patients in. Yes there are backlogs but thats to be expected with the last 2 years! Can you see why the majority are against further restrictions!? How about people take responsibility for their own health where they can, diet, exercise, sleep etc. Im pretty certain the majority taking up hospital beds pre during and post covid dont help themselves day to day. " So there are zero patients in hospitals with conditions exacerbated by previous or current covid infection? There is now zero impact on hospital operations caused by covid infection controls? There are zero hospital staff having to stay away from work because of covid infection? Are backlogs getting shorter or longer? Are there now more chronically ill people in the country than before the world was swept by the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic, or fewer? Of course I can see why the majority are against further restrictions. Can you see why some of us never wanted there to be the need for any restrictions, we just wanted people to voluntarily look after their own and others health instead of behaving like arseholes? Can you not see that the spread of the pandemic was enabled purely by the huge number of muppets that denied it was happening, and is continued only by the stupidity of those that make it continue by ignoring it? I perfectly agree that people should take responsibility for their own health, but this is impossible when continually surrounded by those who seemingly delight in being disease carriers. Your denying of the problem just increases the problem, and makes it my problem. Forcing that the only way that I can ensure my own health is by attempting to make you and everyone else look after your health. Hence years of nagging on this forum. I don't do it just for me, I do it because I would rather live in a healthy country (no chance of that now!) than a chronically ill country. | |||
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"The hospitals have noticed it. There are now over 6 million people on waiting lists for treatment, nearly 10% of the population, and a large number of them have been waiting for over a year. All because hospitals are fucked over with people who keep being infected and re-infected with variants of SARS-CoV-2. Apparently the government have now updated their waiting list policy to give the big aim that by 2025 they will clear the backlog of people waiting more than a year for treatment. That's right 2025. If you currently have a chronic illness that is treatable, not immediately life threatening, but might be causing you massive pain or preventing you from working or otherwise destroying your quality of life - you've only got another 3 years of it before there is an "aim" to get you some treatment. Meanwhile the latest research findings are that rather than omicron infection giving you any type of immunity, it apparently acts as a sort of "negative vaccine", making you more susceptible to future infections. All indications now are that each time someone catches a new variant of covid, it will cause increasing levels of damage. We can look forwards to a gradual increase in the number of chronically ill folk, a deterioration in average cognitive ability, and a reduction in life expectancy. On the positive side, if enough people die off over the next ten years or so, maybe it will stop the human race totally destroying the planet... Knew it wouldnt be long before you appeared. Hospitals arent full of covid patients at all, check your sources. I work in hospitals all over the country and most have zero covid-only patients in. Yes there are backlogs but thats to be expected with the last 2 years! Can you see why the majority are against further restrictions!? How about people take responsibility for their own health where they can, diet, exercise, sleep etc. Im pretty certain the majority taking up hospital beds pre during and post covid dont help themselves day to day. So there are zero patients in hospitals with conditions exacerbated by previous or current covid infection? There is now zero impact on hospital operations caused by covid infection controls? There are zero hospital staff having to stay away from work because of covid infection? Are backlogs getting shorter or longer? Are there now more chronically ill people in the country than before the world was swept by the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic, or fewer? Of course I can see why the majority are against further restrictions. Can you see why some of us never wanted there to be the need for any restrictions, we just wanted people to voluntarily look after their own and others health instead of behaving like arseholes? Can you not see that the spread of the pandemic was enabled purely by the huge number of muppets that denied it was happening, and is continued only by the stupidity of those that make it continue by ignoring it? I perfectly agree that people should take responsibility for their own health, but this is impossible when continually surrounded by those who seemingly delight in being disease carriers. Your denying of the problem just increases the problem, and makes it my problem. Forcing that the only way that I can ensure my own health is by attempting to make you and everyone else look after your health. Hence years of nagging on this forum. I don't do it just for me, I do it because I would rather live in a healthy country (no chance of that now!) than a chronically ill country. " I can't even look after my own health without being concern trolled or shouted at. The shouting is only getting worse. Fortunately I'm not a weak little lemming, and people abusing me to make me do what they want is likely to backfire. | |||
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"The hospitals have noticed it. There are now over 6 million people on waiting lists for treatment, nearly 10% of the population, and a large number of them have been waiting for over a year. All because hospitals are fucked over with people who keep being infected and re-infected with variants of SARS-CoV-2. Apparently the government have now updated their waiting list policy to give the big aim that by 2025 they will clear the backlog of people waiting more than a year for treatment. That's right 2025. If you currently have a chronic illness that is treatable, not immediately life threatening, but might be causing you massive pain or preventing you from working or otherwise destroying your quality of life - you've only got another 3 years of it before there is an "aim" to get you some treatment. Meanwhile the latest research findings are that rather than omicron infection giving you any type of immunity, it apparently acts as a sort of "negative vaccine", making you more susceptible to future infections. All indications now are that each time someone catches a new variant of covid, it will cause increasing levels of damage. We can look forwards to a gradual increase in the number of chronically ill folk, a deterioration in average cognitive ability, and a reduction in life expectancy. On the positive side, if enough people die off over the next ten years or so, maybe it will stop the human race totally destroying the planet..." Wow great to know the vaccine is working then. As 95% of the population has supposedly been jabbed how is it that so may are becoming ill? Possibly maybe that it is not in the interest of big pharma to cure people. Much better to sell something that only partly works and you need to come .back for more and more. Much like a or H dealer. | |||
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"The hospitals have noticed it. There are now over 6 million people on waiting lists for treatment, nearly 10% of the population, and a large number of them have been waiting for over a year. All because hospitals are fucked over with people who keep being infected and re-infected with variants of SARS-CoV-2. Apparently the government have now updated their waiting list policy to give the big aim that by 2025 they will clear the backlog of people waiting more than a year for treatment. That's right 2025. If you currently have a chronic illness that is treatable, not immediately life threatening, but might be causing you massive pain or preventing you from working or otherwise destroying your quality of life - you've only got another 3 years of it before there is an "aim" to get you some treatment. Meanwhile the latest research findings are that rather than omicron infection giving you any type of immunity, it apparently acts as a sort of "negative vaccine", making you more susceptible to future infections. All indications now are that each time someone catches a new variant of covid, it will cause increasing levels of damage. We can look forwards to a gradual increase in the number of chronically ill folk, a deterioration in average cognitive ability, and a reduction in life expectancy. On the positive side, if enough people die off over the next ten years or so, maybe it will stop the human race totally destroying the planet... Wow great to know the vaccine is working then. As 95% of the population has supposedly been jabbed how is it that so may are becoming ill? Possibly maybe that it is not in the interest of big pharma to cure people. Much better to sell something that only partly works and you need to come .back for more and more. Much like a or H dealer. " Dear oh dear....  | |||
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"The hospitals have noticed it. There are now over 6 million people on waiting lists for treatment, nearly 10% of the population, and a large number of them have been waiting for over a year. All because hospitals are fucked over with people who keep being infected and re-infected with variants of SARS-CoV-2. Apparently the government have now updated their waiting list policy to give the big aim that by 2025 they will clear the backlog of people waiting more than a year for treatment. That's right 2025. If you currently have a chronic illness that is treatable, not immediately life threatening, but might be causing you massive pain or preventing you from working or otherwise destroying your quality of life - you've only got another 3 years of it before there is an "aim" to get you some treatment. Meanwhile the latest research findings are that rather than omicron infection giving you any type of immunity, it apparently acts as a sort of "negative vaccine", making you more susceptible to future infections. All indications now are that each time someone catches a new variant of covid, it will cause increasing levels of damage. We can look forwards to a gradual increase in the number of chronically ill folk, a deterioration in average cognitive ability, and a reduction in life expectancy. On the positive side, if enough people die off over the next ten years or so, maybe it will stop the human race totally destroying the planet... Wow great to know the vaccine is working then. As 95% of the population has supposedly been jabbed how is it that so may are becoming ill? Possibly maybe that it is not in the interest of big pharma to cure people. Much better to sell something that only partly works and you need to come .back for more and more. Much like a or H dealer. Dear oh dear.... "And this coming from someone who thinks China and US don't collaborate. Oh dear oh dear indeed | |||
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"The hospitals have noticed it. There are now over 6 million people on waiting lists for treatment, nearly 10% of the population, and a large number of them have been waiting for over a year. All because hospitals are fucked over with people who keep being infected and re-infected with variants of SARS-CoV-2. Apparently the government have now updated their waiting list policy to give the big aim that by 2025 they will clear the backlog of people waiting more than a year for treatment. That's right 2025. If you currently have a chronic illness that is treatable, not immediately life threatening, but might be causing you massive pain or preventing you from working or otherwise destroying your quality of life - you've only got another 3 years of it before there is an "aim" to get you some treatment. Meanwhile the latest research findings are that rather than omicron infection giving you any type of immunity, it apparently acts as a sort of "negative vaccine", making you more susceptible to future infections. All indications now are that each time someone catches a new variant of covid, it will cause increasing levels of damage. We can look forwards to a gradual increase in the number of chronically ill folk, a deterioration in average cognitive ability, and a reduction in life expectancy. On the positive side, if enough people die off over the next ten years or so, maybe it will stop the human race totally destroying the planet... Wow great to know the vaccine is working then. As 95% of the population has supposedly been jabbed how is it that so may are becoming ill? Possibly maybe that it is not in the interest of big pharma to cure people. Much better to sell something that only partly works and you need to come .back for more and more. Much like a or H dealer. Dear oh dear....
And this coming from someone who thinks China and US don't collaborate.
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"I have. I expected it, especially after the Jubilee celebrations. I’ve noticed more cases in the local schools (kids and their parents) and amongst friends and acquaintances. The new variant seems to be more contagious so it was to be expected. I just hope it won’t be as deadly as, being a very large woman, it could affect me badly (my last/boister dose was back in October so not sure how much, if any, protection this would give me). I’ll just have to keep on being cautious." You couldn’t make it up… | |||
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"I have. I expected it, especially after the Jubilee celebrations. I’ve noticed more cases in the local schools (kids and their parents) and amongst friends and acquaintances. The new variant seems to be more contagious so it was to be expected. I just hope it won’t be as deadly as, being a very large woman, it could affect me badly (my last/boister dose was back in October so not sure how much, if any, protection this would give me). I’ll just have to keep on being cautious." Be well. | |||
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"I have. I expected it, especially after the Jubilee celebrations. I’ve noticed more cases in the local schools (kids and their parents) and amongst friends and acquaintances. The new variant seems to be more contagious so it was to be expected. I just hope it won’t be as deadly as, being a very large woman, it could affect me badly (my last/boister dose was back in October so not sure how much, if any, protection this would give me). I’ll just have to keep on being cautious. You couldn’t make it up… " Tell me about it | |||
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"Almost as if some people want it and want the shit we had to go through to return. Odd" . I’m pretty sure there are some on here who really do. This forum is like entering some sort of parallel universe. The only time anyone mentions the subject now is on here where a few regulars seem dedicated to keeping the subject rumbling on. | |||
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"Almost as if some people want it and want the shit we had to go through to return. Odd. I’m pretty sure there are some on here who really do. This forum is like entering some sort of parallel universe. The only time anyone mentions the subject now is on here where a few regulars seem dedicated to keeping the subject rumbling on. " It's interesting to see who starts or bumps topics. It isn't what comments like these imply, in the main | |||
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"We need to move on from this and manage covid. Cases will rise its now the hospital levels and deaths we need to keep an eye on. Not rise in cases, my two children both had it and we wouldn't of known they had it. " If only that were the case, sadly the more cases in the community the more likely NHS and social care staff are to catch it. The more NHS and social care staff catch it the fewer people there are to care for the sick, elderly and vulnerable. | |||
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"We need to move on from this and manage covid. Cases will rise its now the hospital levels and deaths we need to keep an eye on. Not rise in cases, my two children both had it and we wouldn't of known they had it. If only that were the case, sadly the more cases in the community the more likely NHS and social care staff are to catch it. The more NHS and social care staff catch it the fewer people there are to care for the sick, elderly and vulnerable." So whats the option moving forward longterm? | |||
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"There's some new data on the poor immunity that seems to be gotten fron the Omnicron variant types. There were many earlier reports this year of people catching it again, in fairly quick secession. " I had it twice - bad in November (Delta?) and again in Feb (not very ill, probably omicron). The horrid cough has FINALLY just about disappeared. | |||
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"We need to move on from this and manage covid. Cases will rise its now the hospital levels and deaths we need to keep an eye on. Not rise in cases, my two children both had it and we wouldn't of known they had it. If only that were the case, sadly the more cases in the community the more likely NHS and social care staff are to catch it. The more NHS and social care staff catch it the fewer people there are to care for the sick, elderly and vulnerable. So whats the option moving forward longterm? " Well that rather depends what you want. If it’s a health and social care system that has a fighting chance of getting through the winter without people dying while waiting for ambulances, and people having their urgent treatment rather than it being cancelled because there are no beds; then we need to look at providing boosters for the entire population, not just the over 75s, as well as improving ventilation and wearing masks in enclosed spaces. If we just want to go to the pub restriction free for a while, then nothing. I don’t want to see a return to ‘lockdowns’ and operations being cancelled, so I’d go for the boosters and masks route. For me it’s a very small price to pay in order to make sure we don’t go back to the bad times. | |||
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"We need to move on from this and manage covid. Cases will rise its now the hospital levels and deaths we need to keep an eye on. Not rise in cases, my two children both had it and we wouldn't of known they had it. If only that were the case, sadly the more cases in the community the more likely NHS and social care staff are to catch it. The more NHS and social care staff catch it the fewer people there are to care for the sick, elderly and vulnerable. So whats the option moving forward longterm? Well that rather depends what you want. If it’s a health and social care system that has a fighting chance of getting through the winter without people dying while waiting for ambulances, and people having their urgent treatment rather than it being cancelled because there are no beds; then we need to look at providing boosters for the entire population, not just the over 75s, as well as improving ventilation and wearing masks in enclosed spaces. If we just want to go to the pub restriction free for a while, then nothing. I don’t want to see a return to ‘lockdowns’ and operations being cancelled, so I’d go for the boosters and masks route. For me it’s a very small price to pay in order to make sure we don’t go back to the bad times." With a relatively novel virus, if you fuck around you find out. I'm not prepared to find out with my body, so I'm not going to fuck around. | |||
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"Apparently cases have risen in Scotland as most working from home unsure if this is the case anywhere else" I do t think there’s anywhere in the UK where ‘most’ are working from home. | |||
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"We need to move on from this and manage covid. Cases will rise its now the hospital levels and deaths we need to keep an eye on. Not rise in cases, my two children both had it and we wouldn't of known they had it. " Probably handy to keep an eye on whatever useful info is out there. And if people do t want to... That's up to tbem. Bit like the monkey pox outbreak or any other health matter. Ignoring stuff probably not in anyone's interest. | |||
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"We need to move on from this and manage covid. Cases will rise its now the hospital levels and deaths we need to keep an eye on. Not rise in cases, my two children both had it and we wouldn't of known they had it. If only that were the case, sadly the more cases in the community the more likely NHS and social care staff are to catch it. The more NHS and social care staff catch it the fewer people there are to care for the sick, elderly and vulnerable. So whats the option moving forward longterm? Well that rather depends what you want. If it’s a health and social care system that has a fighting chance of getting through the winter without people dying while waiting for ambulances, and people having their urgent treatment rather than it being cancelled because there are no beds; then we need to look at providing boosters for the entire population, not just the over 75s, as well as improving ventilation and wearing masks in enclosed spaces. If we just want to go to the pub restriction free for a while, then nothing. I don’t want to see a return to ‘lockdowns’ and operations being cancelled, so I’d go for the boosters and masks route. For me it’s a very small price to pay in order to make sure we don’t go back to the bad times."
We've been lulled into a somewhat false sense of security, as omnicrom has been relatively mild and we had good levels of immunity around. This new variant may not be helping create good levels of immunity.
And its a waiting and numbers game, before new variants are created and become dominant.
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"We need to move on from this and manage covid. Cases will rise its now the hospital levels and deaths we need to keep an eye on. Not rise in cases, my two children both had it and we wouldn't of known they had it. Probably handy to keep an eye on whatever useful info is out there. And if people do t want to... That's up to tbem. Bit like the monkey pox outbreak or any other health matter. Ignoring stuff probably not in anyone's interest. " Absolutely. I'm just trying to keep myself out of mischief by being informed | |||
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"Almost as if some people want it and want the shit we had to go through to return. Odd" Yes, it feels like some do dont it. | |||
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"Apparently cases have risen in Scotland as most working from home unsure if this is the case anywhere else I do t think there’s anywhere in the UK where ‘most’ are working from home." Well few important calls ive made this morning in Scotland have been working from home which weren't a while ago these are organisations | |||
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"Almost as if some people want it and want the shit we had to go through to return. OddYes, it feels like some do dont it." Not really no. I'm not seeing anyone saying let's go back to lockdown #1. Although I am seeing a fair few people insulting others by telling them they are hiding or being bedwetters or similar choices of words. I also see a few people who are passionate about it and interested, sharing salient updates as we carry on. There seem to be some who are more cautious, some who are less cautious and some who don't care | |||
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"Almost as if some people want it and want the shit we had to go through to return. OddYes, it feels like some do dont it. Not really no. I'm not seeing anyone saying let's go back to lockdown #1. Although I am seeing a fair few people insulting others by telling them they are hiding or being bedwetters or similar choices of words. I also see a few people who are passionate about it and interested, sharing salient updates as we carry on. There seem to be some who are more cautious, some who are less cautious and some who don't care" Totally | |||
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"The hospitals have noticed it. There are now over 6 million people on waiting lists for treatment, nearly 10% of the population, and a large number of them have been waiting for over a year. All because hospitals are fucked over with people who keep being infected and re-infected with variants of SARS-CoV-2. Apparently the government have now updated their waiting list policy to give the big aim that by 2025 they will clear the backlog of people waiting more than a year for treatment. That's right 2025. If you currently have a chronic illness that is treatable, not immediately life threatening, but might be causing you massive pain or preventing you from working or otherwise destroying your quality of life - you've only got another 3 years of it before there is an "aim" to get you some treatment. Meanwhile the latest research findings are that rather than omicron infection giving you any type of immunity, it apparently acts as a sort of "negative vaccine", making you more susceptible to future infections. All indications now are that each time someone catches a new variant of covid, it will cause increasing levels of damage. We can look forwards to a gradual increase in the number of chronically ill folk, a deterioration in average cognitive ability, and a reduction in life expectancy. On the positive side, if enough people die off over the next ten years or so, maybe it will stop the human race totally destroying the planet... Knew it wouldnt be long before you appeared. Hospitals arent full of covid patients at all, check your sources. I work in hospitals all over the country and most have zero covid-only patients in. Yes there are backlogs but thats to be expected with the last 2 years! Can you see why the majority are against further restrictions!? How about people take responsibility for their own health where they can, diet, exercise, sleep etc. Im pretty certain the majority taking up hospital beds pre during and post covid dont help themselves day to day. So there are zero patients in hospitals with conditions exacerbated by previous or current covid infection? There is now zero impact on hospital operations caused by covid infection controls? There are zero hospital staff having to stay away from work because of covid infection? Are backlogs getting shorter or longer? Are there now more chronically ill people in the country than before the world was swept by the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic, or fewer? Of course I can see why the majority are against further restrictions. Can you see why some of us never wanted there to be the need for any restrictions, we just wanted people to voluntarily look after their own and others health instead of behaving like arseholes? Can you not see that the spread of the pandemic was enabled purely by the huge number of muppets that denied it was happening, and is continued only by the stupidity of those that make it continue by ignoring it? I perfectly agree that people should take responsibility for their own health, but this is impossible when continually surrounded by those who seemingly delight in being disease carriers. Your denying of the problem just increases the problem, and makes it my problem. Forcing that the only way that I can ensure my own health is by attempting to make you and everyone else look after your health. Hence years of nagging on this forum. I don't do it just for me, I do it because I would rather live in a healthy country (no chance of that now!) than a chronically ill country. I can't even look after my own health without being concern trolled or shouted at. The shouting is only getting worse. Fortunately I'm not a weak little lemming, and people abusing me to make me do what they want is likely to backfire." That's because on every single thread to do with Covid, you post 20% of all messages, it's as if you are arguing with yourself. No one gives two hoots what you do, let alone "trying to make you do what they want". The word obsessed springs to mind, take a deep breath and let it go, the rest of the world has moved on. | |||
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"The hospitals have noticed it. There are now over 6 million people on waiting lists for treatment, nearly 10% of the population, and a large number of them have been waiting for over a year. All because hospitals are fucked over with people who keep being infected and re-infected with variants of SARS-CoV-2. Apparently the government have now updated their waiting list policy to give the big aim that by 2025 they will clear the backlog of people waiting more than a year for treatment. That's right 2025. If you currently have a chronic illness that is treatable, not immediately life threatening, but might be causing you massive pain or preventing you from working or otherwise destroying your quality of life - you've only got another 3 years of it before there is an "aim" to get you some treatment. Meanwhile the latest research findings are that rather than omicron infection giving you any type of immunity, it apparently acts as a sort of "negative vaccine", making you more susceptible to future infections. All indications now are that each time someone catches a new variant of covid, it will cause increasing levels of damage. We can look forwards to a gradual increase in the number of chronically ill folk, a deterioration in average cognitive ability, and a reduction in life expectancy. On the positive side, if enough people die off over the next ten years or so, maybe it will stop the human race totally destroying the planet... Knew it wouldnt be long before you appeared. Hospitals arent full of covid patients at all, check your sources. I work in hospitals all over the country and most have zero covid-only patients in. Yes there are backlogs but thats to be expected with the last 2 years! Can you see why the majority are against further restrictions!? How about people take responsibility for their own health where they can, diet, exercise, sleep etc. Im pretty certain the majority taking up hospital beds pre during and post covid dont help themselves day to day. So there are zero patients in hospitals with conditions exacerbated by previous or current covid infection? There is now zero impact on hospital operations caused by covid infection controls? There are zero hospital staff having to stay away from work because of covid infection? Are backlogs getting shorter or longer? Are there now more chronically ill people in the country than before the world was swept by the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic, or fewer? Of course I can see why the majority are against further restrictions. Can you see why some of us never wanted there to be the need for any restrictions, we just wanted people to voluntarily look after their own and others health instead of behaving like arseholes? Can you not see that the spread of the pandemic was enabled purely by the huge number of muppets that denied it was happening, and is continued only by the stupidity of those that make it continue by ignoring it? I perfectly agree that people should take responsibility for their own health, but this is impossible when continually surrounded by those who seemingly delight in being disease carriers. Your denying of the problem just increases the problem, and makes it my problem. Forcing that the only way that I can ensure my own health is by attempting to make you and everyone else look after your health. Hence years of nagging on this forum. I don't do it just for me, I do it because I would rather live in a healthy country (no chance of that now!) than a chronically ill country. I can't even look after my own health without being concern trolled or shouted at. The shouting is only getting worse. Fortunately I'm not a weak little lemming, and people abusing me to make me do what they want is likely to backfire. That's because on every single thread to do with Covid, you post 20% of all messages, it's as if you are arguing with yourself. No one gives two hoots what you do, let alone "trying to make you do what they want". The word obsessed springs to mind, take a deep breath and let it go, the rest of the world has moved on." So strangers shout at me in the street because you dislike the way I post? Fascinating. | |||
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"The hospitals have noticed it. There are now over 6 million people on waiting lists for treatment, nearly 10% of the population, and a large number of them have been waiting for over a year. All because hospitals are fucked over with people who keep being infected and re-infected with variants of SARS-CoV-2. Apparently the government have now updated their waiting list policy to give the big aim that by 2025 they will clear the backlog of people waiting more than a year for treatment. That's right 2025. If you currently have a chronic illness that is treatable, not immediately life threatening, but might be causing you massive pain or preventing you from working or otherwise destroying your quality of life - you've only got another 3 years of it before there is an "aim" to get you some treatment. Meanwhile the latest research findings are that rather than omicron infection giving you any type of immunity, it apparently acts as a sort of "negative vaccine", making you more susceptible to future infections. All indications now are that each time someone catches a new variant of covid, it will cause increasing levels of damage. We can look forwards to a gradual increase in the number of chronically ill folk, a deterioration in average cognitive ability, and a reduction in life expectancy. On the positive side, if enough people die off over the next ten years or so, maybe it will stop the human race totally destroying the planet... Knew it wouldnt be long before you appeared. Hospitals arent full of covid patients at all, check your sources. I work in hospitals all over the country and most have zero covid-only patients in. Yes there are backlogs but thats to be expected with the last 2 years! Can you see why the majority are against further restrictions!? How about people take responsibility for their own health where they can, diet, exercise, sleep etc. Im pretty certain the majority taking up hospital beds pre during and post covid dont help themselves day to day. So there are zero patients in hospitals with conditions exacerbated by previous or current covid infection? There is now zero impact on hospital operations caused by covid infection controls? There are zero hospital staff having to stay away from work because of covid infection? Are backlogs getting shorter or longer? Are there now more chronically ill people in the country than before the world was swept by the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic, or fewer? Of course I can see why the majority are against further restrictions. Can you see why some of us never wanted there to be the need for any restrictions, we just wanted people to voluntarily look after their own and others health instead of behaving like arseholes? Can you not see that the spread of the pandemic was enabled purely by the huge number of muppets that denied it was happening, and is continued only by the stupidity of those that make it continue by ignoring it? I perfectly agree that people should take responsibility for their own health, but this is impossible when continually surrounded by those who seemingly delight in being disease carriers. Your denying of the problem just increases the problem, and makes it my problem. Forcing that the only way that I can ensure my own health is by attempting to make you and everyone else look after your health. Hence years of nagging on this forum. I don't do it just for me, I do it because I would rather live in a healthy country (no chance of that now!) than a chronically ill country. I can't even look after my own health without being concern trolled or shouted at. The shouting is only getting worse. Fortunately I'm not a weak little lemming, and people abusing me to make me do what they want is likely to backfire. That's because on every single thread to do with Covid, you post 20% of all messages, it's as if you are arguing with yourself. No one gives two hoots what you do, let alone "trying to make you do what they want". The word obsessed springs to mind, take a deep breath and let it go, the rest of the world has moved on." The rest of the world has moved on but forgotten those who are CEV ( clinically extremely vulnerable) which number over 3 million . I don’t know if you work or know anyone who is CEV but I can tell you( from working with them) that they live their lives in constant fear of catching Covid- we should at least be mindful of their plight. Also long Covid carries an 8-10% risk of occurring after Covid infection with your chances rising after each subsequent infection. Even the Bank of England is acknowledging the effect of Long Covid poses to the economy. Ignoring the risks are ultimately going to cost all of us in the long run. | |||
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"Is anyone noticing a considerable resurgence in cases and widespread infection in their region again? " Depends what you mean by considerable. The number of positive COVID cases and admissions to hospital in England has increased recently. Deaths are lower though. We shouldn't be complacent. Hands, face, space probably is still good advice. | |||
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"Our area went significantly down about a month back but it paused then accelerated upwards, stopped again but its on the way back up again. Low ish numbers 93 since last week out of a population of approximately 120k." Is that new cases, hospital admissions or deaths? | |||
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"No recording, no tests so wherre are these "statistics" coming from?????" They pick out random people who test, i think its IPSOS that does it. They have done it almost from the beginning of covid, been picked twice myself. They know the % of people in this sample who test positive and scale it up to the whole population. It is always the most accurate way of knowing how many people have covid. However there is alway a lag of 1 to 2 weeks in the data. Hope that answers your question. | |||
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"Cases up a little; rate of serious illness unchanged. So it’s basically a viral upper respiratory tract infection; harmless to most, potentially dangerous to those with crap immune systems. " You could be sort of be right, but generally hospitalisations rise 2 to 4 weeks after a rise in infections and then deaths rise 4 to 8 weeks later. Obviously covid is more dangerous to people with co morbitities but plenty of fit healthy people have been unlucky. | |||
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"Concerned those sadists have fkkd with genes and chromosomes they don't fully understand for a sodding virus with a 99.6% survival rate! " Tell me more as none of this was in any lectures on DNA | |||
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"I had it for the second time the other week in comparison to the first time I had it before vaccines etc it was a lot milder. " Well maybe it is because of vaccine, maybe not...my flatmate is not vaccinated, had twice and also second time lot milder | |||
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"A couple of days ago new cases rate was reported to have hit 250,000 per day. Today reported as having increased to 270,000 per day. During last week an estimated 1.7 million people had covid, increased from 1.36 million the week before. Now 7,800 hospital beds filled by covid patients, up by 2000 since the previous week. Meanwhile medical studies are showing that with each successive infection the body's immune system takes an increased battering. After three infections some people now measuring T-cell counts lower than AIDS sufferers; it is not yet known if this will be temporary or whether T-cells will recover if given chance. Note that this is not everybody, however the early indications are that over long term covid may cause an average lowering of general immunity across the population, such that there are many disabilities and deaths from other diseases which would normally have been fought off. This is similar to how the HIV virus does not directly kill people, but causes destruction of the immune system such that trivial infections (cold virus, acne bacteria, athletes foot fungus) can become lethal - not death by HIV but death with HIV, however nonetheless death which would not have happened but for the HIV infection." Reported by which organisation. Probably one concerned in selling the treatment/vaccine. More scare tactics | |||
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"A couple of days ago new cases rate was reported to have hit 250,000 per day. Today reported as having increased to 270,000 per day. During last week an estimated 1.7 million people had covid, increased from 1.36 million the week before. Now 7,800 hospital beds filled by covid patients, up by 2000 since the previous week. Meanwhile medical studies are showing that with each successive infection the body's immune system takes an increased battering. After three infections some people now measuring T-cell counts lower than AIDS sufferers; it is not yet known if this will be temporary or whether T-cells will recover if given chance. Note that this is not everybody, however the early indications are that over long term covid may cause an average lowering of general immunity across the population, such that there are many disabilities and deaths from other diseases which would normally have been fought off. This is similar to how the HIV virus does not directly kill people, but causes destruction of the immune system such that trivial infections (cold virus, acne bacteria, athletes foot fungus) can become lethal - not death by HIV but death with HIV, however nonetheless death which would not have happened but for the HIV infection." Sorry, I’m going to bite, this is just nonsense. The whole immune thing is plain wrong and case numbers - well, not sure where they come from. Hospitals report numbers still but they are v v low. Not every inpatient is tested any more and we’re not generally testing the population so I’d love to know the provenance of those figures. Covid has gone away for all but the immunosuppressive, to whom any virus is a threat. Change the record. | |||
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"A couple of days ago new cases rate was reported to have hit 250,000 per day. Today reported as having increased to 270,000 per day. During last week an estimated 1.7 million people had covid, increased from 1.36 million the week before. Now 7,800 hospital beds filled by covid patients, up by 2000 since the previous week. Meanwhile medical studies are showing that with each successive infection the body's immune system takes an increased battering. After three infections some people now measuring T-cell counts lower than AIDS sufferers; it is not yet known if this will be temporary or whether T-cells will recover if given chance. Note that this is not everybody, however the early indications are that over long term covid may cause an average lowering of general immunity across the population, such that there are many disabilities and deaths from other diseases which would normally have been fought off. This is similar to how the HIV virus does not directly kill people, but causes destruction of the immune system such that trivial infections (cold virus, acne bacteria, athletes foot fungus) can become lethal - not death by HIV but death with HIV, however nonetheless death which would not have happened but for the HIV infection. Sorry, I’m going to bite, this is just nonsense. The whole immune thing is plain wrong and case numbers - well, not sure where they come from. Hospitals report numbers still but they are v v low. Not every inpatient is tested any more and we’re not generally testing the population so I’d love to know the provenance of those figures. Covid has gone away for all but the immunosuppressive, to whom any virus is a threat. Change the record. " I don’t know enough about the immune system to comment but I’m interested as to how you feel you can declare it as ‘just plain wrong’? As for the numbers, there’s a lot of information held internally in the NHS and public health which isn’t picked up by the media (why that is, is another debate) but the numbers Polly quotes are largely in line with what I have seen, although I’m not as up to date on it. | |||
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"Is anyone noticing a considerable resurgence in cases and widespread infection in their region again? " Local hospital in their infinite wisdom, removed requirements of masks and limited visiting last week. Infections between staff and patients has rocketed this week. Was all over the local radio as adverts that it's back to normal. I can't see it lasting making it embarrassing to backtrack. | |||
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"A couple of days ago new cases rate was reported to have hit 250,000 per day. Today reported as having increased to 270,000 per day. During last week an estimated 1.7 million people had covid, increased from 1.36 million the week before. Now 7,800 hospital beds filled by covid patients, up by 2000 since the previous week. Meanwhile medical studies are showing that with each successive infection the body's immune system takes an increased battering. After three infections some people now measuring T-cell counts lower than AIDS sufferers; it is not yet known if this will be temporary or whether T-cells will recover if given chance. Note that this is not everybody, however the early indications are that over long term covid may cause an average lowering of general immunity across the population, such that there are many disabilities and deaths from other diseases which would normally have been fought off. This is similar to how the HIV virus does not directly kill people, but causes destruction of the immune system such that trivial infections (cold virus, acne bacteria, athletes foot fungus) can become lethal - not death by HIV but death with HIV, however nonetheless death which would not have happened but for the HIV infection. Reported by which organisation. Probably one concerned in selling the treatment/vaccine. More scare tactics " ONS and Zoe app are reporting cases | |||
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"A couple of days ago new cases rate was reported to have hit 250,000 per day. Today reported as having increased to 270,000 per day. During last week an estimated 1.7 million people had covid, increased from 1.36 million the week before. Now 7,800 hospital beds filled by covid patients, up by 2000 since the previous week. Meanwhile medical studies are showing that with each successive infection the body's immune system takes an increased battering. After three infections some people now measuring T-cell counts lower than AIDS sufferers; it is not yet known if this will be temporary or whether T-cells will recover if given chance. Note that this is not everybody, however the early indications are that over long term covid may cause an average lowering of general immunity across the population, such that there are many disabilities and deaths from other diseases which would normally have been fought off. This is similar to how the HIV virus does not directly kill people, but causes destruction of the immune system such that trivial infections (cold virus, acne bacteria, athletes foot fungus) can become lethal - not death by HIV but death with HIV, however nonetheless death which would not have happened but for the HIV infection." Totally made up. Where’s your source ? | |||
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"A couple of days ago new cases rate was reported to have hit 250,000 per day. Today reported as having increased to 270,000 per day. During last week an estimated 1.7 million people had covid, increased from 1.36 million the week before. Now 7,800 hospital beds filled by covid patients, up by 2000 since the previous week. Meanwhile medical studies are showing that with each successive infection the body's immune system takes an increased battering. After three infections some people now measuring T-cell counts lower than AIDS sufferers; it is not yet known if this will be temporary or whether T-cells will recover if given chance. Note that this is not everybody, however the early indications are that over long term covid may cause an average lowering of general immunity across the population, such that there are many disabilities and deaths from other diseases which would normally have been fought off. This is similar to how the HIV virus does not directly kill people, but causes destruction of the immune system such that trivial infections (cold virus, acne bacteria, athletes foot fungus) can become lethal - not death by HIV but death with HIV, however nonetheless death which would not have happened but for the HIV infection. Totally made up. Where’s your source ?" You know just because you don’t like what is being said it doesn’t mean it’s made up. As has been mentioned the Zoe app and the ONS are reporting case numbers. | |||
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"I have. I expected it, especially after the Jubilee celebrations. I’ve noticed more cases in the local schools (kids and their parents) and amongst friends and acquaintances. The new variant seems to be more contagious so it was to be expected. I just hope it won’t be as deadly as, being a very large woman, it could affect me badly (my last/boister dose was back in October so not sure how much, if any, protection this would give me). I’ll just have to keep on being cautious." Let's see what Glastonbury does to the spread. A little mingling never hurt anyone.. | |||
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"Are people still falling for that nonsense ??" Yeah, people really do think it’s over, mad isn’t it? | |||
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"Concerned those sadists have fkkd with genes and chromosomes they don't fully understand for a sodding virus with a 99.6% survival rate! " 99.06% actually | |||
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"Are people still falling for that nonsense ?? Yeah, people really do think it’s over, mad isn’t it?" I still "fall for" science rather than slogans on the internet. More fool me | |||
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"Are people still falling for that nonsense ?? Yeah, people really do think it’s over, mad isn’t it?" I meant does anyone still believe that Covid is a "deadly pandemic "? I had it , sniffles for a few days and right as rain since . | |||
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"Concerned those sadists have fkkd with genes and chromosomes they don't fully understand for a sodding virus with a 99.6% survival rate! 99.06% actually" Siri, remind me of this in five years so I can laugh my arse off | |||
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"Are people still falling for that nonsense ?? Yeah, people really do think it’s over, mad isn’t it? I still "fall for" science rather than slogans on the internet. More fool me "Yeah , you follow the science , while the "science" follows the money  | |||
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"Are people still falling for that nonsense ?? Yeah, people really do think it’s over, mad isn’t it? I still "fall for" science rather than slogans on the internet. More fool me
Yeah , you follow the science , while the "science" follows the money"Lol ok Meanwhile numerous Brave Noble Truth Tellers have made an awful lot of money out of this pandemic. But the money made by con artists and fraudsters is pure and good, as are all the failed predictions. As I say, remind me of this in five years, let's see how this is going | |||
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"Are people still falling for that nonsense ?? Yeah, people really do think it’s over, mad isn’t it? I meant does anyone still believe that Covid is a "deadly pandemic "? I had it , sniffles for a few days and right as rain since . " Interesting theory, I was in a car crash once and didn’t die, does that mean no one ever died in a car crash? | |||
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"Are people still falling for that nonsense ?? Yeah, people really do think it’s over, mad isn’t it? I meant does anyone still believe that Covid is a "deadly pandemic "? I had it , sniffles for a few days and right as rain since . Interesting theory, I was in a car crash once and didn’t die, does that mean no one ever died in a car crash?" You're gonna die anyway , if that's the logic | |||
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"Are people still falling for that nonsense ?? Yeah, people really do think it’s over, mad isn’t it? I meant does anyone still believe that Covid is a "deadly pandemic "? I had it , sniffles for a few days and right as rain since . Interesting theory, I was in a car crash once and didn’t die, does that mean no one ever died in a car crash? You're gonna die anyway , if that's the logic "Oh so you’re one of these brave souls who hi doesn’t care if other folks die because they’re going to die anyway? | |||
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"Concerned those sadists have fkkd with genes and chromosomes they don't fully understand for a sodding virus with a 99.6% survival rate! 99.06% actually Siri, remind me of this in five years so I can laugh my arse off" The fact that to date (that’s today) the survival rate is 99.06% will not have changed in 5 years. If you think that that figure will increase during the next five years when 95% have been jabbed, don’t you think that actually tells you something about the jabs ? | |||
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"Concerned those sadists have fkkd with genes and chromosomes they don't fully understand for a sodding virus with a 99.6% survival rate! 99.06% actually Siri, remind me of this in five years so I can laugh my arse off The fact that to date (that’s today) the survival rate is 99.06% will not have changed in 5 years. If you think that that figure will increase during the next five years when 95% have been jabbed, don’t you think that actually tells you something about the jabs ? " No, because I recognise that cause and effect is multifactorial, and I have a basic understanding of vaccine mechanisms (which make mysterious side effects emerging in the long term impossible). I do predict that in five years, if my hypothesis is correct, the Covid era fraudsters will be profiteering by saying it was the vaccines. And they'll have plenty of scientifically illiterate followers who believe them. *Shrug* I care about my health. It's why I'm vaccinated. | |||
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"A couple of days ago new cases rate was reported to have hit 250,000 per day. Today reported as having increased to 270,000 per day. During last week an estimated 1.7 million people had covid, increased from 1.36 million the week before. Now 7,800 hospital beds filled by covid patients, up by 2000 since the previous week. Meanwhile medical studies are showing that with each successive infection the body's immune system takes an increased battering. After three infections some people now measuring T-cell counts lower than AIDS sufferers; it is not yet known if this will be temporary or whether T-cells will recover if given chance. Note that this is not everybody, however the early indications are that over long term covid may cause an average lowering of general immunity across the population, such that there are many disabilities and deaths from other diseases which would normally have been fought off. This is similar to how the HIV virus does not directly kill people, but causes destruction of the immune system such that trivial infections (cold virus, acne bacteria, athletes foot fungus) can become lethal - not death by HIV but death with HIV, however nonetheless death which would not have happened but for the HIV infection. Totally made up. Where’s your source ? You know just because you don’t like what is being said it doesn’t mean it’s made up. As has been mentioned the Zoe app and the ONS are reporting case numbers." I’m not talking about case numbers. I’m talking about the T Cell stuff which I’ve just spent ages trying to find anything to back it up, with nothing at all appearing. Not to mention the obvious flaw in this claim - that hardly anybody has had covid three times | |||
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"A couple of days ago new cases rate was reported to have hit 250,000 per day. Today reported as having increased to 270,000 per day. During last week an estimated 1.7 million people had covid, increased from 1.36 million the week before. Now 7,800 hospital beds filled by covid patients, up by 2000 since the previous week. Meanwhile medical studies are showing that with each successive infection the body's immune system takes an increased battering. After three infections some people now measuring T-cell counts lower than AIDS sufferers; it is not yet known if this will be temporary or whether T-cells will recover if given chance. Note that this is not everybody, however the early indications are that over long term covid may cause an average lowering of general immunity across the population, such that there are many disabilities and deaths from other diseases which would normally have been fought off. This is similar to how the HIV virus does not directly kill people, but causes destruction of the immune system such that trivial infections (cold virus, acne bacteria, athletes foot fungus) can become lethal - not death by HIV but death with HIV, however nonetheless death which would not have happened but for the HIV infection. Totally made up. Where’s your source ? You know just because you don’t like what is being said it doesn’t mean it’s made up. As has been mentioned the Zoe app and the ONS are reporting case numbers. I’m not talking about case numbers. I’m talking about the T Cell stuff which I’ve just spent ages trying to find anything to back it up, with nothing at all appearing. Not to mention the obvious flaw in this claim - that hardly anybody has had covid three times " I don’t know what the overall statistics are but I know two people who have had it three times. | |||
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"Concerned those sadists have fkkd with genes and chromosomes they don't fully understand for a sodding virus with a 99.6% survival rate! 99.06% actually Siri, remind me of this in five years so I can laugh my arse off The fact that to date (that’s today) the survival rate is 99.06% will not have changed in 5 years. If you think that that figure will increase during the next five years when 95% have been jabbed, don’t you think that actually tells you something about the jabs ? No, because I recognise that cause and effect is multifactorial, and I have a basic understanding of vaccine mechanisms (which make mysterious side effects emerging in the long term impossible). I do predict that in five years, if my hypothesis is correct, the Covid era fraudsters will be profiteering by saying it was the vaccines. And they'll have plenty of scientifically illiterate followers who believe them. *Shrug* I care about my health. It's why I'm vaccinated." So, if I’m reading correctly what you said is that the death rate to date is not a final figure, and that a significant amount of the current survivors are likely to die within the next 5 years due to multi factorial causes and effects of COVID ? Blimey, if I’ve understood correctly that’s one hell of a statement to make. I don’t understand whether you are accusing me of being a COVID fraudster or, of being scientifically illiterate. To be clear I am neither !! Maybe you should gain a better qualification than “a basic understanding of vaccine mechanisms” before spouting out as you are with your unqualified 5 year predictions and hypotheses. I completely and utterly respect the choice that you’ve made for your own health, you should allow others to choose their own too. I chose mine and as I’m sure you’ve guessed I have refused all jabs and will undoubtedly continue to do so. My original comment was to correct the incorrect survival rate from 99.6% to 99.06% Credibility will always decrease with statements like: Siri, remind me of this in five years so I can laugh my arse off | |||
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"I have. I expected it, especially after the Jubilee celebrations. I’ve noticed more cases in the local schools (kids and their parents) and amongst friends and acquaintances. The new variant seems to be more contagious so it was to be expected. I just hope it won’t be as deadly as, being a very large woman, it could affect me badly (my last/boister dose was back in October so not sure how much, if any, protection this would give me). I’ll just have to keep on being cautious. Let's see what Glastonbury does to the spread. A little mingling never hurt anyone.." . So this is where the lockdown fanatics and cancel culture all congregate. Stop the world, people are dying !!!!! | |||
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"Concerned those sadists have fkkd with genes and chromosomes they don't fully understand for a sodding virus with a 99.6% survival rate! 99.06% actually Siri, remind me of this in five years so I can laugh my arse off The fact that to date (that’s today) the survival rate is 99.06% will not have changed in 5 years. If you think that that figure will increase during the next five years when 95% have been jabbed, don’t you think that actually tells you something about the jabs ? No, because I recognise that cause and effect is multifactorial, and I have a basic understanding of vaccine mechanisms (which make mysterious side effects emerging in the long term impossible). I do predict that in five years, if my hypothesis is correct, the Covid era fraudsters will be profiteering by saying it was the vaccines. And they'll have plenty of scientifically illiterate followers who believe them. *Shrug* I care about my health. It's why I'm vaccinated. So, if I’m reading correctly what you said is that the death rate to date is not a final figure, and that a significant amount of the current survivors are likely to die within the next 5 years due to multi factorial causes and effects of COVID ? Blimey, if I’ve understood correctly that’s one hell of a statement to make. I don’t understand whether you are accusing me of being a COVID fraudster or, of being scientifically illiterate. To be clear I am neither !! Maybe you should gain a better qualification than “a basic understanding of vaccine mechanisms” before spouting out as you are with your unqualified 5 year predictions and hypotheses. I completely and utterly respect the choice that you’ve made for your own health, you should allow others to choose their own too. I chose mine and as I’m sure you’ve guessed I have refused all jabs and will undoubtedly continue to do so. My original comment was to correct the incorrect survival rate from 99.6% to 99.06% Credibility will always decrease with statements like: Siri, remind me of this in five years so I can laugh my arse off " I never said you were a fraudster. I'm talking about the public figures. You may follow fraudsters, but I have no idea. As I've not claimed to be an expert, I'm not sure why you're concerned with my credentials. I am following the ongoing research. That's all. I've made my prediction, I'm standing by it. If you're so fragile as to think a prediction on the internet is forcing you to do anything, maybe you should ask Popeye for some spinach. You obviously need to toughen up | |||
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"Are people still falling for that nonsense ?? Yeah, people really do think it’s over, mad isn’t it? I still "fall for" science rather than slogans on the internet. More fool me
Yeah , you follow the science , while the "science" follows the money
Lol ok
Meanwhile numerous Brave Noble Truth Tellers have made an awful lot of money out of this pandemic. But the money made by con artists and fraudsters is pure and good, as are all the failed predictions.
As I say, remind me of this in five years, let's see how this is going "Lets have some evidence please, just who are these fraudsters? I mean pfizer is squeaky clean isn't it? | |||
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"Are people still falling for that nonsense ?? Yeah, people really do think it’s over, mad isn’t it? I still "fall for" science rather than slogans on the internet. More fool me
Yeah , you follow the science , while the "science" follows the money
Lol ok
Meanwhile numerous Brave Noble Truth Tellers have made an awful lot of money out of this pandemic. But the money made by con artists and fraudsters is pure and good, as are all the failed predictions.
As I say, remind me of this in five years, let's see how this is going
Lets have some evidence please, just who are these fraudsters?
I mean pfizer is squeaky clean isn't it? "No one on this forum, to my knowledge. Just to be clear. It's not a personal attack on anyone here. I trust that you can do your own research to ascertain for yourself. I have drawn my own conclusions and I'm acting accordingly.  | |||
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"Are people still falling for that nonsense ?? Yeah, people really do think it’s over, mad isn’t it? I still "fall for" science rather than slogans on the internet. More fool me
Yeah , you follow the science , while the "science" follows the money
Lol ok
Meanwhile numerous Brave Noble Truth Tellers have made an awful lot of money out of this pandemic. But the money made by con artists and fraudsters is pure and good, as are all the failed predictions.
As I say, remind me of this in five years, let's see how this is going
Lets have some evidence please, just who are these fraudsters?
I mean pfizer is squeaky clean isn't it? "Blimey, that is like asking how long is a piece of string! You sound like you have had exposure to the world, so I guess you would have witnessed the opportunists coming out of the woodwork to spin a tale or 2 in an attempt to line their pockets. Fraudsters appear in the most horrendous of situations, 9-11 and Grenfell spring to mind and this pandemic has had its fair share fraudsters. | |||
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"Are people still falling for that nonsense ?? Yeah, people really do think it’s over, mad isn’t it? I still "fall for" science rather than slogans on the internet. More fool me
I have done and im not fooled by the BBC or msn etc. I recommend you broaden your search and look llow the science , while the "science" follows the money
Lol ok
Meanwhile numerous Brave Noble Truth Tellers have made an awful lot of money out of this pandemic. But the money made by con artists and fraudsters is pure and good, as are all the failed predictions.
As I say, remind me of this in five years, let's see how this is going
Lets have some evidence please, just who are these fraudsters?
I mean pfizer is squeaky clean isn't it?
No one on this forum, to my knowledge. Just to be clear. It's not a personal attack on anyone here.
I trust that you can do your own research to ascertain for yourself. I have drawn my own conclusions and I'm acting accordingly. "I have done research and I dont believe the BBC, msn or the like. All sensored and controlled. I suggest you broaden your research and look at media that isn't owned by those making billions from this. Yes there will be some people attempting to profit from posting their truths however the effect they will have on public opinion is miniscule in comparison to the power of pfizer bill Gates and all our corrupt governments. | |||
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"Are people still falling for that nonsense ?? Yeah, people really do think it’s over, mad isn’t it? I still "fall for" science rather than slogans on the internet. More fool me
I have done and im not fooled by the BBC or msn etc. I recommend you broaden your search and look llow the science , while the "science" follows the money
Lol ok
Meanwhile numerous Brave Noble Truth Tellers have made an awful lot of money out of this pandemic. But the money made by con artists and fraudsters is pure and good, as are all the failed predictions.
As I say, remind me of this in five years, let's see how this is going
Lets have some evidence please, just who are these fraudsters?
I mean pfizer is squeaky clean isn't it?
No one on this forum, to my knowledge. Just to be clear. It's not a personal attack on anyone here.
I trust that you can do your own research to ascertain for yourself. I have drawn my own conclusions and I'm acting accordingly.
I have done research and I dont believe the BBC, msn or the like. All sensored and controlled.
I suggest you broaden your research and look at media that isn't owned by those making billions from this. Yes there will be some people attempting to profit from posting their truths however the effect they will have on public opinion is miniscule in comparison to the power of pfizer bill Gates and all our corrupt governments."I find it amusing that you jump to me looking to the BBC or other mainstream media censored by governments. (I don't even own a television, for what it's worth) I assume that everyone has their own ways of finding out information, and will not do you the disservice of typecasting you. Although I do find it interesting that all the independent thinkers parrot the same line about the BBC and the mainstream media. Almost as if they've been told what to say? Curious | |||
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"Are people still falling for that nonsense ?? Yeah, people really do think it’s over, mad isn’t it? I still "fall for" science rather than slogans on the internet. More fool me
I have done and im not fooled by the BBC or msn etc. I recommend you broaden your search and look llow the science , while the "science" follows the money
Lol ok
Meanwhile numerous Brave Noble Truth Tellers have made an awful lot of money out of this pandemic. But the money made by con artists and fraudsters is pure and good, as are all the failed predictions.
As I say, remind me of this in five years, let's see how this is going
Lets have some evidence please, just who are these fraudsters?
I mean pfizer is squeaky clean isn't it?
No one on this forum, to my knowledge. Just to be clear. It's not a personal attack on anyone here.
I trust that you can do your own research to ascertain for yourself. I have drawn my own conclusions and I'm acting accordingly.
I have done research and I dont believe the BBC, msn or the like. All sensored and controlled.
I suggest you broaden your research and look at media that isn't owned by those making billions from this. Yes there will be some people attempting to profit from posting their truths however the effect they will have on public opinion is miniscule in comparison to the power of pfizer bill Gates and all our corrupt governments.
I find it amusing that you jump to me looking to the BBC or other mainstream media censored by governments. (I don't even own a television, for what it's worth)
I assume that everyone has their own ways of finding out information, and will not do you the disservice of typecasting you. Although I do find it interesting that all the independent thinkers parrot the same line about the BBC and the mainstream media. Almost as if they've been told what to say? Curious"If you don't watch it you won't know then. I formed my opinion about the BBC and others way before covud came along. | |||
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"A couple of days ago new cases rate was reported to have hit 250,000 per day. Today reported as having increased to 270,000 per day. During last week an estimated 1.7 million people had covid, increased from 1.36 million the week before. Now 7,800 hospital beds filled by covid patients, up by 2000 since the previous week. Meanwhile medical studies are showing that with each successive infection the body's immune system takes an increased battering. After three infections some people now measuring T-cell counts lower than AIDS sufferers; it is not yet known if this will be temporary or whether T-cells will recover if given chance. Note that this is not everybody, however the early indications are that over long term covid may cause an average lowering of general immunity across the population, such that there are many disabilities and deaths from other diseases which would normally have been fought off. This is similar to how the HIV virus does not directly kill people, but causes destruction of the immune system such that trivial infections (cold virus, acne bacteria, athletes foot fungus) can become lethal - not death by HIV but death with HIV, however nonetheless death which would not have happened but for the HIV infection. Totally made up. Where’s your source ? You know just because you don’t like what is being said it doesn’t mean it’s made up. As has been mentioned the Zoe app and the ONS are reporting case numbers. I’m not talking about case numbers. I’m talking about the T Cell stuff which I’ve just spent ages trying to find anything to back it up, with nothing at all appearing. Not to mention the obvious flaw in this claim - that hardly anybody has had covid three times I don’t know what the overall statistics are but I know two people who have had it three times." Two people out of how many that you know? And are those two people now dying of a HIV-like illness? | |||
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"Are people still falling for that nonsense ?? Yeah, people really do think it’s over, mad isn’t it? I still "fall for" science rather than slogans on the internet. More fool me
I have done and im not fooled by the BBC or msn etc. I recommend you broaden your search and look llow the science , while the "science" follows the money
Lol ok
Meanwhile numerous Brave Noble Truth Tellers have made an awful lot of money out of this pandemic. But the money made by con artists and fraudsters is pure and good, as are all the failed predictions.
As I say, remind me of this in five years, let's see how this is going
Lets have some evidence please, just who are these fraudsters?
I mean pfizer is squeaky clean isn't it?
No one on this forum, to my knowledge. Just to be clear. It's not a personal attack on anyone here.
I trust that you can do your own research to ascertain for yourself. I have drawn my own conclusions and I'm acting accordingly.
I have done research and I dont believe the BBC, msn or the like. All sensored and controlled.
I suggest you broaden your research and look at media that isn't owned by those making billions from this. Yes there will be some people attempting to profit from posting their truths however the effect they will have on public opinion is miniscule in comparison to the power of pfizer bill Gates and all our corrupt governments.
I find it amusing that you jump to me looking to the BBC or other mainstream media censored by governments. (I don't even own a television, for what it's worth)
I assume that everyone has their own ways of finding out information, and will not do you the disservice of typecasting you. Although I do find it interesting that all the independent thinkers parrot the same line about the BBC and the mainstream media. Almost as if they've been told what to say? Curious
If you don't watch it you won't know then. I formed my opinion about the BBC and others way before covud came along. "You suggest that I'm relying on the media owned by billionaires. You're mistaken. My comment on the repetition of BBC/MSM remarks is not limited to Covid, either. It's fascinating to me that people can claim to have done independent research and not just come to similar conclusions, but also repeat back the same lines as though it were from rote memorisation. Something they had been taught, evidence against independent thought. | |||
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"Are people still falling for that nonsense ?? Yeah, people really do think it’s over, mad isn’t it? I still "fall for" science rather than slogans on the internet. More fool me
I have done and im not fooled by the BBC or msn etc. I recommend you broaden your search and look llow the science , while the "science" follows the money
Lol ok
Meanwhile numerous Brave Noble Truth Tellers have made an awful lot of money out of this pandemic. But the money made by con artists and fraudsters is pure and good, as are all the failed predictions.
As I say, remind me of this in five years, let's see how this is going
Lets have some evidence please, just who are these fraudsters?
I mean pfizer is squeaky clean isn't it?
No one on this forum, to my knowledge. Just to be clear. It's not a personal attack on anyone here.
I trust that you can do your own research to ascertain for yourself. I have drawn my own conclusions and I'm acting accordingly.
I have done research and I dont believe the BBC, msn or the like. All sensored and controlled.
I suggest you broaden your research and look at media that isn't owned by those making billions from this. Yes there will be some people attempting to profit from posting their truths however the effect they will have on public opinion is miniscule in comparison to the power of pfizer bill Gates and all our corrupt governments.
I find it amusing that you jump to me looking to the BBC or other mainstream media censored by governments. (I don't even own a television, for what it's worth)
I assume that everyone has their own ways of finding out information, and will not do you the disservice of typecasting you. Although I do find it interesting that all the independent thinkers parrot the same line about the BBC and the mainstream media. Almost as if they've been told what to say? Curious
If you don't watch it you won't know then. I formed my opinion about the BBC and others way before covud came along.
You suggest that I'm relying on the media owned by billionaires. You're mistaken.
My comment on the repetition of BBC/MSM remarks is not limited to Covid, either. It's fascinating to me that people can claim to have done independent research and not just come to similar conclusions, but also repeat back the same lines as though it were from rote memorisation. Something they had been taught, evidence against independent thought."Yes very strange how people come to the same conclusion possibly because they might be correct? The same argument goes both ways | |||
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"Are people still falling for that nonsense ?? Yeah, people really do think it’s over, mad isn’t it? I still "fall for" science rather than slogans on the internet. More fool me
I have done and im not fooled by the BBC or msn etc. I recommend you broaden your search and look llow the science , while the "science" follows the money
Lol ok
Meanwhile numerous Brave Noble Truth Tellers have made an awful lot of money out of this pandemic. But the money made by con artists and fraudsters is pure and good, as are all the failed predictions.
As I say, remind me of this in five years, let's see how this is going
Lets have some evidence please, just who are these fraudsters?
I mean pfizer is squeaky clean isn't it?
No one on this forum, to my knowledge. Just to be clear. It's not a personal attack on anyone here.
I trust that you can do your own research to ascertain for yourself. I have drawn my own conclusions and I'm acting accordingly.
I have done research and I dont believe the BBC, msn or the like. All sensored and controlled.
I suggest you broaden your research and look at media that isn't owned by those making billions from this. Yes there will be some people attempting to profit from posting their truths however the effect they will have on public opinion is miniscule in comparison to the power of pfizer bill Gates and all our corrupt governments.
I find it amusing that you jump to me looking to the BBC or other mainstream media censored by governments. (I don't even own a television, for what it's worth)
I assume that everyone has their own ways of finding out information, and will not do you the disservice of typecasting you. Although I do find it interesting that all the independent thinkers parrot the same line about the BBC and the mainstream media. Almost as if they've been told what to say? Curious
If you don't watch it you won't know then. I formed my opinion about the BBC and others way before covud came along.
You suggest that I'm relying on the media owned by billionaires. You're mistaken.
My comment on the repetition of BBC/MSM remarks is not limited to Covid, either. It's fascinating to me that people can claim to have done independent research and not just come to similar conclusions, but also repeat back the same lines as though it were from rote memorisation. Something they had been taught, evidence against independent thought.
Yes very strange how people come to the same conclusion possibly because they might be correct?
The same argument goes both ways "Did I say the same conclusion? I said the same verbiage. I'd expect natural variation if people had come to independent conclusions. Instead, it's near identical in most cases. The herd bleat about the BBC and Pfizer | |||
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"No testing, no reporting so how’d anyone know 1 If they’ve got it 2. If cases are rising or falling My colleagues and I are all still testing, and there’s a pretty big increase in folk getting it over the last fortnight or so. Other measures like Zoe and the ONS too. " Sorry me ignorant what’s Zoe and Ons. Track and trace is gone thought that’s how the numbers were known , as well as hospital admissions.. | |||
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"No testing, no reporting so how’d anyone know 1 If they’ve got it 2. If cases are rising or falling My colleagues and I are all still testing, and there’s a pretty big increase in folk getting it over the last fortnight or so. Other measures like Zoe and the ONS too. Sorry me ignorant what’s Zoe and Ons. Track and trace is gone thought that’s how the numbers were known , as well as hospital admissions.." Hospital admissions are still measured. The ONS does an infection survey, and Zoe have a symptom tracker app that's been running since early in the pandemic. | |||
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"Are people still falling for that nonsense ?? Yeah, people really do think it’s over, mad isn’t it? I still "fall for" science rather than slogans on the internet. More fool me
I have done and im not fooled by the BBC or msn etc. I recommend you broaden your search and look llow the science , while the "science" follows the money
Lol ok
Meanwhile numerous Brave Noble Truth Tellers have made an awful lot of money out of this pandemic. But the money made by con artists and fraudsters is pure and good, as are all the failed predictions.
As I say, remind me of this in five years, let's see how this is going
Lets have some evidence please, just who are these fraudsters?
I mean pfizer is squeaky clean isn't it?
No one on this forum, to my knowledge. Just to be clear. It's not a personal attack on anyone here.
I trust that you can do your own research to ascertain for yourself. I have drawn my own conclusions and I'm acting accordingly.
I have done research and I dont believe the BBC, msn or the like. All sensored and controlled.
I suggest you broaden your research and look at media that isn't owned by those making billions from this. Yes there will be some people attempting to profit from posting their truths however the effect they will have on public opinion is miniscule in comparison to the power of pfizer bill Gates and all our corrupt governments.
I find it amusing that you jump to me looking to the BBC or other mainstream media censored by governments. (I don't even own a television, for what it's worth)
I assume that everyone has their own ways of finding out information, and will not do you the disservice of typecasting you. Although I do find it interesting that all the independent thinkers parrot the same line about the BBC and the mainstream media. Almost as if they've been told what to say? Curious
If you don't watch it you won't know then. I formed my opinion about the BBC and others way before covud came along.
You suggest that I'm relying on the media owned by billionaires. You're mistaken.
My comment on the repetition of BBC/MSM remarks is not limited to Covid, either. It's fascinating to me that people can claim to have done independent research and not just come to similar conclusions, but also repeat back the same lines as though it were from rote memorisation. Something they had been taught, evidence against independent thought.
Yes very strange how people come to the same conclusion possibly because they might be correct?
The same argument goes both ways
Did I say the same conclusion? I said the same verbiage. I'd expect natural variation if people had come to independent conclusions.
Instead, it's near identical in most cases. The herd bleat about the BBC and Pfizer "I love your terminology. Its like you are attempting to wind people up. | |||
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"Are people still falling for that nonsense ?? Yeah, people really do think it’s over, mad isn’t it? I still "fall for" science rather than slogans on the internet. More fool me
I have done and im not fooled by the BBC or msn etc. I recommend you broaden your search and look llow the science , while the "science" follows the money
Lol ok
Meanwhile numerous Brave Noble Truth Tellers have made an awful lot of money out of this pandemic. But the money made by con artists and fraudsters is pure and good, as are all the failed predictions.
As I say, remind me of this in five years, let's see how this is going
Lets have some evidence please, just who are these fraudsters?
I mean pfizer is squeaky clean isn't it?
No one on this forum, to my knowledge. Just to be clear. It's not a personal attack on anyone here.
I trust that you can do your own research to ascertain for yourself. I have drawn my own conclusions and I'm acting accordingly.
I have done research and I dont believe the BBC, msn or the like. All sensored and controlled.
I suggest you broaden your research and look at media that isn't owned by those making billions from this. Yes there will be some people attempting to profit from posting their truths however the effect they will have on public opinion is miniscule in comparison to the power of pfizer bill Gates and all our corrupt governments.
I find it amusing that you jump to me looking to the BBC or other mainstream media censored by governments. (I don't even own a television, for what it's worth)
I assume that everyone has their own ways of finding out information, and will not do you the disservice of typecasting you. Although I do find it interesting that all the independent thinkers parrot the same line about the BBC and the mainstream media. Almost as if they've been told what to say? Curious
If you don't watch it you won't know then. I formed my opinion about the BBC and others way before covud came along.
You suggest that I'm relying on the media owned by billionaires. You're mistaken.
My comment on the repetition of BBC/MSM remarks is not limited to Covid, either. It's fascinating to me that people can claim to have done independent research and not just come to similar conclusions, but also repeat back the same lines as though it were from rote memorisation. Something they had been taught, evidence against independent thought.
Yes very strange how people come to the same conclusion possibly because they might be correct?
The same argument goes both ways
Did I say the same conclusion? I said the same verbiage. I'd expect natural variation if people had come to independent conclusions.
Instead, it's near identical in most cases. The herd bleat about the BBC and Pfizer
I love your terminology. Its like you are attempting to wind people up.
"Evidence is when the vaccine zhars on here all join in using the same tin hat quotes. I find it all very amusing | |||
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"Lockdowns soon, a top name supermarket putting all the mask and distance signs back up.. Check yoirs the next time you shop. " And would you care to elaborate on your claim? | |||
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"Supermarkets " C’mon, name names….. you made claims, back them up with facts. | |||
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"Lockdowns soon, a top name supermarket putting all the mask and distance signs back up.. Check yoirs the next time you shop. " Mine has removed the separate entrance and exit signs, but has installed gating (to reduce shop lifting I guess?) And the company I've bought masks from isn't saying get them because Covid, they're saying get them because pollen and pollution *shrug* | |||
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"I have seen/noticed more people wearing masks over the last week." Still plenty of people out there who read the Daily Mail | |||
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"Lockdowns soon, a top name supermarket putting all the mask and distance signs back up.. Check yoirs the next time you shop. " Price of petrol, people will stop driving soon anyway. | |||
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"I have seen/noticed more people wearing masks over the last week." . Well i can only speak as i find, but in central london a mask is quite a rare sight i can assure you. The vast majority being vaccinated and not considering themselves as particularly vulnerable really aren’t bothered about the virus. | |||
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"I have seen/noticed more people wearing masks over the last week.. Well i can only speak as i find, but in central london a mask is quite a rare sight i can assure you. The vast majority being vaccinated and not considering themselves as particularly vulnerable really aren’t bothered about the virus. " Wonder how effective the vaccine is now in the general population given we were told by UKHSA it pretty much expires after a few months against omicron. I mean.. Wonderful if it is significant but given the statements over the last year... Taken at face value I can't imagine it's doing a huge amount a year on. Hence the need for boosters | |||
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"Considering I am supposed to be in a traditional hot spot, no nothing happening at all, everyone going about life as normal, young and old, disabled and able bodied….." Now that is worth a headline! | |||
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"I have seen/noticed more people wearing masks over the last week.. Well i can only speak as i find, but in central london a mask is quite a rare sight i can assure you. The vast majority being vaccinated and not considering themselves as particularly vulnerable really aren’t bothered about the virus. Wonder how effective the vaccine is now in the general population given we were told by UKHSA it pretty much expires after a few months against omicron. I mean.. Wonderful if it is significant but given the statements over the last year... Taken at face value I can't imagine it's doing a huge amount a year on. Hence the need for boosters " I had the vaccines plus booster, but I'm not sure I would take another booster now. I would really like to know how dangerous this variant of covid actually is, and if catching it, would the antibodies produced naturally be better or worse than taking the vaccine. Not anti or pro anything, I would like some real info to make a considered choice. | |||
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"I have seen/noticed more people wearing masks over the last week.. Well i can only speak as i find, but in central london a mask is quite a rare sight i can assure you. The vast majority being vaccinated and not considering themselves as particularly vulnerable really aren’t bothered about the virus. Wonder how effective the vaccine is now in the general population given we were told by UKHSA it pretty much expires after a few months against omicron. I mean.. Wonderful if it is significant but given the statements over the last year... Taken at face value I can't imagine it's doing a huge amount a year on. Hence the need for boosters I had the vaccines plus booster, but I'm not sure I would take another booster now. I would really like to know how dangerous this variant of covid actually is, and if catching it, would the antibodies produced naturally be better or worse than taking the vaccine. Not anti or pro anything, I would like some real info to make a considered choice. " Agreed there does seem to be a bit of an information void as we run into the inevitable media barrage. | |||
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"I have seen/noticed more people wearing masks over the last week.. Well i can only speak as i find, but in central london a mask is quite a rare sight i can assure you. The vast majority being vaccinated and not considering themselves as particularly vulnerable really aren’t bothered about the virus. Wonder how effective the vaccine is now in the general population given we were told by UKHSA it pretty much expires after a few months against omicron. I mean.. Wonderful if it is significant but given the statements over the last year... Taken at face value I can't imagine it's doing a huge amount a year on. Hence the need for boosters I had the vaccines plus booster, but I'm not sure I would take another booster now. I would really like to know how dangerous this variant of covid actually is, and if catching it, would the antibodies produced naturally be better or worse than taking the vaccine. Not anti or pro anything, I would like some real info to make a considered choice. Agreed there does seem to be a bit of an information void as we run into the inevitable media barrage. " . No one i know ever mentions the virus nowadays. Unless you know you are vulnerable everyone is back to nornal life. Only time i see anything on the subject is here. Me thinks there are a few on here with not much else going on in life. | |||
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"I have seen/noticed more people wearing masks over the last week." I've not stopped wearing mine in shops etc x | |||
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"I have seen/noticed more people wearing masks over the last week.. Well i can only speak as i find, but in central london a mask is quite a rare sight i can assure you. The vast majority being vaccinated and not considering themselves as particularly vulnerable really aren’t bothered about the virus. Wonder how effective the vaccine is now in the general population given we were told by UKHSA it pretty much expires after a few months against omicron. I mean.. Wonderful if it is significant but given the statements over the last year... Taken at face value I can't imagine it's doing a huge amount a year on. Hence the need for boosters I had the vaccines plus booster, but I'm not sure I would take another booster now. I would really like to know how dangerous this variant of covid actually is, and if catching it, would the antibodies produced naturally be better or worse than taking the vaccine. Not anti or pro anything, I would like some real info to make a considered choice. " Research is now showing that antibodies from catching covid are worth absolutely jack shit at protecting you against future re-infection. And in fact that each bout of covid causes further depletion of your reserve of T-cells, actively increasing your susceptibility to not only further covid, but to every other disease on the planet. It is not known yet whether over time the T-cells will regenerate, but evidence suggests that in the case of long covid where traces of virus remain in the system, the depletion may be an ongoing process. The end result could very well be not dissimilar to the effects of HIV. With HIV the human race was quite lucky that the spread was very slow, so that people started dropping dead before the entire population was infected. In the case of covid though, we may well be totally buggered because at the five year point where immune deficiency would start killing people, there will be something like 99% of the population already infected and waiting for the inevitable. Herd immunity? More like total herd infection. | |||
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