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"I don't know about fake but definitely don't think there's much truth in the figures they come out with. There's something going on " Like what? And why would they make figures up? | |||
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"I don't know about fake but definitely don't think there's much truth in the figures they come out with. There's something going on " You maybe right. Deaths and infections are a lot higher than the published figures. But in a lot of countries such as brasil,china or russia for example it is politically best to underplay civid deaths and infections. | |||
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"I don't know about fake but definitely don't think there's much truth in the figures they come out with. There's something going on Like what? And why would they make figures up? " Well they wouldn't, governments don't do that kind of thing  | |||
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"I don't know about fake but definitely don't think there's much truth in the figures they come out with. There's something going on You maybe right. Deaths and infections are a lot higher than the published figures. But in a lot of countries such as brasil,china or russia for example it is politically best to underplay civid deaths and infections." I think infections may be higher but not the deaths, I'm not saying there haven't been a lot of deaths due to covid just that they are giving a higher total than there is. | |||
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"What evidence do you have that its fake? I'd like you to have a chat with my relative who's a critical care nurse and still claim its fake " Yeah this  | |||
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"Sure a global cover up with all the deaths and every economy wanting to go into recession. Jeese some simpletons around. " | |||
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"I don't know about fake but definitely don't think there's much truth in the figures they come out with. There's something going on Like what? And why would they make figures up? Well they wouldn't, governments don't do that kind of thing "Why would they? | |||
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"100% fake!! " 100% deluded | |||
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"As of 19 March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious disease (HCID) in the UK. Gov.uk" How does that work when it was end of march they called for lockdown? | |||
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"Don’t abuse people because they have a difference of opinion to you " | |||
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"Thoughts ?" Have a chat to hospital staff or funeral homes you may learn something | |||
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"i know 3 people who have had it, what a stupid statement to make "Its not stupid just exploring another avenues. | |||
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"Thoughts ? Have a chat to hospital staff or funeral homes you may learn something "I have been, its my duty | |||
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"Half a million dead worldwide . . What idiot would think its fake !" Ok, lets do maths 500,000 divided by 7.8 Billion people = ? Your odds are ? | |||
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"i know 3 people who have had it, what a stupid statement to make Its not stupid just exploring another avenues. "No filter for free speech. Speak your mind | |||
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"What evidence do you have that its fake? I'd like you to have a chat with my relative who's a critical care nurse and still claim its fake " I don’t think it’s a question of it being fake. I feel the question was worded wrongly, and it’s being suggested that the virus is man made. And it 100% is. Whether it has been released to control population or its a trial that went too far (insert conspiracy theory here) it is definitely man made | |||
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"4 days later" Are you suggesting that we have been in lockdown for nothing? Well not nothing but that this virus isn't "as bad as its made out" for want of a term? | |||
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"Half a million dead worldwide . . What idiot would think its fake ! Ok, lets do maths 500,000 divided by 7.8 Billion people = ? Your odds are ?" 0.000064 so...not to bad Way it was handled it a complete fuck show btw x | |||
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"What evidence do you have that its fake? I'd like you to have a chat with my relative who's a critical care nurse and still claim its fake I don’t think it’s a question of it being fake. I feel the question was worded wrongly, and it’s being suggested that the virus is man made. And it 100% is. Whether it has been released to control population or its a trial that went too far (insert conspiracy theory here) it is definitely man made " Either way, we will never know. So b1tch at each other for having different opinions, but no one is right or wrong. People have died. And are still dying. Whether it’s man made or not. I’m just interested to see the 19/20 flu death figures | |||
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"Tell it to the people who have lost loved ones. " Or the ones who work or have family members who are front line NHS. I'd tell.the doubters to just pop down the local hospital, mask free if they are so confident in their opinions but the NHS does not need that shit | |||
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"4 days later Are you suggesting that we have been in lockdown for nothing? Well not nothing but that this virus isn't "as bad as its made out" for want of a term? " We may be experiencing what has been titled "Lock Step". A publication from 2012, which cites certain possibilities in the wake of an epidemic. There are a lot of angles. World Economic Forum is an interesting, if very concerning, read. | |||
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"Tell it to the people who have lost loved ones. Or the ones who work or have family members who are front line NHS. I'd tell.the doubters to just pop down the local hospital, mask free if they are so confident in their opinions but the NHS does not need that shit" Ive bèen to hospital and test centre.. All action when the cameras are rolling, deserted when theyre not. | |||
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"Conspiracy theory people don't like to think there is no one in control and we are careering into the future blind. Therefore the fantasy of some mysterious and powerful elite running things is in a funny way comforting to them. Newsflash: there ain't no mummy and daddy, god, goddess, aliens or whatever. It's us." Like all the other pandemics before that came and went (eventually. The ‘plague’ as one example). I agree with you to some degree. Not everything needs a conspiracy theory either but we will never know who is right or wrong. And I’m also ok with that. | |||
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"People who think this is a fake pandemic are devoid of any logical intelligence, Stupid.. " And people who aren’t open minded enough to accept valid points from other people’s opinions are equally stupid. You can acknowledge an opinion which is different to yours. Putting on the blinkers, being narrow minded and commenting on a discussion without an open mind makes someone even more stu-pid | |||
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"Conspiracy theory people don't like to think there is no one in control and we are careering into the future blind. Therefore the fantasy of some mysterious and powerful elite running things is in a funny way comforting to them. Newsflash: there ain't no mummy and daddy, god, goddess, aliens or whatever. It's us." | |||
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"I would interested to know why some people believe covid 19 is fake is this so they can go about their daily business by ignoring lockdown without giving a flying **** for anyone else. Just saying" There is a difference between people saying something is fake and saying it is manmade. If you are referring to me, I absolutely acknowledge it is real. We will just never agree on the reasoning and we will never know the truth either. And I’m intelligent enough to be ok with that | |||
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"People who think this is a fake pandemic are devoid of any logical intelligence, Stupid.. " Conversely, some might say people who think this is a real pandemic are devoid of any logical intelligence, stupid... If you are able to explain your strange statement, perhaps it would help us to understand where you are coming from. xx | |||
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"People who think this is a fake pandemic are devoid of any logical intelligence, Stupid.. And people who aren’t open minded enough to accept valid points from other people’s opinions are equally stupid. You can acknowledge an opinion which is different to yours. Putting on the blinkers, being narrow minded and commenting on a discussion without an open mind makes someone even more stu-pid " Nail on the head ! | |||
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"People who think this is a fake pandemic are devoid of any logical intelligence, Stupid.. And people who aren’t open minded enough to accept valid points from other people’s opinions are equally stupid. You can acknowledge an opinion which is different to yours. Putting on the blinkers, being narrow minded and commenting on a discussion without an open mind makes someone even more stu-pid " I have an open minded and do consider others opinions. It is my opinion that people who deny this pandemic is real are Stupid. | |||
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"People who think this is a fake pandemic are devoid of any logical intelligence, Stupid.. And people who aren’t open minded enough to accept valid points from other people’s opinions are equally stupid. You can acknowledge an opinion which is different to yours. Putting on the blinkers, being narrow minded and commenting on a discussion without an open mind makes someone even more stu-pid I have an open minded and do consider others opinions. It is my opinion that people who deny this pandemic is real are Stupid. " Just like my opinion is that people who either A) obviously can’t read people’s posts who intelligently challenge a differing opinion on an open forum or B) choose to twist and manipulate other people’s posts to fit into their trolling agenda are even more stupiderrrr | |||
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"You are welcome to say/ write or think anything you like, just don’t expect your opinion, to be given as much credence as facts... And that.... that’s what wrong with the internet! " Haha Internet has nothing to bo with it. Will you blame the newsreaders on every available station, every medical advice given on them, every scientific advice given on them, and all of these given in person. Yes it's all over the Internet but also in real time by real experts. I don't know what you are an expert in, I could guess though. | |||
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"I would interested to know why some people believe covid 19 is fake is this so they can go about their daily business by ignoring lockdown without giving a flying **** for anyone else. Just saying" How can it be fake when it was known about years ago? I think a lot of folk just generally don't care   | |||
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 typical narrow minded media sheep. Involving yourself in a discussion requires some ability/ maturity of acknowledging differing opinions, rather than scan reading, picking out key words and misquoting people to suit you. I won’t debate with stupid. | |||
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"Just because people think something isn’t right with the whole thing, doesn’t mean they are saying the whole thing is fake typical narrow minded media sheep. Involving yourself in a discussion requires some ability/ maturity of acknowledging differing opinions, rather than scan reading, picking out key words and misquoting people to suit you. I won’t debate with stupid. "Call people “sheeple” (which is ironic since that’s a buzzword) and then mentions maturity | |||
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"Just because people think something isn’t right with the whole thing, doesn’t mean they are saying the whole thing is fake typical narrow minded media sheep. Involving yourself in a discussion requires some ability/ maturity of acknowledging differing opinions, rather than scan reading, picking out key words and misquoting people to suit you. I won’t debate with stupid.
Call people “sheeple” (which is ironic since that’s a buzzword) and then mentions maturity "I literally didn’t use thosse words which proves my point of people misquoting others god I hate being right all the time  | |||
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"No not at all, just saying if someone has some strong proven facts to back up it's fake then I will consider the probability. If what we are seeing from around the world from many numerous sources is fake then a lot of people are going to a lot of trouble and doing a fantastic job of making us believe it. The trouble is there is just so much fake news out there and it's purposely done to sell newspapers, get numbers up on social media and to cover up the truth. Me, well I sit in 'this shit is real' camp and I am not one bit surprised at it happening or the speed of which it has spread as we have all become to blinkered and as the superior species on the planet we think we are invincible. I also have no doubt that a 2nd wave is coming and that I fear it will be more devastating ( I hope people prove me wrong and laugh at me as I'd be happy to laugh with them) but even if I am wrong and we don't get a 2nd wave we will still have to deal with massive unemployment, a backlog of urgent medical procedures, a big rise in mental health and yet more division
"Don’t misinterpret or misquote a differing opinion based on the CAUSE and REASONING behind the whole thing, and defend the ‘this is real’ camp. I’m not saying it isn’t real. If people read things properly before getting on that high horse there would be less conflict. | |||
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"Just because people think something isn’t right with the whole thing, doesn’t mean they are saying the whole thing is fake typical narrow minded media sheep. Involving yourself in a discussion requires some ability/ maturity of acknowledging differing opinions, rather than scan reading, picking out key words and misquoting people to suit you. I won’t debate with stupid.
Call people “sheeple” (which is ironic since that’s a buzzword) and then mentions maturity
I literally didn’t use thosse words which proves my point of people misquoting others god I hate being right all the time "Haha I admit I read sheep wrong. Still same applies | |||
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"Just because people think something isn’t right with the whole thing, doesn’t mean they are saying the whole thing is fake typical narrow minded media sheep. Involving yourself in a discussion requires some ability/ maturity of acknowledging differing opinions, rather than scan reading, picking out key words and misquoting people to suit you. I won’t debate with stupid.
Call people “sheeple” (which is ironic since that’s a buzzword) and then mentions maturity
I literally didn’t use thosse words which proves my point of people misquoting others god I hate being right all the time
Haha I admit I read sheep wrong. Still same applies "That’s a start. Gold star for you lol. People see a different opinion to the OP on a forum like this and turn savage. It just makes you look thick. A forum is a place to discuss things and by posting a topic or opinion publicly on somewhere like this, you can’t take the moral high ground and quote your opinion as facts just because someone has dared to say they think differently to you. Goodnight  | |||
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I don’t even need to say another word to prove my point | |||
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"Twats. Implying it's fake. " well said | |||
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"No not at all, just saying if someone has some strong proven facts to back up it's fake then I will consider the probability. If what we are seeing from around the world from many numerous sources is fake then a lot of people are going to a lot of trouble and doing a fantastic job of making us believe it. The trouble is there is just so much fake news out there and it's purposely done to sell newspapers, get numbers up on social media and to cover up the truth. Me, well I sit in 'this shit is real' camp and I am not one bit surprised at it happening or the speed of which it has spread as we have all become to blinkered and as the superior species on the planet we think we are invincible. I also have no doubt that a 2nd wave is coming and that I fear it will be more devastating ( I hope people prove me wrong and laugh at me as I'd be happy to laugh with them) but even if I am wrong and we don't get a 2nd wave we will still have to deal with massive unemployment, a backlog of urgent medical procedures, a big rise in mental health and yet more division
"I don't think at all you will be proven wrong, a second wave will be coming. Whether it will be worse or not we won't know until it happens. Quarantine ban is being lifted for anyone coming here, does that say that we are no longer at risk? That the government & whoever think its all under control? Again who knows what the reasons or logic are but what mixed signals does that give? We have all seen the crowded beach pictures, I can only imagine what places & people are going to be like next week.
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"People are free to have whatever opinion they wish but this should not be stated as fact for example the claims that Covid has a lower death rate than seasonal Flu a simple check on the figures shows that the average deaths per year from flu in the UK are less than half of the Covid deaths so far and there are no measures like social distancing or a lockdown for flu. The origin ov Covid may never be known but is most likely (in my opinion not fact) that it is a natural mutation of one of the many Corona viruses that have been about for years just like Flu mutates all the time." Whether we agree or not, you give reasoning to both sides in your answer, so thank you for stepping outside the ‘I can’t be bothered reading a full post and will twist the words I know how to read to make myself look stu-pid ’ camp. I think Covid 19 will always linger, just like the flu. No matter how different our opinions are on how it’s got to this point | |||
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"No not at all, just saying if someone has some strong proven facts to back up it's fake then I will consider the probability. If what we are seeing from around the world from many numerous sources is fake then a lot of people are going to a lot of trouble and doing a fantastic job of making us believe it. The trouble is there is just so much fake news out there and it's purposely done to sell newspapers, get numbers up on social media and to cover up the truth. Me, well I sit in 'this shit is real' camp and I am not one bit surprised at it happening or the speed of which it has spread as we have all become to blinkered and as the superior species on the planet we think we are invincible. I also have no doubt that a 2nd wave is coming and that I fear it will be more devastating ( I hope people prove me wrong and laugh at me as I'd be happy to laugh with them) but even if I am wrong and we don't get a 2nd wave we will still have to deal with massive unemployment, a backlog of urgent medical procedures, a big rise in mental health and yet more division
I don't think at all you will be proven wrong, a second wave will be coming. Whether it will be worse or not we won't know until it happens.
Quarantine ban is being lifted for anyone coming here, does that say that we are no longer at risk? That the government & whoever think its all under control? Again who knows what the reasons or logic are but what mixed signals does that give?
We have all seen the crowded beach pictures, I can only imagine what places & people are going to be like next week.
"Yes just like the BLM and anti-BLM rallies the other week. Many people believed there would be a massive resurgence of Covid-19 cases. Guess what ? There wasn't. | |||
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"It would probably be on a level with faking space missions. The sheer volume of people involved in just 1 small country would be phenomenal but this is the world. Provides some evidence because there are mountains of credible evidence that it's real. " Dear lord. Give me strength. And im not even religious. People having a different opinion on the origin does NOT translate to them calling it FAKE. Stop reading what you want to read. This is getting exhausting now. Read | |||
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"No not at all, just saying if someone has some strong proven facts to back up it's fake then I will consider the probability. If what we are seeing from around the world from many numerous sources is fake then a lot of people are going to a lot of trouble and doing a fantastic job of making us believe it. The trouble is there is just so much fake news out there and it's purposely done to sell newspapers, get numbers up on social media and to cover up the truth. Me, well I sit in 'this shit is real' camp and I am not one bit surprised at it happening or the speed of which it has spread as we have all become to blinkered and as the superior species on the planet we think we are invincible. I also have no doubt that a 2nd wave is coming and that I fear it will be more devastating ( I hope people prove me wrong and laugh at me as I'd be happy to laugh with them) but even if I am wrong and we don't get a 2nd wave we will still have to deal with massive unemployment, a backlog of urgent medical procedures, a big rise in mental health and yet more division
I don't think at all you will be proven wrong, a second wave will be coming. Whether it will be worse or not we won't know until it happens.
Quarantine ban is being lifted for anyone coming here, does that say that we are no longer at risk? That the government & whoever think its all under control? Again who knows what the reasons or logic are but what mixed signals does that give?
We have all seen the crowded beach pictures, I can only imagine what places & people are going to be like next week.
Yes just like the BLM and anti-BLM rallies the other week. Many people believed there would be a massive resurgence of Covid-19 cases. Guess what ? There wasn't.
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"Jesus H there are some piss poor trolls on here these days and, quite frankly, some people who really shouldn't be let out in public. This country and a large proportion of the population are an embarrassment. If only COVID would do us all a favour and take them out and leave those with half a brain cell it might not be all doom and gloom. " What a nice pleasant thing to say. You are clearly a lovely guy ! Give me strength ! | |||
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"No not at all, just saying if someone has some strong proven facts to back up it's fake then I will consider the probability. If what we are seeing from around the world from many numerous sources is fake then a lot of people are going to a lot of trouble and doing a fantastic job of making us believe it. The trouble is there is just so much fake news out there and it's purposely done to sell newspapers, get numbers up on social media and to cover up the truth. Me, well I sit in 'this shit is real' camp and I am not one bit surprised at it happening or the speed of which it has spread as we have all become to blinkered and as the superior species on the planet we think we are invincible. I also have no doubt that a 2nd wave is coming and that I fear it will be more devastating ( I hope people prove me wrong and laugh at me as I'd be happy to laugh with them) but even if I am wrong and we don't get a 2nd wave we will still have to deal with massive unemployment, a backlog of urgent medical procedures, a big rise in mental health and yet more division
I don't think at all you will be proven wrong, a second wave will be coming. Whether it will be worse or not we won't know until it happens.
Quarantine ban is being lifted for anyone coming here, does that say that we are no longer at risk? That the government & whoever think its all under control? Again who knows what the reasons or logic are but what mixed signals does that give?
We have all seen the crowded beach pictures, I can only imagine what places & people are going to be like next week.
Yes just like the BLM and anti-BLM rallies the other week. Many people believed there would be a massive resurgence of Covid-19 cases. Guess what ? There wasn't.
Wasn't there? I wouldn't know to be honest I've stayed locked up away from folk. "I see. Maybe I just made it all up then ! Lol | |||
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"No not at all, just saying if someone has some strong proven facts to back up it's fake then I will consider the probability. If what we are seeing from around the world from many numerous sources is fake then a lot of people are going to a lot of trouble and doing a fantastic job of making us believe it. The trouble is there is just so much fake news out there and it's purposely done to sell newspapers, get numbers up on social media and to cover up the truth. Me, well I sit in 'this shit is real' camp and I am not one bit surprised at it happening or the speed of which it has spread as we have all become to blinkered and as the superior species on the planet we think we are invincible. I also have no doubt that a 2nd wave is coming and that I fear it will be more devastating ( I hope people prove me wrong and laugh at me as I'd be happy to laugh with them) but even if I am wrong and we don't get a 2nd wave we will still have to deal with massive unemployment, a backlog of urgent medical procedures, a big rise in mental health and yet more division
Don’t misinterpret or misquote a differing opinion based on the CAUSE and REASONING behind the whole thing, and defend the ‘this is real’ camp. I’m not saying it isn’t real. If people read things properly before getting on that high horse there would be less conflict. "i am not sure when you became the custodian of this thread but the post you quote and get all angry capital letter posting about how they have misquoted you ... they literally never quoted or specifically referred to anyones post not every post after you is directly aimed at you and patronising everyone who does post doesn’t really achieve that mature adult discussion you seem to be annoyed is missing | |||
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"Jesus H there are some piss poor trolls on here these days and, quite frankly, some people who really shouldn't be let out in public. This country and a large proportion of the population are an embarrassment. If only COVID would do us all a favour and take them out and leave those with half a brain cell it might not be all doom and gloom. What a nice pleasant thing to say. You are clearly a lovely guy ! Give me strength !" I'm a perfectly decent bloke thanks. I just think the selfish idiots who haven't been taking this seriously since the start who have put others lives at risk are the ones who deserve to suffer if anyone has to.
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"Jesus H there are some piss poor trolls on here these days and, quite frankly, some people who really shouldn't be let out in public. This country and a large proportion of the population are an embarrassment. If only COVID would do us all a favour and take them out and leave those with half a brain cell it might not be all doom and gloom. What a nice pleasant thing to say. You are clearly a lovely guy ! Give me strength ! I'm a perfectly decent bloke thanks. I just think the selfish idiots who haven't been taking this seriously since the start who have put others lives at risk are the ones who deserve to suffer if anyone has to.
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"I'm a perfectly decent bloke thanks. I just think the selfish idiots who haven't been taking this seriously since the start who have put others lives at risk are the ones who deserve to suffer if anyone has to.
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"No not at all, just saying if someone has some strong proven facts to back up it's fake then I will consider the probability. If what we are seeing from around the world from many numerous sources is fake then a lot of people are going to a lot of trouble and doing a fantastic job of making us believe it. The trouble is there is just so much fake news out there and it's purposely done to sell newspapers, get numbers up on social media and to cover up the truth. Me, well I sit in 'this shit is real' camp and I am not one bit surprised at it happening or the speed of which it has spread as we have all become to blinkered and as the superior species on the planet we think we are invincible. I also have no doubt that a 2nd wave is coming and that I fear it will be more devastating ( I hope people prove me wrong and laugh at me as I'd be happy to laugh with them) but even if I am wrong and we don't get a 2nd wave we will still have to deal with massive unemployment, a backlog of urgent medical procedures, a big rise in mental health and yet more division
I don't think at all you will be proven wrong, a second wave will be coming. Whether it will be worse or not we won't know until it happens.
Quarantine ban is being lifted for anyone coming here, does that say that we are no longer at risk? That the government & whoever think its all under control? Again who knows what the reasons or logic are but what mixed signals does that give?
We have all seen the crowded beach pictures, I can only imagine what places & people are going to be like next week.
Yes just like the BLM and anti-BLM rallies the other week. Many people believed there would be a massive resurgence of Covid-19 cases. Guess what ? There wasn't.
Wasn't there? I wouldn't know to be honest I've stayed locked up away from folk.
I see. Maybe I just made it all up then ! Lol"Its good to know there was no rise but whos to say just because one didn't happen at any of those it doesn't mean it won't happen. Maybe there never will be a second wave, we won't really know until it happens I guess  | |||
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"No not at all, just saying if someone has some strong proven facts to back up it's fake then I will consider the probability. If what we are seeing from around the world from many numerous sources is fake then a lot of people are going to a lot of trouble and doing a fantastic job of making us believe it. The trouble is there is just so much fake news out there and it's purposely done to sell newspapers, get numbers up on social media and to cover up the truth. Me, well I sit in 'this shit is real' camp and I am not one bit surprised at it happening or the speed of which it has spread as we have all become to blinkered and as the superior species on the planet we think we are invincible. I also have no doubt that a 2nd wave is coming and that I fear it will be more devastating ( I hope people prove me wrong and laugh at me as I'd be happy to laugh with them) but even if I am wrong and we don't get a 2nd wave we will still have to deal with massive unemployment, a backlog of urgent medical procedures, a big rise in mental health and yet more division
I don't think at all you will be proven wrong, a second wave will be coming. Whether it will be worse or not we won't know until it happens.
Quarantine ban is being lifted for anyone coming here, does that say that we are no longer at risk? That the government & whoever think its all under control? Again who knows what the reasons or logic are but what mixed signals does that give?
We have all seen the crowded beach pictures, I can only imagine what places & people are going to be like next week.
Yes just like the BLM and anti-BLM rallies the other week. Many people believed there would be a massive resurgence of Covid-19 cases. Guess what ? There wasn't.
Wasn't there? I wouldn't know to be honest I've stayed locked up away from folk.
I see. Maybe I just made it all up then ! Lol
Its good to know there was no rise but whos to say just because one didn't happen at any of those it doesn't mean it won't happen. Maybe there never will be a second wave, we won't really know until it happens I guess "But we do know it didn't happen after several mass meetings in London. That is significant. Talking about something that hasn't happened isn't really significant ? | |||
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"Jesus H there are some piss poor trolls on here these days and, quite frankly, some people who really shouldn't be let out in public. This country and a large proportion of the population are an embarrassment. If only COVID would do us all a favour and take them out and leave those with half a brain cell it might not be all doom and gloom. What a nice pleasant thing to say. You are clearly a lovely guy ! Give me strength ! I'm a perfectly decent bloke thanks. I just think the selfish idiots who haven't been taking this seriously since the start who have put others lives at risk are the ones who deserve to suffer if anyone has to.
Not that outrageous really.
Thanks for reassuring us that you are a perfectly decent bloke that just posted "If only COVID would do us all a favour and take them out". The irony is just great ! "Let's say we'll agree to disagree on this one. I know you're on the other side on this debate so I won't waste my breath any further. | |||
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"Jesus H there are some piss poor trolls on here these days and, quite frankly, some people who really shouldn't be let out in public. This country and a large proportion of the population are an embarrassment. If only COVID would do us all a favour and take them out and leave those with half a brain cell it might not be all doom and gloom. What a nice pleasant thing to say. You are clearly a lovely guy ! Give me strength ! I'm a perfectly decent bloke thanks. I just think the selfish idiots who haven't been taking this seriously since the start who have put others lives at risk are the ones who deserve to suffer if anyone has to.
Not that outrageous really.
Thanks for reassuring us that you are a perfectly decent bloke that just posted "If only COVID would do us all a favour and take them out". The irony is just great !
Let's say we'll agree to disagree on this one. I know you're on the other side on this debate so I won't waste my breath any further. "OK cool, no problem. I guess you only save your breath and debate with people that agree with your opinion ? x | |||
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"No not at all, just saying if someone has some strong proven facts to back up it's fake then I will consider the probability. If what we are seeing from around the world from many numerous sources is fake then a lot of people are going to a lot of trouble and doing a fantastic job of making us believe it. The trouble is there is just so much fake news out there and it's purposely done to sell newspapers, get numbers up on social media and to cover up the truth. Me, well I sit in 'this shit is real' camp and I am not one bit surprised at it happening or the speed of which it has spread as we have all become to blinkered and as the superior species on the planet we think we are invincible. I also have no doubt that a 2nd wave is coming and that I fear it will be more devastating ( I hope people prove me wrong and laugh at me as I'd be happy to laugh with them) but even if I am wrong and we don't get a 2nd wave we will still have to deal with massive unemployment, a backlog of urgent medical procedures, a big rise in mental health and yet more division
I don't think at all you will be proven wrong, a second wave will be coming. Whether it will be worse or not we won't know until it happens.
Quarantine ban is being lifted for anyone coming here, does that say that we are no longer at risk? That the government & whoever think its all under control? Again who knows what the reasons or logic are but what mixed signals does that give?
We have all seen the crowded beach pictures, I can only imagine what places & people are going to be like next week.
Yes just like the BLM and anti-BLM rallies the other week. Many people believed there would be a massive resurgence of Covid-19 cases. Guess what ? There wasn't.
Wasn't there? I wouldn't know to be honest I've stayed locked up away from folk.
I see. Maybe I just made it all up then ! Lol
Its good to know there was no rise but whos to say just because one didn't happen at any of those it doesn't mean it won't happen. Maybe there never will be a second wave, we won't really know until it happens I guess
But we do know it didn't happen after several mass meetings in London. That is significant. Talking about something that hasn't happened isn't really significant ?
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"No not at all, just saying if someone has some strong proven facts to back up it's fake then I will consider the probability. If what we are seeing from around the world from many numerous sources is fake then a lot of people are going to a lot of trouble and doing a fantastic job of making us believe it. The trouble is there is just so much fake news out there and it's purposely done to sell newspapers, get numbers up on social media and to cover up the truth. Me, well I sit in 'this shit is real' camp and I am not one bit surprised at it happening or the speed of which it has spread as we have all become to blinkered and as the superior species on the planet we think we are invincible. I also have no doubt that a 2nd wave is coming and that I fear it will be more devastating ( I hope people prove me wrong and laugh at me as I'd be happy to laugh with them) but even if I am wrong and we don't get a 2nd wave we will still have to deal with massive unemployment, a backlog of urgent medical procedures, a big rise in mental health and yet more division
I don't think at all you will be proven wrong, a second wave will be coming. Whether it will be worse or not we won't know until it happens.
Quarantine ban is being lifted for anyone coming here, does that say that we are no longer at risk? That the government & whoever think its all under control? Again who knows what the reasons or logic are but what mixed signals does that give?
We have all seen the crowded beach pictures, I can only imagine what places & people are going to be like next week.
Yes just like the BLM and anti-BLM rallies the other week. Many people believed there would be a massive resurgence of Covid-19 cases. Guess what ? There wasn't.
Wasn't there? I wouldn't know to be honest I've stayed locked up away from folk.
I see. Maybe I just made it all up then ! Lol
Its good to know there was no rise but whos to say just because one didn't happen at any of those it doesn't mean it won't happen. Maybe there never will be a second wave, we won't really know until it happens I guess
But we do know it didn't happen after several mass meetings in London. That is significant. Talking about something that hasn't happened isn't really significant ?
It may seem insignificant to you but there are plenty of people who it is significant to. "OK - so, how can this event that hasn't happened be significant to other people ? I'm truly intrigued here. | |||
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"What I am absolutely baffled with is the believers who think that this is real are already queuing up for their place in the queue for the vaccine. We have spent months in lockdown trying to avoid the virus and here you all are ready to fight your way to the front of the queue to make sure you get your vaccine!! Well statistics go that 10% of the global population are guaranteed to take a reaction to the vaccine so this will wipe out more than the virus has so far!! If vaccines worked we would not have any diseases to affect the human race you just have to look at the flu vaccine oh and when there are so many deaths we get told it’s a different strain! There have been many conspiracies that the vaccine contains a nano chip so if the pharmaceutical companies create so much fear we shall all be like lambs to the slaughter. If you look at the global deaths the Americans have the highest deaths. The Americans are the most vaccinated nation across the globe they have the highest amounts of mercury and aluminium injected into them through vaccines so they have a very tainted immune system because of vaccines. The world laughed at Trump when he went on about disinfectant being used to fight the virus. He actually gave a vital piece of information there one of the ingredients in every vaccine that is made is disinfectant so really who had the last laugh. We will all be facing much more radiation in our lives in the modern world and what really reacts with radiation is mercury and aluminium!! Why did the World Health Organization want no one to do autopsy’s on patients that died of Covid so as no one would realise that ventilators were not the correct thing to do in the treatment of Covid showing us pictures in the media of thousands of people on ventilators created huge amounts of more fear than a packet of antibiotics! This all comes down to power and control by our governments where they have all the power if they have to collapse the world economy to do this it looks as if they are prepared to go ahead and do this create mass unemployment so as we roll into a dictatorship where the poor have to go with the begging bowl and then they have the power whether they offer anything. When have we ever had our government dictate to us what we can and cannot do? We might aswell roll over now and give away everyone of our human rights! They are hoping to create that much fear that we beg for them to give us the vaccine. It will come to a point that we won’t be allowed to travel without the vaccine be employed without the vaccine be allowed into society without the vaccine! We have had huge amounts of protests lately and we had zero influxes after each of these protests! We could do our weekly shopping every week and to the pharmacy if we needed to and every week that you went did you ever stop and think why are none of our supermarket workers in full PPE equipment?? Surely as they were providing an essential service every day of the week our government would want to give these people full protection and reduce their risk of catching Covid. A virus that seems to be more contagious in certain places more than others I have never heard so much rubbish and gullible is something I’m not!! As Hitler said if you tell people something over and over for long enough they will believe it!! So for all the sheep out there keep believing it’s real go and get your untested vaccine the coffee has well and truly boiled so clear your heads of the fog you have been fed and waken up before it’s far to late!! " That's a big one. | |||
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"What evidence do you have that its fake? I'd like you to have a chat with my relative who's a critical care nurse and still claim its fake I don’t think it’s a question of it being fake. I feel the question was worded wrongly, and it’s being suggested that the virus is man made. And it 100% is. Whether it has been released to control population or its a trial that went too far (insert conspiracy theory here) it is definitely man made " Now this im sort of saying yes too | |||
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"What I am absolutely baffled with is the believers who think that this is real are already queuing up for their place in the queue for the vaccine. We have spent months in lockdown trying to avoid the virus and here you all are ready to fight your way to the front of the queue to make sure you get your vaccine!! Well statistics go that 10% of the global population are guaranteed to take a reaction to the vaccine so this will wipe out more than the virus has so far!! If vaccines worked we would not have any diseases to affect the human race you just have to look at the flu vaccine oh and when there are so many deaths we get told it’s a different strain! There have been many conspiracies that the vaccine contains a nano chip so if the pharmaceutical companies create so much fear we shall all be like lambs to the slaughter. If you look at the global deaths the Americans have the highest deaths. The Americans are the most vaccinated nation across the globe they have the highest amounts of mercury and aluminium injected into them through vaccines so they have a very tainted immune system because of vaccines. The world laughed at Trump when he went on about disinfectant being used to fight the virus. He actually gave a vital piece of information there one of the ingredients in every vaccine that is made is disinfectant so really who had the last laugh. We will all be facing much more radiation in our lives in the modern world and what really reacts with radiation is mercury and aluminium!! Why did the World Health Organization want no one to do autopsy’s on patients that died of Covid so as no one would realise that ventilators were not the correct thing to do in the treatment of Covid showing us pictures in the media of thousands of people on ventilators created huge amounts of more fear than a packet of antibiotics! This all comes down to power and control by our governments where they have all the power if they have to collapse the world economy to do this it looks as if they are prepared to go ahead and do this create mass unemployment so as we roll into a dictatorship where the poor have to go with the begging bowl and then they have the power whether they offer anything. When have we ever had our government dictate to us what we can and cannot do? We might aswell roll over now and give away everyone of our human rights! They are hoping to create that much fear that we beg for them to give us the vaccine. It will come to a point that we won’t be allowed to travel without the vaccine be employed without the vaccine be allowed into society without the vaccine! We have had huge amounts of protests lately and we had zero influxes after each of these protests! We could do our weekly shopping every week and to the pharmacy if we needed to and every week that you went did you ever stop and think why are none of our supermarket workers in full PPE equipment?? Surely as they were providing an essential service every day of the week our government would want to give these people full protection and reduce their risk of catching Covid. A virus that seems to be more contagious in certain places more than others I have never heard so much rubbish and gullible is something I’m not!! As Hitler said if you tell people something over and over for long enough they will believe it!! So for all the sheep out there keep believing it’s real go and get your untested vaccine the coffee has well and truly boiled so clear your heads of the fog you have been fed and waken up before it’s far to late!! " O dear | |||
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"I don't know about fake but definitely don't think there's much truth in the figures they come out with. There's something going on Like what? And why would they make figures up? " Elon Musk doesn't believe the numbers are correct either | |||
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"Half a million dead worldwide . . What idiot would think its fake ! Ok, lets do maths 500,000 divided by 7.8 Billion people = ? Your odds are ? 0.000064 so...not to bad Way it was handled it a complete fuck show btw x" And if countries didn't lock down, what would have been the maths then? | |||
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"I don't know about fake but definitely don't think there's much truth in the figures they come out with. There's something going on Like what? And why would they make figures up? Elon Musk doesn't believe the numbers are correct either "And? | |||
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"Every time I come in the virus forum I leave shaking my head, despairing for the future of the human race. Same as every other time then. " Don't then lol it's simple | |||
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"It is not a fake virus that has killed two of my oldest and dearest friends who though in their sixties were otherwise healthy , please people take this thing seriously it kills !!" So does cancer, heart disease, old age, etc etc so think about that | |||
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"It is not a fake virus that has killed two of my oldest and dearest friends who though in their sixties were otherwise healthy , please people take this thing seriously it kills !! So does cancer, heart disease, old age, etc etc so think about that" And?? | |||
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"It is not a fake virus that has killed two of my oldest and dearest friends who though in their sixties were otherwise healthy , please people take this thing seriously it kills !! So does cancer, heart disease, old age, etc etc so think about that And?? " And? And viruses have been around since the dawn of time it's not like it's the first ever virus that has ever existed is it? | |||
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"It is not a fake virus that has killed two of my oldest and dearest friends who though in their sixties were otherwise healthy , please people take this thing seriously it kills !! So does cancer, heart disease, old age, etc etc so think about that And?? And? And viruses have been around since the dawn of time it's not like it's the first ever virus that has ever existed is it? " True, what is your point?? | |||
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" What I am absolutely baffled with is the believers who think that this is real are already queuing up for their place in the queue for the vaccine. We have spent months in lockdown trying to avoid the virus and here you all are ready to fight your way to the front of the queue to make sure you get your vaccine!! Well statistics go that 10% of the global population are guaranteed to take a reaction to the vaccine so this will wipe out more than the virus has so far!! If vaccines worked we would not have any diseases to affect the human race you just have to look at the flu vaccine oh and when there are so many deaths we get told it’s a different strain! There have been many conspiracies that the vaccine contains a nano chip so if the pharmaceutical companies create so much fear we shall all be like lambs to the slaughter. If you look at the global deaths the Americans have the highest deaths. The Americans are the most vaccinated nation across the globe they have the highest amounts of mercury and aluminium injected into them through vaccines so they have a very tainted immune system because of vaccines. The world laughed at Trump when he went on about disinfectant being used to fight the virus. He actually gave a vital piece of information there one of the ingredients in every vaccine that is made is disinfectant so really who had the last laugh. We will all be facing much more radiation in our lives in the modern world and what really reacts with radiation is mercury and aluminium!! Why did the World Health Organization want no one to do autopsy’s on patients that died of Covid so as no one would realise that ventilators were not the correct thing to do in the treatment of Covid showing us pictures in the media of thousands of people on ventilators created huge amounts of more fear than a packet of antibiotics! This all comes down to power and control by our governments where they have all the power if they have to collapse the world economy to do this it looks as if they are prepared to go ahead and do this create mass unemployment so as we roll into a dictatorship where the poor have to go with the begging bowl and then they have the power whether they offer anything. When have we ever had our government dictate to us what we can and cannot do? We might aswell roll over now and give away everyone of our human rights! They are hoping to create that much fear that we beg for them to give us the vaccine. It will come to a point that we won’t be allowed to travel without the vaccine be employed without the vaccine be allowed into society without the vaccine! We have had huge amounts of protests lately and we had zero influxes after each of these protests! We could do our weekly shopping every week and to the pharmacy if we needed to and every week that you went did you ever stop and think why are none of our supermarket workers in full PPE equipment?? Surely as they were providing an essential service every day of the week our government would want to give these people full protection and reduce their risk of catching Covid. A virus that seems to be more contagious in certain places more than others I have never heard so much rubbish and gullible is something I’m not!! As Hitler said if you tell people something over and over for long enough they will believe it!! So for all the sheep out there keep believing it’s real go and get your untested vaccine the coffee has well and truly boiled so clear your heads of the fog you have been fed and waken up before it’s far to late!! " Beware, you could meet this person in a club, long before Covid could kill you he'll talk you to death! | |||
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"A very good friend of mine is the ceo for a big hospital. Trust me after speaking to him every day since March this is not fake. You don't want to hear the things he has told me about covid" I do? | |||
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"Says more about you if you block people for sharing their _iew on the situation doesn't it." People can block who they want, don’t you agree? | |||
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"How dare you have an alternative opinion! Shame on you! "What are their ‘alternative opinions’ based on? | |||
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"Yes. I thought so from the start, you need to rationalise fear as fear is the biggest weapon "Why? | |||
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"Fake is a bit extreme,but the media definitely over play covid fearmongering,that's just the way they roll, they have been banging on about Leicester all week, but how many times have they reported that actually there is no sign of rising deaths or hospitalisations" I think the point with local testing etc as in Germany is to nail them before you’ve got a big death toll rather than look back after it’s happened | |||
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"Yes. I thought so from the start, you need to rationalise fear as fear is the biggest weapon
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"Half a million dead worldwide . . What idiot would think its fake ! Ok, lets do maths 500,000 divided by 7.8 Billion people = ? Your odds are ?" Your implying that its over with. Thats just 6 months. | |||
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"Fake is a bit extreme,but the media definitely over play covid fearmongering,that's just the way they roll, they have been banging on about Leicester all week, but how many times have they reported that actually there is no sign of rising deaths or hospitalisations" I think you will find there is 6 to 10 admissions per day in Leicester trusts for Covid as opposed to 1 per day everywhere else. Please do you research before spreading false information | |||
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"Yes. I thought so from the start, you need to rationalise fear as fear is the biggest weapon
Why? The way the media is doing the headlines."True, but why does that mate the pandemic fake? | |||
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"It is not a fake virus that has killed two of my oldest and dearest friends who though in their sixties were otherwise healthy , please people take this thing seriously it kills !! So does cancer, heart disease, old age, etc etc so think about that" Very empathetic. I think perhaps the point is, this Is one killer we can take ownership of and have a great deal of success in stopping it spreading and killing other people's best friends . Are you suggesting that we should not try to make such efforts just because other diseases that kill predate covid 19? | |||
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Why? The way the media is doing the headlines.
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"Yes. I thought so from the start, you need to rationalise fear as fear is the biggest weapon
Why? The way the media is doing the headlines.
True, but why does that mate the pandemic fake?It isnt. I would say it is more a infodemic."It is probably both depending on what media you read and believe | |||
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"Yes. I thought so from the start, you need to rationalise fear as fear is the biggest weapon
Why? The way the media is doing the headlines.
True, but why does that mate the pandemic fake?"Gov'ts own stats recorded more deaths fron Jan - Apr/May 2018 that the same period 2020 Why no 2018 crisis ? Hospitals are incentivised to report C19 causes of deaths, by money and ease of process. Seems like all of a sudden there is no other "cause or death". Widespread reports of death certs being changed in mass, now read up on Coronavirus Act2020, specifically that re: death certs. The pathways have been cleared for C19, any route attempting to counter is wrapped up tight in regulatory red tape. | |||
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"Some people can't cope with the idea that the world is chaotic and prone to disaster. For them there has to be order, a plan for everything. Which means when something bad happens it had to have been planned. Thus springs conspiracy theories. The unfortunate truth is that humans and nature are more than capable of fucking things up without needing a plan to do it." Very much. Conspiracy theories are often just misplaced anxiety. I sympathise, but, also, people need to deal with their feelings rather than conjuring up elaborate fantasies of a not fun kind. | |||
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"Says more about you if you block people for sharing their _iew on the situation doesn't it. Your right it does and Its says my life is way too short to waist on people who actually have _iew such as this " People can block who they want , I wouldn’t want to meet someone with such a deluded _iew . | |||
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"Yes. I thought so from the start, you need to rationalise fear as fear is the biggest weapon
Why? The way the media is doing the headlines.
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Why? The way the media is doing the headlines.
True, but why does that mate the pandemic fake?
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Hospitals are incentivised to report C19 causes of deaths, by money and ease of process. Seems like all of a sudden there is no other "cause or death".
Widespread reports of death certs being changed in mass, now read up on Coronavirus Act2020, specifically that re: death certs. The pathways have been cleared for C19, any route attempting to counter is wrapped up tight in regulatory red tape.
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"Yes. I thought so from the start, you need to rationalise fear as fear is the biggest weapon
Why? The way the media is doing the headlines.
True, but why does that mate the pandemic fake?
Gov'ts own stats recorded more deaths fron Jan - Apr/May 2018 that the same period 2020
Why no 2018 crisis ?
Hospitals are incentivised to report C19 causes of deaths, by money and ease of process. Seems like all of a sudden there is no other "cause or death".
Widespread reports of death certs being changed in mass, now read up on Coronavirus Act2020, specifically that re: death certs. The pathways have been cleared for C19, any route attempting to counter is wrapped up tight in regulatory red tape.
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"No credible evidence of a fake " Exactly, there is it a single reason why they (whoever they are ) would create or exaggerate a pandemic . | |||
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"No credible evidence of a fake Exactly, there is it a single reason why they (whoever they are ) would create or exaggerate a pandemic . " Is not | |||
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"No credible evidence of a fake " I have sat outside empty test sites while they were reported overwhelmed | |||
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"No credible evidence of a fake I have sat outside empty test sites while they were reported overwhelmed" And? Are you saying that the pandemic is fake or are you saying the media reports are exaggerated? | |||
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"Yes. I thought so from the start, you need to rationalise fear as fear is the biggest weapon
Why? The way the media is doing the headlines.
True, but why does that mate the pandemic fake?
Gov'ts own stats recorded more deaths fron Jan - Apr/May 2018 that the same period 2020
Why no 2018 crisis ?
Hospitals are incentivised to report C19 causes of deaths, by money and ease of process. Seems like all of a sudden there is no other "cause or death".
Widespread reports of death certs being changed in mass, now read up on Coronavirus Act2020, specifically that re: death certs. The pathways have been cleared for C19, any route attempting to counter is wrapped up tight in regulatory red tape.
Yes lots were changed to say covid, not sure why tho, it could be political."Do you have any evidence that "lots were changed to say covid,".? How many were changed? By whom? Were they changed to say covid was the cause of death? Or that covid symptoms were present? | |||
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"No credible evidence of a fake I have sat outside empty test sites while they were reported overwhelmed And? Are you saying that the pandemic is fake or are you saying the media reports are exaggerated? " Im asking others how they feel. | |||
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"No credible evidence of a fake I have sat outside empty test sites while they were reported overwhelmed And? Are you saying that the pandemic is fake or are you saying the media reports are exaggerated? Im asking others how they feel." And I am asking you want you think? Any reason why you won’t answer? | |||
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"Imagine being so stupid you believe this is a hoax. I hope you don’t go out alone crossing the road must be a challenge if you are that dim " This. | |||
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"No credible evidence of a fake I have sat outside empty test sites while they were reported overwhelmed And? Are you saying that the pandemic is fake or are you saying the media reports are exaggerated? Im asking others how they feel." Feeling are emotions, reasoning is based on logical decision. Do you see the difference? | |||
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"Wif not fake, what makes it genuine ?" The first death, the second, the third and many more What do you need? | |||
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"Wif not fake, what makes it genuine ?" All the people who have died perhaps? | |||
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"Wif not fake, what makes it genuine ?" The 44k+ Dead people makes it very much genuine and real | |||
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