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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I've seen a few posts now about bareback and why are some people so hateful against those that choose to play bareback at the end of the day if all be agree its up to them |
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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago
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"I've seen a few posts now about bareback and why are some people so hateful against those that choose to play bareback at the end of the day if all be agree its up to them "
What if you caught something and passed it onto your gf? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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You visit a hospital and the nurse uses same glove to treat your wounds that she used on other people's wounds
Or she uses same needle she used on other patients .. would you still be ok with that cross contamination?
We don't meet them even for safe sex.
We value our health more than just the sex . |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Nobody hates you, just ask yourself why people insist on safe sex
I'm all for catching and spreading STDs myself that's very magnanimous of you "
It's my community spirit and generous nature
Trouble is with these people when they do catch it because the went bareback it will be their partners fault! |
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"You visit a hospital and the nurse uses same glove to treat your wounds that she used on other people's wounds
Or she uses same needle she used on other patients .. would you still be ok with that cross contamination?
We don't meet them even for safe sex.
We value our health more than just the sex ."
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"You visit a hospital and the nurse uses same glove to treat your wounds that she used on other people's wounds
Or she uses same needle she used on other patients .. would you still be ok with that cross contamination?
We don't meet them even for safe sex.
We value our health more than just the sex ."
It's about minimising the risk at the end of the day. Shocked that people think bb acceptable, had couple make us feel like we were ott as if bb was normal, eye-opener to stay vigilant and double check. Each to their own but not for us at all if they do. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I've seen a few posts now about bareback and why are some people so hateful against those that choose to play bareback at the end of the day if all be agree its up to them "
I would never bareback on fab but I would cum on a pussy |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You visit a hospital and the nurse uses same glove to treat your wounds that she used on other people's wounds
Or she uses same needle she used on other patients .. would you still be ok with that cross contamination?
We don't meet them even for safe sex.
We value our health more than just the sex .
It's about minimising the risk at the end of the day. Shocked that people think bb acceptable, had couple make us feel like we were ott as if bb was normal, eye-opener to stay vigilant and double check. Each to their own but not for us at all if they do. "
Horrible and these same ppl visit STD clinics and expect disposable gloves, containers, disposable sheets on examination table etc |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I've seen a few posts now about bareback and why are some people so hateful against those that choose to play bareback at the end of the day if all be agree its up to them
I would never bareback on fab but I would cum on a pussy "
U mean u r ok to infect others? |
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"You visit a hospital and the nurse uses same glove to treat your wounds that she used on other people's wounds
Or she uses same needle she used on other patients .. would you still be ok with that cross contamination?
We don't meet them even for safe sex.
We value our health more than just the sex .
It's about minimising the risk at the end of the day. Shocked that people think bb acceptable, had couple make us feel like we were ott as if bb was normal, eye-opener to stay vigilant and double check. Each to their own but not for us at all if they do.
Horrible and these same ppl visit STD clinics and expect disposable gloves, containers, disposable sheets on examination table etc "
They are so clean in their mind, wonder if feel the need to check or PREP. We routinely for our own health and peace of mind. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You visit a hospital and the nurse uses same glove to treat your wounds that she used on other people's wounds
Or she uses same needle she used on other patients .. would you still be ok with that cross contamination?
We don't meet them even for safe sex.
We value our health more than just the sex ."
Exactly this!!!!
It’s weird that people are still asking |
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The reason they get so much hate is because they are so selfish and their selfishness puts everyone else at risk.
If nobody did bareback outside of relationships then the risks of STI’s would be near zero and the infections could be irradiated.
If I have a CJ don break and catch something, it’s highly likely in that chain of infection, the very high majority will be bear backers.
They are responsible for my infection. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I've seen a few posts now about bareback and why are some people so hateful against those that choose to play bareback at the end of the day if all be agree its up to them
I would never bareback on fab but I would cum on a pussy
U mean u r ok to infect others? "
My immediate thought too.
Keep yourself safe but finish off by leaving her with something to remember you by..... ![](/icons/s/rolleyes.gif) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Because there's no such thing as 'safer' bareback. People talk about getting tested as though it proves anything, when some diseases have a window period where you can test clear and still have it. |
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If people bareback and they are open and honest about it they can do what ever they like it's their body
The problem I have is the liars. If someone barebacks random people but tells me they dont and I use a condom I'm still at an increased risk of an std because condoms aren't 100%
I only want to have sex with people who practice safer sex all the time with random people. Limit the risks as much as possible. If they lie I can't make an informed decision.
If they want to risk their health thats up to them but leave me out of it accept the fact I don't want sex with barebackers. Be considerate of a person's choice. Il stick with condoms and regular testing without the added stress. It's bad enough when a condom breaks or slips off let alone worries of having sex with someone who happily fucks anyone bare. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Sex education basic 101
How do STIs spread?
Through not wearing a condom
How do I prevent catching an STI?
Wear a condom
It is that simple.
Saying you check testing and regularly get tested means nothing, they could have had sex within the last 24hrs with somebody else, and NOBODY gets tested daily.
They then put us at risk because I know alot who do OWO, which is much less likely to transmit an STI but still possible, esp when they do CIM.
Condoms also break and if the other person been barebacking, the safe person is now put at risk. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Some men are not comfortable wearing condoms as they struggle to get erection and even I am one of them but I would rather enjoy the foreplay then thinking of bareback sex .
The lady would understand me and respect my decision than having unsafe sex . |
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We always presumed condoms as the norm on scene, but been shocked not the case and barebackers don't standout or have obvious fab names. Learning curve still for us, feel like we're vetting police ![](/icons/s/eek.gif) |
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"Some men are not comfortable wearing condoms as they struggle to get erection and even I am one of them but I would rather enjoy the foreplay then thinking of bareback sex .
The lady would understand me and respect my decision than having unsafe sex ."
Practice makes perfect and finding the right fitting condom. For the most part it's a psychological issue, the worry of losing sensation means you lose your erection. It's called condom associated erectile dysfunction or condom associated erection problems.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Some men are not comfortable wearing condoms as they struggle to get erection and even I am one of them but I would rather enjoy the foreplay then thinking of bareback sex .
The lady would understand me and respect my decision than having unsafe sex .
Practice makes perfect and finding the right fitting condom. For the most part it's a psychological issue, the worry of losing sensation means you lose your erection. It's called condom associated erectile dysfunction or condom associated erection problems.
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Thanks ,calming down helps a lot .
Sometimes the lady is so gorgeous and you are super excited. You think of fucking her in various positions in your mind lol but you also cum in your mind ![](/icons/s/biggrin.gif) |
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"Some men are not comfortable wearing condoms as they struggle to get erection and even I am one of them but I would rather enjoy the foreplay then thinking of bareback sex .
The lady would understand me and respect my decision than having unsafe sex .
Practice makes perfect and finding the right fitting condom. For the most part it's a psychological issue, the worry of losing sensation means you lose your erection. It's called condom associated erectile dysfunction or condom associated erection problems.
Thanks ,calming down helps a lot .
Sometimes the lady is so gorgeous and you are super excited. You think of fucking her in various positions in your mind lol but you also cum in your mind "
That's when you need to think of England delay the inevitable for a while ![](/icons/s/2/halo.gif) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I've seen a few posts now about bareback and why are some people so hateful against those that choose to play bareback at the end of the day if all be agree its up to them " its not that they hate it they probably do it themselves but if you come out as pro safety and safe sex thats a good advert don't you think, bareback involves a risk and shows you are maybe a little cavalier with your own personal well being, hate is a strong word but many show their disdain for this passtime over zealously i think but if you look at most vids on this site many feature bareback, take a look everyone do the survey ![](/icons/s/twisted.gif) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If you fuck multiple other people then you'd be a dick not to wear a condom. If you are looking for a long term relationship with another couple which is exclusive then in my book bareback is fine once you are satisfied that it is exclusive on both sides.
Cuckold relationships etc are about exactly that, a relationship, not a random fuck behind the bikeshed.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If you fuck multiple other people then you'd be a dick not to wear a condom. If you are looking for a long term relationship with another couple which is exclusive then in my book bareback is fine once you are satisfied that it is exclusive on both sides.
Cuckold relationships etc are about exactly that, a relationship, not a random fuck behind the bikeshed.
" how can anyone be sure of anything, exclusivity is sought by many but so often it isn't achieved ![](/icons/s/2/halo.gif) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Thanks ,calming down helps a lot .
Sometimes the lady is so gorgeous and you are super excited. You think of fucking her in various positions in your mind lol but you also cum in your mind
That's when you need to think of England delay the inevitable for a while "
Haha lol. Once while having sex ,I was trying to remember onion prices in Asds .lol. funny isn't ? |
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Thanks ,calming down helps a lot .
Sometimes the lady is so gorgeous and you are super excited. You think of fucking her in various positions in your mind lol but you also cum in your mind
That's when you need to think of England delay the inevitable for a while
Haha lol. Once while having sex ,I was trying to remember onion prices in Asds .lol. funny isn't ? "
Onions is certainly a strange thing to think of and I wonder how many different prices onions have in asda. Comparisons of prepacked to loose and organic, then you have shallots too. ![](/icons/s/mrgreen.gif) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Not quite BB, but this was a response I got when I asked someone who messaged me whether they got tested....
"I haven't been tested in a while but then I'm not into the anal side of it all. Really just enjoy worshipping a huge cock like yours. Obviously up for rimming as well. "
I did point out to him that you could get STIs or other things from stuff other than anal.... Sometimes I feel like getting out a blackboard/chalk to explain in words of one syllable the reasons about safe sex/getting tested regularly etc...! ![](/icons/s/eek.gif) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I've seen a few posts now about bareback and why are some people so hateful against those that choose to play bareback at the end of the day if all be agree its up to them
I would never bareback on fab but I would cum on a pussy "
I think I'd rather say I wouldn't bareback anywhere other than with a long term partner. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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No bareback for me at all - not even with my partner, as she’s not on birth control. I don’t mind a condom, to be honest, and peace of mind over my health is more important than any other concerns anyway. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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To be honest bb isn't really necessary now a days condoms are no longer the ill fitting one size fits all things they used to be, and as for the free ones there generally pretty crap, but if you spend a bit of money I generally use durex thins and I don't even realise I have it on everything feels amazing and from sites like love honey there far from expensive. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"To be honest bb isn't really necessary now a days condoms are no longer the ill fitting one size fits all things they used to be, and as for the free ones there generally pretty crap, but if you spend a bit of money I generally use durex thins and I don't even realise I have it on everything feels amazing and from sites like love honey there far from expensive. "
I get durex thins too, but obviously I dont know how they feel, good to know they feel good |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Bareback is natural back in the days it was no condoms and no diseases
Fuck all y all "
Thanks for informing, blocked so we never make contact.
Enjoy your diseases.
Oh, just curious, are you anti vax too with that mentality ![](/icons/s/rolleyes.gif) |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Bareback is natural back in the days it was no condoms and no diseases
Fuck all y all
Thanks for informing, blocked so we never make contact.
Enjoy your diseases.
Oh, just curious, are you anti vax too with that mentality "
Might be a daft question but what is anti vax? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Bareback is natural back in the days it was no condoms and no diseases
Fuck all y all "
A quick google will tell you that the first syphilis outbreak in Europe was in late 1400s, so there's not really such a thing as 'back in the day'. ![](/icons/s/rolleyes.gif) |
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By *edheadjMan
over a year ago
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"Bareback is natural back in the days it was no condoms and no diseases
Fuck all y all
Thanks for informing, blocked so we never make contact.
Enjoy your diseases.
Oh, just curious, are you anti vax too with that mentality
Might be a daft question but what is anti vax?"
People that don't believe in vaccinations
Also known as idiots. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Bareback is natural back in the days it was no condoms and no diseases
Fuck all y all
Thanks for informing, blocked so we never make contact.
Enjoy your diseases.
Oh, just curious, are you anti vax too with that mentality
Might be a daft question but what is anti vax?
People that don't believe in vaccinations
Also known as idiots. "
Oh right I was thinking been oposed to vacuums lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"To be honest bb isn't really necessary now a days condoms are no longer the ill fitting one size fits all things they used to be, and as for the free ones there generally pretty crap, but if you spend a bit of money I generally use durex thins and I don't even realise I have it on everything feels amazing and from sites like love honey there far from expensive.
I get durex thins too, but obviously I dont know how they feel, good to know they feel good"
I keep some thins in my bag too but I often think I should carry extra thick ones because if they think they can get away with not using one by not having any they deserve nothing more
I can't believe in this day and age people still think it's acceptable to go bareback and then move on to another partner. Talk about neanderthal ![](/icons/s/rolleyes.gif) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Please, if anyone has commented on here that they enjoy bareback with strangers would you please block us, saves us going through the thread, yuk!
Good idea, can we join "
You sure can ![](/icons/thumb_up.png) |
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"Please, if anyone has commented on here that they enjoy bareback with strangers would you please block us, saves us going through the thread, yuk!
Good idea, can we join
You sure can "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Bareback is better but save it for one special lady friend who you know and trust over a period of time. It’s just irresponsible and I would rather be safe than sorry. |
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"You visit a hospital and the nurse uses same glove to treat your wounds that she used on other people's wounds
Or she uses same needle she used on other patients .. would you still be ok with that cross contamination?
We don't meet them even for safe sex.
We value our health more than just the sex ." spot on ![](/icons/thumb_up.png) |
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I have been keeping a close tab on this thread. My health comes first and that means no bb. I understand some people are in relationships, and this is fine, as long as they glove up at all times with others. If I was in a relationship I would consider bb after all the relevant tests.
We can all agree that bb feels much better. That is not a debate here at all. And as someone who is a lover of cum it can be a downer to make a guy glove up, but I still do it! The strange point I dont think anyone has raised so far is that some STIs and STDs are also transmitted orally or by touch, and some are do not get stopped by a condom (warts, crabs for example).
Long story short. Everyone needs to be safe. Those who claim safe sex on their profile then ask for bb? Never going to happen with me. With or without a condom. I see this as lying, maybe harsh but true |
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"I have been keeping a close tab on this thread. My health comes first and that means no bb. I understand some people are in relationships, and this is fine, as long as they glove up at all times with others. If I was in a relationship I would consider bb after all the relevant tests.
We can all agree that bb feels much better. That is not a debate here at all. And as someone who is a lover of cum it can be a downer to make a guy glove up, but I still do it! The strange point I dont think anyone has raised so far is that some STIs and STDs are also transmitted orally or by touch, and some are do not get stopped by a condom (warts, crabs for example).
Long story short. Everyone needs to be safe. Those who claim safe sex on their profile then ask for bb? Never going to happen with me. With or without a condom. I see this as lying, maybe harsh but true" but as you've already said close contact or oral even with a condom dont stop you catching STIs just saying, so you could be all condomed up and still catch an STI ![](/icons/s/twisted.gif) |
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"I have been keeping a close tab on this thread. My health comes first and that means no bb. I understand some people are in relationships, and this is fine, as long as they glove up at all times with others. If I was in a relationship I would consider bb after all the relevant tests.
We can all agree that bb feels much better. That is not a debate here at all. And as someone who is a lover of cum it can be a downer to make a guy glove up, but I still do it! The strange point I dont think anyone has raised so far is that some STIs and STDs are also transmitted orally or by touch, and some are do not get stopped by a condom (warts, crabs for example).
Long story short. Everyone needs to be safe. Those who claim safe sex on their profile then ask for bb? Never going to happen with me. With or without a condom. I see this as lying, maybe harsh but truebut as you've already said close contact or oral even with a condom dont stop you catching STIs just saying, so you could be all condomed up and still catch an STI "
Which is why it's so important to not engage with people who take unnecessary risks that's why people who use condoms still get regular tests
Excusing the fact it's still possible to get an std coming to the conclusion that if you can get one while using condoms so why bother is just being mindless. |
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over a year ago
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"I have been keeping a close tab on this thread. My health comes first and that means no bb. I understand some people are in relationships, and this is fine, as long as they glove up at all times with others. If I was in a relationship I would consider bb after all the relevant tests.
We can all agree that bb feels much better. That is not a debate here at all. And as someone who is a lover of cum it can be a downer to make a guy glove up, but I still do it! The strange point I dont think anyone has raised so far is that some STIs and STDs are also transmitted orally or by touch, and some are do not get stopped by a condom (warts, crabs for example).
Long story short. Everyone needs to be safe. Those who claim safe sex on their profile then ask for bb? Never going to happen with me. With or without a condom. I see this as lying, maybe harsh but truebut as you've already said close contact or oral even with a condom dont stop you catching STIs just saying, so you could be all condomed up and still catch an STI
Which is why it's so important to not engage with people who take unnecessary risks that's why people who use condoms still get regular tests
Excusing the fact it's still possible to get an std coming to the conclusion that if you can get one while using condoms so why bother is just being mindless." no the point being that you meet new people on the basis of safe sexual practice and if that person still follows safe sexual practice and still gets an STI who can legislate for that ![](/icons/s/2/halo.gif) |
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"I have been keeping a close tab on this thread. My health comes first and that means no bb. I understand some people are in relationships, and this is fine, as long as they glove up at all times with others. If I was in a relationship I would consider bb after all the relevant tests.
We can all agree that bb feels much better. That is not a debate here at all. And as someone who is a lover of cum it can be a downer to make a guy glove up, but I still do it! The strange point I dont think anyone has raised so far is that some STIs and STDs are also transmitted orally or by touch, and some are do not get stopped by a condom (warts, crabs for example).
Long story short. Everyone needs to be safe. Those who claim safe sex on their profile then ask for bb? Never going to happen with me. With or without a condom. I see this as lying, maybe harsh but truebut as you've already said close contact or oral even with a condom dont stop you catching STIs just saying, so you could be all condomed up and still catch an STI
Which is why it's so important to not engage with people who take unnecessary risks that's why people who use condoms still get regular tests
Excusing the fact it's still possible to get an std coming to the conclusion that if you can get one while using condoms so why bother is just being mindless.no the point being that you meet new people on the basis of safe sexual practice and if that person still follows safe sexual practice and still gets an STI who can legislate for that "
Regular testing of course. Informing sexual partners if you have an std so they can get tested and abstaining from sex until std has cleared so on and so forth. Life changing stds is more complex but it's all responsibility.
Accidents happen but being blatantly disregarding in sexual health is just ignorance and selfishness. |
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I am curious if those who dont seem to care about covering up did find they had a std, would we honestly expect them to tell all their partners since their last test?
This is obviously assuming they get:
1 tested
2 tested regularly...
Neither of which I am convinced of right now |
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By *andd2Couple
over a year ago
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"One more reason for us for not visiting clubs where nobody has control over their fingers travelling from one pussy to another ."
I like your paranoia.
With your reasoning, don't ever meet anyone and perform oral - what could be on that cock or those pussy lips and while you're not doing oral it's probably best if you don't do foreplay either because fingers and hands, in fact, it's probably better not to meet anyone EVER just to be on the safe side.
Swinging, sex with others is a gamble full stop. The only way to be 100% certain is not to play at all. Certainly, not playing BB is more safe that playing BB, but swinging is, inherently, unsafe. All we do is minimise the risks with condoms etc |
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Swinging, sex with others is a gamble full stop. The only way to be 100% certain is not to play at all. Certainly, not playing BB is more safe that playing BB, but swinging is, inherently, unsafe. All we do is minimise the risks with condoms etc"
True. Wish it wasnt but you're bang on the mark there |
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Swinging, sex with others is a gamble full stop. The only way to be 100% certain is not to play at all. Certainly, not playing BB is more safe that playing BB, but swinging is, inherently, unsafe. All we do is minimise the risks with condoms etc
True. Wish it wasnt but you're bang on the mark there "
Yep, life itself is gamble and in the end you know you are not going to win, grim reaper and all that ! |
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Swinging, sex with others is a gamble full stop. The only way to be 100% certain is not to play at all. Certainly, not playing BB is more safe that playing BB, but swinging is, inherently, unsafe. All we do is minimise the risks with condoms etc
True. Wish it wasnt but you're bang on the mark there
Yep, life itself is gamble and in the end you know you are not going to win, grim reaper and all that !"
It's about risk assessment, you don't not do a job due to things that can go wrong, you weigh up and eliminate all red flags equal to bb etc so risk is reduced,not taking unecessary risks, end off. |
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Swinging, sex with others is a gamble full stop. The only way to be 100% certain is not to play at all. Certainly, not playing BB is more safe that playing BB, but swinging is, inherently, unsafe. All we do is minimise the risks with condoms etc
True. Wish it wasnt but you're bang on the mark there
Yep, life itself is gamble and in the end you know you are not going to win, grim reaper and all that !
It's about risk assessment, you don't not do a job due to things that can go wrong, you weigh up and eliminate all red flags equal to bb etc so risk is reduced,not taking unecessary risks, end off. "
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"You visit a hospital and the nurse uses same glove to treat your wounds that she used on other people's wounds
Or she uses same needle she used on other patients .. would you still be ok with that cross contamination?
We don't meet them even for safe sex.
We value our health more than just the sex ." i don't think its the same thing as they don't have sex with the patient, but liking sucking kissing fingering each other on meeting others on here dont ware gloves when playing, just a thought, |
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"I've seen a few posts now about bareback and why are some people so hateful against those that choose to play bareback at the end of the day if all be agree its up to them "
To answer the actual question, I guess it's just the way people are. For all it's freedoms, this is a highly moral community and is beset with double standards.
People set their rules and woe betide anyone who doesn't live by them.
As some have said, yes bareback is incredibly risky in a swinging setting, but there are lots of practices that similarly heighten the danger which don't seem to attract the same vitriol. |
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"I've seen a few posts now about bareback and why are some people so hateful against those that choose to play bareback at the end of the day if all be agree its up to them
To answer the actual question, I guess it's just the way people are. For all it's freedoms, this is a highly moral community and is beset with double standards.
People set their rules and woe betide anyone who doesn't live by them.
As some have said, yes bareback is incredibly risky in a swinging setting, but there are lots of practices that similarly heighten the danger which don't seem to attract the same vitriol. "
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The thing with STDs is they don't discriminate from the innocent and the ones in the wrong.
I knew a girl that was so in love with her idiot bf.We all tried to tell her he was a sleaze.She wouldn't listen to anyone dispite us knowing he was a cheat.She wouldn't even look at another guy as she was wrapped up in the idiot so we gave up telling her as she and she lost us all as friends as she thought we were being nasty about him and couldn't see we were trying to help her.
Months later she left uni and nothing was said like she was ill as there was no announcement from our lecs.Everytime we asked it was just like a subject we shouldn't ask about.Anyway she came to visit us all on rec day and stayed over.We had a few drinks and a chat and she told us she had split with him.One of my friends asked if she finally caught him cheating.She then burst into tears and told us all that she was now hiv positive and her life is over but with the new medication shes going to try to lead a normal life for her family.That just because her idiot bf put unprotected sex above her and himself and hes now turned a bright star into a empty shell.Just because he played Russian roulette and with his and her life by having unprotected sex.So my views are strong on it as its not a game it's real and can only take that one time and it then destroys lifes and can last for the rest of your life. |
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"i personally think in the orgy situation you should all wear full body wetsuits its the only way, ride the waves instead
Lighbulb moment, hit nail on the head here. Safe sex clearly has lots of interpretation to some it could be not whilst driving, other not under influence of alcohol. Think condoms need their own box to tick along with traffic light system, Red Stop: never wear one, Amber Caution: will if have to & Green Go: always wear one "
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Can we also have a tick box on fab where people can avoid barebackers? |
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"i personally think in the orgy situation you should all wear full body wetsuits its the only way, ride the waves instead
Lighbulb moment, hit nail on the head here. Safe sex clearly has lots of interpretation to some it could be not whilst driving, other not under influence of alcohol. Think condoms need their own box to tick along with traffic light system, Red Stop: never wear one, Amber Caution: will if have to & Green Go: always wear one
Sounds like a plan that
Can we also have a tick box on fab where people can avoid barebackers? "
Fabguys has interest options not available here I think they should be. One of which is bareback interest.
Here it's confusing because people assume adding safesex interest means they don't go bare. If they had bareback interest option it's there for all to see and decide on whether to waste time contacting them or not. Works both ways if you want bareback why bother wasting time speaking to someone who doesn't. |
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"i personally think in the orgy situation you should all wear full body wetsuits its the only way, ride the waves instead
Lighbulb moment, hit nail on the head here. Safe sex clearly has lots of interpretation to some it could be not whilst driving, other not under influence of alcohol. Think condoms need their own box to tick along with traffic light system, Red Stop: never wear one, Amber Caution: will if have to & Green Go: always wear one
Sounds like a plan that
Can we also have a tick box on fab where people can avoid barebackers?
Fabguys has interest options not available here I think they should be. One of which is bareback interest.
Here it's confusing because people assume adding safesex interest means they don't go bare. If they had bareback interest option it's there for all to see and decide on whether to waste time contacting them or not. Works both ways if you want bareback why bother wasting time speaking to someone who doesn't."
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"I've seen a few posts now about bareback and why are some people so hateful against those that choose to play bareback at the end of the day if all be agree its up to them "
I never have seen statistics quoted about unsafe sex and why oral without is ok but bareback isnt or even kissing of course. The OP mentions the word hateful and that is key to me. People shouldn't be hateful is what he is saying and I agree x |
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"I've seen a few posts now about bareback and why are some people so hateful against those that choose to play bareback at the end of the day if all be agree its up to them
I never have seen statistics quoted about unsafe sex and why oral without is ok but bareback isnt or even kissing of course. The OP mentions the word hateful and that is key to me. People shouldn't be hateful is what he is saying and I agree x"
The hateful part for most is the deception and lack of responsibility
If people were honest and allowed someone to make an informed choice, people can decide if they want the increased risk or not. Deceit and lies hurt and in some cases life changing. Can't blame people for wanting to stay safe and you can't blame people for doing what they want with their own body but when it comes to selfish behaviour lying to get a fuck you think someone won't turn to hate?
The cheating spouse who barebacks takes it back to their unknowing partner? Is that not irresponsible and wrong?
Lying to someone saying they always use condoms but barebacks random people so putting the unsuspecting person at increased risk is that not wrong?
With honesty it means INFORMED choice and the risks to what ever degree a person takes are their own choice.
So if both parties want to bareback thats their choice, if both parties know one barebacks other doesn't but willing to use a condom that's their choice. But give people the choice with the level of risk they wish to take.
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"I've seen a few posts now about bareback and why are some people so hateful against those that choose to play bareback at the end of the day if all be agree its up to them
I never have seen statistics quoted about unsafe sex and why oral without is ok but bareback isnt or even kissing of course. The OP mentions the word hateful and that is key to me. People shouldn't be hateful is what he is saying and I agree x
The hateful part for most is the deception and lack of responsibility
If people were honest and allowed someone to make an informed choice, people can decide if they want the increased risk or not. Deceit and lies hurt and in some cases life changing. Can't blame people for wanting to stay safe and you can't blame people for doing what they want with their own body but when it comes to selfish behaviour lying to get a fuck you think someone won't turn to hate?
The cheating spouse who barebacks takes it back to their unknowing partner? Is that not irresponsible and wrong?
Lying to someone saying they always use condoms but barebacks random people so putting the unsuspecting person at increased risk is that not wrong?
With honesty it means INFORMED choice and the risks to what ever degree a person takes are their own choice.
So if both parties want to bareback thats their choice, if both parties know one barebacks other doesn't but willing to use a condom that's their choice. But give people the choice with the level of risk they wish to take.
If someone doesn't want to have sex with a barebacker then respect that choice."
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"I've seen a few posts now about bareback and why are some people so hateful against those that choose to play bareback at the end of the day if all be agree its up to them
To answer the actual question, I guess it's just the way people are. For all it's freedoms, this is a highly moral community and is beset with double standards.
People set their rules and woe betide anyone who doesn't live by them.
As some have said, yes bareback is incredibly risky in a swinging setting, but there are lots of practices that similarly heighten the danger which don't seem to attract the same vitriol. "
This seems a reasonable and measured response, as did Sparkle1974's
It's clearly a controversial subject, and a lot of the replies have here have pretty much proved the OP's point.
Also, as someone else said, there are plenty of other risky practices that people engage in which don't attract the same criticism - it's regarded as their personal interest and respected as such.
However, I don't think we'll ever resolve this particular argument |
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I think everyone should be allowed informed choices. This means that Fab should include some sexual health information on profiles. As a minimum this could include 'Always use a condom'; 'Bareback friendly'; 'Regularly tested' (min every three months). Some people will still lie (a bit like 'Fab Straight') but it would help a bit. |
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"Barebackers are risk takers.. the type who don't wear seatbelts, tailgate, drive inconsiderately, in effect tossers..
Cost the NHS a pretty penny in treatment..
No time to them at all" What an absolute load of rubbish. |
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"Barebackers are risk takers.. the type who don't wear seatbelts, tailgate, drive inconsiderately, in effect tossers..
Cost the NHS a pretty penny in treatment..
No time to them at allWhat an absolute load of rubbish. "
I totally agree |
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"Barebackers are risk takers.. the type who don't wear seatbelts, tailgate, drive inconsiderately, in effect tossers..
Cost the NHS a pretty penny in treatment..
No time to them at allWhat an absolute load of rubbish.
I totally agree "
How much do they cost the NHS in treatment? |
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I dont hate those that choose to go bareback. It's their choice. What I do get annoyed about is when people try to use the fact that someone doesnt use condoms for oral as some sort of leverage to instigate bb.
If someone else wants to do bb, then that is up to them. I just will tend not to play with them but also people lie. So I assume everyone is bare backing and just look out for my own sexual health x |
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"Barebackers are risk takers.. the type who don't wear seatbelts, tailgate, drive inconsiderately, in effect tossers..
Cost the NHS a pretty penny in treatment..
No time to them at allWhat an absolute load of rubbish.
I totally agree
How much do they cost the NHS in treatment?"
Probably nowhere near as much as those ( worried well)who go for check ups monthly. |
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"Some men are not comfortable wearing condoms as they struggle to get erection and even I am one of them but I would rather enjoy the foreplay then thinking of bareback sex .
The lady would understand me and respect my decision than having unsafe sex .
Practice makes perfect and finding the right fitting condom. For the most part it's a psychological issue, the worry of losing sensation means you lose your erection. It's called condom associated erectile dysfunction or condom associated erection problems.
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I find Skyns Large are a good fit, the ones from the Halifax Sexual health clinic are so tight as to be useless |
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"Barebackers are risk takers.. the type who don't wear seatbelts, tailgate, drive inconsiderately, in effect tossers..
Cost the NHS a pretty penny in treatment..
No time to them at all"
Or meet up during lockdown |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
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Just remember no sex is safe , even condoms fail 15-20% of the time and many STIs are spread through oral or kissing.
If you have multiple partners you should get tested regularly.
Our approach (sorry guys) is to avoid single guys or couples that play with single guys, I think it massively reduces the odds |
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"Please, if anyone has commented on here that they enjoy bareback with strangers would you please block us, saves us going through the thread, yuk! "
This Just been on a blocking frenzy in this thread ![](/icons/s/rolleyes.gif) |
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Sex generally involves risks, with some STIs being caught even with condom use. You will not be tested for all STIs and many people who think they have never caught them will be wrong.
Most people here won't be compatible with most others, so use your typical filtering skills to find the right people for you. There's no point in shaming, when life is about your decisions and actions, letting others accept their own. |
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By *pertureTV/TS
over a year ago
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I dont think its about hate, its about educating, I had an uncle die of aids in mid 80's as a result i see all barebackers as potential carriers, there is still no cure, wise up or don't its your choice but one I will not take. |
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over a year ago
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"I've seen a few posts now about bareback and why are some people so hateful against those that choose to play bareback at the end of the day if all be agree its up to them
I would never bareback on fab but I would cum on a pussy
U mean u r ok to infect others? "
My thoughts exactly |
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"I dont think its about hate, its about educating, I had an uncle die of aids in mid 80's as a result i see all barebackers as potential carriers, there is still no cure, wise up or don't its your choice but one I will not take."
This
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These are the same people who are out sunbathing instead of staying in. If everyone plays safe, it reduces the risk of STDs. If people don't, they increase the spread and make it more likely the people you meet with do.
Some people don't want STDs.
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"One more reason for us for not visiting clubs where nobody has control over their fingers travelling from one pussy to another ."
You have as much control in a club as in private meets. The way you make that sound is that sex in a club is uncontrollable which it isn't. Locks on doors, condoms free of charge (certainly at the Gatehouse) unless you choose a gang bang scenario and then it's posted on the walls to use condoms and I'm sure you're aware whether the guy has a condom on or not.
Your post is totally irrelevant especially as it's a dig against clubs and absolutely nothing to do with the thread. |
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I don't think its a hate thing.
well not with me anyway but I choose to play safe and I do check others to see if they have bareback pics on profile or verifications from those who do.
and if they do I will not meet them under any circumstance |
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"Just remember no sex is safe , even condoms fail 15-20% of the time and many STIs are spread through oral or kissing.
If you have multiple partners you should get tested regularly.
Our approach (sorry guys) is to avoid single guys or couples that play with single guys, I think it massively reduces the odds "
Where on earth did you get that statistic from? ![](/icons/s/rolleyes.gif) |
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"Just remember no sex is safe , even condoms fail 15-20% of the time and many STIs are spread through oral or kissing.
If you have multiple partners you should get tested regularly.
Our approach (sorry guys) is to avoid single guys or couples that play with single guys, I think it massively reduces the odds
Where on earth did you get that statistic from? "
Ah ,they one of them couples that think swinging is only the right of them and not single guys.
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"Just remember no sex is safe , even condoms fail 15-20% of the time and many STIs are spread through oral or kissing.
If you have multiple partners you should get tested regularly.
Our approach (sorry guys) is to avoid single guys or couples that play with single guys, I think it massively reduces the odds
Where on earth did you get that statistic from?
Ah ,they one of them couples that think swinging is only the right of them and not single guys.
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Some people are hellbent when it comes to Bareback sex. No matter what you preach regarding safe sex.Bareback sex addicts believe majority of people always pick on them because of their life-style.This kind of topic is very volatile.you need to thread carefully. |
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Strange question really we are all in lockdown to stop speeding the virus using a condom helps to reduce the spread of other viruses. Is it wrong for people to look disparagingly at people who actively choose to spread viruses what ever way to unsuspecting people? |
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"Some people are hellbent when it comes to Bareback sex. No matter what you preach regarding safe sex.Bareback sex addicts believe majority of people always pick on them because of their life-style.This kind of topic is very volatile.you need to thread carefully. "
Let's make it easy then. Stop preaching to people who ate not interested in your holier than though crap |
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"Some people are hellbent when it comes to Bareback sex. No matter what you preach regarding safe sex.Bareback sex addicts believe majority of people always pick on them because of their life-style.This kind of topic is very volatile.you need to thread carefully.
Let's make it easy then. Stop preaching to people who ate not interested in your holier than though crap"
The interesting part of these threads, are 90% of them stating bareback , aren’t achieving anything or getting little or nothing when you look at verifications etc. So safe to say excuse the pun, very love being shared but whole of pent up frustrated wanking going on in fantasy land ![](/icons/s/biggrin.gif) |
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Let's make it easy then. Stop preaching to people who ate not interested in your holier than though crap
The interesting part of these threads, are 90% of them stating bareback , aren’t achieving anything or getting little or nothing when you look at verifications etc. So safe to say excuse the pun, very love being shared but whole of pent up frustrated wanking going on in fantasy land "
Have you thought maybe not everyone shows all the verifications they get |
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"Some people are hellbent when it comes to Bareback sex. No matter what you preach regarding safe sex.Bareback sex addicts believe majority of people always pick on them because of their life-style.This kind of topic is very volatile.you need to thread carefully.
Let's make it easy then. Stop preaching to people who ate not interested in your holier than though crap
The interesting part of these threads, are 90% of them stating bareback , aren’t achieving anything or getting little or nothing when you look at verifications etc. So safe to say excuse the pun, very love being shared but whole of pent up frustrated wanking going on in fantasy land
Have you thought maybe not everyone shows all the verifications they get"
Not for a single second! |
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Let's make it easy then. Stop preaching to people who ate not interested in your holier than though crap"
i am not suprise.by their fruit yeah shall know them.
Hollies than crap lol. sad |
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By *pertureTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Strange question really we are all in lockdown to stop speeding the virus using a condom helps to reduce the spread of other viruses. Is it wrong for people to look disparagingly at people who actively choose to spread viruses what ever way to unsuspecting people? " ![](/icons/thumb_up.png) |
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By *edGMan
over a year ago
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Hmmmn!! Having just gotten back from walking blindfold on a tightrope across a canyon, swimming across a crocodile infested river and climbing up a cliff edge without a rope I've seen this thread and can honestly say bareback not for me as I'm not a risk taker!!
However, this is a site where many people have certain preferred sexual activity they wish to partake in. Not everyone will or should agree with what others do however lets use a bit of a current theme, DISTANCE them don't DISS them. |
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"It’s the sneaky barebackers that really piss me off. It’s why I no longer engage in doggy style on new meets and make sure I have a friend with me at clubs."
Increasingly many countries are treating this as sexual assault, and rightly so. |
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"It’s the sneaky barebackers that really piss me off. It’s why I no longer engage in doggy style on new meets and make sure I have a friend with me at clubs.
Increasingly many countries are treating this as sexual assault, and rightly so."
Even as a bareback lover I still agree with this. It must be consentual and accepted by all involved. Even putting other risks aside, if she's not on other birth control that could be a pregnancy and child with huge consequences to a group of people and the child. |
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"It’s the sneaky barebackers that really piss me off. It’s why I no longer engage in doggy style on new meets and make sure I have a friend with me at clubs." ![](/icons/thumb_up.png) |
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"It’s the sneaky barebackers that really piss me off. It’s why I no longer engage in doggy style on new meets and make sure I have a friend with me at clubs."
If anyone wants to take the risk of going into a dark room, using a gloryhole or bending over doggy style, then you are increasing your chances of someone slipping it in unprotected...So surely the best way is to either; have a friend with you as you say or dont put yourself in that situation...We dont live in an ideal world so personal responsibility is key. |
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"It’s the sneaky barebackers that really piss me off. It’s why I no longer engage in doggy style on new meets and make sure I have a friend with me at clubs.
If anyone wants to take the risk of going into a dark room, using a gloryhole or bending over doggy style, then you are increasing your chances of someone slipping it in unprotected...So surely the best way is to either; have a friend with you as you say or dont put yourself in that situation...We dont live in an ideal world so personal responsibility is key."
Ah, the 'What did she expect with a skirt that short?' argument. |
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"It’s the sneaky barebackers that really piss me off. It’s why I no longer engage in doggy style on new meets and make sure I have a friend with me at clubs.
If anyone wants to take the risk of going into a dark room, using a gloryhole or bending over doggy style, then you are increasing your chances of someone slipping it in unprotected...So surely the best way is to either; have a friend with you as you say or dont put yourself in that situation...We dont live in an ideal world so personal responsibility is key.
Ah, the 'What did she expect with a skirt that short?' argument."
As I said we dont live in an ideal world...but if I strip off and get tied bent over to a tree (skirt or not) it is likely that i get fucked or spanked etc... |
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At the end of the day it's all about choices. If someone like BB then it's their business and hating it won't change the way they do things. The most important thing is for everyone to do what works for them and keep yourself safe. There's no way of knowing who plays BB unless they tell you or state it on their profile. It's your responsibility to keep yourself safe and choose who you want to play with. |
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"At the end of the day it's all about choices. If someone like BB then it's their business and hating it won't change the way they do things. The most important thing is for everyone to do what works for them and keep yourself safe. There's no way of knowing who plays BB unless they tell you or state it on their profile. It's your responsibility to keep yourself safe and choose who you want to play with."
Sensible Man...Bristol knows best lol |
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Funny seeing those posting to say they use this kind of topic to identify those barebackers they aim to block.
So far I havent seen one profile like that who I would want to meet anyway.
Even for a coffee.
So no great loss to be honest. |
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"Funny seeing those posting to say they use this kind of topic to identify those barebackers they aim to block.
So far I havent seen one profile like that who I would want to meet anyway.
Even for a coffee.
So no great loss to be honest."
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"Funny seeing those posting to say they use this kind of topic to identify those barebackers they aim to block.
So far I havent seen one profile like that who I would want to meet anyway.
Even for a coffee.
So no great loss to be honest.
Sorry for your loss "
Yawn. Whatever. |
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If we invite a guy to join us in a room at the club and he has no condom, the usual reply is I’ll go get one. This guy will be told no way, don’t come back, as his intentions tell us he has BB else where. Rather go without |
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"It’s the sneaky barebackers that really piss me off. It’s why I no longer engage in doggy style on new meets and make sure I have a friend with me at clubs.
If anyone wants to take the risk of going into a dark room, using a gloryhole or bending over doggy style, then you are increasing your chances of someone slipping it in unprotected...So surely the best way is to either; have a friend with you as you say or dont put yourself in that situation...We dont live in an ideal world so personal responsibility is key.
Ah, the 'What did she expect with a skirt that short?' argument."
Keep sensible safety precautions whether your male or female. I am never one for the victim blaming either |
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