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Hello all
First of all, I’ll say I’m happy to be proved wrong here.
The majorty I’d my sexual experience has come from the bdsm scene. One big difference I have found is the sense of community.
On the bdsm scene, there are regular meets just for the sack of socialising and making friends, no play. At most events it’s very much a social thing.
What I’ve found on the swing scene is very different. It very much seems people are here for one thing only and not actually interested in forming any real friendships.
Some of my best and longest friends are from the bdsm scene, I personally find it sad that the swing scene doesn’t appear to be the same way.
Do you lot feel the same? Different? Can explain a good reason way? |
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I feel completely different. I’ve made lots of (online) friends.
I’m not meeting currently so I probably would have deleted my profile about four months ago if it wasn’t for the swinging community, friends, and forums |
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"I feel completely different. I’ve made lots of (online) friends.
I’m not meeting currently so I probably would have deleted my profile about four months ago if it wasn’t for the swinging community, friends, and forums "
I’m more talking real world than online. |
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"I feel completely different. I’ve made lots of (online) friends.
I’m not meeting currently so I probably would have deleted my profile about four months ago if it wasn’t for the swinging community, friends, and forums
I’m more talking real world than online."
And I still feel the same way |
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"My experiences are the exact opposite to yours OP.
I’d say 99% of my time that comes under the swinging banner is spent socialising and I love it."
I wonder if gender makes a difference here?
I’ve never seen any sort of social meet up, something outside of a swing club, just to make friends. The bdsm scene has something called a munch and the whole scene revolves around them. |
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"Hello all
First of all, I’ll say I’m happy to be proved wrong here.
The majorty I’d my sexual experience has come from the bdsm scene. One big difference I have found is the sense of community.
On the bdsm scene, there are regular meets just for the sack of socialising and making friends, no play. At most events it’s very much a social thing.
What I’ve found on the swing scene is very different. It very much seems people are here for one thing only and not actually interested in forming any real friendships.
Some of my best and longest friends are from the bdsm scene, I personally find it sad that the swing scene doesn’t appear to be the same way.
Do you lot feel the same? Different? Can explain a good reason way?"
You get the same in swinging in some areas but then you get a good proportion of the same people doing both as you are so in reality there isn't a lot of difference. |
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I personally found the BDSM scene to be very elitist and unfriendly. The only people I have ever met from an online site (not including dating sites) have been through this site a few years back but none of them have ever wanted more than a hook up. I guess everyone has different experiences! |
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"I personally found the BDSM scene to be very elitist and unfriendly. The only people I have ever met from an online site (not including dating sites) have been through this site a few years back but none of them have ever wanted more than a hook up. I guess everyone has different experiences!"
Have you tried the Birmingham scene given your in Coventry?
You’d probably be surprised how accepting the scene is if TV/TS. There’s a lot of active work by event organisers to bridge the gap between the scene and LGBT communities.
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"Hello all
First of all, I’ll say I’m happy to be proved wrong here.
The majorty I’d my sexual experience has come from the bdsm scene. One big difference I have found is the sense of community.
On the bdsm scene, there are regular meets just for the sack of socialising and making friends, no play. At most events it’s very much a social thing.
What I’ve found on the swing scene is very different. It very much seems people are here for one thing only and not actually interested in forming any real friendships.
Some of my best and longest friends are from the bdsm scene, I personally find it sad that the swing scene doesn’t appear to be the same way.
Do you lot feel the same? Different? Can explain a good reason way?
You get the same in swinging in some areas but then you get a good proportion of the same people doing both as you are so in reality there isn't a lot of difference. "
Have you found people want genuine friends? To be friends people people they’re not interested in fucking?
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"I personally found the BDSM scene to be very elitist and unfriendly. The only people I have ever met from an online site (not including dating sites) have been through this site a few years back but none of them have ever wanted more than a hook up. I guess everyone has different experiences!
Have you tried the Birmingham scene given your in Coventry?
You’d probably be surprised how accepting the scene is if TV/TS. There’s a lot of active work by event organisers to bridge the gap between the scene and LGBT communities.
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I have been to the BBB and munches but clubs don't really interest me. I only dress for meets and is not something I would want to take to a club. Every BDSM/fetish site (including the well known one) has been unfriendly. |
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"I personally found the BDSM scene to be very elitist and unfriendly. The only people I have ever met from an online site (not including dating sites) have been through this site a few years back but none of them have ever wanted more than a hook up. I guess everyone has different experiences!
Have you tried the Birmingham scene given your in Coventry?
You’d probably be surprised how accepting the scene is if TV/TS. There’s a lot of active work by event organisers to bridge the gap between the scene and LGBT communities.
I have been to the BBB and munches but clubs don't really interest me. I only dress for meets and is not something I would want to take to a club. Every BDSM/fetish site (including the well known one) has been unfriendly."
Yer I know what you mean. The thing with that well known one, is it’s now to well known. It’s full of guys being dickheads, fantasists and thinking they can speak to girls like they see in porn.
But it’s a must if your serious about bdsm, it’s a common point, everyone’s there and every event is arranged there.
Also as for meeting genuine, real and experienced kinksters. You really do need to go to events and munches, Or unfortunately you’ll mainly just find the idiots. |
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I've been to lots of forum socials and not one person wanted to fuck me. But everyone was really nice and still talked to me. There were obvious groups of friends but no cliques that people often hint at. Maybe I was just lucky to meet nice people.  |
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I think you are right to some extent, in that your other scene has very specific focus universally here upon structured and focused social relationship development. The difference with the swinging scene is that the social aspects of it are core to it and endemic - though you get some organised events structure, for example via Fab, that facilitates others becoming more integrated. The fetish scene has some great features that could be within the swinging scene to great effect, such as your aspects as described op. This would be particularly good, as the swinging scene evolves on from being more couples plus others, to being more open generally. There aren't rules for swinging that give it boundaries, even if individual places, events and people have their own. Future opportunities exist for an organically developing scene, inspired by the positives of other scenes, that many of us also move within. Swinging overall is very sociable, although a site with many people here more opportunistically for no strings sex may not make this very apparent. |
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"I think you are right to some extent, in that your other scene has very specific focus universally here upon structured and focused social relationship development. The difference with the swinging scene is that the social aspects of it are core to it and endemic - though you get some organised events structure, for example via Fab, that facilitates others becoming more integrated. The fetish scene has some great features that could be within the swinging scene to great effect, such as your aspects as described op. This would be particularly good, as the swinging scene evolves on from being more couples plus others, to being more open generally. There aren't rules for swinging that give it boundaries, even if individual places, events and people have their own. Future opportunities exist for an organically developing scene, inspired by the positives of other scenes, that many of us also move within. Swinging overall is very sociable, although a site with many people here more opportunistically for no strings sex may not make this very apparent."
That’s what I’m trying to say.
A monthly meet at a pub/bar, a night out, meet new people. That would quickly evolve into new friends.
Organisers could arrange meet and greets for newbies.
It could help overcome the issues around levelling the playing field. |
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"I spent yesterday afternoon sat in a bar with 6 other people from the site, chatting and having a laugh. There was no question of play - just like minds meeting to chat. "
How did you meet them and get an invite?
I’m talking about prearranged meets, anyone can attained, so everyone has an equal chance to socialise. |
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"Hello all
First of all, I’ll say I’m happy to be proved wrong here.
The majorty I’d my sexual experience has come from the bdsm scene. One big difference I have found is the sense of community.
On the bdsm scene, there are regular meets just for the sack of socialising and making friends, no play. At most events it’s very much a social thing.
What I’ve found on the swing scene is very different. It very much seems people are here for one thing only and not actually interested in forming any real friendships.
Some of my best and longest friends are from the bdsm scene, I personally find it sad that the swing scene doesn’t appear to be the same way.
Do you lot feel the same? Different? Can explain a good reason way?"
for the sake of sacks I'm going to take up bdsm |
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"I spent yesterday afternoon sat in a bar with 6 other people from the site, chatting and having a laugh. There was no question of play - just like minds meeting to chat.
How did you meet them and get an invite?
I’m talking about prearranged meets, anyone can attained, so everyone has an equal chance to socialise. "
It was in the forum! It was open to anyone who wished to come along.
Interestingly, I did float the idea to a number of single guys I've been chatting to recently and not a one of them wanted to come along.
So perhaps that's part of my response - it's definitely out there, look at the success of the Manchester lounge social for a start, but I think a lot of people aren't into that - they're more interested in a one to one social where they feel there's more chance of it leading to something else - and perhaps plenty more aren't sure where to look? |
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"I think you are right to some extent, in that your other scene has very specific focus universally here upon structured and focused social relationship development. The difference with the swinging scene is that the social aspects of it are core to it and endemic - though you get some organised events structure, for example via Fab, that facilitates others becoming more integrated. The fetish scene has some great features that could be within the swinging scene to great effect, such as your aspects as described op. This would be particularly good, as the swinging scene evolves on from being more couples plus others, to being more open generally. There aren't rules for swinging that give it boundaries, even if individual places, events and people have their own. Future opportunities exist for an organically developing scene, inspired by the positives of other scenes, that many of us also move within. Swinging overall is very sociable, although a site with many people here more opportunistically for no strings sex may not make this very apparent.
That’s what I’m trying to say.
A monthly meet at a pub/bar, a night out, meet new people. That would quickly evolve into new friends.
Organisers could arrange meet and greets for newbies.
It could help overcome the issues around levelling the playing field. "
Like that idea! |
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"I think you are right to some extent, in that your other scene has very specific focus universally here upon structured and focused social relationship development. The difference with the swinging scene is that the social aspects of it are core to it and endemic - though you get some organised events structure, for example via Fab, that facilitates others becoming more integrated. The fetish scene has some great features that could be within the swinging scene to great effect, such as your aspects as described op. This would be particularly good, as the swinging scene evolves on from being more couples plus others, to being more open generally. There aren't rules for swinging that give it boundaries, even if individual places, events and people have their own. Future opportunities exist for an organically developing scene, inspired by the positives of other scenes, that many of us also move within. Swinging overall is very sociable, although a site with many people here more opportunistically for no strings sex may not make this very apparent.
That’s what I’m trying to say.
A monthly meet at a pub/bar, a night out, meet new people. That would quickly evolve into new friends.
Organisers could arrange meet and greets for newbies.
It could help overcome the issues around levelling the playing field. "
Organise one yourself then, it’s what I did yesterday and we sat in a city centre pub and had a blast. There was certainly no fucking going on.
There are hundreds of socials going on all the time all over he country. |
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"I spent yesterday afternoon sat in a bar with 6 other people from the site, chatting and having a laugh. There was no question of play - just like minds meeting to chat.
How did you meet them and get an invite?
I’m talking about prearranged meets, anyone can attained, so everyone has an equal chance to socialise. "
Have you even bothered to look on here? It’s so bloody easy to find and attend a social, stop trying to push your agenda that swingers are unfriendly and only want to fuck. |
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"I spent yesterday afternoon sat in a bar with 6 other people from the site, chatting and having a laugh. There was no question of play - just like minds meeting to chat.
How did you meet them and get an invite?
I’m talking about prearranged meets, anyone can attained, so everyone has an equal chance to socialise.
Have you even bothered to look on here? It’s so bloody easy to find and attend a social, stop trying to push your agenda that swingers are unfriendly and only want to fuck."
This. ^^^^^^^
I've mentioned three socials that I've know of, giving it a bit of thought it's four.
And that's just the ones I know of.
For some strange reason my comments gone unanswered.
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"Hello all
First of all, I’ll say I’m happy to be proved wrong here.
The majorty I’d my sexual experience has come from the bdsm scene. One big difference I have found is the sense of community.
On the bdsm scene, there are regular meets just for the sack of socialising and making friends, no play. At most events it’s very much a social thing.
What I’ve found on the swing scene is very different. It very much seems people are here for one thing only and not actually interested in forming any real friendships.
Some of my best and longest friends are from the bdsm scene, I personally find it sad that the swing scene doesn’t appear to be the same way.
Do you lot feel the same? Different? Can explain a good reason way?"
I think you're absolutely right. We are here just to meet people for sex not make friends. Are you saying that's wrong or pointing out the difference?
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"Hello all
First of all, I’ll say I’m happy to be proved wrong here.
The majorty I’d my sexual experience has come from the bdsm scene. One big difference I have found is the sense of community.
On the bdsm scene, there are regular meets just for the sack of socialising and making friends, no play. At most events it’s very much a social thing.
What I’ve found on the swing scene is very different. It very much seems people are here for one thing only and not actually interested in forming any real friendships.
Some of my best and longest friends are from the bdsm scene, I personally find it sad that the swing scene doesn’t appear to be the same way.
Do you lot feel the same? Different? Can explain a good reason way?
I think you're absolutely right. We are here just to meet people for sex not make friends. Are you saying that's wrong or pointing out the difference?
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Can you have sex with someone you don't like? |
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"Do you ever go to the social events OP? You may find the sense of community your looking for there?
I haven’t found that? Where are they located?"
Depends were you live and who organises them usual posted in forums. I'm not saying your going to have a ball as it depends who goes to them. And you can still get the cliques. But its a way of getting your face seen and making friends. Good luck. X |
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"I spent yesterday afternoon sat in a bar with 6 other people from the site, chatting and having a laugh. There was no question of play - just like minds meeting to chat.
How did you meet them and get an invite?
I’m talking about prearranged meets, anyone can attained, so everyone has an equal chance to socialise.
Have you even bothered to look on here? It’s so bloody easy to find and attend a social, stop trying to push your agenda that swingers are unfriendly and only want to fuck.
This. ^^^^^^^
I've mentioned three socials that I've know of, giving it a bit of thought it's four.
And that's just the ones I know of.
For some strange reason my comments gone unanswered.
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I didn’t reply, I just didn’t quote you, it’s hard to quote everyone.
What are there socials? Where are they located? |
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"I think you are right to some extent, in that your other scene has very specific focus universally here upon structured and focused social relationship development. The difference with the swinging scene is that the social aspects of it are core to it and endemic - though you get some organised events structure, for example via Fab, that facilitates others becoming more integrated. The fetish scene has some great features that could be within the swinging scene to great effect, such as your aspects as described op. This would be particularly good, as the swinging scene evolves on from being more couples plus others, to being more open generally. There aren't rules for swinging that give it boundaries, even if individual places, events and people have their own. Future opportunities exist for an organically developing scene, inspired by the positives of other scenes, that many of us also move within. Swinging overall is very sociable, although a site with many people here more opportunistically for no strings sex may not make this very apparent.
That’s what I’m trying to say.
A monthly meet at a pub/bar, a night out, meet new people. That would quickly evolve into new friends.
Organisers could arrange meet and greets for newbies.
It could help overcome the issues around levelling the playing field.
Organise one yourself then, it’s what I did yesterday and we sat in a city centre pub and had a blast. There was certainly no fucking going on.
There are hundreds of socials going on all the time all over he country."
I was thinking I might do that, I’ve areanhed various bdsm events and munches in the past.
I have good connections with a venue called subside in Birmingham city centre, I could get something arranged if there’s enough interest. |
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"Hello all
First of all, I’ll say I’m happy to be proved wrong here.
The majorty I’d my sexual experience has come from the bdsm scene. One big difference I have found is the sense of community.
On the bdsm scene, there are regular meets just for the sack of socialising and making friends, no play. At most events it’s very much a social thing.
What I’ve found on the swing scene is very different. It very much seems people are here for one thing only and not actually interested in forming any real friendships.
Some of my best and longest friends are from the bdsm scene, I personally find it sad that the swing scene doesn’t appear to be the same way.
Do you lot feel the same? Different? Can explain a good reason way?
I think you're absolutely right. We are here just to meet people for sex not make friends. Are you saying that's wrong or pointing out the difference?
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Abit of both, if it wasn’t for the social side with the bdsm scene, I’d not have had the exprience I’ve had.
Those that say online and arrange meets from there very rarely have any play and often moan about it.
But those that activity take part on the community side have a blast.
I’ve hust not found there here. |
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"I spent yesterday afternoon sat in a bar with 6 other people from the site, chatting and having a laugh. There was no question of play - just like minds meeting to chat.
How did you meet them and get an invite?
I’m talking about prearranged meets, anyone can attained, so everyone has an equal chance to socialise.
Have you even bothered to look on here? It’s so bloody easy to find and attend a social, stop trying to push your agenda that swingers are unfriendly and only want to fuck.
This. ^^^^^^^
I've mentioned three socials that I've know of, giving it a bit of thought it's four.
And that's just the ones I know of.
For some strange reason my comments gone unanswered.
I didn’t reply, I just didn’t quote you, it’s hard to quote everyone.
What are there socials? Where are they located? "
It really isn’t, you just do what you did with this post and hit the reply and quote thingy.
Put ‘social’ in the forum search engine or have a look at the meet section. You have to do at least some of the work yourself and not wait for it to be handed to you. |
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"I spent yesterday afternoon sat in a bar with 6 other people from the site, chatting and having a laugh. There was no question of play - just like minds meeting to chat.
How did you meet them and get an invite?
I’m talking about prearranged meets, anyone can attained, so everyone has an equal chance to socialise.
Have you even bothered to look on here? It’s so bloody easy to find and attend a social, stop trying to push your agenda that swingers are unfriendly and only want to fuck."
I’m not pushing an agenda and if I am, it’s simply to have a more open and welcoming scene, that encourages friendships.
I’m part of two scenes, one I’ve made many good friends, one I’ve made very few.
There lesions to be learnt.
Like was said above, the swingers scene could learn a lot from the bdsm scene.
That’s said the bdsm scene could also learn a lot from the swingers scene.
It’s a real shame there’s such a divide between them. |
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"Hello all
First of all, I’ll say I’m happy to be proved wrong here.
The majorty I’d my sexual experience has come from the bdsm scene. One big difference I have found is the sense of community.
On the bdsm scene, there are regular meets just for the sack of socialising and making friends, no play. At most events it’s very much a social thing.
What I’ve found on the swing scene is very different. It very much seems people are here for one thing only and not actually interested in forming any real friendships.
Some of my best and longest friends are from the bdsm scene, I personally find it sad that the swing scene doesn’t appear to be the same way.
Do you lot feel the same? Different? Can explain a good reason way?
I think you're absolutely right. We are here just to meet people for sex not make friends. Are you saying that's wrong or pointing out the difference?
Abit of both, if it wasn’t for the social side with the bdsm scene, I’d not have had the exprience I’ve had.
Those that say online and arrange meets from there very rarely have any play and often moan about it.
But those that activity take part on the community side have a blast.
I’ve hust not found there here."
Ah! So what you’re saying is that because you haven’t met, nobody does. Is that right? |
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"I spent yesterday afternoon sat in a bar with 6 other people from the site, chatting and having a laugh. There was no question of play - just like minds meeting to chat.
How did you meet them and get an invite?
I’m talking about prearranged meets, anyone can attained, so everyone has an equal chance to socialise.
Have you even bothered to look on here? It’s so bloody easy to find and attend a social, stop trying to push your agenda that swingers are unfriendly and only want to fuck.
I’m not pushing an agenda and if I am, it’s simply to have a more open and welcoming scene, that encourages friendships.
I’m part of two scenes, one I’ve made many good friends, one I’ve made very few.
There lesions to be learnt.
Like was said above, the swingers scene could learn a lot from the bdsm scene.
That’s said the bdsm scene could also learn a lot from the swingers scene.
It’s a real shame there’s such a divide between them."
You are STILL choosing to ignore the obvious, aren’t you.
Try this, this is just the first place and all of those only two days old...
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"I spent yesterday afternoon sat in a bar with 6 other people from the site, chatting and having a laugh. There was no question of play - just like minds meeting to chat.
How did you meet them and get an invite?
I’m talking about prearranged meets, anyone can attained, so everyone has an equal chance to socialise.
Have you even bothered to look on here? It’s so bloody easy to find and attend a social, stop trying to push your agenda that swingers are unfriendly and only want to fuck.
This. ^^^^^^^
I've mentioned three socials that I've know of, giving it a bit of thought it's four.
And that's just the ones I know of.
For some strange reason my comments gone unanswered.
I didn’t reply, I just didn’t quote you, it’s hard to quote everyone.
What are there socials? Where are they located? "
It's.
Not.
That.
Hard.
https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/meets |
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"I spent yesterday afternoon sat in a bar with 6 other people from the site, chatting and having a laugh. There was no question of play - just like minds meeting to chat.
How did you meet them and get an invite?
I’m talking about prearranged meets, anyone can attained, so everyone has an equal chance to socialise.
Have you even bothered to look on here? It’s so bloody easy to find and attend a social, stop trying to push your agenda that swingers are unfriendly and only want to fuck.
This. ^^^^^^^
I've mentioned three socials that I've know of, giving it a bit of thought it's four.
And that's just the ones I know of.
For some strange reason my comments gone unanswered.
I didn’t reply, I just didn’t quote you, it’s hard to quote everyone.
What are there socials? Where are they located?
It really isn’t, you just do what you did with this post and hit the reply and quote thingy.
Put ‘social’ in the forum search engine or have a look at the meet section. You have to do at least some of the work yourself and not wait for it to be handed to you."
Is there a reason your approach is so adversarial?
I’ve been polite and debated a topic, looked for advice and listened to responses.
You’ve gone on the attack and made presumptions.
Now your point is valid, I hadn’t tried using the forum search tool and searched for socials. That’s a good idea, simply saying that, without the attitude would have very much appreciated. |
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"I spent yesterday afternoon sat in a bar with 6 other people from the site, chatting and having a laugh. There was no question of play - just like minds meeting to chat.
How did you meet them and get an invite?
I’m talking about prearranged meets, anyone can attained, so everyone has an equal chance to socialise.
Have you even bothered to look on here? It’s so bloody easy to find and attend a social, stop trying to push your agenda that swingers are unfriendly and only want to fuck.
This. ^^^^^^^
I've mentioned three socials that I've know of, giving it a bit of thought it's four.
And that's just the ones I know of.
For some strange reason my comments gone unanswered.
I didn’t reply, I just didn’t quote you, it’s hard to quote everyone.
What are there socials? Where are they located?
It's.
Not.
That.
Hard.
https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/meets"
It’s not using the quote that’s hard. Look what’s just happened above.
I reply to one persons post, before I can get to another persons post, they’re already slamming me for not listening to what they said and replying to the other post.
So normally I try and reply to everyone’s points on one single post rather than multiple peoples separate quotes. |
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"I spent yesterday afternoon sat in a bar with 6 other people from the site, chatting and having a laugh. There was no question of play - just like minds meeting to chat.
How did you meet them and get an invite?
I’m talking about prearranged meets, anyone can attained, so everyone has an equal chance to socialise.
Have you even bothered to look on here? It’s so bloody easy to find and attend a social, stop trying to push your agenda that swingers are unfriendly and only want to fuck.
This. ^^^^^^^
I've mentioned three socials that I've know of, giving it a bit of thought it's four.
And that's just the ones I know of.
For some strange reason my comments gone unanswered.
I didn’t reply, I just didn’t quote you, it’s hard to quote everyone.
What are there socials? Where are they located?
It's.
Not.
That.
Hard.
https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/meets
It’s not using the quote that’s hard. Look what’s just happened above.
I reply to one persons post, before I can get to another persons post, they’re already slamming me for not listening to what they said and replying to the other post.
So normally I try and reply to everyone’s points on one single post rather than multiple peoples separate quotes."
In fairness I don't think it's an unreasonable observation.
You've found the lounge forum and posted plenty of times.
Meets and socials isn't far away from it. |
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"I spent yesterday afternoon sat in a bar with 6 other people from the site, chatting and having a laugh. There was no question of play - just like minds meeting to chat.
How did you meet them and get an invite?
I’m talking about prearranged meets, anyone can attained, so everyone has an equal chance to socialise.
Have you even bothered to look on here? It’s so bloody easy to find and attend a social, stop trying to push your agenda that swingers are unfriendly and only want to fuck.
This. ^^^^^^^
I've mentioned three socials that I've know of, giving it a bit of thought it's four.
And that's just the ones I know of.
For some strange reason my comments gone unanswered.
I didn’t reply, I just didn’t quote you, it’s hard to quote everyone.
What are there socials? Where are they located?
It's.
Not.
That.
Hard.
https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/meets
It’s not using the quote that’s hard. Look what’s just happened above.
I reply to one persons post, before I can get to another persons post, they’re already slamming me for not listening to what they said and replying to the other post.
So normally I try and reply to everyone’s points on one single post rather than multiple peoples separate quotes.
In fairness I don't think it's an unreasonable observation.
You've found the lounge forum and posted plenty of times.
Meets and socials isn't far away from it."
I’ve normally looked via the meet me and nothing came up.
Also when I have looked at the forums there’s nothing local.
I just searched again as suggested and there’s nothing coming up for like 100 miles.
I’m surprised there’s not much around birmingham, hence this whole thread being started.
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"I spent yesterday afternoon sat in a bar with 6 other people from the site, chatting and having a laugh. There was no question of play - just like minds meeting to chat.
How did you meet them and get an invite?
I’m talking about prearranged meets, anyone can attained, so everyone has an equal chance to socialise.
Have you even bothered to look on here? It’s so bloody easy to find and attend a social, stop trying to push your agenda that swingers are unfriendly and only want to fuck.
This. ^^^^^^^
I've mentioned three socials that I've know of, giving it a bit of thought it's four.
And that's just the ones I know of.
For some strange reason my comments gone unanswered.
I didn’t reply, I just didn’t quote you, it’s hard to quote everyone.
What are there socials? Where are they located?
It really isn’t, you just do what you did with this post and hit the reply and quote thingy.
Put ‘social’ in the forum search engine or have a look at the meet section. You have to do at least some of the work yourself and not wait for it to be handed to you.
Is there a reason your approach is so adversarial?
I’ve been polite and debated a topic, looked for advice and listened to responses.
You’ve gone on the attack and made presumptions.
Now your point is valid, I hadn’t tried using the forum search tool and searched for socials. That’s a good idea, simply saying that, without the attitude would have very much appreciated."
I don’t think it is whereas you are repeatedly calling swingers unsociable and not willing to do anything other than fuck. You constantly ignored advice and continued with your agenda and have now admitted that you haven’t done your reaseach, just dished out your opinion based on n=1 |
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"I spent yesterday afternoon sat in a bar with 6 other people from the site, chatting and having a laugh. There was no question of play - just like minds meeting to chat.
How did you meet them and get an invite?
I’m talking about prearranged meets, anyone can attained, so everyone has an equal chance to socialise.
Have you even bothered to look on here? It’s so bloody easy to find and attend a social, stop trying to push your agenda that swingers are unfriendly and only want to fuck.
This. ^^^^^^^
I've mentioned three socials that I've know of, giving it a bit of thought it's four.
And that's just the ones I know of.
For some strange reason my comments gone unanswered.
I didn’t reply, I just didn’t quote you, it’s hard to quote everyone.
What are there socials? Where are they located?
It's.
Not.
That.
Hard.
https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/meets
It’s not using the quote that’s hard. Look what’s just happened above.
I reply to one persons post, before I can get to another persons post, they’re already slamming me for not listening to what they said and replying to the other post.
So normally I try and reply to everyone’s points on one single post rather than multiple peoples separate quotes.
In fairness I don't think it's an unreasonable observation.
You've found the lounge forum and posted plenty of times.
Meets and socials isn't far away from it.
I’ve normally looked via the meet me and nothing came up.
Also when I have looked at the forums there’s nothing local.
I just searched again as suggested and there’s nothing coming up for like 100 miles.
I’m surprised there’s not much around birmingham, hence this whole thread being started.
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Start one yourself, it’s so simple. |
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"I spent yesterday afternoon sat in a bar with 6 other people from the site, chatting and having a laugh. There was no question of play - just like minds meeting to chat.
How did you meet them and get an invite?
I’m talking about prearranged meets, anyone can attained, so everyone has an equal chance to socialise.
Have you even bothered to look on here? It’s so bloody easy to find and attend a social, stop trying to push your agenda that swingers are unfriendly and only want to fuck.
This. ^^^^^^^
I've mentioned three socials that I've know of, giving it a bit of thought it's four.
And that's just the ones I know of.
For some strange reason my comments gone unanswered.
I didn’t reply, I just didn’t quote you, it’s hard to quote everyone.
What are there socials? Where are they located?
It really isn’t, you just do what you did with this post and hit the reply and quote thingy.
Put ‘social’ in the forum search engine or have a look at the meet section. You have to do at least some of the work yourself and not wait for it to be handed to you.
Is there a reason your approach is so adversarial?
I’ve been polite and debated a topic, looked for advice and listened to responses.
You’ve gone on the attack and made presumptions.
Now your point is valid, I hadn’t tried using the forum search tool and searched for socials. That’s a good idea, simply saying that, without the attitude would have very much appreciated.
I don’t think it is whereas you are repeatedly calling swingers unsociable and not willing to do anything other than fuck. You constantly ignored advice and continued with your agenda and have now admitted that you haven’t done your reaseach, just dished out your opinion based on n=1"
Where have I repeatedly said this? I asked a question at the start and not commented on it since. |
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"I spent yesterday afternoon sat in a bar with 6 other people from the site, chatting and having a laugh. There was no question of play - just like minds meeting to chat.
How did you meet them and get an invite?
I’m talking about prearranged meets, anyone can attained, so everyone has an equal chance to socialise.
Have you even bothered to look on here? It’s so bloody easy to find and attend a social, stop trying to push your agenda that swingers are unfriendly and only want to fuck.
This. ^^^^^^^
I've mentioned three socials that I've know of, giving it a bit of thought it's four.
And that's just the ones I know of.
For some strange reason my comments gone unanswered.
I didn’t reply, I just didn’t quote you, it’s hard to quote everyone.
What are there socials? Where are they located?
It's.
Not.
That.
Hard.
https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/meets
It’s not using the quote that’s hard. Look what’s just happened above.
I reply to one persons post, before I can get to another persons post, they’re already slamming me for not listening to what they said and replying to the other post.
So normally I try and reply to everyone’s points on one single post rather than multiple peoples separate quotes.
In fairness I don't think it's an unreasonable observation.
You've found the lounge forum and posted plenty of times.
Meets and socials isn't far away from it.
I’ve normally looked via the meet me and nothing came up.
Also when I have looked at the forums there’s nothing local.
I just searched again as suggested and there’s nothing coming up for like 100 miles.
I’m surprised there’s not much around birmingham, hence this whole thread being started.
Start one yourself, it’s so simple."
I commented on that above.
I have connections at a birmingham venue I’ve run a fetish social at before, so if people are up for it, I could arrange something. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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We have friends outside of our swinging lifes that we hold dearly to us and would trust with our lifes..swinging for us is not about friendships, it's purely about sex snd the buzz of the unexpectedness a meet can bring..we have no friends in our swinging world.. |
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"Social in Birmingham 15th December then all of to the local swingers club.
Took me 3 min to find it on forums lol"
What did you use as a search term? I searched for social and for Birmingham.
Though I did find an annual charity social that was apparently in sept.
I’m not finding anything regular and bother for December. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I spent yesterday afternoon sat in a bar with 6 other people from the site, chatting and having a laugh. There was no question of play - just like minds meeting to chat.
How did you meet them and get an invite?
I’m talking about prearranged meets, anyone can attained, so everyone has an equal chance to socialise.
Have you even bothered to look on here? It’s so bloody easy to find and attend a social, stop trying to push your agenda that swingers are unfriendly and only want to fuck.
This. ^^^^^^^
I've mentioned three socials that I've know of, giving it a bit of thought it's four.
And that's just the ones I know of.
For some strange reason my comments gone unanswered.
I didn’t reply, I just didn’t quote you, it’s hard to quote everyone.
What are there socials? Where are they located?
It really isn’t, you just do what you did with this post and hit the reply and quote thingy.
Put ‘social’ in the forum search engine or have a look at the meet section. You have to do at least some of the work yourself and not wait for it to be handed to you.
Is there a reason your approach is so adversarial?
I’ve been polite and debated a topic, looked for advice and listened to responses.
You’ve gone on the attack and made presumptions.
Now your point is valid, I hadn’t tried using the forum search tool and searched for socials. That’s a good idea, simply saying that, without the attitude would have very much appreciated."
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I think that the people who have found this to be a sociable and inclusive site find it difficult to accept that some of us have a different experience. We used to attend an organised social that was very inclusive, some people were obviously only interested in talking to the ones they wanted to fuck but the majority were genuinely interested in being sociable.
We would love to have a group of friends we could hang out with who wouldn't run a mile if you flirted with their husband or someone mentioned oral sex but also enjoyed ordinary chat over a soy latte but alas, it has yet to happen. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Social in Birmingham 15th December then all of to the local swingers club.
Took me 3 min to find it on forums lol
What did you use as a search term? I searched for social and for Birmingham.
Though I did find an annual charity social that was apparently in sept.
I’m not finding anything regular and bother for December. "
Start your own thread hunny. See if you organise something in a particular area at a certain pub/restaurant of choice! See how many respond. |
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"Hello all
First of all, I’ll say I’m happy to be proved wrong here.
The majorty I’d my sexual experience has come from the bdsm scene. One big difference I have found is the sense of community.
On the bdsm scene, there are regular meets just for the sack of socialising and making friends, no play. At most events it’s very much a social thing.
What I’ve found on the swing scene is very different. It very much seems people are here for one thing only and not actually interested in forming any real friendships.
Some of my best and longest friends are from the bdsm scene, I personally find it sad that the swing scene doesn’t appear to be the same way.
Do you lot feel the same? Different? Can explain a good reason way?"
We have been to loads of organised socials here that have had over 100 attendees. They are very much "no play" events, where people are encouraged to dance, chat, make friends and just enjoy the evening. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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You must understand something Op...
In the bdsm world people are looking for kink
In the swinging world people are looking for sex...
I have been in both worlds for a few years...
I enjoy the swinging world more because I’m looking for sex....
Going to a bdsm party and watching impact play all night got really old fast....
But the bdsm world is more welcoming in my opinion because they are not as focused on aesthetics....
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Having been to social events for both groups the BDSM community has the edge on it maybe because more ball gags are in place though I think in reality there is more respect for fellow devotees. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Hello all
First of all, I’ll say I’m happy to be proved wrong here.
The majorty I’d my sexual experience has come from the bdsm scene. One big difference I have found is the sense of community.
On the bdsm scene, there are regular meets just for the sack of socialising and making friends, no play. At most events it’s very much a social thing.
What I’ve found on the swing scene is very different. It very much seems people are here for one thing only and not actually interested in forming any real friendships.
Some of my best and longest friends are from the bdsm scene, I personally find it sad that the swing scene doesn’t appear to be the same way.
Do you lot feel the same? Different? Can explain a good reason way?
I think you're absolutely right. We are here just to meet people for sex not make friends. Are you saying that's wrong or pointing out the difference?
Can you have sex with someone you don't like?"
You don't have to be friends with people to decide if you like them or not and some of the women I've had sex with I have no idea if I like them or not, other than sex the interaction isn't long enough. I know I fancy them, that's all I need to know. |
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"Hello all
First of all, I’ll say I’m happy to be proved wrong here.
The majorty I’d my sexual experience has come from the bdsm scene. One big difference I have found is the sense of community.
On the bdsm scene, there are regular meets just for the sack of socialising and making friends, no play. At most events it’s very much a social thing.
What I’ve found on the swing scene is very different. It very much seems people are here for one thing only and not actually interested in forming any real friendships.
Some of my best and longest friends are from the bdsm scene, I personally find it sad that the swing scene doesn’t appear to be the same way.
Do you lot feel the same? Different? Can explain a good reason way?
I think you're absolutely right. We are here just to meet people for sex not make friends. Are you saying that's wrong or pointing out the difference?
Abit of both, if it wasn’t for the social side with the bdsm scene, I’d not have had the exprience I’ve had.
Those that say online and arrange meets from there very rarely have any play and often moan about it.
But those that activity take part on the community side have a blast.
I’ve hust not found there here."
Because as Ive found out there is very little sex goes on from online meets, mainly talk and time wasters. Most of the swinging scene where sex actually takes place is clubs and private parties. We just stay on here now to keep in touch with people.
For example we've had a meet up for 3 days running, not a single suitable message about it, can guarantee those three days at a club would have resulted in upwards of 10-15 very good fun experiences.
But then bdsm is mu h more about the mind than physical satisfaction, swinging is much more about shallow instant gratification and move on. Although I'm sure loads of the experts who don't have sex will disagree with me |
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By *imjayneCouple
over a year ago
Stafford |
The people we have met off here in general have been all pretty good, we have had a few socials where we did not play and to be honest we enjoyed their company a lot.
We tried dipping our toes in the BDSM scene a couple of times but found the attitude of some of the guys left a lot to be desired! |
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"Hello all
First of all, I’ll say I’m happy to be proved wrong here.
The majorty I’d my sexual experience has come from the bdsm scene. One big difference I have found is the sense of community.
On the bdsm scene, there are regular meets just for the sack of socialising and making friends, no play. At most events it’s very much a social thing.
What I’ve found on the swing scene is very different. It very much seems people are here for one thing only and not actually interested in forming any real friendships.
Some of my best and longest friends are from the bdsm scene, I personally find it sad that the swing scene doesn’t appear to be the same way.
Do you lot feel the same? Different? Can explain a good reason way?
I think you're absolutely right. We are here just to meet people for sex not make friends. Are you saying that's wrong or pointing out the difference?
Abit of both, if it wasn’t for the social side with the bdsm scene, I’d not have had the exprience I’ve had.
Those that say online and arrange meets from there very rarely have any play and often moan about it.
But those that activity take part on the community side have a blast.
I’ve hust not found there here.
Because as Ive found out there is very little sex goes on from online meets, mainly talk and time wasters. Most of the swinging scene where sex actually takes place is clubs and private parties. We just stay on here now to keep in touch with people.
For example we've had a meet up for 3 days running, not a single suitable message about it, can guarantee those three days at a club would have resulted in upwards of 10-15 very good fun experiences.
But then bdsm is mu h more about the mind than physical satisfaction, swinging is much more about shallow instant gratification and move on. Although I'm sure loads of the experts who don't have sex will disagree with me "
Attitude is everything.
Sex is much more to us than "shallow instant gratification", and we wouldn't play with anyone who we wouldn't want to be friends with.
Some of the friendships we have made on here will be lifelong friends. |
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over a year ago
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"Hello all
First of all, I’ll say I’m happy to be proved wrong here.
The majorty I’d my sexual experience has come from the bdsm scene. One big difference I have found is the sense of community.
On the bdsm scene, there are regular meets just for the sack of socialising and making friends, no play. At most events it’s very much a social thing.
What I’ve found on the swing scene is very different. It very much seems people are here for one thing only and not actually interested in forming any real friendships.
Some of my best and longest friends are from the bdsm scene, I personally find it sad that the swing scene doesn’t appear to be the same way.
Do you lot feel the same? Different? Can explain a good reason way?
I think you're absolutely right. We are here just to meet people for sex not make friends. Are you saying that's wrong or pointing out the difference?
Abit of both, if it wasn’t for the social side with the bdsm scene, I’d not have had the exprience I’ve had.
Those that say online and arrange meets from there very rarely have any play and often moan about it.
But those that activity take part on the community side have a blast.
I’ve hust not found there here.
Because as Ive found out there is very little sex goes on from online meets, mainly talk and time wasters. Most of the swinging scene where sex actually takes place is clubs and private parties. We just stay on here now to keep in touch with people.
For example we've had a meet up for 3 days running, not a single suitable message about it, can guarantee those three days at a club would have resulted in upwards of 10-15 very good fun experiences.
But then bdsm is mu h more about the mind than physical satisfaction, swinging is much more about shallow instant gratification and move on. Although I'm sure loads of the experts who don't have sex will disagree with me
Attitude is everything.
Sex is much more to us than "shallow instant gratification", and we wouldn't play with anyone who we wouldn't want to be friends with.
Some of the friendships we have made on here will be lifelong friends."
Erm, great. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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In the end most people in the scene are looking to play with other people, the realities for different people are varied, stock answers from a single lady would be that there is a fantastic social scene, perhaps they are aware that most people being social to them are doing so because they want to play with them, not just to be social. Perhaps they are not, for the ordinary man it’s totally different, for couples somewhere in between, from personal experience we’ve seen the change in social
Interaction with people once it’s established we don’t want to play with them |
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By *otgirl32Woman
over a year ago
Ashton Under Lyne |
I think the community feeling comes from where you go as a regular. One off meetings anywhere will lack that. For me it's the house parties I go to where I have a GREAT community feeling with many who attend regularly. It's great fun to have sex, then chill for a bit surrounded by nice people discussing politics then back to sex. Smaller focus interest groups (BDSM being one, there are others) naturally feel more closer because not everyone shares those interests so you're automatically going to have that communal feeling. |
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over a year ago
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"Hello all
First of all, I’ll say I’m happy to be proved wrong here.
The majorty I’d my sexual experience has come from the bdsm scene. One big difference I have found is the sense of community.
On the bdsm scene, there are regular meets just for the sack of socialising and making friends, no play. At most events it’s very much a social thing.
What I’ve found on the swing scene is very different. It very much seems people are here for one thing only and not actually interested in forming any real friendships.
Some of my best and longest friends are from the bdsm scene, I personally find it sad that the swing scene doesn’t appear to be the same way.
Do you lot feel the same? Different? Can explain a good reason way?
I think you're absolutely right. We are here just to meet people for sex not make friends. Are you saying that's wrong or pointing out the difference?
Abit of both, if it wasn’t for the social side with the bdsm scene, I’d not have had the exprience I’ve had.
Those that say online and arrange meets from there very rarely have any play and often moan about it.
But those that activity take part on the community side have a blast.
I’ve hust not found there here.
Because as Ive found out there is very little sex goes on from online meets, mainly talk and time wasters. Most of the swinging scene where sex actually takes place is clubs and private parties. "
No that's you other people actually meet from sites like fab but then some people don't come across well on line therefore people don't meet them. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"My experiences are the exact opposite to yours OP.
I’d say 99% of my time that comes under the swinging banner is spent socialising and I love it.
I wonder if gender makes a difference here?
I’ve never seen any sort of social meet up, something outside of a swing club, just to make friends. The bdsm scene has something called a munch and the whole scene revolves around them."
I think you have hit the nail on the head there the BDSM scene has a healthy life through munches for many years so more have mat that way. However both scenes do vary depending on where people are. |
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"Hello all
First of all, I’ll say I’m happy to be proved wrong here.
The majorty I’d my sexual experience has come from the bdsm scene. One big difference I have found is the sense of community.
On the bdsm scene, there are regular meets just for the sack of socialising and making friends, no play. At most events it’s very much a social thing.
What I’ve found on the swing scene is very different. It very much seems people are here for one thing only and not actually interested in forming any real friendships.
Some of my best and longest friends are from the bdsm scene, I personally find it sad that the swing scene doesn’t appear to be the same way.
Do you lot feel the same? Different? Can explain a good reason way?
I think you're absolutely right. We are here just to meet people for sex not make friends. Are you saying that's wrong or pointing out the difference?
Abit of both, if it wasn’t for the social side with the bdsm scene, I’d not have had the exprience I’ve had.
Those that say online and arrange meets from there very rarely have any play and often moan about it.
But those that activity take part on the community side have a blast.
I’ve hust not found there here.
Because as Ive found out there is very little sex goes on from online meets, mainly talk and time wasters. Most of the swinging scene where sex actually takes place is clubs and private parties.
No that's you other people actually meet from sites like fab but then some people don't come across well on line therefore people don't meet them."
No that's not just us, otherwise the forum wouldnt be full of people moaning every day about timewasters and nobody meets. A single woman will not have a iable perspective on this as you can get a meet at the drop of a hat due to numbers. Couples and single guys can't. |
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"Hello all
First of all, I’ll say I’m happy to be proved wrong here.
The majorty I’d my sexual experience has come from the bdsm scene. One big difference I have found is the sense of community.
On the bdsm scene, there are regular meets just for the sack of socialising and making friends, no play. At most events it’s very much a social thing.
What I’ve found on the swing scene is very different. It very much seems people are here for one thing only and not actually interested in forming any real friendships.
Some of my best and longest friends are from the bdsm scene, I personally find it sad that the swing scene doesn’t appear to be the same way.
Do you lot feel the same? Different? Can explain a good reason way?
I think you're absolutely right. We are here just to meet people for sex not make friends. Are you saying that's wrong or pointing out the difference?
Abit of both, if it wasn’t for the social side with the bdsm scene, I’d not have had the exprience I’ve had.
Those that say online and arrange meets from there very rarely have any play and often moan about it.
But those that activity take part on the community side have a blast.
I’ve hust not found there here.
Because as Ive found out there is very little sex goes on from online meets, mainly talk and time wasters. Most of the swinging scene where sex actually takes place is clubs and private parties.
No that's you other people actually meet from sites like fab but then some people don't come across well on line therefore people don't meet them.
No that's not just us, otherwise the forum wouldnt be full of people moaning every day about timewasters and nobody meets. A single woman will not have a iable perspective on this as you can get a meet at the drop of a hat due to numbers. Couples and single guys can't. "
No I can have a good perspective on people meeting here single or not There are thousands of couples who meet on here but I can see how condescending people struggle. |
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"Hello all
First of all, I’ll say I’m happy to be proved wrong here.
The majorty I’d my sexual experience has come from the bdsm scene. One big difference I have found is the sense of community.
On the bdsm scene, there are regular meets just for the sack of socialising and making friends, no play. At most events it’s very much a social thing.
What I’ve found on the swing scene is very different. It very much seems people are here for one thing only and not actually interested in forming any real friendships.
Some of my best and longest friends are from the bdsm scene, I personally find it sad that the swing scene doesn’t appear to be the same way.
Do you lot feel the same? Different? Can explain a good reason way?
I think you're absolutely right. We are here just to meet people for sex not make friends. Are you saying that's wrong or pointing out the difference?
Abit of both, if it wasn’t for the social side with the bdsm scene, I’d not have had the exprience I’ve had.
Those that say online and arrange meets from there very rarely have any play and often moan about it.
But those that activity take part on the community side have a blast.
I’ve hust not found there here.
Because as Ive found out there is very little sex goes on from online meets, mainly talk and time wasters. Most of the swinging scene where sex actually takes place is clubs and private parties.
No that's you other people actually meet from sites like fab but then some people don't come across well on line therefore people don't meet them.
No that's not just us, otherwise the forum wouldnt be full of people moaning every day about timewasters and nobody meets. A single woman will not have a iable perspective on this as you can get a meet at the drop of a hat due to numbers. Couples and single guys can't. "
...and as a man you do not have a viable perspective on how difficult or not it is for single women to get a meet. |
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"Hello all
First of all, I’ll say I’m happy to be proved wrong here.
The majorty I’d my sexual experience has come from the bdsm scene. One big difference I have found is the sense of community.
On the bdsm scene, there are regular meets just for the sack of socialising and making friends, no play. At most events it’s very much a social thing.
What I’ve found on the swing scene is very different. It very much seems people are here for one thing only and not actually interested in forming any real friendships.
Some of my best and longest friends are from the bdsm scene, I personally find it sad that the swing scene doesn’t appear to be the same way.
Do you lot feel the same? Different? Can explain a good reason way?
I think you're absolutely right. We are here just to meet people for sex not make friends. Are you saying that's wrong or pointing out the difference?
Can you have sex with someone you don't like?
You don't have to be friends with people to decide if you like them or not and some of the women I've had sex with I have no idea if I like them or not, other than sex the interaction isn't long enough. I know I fancy them, that's all I need to know. "
Maybe that's an inherent difference between the BDSM and swinging world.
BDSM world all you have to do is fancy someone to fuck them.
Swinging world you actually have to like someone to fuck them.
Who knows..... |
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I can only speak from my own experience. I found the BDSM scene to be very social, a sense of community like OP said, but not very sexual. The swinging scene the complete opposite. |
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"Hello all
First of all, I’ll say I’m happy to be proved wrong here.
The majorty I’d my sexual experience has come from the bdsm scene. One big difference I have found is the sense of community.
On the bdsm scene, there are regular meets just for the sack of socialising and making friends, no play. At most events it’s very much a social thing.
What I’ve found on the swing scene is very different. It very much seems people are here for one thing only and not actually interested in forming any real friendships.
Some of my best and longest friends are from the bdsm scene, I personally find it sad that the swing scene doesn’t appear to be the same way.
Do you lot feel the same? Different? Can explain a good reason way?"
Yep , for us it’s all about the sex .
We have companionship , friendship , depth , emotion and love with each other and our family and friends that we don’t swing with . We swing to experience nsa sex with like minded playmates .
There are plenty of swingers who hold the same sense of value in the social and friendship side of it as you do . Seek them out instead of sluts like us and you’ll not go far wrong |
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