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"as a single guy, if someone says they are not interested then I'm fine with that, I would rather them be honest and have the decency to say no than just delete my message and not respond at all" the trouble is, women can't tell in advance if someone is going to react rudely, so a lot of the time it makes life easier.. | |||
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"I get blocked mid-conversation, presumably because they just got bored. I know for a fact I've done nothing to two people who did it to me today" Blocking doesn't always mean you have done nothing wrong. Like you say, perhaps they felt the conversation was going nowhere. At least they didn't set a meet and leave you standing. | |||
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"as a single guy, if someone says they are not interested then I'm fine with that, I would rather them be honest and have the decency to say no than just delete my message and not respond at all" A delete and no response is a not interested. Check the faq's Everyone is obsessed with their sent messages. Send it and forget about it. If you get a response, bonus. Don't let the sent message box control your life. Can you give one good reason why you need to know what happened to your sent message? | |||
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"as a single guy, if someone says they are not interested then I'm fine with that, I would rather them be honest and have the decency to say no than just delete my message and not respond at all the trouble is, women can't tell in advance if someone is going to react rudely, so a lot of the time it makes life easier.." I get that, but surely it doesn't hurt to politely decline, and if he is persistent or annoying then just be blunt and block if need be | |||
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"as a single guy, if someone says they are not interested then I'm fine with that, I would rather them be honest and have the decency to say no than just delete my message and not respond at all the trouble is, women can't tell in advance if someone is going to react rudely, so a lot of the time it makes life easier.. I get that, but surely it doesn't hurt to politely decline, and if he is persistent or annoying then just be blunt and block if need be " Why take the risk of receiving the abuse though? | |||
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"as a single guy, if someone says they are not interested then I'm fine with that, I would rather them be honest and have the decency to say no than just delete my message and not respond at all the trouble is, women can't tell in advance if someone is going to react rudely, so a lot of the time it makes life easier.. I get that, but surely it doesn't hurt to politely decline, and if he is persistent or annoying then just be blunt and block if need be " The woman can't tell in advance how the person is going to react. So NO, she does not politely decline. So no, you don't really 'get it' | |||
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"I get blocked mid-conversation, presumably because they just got bored. I know for a fact I've done nothing to two people who did it to me today Blocking doesn't always mean you have done nothing wrong. Like you say, perhaps they felt the conversation was going nowhere. At least they didn't set a meet and leave you standing." True. It'd just be nice to feel like it could lead to a meet but it never does xx | |||
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"as a single guy, if someone says they are not interested then I'm fine with that, I would rather them be honest and have the decency to say no than just delete my message and not respond at all the trouble is, women can't tell in advance if someone is going to react rudely, so a lot of the time it makes life easier.. I get that, but surely it doesn't hurt to politely decline, and if he is persistent or annoying then just be blunt and block if need be " that's what i just said. i cannot know in advance if some bloke is going to reply with a mouthful of bile..why should i put up with it just because i might offend some random person i don't want to talk to anyway..if it didn't happen, then women would not do that. | |||
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"I always send polite messages, never crude or obscene ones. maybe i was brought up the proper way and learned to answer someone, even if I don't want to converse" have you not got what several women have just said? | |||
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"I always send polite messages, never crude or obscene ones. maybe i was brought up the proper way and learned to answer someone, even if I don't want to converse" So you answer all the junk mail you get and every email from Nigerian Princes? | |||
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"The majority of men are very polite when you turn them down. They appreciate someone taking the time to reply to them. " Spot on! xx | |||
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"I always send polite messages, never crude or obscene ones. maybe i was brought up the proper way and learned to answer someone, even if I don't want to converse So you answer all the junk mail you get and every email from Nigerian Princes?" It’s not the same as that at all. People have profiles on here and unless they specifically say they’re not looking to meet then they are expecting to get messages from people on here. It’s not just some random person just emailing randomly like junk mail. Whoever used that analogy in the first place has no idea about communication between people on here. | |||
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"The majority of men are very polite when you turn them down. They appreciate someone taking the time to reply to them. " as I said, being polite doesn't hurt anyone. after all it's a site where people are looking to meet like minded folk. if they dont float your boat thats fine, just move on. most people will accept that. | |||
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"This has cropped up in forums before and I don't think people are obligated to respond to every single message they receive on here. Some women receive hundreds of messages a day, and I spoke to one girl who said one guy sent her four or five messages within half an hour. If everyone did that your inbox would be going mad. If someone doesn't reply to me then I just move on. No big deal. " Some women enjoy getting hundreds of messages a day. Don’t feel sorry for them. They know perfectly well what to do to stop getting so many messages but they don’t do it. Why? | |||
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"Would anyone like a nice warming hot chocolate?" Yes please xxx | |||
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"I always send polite messages, never crude or obscene ones. maybe i was brought up the proper way and learned to answer someone, even if I don't want to converse" I will 99% of the time message someone back with a polite thanks for the interest but I do not wish to meet with you and or your partner so it's not like I completely ignore people and I get reply like "why are you on fab if your not willing to meet people" or "your fake then if you don't meet me" it's very rarely a nice response or if it is they are like "but just can show you a good time if you just give me one meet" | |||
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"I always send polite messages, never crude or obscene ones. maybe i was brought up the proper way and learned to answer someone, even if I don't want to converse So you answer all the junk mail you get and every email from Nigerian Princes?" .....its a swinging site, if the profile says they are looking to meet, then expect messages. if your not interested then all you have to do is say so. most people will accept that. if they don't then you have the option to block | |||
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"Would anyone like a nice warming hot chocolate? Yes please xxx" My frother's a bit fucked You'll have to have it flat | |||
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"I always send polite messages, never crude or obscene ones. maybe i was brought up the proper way and learned to answer someone, even if I don't want to converse I will 99% of the time message someone back with a polite thanks for the interest but I do not wish to meet with you and or your partner so it's not like I completely ignore people and I get reply like "why are you on fab if your not willing to meet people" or "your fake then if you don't meet me" it's very rarely a nice response or if it is they are like "but just can show you a good time if you just give me one meet" " that is a sign of someone being desperate, and not actually I to the scene, just after a quick shag behind their wife's back. I understand your frustration but were not all the same | |||
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"I'm not saying all single guys do it but some are really persistent and when you say no they still keep trying, and if I decline to meet them they turn nasty calling me a slut and free whore anyone else getting the same?? " What sort of thing do you reply to them? I find most are polite as Miss Innocent said. I've only needed to block a couple of men for being abusive. | |||
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"Would anyone like a nice warming hot chocolate? Yes please xxx My frother's a bit fucked You'll have to have it flat" I bet you've heard that before xxx | |||
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"Would anyone like a nice warming hot chocolate? Bring the marshmallows " Cant do bits of dead pig Sorry | |||
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"Would anyone like a nice warming hot chocolate? Yes please xxx" shame would be cold by the time I got there lol | |||
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"This has cropped up in forums before and I don't think people are obligated to respond to every single message they receive on here. Some women receive hundreds of messages a day, and I spoke to one girl who said one guy sent her four or five messages within half an hour. If everyone did that your inbox would be going mad. If someone doesn't reply to me then I just move on. No big deal. Some women enjoy getting hundreds of messages a day. Don’t feel sorry for them. They know perfectly well what to do to stop getting so many messages but they don’t do it. Why?" | |||
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"I have never understood why a man will start being abusive after he has been turned down. It wont make her change her mind will it? Never abused anyone on this site, and never will." same here. | |||
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"I have never understood why a man will start being abusive after he has been turned down. It wont make her change her mind will it? Never abused anyone on this site, and never will." It's a power thing. They are trying to gain some of that back having been rejected. | |||
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"I have never understood why a man will start being abusive after he has been turned down. It wont make her change her mind will it? Never abused anyone on this site, and never will." Same, some guys just think they are god’s gift and can't take a “No” when it happens. | |||
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" What sort of thing do you reply to them? I find most are polite as Miss Innocent said. I've only needed to block a couple of men for being abusive. " I'm never nasty about it I'm just honest if I say no and they ask why I will tell the truth if I don't find someone attractive I will say sometimes it's purely just I'm not meeting at the moment and that doesn't seem to be a good enough response for some. I'm my saying every single guy is like it because some can be really nice about it x | |||
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"I always send polite messages, never crude or obscene ones. maybe i was brought up the proper way and learned to answer someone, even if I don't want to converse So you answer all the junk mail you get and every email from Nigerian Princes? It’s not the same as that at all. People have profiles on here and unless they specifically say they’re not looking to meet then they are expecting to get messages from people on here. It’s not just some random person just emailing randomly like junk mail. Whoever used that analogy in the first place has no idea about communication between people on here." It's EXACTLY the same as that in a lot of cases - as an example a profile states quite clearly they're not looking to be dominated and yet gets a message from someone offering to dominate them - or the many other examples where the sender has clearly not read a profile - the message is therefore unsolicited and therefore no different from junk mail. And yes people can apply filters to an extent and a vast majority do - but short of filtering completely so no-one can contact them, and by doing so potentially miss out on the good guys that may do so, who accept no means no or a deleted unread is a no, there's no way to completely avoid getting the unsolicited junk messages they are sent. Until users accept that a delete with no reply is a perfectly acceptable way of saying no thanks on this site there will always be those that bemoan the lack of reply unfortunately. | |||
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"well I've had a number of people on this thread view my profile, so I am going to send a quick hello to those, and see if I get a hello back. here goes the test lol" Why? They viewed your profile, that’s all. | |||
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"We've only ever gotten one really nasty message on here and it was forum-related. I do wonder under what circumstances such messages are sent." i think the type of men that react like babies, would not react to a couple in the same way at all, just because of the male partner..personally, the circumstances when people have been rude or abusive to me is in response to a completely stock 'thank you for your message, but not really what im looking for.have a nice w/end'..or whatever...not exactly inciting a horrible response.. | |||
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"well I've had a number of people on this thread view my profile, so I am going to send a quick hello to those, and see if I get a hello back. here goes the test lol Why? They viewed your profile, that’s all. " Welcome to the male mind. Someone looks at us, it's only polite to say hello xx | |||
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" What sort of thing do you reply to them? I find most are polite as Miss Innocent said. I've only needed to block a couple of men for being abusive. I'm never nasty about it I'm just honest if I say no and they ask why I will tell the truth if I don't find someone attractive I will say sometimes it's purely just I'm not meeting at the moment and that doesn't seem to be a good enough response for some. I'm my saying every single guy is like it because some can be really nice about it x" Tip from me- use a reply that isn't personal. "Sorry you're too far away, have fun". (Don't reply when they ask where you are or say they will travel.) Or "you look lovely but we're not compatible sorry". (Don't tell them you don't fancy them as that can hurt their feelings.) Men have feelings too- it can be really crap when they get nothing but rejection. Some women/ couples can be rude when they reply (and block!) and that just pisses them off and they take it out on someone else. I'm not excusing the abusive people at all, just trying to help. If you're not meeting- if you delete 'men' off your Looking For list it takes you off the searches and really reduces mail. x | |||
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"well I've had a number of people on this thread view my profile, so I am going to send a quick hello to those, and see if I get a hello back. here goes the test lol Why? They viewed your profile, that’s all. Welcome to the male mind. Someone looks at us, it's only polite to say hello xx" and people wonder why most women browse undercover!! | |||
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"I always send polite messages, never crude or obscene ones. maybe i was brought up the proper way and learned to answer someone, even if I don't want to converse So you answer all the junk mail you get and every email from Nigerian Princes? It’s not the same as that at all. People have profiles on here and unless they specifically say they’re not looking to meet then they are expecting to get messages from people on here. It’s not just some random person just emailing randomly like junk mail. Whoever used that analogy in the first place has no idea about communication between people on here. It's EXACTLY the same as that in a lot of cases - as an example a profile states quite clearly they're not looking to be dominated and yet gets a message from someone offering to dominate them - or the many other examples where the sender has clearly not read a profile - the message is therefore unsolicited and therefore no different from junk mail. And yes people can apply filters to an extent and a vast majority do - but short of filtering completely so no-one can contact them, and by doing so potentially miss out on the good guys that may do so, who accept no means no or a deleted unread is a no, there's no way to completely avoid getting the unsolicited junk messages they are sent. Until users accept that a delete with no reply is a perfectly acceptable way of saying no thanks on this site there will always be those that bemoan the lack of reply unfortunately." Funny then that I rarely get abusive messages. I think I’ll stick to my way of dealing with messages I get rather than the attitude of treating them like junk mail. | |||
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"well I've had a number of people on this thread view my profile, so I am going to send a quick hello to those, and see if I get a hello back. here goes the test lol Why? They viewed your profile, that’s all. Welcome to the male mind. Someone looks at us, it's only polite to say hello xx and people wonder why most women browse undercover!!" It's just hello. What's wrong with that? xx | |||
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"We've only ever gotten one really nasty message on here and it was forum-related. I do wonder under what circumstances such messages are sent. i think the type of men that react like babies, would not react to a couple in the same way at all, just because of the male partner..personally, the circumstances when people have been rude or abusive to me is in response to a completely stock 'thank you for your message, but not really what im looking for.have a nice w/end'..or whatever...not exactly inciting a horrible response.." If you add "you look lovely".... to.. 'but not really what I'm looking for...' it gives them a little ego boost and might make them smile. No harm in that. Little white lie but nice. | |||
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"well I've had a number of people on this thread view my profile, so I am going to send a quick hello to those, and see if I get a hello back. here goes the test lol Why? They viewed your profile, that’s all. Welcome to the male mind. Someone looks at us, it's only polite to say hello xx" exactly...and I have had 4 replies to say hello back so far. see it doesn't hurt to give a polite response afterall lol | |||
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"We've only ever gotten one really nasty message on here and it was forum-related. I do wonder under what circumstances such messages are sent. i think the type of men that react like babies, would not react to a couple in the same way at all, just because of the male partner..personally, the circumstances when people have been rude or abusive to me is in response to a completely stock 'thank you for your message, but not really what im looking for.have a nice w/end'..or whatever...not exactly inciting a horrible response.. If you add "you look lovely".... to.. 'but not really what I'm looking for...' it gives them a little ego boost and might make them smile. No harm in that. Little white lie but nice. " This is exactly what we tend to do. It seems less blunt. | |||
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" What sort of thing do you reply to them? I find most are polite as Miss Innocent said. I've only needed to block a couple of men for being abusive. I'm never nasty about it I'm just honest if I say no and they ask why I will tell the truth if I don't find someone attractive I will say sometimes it's purely just I'm not meeting at the moment and that doesn't seem to be a good enough response for some. I'm my saying every single guy is like it because some can be really nice about it x Tip from me- use a reply that isn't personal. "Sorry you're too far away, have fun". (Don't reply when they ask where you are or say they will travel.) Or "you look lovely but we're not compatible sorry". (Don't tell them you don't fancy them as that can hurt their feelings.) Men have feelings too- it can be really crap when they get nothing but rejection. Some women/ couples can be rude when they reply (and block!) and that just pisses them off and they take it out on someone else. I'm not excusing the abusive people at all, just trying to help. If you're not meeting- if you delete 'men' off your Looking For list it takes you off the searches and really reduces mail. x" Exactly this. I used generic reasons for not meeting, I wouldn’t reject someone for personal reasons. Distance, not being able to accommodate, don’t meet smokers, not looking for the same thing, didn’t support Norwich | |||
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" Tip from me- use a reply that isn't personal. "Sorry you're too far away, have fun". (Don't reply when they ask where you are or say they will travel.) Or "you look lovely but we're not compatible sorry". (Don't tell them you don't fancy them as that can hurt their feelings.) Men have feelings too- it can be really crap when they get nothing but rejection. Some women/ couples can be rude when they reply (and block!) and that just pisses them off and they take it out on someone else. I'm not excusing the abusive people at all, just trying to help. If you're not meeting- if you delete 'men' off your Looking For list it takes you off the searches and really reduces mail. x" Thank you I will definitely be using these in the future, I get that some women/couples could be rude and blunt also x | |||
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" Tip from me- use a reply that isn't personal. "Sorry you're too far away, have fun". (Don't reply when they ask where you are or say they will travel.) Or "you look lovely but we're not compatible sorry". (Don't tell them you don't fancy them as that can hurt their feelings.) Men have feelings too- it can be really crap when they get nothing but rejection. Some women/ couples can be rude when they reply (and block!) and that just pisses them off and they take it out on someone else. I'm not excusing the abusive people at all, just trying to help. If you're not meeting- if you delete 'men' off your Looking For list it takes you off the searches and really reduces mail. x Thank you I will definitely be using these in the future, I get that some women/couples could be rude and blunt also x" You've made me smile. Thank you. x | |||
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" What sort of thing do you reply to them? I find most are polite as Miss Innocent said. I've only needed to block a couple of men for being abusive. I'm never nasty about it I'm just honest if I say no and they ask why I will tell the truth if I don't find someone attractive I will say sometimes it's purely just I'm not meeting at the moment and that doesn't seem to be a good enough response for some. I'm my saying every single guy is like it because some can be really nice about it x Tip from me- use a reply that isn't personal. "Sorry you're too far away, have fun". (Don't reply when they ask where you are or say they will travel.) Or "you look lovely but we're not compatible sorry". (Don't tell them you don't fancy them as that can hurt their feelings.) Men have feelings too- it can be really crap when they get nothing but rejection. Some women/ couples can be rude when they reply (and block!) and that just pisses them off and they take it out on someone else. I'm not excusing the abusive people at all, just trying to help. If you're not meeting- if you delete 'men' off your Looking For list it takes you off the searches and really reduces mail. x Exactly this. I used generic reasons for not meeting, I wouldn’t reject someone for personal reasons. Distance, not being able to accommodate, don’t meet smokers, not looking for the same thing, didn’t support Norwich " Who on earth supports Nor oops | |||
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"Was a single gent no one should be pushy or rude when pm or talking about a meet up it gets my goat up when I hear lady's are having a hard time because they say no to a man then he starts being an ass gives all single guy's a bad name grow up gents " It doesn’t give all men a bad name. | |||
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" What sort of thing do you reply to them? I find most are polite as Miss Innocent said. I've only needed to block a couple of men for being abusive. I'm never nasty about it I'm just honest if I say no and they ask why I will tell the truth if I don't find someone attractive I will say sometimes it's purely just I'm not meeting at the moment and that doesn't seem to be a good enough response for some. I'm my saying every single guy is like it because some can be really nice about it x Tip from me- use a reply that isn't personal. "Sorry you're too far away, have fun". (Don't reply when they ask where you are or say they will travel.) Or "you look lovely but we're not compatible sorry". (Don't tell them you don't fancy them as that can hurt their feelings.) Men have feelings too- it can be really crap when they get nothing but rejection. Some women/ couples can be rude when they reply (and block!) and that just pisses them off and they take it out on someone else. I'm not excusing the abusive people at all, just trying to help. If you're not meeting- if you delete 'men' off your Looking For list it takes you off the searches and really reduces mail. x Exactly this. I used generic reasons for not meeting, I wouldn’t reject someone for personal reasons. Distance, not being able to accommodate, don’t meet smokers, not looking for the same thing, didn’t support Norwich Who on earth supports Nor oops " Bloody cheek | |||
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" Funny then that I rarely get abusive messages. I think I’ll stick to my way of dealing with messages I get rather than the attitude of treating them like junk mail." We each use the site and it's tools as we see fit and that at the end of the day is all that matters - but good for you if you've found a way that works for you Unfortunately as evidenced by this thread there are those out there that DO get abusive messages regardless of whatever safeguards they put in place and it comes back to if everyone accepted that a delete without reply or a polite no thanks, means no thanks, the site would be a lot happier place | |||
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" We each use the site and it's tools as we see fit and that at the end of the day is all that matters - but good for you if you've found a way that works for you Unfortunately as evidenced by this thread there are those out there that DO get abusive messages regardless of whatever safeguards they put in place and it comes back to if everyone accepted that a delete without reply or a polite no thanks, means no thanks, the site would be a lot happier place " | |||
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"Was a single gent no one should be pushy or rude when pm or talking about a meet up it gets my goat up when I hear lady's are having a hard time because they say no to a man then he starts being an ass gives all single guy's a bad name grow up gents " Doesn't give all single guys a bad name at all - we are each (men/women/couples alike) judged on our own behaviour and if we are genuine and show respect and consideration then that will always shine through regardless of the actions of others | |||
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" We each use the site and it's tools as we see fit and that at the end of the day is all that matters - but good for you if you've found a way that works for you Unfortunately as evidenced by this thread there are those out there that DO get abusive messages regardless of whatever safeguards they put in place and it comes back to if everyone accepted that a delete without reply or a polite no thanks, means no thanks, the site would be a lot happier place " totally agree. | |||
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"I'm not saying all single guys do it but some are really persistent and when you say no they still keep trying, and if I decline to meet them they turn nasty calling me a slut and free whore anyone else getting the same?? " I did say in my original post that NOT all guys do it and I'm not trying to give them a bad name at all as I have met some genuine guys off this site that I have actually become friends with and I get on really well with in and out of the bedroom so not all guys are bad there are good eggs out there | |||
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"The majority of men are very polite when you turn them down. They appreciate someone taking the time to reply to them. " This is the thing. Some women have experienced abuse when rejecting others not so. Pot luck who messages you I guess. People are going to continue doing what they have been doing regardless in terms of whether they politely decline or just block so I am not going to give my opinon on that. I for one do appreciate anyone who replies to me. But I am not representative of all men of course. | |||
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"I always send polite messages, never crude or obscene ones. maybe i was brought up the proper way and learned to answer someone, even if I don't want to converse So you answer all the junk mail you get and every email from Nigerian Princes?" This get's said a lot. It's a very cheap and robotic way of looking at it. I got a nice item of unsolicited mail once. It was a tax rebate cheque. See my point? Personally hate it when I see this analogy. It's cold. Just a reply advising posters to refer to the Faq is good enough. No offence intended. | |||
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"The majority of men are very polite when you turn them down. They appreciate someone taking the time to reply to them. This is the thing. Some women have experienced abuse when rejecting others not so. Pot luck who messages you I guess. People are going to continue doing what they have been doing regardless in terms of whether they politely decline or just block so I am not going to give my opinon on that. I for one do appreciate anyone who replies to me. But I am not representative of all men of course." Ok, I’ve had crude first messages and I’ve sent harsh messages back to which I think I’ll probably get some abuse back but nope, they’ll either not reply or they reply being very apologetic and we then have a chat and it is nearly always the fact they get messages deleted unread after trying being nice when messaging being suggestive, a bit rude etc and nothing works for them. Having someone actually take some time to respond to them, even if it is to tell them off at first means a lot to them. | |||
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"This has cropped up in forums before and I don't think people are obligated to respond to every single message they receive on here. Some women receive hundreds of messages a day, and I spoke to one girl who said one guy sent her four or five messages within half an hour. If everyone did that your inbox would be going mad. If someone doesn't reply to me then I just move on. No big deal. Some women enjoy getting hundreds of messages a day. Don’t feel sorry for them. They know perfectly well what to do to stop getting so many messages but they don’t do it. Why?" | |||
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"I have never understood why a man will start being abusive after he has been turned down. It wont make her change her mind will it? Never abused anyone on this site, and never will. It's a power thing. They are trying to gain some of that back having been rejected." I agree that's exactly what it is. | |||
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"The majority of men are very polite when you turn them down. They appreciate someone taking the time to reply to them. This is the thing. Some women have experienced abuse when rejecting others not so. Pot luck who messages you I guess. People are going to continue doing what they have been doing regardless in terms of whether they politely decline or just block so I am not going to give my opinon on that. I for one do appreciate anyone who replies to me. But I am not representative of all men of course. Ok, I’ve had crude first messages and I’ve sent harsh messages back to which I think I’ll probably get some abuse back but nope, they’ll either not reply or they reply being very apologetic and we then have a chat and it is nearly always the fact they get messages deleted unread after trying being nice when messaging being suggestive, a bit rude etc and nothing works for them. Having someone actually take some time to respond to them, even if it is to tell them off at first means a lot to them." | |||
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"I always send polite messages, never crude or obscene ones. maybe i was brought up the proper way and learned to answer someone, even if I don't want to converse So you answer all the junk mail you get and every email from Nigerian Princes? This get's said a lot. It's a very cheap and robotic way of looking at it. I got a nice item of unsolicited mail once. It was a tax rebate cheque. See my point? Personally hate it when I see this analogy. It's cold. Just a reply advising posters to refer to the Faq is good enough. No offence intended." If people don't want to receive mails asking them for a fuck, don't put a profile with sexual pics on a sex site!! | |||
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"I always send polite messages, never crude or obscene ones. maybe i was brought up the proper way and learned to answer someone, even if I don't want to converse So you answer all the junk mail you get and every email from Nigerian Princes? This get's said a lot. It's a very cheap and robotic way of looking at it. I got a nice item of unsolicited mail once. It was a tax rebate cheque. See my point? Personally hate it when I see this analogy. It's cold. Just a reply advising posters to refer to the Faq is good enough. No offence intended. If people don't want to receive mails asking them for a fuck, don't put a profile with sexual pics on a sex site!!" The thing is it's not a case of people not wanting to receive mails asking them for a fuck at all - after all that's the reason the majority of us are here. It's the mails from people asking for a fuck that have obviously not read the profile or are obviously not a good match or ask for a fuck in a crude or derogatory way that people don't want to get, and shouldn't be expected to reply to, and which ARE in effect junk mail no matter which way you try and dress it up | |||
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"I'm not saying all single guys do it but some are really persistent and when you say no they still keep trying, and if I decline to meet them they turn nasty calling me a slut and free whore anyone else getting the same?? " Just don’t reply and block, Job done. | |||
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"I always send polite messages, never crude or obscene ones. maybe i was brought up the proper way and learned to answer someone, even if I don't want to converse So you answer all the junk mail you get and every email from Nigerian Princes? This get's said a lot. It's a very cheap and robotic way of looking at it. I got a nice item of unsolicited mail once. It was a tax rebate cheque. See my point? Personally hate it when I see this analogy. It's cold. Just a reply advising posters to refer to the Faq is good enough. No offence intended. If people don't want to receive mails asking them for a fuck, don't put a profile with sexual pics on a sex site!!" There is that too lol | |||
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"I always send polite messages, never crude or obscene ones. maybe i was brought up the proper way and learned to answer someone, even if I don't want to converse So you answer all the junk mail you get and every email from Nigerian Princes? This get's said a lot. It's a very cheap and robotic way of looking at it. I got a nice item of unsolicited mail once. It was a tax rebate cheque. See my point? Personally hate it when I see this analogy. It's cold. Just a reply advising posters to refer to the Faq is good enough. No offence intended. If people don't want to receive mails asking them for a fuck, don't put a profile with sexual pics on a sex site!! The thing is it's not a case of people not wanting to receive mails asking them for a fuck at all - after all that's the reason the majority of us are here. It's the mails from people asking for a fuck that have obviously not read the profile or are obviously not a good match or ask for a fuck in a crude or derogatory way that people don't want to get, and shouldn't be expected to reply to, and which ARE in effect junk mail no matter which way you try and dress it up " I stand by my post. It's a shitty analogy. | |||
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"as a single guy, if someone says they are not interested then I'm fine with that, I would rather them be honest and have the decency to say no than just delete my message and not respond at all" If someone walks up to me in the street and throws an apple at me, I'm not obligated to pay for it just because I was in their vicinity and they thought I'd be interested in an apple. Simple as that. | |||
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"I always send polite messages, never crude or obscene ones. maybe i was brought up the proper way and learned to answer someone, even if I don't want to converse So you answer all the junk mail you get and every email from Nigerian Princes?" What has junk mail got to do with it. Every person on here joined in the knowledge and hope that they'd receive mail from other people. No one signs up to receive junk mail. | |||
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"I'm not saying all single guys do it but some are really persistent and when you say no they still keep trying, and if I decline to meet them they turn nasty calling me a slut and free whore anyone else getting the same?? " Yes and I tell them I won't travel to Bristol and cant have them here. they keep on then get blocked. | |||
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"I always send polite messages, never crude or obscene ones. maybe i was brought up the proper way and learned to answer someone, even if I don't want to converse So you answer all the junk mail you get and every email from Nigerian Princes? This get's said a lot. It's a very cheap and robotic way of looking at it. I got a nice item of unsolicited mail once. It was a tax rebate cheque. See my point? Personally hate it when I see this analogy. It's cold. Just a reply advising posters to refer to the Faq is good enough. No offence intended. If people don't want to receive mails asking them for a fuck, don't put a profile with sexual pics on a sex site!! The thing is it's not a case of people not wanting to receive mails asking them for a fuck at all - after all that's the reason the majority of us are here. It's the mails from people asking for a fuck that have obviously not read the profile or are obviously not a good match or ask for a fuck in a crude or derogatory way that people don't want to get, and shouldn't be expected to reply to, and which ARE in effect junk mail no matter which way you try and dress it up I stand by my post. It's a shitty analogy." In your opinion, which you of course are entitled to, as I am mine - you're right in that some messages people on here receive are positive (of course they are, none of us would be here if they weren't) and it's not those messages which are considered junk. The ones that, in my opinion (and that of others it seems), are no different to junk mail and quite rightly treated as such, are those where the sender has clearly not read/doesn't match the profile, are crude or derogatory and similar - no-one signs up to get those kind of messages - therefore I fail to see how they are any different to unsolicited junk mail from Nigerian princes, local pizza parlours, or double glazing firms?! | |||
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"I always send polite messages, never crude or obscene ones. maybe i was brought up the proper way and learned to answer someone, even if I don't want to converse So you answer all the junk mail you get and every email from Nigerian Princes? This get's said a lot. It's a very cheap and robotic way of looking at it. I got a nice item of unsolicited mail once. It was a tax rebate cheque. See my point? Personally hate it when I see this analogy. It's cold. Just a reply advising posters to refer to the Faq is good enough. No offence intended. If people don't want to receive mails asking them for a fuck, don't put a profile with sexual pics on a sex site!! The thing is it's not a case of people not wanting to receive mails asking them for a fuck at all - after all that's the reason the majority of us are here. It's the mails from people asking for a fuck that have obviously not read the profile or are obviously not a good match or ask for a fuck in a crude or derogatory way that people don't want to get, and shouldn't be expected to reply to, and which ARE in effect junk mail no matter which way you try and dress it up I stand by my post. It's a shitty analogy. In your opinion, which you of course are entitled to, as I am mine - you're right in that some messages people on here receive are positive (of course they are, none of us would be here if they weren't) and it's not those messages which are considered junk. The ones that, in my opinion (and that of others it seems), are no different to junk mail and quite rightly treated as such, are those where the sender has clearly not read/doesn't match the profile, are crude or derogatory and similar - no-one signs up to get those kind of messages - therefore I fail to see how they are any different to unsolicited junk mail from Nigerian princes, local pizza parlours, or double glazing firms?! " We are not going to agree on this are we lol. | |||
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" We are not going to agree on this are we lol. " We can agree to disagree though - which is the joy of debates (mass or otherwise) someone doesn't always have to "win" or even agree with the other person - sometimes you can accept the other person has an opinion that differs from yours and move on Which is actually not a bad way for the disgruntled single guys on here to look at things now I think about it | |||
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"I always send polite messages, never crude or obscene ones. maybe i was brought up the proper way and learned to answer someone, even if I don't want to converse So you answer all the junk mail you get and every email from Nigerian Princes? What has junk mail got to do with it. Every person on here joined in the knowledge and hope that they'd receive mail from other people. No one signs up to receive junk mail. " My point is, and to answer earlier criticisms... Choosing to answer a message or not is a personal choice. It is easy for a single guy with a quiet inbox to say I'll reply to every message. This comes up time and time again. Women with full inboxes do not have the time to reply thanks but no thanks to every simgle message, for the myriad of reasons mentioned in the thread. Not replying isn't rude. No one deserves a reply. I use the junk mail as an example. No one moves into a house hoping to get junk mail. Maybe putting it better would be, do you write to everyone who sends you junk mail to explain that you don't like pizza, don't need double glazing fitting or that you don't need a stair lift? Junk mail is targeted on the off chance you might need what they are selling. Most people have a quick read then bin it, rather than writing to say please take me off your mailing list. To a previous poster, maybe I don't understand the nature of communication on Fab. Maybe I'd be better off keeping my opinions to myself | |||
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" We are not going to agree on this are we lol. We can agree to disagree though - which is the joy of debates (mass or otherwise) someone doesn't always have to "win" or even agree with the other person - sometimes you can accept the other person has an opinion that differs from yours and move on Which is actually not a bad way for the disgruntled single guys on here to look at things now I think about it" That I can agree with | |||
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" We are not going to agree on this are we lol. We can agree to disagree though - which is the joy of debates (mass or otherwise) someone doesn't always have to "win" or even agree with the other person - sometimes you can accept the other person has an opinion that differs from yours and move on Which is actually not a bad way for the disgruntled single guys on here to look at things now I think about it" I like this. I agree to disagree. | |||
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"I'm not saying all single guys do it but some are really persistent and when you say no they still keep trying, and if I decline to meet them they turn nasty calling me a slut and free whore anyone else getting the same?? " Yup, it's worst in person and they really won't take no for an answer and get physical... that's when they get chucked out of the club or party | |||
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"I have said this millions of times, but despite hundreds of messages from guys, we have only once had an abusive one. Our secret? We don't reply to guys we aren't interested in. I have never understood this idea that it's better to send a message saying you aren't interested. Look at it from the single guy's view. He sends a message to someone he finds attractive. He sees he has a reply and gets all excited. He reads the reply that sees (however you dress it up) that someone he finds attractive does not find him attractive. Cue upset and disappointment. I am not surprised some lash out. Much better to just ignore and most likely he will forget he messaged you. " ha true it will get lost in the sea of unanswered messages he sends | |||
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"as a single guy, if someone says they are not interested then I'm fine with that, I would rather them be honest and have the decency to say no than just delete my message and not respond at all the trouble is, women can't tell in advance if someone is going to react rudely, so a lot of the time it makes life easier.. I get that, but surely it doesn't hurt to politely decline, and if he is persistent or annoying then just be blunt and block if need be " actually it dies hurt if you reply then they can get round any subsequent filters you choose to apply, hence delete no reply. Try doing this hundreds of times a day yourself. | |||
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"anyone fancy a social in Watford tomorrow evening? " Sorry mate, busy tomorrow and Watford is too far away. Should I block you now or wait until you reply with a "OK pal no problem" message? | |||
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"Don't understand this post op, there's a block button #simples" Yeah, but why do we always have to resort the the block button?! Why can't a no suffice?! No means no, simple... | |||
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"I'm not saying all single guys do it but some are really persistent and when you say no they still keep trying, and if I decline to meet them they turn nasty calling me a slut and free whore anyone else getting the same?? " yea I get that a lot | |||
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"I'm sure its been said, say no thanks then block. Or, do what I do and block everyone so you can search for yourself. I know, novel idea isn't it??!" agree, block & search yourself, It’s tedious seeing numerous threads moaning about too many messages, guys not taking no for an answer, blah, blah, blah You’d think some judge their own self worth by the amount of messages they get | |||
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"We had to block single males in the end, got too much" I did this and blocked MF couples as I was finding the male halves just as bad. | |||
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"as a single guy, if someone says they are not interested then I'm fine with that, I would rather them be honest and have the decency to say no than just delete my message and not respond at all A delete and no response is a not interested. Check the faq's Everyone is obsessed with their sent messages. Send it and forget about it. If you get a response, bonus. Don't let the sent message box control your life. " Good advice, take heed! I usually leave a sent message for 2 weeks, and if it hasn’t been read by then, just delete it and try again. If I send a message and it is read then straight delete with no reply, I assume that profile is not interested in me, so delete the message and block that profile | |||
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"We had to block single males in the end, got too much I did this and blocked MF couples as I was finding the male halves just as bad. " For us now its mainly random friend requests from couples, no previous contact so rude & some obv fake profiles | |||
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"We had to block single males in the end, got too much I did this and blocked MF couples as I was finding the male halves just as bad. For us now its mainly random friend requests from couples, no previous contact so rude & some obv fake profiles " Same here. | |||
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"Its just a shame that a few can ruin so much for the rest, completely agree and get where single ladies and couples are coming from.. Theres absolutely no need for rudeness. As for the sent box, mine gets cleared every time i come on if im lucky enouhh to get a response it will be in my inbox! Lol. " Thing is no-one ruins anything for anyone other than themselves - if any user has realistic expectations, is genuine, respectful, considerate and willing to take their time and not get frustrated - puts some effort into both their profile and using the site, along with going to clubs/socials, then there's no reason they shouldn't find their experience of the site a fulfilling one. Those that are rude, disrespectful and have incorrectly set expectations and don't put the right effort in, are only ruining it for themselves, no-one else. | |||
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"Don't understand this post op, there's a block button #simples" Why should I have to block everyone no should mean no at the end of the day! | |||
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"Don't understand this post op, there's a block button #simples Why should I have to block everyone no should mean no at the end of the day! " Agreed. You shouldn't have to block people if people had some decency. I've had replies saying not interested. I always reply to say thank you for letting me know. Sometimes i dont get the chance as they instantly block you. Also you may block that person now but then things may change whereby that person is now an option, which happened to me recently So i probably wouldn't recommend blocking everyone instantly just because that person isn't right for you at this moment | |||
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"I'm not saying all single guys do it but some are really persistent and when you say no they still keep trying, and if I decline to meet them they turn nasty calling me a slut and free whore anyone else getting the same?? " As a single guy i just want to say i think that is terrible and they should be banned from the site. But from experience, there are a lot af nasty women on here, don't think a woman has ever just said no thanks to me, they tend to send a nasty message expressing how ugly and so on you are and how you have no chance with them so not just the guys being nasty. A lot of unpleasent people on here ruining the experience for everyone. I tend to just block people that are not interested so i dont accidentally message them again in the future after sending them a polite message thanking for there honest reply and wishing them all the best. Nasty people dont belong here. | |||
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"I'm not saying all single guys do it but some are really persistent and when you say no they still keep trying, and if I decline to meet them they turn nasty calling me a slut and free whore anyone else getting the same?? " Just block and delete OP, the egotistical maniacs can’t handle rejection. | |||
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"I'm not saying all single guys do it but some are really persistent and when you say no they still keep trying, and if I decline to meet them they turn nasty calling me a slut and free whore anyone else getting the same?? As a single guy i just want to say i think that is terrible and they should be banned from the site. But from experience, there are a lot af nasty women on here, don't think a woman has ever just said no thanks to me, they tend to send a nasty message expressing how ugly and so on you are and how you have no chance with them so not just the guys being nasty. A lot of unpleasent people on here ruining the experience for everyone. I tend to just block people that are not interested so i dont accidentally message them again in the future after sending them a polite message thanking for there honest reply and wishing them all the best. Nasty people dont belong here." Absolutely right here, it's not gender specific. | |||
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"I'm not saying all single guys do it but some are really persistent and when you say no they still keep trying, and if I decline to meet them they turn nasty calling me a slut and free whore anyone else getting the same?? " Trying using your filters. If it's still an occurrence then simply block or report the individual. | |||
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"I'm not saying all single guys do it but some are really persistent and when you say no they still keep trying, and if I decline to meet them they turn nasty calling me a slut and free whore anyone else getting the same?? Trying using your filters. If it's still an occurrence then simply block or report the individual. " How will filters stop the abusive guys? I don’t think it’s dependant on age, if they have pics, are new, If they are verified or whether they are a smite supporter. Anyone can be abusive. | |||
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"I'm not saying all single guys do it but some are really persistent and when you say no they still keep trying, and if I decline to meet them they turn nasty calling me a slut and free whore anyone else getting the same?? Trying using your filters. If it's still an occurrence then simply block or report the individual. How will filters stop the abusive guys? I don’t think it’s dependant on age, if they have pics, are new, If they are verified or whether they are a smite supporter. Anyone can be abusive." So then block everyone and trawl through the searches? | |||
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"Don't understand this post op, there's a block button #simples Why should I have to block everyone no should mean no at the end of the day! Agreed. You shouldn't have to block people if people had some decency. I've had replies saying not interested. I always reply to say thank you for letting me know. Sometimes i dont get the chance as they instantly block you. Also you may block that person now but then things may change whereby that person is now an option, which happened to me recently So i probably wouldn't recommend blocking everyone instantly just because that person isn't right for you at this moment " I’m not sure it’s a good move to thank someone for replying. We try to reply to a most of our nice messages, but I do get put off knowing that after we’ve politely declined, we’ll probably be getting one more message. We’d feel much more comfortable if it were just left after we’ve said no. Mrs | |||
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"I'm not saying all single guys do it but some are really persistent and when you say no they still keep trying, and if I decline to meet them they turn nasty calling me a slut and free whore anyone else getting the same?? " I don't get it at all from the blokes who contact me wanting fun, even though my profile says I'm straight. Normally I din't even read the mail, but occasionally I do and reply that I'm not interested, ta. They're normally very polite about it and don't take offence. However many ladies I have met with have experienced this problem with "those" guys and I can only assume that the difference is because whilst gay or bi guys know it's nothing personal about them my turning them down (they could be a cover star on gay times, but I'm just not interested in blokes) men who you turn down know it's something about them you're not attracted to, so whilst the vast majority can take that on the chin a number will have fragile egos and suddenly turn nasty. If they do this then ignore, delete and block. Think of them as an annoying small demented dog that follows you, nipping at your heels with it's teeth till you go through a gate and shove it firmly back onto the other side before closing the gate between you and carrying on with your life... | |||
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"I always send polite messages, never crude or obscene ones. maybe i was brought up the proper way and learned to answer someone, even if I don't want to converse So you answer all the junk mail you get and every email from Nigerian Princes? .....its a swinging site, if the profile says they are looking to meet, then expect messages. if your not interested then all you have to do is say so. most people will accept that. if they don't then you have the option to block" This old chestnut again. Expect messages, yes. Have to answer them, no. Enough of this "I was brought up with manners..." bollocks. You were brought up in the 70s and 80s to converse with people in a real life situation where you tend to meet people in equal amounts based on gender, with the exception of certain workplaces obviously. You weren't brought up primarily to converse on a futuristic messageboard in decades to come for people seeking sex with others, where men outnubered men 20 to 1! The goalposts are moved massively and therefore what constitutes 'good manners' are drastically different. This manners bullshit rears it's head time and time again and I know full well that the logic I am about to impart won't stop someone else who plainly doesn't get it at all bleating about "manners" and feeling hard done by. Now consider this; I usually get between say 6 and 20 messages a day, averaging about a dozen perhaps, usually dependent on who I'm chatting to and how often I'm on site. Now let's say that women on here outnumber men 20 to 1, which probably isn't a bad estimate. One's immediate thought is that the average woman would therefore receive around 240 in an average day, yet even this figure can be skewed upwards due to the number of men who "carpet bomb" every single woman or couple within a certain radius, say 30 miles or so, with the same email, and it's usually a shit one too. 400 to 500 daily probably isn't too wide of the mark in cases. Now let's say it takes a woman a minute on average to open the average mail, digest it's contents then quickly reply. Some will take longer, such as longer mails, those she's chatting with, etc. Some will be shorter, such as a mail from 'Cuntbreeder Beast' that simply says "Mmmm,u want cum in pusy?Lv 2 mk u preggo bbe" which goes straight in the bin where it belongs. But a minute is probably a fair estimation for an average. Now let's say even 150 of those mails are from guys that don't float her boat, but aren't being blatently offensive, at least in their first message. You're therefore asking her to spend 150 minutes or 2 and a half hours each day replying "Thanks but I don't think we're suitable. Good luck anyway! " to the plethora of men she will never meet anyway. Given that this is the 21st century and most women now either have possibly 16 hours a day minimum taken up by work, studies or childcare added to a need to sleep and you think that it is perfectly reasonable, in fact downright rude of her not to give up about a third of her free time in life in the gallant pursuit of replying "Thanks, but no thanks" hundreds of times on a fucking website, her eyes glued to the screen like a zombie. I would hope that this expectation of yours is borne out of being naive or unthinking with regards to sites like this and your inability to put yourself in someone else's shoes. Because the alternative is that you still think that "manners" demanding such a huge chunk of a person's time is highly acceptable and I would reason that you Sir are the one with bad manners to expect such a thing. Highly bad manners in fact, which you were supposedly raised not to have. | |||
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"I always send polite messages, never crude or obscene ones. maybe i was brought up the proper way and learned to answer someone, even if I don't want to converse So you answer all the junk mail you get and every email from Nigerian Princes? .....its a swinging site, if the profile says they are looking to meet, then expect messages. if your not interested then all you have to do is say so. most people will accept that. if they don't then you have the option to block This old chestnut again. Expect messages, yes. Have to answer them, no. Enough of this "I was brought up with manners..." bollocks. You were brought up in the 70s and 80s to converse with people in a real life situation where you tend to meet people in equal amounts based on gender, with the exception of certain workplaces obviously. You weren't brought up primarily to converse on a futuristic messageboard in decades to come for people seeking sex with others, where men outnubered men 20 to 1! The goalposts are moved massively and therefore what constitutes 'good manners' are drastically different. This manners bullshit rears it's head time and time again and I know full well that the logic I am about to impart won't stop someone else who plainly doesn't get it at all bleating about "manners" and feeling hard done by. Now consider this; I usually get between say 6 and 20 messages a day, averaging about a dozen perhaps, usually dependent on who I'm chatting to and how often I'm on site. Now let's say that women on here outnumber men 20 to 1, which probably isn't a bad estimate. One's immediate thought is that the average woman would therefore receive around 240 in an average day, yet even this figure can be skewed upwards due to the number of men who "carpet bomb" every single woman or couple within a certain radius, say 30 miles or so, with the same email, and it's usually a shit one too. 400 to 500 daily probably isn't too wide of the mark in cases. Now let's say it takes a woman a minute on average to open the average mail, digest it's contents then quickly reply. Some will take longer, such as longer mails, those she's chatting with, etc. Some will be shorter, such as a mail from 'Cuntbreeder Beast' that simply says "Mmmm,u want cum in pusy?Lv 2 mk u preggo bbe" which goes straight in the bin where it belongs. But a minute is probably a fair estimation for an average. Now let's say even 150 of those mails are from guys that don't float her boat, but aren't being blatently offensive, at least in their first message. You're therefore asking her to spend 150 minutes or 2 and a half hours each day replying "Thanks but I don't think we're suitable. Good luck anyway! " to the plethora of men she will never meet anyway. Given that this is the 21st century and most women now either have possibly 16 hours a day minimum taken up by work, studies or childcare added to a need to sleep and you think that it is perfectly reasonable, in fact downright rude of her not to give up about a third of her free time in life in the gallant pursuit of replying "Thanks, but no thanks" hundreds of times on a fucking website, her eyes glued to the screen like a zombie. I would hope that this expectation of yours is borne out of being naive or unthinking with regards to sites like this and your inability to put yourself in someone else's shoes. Because the alternative is that you still think that "manners" demanding such a huge chunk of a person's time is highly acceptable and I would reason that you Sir are the one with bad manners to expect such a thing. Highly bad manners in fact, which you were supposedly raised not to have." TLDR | |||
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"I always send polite messages, never crude or obscene ones. maybe i was brought up the proper way and learned to answer someone, even if I don't want to converse So you answer all the junk mail you get and every email from Nigerian Princes? .....its a swinging site, if the profile says they are looking to meet, then expect messages. if your not interested then all you have to do is say so. most people will accept that. if they don't then you have the option to block This old chestnut again. Expect messages, yes. Have to answer them, no. Enough of this "I was brought up with manners..." bollocks. You were brought up in the 70s and 80s to converse with people in a real life situation where you tend to meet people in equal amounts based on gender, with the exception of certain workplaces obviously. You weren't brought up primarily to converse on a futuristic messageboard in decades to come for people seeking sex with others, where men outnubered men 20 to 1! The goalposts are moved massively and therefore what constitutes 'good manners' are drastically different. This manners bullshit rears it's head time and time again and I know full well that the logic I am about to impart won't stop someone else who plainly doesn't get it at all bleating about "manners" and feeling hard done by. Now consider this; I usually get between say 6 and 20 messages a day, averaging about a dozen perhaps, usually dependent on who I'm chatting to and how often I'm on site. Now let's say that women on here outnumber men 20 to 1, which probably isn't a bad estimate. One's immediate thought is that the average woman would therefore receive around 240 in an average day, yet even this figure can be skewed upwards due to the number of men who "carpet bomb" every single woman or couple within a certain radius, say 30 miles or so, with the same email, and it's usually a shit one too. 400 to 500 daily probably isn't too wide of the mark in cases. Now let's say it takes a woman a minute on average to open the average mail, digest it's contents then quickly reply. Some will take longer, such as longer mails, those she's chatting with, etc. Some will be shorter, such as a mail from 'Cuntbreeder Beast' that simply says "Mmmm,u want cum in pusy?Lv 2 mk u preggo bbe" which goes straight in the bin where it belongs. But a minute is probably a fair estimation for an average. Now let's say even 150 of those mails are from guys that don't float her boat, but aren't being blatently offensive, at least in their first message. You're therefore asking her to spend 150 minutes or 2 and a half hours each day replying "Thanks but I don't think we're suitable. Good luck anyway! " to the plethora of men she will never meet anyway. Given that this is the 21st century and most women now either have possibly 16 hours a day minimum taken up by work, studies or childcare added to a need to sleep and you think that it is perfectly reasonable, in fact downright rude of her not to give up about a third of her free time in life in the gallant pursuit of replying "Thanks, but no thanks" hundreds of times on a fucking website, her eyes glued to the screen like a zombie. I would hope that this expectation of yours is borne out of being naive or unthinking with regards to sites like this and your inability to put yourself in someone else's shoes. Because the alternative is that you still think that "manners" demanding such a huge chunk of a person's time is highly acceptable and I would reason that you Sir are the one with bad manners to expect such a thing. Highly bad manners in fact, which you were supposedly raised not to have." Wow bloody awesome post, well done you for saying it how it really is for us ladies xxxx | |||
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"I always send polite messages, never crude or obscene ones. maybe i was brought up the proper way and learned to answer someone, even if I don't want to converse So you answer all the junk mail you get and every email from Nigerian Princes? .....its a swinging site, if the profile says they are looking to meet, then expect messages. if your not interested then all you have to do is say so. most people will accept that. if they don't then you have the option to block This old chestnut again. Expect messages, yes. Have to answer them, no. Enough of this "I was brought up with manners..." bollocks. You were brought up in the 70s and 80s to converse with people in a real life situation where you tend to meet people in equal amounts based on gender, with the exception of certain workplaces obviously. You weren't brought up primarily to converse on a futuristic messageboard in decades to come for people seeking sex with others, where men outnubered men 20 to 1! The goalposts are moved massively and therefore what constitutes 'good manners' are drastically different. This manners bullshit rears it's head time and time again and I know full well that the logic I am about to impart won't stop someone else who plainly doesn't get it at all bleating about "manners" and feeling hard done by. Now consider this; I usually get between say 6 and 20 messages a day, averaging about a dozen perhaps, usually dependent on who I'm chatting to and how often I'm on site. Now let's say that women on here outnumber men 20 to 1, which probably isn't a bad estimate. One's immediate thought is that the average woman would therefore receive around 240 in an average day, yet even this figure can be skewed upwards due to the number of men who "carpet bomb" every single woman or couple within a certain radius, say 30 miles or so, with the same email, and it's usually a shit one too. 400 to 500 daily probably isn't too wide of the mark in cases. Now let's say it takes a woman a minute on average to open the average mail, digest it's contents then quickly reply. Some will take longer, such as longer mails, those she's chatting with, etc. Some will be shorter, such as a mail from 'Cuntbreeder Beast' that simply says "Mmmm,u want cum in pusy?Lv 2 mk u preggo bbe" which goes straight in the bin where it belongs. But a minute is probably a fair estimation for an average. Now let's say even 150 of those mails are from guys that don't float her boat, but aren't being blatently offensive, at least in their first message. You're therefore asking her to spend 150 minutes or 2 and a half hours each day replying "Thanks but I don't think we're suitable. Good luck anyway! " to the plethora of men she will never meet anyway. Given that this is the 21st century and most women now either have possibly 16 hours a day minimum taken up by work, studies or childcare added to a need to sleep and you think that it is perfectly reasonable, in fact downright rude of her not to give up about a third of her free time in life in the gallant pursuit of replying "Thanks, but no thanks" hundreds of times on a fucking website, her eyes glued to the screen like a zombie. I would hope that this expectation of yours is borne out of being naive or unthinking with regards to sites like this and your inability to put yourself in someone else's shoes. Because the alternative is that you still think that "manners" demanding such a huge chunk of a person's time is highly acceptable and I would reason that you Sir are the one with bad manners to expect such a thing. Highly bad manners in fact, which you were supposedly raised not to have." Well worth the read. I salute you for your well written words sir | |||
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"Aw, thank you guys, I'm feeling the love! Especially as I've noticed a few little word mistakes in my somewhat lengthy post where the ratios are concerned.. But the general overview is the same and I'm glad you got it! Personally I'm very happy being a single male on Fab and personally I think it's the best demograph to be. My mailbox doesn't take up too much of my time, which as a father and and someone who does long work hours when away from home is quite favourable! And I'm having an absolute whale of a time on here, most people are hugely friendly and I've no complaints whatsoever about the amount and quality of delectable shenanigans I indulge in with members of the fairer sex that appeal to me, quite the opposite in fact! There's not a trace of the dreaded 'white knight' in my post as in all honesty I have no need of such a silly tits up strategy, it's just to be honest if I were a single lady on here I think I'd go nuts with how this site would work for me and I salute you for having the strength of will for putting up with these unfortunately unavoidable time-consuming "side-effects." Women of fortitude indeed! And to think that a lot of single guys really believe they have it harder on here? It's a paradise as far as I see it and ladies like yourselves invariably make it so. " Nicely put in perspective. Good man. | |||
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"I always send polite messages, never crude or obscene ones. maybe i was brought up the proper way and learned to answer someone, even if I don't want to converse I will 99% of the time message someone back with a polite thanks for the interest but I do not wish to meet with you and or your partner so it's not like I completely ignore people and I get reply like "why are you on fab if your not willing to meet people" or "your fake then if you don't meet me" it's very rarely a nice response or if it is they are like "but just can show you a good time if you just give me one meet" " We aren’t interested in meeting single men, and we always reply politely saying thanks, but no thanks. But we’ve had a few messages now on exactly the same lines as above, so now we just ignore and block. It’s the nasty few who spoil it for the nice many. | |||
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"Aw, thank you guys, I'm feeling the love! Especially as I've noticed a few little word mistakes in my somewhat lengthy post where the ratios are concerned.. But the general overview is the same and I'm glad you got it! Personally I'm very happy being a single male on Fab and personally I think it's the best demograph to be. My mailbox doesn't take up too much of my time, which as a father and and someone who does long work hours when away from home is quite favourable! And I'm having an absolute whale of a time on here, most people are hugely friendly and I've no complaints whatsoever about the amount and quality of delectable shenanigans I indulge in with members of the fairer sex that appeal to me, quite the opposite in fact! There's not a trace of the dreaded 'white knight' in my post as in all honesty I have no need of such a silly tits up strategy, it's just to be honest if I were a single lady on here I think I'd go nuts with how this site would work for me and I salute you for having the strength of will for putting up with these unfortunately unavoidable time-consuming "side-effects." Women of fortitude indeed! And to think that a lot of single guys really believe they have it harder on here? It's a paradise as far as I see it and ladies like yourselves invariably make it so. " You are just repeating what's been saud hundreds of times though lol | |||
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"I'm not saying all single guys do it but some are really persistent and when you say no they still keep trying, and if I decline to meet them they turn nasty calling me a slut and free whore anyone else getting the same?? " Quite frequent on here. Block and move on. Good ones are out there amongst the idiots. | |||
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"I'm not saying all single guys do it but some are really persistent and when you say no they still keep trying, and if I decline to meet them they turn nasty calling me a slut and free whore anyone else getting the same?? " I used to get this as well, so now like others have said I say thanks but no thanks and then block them | |||
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"Whilst I have my doubts about the 'hundreds' I'd be naive to think it probably hasn't been said many a time here in it's entirety, because these threads are huge in number and to most users who've been on site long enough it's the glaringly honest truth." I have told myself a million times not to exagerate | |||
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"Its just a shame that a few can ruin so much for the rest, completely agree and get where single ladies and couples are coming from.. Theres absolutely no need for rudeness. As for the sent box, mine gets cleared every time i come on if im lucky enouhh to get a response it will be in my inbox! Lol. Thing is no-one ruins anything for anyone other than themselves - if any user has realistic expectations, is genuine, respectful, considerate and willing to take their time and not get frustrated - puts some effort into both their profile and using the site, along with going to clubs/socials, then there's no reason they shouldn't find their experience of the site a fulfilling one. Those that are rude, disrespectful and have incorrectly set expectations and don't put the right effort in, are only ruining it for themselves, no-one else. " Completely get what you mean, you can only ruin it for yourselves, if your an idiot, well then your an idiot! a lot of the women and couples i know there expectations of men have dropped on here due to things like the rudeness. Its perfectly fine to not respond if you have a hundred messages, even if you have just one message. So when i say ruin it for others im talking more about what people expect to hear from men in general as i defiantly see a lot more negative talk about single guys then positive in the forums and gerneral chat. Like you said too many come here with unrealistic expectations. Just have a laugh and a good time. | |||
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"We politely declined a guy yesterday he came back with, fuck off , you fat old cunts , fuck off ! Classy guy , bigb was the profile I think. " A bullet well dodged | |||
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"I'm sure its been said, say no thanks then block. Or, do what I do and block everyone so you can search for yourself. I know, novel idea isn't it??! agree, block & search yourself, It’s tedious seeing numerous threads moaning about too many messages, guys not taking no for an answer, blah, blah, blah You’d think some judge their own self worth by the amount of messages they get " | |||
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"I don’t mind them getting abusive, I don’t block deliberately so I can see what type of guy they are. If they won’t take no for an answer that’s a red flag, you’re better to find out now they won’t accept no than when you meet them and they decide you’re getting it regardless of what you say and hurt you. If they get abusive again you know they’re an awful person. Sometimes I even like to test the guys I like to see what their next message, if any, says. If I’m happy I’ll get back to them at a later date. Everyone can be nice when things are going their way, you see their real personality when you reject them " Very much this! You make a brilliant point. | |||
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"I always send polite messages, never crude or obscene ones. maybe i was brought up the proper way and learned to answer someone, even if I don't want to converse So you answer all the junk mail you get and every email from Nigerian Princes? .....its a swinging site, if the profile says they are looking to meet, then expect messages. if your not interested then all you have to do is say so. most people will accept that. if they don't then you have the option to block This old chestnut again. Expect messages, yes. Have to answer them, no. Enough of this "I was brought up with manners..." bollocks. You were brought up in the 70s and 80s to converse with people in a real life situation where you tend to meet people in equal amounts based on gender, with the exception of certain workplaces obviously. You weren't brought up primarily to converse on a futuristic messageboard in decades to come for people seeking sex with others, where men outnubered men 20 to 1! The goalposts are moved massively and therefore what constitutes 'good manners' are drastically different. This manners bullshit rears it's head time and time again and I know full well that the logic I am about to impart won't stop someone else who plainly doesn't get it at all bleating about "manners" and feeling hard done by. Now consider this; I usually get between say 6 and 20 messages a day, averaging about a dozen perhaps, usually dependent on who I'm chatting to and how often I'm on site. Now let's say that women on here outnumber men 20 to 1, which probably isn't a bad estimate. One's immediate thought is that the average woman would therefore receive around 240 in an average day, yet even this figure can be skewed upwards due to the number of men who "carpet bomb" every single woman or couple within a certain radius, say 30 miles or so, with the same email, and it's usually a shit one too. 400 to 500 daily probably isn't too wide of the mark in cases. Now let's say it takes a woman a minute on average to open the average mail, digest it's contents then quickly reply. Some will take longer, such as longer mails, those she's chatting with, etc. Some will be shorter, such as a mail from 'Cuntbreeder Beast' that simply says "Mmmm,u want cum in pusy?Lv 2 mk u preggo bbe" which goes straight in the bin where it belongs. But a minute is probably a fair estimation for an average. Now let's say even 150 of those mails are from guys that don't float her boat, but aren't being blatently offensive, at least in their first message. You're therefore asking her to spend 150 minutes or 2 and a half hours each day replying "Thanks but I don't think we're suitable. Good luck anyway! " to the plethora of men she will never meet anyway. Given that this is the 21st century and most women now either have possibly 16 hours a day minimum taken up by work, studies or childcare added to a need to sleep and you think that it is perfectly reasonable, in fact downright rude of her not to give up about a third of her free time in life in the gallant pursuit of replying "Thanks, but no thanks" hundreds of times on a fucking website, her eyes glued to the screen like a zombie. I would hope that this expectation of yours is borne out of being naive or unthinking with regards to sites like this and your inability to put yourself in someone else's shoes. Because the alternative is that you still think that "manners" demanding such a huge chunk of a person's time is highly acceptable and I would reason that you Sir are the one with bad manners to expect such a thing. Highly bad manners in fact, which you were supposedly raised not to have." Probably the best post I’ve ever read on the forums Mrs | |||
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"as a single guy, if someone says they are not interested then I'm fine with that, I would rather them be honest and have the decency to say no than just delete my message and not respond at all" I get that too or your not my type what type do they think I am cos I don't know lol | |||
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"as a single guy, if someone says they are not interested then I'm fine with that, I would rather them be honest and have the decency to say no than just delete my message and not respond at all I get that too or your not my type what type do they think I am cos I don't know lol" They are not thinking you are any particular type, they just know you are not their type. But if women aren’t allowed to ignore and delete, and aren’t allowed to say ‘you’re not my type’, what is an acceptable way of rejecting a man they don’t wish to pursue the possibility of having sex with? Mrs | |||
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"as a single guy, if someone says they are not interested then I'm fine with that, I would rather them be honest and have the decency to say no than just delete my message and not respond at all I get that too or your not my type what type do they think I am cos I don't know lol They are not thinking you are any particular type, they just know you are not their type. But if women aren’t allowed to ignore and delete, and aren’t allowed to say ‘you’re not my type’, what is an acceptable way of rejecting a man they don’t wish to pursue the possibility of having sex with? Mrs" | |||
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