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Is chivalry dead?
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"Is chivalry dead in modern society? in younger generations yeah definitely "
I think it's certainly diminishing, you could blame it partially on electronic devices and a lack of face to face interaction....  |
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Interesting i think perhaps it's perceived as condesending and sexist and what was once chivalry should be politness for all. So in a modern world men should be polite and kind to all genders and treat them with equity.. I think I'd like to be defined as polite and kind over chivalrous. |
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"Is chivalry dead in modern society?"
At work with general public I’d say no we do our best to that extra mile in general as well if someone has fallen or something is wrong with them members of public rush to give aid
Opening a door for someone or helping with a buggy up down the stairs makes someone day
A smile and good deed  |
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I for one like to be chivalrous. It means opening doors, pulling out chairs and genuinely having a kind and generous demeanour, however I think the rise of social media and femi-nazi-s has made a lot of gents think twice before offering help.
Not me personally, I’d still do it until asked not to |
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By *ibLeiMan 7 weeks ago
Manchester |
"Is chivalry dead in modern society? in younger generations yeah definitely
I think it's certainly diminishing, you could blame it partially on electronic devices and a lack of face to face interaction.... "
Or on the fact that chivalry is rooted in the idea that it is good and noble from men to protect and serve women—because the latter group was perceived as being “weaker”. An assumption largely dead in western countries. |
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It’s just good manners and politeness isn’t it?
Holding door open for anyone regardless of genders. Arrive at queue at same time as someone else let the other person go first.
Just generally having an awareness of things going on around you and being courteous to others.
But unfortunately these acts of kindness and manners go unthanked by many no matter gender or age. |
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No .. why would it be ? .. if people think it is then maybe they just aren't rubbing shoulders with mannerly people. All my friends are very mannerly and polite and display old school chivalry socially all the time. |
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Chivalry in the literal meaning of the word died long ago
Manners and polite interaction between humans still exists. If it makes someone's life easier hold the door foe them, doesn't matter who, how old or what gender.
In short if you can help someone, do. |
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"Chivalry in the literal meaning of the word died long ago
Manners and polite interaction between humans still exists. If it makes someone's life easier hold the door foe them, doesn't matter who, how old or what gender.
In short if you can help someone, do. "
Agreed. If you can help someone do so. It’s amazing how one small gesture, act of kindness can have a positive effect on another person. |
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I always thought it had died if I'm honest going by my past relationships BUT my relationship now tells me it's there and big time , always opens the door and waits for me to go in 1st
Going up stairs I'm always first
He walks on the roadside to me
Many things he does I've never experienced before
I think with the way things are these days I do believe many people are afraid to be like that because they get called out ect |
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"with older guys, like myself, no it's not, but also thing general manners and common courtesy is massively in decline "
I would say age isn’t a factor.
I experience as much rudeness from older people as I do from younger.
I am the kind of person that holds doors open, but if people walk through without acknowledging my act of kindness am also the kind of person to start saying “thank you” very loudly to myself.
Manners cost absolutely nothing. |
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By *33ukMan 7 weeks ago
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I dont believe it's a thing these days. Friendly interactions between people agree, I'll hold a door open for someone but I won't go out my way to open it for someone unless perhaps they visually look unable to deal with a situation they're presented with then I'd use initiative to help a fellow human out....now I'm not opening door for gf, I won't pull their chair out for them etc. Think that's most people these days. |
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The origins of chivalry are interesting. Somewhere around in medieval tomes concerns were raised about the behaviour of knights and aristocrats so a system if 'chivalrous' behaviour was introduced to regulate it. |
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"I always thought it had died if I'm honest going by my past relationships BUT my relationship now tells me it's there and big time , always opens the door and waits for me to go in 1st
Going up stairs I'm always first
He walks on the roadside to me
Many things he does I've never experienced before
I think with the way things are these days I do believe many people are afraid to be like that because they get called out ect "
How it should be once a gent always a gent |
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To me it means a man is polite, respectful and kind towards a woman. Maybe holding her coat out for her to put on, pulling her chair out, generous in gifts. Things like that.I may be wrong but that is how I see it. |
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By *lan157Man 7 weeks ago
a village near Haywards Heath in East Sussex |
"What does chivalry and 'a gentleman' mean to people?"
It's unchanged for me from the advice given to me when I was a boy that you behaved in a way that respected women and acted accordingly . I still do all the things I was taught and will continue to do so and therefore it won't die until I am dead . I have come across some women who dislike having a car door opened for them, for example, and complained . I take note and won't do it again for them. Plenty of others will be in favour. |
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Yep, and females in society has killed it over the last 7 years with the rise of ultra feminism and ‘toxic masculinity’ being thrown about all the time, so only have ourselves to blame. It’s a wonder guys want to do much for us tbh. |
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By (user no longer on site) 7 weeks ago
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I think as others have said, possibly by the younger generation and certainly diminishing.
As the traditons, boundaries & barriers etc are blurred/eroded for the roles of men and women, this is one of the prices to pay and in my opinion is to be expected.
You can't have it both ways. |
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"Is chivalry dead in modern society?"
Not at all, just this morning I sallied forth on my noble steed with my faithful squire Sancho at my side, and taught a load of windmills a lesson they jolly well won't forget in a hurry. |
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Opening doors, I generally do that for anyone but put in special effort for older people and anyone carrying bags etc…
Giving up my seat for some woman on the bus/train, probably not but would for the older generation, pregnant lady or anyone if they look like they need it over me.
I think dating is more awkward especially at my middle age, do we pay for everything or go dutch ? I do walk a lady back to her car or offer to drive her home or to whatever venue.
It will always come down to the individual lady and I have been complimented on being a gentleman. However at times I do feel like I’m imposing a previous generations traditions as some of the women want to feel more empowered during the date. So they will want to pay or certainly be more in control of the date.
But could just be me.  |
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"It’s just good manners and politeness isn’t it?
Holding door open for anyone regardless of genders. Arrive at queue at same time as someone else let the other person go first.
Just generally having an awareness of things going on around you and being courteous to others.
But unfortunately these acts of kindness and manners go unthanked by many no matter gender or age."
I concur with this |
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Is it dead? Whatever it is it's been adapted by women at best and euthanised by them at worst.
Modern manners and acts of kindness are 'gender agnostic'. If I'm chivalrous then it's instinctive for me. I'm not looking to ingratiate a particular gender. |
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Likely yes but i was raised to be a gent and be courteous and helpful so I will still do things like hold doors open but not just for women, I hold it open for anyone immediately there or struggling.
Same with letting cars out of awkward or busy junctions (if safe to do so), not blocking a junction in heavy traffic, pulling into lane 2 if safe if car entering from a slip road, genenerally helping everyone get along because I like to think people on then whole appreciate it and will do the same and pass on that helpful energy to others. I'm not naive though and know that there are increasing numbers of truly selfish people out there who don't give a shit about others because middle lane drivers are increasing. |
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"If hubby didn't open doors for me, help with my coat, put me first when it's kind to do so, he'd better get used to being celibate  "
This comes across as entitlement, which never seems to die in society, hopefully chivalry isn’t either. I see it often in my day to day life but less so in relationships if that makes sense. |
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I always find it fascinating that people think chivalry is limited to a man opening a door for a woman. At its core, chivalry is about championing the cause of those who you consider to be lower down the ladder than you as well as serving your higher master. You use your position of privilege to lift up those you consider to be beneath you. It's also about holding yourself to a higher standard at all times.
Traditionally, women's role in chivalry was to recognise when the knight has displayed the virtues of the chivalric codes and to praise and celebrate him. It was very much a two way active relationship.
Modern chivalry isn't restricted by gender either. If you're a woman in a position of authority or privilege then you're just as bound by the code as men if you want chivalry to survive. Just as men are required to acknowledge and praise you for doing so. |
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"I always find it fascinating that people think chivalry is limited to a man opening a door for a woman. At its core, chivalry is about championing the cause of those who you consider to be lower down the ladder than you as well as serving your higher master. You use your position of privilege to lift up those you consider to be beneath you. It's also about holding yourself to a higher standard at all times.
Traditionally, women's role in chivalry was to recognise when the knight has displayed the virtues of the chivalric codes and to praise and celebrate him. It was very much a two way active relationship.
Modern chivalry isn't restricted by gender either. If you're a woman in a position of authority or privilege then you're just as bound by the code as men if you want chivalry to survive. Just as men are required to acknowledge and praise you for doing so."
If that’s the case then it’s definitely dead |
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"I always find it fascinating that people think chivalry is limited to a man opening a door for a woman. At its core, chivalry is about championing the cause of those who you consider to be lower down the ladder than you as well as serving your higher master. You use your position of privilege to lift up those you consider to be beneath you. It's also about holding yourself to a higher standard at all times.
Traditionally, women's role in chivalry was to recognise when the knight has displayed the virtues of the chivalric codes and to praise and celebrate him. It was very much a two way active relationship.
Modern chivalry isn't restricted by gender either. If you're a woman in a position of authority or privilege then you're just as bound by the code as men if you want chivalry to survive. Just as men are required to acknowledge and praise you for doing so."
Interesting 🤔 |
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