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Weirded out by single men at a swingers' club (as a single man myself)

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By *orporatejock32 OP   Man 1 day ago

Harrow

I've been involved with swingers for the past 4 years and generally, I've enjoyed the company of the few people I've met through my own hobbies or through prior University studies.

I left a long-term non-monogamous relationship recently (through which I attended Le Boudoir years ago) as the relationship itself had become fairly toxic and on suggestion of a friend who's actively in the scene, I thought to see what a social was like at a swinger's club in a town completely different to mine (attending as a single man). I had made the effort of contacting a few profiles who had listed their intention to be attending just so I could at least strike a few conversations but it was my general intent to look around, see what the venue was like and meet people.

Shortly after entering and looking around, it became clear there were way too many single men loitering around. I thought only 6-8 single men would be there as I'd assumed there would be a limit... there was not! More like 35-45 single men.

I had struck conversations with two couples who I introduced myself to and immediately, a stream of single men had shown up to be a part of the conversation. I don't mind a few people to have a chat with but when there's 6 or 7 random men who have no interest in what you say and are trying to get to the woman in the couple to attract her interest, that's very odd behaviour and I shortly decided to leave since it all seemed really weird.

I can see now why the "wanking dead" is a problem at clubs. I excused myself from the venue and called it an early night because it was really off-putting to see so many random individuals just standing around the cinema or couples' only sections. I'd go to the bar, talk to a couple or a woman there and introduce myself but these men would just hang around. In the cinema specifically, they'd get up, walk towards a couple who are enjoying themselves and immediately drop their trousers holding their cocks... rather odd I must say.

It's safe to say I won't be attending a club as a single man ever again: I would like to return with a woman (either as a couple or with a friend) to a couples' only night but I really was put off by the single men in the club, and I'm saying that as a single man myself.

Sorry to any single man who may be offended - I couldn't believe how bad it was and I can see now why couples' only nights are a thing. Sucks really, but it is what it is!

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By *hesubtlegentMan 1 day ago

surrey

100% agree with you. It’s cringing to watch and I do not want to be labelled as one of the wanking dead so I won’t go by myself anymore. There are so many disrespectful men at clubs. I’ve seen myself, men dropping their trousers and expecting the women playing to automatically latch onto their cock. The self entitlement is astonishing. It’s no wonder clubs charge extortionate amounts of money to enter for single men. There does need to be limit set for men’s attendance otherwise it’s a giant cock fest.

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By *orporatejock32 OP   Man 1 day ago

Harrow

Sorry am new to this forum feature - can't edit the original post.

Wanted to add to the above:

Why can't clubs restrict the number of single men? Is it a financial reason as to charge single men a high price and permit a lot of them?

My research indicates this is the case but is this to suggest that few couples attend these types of venues in the first place or are simply price sensitive to tickets in the first place? I can understand few single women attend as they are known to be "unicorns" in this lifestyle but would be keen to hear more experienced opinions.

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By *lasphemousGirlWoman 1 day ago

Cambs

Your description of how it was is accurate from my brief attempt at going to clubs (a very long time ago)

I personally dislike the entire atmosphere and the attitude some (*not all, but too many) single men towards solo women or women in general.. makes my skin crawl... it's predatory not voyeuristic...

Each club is different though so it depends on the one you go too,

Specific events at clubs are probably a better bet for a solo gents but the wanking dead are always going to be there though...

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By *rumpyandsexyCouple 1 day ago

mansfield

When me and sher played in the cinema at a club we did get about 7 men come near and start wanking which it's a swingers club so you expect it.

But I found it strange not one of them spoke to us.

One did try to feel sher but he backed off when told

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By *rsKOTCTWoman 1 day ago

Leeds

This is why I don't do clubs unless it's ladies night.

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By *lik and PaulCouple 1 day ago

cahoots

Couples only nights are a thing OP and just wish there were more of them. At the club that we prefer to attend, out of 6 nights a week couples only have one dedicated evening which is busier than any other night we have attended so it can't be a financial thing to have single guys there.

We would definitely attend more often if there were more couples only times.

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By *ager 2 PleaseMan 1 day ago

Birmingham/midlands

I totally get the message here, and agree it is not just off putting for ladies and couples, but guys as well.

I am one of the polite men that don’t hover, and don’t just whack their cock out the first site of play.

Guys just need to learn that clubs are not their domain, and should go in with no expectations. If you do that, you have a much better time and as a bonus, you don’t weird out couples and ladies. This results in speaking to more people, having actual conversations and leads to more play in the end.

It’s a shame men don’t get it, as this gives the rest of us a bad name.

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By *iss DevilWoman 1 day ago

Bedford

I don't mind single men in a club, but I do mind those who seem to believe a woman is there to provide entertainment for them, not for her own enjoyment. And, once she steps over the threshold of the club, she is fair game to anyone regardless whether she came with anyone or not.

I would only engage with a man who talks to me first like I am a person, not a collection of holes to fuck. And this is becoming extremely rare in clubs, unfortunately. The experience for everyone would be so much better if more men realised just whipping their cocks out, or wanking furiously when trying to speak to a woman, is not going to get them far.

I am lucky, in some respect, that because I don't drive, I can't go to a club on my own, I always go with either my partner or my FWB. But I used to go to my local gay spa on their bi events, as I very much enjoy watching men play. However, the experience was very much not what I wanted, hardly any bi action and being followed by a horde of single mute guys, some of them who would not take "no" for an answer. One day, I actually spent most of my visit between the TV room watching some telly (and even there, the room you're just supposed to relax in, men tried to touch me) and the bar area, waiting for my friend to come pick me up and take me to his. I stopped going to that place as I decided it was pointless, if the highlight of my day there was my friend picking me up once he finished work.

Yes, clubs probably should be more proactive regarding the hordes of men, but there isn't a lot they can do. Spa-based ones let most people in, nightclub style do limit the numbers. Then the pricing policy should discourage too many men to attend, but we all know some men would pay any money for even the sniff of sex. That creates a vicious circle as then men who paid a premium to get in expect sex for the money they paid, forgetting any woman in the club is there out of their own accord and for their own pleasure (clubs who hire "female entertainers" do not help here). Also, on their first visit, everyone is told the rules, and the rules are plastered around the clubs. I don't know if anyone bothers to read them though.

Last but not least - people who need to be told how to behave in clubs usually don't read forum anyway.

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By *orks funMan 1 day ago

Sheffield

Agree with what you are saying. God damn awful attitude by some, literally run round the club following females around, hunt in packs and talk loudly and over bearing to try and get into a pair of knickers.

Sly slips in the jacuzzi accidentally brushing a female, yet they do it everytime they get in when there is a different female in there.

The comments between men can be truly awful and derogatory, definitely some entitled male ass holes around.

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By *itSurreyCoupleCouple 1 day ago

Reigate

We won’t go to a club unless it was a couples or ladies night.

Just sounds like no fun at all.

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By *ellhungvweMan 1 day ago

Cheltenham

Maybe I am lucky but I don’t see that behaviour in the clubs I go to. They limit the number of males who can join and also pre vet them first.

I think you need a different club.

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By *endalshaggersCouple 1 day ago

Kendal

Having never been to a club, but we now and again read stories just in case on days the stars align and we decide to, these types of stories really put us off. While it is a club, and certain things are to be expected, the thought of having hordes of random blokes just sat around wanking or following couples in their droves in the hope of some action.....

If they are happy to pay the (apparently steep) charges to get in, why not instead stay away from the club and indulge in the services of the world's oldest profession? They'd literally get bang for their buck and "what they paid for"? Clearly they want sex and expect sex at a club.

C xoxo

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By *orks funMan 1 day ago

Sheffield


"Maybe I am lucky but I don’t see that behaviour in the clubs I go to. They limit the number of males who can join and also pre vet them first.

I think you need a different club."

Some clubs are way better than others. Not all are the same, chose wisely.

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By *lanenakedMan 1 day ago

near you

My god, I'm definitely too shy to behave like that. Curiosity made me visit a club and it was a quiet night and I can't say there was such an obvious over population of single guys. After a tour about I sat in the lounge with a drink and people watched a bit. I did notice one guy in particular seemed to constantly wander around sticking his head in through the door ways for a second then disappear to the next room, 2 minutes later he was back doing the same.. this collie dog kinda behaviour I found quite funny lol .. eventually I was approached by 2 couples which the ladies chatted me up slagging me off because I was resisting their prompts to go somewhere private.. ha .. my visit was purely to see if I liked the vibes and could see myself going back etc. For me I view the club environment as a place to meet like minded ladies, to get to know folk and perhaps swap contact details or something rather than a place to get my cock out. That's a line I don't think my sensibilities can allow me to cross, certainly as a single guy. However everybody is different and society is full of special people and odd balls, you'll certainly meet them at these clubs. As long as folks do what they are told, then anybody not happy is free to leave and attend a different night. There's enough toxic labels being thrown at single men these days, I'd say leave them be and do your own thing. Too much of this white knight vibe on this site.

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By *rdere OpusCouple 1 day ago

Birmingham


"Maybe I am lucky but I don’t see that behaviour in the clubs I go to. They limit the number of males who can join and also pre vet them first.

I think you need a different club.

Some clubs are way better than others. Not all are the same, chose wisely."

This is very true!

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By *iss DevilWoman 1 day ago

Bedford


"Having never been to a club, but we now and again read stories just in case on days the stars align and we decide to, these types of stories really put us off. While it is a club, and certain things are to be expected, the thought of having hordes of random blokes just sat around wanking or following couples in their droves in the hope of some action.....

If they are happy to pay the (apparently steep) charges to get in, why not instead stay away from the club and indulge in the services of the world's oldest profession? They'd literally get bang for their buck and "what they paid for"? Clearly they want sex and expect sex at a club.

C xoxo"

But that's different! Going to a swingers club is not, strictly, paying for sex even though that's the expectation, getting their dicks wet. Paying for a guaranteed sex from the professional is below many, and there is probably the feeling "do they really enjoy what I'm doing or are they pretending because I am paying?"

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By *pankingNorfolkCouple 1 day ago

Norwichish

If a couple does not want attention from multiple men then think it’s better to play in private rooms, some clubs offer private rooms with viewing windows so you can still get the voyeurs without the proximity.

We have seen the types you refer to in public areas, and it is definitely worse once one guy has been invited in then a line forms as everyone thinks they now “have a chance”.

We tend to play in public areas as that is our kink, although we do tell anyone who gets too close that they are welcome to watch but not to crowd, if they don’t listen we very quickly stop what we are doing and head to a private room to finish our fun.

That said at the Attic on Saturday night it definitely felt like more couples and less single guys watching and that was a very nice change.

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By *andb69Couple 1 day ago

leeds

Interestingly we have been going to clubs for well over ten years, and have visited many in the UK and abroad but have never found any problem with single men. When we first started we tried couples only nights but found them a little too cliquey: couples would often meet in a club because it was cheaper than getting a hotel room. As soon as we began attending open nights we had much more fun, particularly as I found I enjoyed the attention of multiple men.

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By *octor ProdMan 1 day ago

working Overseas

One of the downsides about the increase in popularity of swinging is that more single men joined the lifestyle; a significant number who have no understanding of the lifestyle and the basic rules, have no respect for others, lack social skills and feel entitled to do what they want.

Yes, there have always been single men like this in clubs, but over the last 10 years it has got worse with the increase in popularity of clubs.

To the poster; don't give up on clubs. There are many great clubs around the country that limit our numbers and where you can have a great social night and make new friends

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By *orporatejock32 OP   Man 1 day ago

Harrow

Thank you all for your comments! I'm glad it wasn't just me - it wasn't the best experience but at least I've walked away knowing this is an issue in the community that does need addressing.

As one commenter said, it did make my skin crawl quite a bit and I'd hope *some* clubs take a stronger approach to regulating the experience by putting in guardrails to stop some of these types of odd behaviour.

I definitely look to attend a couples event next year either as a couple or with a friend. I would also be curious to know which clubs vet and limit the number of single men but this is evidently not something I'd ask anyone to mention in this forum openly so please refrain from doing so otherwise the wanking dead will definitely find their way to those places too!

(^ I'm in London so doubtful that there are any clubs who operate a vetting process as such. If anyone has any ideas, I'd be comfortable with a private message.)

Do keep any insights / comments coming - it would be good for others to see this being an issue that needs solving!

Many thanks again and have a wonderful christmas & a happy new year!

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By *rdere OpusCouple 1 day ago

Birmingham


"

I would also be curious to know which clubs vet and limit the number of single men but this is evidently not something I'd ask anyone to mention in this forum openly so please refrain from doing so otherwise the wanking dead will definitely find their way to those places too! "

Not London obviously, but several of the Libs events vet single guys who are new to an event via a video call or as a minimum requiring meet veris and a reasonable Fab profile. There are limited numbers of spaces for single men on the guest lists - where relevant, this is made clear in the forum event posts.

L

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By *oxy jWoman 1 day ago

taunton somerset

i only do clubs that dont restrict men numbers purely because its so easy to see who ok and who's not just like life in general and im more than happy to tell anyone i dont want near me that im not interested ...

single men for me has never been the problem easy to manage very rare they cause me trouble ...for me by far the worse people in the clubs are some of the male halfs of couples talk about stink of entitlement these guys are the other halfs of women who are playing and the hubs is not involved (i wonder why) they dont like the word no ive even had bits of paper with phone number with them saying mrs dont need to know so for me and several of my swinging club friends the male partner of some is the biggest problem ..

the other ruin a night out is the d*unk single woman who think they can grope anything yet as soon as its done back out come the cries of consent..

i never go to a club on my own even those where i know loads i always have hubs/cuck who never plays hence my eyes or a boyfriend ive known for a very long time

if i was a single woman id never go to a club infact id never swing being single far too many assholes on the scene now for that ...safety first at all times

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By *h3rry Bomb80Man 1 day ago

the moon

You’d think people would have common sense to fuck off when they’re not welcome … 🤷‍♂️😀 … Take the hint ..

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By *incs_TiggerMan 1 day ago

Ask me

This is the sort of thing that turns me off as a single guy, a little conversation (especially if it’s spicy) turns on the mind as well as the body. Just had a little peek at your profile and verifications and by the sound of things you’re approachable and sociable. Their loss!

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By *incs_TiggerMan 1 day ago

Ask me

Yep, and not everybody is for everybody. We all have to accept that sometimes the spark isn’t there, and the least we can do is leave the impression of “not for me, but a nice polite guy”.

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By *incs_TiggerMan 1 day ago

Ask me

It happened in the dogging world, once it became a known thing it killed it off. Not just in terms of activities, but guys showing up with a sense of entitlement and zero social skills or self-awareness just killed the thrill. It’s a shame it’s now (and for a while) happening at clubs too.

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By *bi HaiveMan 1 day ago
Forum Mod

Cheeseville, Somerset

There's a different atmosphere at clubs on couples only and mixed nights for sure.

But not always bad. I've had just as bad experiences on couples nights as mixed, and equally some amazing nights at events where single guys were present.

As a guy I'd say one thing. Stop worrying about the behaviour of other men. Just do you.

Women and couples aren't stupid. They can easily gauge who is an idiot and who isn't in a heartbeat. They're more than capable of saying no thanks and/or ignoring the attentions of unwanted suitors. They can spot the guys that are polite and not pushy. In a way it's handy that some guys display unwanted behaviour. It makes them stick out like a sore thumb.

And never forget that there's plenty of couples and women that aren't keen on couples nights because it's men that they're looking for.

If you don't come across as a dick, you'll stand out just as much as those that do. Never let the behaviours of others affect your club life because nothing anyone else does actually reflects on you in the slightest.

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By *orporatejock32 OP   Man 24 hours ago

Harrow


"This is the sort of thing that turns me off as a single guy, a little conversation (especially if it’s spicy) turns on the mind as well as the body. Just had a little peek at your profile and verifications and by the sound of things you’re approachable and sociable. Their loss! "

Thank you, the kind words are much appreciated! I had a good chat with the Fab profiles I had spoken to prior to the event but the men lingering about and making things uncomfortable at the cinema. I do my best to hold a conversation but am also aware when it is time to move on and "read the room" so to speak, which I did with good intention.


"As a guy I'd say one thing. Stop worrying about the behaviour of other men. Just do you."

Understood! Your advice and insight is much appreciated and will definitely refer to it when considering to visit other clubs. As it was the first time I was visiting as a single man, there were also a few understandable nerves involved but the more I meet people, the more I'm sure I'll be able to enjoy the events.


"Not London obviously, but several of the Libs events vet single guys who are new to an event via a video call or as a minimum requiring meet veris and a reasonable Fab profile."

Thanks for this advice, will look into it! I'm very supportive of this screening process and feel this would be ideal for all parties involved if this equivalent was implemented as a standard across all clubs. The event hosts seem to have done a great job, shame it's a distance away but will keep it in mind when I am travelling!

Thanks so much once again: I'm now less irked out and realising there are good people in this lifestyle who understand my view and experiences

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By * and BCouple 24 hours ago

Durham

It is really strange how these single men gallop around a club all night, maybe they are getting their steps in? It's not a good look, they just look desperate. We recently chatted to a guy on fab for a couple of weeks prior to him and us visiting the same club. We felt the chat had gone well and Mrs F seemed keen as long as all went well on the night. We arrived and he arrived not long after. We recognised each other straight away. He introduced himself and spent maybe 3 mins with us and then progressed into his gallop. Hesitating every time he passed us with what we can only think he thought he might have felt a tug on his reigns, oh my god did that put Mrs F right off so we let him gallop by all night. At the end of the night, may we say out of breath and we don't mean through hours of fun either, he spoke again as we were just about to leave. If only he had spent some time in our company to chat and have a laugh. We are sure he was over 6 foot at the start of the night and down to 5 foot 10 with wearing his legs down by the end of the night.

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By *enelope2UWoman 24 hours ago

Fife

I feel different I do not want a single guy or couples for that matter scouting chatting for no reason when he or they only want to fuck..

I'd much rather be in the moment look over and take it from there. If it's just sex leave it as just sex if it's trying to establish comparability something repetitive consistent then by all means do the interest conversations etc..

That to me requires more and I'm far pickier than someone present in the moment. I feel more ick seeing or hearing the same lines repeated over and over again cut and paste style, than being asked is it ok if I join she looks tasty and my play partner checking with me (because he knows iff I'm gagging for more or I'm on my rest moment) or knows they aren't my type and says no mate we're good.

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By *hatsWhatCoupleCouple 24 hours ago

Northampton

Wowser! Not a club we want on our list

We enjoy nights with single guys, more so than couple nights. It was written earlier, couples nights can feel cliquey.

Our regular club has checks, balances and a long waiting list to control single men numbers.

Every night is different with a mix of character types. We always have fun and keep clear of the types we have no interest in; no more than a polite “no” has been required.

OP, don’t give up, sounds like the club was wrong

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By *andD300Couple 24 hours ago

london

We’ve not been to a club yet and reading this has been a big help.

A couples and ladies night sounds just perfect for us.

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By *irsSubCouple 24 hours ago

Darlington

We've had some amazing experiences with single guys and some really bad ones. If I could give any single guy some advice it would be to be respectful. Following us, wanking and loudly chatting whilst watching us play or just lying next to us is a massive turn off.

Being respectful goes a long way. One the best experiences we had was with a guy who simply asked if we were OK with him watching, sounds silly but made all the difference

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By *andPextraCouple 24 hours ago

North West


"We've had some amazing experiences with single guys and some really bad ones. If I could give any single guy some advice it would be to be respectful. Following us, wanking and loudly chatting whilst watching us play or just lying next to us is a massive turn off.

Being respectful goes a long way. One the best experiences we had was with a guy who simply asked if we were OK with him watching, sounds silly but made all the difference"

Good advice right there

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By *orporatejock32 OP   Man 24 hours ago

Harrow


" We recently chatted to a guy on fab for a couple of weeks prior to him and us visiting the same club. We felt the chat had gone well and Mrs F seemed keen as long as all went well on the night. We arrived and he arrived not long after. We recognised each other straight away. He introduced himself and spent maybe 3 mins with us and then progressed into his gallop."

Hahaha this made me laugh, I'm sorry for laughing. The club I went to had a no-phones policy, which made absolute sense given the potential issues it could cause. It did, however, mean I had to guess where the couples were as it had been a while since I saw their face pic. This is something I learnt and will take forward for future reference e.g. I should suggest a face-to-face interaction prior to arrival.


" I'd much rather be in the moment look over and take it from there. If it's just sex leave it as just sex if it's trying to establish comparability something repetitive consistent then by all means do the interest conversations etc.. "

I can see where you are coming from with this sentiment if that is what you prefer. Personally, I do want to learn about the other person as I think it's enjoyable to make new connections (which have definitely been very valuable for both parties in the long run). This has, of course, been a challenge for me on Fab given the unfortunate behaviour of many individuals on the platform but alas I'll endeavour to continue being as genuine as possible.


" Our regular club has checks, balances and a long waiting list to control single men numbers.

Every night is different with a mix of character types. We always have fun and keep clear of the types we have no interest in; no more than a polite “no” has been required.

OP, don’t give up, sounds like the club was wrong. "

Thank you WhatsWhatCouple! The club itself is fairly renowned and the staff there were very friendly. It was more on the attendees though in my view. I did read their members' suggestion board where it did say the club needed to improve in certain areas so this post is definitely something I could address to them for future reference.


" We’ve not been to a club yet and reading this has been a big help.

A couples and ladies night sounds just perfect for us. "

No worries, glad you feel informed!


" We've had some amazing experiences with single guys and some really bad ones. If I could give any single guy some advice it would be to be respectful. Following us, wanking and loudly chatting whilst watching us play or just lying next to us is a massive turn off.

Being respectful goes a long way. One the best experiences we had was with a guy who simply asked if we were OK with him watching, sounds silly but made all the difference. "

Yes, I totally agree and understand! I sat at the back of the cinema and was simply trying to familiarise myself with the dynamics of the room without interrupting anyone's experience as that would be selfish and rude. The other 50 odd single men would walk in and immediately occupy the couple(s) which made the room experience a bit difficult to sit through.

Definitely will remember the advice in the future though, also!

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By *ewCoupleHXCouple 23 hours ago

Halifax

Most of the time these guys are being disrespectful to themselves, doubt they even realise this.

We went to a social once and I was happily chatting to a guy, within minutes I was surrounded by 5, 6 guys all wanting a piece of conversation and some getting a bit too sleazy. My over friendly demeanor must have given them the wrong idea, anyway they absolutely spoilt it for the decent man I was chatting with and left me no option but to retreat to the safety of our couple friends group.

Mrs.

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By *orporatejock32 OP   Man 23 hours ago

Harrow


"Most of the time these guys are being disrespectful to themselves, doubt they even realise this.

We went to a social once and I was happily chatting to a guy, within minutes I was surrounded by 5, 6 guys all wanting a piece of conversation and some getting a bit too sleazy. My over friendly demeanor must have given them the wrong idea, anyway they absolutely spoilt it for the decent man I was chatting with and left me no option but to retreat to the safety of our couple friends group.

Mrs."

Absolutely word-for-word what happened to me as I alluded to above. It was very disappointing as I was having a pleasant conversation with a few different attendees (MF / F) before the same issue kept on happening over and over again. I'd be talking to either the M or the F of the couple and suddenly, 4-5 single guys appear out of nowhere and try to one-up each other in the now-formed group conversation.

I remember speaking to a friend afterward and I said to her "you know, I can understand now why women in this lifestyle don't look kindly on single men because it is so unusual and off-putting what I saw that night."

Very disappointed but what can I say? Can't blame you at all for retreating - I'd have 100% done the same.

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By *areSentientMan 23 hours ago

Leeds

I've never been to a swinger club. I'll be going soon as a couple though. I am also a single man, and even I understand how uncomfortable it can be for everyone if there are loads of single men.

I used to work as a bouncer for a regular club/pub, and we'd casually put a limit on the number of all-male groups and lone males coming in. But swinger clubs often charge a lot more for single men (I guess to limit the number), but unfortunately this also puts a financial incentive to let in as many single men as they can that it defeats the purpose.

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By *aomilatteCouple 23 hours ago

Midlands

We only attend club nights that allow "single" Men and never have any issues. Experience has taught us to stick together and play in lockable playrooms. It's not just "single" Men who have no social skills in clubs, it applies to others too. They are part of the entertainment to us, and if they engaged in conversation with us who knows what might happen?

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By *ink vixenCouple 23 hours ago

Medway

Not sure what point you’re trying to make here to be honest

Is this some form of virtue signalling.

I was at a club as a single guy but I was much better than the other single guys?

Have I missed something?

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By *erigold300Couple 22 hours ago

Doncaster

We’ve been to our local club 3 times in the last 3 months and I don’t recognise your description.

But maybe we’ve just been lucky?

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By *oxy jWoman 22 hours ago

taunton somerset

i/we wont do couples only nights or clubs that restrict men there are too many clubs controlled by couples who only want couples ... best club night are the very mixed nighs

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By *orporatejock32 OP   Man 22 hours ago

Harrow


"Not sure what point you’re trying to make here to be honest

Is this some form of virtue signalling.

I was at a club as a single guy but I was much better than the other single guys?

Have I missed something? "

Hi there, sorry for lack of clarification. I tried alluding to it in the second message I sent on this forum but I am new to this functionality so it was unsuccessful.

My line of questioning was around how (if any) clubs mitigate these issues of e.g. "The Wanking Dead" single men walking around aimlessly, single men immediately swarming single women or those in a couple and not being considerate of people's general boundaries.

As it was my first time, I wanted to offer my own insight and comment that I felt it was a strange environment with so many single men that I chose to leave. I then wanted to ask if this was a common occurence across all swingers' clubs or specific to some than to others.

I was not intending to virtue signal as I would hope what I did was not unique or special in any way. It was simply trying to understand the current situation / landscape and how clubs try to work around this when and where possible, as some members have kindly suggested.


" We’ve been to our local club 3 times in the last 3 months and I don’t recognise your description.

But maybe we’ve just been lucky? "

Totally normal by the looks of things - was just curious how common my description was. If it's not common in your experiences, that is a good thing haha

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By *ML49Man 22 hours ago

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"I've been involved with swingers for the past 4 years and generally, I've enjoyed the company of the few people I've met through my own hobbies or through prior University studies.

I left a long-term non-monogamous relationship recently (through which I attended Le Boudoir years ago) as the relationship itself had become fairly toxic and on suggestion of a friend who's actively in the scene, I thought to see what a social was like at a swinger's club in a town completely different to mine (attending as a single man). I had made the effort of contacting a few profiles who had listed their intention to be attending just so I could at least strike a few conversations but it was my general intent to look around, see what the venue was like and meet people.

Shortly after entering and looking around, it became clear there were way too many single men loitering around. I thought only 6-8 single men would be there as I'd assumed there would be a limit... there was not! More like 35-45 single men.

I had struck conversations with two couples who I introduced myself to and immediately, a stream of single men had shown up to be a part of the conversation. I don't mind a few people to have a chat with but when there's 6 or 7 random men who have no interest in what you say and are trying to get to the woman in the couple to attract her interest, that's very odd behaviour and I shortly decided to leave since it all seemed really weird.

I can see now why the "wanking dead" is a problem at clubs. I excused myself from the venue and called it an early night because it was really off-putting to see so many random individuals just standing around the cinema or couples' only sections. I'd go to the bar, talk to a couple or a woman there and introduce myself but these men would just hang around. In the cinema specifically, they'd get up, walk towards a couple who are enjoying themselves and immediately drop their trousers holding their cocks... rather odd I must say.

It's safe to say I won't be attending a club as a single man ever again: I would like to return with a woman (either as a couple or with a friend) to a couples' only night but I really was put off by the single men in the club, and I'm saying that as a single man myself.

Sorry to any single man who may be offended - I couldn't believe how bad it was and I can see now why couples' only nights are a thing. Sucks really, but it is what it is!"

Don't give up on clubs. Maybe you need to ask how many single guys they allow on a night? Plus do voice your concerns to the club ownwers as they may not be aware it bothers people.

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By *aughtyTwosomeCouple 21 hours ago

Kent

This is pretty much what puts us off going to single guy nights, shame really as we are more likely to actually find someone we might want to join us like this, but most guys don't actually want to just chat and have a laugh and see what happens most just want to wank and be a pest, we know there's good guys out there but are definitely over shadowed by the rest. It's pretty much the same on fab 🙄

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By *aprica2Couple 21 hours ago

Addlestone

So many good valid points in this post we've been frequently visiting our local clubs, unfortunately we've been really put off by the single guys, they have this weird sense of entitlement.

We'll be walking about as a couple and they'll jump on the Mrs no regard to me like I'm not even there which isn't ever going to fly with me or her, it's like they think I'm just gonna palm her off with anyone to get her out of my hair for 5 minutes.

The way they stalk you around the club gets a bit worrying I had to tell one creep to fuck off in the changing room as he was stood there licking his lips grabing his dick while she was trying to get dressed after we'd been in the wet areas, it just gets relentless imagine having the audacity to start wanking over a guys wife in front of him when it's unwanted, needless to say we'll not be doing single guy nights ever again hand full of nice guys probably missing out on a fun night due to the hoard of creepy wanking dead, definitely the ones that probably think why can't I get any action, because flopping you knob out and wanking likes its going out of fashion isn't sexy it's desperate.

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By *emurewifeCouple 19 hours ago

Leeds

After many years of being couples and SF only, but going to swingers clubs on mixed nights we have seen the full range of single guy behaviour. To be honest, we found only a few real tossers (no pun intended).

Now that we are interested in single guys we find the main problem, as a few have mentioned, is it is difficult to find a guy who is not afraid to strike up a sensible conversation with a couple.

If W found him physically attractive then all he would need to do is be polite, attentive and a bit seductive to probably have a good time with her.

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By *orporatejock32 OP   Man 31 minutes ago

Harrow


" Don't give up on clubs. Maybe you need to ask how many single guys they allow on a night? Plus do voice your concerns to the club ownwers as they may not be aware it bothers people. "

This is my plan! I think the next time I see an event, I will approach the organisers at the venue to ask if there are limits on single men and voice my feedback accordingly.


" This is pretty much what puts us off going to single guy nights, shame really as we are more likely to actually find someone we might want to join us like this, but most guys don't actually want to just chat and have a laugh and see what happens most just want to wank and be a pest, we know there's good guys out there but are definitely over shadowed by the rest. It's pretty much the same on fab. "

This is also my experience on Fab! I did once query the number of male profiles and I think it was a magnitude larger than MF and F profiles. You can see it also by the number of fabs a photo gets within an hour. Although I can't speak for all single men, I have seen complaints about single men introducing themselves in ways such as "hey wuu2" or equivalent, which I find odd and would never do. Shame, but it is what it is hahaha.


" The way they stalk you around the club gets a bit worrying I had to tell one creep to fuck off in the changing room as he was stood there licking his lips grabing his dick while she was trying to get dressed after we'd been in the wet areas... "

That's definitely creepy: I didn't see that thankfully at this club but again, I would appreciate if clubs did enforce some expectations to avoid ruining the experiences of other attendees as I would also be creeped out from seeing that. Definitely saw the "following" behaviour more from the older single men but that's owing to the number of them as opposed to specific traits.


" Now that we are interested in single guys we find the main problem, as a few have mentioned, is it is difficult to find a guy who is not afraid to strike up a sensible conversation with a couple. "

I wasn't aware that a sensible conversation was an issue, but that's probably more because I've never struggled with that aspect of it through my professional experience. As I said in a previous post, it helps to contact couples ahead of time to build a rapport prior to events but maybe it's a fear of coming over as a creep that causes some anxiety. I like to think there's no harm in trying to have a chat so I give it a go but that's just my perspective on it.

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