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"Before anyone starts jumping down our throats preaching we know this isn't for everyone. If it isn't for you then please read no further, no need for preaching to others for doing what they want to, this site is about free choice after all. Anyone posting derogatory comments will have there post removed. Anyway, for those of you still reading, we have the opportunity to use a club for a bareback friendly night where all attending are willing to play bareback. Before we take the club up on the offer we are trying to gauge how many people would be interested in attending such a night. It would be for mixed couples, guys and ladies and as per usual club/swinging rules you wouldn't be expected to play if you don't want to. If you do not want to reply on here for fear of the preachers then please feel free to message us direct. The club in question is centrally located and is very clean and it would be either a Friday or Saturday night. To register an interest or to ask a question please comment below or message direct. " A very very brave post! Not for me though! | |||
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"didnt think clubs promoted bareback!" They don't, not reputable ones anyway x | |||
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"It is a brave club which cancels its usual Friday or Saturday night to host a bareback only event. I would have thought they would "test the waters" on a weeknight first. " I was thinking the same. X | |||
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"Most of you that are preaching about I value my health, clearly don't value it enough to take yourself down the gym " Most?.....can't tell if you do from your silhouette | |||
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"Most of you that are preaching about I value my health, clearly don't value it enough to take yourself down the gym " What has this got to do with the OP's post? Also, gym is not for everyone, for a variety of reasons, be it price, time, availability of equipment, personal health issues etc. What is more, if every person were gym bunnies, toned and fit, life would be boring! | |||
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"I like this post. Helpful. I've blocked all their veris for a start "Very helpful. | |||
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"I like this post. Helpful. I've blocked all their veris for a start "Ditto lol x | |||
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"Most of you that are preaching about I value my health, clearly don't value it enough to take yourself down the gym " Love a great filter comment like this | |||
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"Most of you that are preaching about I value my health, clearly don't value it enough to take yourself down the gym " But you can't catch obesity from a meet | |||
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"I like this post. Helpful. I've blocked all their veris for a start
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"Most of you that are preaching about I value my health, clearly don't value it enough to take yourself down the gym " Boom! | |||
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"It is a brave club which cancels its usual Friday or Saturday night to host a bareback only event. I would have thought they would "test the waters" on a weeknight first. " The waters aren’t the only thing that will need testing | |||
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"Not for me thanks and then neither would anyone on your verifications list be or anyone on theirs either . You deserve to be 'preached' at frankly whether you want to avoid it or not .. Unbelievable ! " Deserve to be preached at? Have you not heard of live and let live and don't judge others. Jeeeeez. At least they are being honest and upfront about how they play. | |||
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"Such a paradox that lot of people who gave OP a meet veri, state "safe sex" in their profiles..." Are they? I didn't get chance to check before blocking them.... x N | |||
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"The waters aren’t the only thing that will need testing "Hahahaha | |||
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"Bareback isn’t for us all but who are we to judge, least they’re honest! Obesity, alcohol, drugs etc can damaging to your health too but I reckon there’s a fair few of you negatively commenting that are obese or use/take drugs and or alcohol "The difference is you don't catch someone else's obesity or alcoholism. Try talking to someone who practices safe sex with everyone except their partner and then their partner barebacks and gives something to them. | |||
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"Bareback isn’t for us all but who are we to judge, least they’re honest! Obesity, alcohol, drugs etc can damaging to your health too but I reckon there’s a fair few of you negatively commenting that are obese or use/take drugs and or alcohol
The difference is you don't catch someone else's obesity or alcoholism.
Try talking to someone who practices safe sex with everyone except their partner and then their partner barebacks and gives something to them."If you’re willing to bareback with 1 person regardless of whether they’re your long term partner/spouse or not, it’s still down to you....... you are the one that chose to put your health at risk. Just like someone fat like me chooses to eat too much of the wrong stuff, I’ve chose to take that risk! It’s personal choice, no need for anyone on here to judge | |||
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"No need for a lot of the comments. We understand bareback isn't for most of us (incl us) but we really don't see the need to make other people feel bad and feel judged for how they choose to play. They are being upfront and honest, which is more than can be said for a lot of people on this site. " I totally see where you are coming from. And although, yes, I am judging, it is purely out of fear of our personal health. I respect that this is their life choice, but when there is even a minimal chance that their choice will negate or affect ours, then I have a right to voice my opinion and act in a way to protect it. x Niki | |||
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"No need for a lot of the comments. We understand bareback isn't for most of us (incl us) but we really don't see the need to make other people feel bad and feel judged for how they choose to play. They are being upfront and honest, which is more than can be said for a lot of people on this site. " | |||
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"No need for a lot of the comments. We understand bareback isn't for most of us (incl us) but we really don't see the need to make other people feel bad and feel judged for how they choose to play. They are being upfront and honest, which is more than can be said for a lot of people on this site. I totally see where you are coming from. And although, yes, I am judging, it is purely out of fear of our personal health. I respect that this is their life choice, but when there is even a minimal chance that their choice will negate or affect ours, then I have a right to voice my opinion and act in a way to protect it. x Niki " Obviously. But you have a choice whether to play bareback with your partners, so how they choose to play doesn't have any impact on your life. | |||
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"Most of you that are preaching about I value my health, clearly don't value it enough to take yourself down the gym " PMSL | |||
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"No need for a lot of the comments. We understand bareback isn't for most of us (incl us) but we really don't see the need to make other people feel bad and feel judged for how they choose to play. They are being upfront and honest, which is more than can be said for a lot of people on this site. I totally see where you are coming from. And although, yes, I am judging, it is purely out of fear of our personal health. I respect that this is their life choice, but when there is even a minimal chance that their choice will negate or affect ours, then I have a right to voice my opinion and act in a way to protect it. x Niki Obviously. But you have a choice whether to play bareback with your partners, so how they choose to play doesn't have any impact on your life. " I think you missed my point: "when there is even a minimal chance that their choice will negate or affect ours, then I have a right to voice my opinion and act in a way to protect it. " I'm not being an arsehole here - it's a swinging website. I'm entitled to block those and disagree with those that don't value their health the same way that we do. N x | |||
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"No need for a lot of the comments. We understand bareback isn't for most of us (incl us) but we really don't see the need to make other people feel bad and feel judged for how they choose to play. They are being upfront and honest, which is more than can be said for a lot of people on this site. I totally see where you are coming from. And although, yes, I am judging, it is purely out of fear of our personal health. I respect that this is their life choice, but when there is even a minimal chance that their choice will negate or affect ours, then I have a right to voice my opinion and act in a way to protect it. x Niki Obviously. But you have a choice whether to play bareback with your partners, so how they choose to play doesn't have any impact on your life. I think you missed my point: "when there is even a minimal chance that their choice will negate or affect ours, then I have a right to voice my opinion and act in a way to protect it. " I'm not being an arsehole here - it's a swinging website. I'm entitled to block those and disagree with those that don't value their health the same way that we do. N x " Of course you are. Just a shame people feel the need to judge others when it doesn't impact their lives. Hey ho...live and let live we say | |||
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"Also, gym is not for everyone, for a variety of reasons, be it price, time, availability of equipment, personal health issues etc. What is more, if every person were gym bunnies, toned and fit, life would be boring! " Couldn't agree more. I am currently sitting on a turbo in the garage for my fitness... but that is completely different to the op question.... personally, it's a no from me... | |||
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"Bareback isn’t for us all but who are we to judge, least they’re honest! Obesity, alcohol, drugs etc can damaging to your health too but I reckon there’s a fair few of you negatively commenting that are obese or use/take drugs and or alcohol "Lifestyle choice yes the point is will all of them be up to date tested? Why would you willing put your health at risk? Drugs I have not and will not take personal choice seen to much crap and what it does to decent human beings. On the subject of alcohol again own personal choice if we want to have a drink or not. Now people who are obese have you given any thought that they might have a gland problem and nothing to do with over eating? | |||
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"Before anyone starts jumping down our throats preaching we know this isn't for everyone. If it isn't for you then please read no further, no need for preaching to others for doing what they want to, this site is about free choice after all. Anyone posting derogatory comments will have there post removed. Anyway, for those of you still reading, we have the opportunity to use a club for a bareback friendly night where all attending are willing to play bareback. Before we take the club up on the offer we are trying to gauge how many people would be interested in attending such a night. It would be for mixed couples, guys and ladies and as per usual club/swinging rules you wouldn't be expected to play if you don't want to. If you do not want to reply on here for fear of the preachers then please feel free to message us direct. The club in question is centrally located and is very clean and it would be either a Friday or Saturday night. To register an interest or to ask a question please comment below or message direct. " This might actually work....... I’m sure your inbox is overflowing | |||
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"Most of you that are preaching about I value my health, clearly don't value it enough to take yourself down the gym " You win the internet | |||
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" This might actually work....... I’m sure your inbox is overflowing " Surely before anyone commits to going they need to know the date and location | |||
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"Bareback isn’t for us all but who are we to judge, least they’re honest! Obesity, alcohol, drugs etc can damaging to your health too but I reckon there’s a fair few of you negatively commenting that are obese or use/take drugs and or alcohol
Lifestyle choice yes the point is will all of them be up to date tested?
Why would you willing put your health at risk?
Drugs I have not and will not take personal choice seen to much crap and what it does to decent human beings. On the subject of alcohol again own personal choice if we want to have a drink or not.
Now people who are obese have you given any thought that they might have a gland problem and nothing to do with over eating?
"Like I said it isn’t for all of us, I’m not interested in bareback but I am a firm believer in live and let live......... I was just using those as examples, life is full of choices and this is theres at least they’re honest about it and the rest of us can make an informed choice. No need to judge, I’ll just be using this information wisely without judgement. | |||
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"No need for a lot of the comments. We understand bareback isn't for most of us (incl us) but we really don't see the need to make other people feel bad and feel judged for how they choose to play. They are being upfront and honest, which is more than can be said for a lot of people on this site. " It's so rare to hear comments like yours. I completely agree. Bareback is not for everyone (and let's not get into the "any future children as a consequence" brigade). I don't go about advertising that I'm safe sex only, I don't think it's anyone's business. As a preference for bareback is also no one's business except for those involved. Open and honest says more than the tirade of abuse so many pile on. | |||
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"Most of you that are preaching about I value my health, clearly don't value it enough to take yourself down the gym " Ooosh shots fires | |||
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"Not for me thanks and then neither would anyone on your verifications list be or anyone on theirs either . You deserve to be 'preached' at frankly whether you want to avoid it or not .. Unbelievable ! Deserve to be preached at? Have you not heard of live and let live and don't judge others. Jeeeeez. At least they are being honest and upfront about how they play." Actually NO on this occasion you are not right . Firstly some people f you d can still remember Aids ! Can you ? If you can that's enough to make you think . Secondly ..fine choice Of word ' live' ..it's not live and let live . If people want to have bareback sex than its not just them we need to think about . It is all the people in the ' chain' on here that can mean a lot of people . I would agree to an extent if the only people who attended Were certificate clean and disease free . Regularly tested Anyone who visits club has to prove that .Saying ' I'm clean' has often led to many visits to the clap clinic for someone else . When all said and done it's about being and showing responsibility and frankly someone saying they are clean I'd not being responsible . By all means have fun but be responsible to yourself and more importantly to other people . | |||
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"Not for me thanks and then neither would anyone on your verifications list be or anyone on theirs either . You deserve to be 'preached' at frankly whether you want to avoid it or not .. Unbelievable ! Deserve to be preached at? Have you not heard of live and let live and don't judge others. Jeeeeez. At least they are being honest and upfront about how they play. Actually NO on this occasion you are not right . Firstly some people f you d can still remember Aids ! Can you ? If you can that's enough to make you think . Secondly ..fine choice Of word ' live' ..it's not live and let live . If people want to have bareback sex than its not just them we need to think about . It is all the people in the ' chain' on here that can mean a lot of people . I would agree to an extent if the only people who attended Were certificate clean and disease free . Regularly tested Anyone who visits club has to prove that .Saying ' I'm clean' has often led to many visits to the clap clinic for someone else . When all said and done it's about being and showing responsibility and frankly someone saying they are clean I'd not being responsible . By all means have fun but be responsible to yourself and more importantly to other people . " But someone saying "I'm clean" wouldn't lead to the clap clinic for someone else, if someone else chose to play safe... It's a personal decision. With personal consequences. Not my thing but others playing bare has no effect on you, as long as you play safe. There is a special place in hell for those cheating on their partners and playing bare, but that is a separate issue. Bringing hellfire and damnation on everyone that plays bare will not change their minds. It just leads to people not being honest about it | |||
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"Well, it's nice to see that so many people want to judge and berate things that we, and plenty of others, enjoy doing. It is also nice to know that we have received more private messages showing an interest in our night than there has been negative comments on here. We only have one question for the 'I value my health' crowd - how many of you use a condom or dental dam when performing oral sex? According to the NHS website, oral sex is one of the most common says STI's are passed on, such as Chlamydia, herpes, genital warts, gonrrhoea, hepatitis A, B and C, HIV and syphilis. So you are therefore just as much at risk as us! Our original post did say this isn't for everybody and to move on if it wasn't, just goes to show that some people aren't happy unless they are judging others. Many thanks to all the posters on this thread that been respectful with any comments they have made. The swinging scene is about being yourself, enjoying yourself and not being judged for it. If you don't like what someone else does then fine, don't meet that person, let them do what they want to do and you carry on doing what you want to! " it is a forum of different opinions though and you knew you would get criticism before you started but the interest you got outweighed it i hope  | |||
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"it is a forum of different opinions though and you knew you would get criticism before you started but the interest you got outweighed it i hope "Hi, opposing opinions is not a problem as every person has their own, and criticism towards us is like water off a ducks back, and like you said I was expecting some. What I can't understand are the people who take things so personally that they feel it's okay to send abusive, vile messages and then bravely block us so we can't reply. There is no place for that sort of thing on here. Anyway, yes the interest did outweigh everything else so it has worked its purpose. | |||
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"Well, it's nice to see that so many people want to judge and berate things that we, and plenty of others, enjoy doing. It is also nice to know that we have received more private messages showing an interest in our night than there has been negative comments on here. We only have one question for the 'I value my health' crowd - how many of you use a condom or dental dam when performing oral sex? According to the NHS website, oral sex is one of the most common says STI's are passed on, such as Chlamydia, herpes, genital warts, gonrrhoea, hepatitis A, B and C, HIV and syphilis. So you are therefore just as much at risk as us! Our original post did say this isn't for everybody and to move on if it wasn't, just goes to show that some people aren't happy unless they are judging others. Many thanks to all the posters on this thread that been respectful with any comments they have made. The swinging scene is about being yourself, enjoying yourself and not being judged for it. If you don't like what someone else does then fine, don't meet that person, let them do what they want to do and you carry on doing what you want to! " Firstly, There is a risk of passing STIs/STDs through unprotected oral sex, but it’s a lesser risk than penetrative sex. Secondly, you’ve taken the information off the nhs website out of context. It’s not that STIs/STDs are COMMONLY PASSED through oral sex. If you reread what it says on the website, it actually states; ‘The MOST COMMON STIs that can be passed on through oral sex include: herpes gonorrhoea syphilis Other STIs that are passed on less commonly through oral sex include: chlamydia genital warts hepatitis A hepatitis B hepatitis C HIV pubic lice It’s up to you whether you and others have bareback sex or not. It’s not something we do with strangers. I commend you and others whom state it clearly on their profile, thus giving others an informed decision. Just make sure that everyone knows the correct information about the risks before proceeding. J | |||
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"it is a forum of different opinions though and you knew you would get criticism before you started but the interest you got outweighed it i hope
Hi, opposing opinions is not a problem as every person has their own, and criticism towards us is like water off a ducks back, and like you said I was expecting some.
What I can't understand are the people who take things so personally that they feel it's okay to send abusive, vile messages and then bravely block us so we can't reply. There is no place for that sort of thing on here.
Anyway, yes the interest did outweigh everything else so it has worked its purpose. "my point was you knew it was coming sorry for the pun and glad it worked out for you | |||
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"Not for me thanks and then neither would anyone on your verifications list be or anyone on theirs either . You deserve to be 'preached' at frankly whether you want to avoid it or not .. Unbelievable ! Deserve to be preached at? Have you not heard of live and let live and don't judge others. Jeeeeez. At least they are being honest and upfront about how they play. Actually NO on this occasion you are not right . Firstly some people f you d can still remember Aids ! Can you ? If you can that's enough to make you think . Secondly ..fine choice Of word ' live' ..it's not live and let live . If people want to have bareback sex than its not just them we need to think about . It is all the people in the ' chain' on here that can mean a lot of people . I would agree to an extent if the only people who attended Were certificate clean and disease free . Regularly tested Anyone who visits club has to prove that .Saying ' I'm clean' has often led to many visits to the clap clinic for someone else . When all said and done it's about being and showing responsibility and frankly someone saying they are clean I'd not being responsible . By all means have fun but be responsible to yourself and more importantly to other people . " Yes I remember aids but you are totally missing the point here. They are choosing to play bareback as others are who will be meeting them. We would never do bareback but we certainly would never put down others who choose to. I don't see how it effects anyone else. If you use protection with those you have sex with then you are safe, regardless if they have done bareback elsewhere. So yes it is a case mind your own business and live and let live. Their life, their choice. | |||
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"it is a forum of different opinions though and you knew you would get criticism before you started but the interest you got outweighed it i hope
Hi, opposing opinions is not a problem as every person has their own, and criticism towards us is like water off a ducks back, and like you said I was expecting some.
What I can't understand are the people who take things so personally that they feel it's okay to send abusive, vile messages and then bravely block us so we can't reply. There is no place for that sort of thing on here.
Anyway, yes the interest did outweigh everything else so it has worked its purpose. " don't let the judgemental folk put you off living your life how you wish. Wr hope you have reported those who have sent you vile abusive messages.
This has been an absoloutely great filter for blocking out people who we wouldn't wish to meet. Can't stand people who put others down. Absoloutely no need, at all. | |||
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"Absolutely up to the people involved. It's not my thing at all but it's up to others. My only worry is that people seem to ignore or dont realise the fact that you can catch stis even with a condom "I've told them so many times i just can't do it anymore | |||
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"I know the risks but love bareback, although not at a club" Debenham’s then?  | |||
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"I like this post. Helpful. I've blocked all their veris for a start "Best to not block and use the notes facility. That way u can see who the up to date veris are if they message u. Tho that can turn into a full time job if you do veris if veris. Which club is this OP? Interested to know which club is promoting risky play. | |||
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"Jeez!! Why post on a post if your not interested in it? "I posted my opinion and was merely saying about the unknown/unspoken thing of stis. I wasnt being difficult  | |||
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"How will you remove derogatory posts ?with an eraser
Well not with a rubber, obviously. " that was funny
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"Apologies for the typos lol out walking my dogs while typing lol" Hahaha! Not judging here but I was just pointing out that sometimes things are unknown xx | |||
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"Most of you that are preaching about I value my health, clearly don't value it enough to take yourself down the gym But you can't catch obesity from a meet "Sperm can make you fat though. | |||
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"Apologies for the typos lol out walking my dogs while typing lol Hahaha! Not judging here but I was just pointing out that sometimes things are unknown xx" unknown yes I totally agree...but folk are on here for their own kinks. | |||
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"Most of you that are preaching about I value my health, clearly don't value it enough to take yourself down the gym " Hahaha good point... In a way  | |||
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"I know the risks but love bareback, although not at a club" It’s the easiest thing in the world to stand in judgement of others, personal preference is exactly that; however, and this is a genuine question, given the prevalence of STI’s and the impact of HIV (I know someone personally who lives with his diagnosis and it’s daily impacts), “why?” would anyone take the risk of unprotected sex with another who is happy to have bareback with multiple partners? Clearly I’m missing something, so what’s the upside? | |||
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"I know the risks but love bareback, although not at a club It’s the easiest thing in the world to stand in judgement of others, personal preference is exactly that; however, and this is a genuine question, given the prevalence of STI’s and the impact of HIV (I know someone personally who lives with his diagnosis and it’s daily impacts), “why?” would anyone take the risk of unprotected sex with another who is happy to have bareback with multiple partners? Clearly I’m missing something, so what’s the upside? " Some people enjoy risk. | |||
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"Added point regarding std, sti etc... so many are moral about not having bareback sex yet perform blow jobs without protection.... just me or bit bizarre? Discuss..." many have said it before you and on different days, different threads and different years but it goes on deaf ears | |||
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"Most of you that are preaching about I value my health, clearly don't value it enough to take yourself down the gym But you can't catch obesity from a meet
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"Such a paradox that lot of people who gave OP a meet veri, state "safe sex" in their profiles... Are they? I didn't get chance to check before blocking them.... x N" Are 'we' blocking just incase 'we' catch anything via exchanging of messages? *scratches head* do you grill everybody you meet on/off this site before you play? Seems bizarre and a waste of time to block tbh! Its this site that makes people more judgemental - just because the information is their to read! Clubs, parties, events, you're less likely too. | |||
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"Such a paradox that lot of people who gave OP a meet veri, state "safe sex" in their profiles... Are they? I didn't get chance to check before blocking them.... x N Are 'we' blocking just incase 'we' catch anything via exchanging of messages? *scratches head* do you grill everybody you meet on/off this site before you play? Seems bizarre and a waste of time to block tbh! Its this site that makes people more judgemental - just because the information is their to read! Clubs, parties, events, you're less likely too. " i think people just love saying 'blocked' its got a ring to it | |||
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"Such a paradox that lot of people who gave OP a meet veri, state "safe sex" in their profiles... Are they? I didn't get chance to check before blocking them.... x N Are 'we' blocking just incase 'we' catch anything via exchanging of messages? *scratches head* do you grill everybody you meet on/off this site before you play? Seems bizarre and a waste of time to block tbh! Its this site that makes people more judgemental - just because the information is their to read! Clubs, parties, events, you're less likely too. i think people just love saying 'blocked' its got a ring to it " | |||
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"Barebackers keeping in own groups in private parties is one thing, but openly in club noooo. Also profiles that state safe sex yet bareback - please don't mix it up like this. Noone has mentioned added risk to females, variations of sperm and cervical cancer risk increases "Very good point as males are carriers of HPV which can lead to cervical cancer if not caught. | |||
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"Barebackers keeping in own groups in private parties is one thing, but openly in club noooo. Also profiles that state safe sex yet bareback - please don't mix it up like this. Noone has mentioned added risk to females, variations of sperm and cervical cancer risk increases
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"Barebackers keeping in own groups in private parties is one thing, but openly in club noooo. Also profiles that state safe sex yet bareback - please don't mix it up like this. Noone has mentioned added risk to females, variations of sperm and cervical cancer risk increases
Very good point as males are carriers of HPV which can lead to cervical cancer if not caught. HPV can be transferred by close contact skin to skin "Not just cervix and HPV risk though - Researchers from the Medical Research Council's Human Reproductive Sciences Unit at The University of Edinburgh have found that that the high concentration of prostaglandin in semen makes other diseases of the female reproductive organs worse -- including uterine cancer. | |||
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"Well, it's nice to see that so many people want to judge and berate things that we, and plenty of others, enjoy doing. It is also nice to know that we have received more private messages showing an interest in our night than there has been negative comments on here. We only have one question for the 'I value my health' crowd - how many of you use a condom or dental dam when performing oral sex? According to the NHS website, oral sex is one of the most common says STI's are passed on, such as Chlamydia, herpes, genital warts, gonrrhoea, hepatitis A, B and C, HIV and syphilis. So you are therefore just as much at risk as us! Our original post did say this isn't for everybody and to move on if it wasn't, just goes to show that some people aren't happy unless they are judging others. Many thanks to all the posters on this thread that been respectful with any comments they have made. The swinging scene is about being yourself, enjoying yourself and not being judged for it. If you don't like what someone else does then fine, don't meet that person, let them do what they want to do and you carry on doing what you want to! " sorry but the old excuse that oral without protection is just as risky as bareback is completely wrong. As it's not. Yes you can catch things but much much less likely. I dont mind what others do. My comment was purely that I dont know any club that would promote a bb event x | |||
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"Most of you that are preaching about I value my health, clearly don't value it enough to take yourself down the gym But you can't catch obesity from a meet
Sperm can make you fat though.
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" Many thanks to all the posters on this thread that been respectful with any comments they have made. The swinging scene is about being yourself, enjoying yourself and not being judged for it. If you don't like what someone else does then fine, don't meet that person, let them do what they want to do and you carry on doing what you want to! Firstly, There is a risk of passing STIs/STDs through unprotected oral sex, but it’s a lesser risk than penetrative sex. Secondly, you’ve taken the information off the nhs website out of context. It’s not that STIs/STDs are COMMONLY PASSED through oral sex. If you reread what it says on the website, it actually states; ‘The MOST COMMON STIs that can be passed on through oral sex include: herpes gonorrhoea syphilis Other STIs that are passed on less commonly through oral sex include: chlamydia genital warts hepatitis A hepatitis B hepatitis C HIV pubic lice It’s up to you whether you and others have bareback sex or not. It’s not something we do with strangers. I commend you and others whom state it clearly on their profile, thus giving others an informed decision. Just make sure that everyone knows the correct information about the risks before proceeding. J " I wasnt trying to say there was as much as a risk, I was just trying to say that the risk is still there. Some people have been saying that because we play bareback that this could to a risk to them however miniscule. I was just trying to point out that they are still putting themselves at risk. | |||
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" Many thanks to all the posters on this thread that been respectful with any comments they have made. The swinging scene is about being yourself, enjoying yourself and not being judged for it. If you don't like what someone else does then fine, don't meet that person, let them do what they want to do and you carry on doing what you want to! Firstly, There is a risk of passing STIs/STDs through unprotected oral sex, but it’s a lesser risk than penetrative sex. Secondly, you’ve taken the information off the nhs website out of context. It’s not that STIs/STDs are COMMONLY PASSED through oral sex. If you reread what it says on the website, it actually states; ‘The MOST COMMON STIs that can be passed on through oral sex include: herpes gonorrhoea syphilis Other STIs that are passed on less commonly through oral sex include: chlamydia genital warts hepatitis A hepatitis B hepatitis C HIV pubic lice It’s up to you whether you and others have bareback sex or not. It’s not something we do with strangers. I commend you and others whom state it clearly on their profile, thus giving others an informed decision. Just make sure that everyone knows the correct information about the risks before proceeding. J I wasnt trying to say there was as much as a risk, I was just trying to say that the risk is still there. Some people have been saying that because we play bareback that this could to a risk to them however miniscule. I was just trying to point out that they are still putting themselves at risk." any sex is a risk. But its very small risk for oral without protection. | |||
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"Sounds like a clipboard and a box ticking time! Questionnaires will be the next thing we see down at the clubs - right beside the tub of condoms at the bar!
And the willy dip/fanny splash bowl of dettol on the way in. "I had my first club visit last week - I did wonder what that bowl was for.... | |||
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" Many thanks to all the posters on this thread that been respectful with any comments they have made. The swinging scene is about being yourself, enjoying yourself and not being judged for it. If you don't like what someone else does then fine, don't meet that person, let them do what they want to do and you carry on doing what you want to! Firstly, There is a risk of passing STIs/STDs through unprotected oral sex, but it’s a lesser risk than penetrative sex. Secondly, you’ve taken the information off the nhs website out of context. It’s not that STIs/STDs are COMMONLY PASSED through oral sex. If you reread what it says on the website, it actually states; ‘The MOST COMMON STIs that can be passed on through oral sex include: herpes gonorrhoea syphilis Other STIs that are passed on less commonly through oral sex include: chlamydia genital warts hepatitis A hepatitis B hepatitis C HIV pubic lice It’s up to you whether you and others have bareback sex or not. It’s not something we do with strangers. I commend you and others whom state it clearly on their profile, thus giving others an informed decision. Just make sure that everyone knows the correct information about the risks before proceeding. J I wasnt trying to say there was as much as a risk, I was just trying to say that the risk is still there. Some people have been saying that because we play bareback that this could to a risk to them however miniscule. I was just trying to point out that they are still putting themselves at risk. any sex is a risk. But its very small risk for oral without protection. " Depends how you are classifying the risk. In terms of severity of impact, you are far less likely to catch any of the "big nasties" such as HIV. However you can catch HPV via oral sex which while it can be harmless it can increase your risk of a number of cancers, particularly cervical cancer. However in terms of likelihood of transmission, gonorrhea is very transmissible by oral sex. | |||
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" Many thanks to all the posters on this thread that been respectful with any comments they have made. The swinging scene is about being yourself, enjoying yourself and not being judged for it. If you don't like what someone else does then fine, don't meet that person, let them do what they want to do and you carry on doing what you want to! Firstly, There is a risk of passing STIs/STDs through unprotected oral sex, but it’s a lesser risk than penetrative sex. Secondly, you’ve taken the information off the nhs website out of context. It’s not that STIs/STDs are COMMONLY PASSED through oral sex. If you reread what it says on the website, it actually states; ‘The MOST COMMON STIs that can be passed on through oral sex include: herpes gonorrhoea syphilis Other STIs that are passed on less commonly through oral sex include: chlamydia genital warts hepatitis A hepatitis B hepatitis C HIV pubic lice It’s up to you whether you and others have bareback sex or not. It’s not something we do with strangers. I commend you and others whom state it clearly on their profile, thus giving others an informed decision. Just make sure that everyone knows the correct information about the risks before proceeding. J I wasnt trying to say there was as much as a risk, I was just trying to say that the risk is still there. Some people have been saying that because we play bareback that this could to a risk to them however miniscule. I was just trying to point out that they are still putting themselves at risk. any sex is a risk. But its very small risk for oral without protection. Depends how you are classifying the risk. In terms of severity of impact, you are far less likely to catch any of the "big nasties" such as HIV. However you can catch HPV via oral sex which while it can be harmless it can increase your risk of a number of cancers, particularly cervical cancer. However in terms of likelihood of transmission, gonorrhea is very transmissible by oral sex. " Women are taking the biggest risk PREP drug doesn't protect for cancer | |||
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"Sounds like a clipboard and a box ticking time! Questionnaires will be the next thing we see down at the clubs - right beside the tub of condoms at the bar!
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"Sounds like a clipboard and a box ticking time! Questionnaires will be the next thing we see down at the clubs - right beside the tub of condoms at the bar!
And the willy dip/fanny splash bowl of dettol on the way in.
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" And the willy dip/fanny splash bowl of dettol on the way in. Shit! I thought it was mouth wash!! "At least if you thought it was mouthwash you spat it out. I thought it was a free shot and swallowed it. | |||
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" And the willy dip/fanny splash bowl of dettol on the way in. Shit! I thought it was mouth wash!!
At least if you thought it was mouthwash you spat it out. I thought it was a free shot and swallowed it. "Don't suppose that's the worst thing you've ever swallowed either, eh Sal?
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"I’ll probably get banned for this but it has to be said...... A lot of people on this forum are totally hypocrites.... I remember a club promoting a Herpes night , and everyone was saying this was great idea.. it would be sex positive event and would not stigmatize people with Herpes ... Now the Op post for a bareback party at a club with no one confirmed as having any sti’s And people are now ready to burn down the club... Plus have the Op drawn and quartered for even suggesting this party... I have read numerous post from people with mental health problems, too fat , too skinny , too old , too young , too ugly.... and people always give support plus positive advice..... Why isn’t the Op afforded the same courtesy?" Think everyone is just concerned tbh, unless they are all locked away after testing and retested after incubation period with no physical contact inbetween then how is sti free guaranteed. Some take PREP drug for their own protection but niave people probably don't, plus this drug has limited protection and as I commented earlier women are at much higher risk due to exposure to different sperms not just sti, hpv, hiv | |||
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"Ease up guys. Maybe OP got their spelling wrong. Perhaps they meant BEARback! A special night for people with hairy backs! Honestly, you are a cruel knee-jerk bunch on Fab. "I prefer side saddle anyway, cos I'm a laideeee. | |||
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"Ease up guys. Maybe OP got their spelling wrong. Perhaps they meant BEARback! A special night for people with hairy backs! Honestly, you are a cruel knee-jerk bunch on Fab. "Bearback? I'm in!
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"No need for a lot of the comments. We understand bareback isn't for most of us (incl us) but we really don't see the need to make other people feel bad and feel judged for how they choose to play. They are being upfront and honest, which is more than can be said for a lot of people on this site. " This ! | |||
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"Bareback isn’t for us all but who are we to judge, least they’re honest! Obesity, alcohol, drugs etc can damaging to your health too but I reckon there’s a fair few of you negatively commenting that are obese or use/take drugs and or alcohol
Lifestyle choice yes the point is will all of them be up to date tested?
It’s funny , people who live in countries where’s they are so poor that it’s impossible to overeat , never get fat from gland problems .
If you burn more calories than you take in , you will lose weight.
Why would you willing put your health at risk?
Drugs I have not and will not take personal choice seen to much crap and what it does to decent human beings. On the subject of alcohol again own personal choice if we want to have a drink or not.
Now people who are obese have you given any thought that they might have a gland problem and nothing to do with over eating?
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"As per usual, some of those that are opposed to BB feel the need to scream it from the rooftops as being dangerous and everything else. We don't participate in it but would defend the rights of those that do as its a free world. Some of you on here need to get a grip. " Well said | |||
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"I’ll probably get banned for this but it has to be said...... A lot of people on this forum are totally hypocrites.... I remember a club promoting a Herpes night , and everyone was saying this was great idea.. it would be sex positive event and would not stigmatize people with Herpes ... Now the Op post for a bareback party at a club with no one confirmed as having any sti’s And people are now ready to burn down the club... Plus have the Op drawn and quartered for even suggesting this party... I have read numerous post from people with mental health problems, too fat , too skinny , too old , too young , too ugly.... and people always give support plus positive advice..... Why isn’t the Op afforded the same courtesy? Think everyone is just concerned tbh, unless they are all locked away after testing and retested after incubation period with no physical contact inbetween then how is sti free guaranteed. Some take PREP drug for their own protection but niave people probably don't, plus this drug has limited protection and as I commented earlier women are at much higher risk due to exposure to different sperms not just sti, hpv, hiv "Fuck me , pretty much everything in this lamer can give you cancer ! Having sex , not having sex , eating veg / not eating veg etc etc . What if your husbands sperm is high in prostaglandin ? Should everyone stop having children , in case sperm gives them cancer ? | |||
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"Not for me BUT I do appreciate what you're trying to do. I would try and get all the people who go to get tested 1 week before the event and then at least you can hopefully minimise things getting spread. Having unprotected sex or breeding is a fetish so you could probably advertise it as a breeding party but you'd have to hire the club and say its a private party to not get the club a bad reputation. In response to people saying you can't catch obesity some people like being fat FYI and if we were all skinny judgemental bitches the world would be a much worse place than somewhere full of fat people
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"Not for me BUT I do appreciate what you're trying to do. I would try and get all the people who go to get tested 1 week before the event and then at least you can hopefully minimise things getting spread. Having unprotected sex or breeding is a fetish so you could probably advertise it as a breeding party but you'd have to hire the club and say its a private party to not get the club a bad reputation. In response to people saying you can't catch obesity some people like being fat FYI and if we were all skinny judgemental bitches the world would be a much worse place than somewhere full of fat people
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"Why are there antibiotic resistant strains of gonorrhea? Is it because of all the people who practice safe sex? Or is it the people who don't give a damn whether they get a dose of the clap because they'll just take some antibiotics and carry on? " I think you may find it's more to do with our food chain, natural evolution of bacteria and lack of research due to under funding. | |||
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"Why are there antibiotic resistant strains of gonorrhea? Is it because of all the people who practice safe sex? Or is it the people who don't give a damn whether they get a dose of the clap because they'll just take some antibiotics and carry on? " I have no idea but you seem to have all the answers | |||
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"Why are there antibiotic resistant strains of gonorrhea? Is it because of all the people who practice safe sex? Or is it the people who don't give a damn whether they get a dose of the clap because they'll just take some antibiotics and carry on? I think you may find it's more to do with our food chain, natural evolution of bacteria and lack of research due to under funding." Ok let me put it to do in a different manner. Let's for arguments sake imagine that every single person on the planet used protection on every occasion and people with incurable STDs took them to the grave with them. How long would solely sexually transmitted deseases be in existence? We need to use protection today only because people in the past refused to use it. Please don't tell me that your barebacking has nothing to do with other swingers because actually your barebacking puts the rest of us at risk. (Broken condoms etc etc) | |||
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"Why are there antibiotic resistant strains of gonorrhea? Is it because of all the people who practice safe sex? Or is it the people who don't give a damn whether they get a dose of the clap because they'll just take some antibiotics and carry on? I think you may find it's more to do with our food chain, natural evolution of bacteria and lack of research due to under funding." You're saying that diseases develop resistance to drugs in people that aren't infected with those diseases? | |||
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"Why are there antibiotic resistant strains of gonorrhea? Is it because of all the people who practice safe sex? Or is it the people who don't give a damn whether they get a dose of the clap because they'll just take some antibiotics and carry on? I think you may find it's more to do with our food chain, natural evolution of bacteria and lack of research due to under funding. You're saying that diseases develop resistance to drugs in people that aren't infected with those diseases?" It's possible yes. Diseases can mutate and become resistant to antibiotics. If you get a strain that is resistant itll be a struggle to treat it, it doesn't matter if you've never had that disease before | |||
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"Why are there antibiotic resistant strains of gonorrhea? Is it because of all the people who practice safe sex? Or is it the people who don't give a damn whether they get a dose of the clap because they'll just take some antibiotics and carry on? I think you may find it's more to do with our food chain, natural evolution of bacteria and lack of research due to under funding. Ok let me put it to do in a different manner. Let's for arguments sake imagine that every single person on the planet used protection on every occasion and people with incurable STDs took them to the grave with them. How long would solely sexually transmitted deseases be in existence? We need to use protection today only because people in the past refused to use it. Please don't tell me that your barebacking has nothing to do with other swingers because actually your barebacking puts the rest of us at risk. (Broken condoms etc etc)" I know an excellent microbiologist and I’m texting him as we speak to see if your hypothesis is indeed a valid one | |||
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"Why are there antibiotic resistant strains of gonorrhea? Is it because of all the people who practice safe sex? Or is it the people who don't give a damn whether they get a dose of the clap because they'll just take some antibiotics and carry on? I think you may find it's more to do with our food chain, natural evolution of bacteria and lack of research due to under funding. You're saying that diseases develop resistance to drugs in people that aren't infected with those diseases? It's possible yes. Diseases can mutate and become resistant to antibiotics. If you get a strain that is resistant itll be a struggle to treat it, it doesn't matter if you've never had that disease before" I am talking about how those deseases became resistant in the first place. If evolution is the opposite of extinction then I don't understand how these diseases can develop an immunity to antibiotics when they haven't had repeated exposure to antibiotics. On the other end of the scale these diseases would be extinct if everyone used protection, much less have evolved. | |||
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"Why are there antibiotic resistant strains of gonorrhea? Is it because of all the people who practice safe sex? Or is it the people who don't give a damn whether they get a dose of the clap because they'll just take some antibiotics and carry on? I think you may find it's more to do with our food chain, natural evolution of bacteria and lack of research due to under funding. You're saying that diseases develop resistance to drugs in people that aren't infected with those diseases? It's possible yes. Diseases can mutate and become resistant to antibiotics. If you get a strain that is resistant itll be a struggle to treat it, it doesn't matter if you've never had that disease before I am talking about how those deseases became resistant in the first place. If evolution is the opposite of extinction then I don't understand how these diseases can develop an immunity to antibiotics when they haven't had repeated exposure to antibiotics. On the other end of the scale these diseases would be extinct if everyone used protection, much less have evolved. " The more diseases are exposed to antibiotics the more chance there is it will mutate and become resistant. It's the same with the flu its mutated constantly hence why they have to change the flu jab every year. If it didn't mutate you could just get 1 flu jab and be protected year after year | |||
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"Why are there antibiotic resistant strains of gonorrhea? Is it because of all the people who practice safe sex? Or is it the people who don't give a damn whether they get a dose of the clap because they'll just take some antibiotics and carry on? I think you may find it's more to do with our food chain, natural evolution of bacteria and lack of research due to under funding. Ok let me put it to do in a different manner. Let's for arguments sake imagine that every single person on the planet used protection on every occasion and people with incurable STDs took them to the grave with them. How long would solely sexually transmitted deseases be in existence? We need to use protection today only because people in the past refused to use it. Please don't tell me that your barebacking has nothing to do with other swingers because actually your barebacking puts the rest of us at risk. (Broken condoms etc etc) I know an excellent microbiologist and I’m texting him as we speak to see if your hypothesis is indeed a valid one "While you're at it ask whether you have more chance of catching and STD through a condom or bareback in the vagina of a woman who has cocktail of other mens cum. My hypothesis is based on the fact that I have had penetrative sex with over 100 different female partners and oral sex with at least 3 times as many. My partner and I are tested regularly and have never come up positive despite the fact that I had sex with people whose tests have come back positive. I may not be a microbiologist but my maths is pretty decent when it comes to working out the odds. | |||
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"Why are there antibiotic resistant strains of gonorrhea? Is it because of all the people who practice safe sex? Or is it the people who don't give a damn whether they get a dose of the clap because they'll just take some antibiotics and carry on? I think you may find it's more to do with our food chain, natural evolution of bacteria and lack of research due to under funding. Ok let me put it to do in a different manner. Let's for arguments sake imagine that every single person on the planet used protection on every occasion and people with incurable STDs took them to the grave with them. How long would solely sexually transmitted deseases be in existence? We need to use protection today only because people in the past refused to use it. Please don't tell me that your barebacking has nothing to do with other swingers because actually your barebacking puts the rest of us at risk. (Broken condoms etc etc)" Excuse me, don't be so judgemental. I don't bareback and practise safe sex where appropriate and it's none of your business what people choose to do. Your obviously badly informed and making rash judgements and statements not based on any facts. | |||
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"Why are there antibiotic resistant strains of gonorrhea? Is it because of all the people who practice safe sex? Or is it the people who don't give a damn whether they get a dose of the clap because they'll just take some antibiotics and carry on? I think you may find it's more to do with our food chain, natural evolution of bacteria and lack of research due to under funding. You're saying that diseases develop resistance to drugs in people that aren't infected with those diseases? It's possible yes. Diseases can mutate and become resistant to antibiotics. If you get a strain that is resistant itll be a struggle to treat it, it doesn't matter if you've never had that disease before I am talking about how those deseases became resistant in the first place. If evolution is the opposite of extinction then I don't understand how these diseases can develop an immunity to antibiotics when they haven't had repeated exposure to antibiotics. On the other end of the scale these diseases would be extinct if everyone used protection, much less have evolved. The more diseases are exposed to antibiotics the more chance there is it will mutate and become resistant. It's the same with the flu its mutated constantly hence why they have to change the flu jab every year. If it didn't mutate you could just get 1 flu jab and be protected year after year " Therefore the more people get STDs and are treated with antibiotics the more they mutate? Using your analogy of the flu, if everyone stayed indoors and humans never crossed paths, not only would flu not mutate it would die out. Humans never interacting is an impossible scenario whereas humans using protection is not just practicable it makes logical sense. I am not judging barebackers. I am just saying they cannot say their behaviour has nothing to do with me. The reason I need to be tested is because of them and the reason I and at risk when accidents do happen is because of them. So I respectfully don't agree. | |||
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"Why are there antibiotic resistant strains of gonorrhea? Is it because of all the people who practice safe sex? Or is it the people who don't give a damn whether they get a dose of the clap because they'll just take some antibiotics and carry on? I think you may find it's more to do with our food chain, natural evolution of bacteria and lack of research due to under funding. You're saying that diseases develop resistance to drugs in people that aren't infected with those diseases? It's possible yes. Diseases can mutate and become resistant to antibiotics. If you get a strain that is resistant itll be a struggle to treat it, it doesn't matter if you've never had that disease before I am talking about how those deseases became resistant in the first place. If evolution is the opposite of extinction then I don't understand how these diseases can develop an immunity to antibiotics when they haven't had repeated exposure to antibiotics. On the other end of the scale these diseases would be extinct if everyone used protection, much less have evolved. The more diseases are exposed to antibiotics the more chance there is it will mutate and become resistant. It's the same with the flu its mutated constantly hence why they have to change the flu jab every year. If it didn't mutate you could just get 1 flu jab and be protected year after year Therefore the more people get STDs and are treated with antibiotics the more they mutate? Using your analogy of the flu, if everyone stayed indoors and humans never crossed paths, not only would flu not mutate it would die out. Humans never interacting is an impossible scenario whereas humans using protection is not just practicable it makes logical sense. I am not judging barebackers. I am just saying they cannot say their behaviour has nothing to do with me. The reason I need to be tested is because of them and the reason I and at risk when accidents do happen is because of them. So I respectfully don't agree." I used the flu has an example of infections mutating that's all. Any infection has the possibility of becoming resistant to antibiotics whether you agree or not | |||
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"Why are there antibiotic resistant strains of gonorrhea? Is it because of all the people who practice safe sex? Or is it the people who don't give a damn whether they get a dose of the clap because they'll just take some antibiotics and carry on? I think you may find it's more to do with our food chain, natural evolution of bacteria and lack of research due to under funding. You're saying that diseases develop resistance to drugs in people that aren't infected with those diseases? It's possible yes. Diseases can mutate and become resistant to antibiotics. If you get a strain that is resistant itll be a struggle to treat it, it doesn't matter if you've never had that disease before I am talking about how those deseases became resistant in the first place. If evolution is the opposite of extinction then I don't understand how these diseases can develop an immunity to antibiotics when they haven't had repeated exposure to antibiotics. On the other end of the scale these diseases would be extinct if everyone used protection, much less have evolved. The more diseases are exposed to antibiotics the more chance there is it will mutate and become resistant. It's the same with the flu its mutated constantly hence why they have to change the flu jab every year. If it didn't mutate you could just get 1 flu jab and be protected year after year Therefore the more people get STDs and are treated with antibiotics the more they mutate? Using your analogy of the flu, if everyone stayed indoors and humans never crossed paths, not only would flu not mutate it would die out. Humans never interacting is an impossible scenario whereas humans using protection is not just practicable it makes logical sense. I am not judging barebackers. I am just saying they cannot say their behaviour has nothing to do with me. The reason I need to be tested is because of them and the reason I and at risk when accidents do happen is because of them. So I respectfully don't agree. I used the flu has an example of infections mutating that's all. Any infection has the possibility of becoming resistant to antibiotics whether you agree or not " And I have continued that example. Neither STDs nor influenza can flourish spread or mutate in isolation. And that's what condoms do by and large, they isolate. | |||
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