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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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I'm fairly sure they've been up to the same tricks here.
Spreading stuff on social media designed to whip up xenophobia, racism etc.
I recall an image that went viral from the aftermath of that nutter who was shot outside Parliament.
Showing a lady in traditional Arab dress in the foreground on her mobile phone while people attended to the stabbed copper in the background.
The caption implied she could not care less.
It was traced to a fake account in Texas set up by a Russian.
Then there's the whole authenticity of some of the stuff during the Brexit referendum.
It seems to be a concerted attempt to destabilise the west by driving countries towards more extreme outcomes.
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over a year ago
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Former Mossad chief Tamir Pardo said Monday that Russia deployed tens of thousands of bots to influence the 2016 U.S. elections in favor of Donald Trump.
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I blame my own government for the last 50 years of wilful treason against their own people, no Russian bots were needed in creating this mess, we've been sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years.
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
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"I blame my own government for the last 50 years of wilful treason against their own people, no Russian bots were needed in creating this mess, we've been sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years.
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"Sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years"
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"I blame my own government for the last 50 years of wilful treason against their own people, no Russian bots were needed in creating this mess, we've been sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years.
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Agreed, 50+ years of phony government and self serving bastard politicians. All the Russians had to do is sit back an laugh at us. After all, they survived communism and have gone on to survive its fall. Now they see a people who voted for independence only to watch it ruined by a bunch of incompetent clowns... |
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"I blame my own government for the last 50 years of wilful treason against their own people, no Russian bots were needed in creating this mess, we've been sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years.
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Who has been fighting whom, and for what?
Pray tell.. |
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
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"I blame my own government for the last 50 years of wilful treason against their own people, no Russian bots were needed in creating this mess, we've been sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years.
Agreed, 50+ years of phony government and self serving bastard politicians. All the Russians had to do is sit back an laugh at us. After all, they survived communism and have gone on to survive its fall. Now they see a people who voted for independence only to watch it ruined by a bunch of incompetent clowns..."
You are all about "surviving" aren't you?
That seems to be your fondest dream for anyone. To "survive". Nothing more, yet you call remainers negative.
We have been independent for hundreds of years. Working together in any team requires compromises to achieve greater things. We didn't vote for independence in 2016, we voted to be alone and less influential and poorer.
As if leaving the EU is going to improve British politics. We'll just be fighting over less.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"They are all as bad as each other playing silly spy games "
Do you actually ever add anything of worth to any of these threads?
Granted this is better than your, "it'll a be alright" usual post! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I blame my own government for the last 50 years of wilful treason against their own people, no Russian bots were needed in creating this mess, we've been sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years.
"Sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years"
Meaning what? Sounds ike tilting at windmills to me "
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You wouldn't understand But many others reading it will. |
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"I blame my own government for the last 50 years of wilful treason against their own people, no Russian bots were needed in creating this mess, we've been sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years.
"Sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years"
Meaning what? Sounds ike tilting at windmills to me .
You wouldn't understand But many others reading it will."
That you believe that those who share your thoughts have the capacity to read is endearing..
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I blame my own government for the last 50 years of wilful treason against their own people, no Russian bots were needed in creating this mess, we've been sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years.
Agreed, 50+ years of phony government and self serving bastard politicians. All the Russians had to do is sit back an laugh at us. After all, they survived communism and have gone on to survive its fall. Now they see a people who voted for independence only to watch it ruined by a bunch of incompetent clowns...
You are all about "surviving" aren't you?
That seems to be your fondest dream for anyone. To "survive". Nothing more, yet you call remainers negative.
We have been independent for hundreds of years. Working together in any team requires compromises to achieve greater things. We didn't vote for independence in 2016, we voted to be alone and less influential and poorer.
As if leaving the EU is going to improve British politics. We'll just be fighting over less.
#Brexitwin "
Survival is the start, our independence will see us start to win again. We will be allowed to win against the Krouts and the Frogs, and we will... |
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"I blame my own government for the last 50 years of wilful treason against their own people, no Russian bots were needed in creating this mess, we've been sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years.
Agreed, 50+ years of phony government and self serving bastard politicians. All the Russians had to do is sit back an laugh at us. After all, they survived communism and have gone on to survive its fall. Now they see a people who voted for independence only to watch it ruined by a bunch of incompetent clowns...
You are all about "surviving" aren't you?
That seems to be your fondest dream for anyone. To "survive". Nothing more, yet you call remainers negative.
We have been independent for hundreds of years. Working together in any team requires compromises to achieve greater things. We didn't vote for independence in 2016, we voted to be alone and less influential and poorer.
As if leaving the EU is going to improve British politics. We'll just be fighting over less.
#Brexitwin
Survival is the start, our independence will see us start to win again. We will be allowed to win against the Krouts and the Frogs, and we will..."
Yes private pike..
Btw it's not krouts.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I blame my own government for the last 50 years of wilful treason against their own people, no Russian bots were needed in creating this mess, we've been sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years.
"Sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years"
Meaning what? Sounds ike tilting at windmills to me .
You wouldn't understand But many others reading it will.
That you believe that those who share your thoughts have the capacity to read is endearing..
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Hahahaha your hilarious, alas maybe you could share my thoughts seen as you know who I mean and what I'm saying?.
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"I blame my own government for the last 50 years of wilful treason against their own people, no Russian bots were needed in creating this mess, we've been sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years.
"Sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years"
Meaning what? Sounds ike tilting at windmills to me .
You wouldn't understand But many others reading it will.
That you believe that those who share your thoughts have the capacity to read is endearing..
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Hahahaha your hilarious, alas maybe you could share my thoughts seen as you know who I mean and what I'm saying?.
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Mind reading?
Not my forte, not with those of high intelligence or those whose knuckles drag as they walk..
What does your fighting for our homeland mean, whom and against who is fighting?
Is it gaming? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I blame my own government for the last 50 years of wilful treason against their own people, no Russian bots were needed in creating this mess, we've been sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years.
"Sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years"
Meaning what? Sounds ike tilting at windmills to me .
You wouldn't understand But many others reading it will.
That you believe that those who share your thoughts have the capacity to read is endearing..
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Hahahaha your hilarious, alas maybe you could share my thoughts seen as you know who I mean and what I'm saying?.
Mind reading?
Not my forte, not with those of high intelligence or those whose knuckles drag as they walk..
What does your fighting for our homeland mean, whom and against who is fighting?
Is it gaming? "
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So it's not obvious to you that England has fought various nations for 2000 years for a homeland?.
The only difference between you and I is I considering England a home and you consider it a business. |
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
West London |
The thread is actually a question about if Russia is actively trying to politically influence and disrupt its rivals.
Many on this claimed on this forum that it is all lies and fake news.
Do they still believe that?
I'm not interested in any relative discussions about what the west do or have done. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I blame my own government for the last 50 years of wilful treason against their own people, no Russian bots were needed in creating this mess, we've been sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years.
"Sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years"
Meaning what? Sounds ike tilting at windmills to me .
You wouldn't understand But many others reading it will.
That you believe that those who share your thoughts have the capacity to read is endearing..
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Hahahaha your hilarious, alas maybe you could share my thoughts seen as you know who I mean and what I'm saying?.
Mind reading?
Not my forte, not with those of high intelligence or those whose knuckles drag as they walk..
What does your fighting for our homeland mean, whom and against who is fighting?
Is it gaming? .
So it's not obvious to you that England has fought various nations for 2000 years for a homeland?.
The only difference between you and I is I considering England a home and you consider it a business."
So you have to defend it? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The thread is actually a question about if Russia is actively trying to politically influence and disrupt its rivals.
Many on this claimed on this forum that it is all lies and fake news.
Do they still believe that?
I'm not interested in any relative discussions about what the west do or have done."
No, not at all..it's clear to see if you look at data analysis of social media near brexit. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I blame my own government for the last 50 years of wilful treason against their own people, no Russian bots were needed in creating this mess, we've been sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years.
"Sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years"
Meaning what? Sounds ike tilting at windmills to me .
You wouldn't understand But many others reading it will.
That you believe that those who share your thoughts have the capacity to read is endearing..
.
Hahahaha your hilarious, alas maybe you could share my thoughts seen as you know who I mean and what I'm saying?.
Mind reading?
Not my forte, not with those of high intelligence or those whose knuckles drag as they walk..
What does your fighting for our homeland mean, whom and against who is fighting?
Is it gaming? .
So it's not obvious to you that England has fought various nations for 2000 years for a homeland?.
The only difference between you and I is I considering England a home and you consider it a business.
So you have to defend it? "
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No I don't have to do anything I could quite easily live out my life on easy Street, I choose to defend my home(country) like nearly everybody else would when faced with the consequences of the globalists agenda. |
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"I blame my own government for the last 50 years of wilful treason against their own people, no Russian bots were needed in creating this mess, we've been sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years.
"Sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years"
Meaning what? Sounds ike tilting at windmills to me .
You wouldn't understand But many others reading it will.
That you believe that those who share your thoughts have the capacity to read is endearing..
.
Hahahaha your hilarious, alas maybe you could share my thoughts seen as you know who I mean and what I'm saying?.
Mind reading?
Not my forte, not with those of high intelligence or those whose knuckles drag as they walk..
What does your fighting for our homeland mean, whom and against who is fighting?
Is it gaming? .
So it's not obvious to you that England has fought various nations for 2000 years for a homeland?.
The only difference between you and I is I considering England a home and you consider it a business.
So you have to defend it? .
No I don't have to do anything I could quite easily live out my life on easy Street, I choose to defend my home(country) like nearly everybody else would when faced with the consequences of the globalists agenda."
And how are you defending England exactly? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I blame my own government for the last 50 years of wilful treason against their own people, no Russian bots were needed in creating this mess, we've been sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years.
"Sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years"
Meaning what? Sounds ike tilting at windmills to me .
You wouldn't understand But many others reading it will.
That you believe that those who share your thoughts have the capacity to read is endearing..
.
Hahahaha your hilarious, alas maybe you could share my thoughts seen as you know who I mean and what I'm saying?.
Mind reading?
Not my forte, not with those of high intelligence or those whose knuckles drag as they walk..
What does your fighting for our homeland mean, whom and against who is fighting?
Is it gaming? .
So it's not obvious to you that England has fought various nations for 2000 years for a homeland?.
The only difference between you and I is I considering England a home and you consider it a business.
So you have to defend it? .
No I don't have to do anything I could quite easily live out my life on easy Street, I choose to defend my home(country) like nearly everybody else would when faced with the consequences of the globalists agenda.
And how are you defending England exactly?"
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I don't know how are you not defending it? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I blame my own government for the last 50 years of wilful treason against their own people, no Russian bots were needed in creating this mess, we've been sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years.
"Sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years"
Meaning what? Sounds ike tilting at windmills to me .
You wouldn't understand But many others reading it will.
That you believe that those who share your thoughts have the capacity to read is endearing..
.
Hahahaha your hilarious, alas maybe you could share my thoughts seen as you know who I mean and what I'm saying?.
Mind reading?
Not my forte, not with those of high intelligence or those whose knuckles drag as they walk..
What does your fighting for our homeland mean, whom and against who is fighting?
Is it gaming? .
So it's not obvious to you that England has fought various nations for 2000 years for a homeland?.
The only difference between you and I is I considering England a home and you consider it a business.
So you have to defend it? .
No I don't have to do anything I could quite easily live out my life on easy Street, I choose to defend my home(country) like nearly everybody else would when faced with the consequences of the globalists agenda.
And how are you defending England exactly?.
I don't know how are you not defending it?"
So no answer then!! Obviously just on the internet! |
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
West London |
"I blame my own government for the last 50 years of wilful treason against their own people, no Russian bots were needed in creating this mess, we've been sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years.
"Sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years"
Meaning what? Sounds ike tilting at windmills to me .
You wouldn't understand But many others reading it will.
That you believe that those who share your thoughts have the capacity to read is endearing..
.
Hahahaha your hilarious, alas maybe you could share my thoughts seen as you know who I mean and what I'm saying?.
Mind reading?
Not my forte, not with those of high intelligence or those whose knuckles drag as they walk..
What does your fighting for our homeland mean, whom and against who is fighting?
Is it gaming? .
So it's not obvious to you that England has fought various nations for 2000 years for a homeland?.
The only difference between you and I is I considering England a home and you consider it a business."
Whom?
The Romans who owned us?
The Scandinavians who owned us?
The French who owned us?
The Dutch who owned us?
All of who's DNA flows through you but less so me
Are you defending your "homeland" against people like me too?
Are you not able to evolve just a little and help others and work together to benefit everyone regardless of an arbitrary accident of birth?
Did Britain fight for an Empire thousands of miles away for a homeland?
Think a little harder.
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"I'm fairly sure they've been up to the same tricks here.
Spreading stuff on social media designed to whip up xenophobia, racism etc.
I recall an image that went viral from the aftermath of that nutter who was shot outside Parliament.
Showing a lady in traditional Arab dress in the foreground on her mobile phone while people attended to the stabbed copper in the background.
The caption implied she could not care less.
It was traced to a fake account in Texas set up by a Russian.
Then there's the whole authenticity of some of the stuff during the Brexit referendum.
It seems to be a concerted attempt to destabilise the west by driving countries towards more extreme outcomes.
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Well if this is true it shows just how stupid people are to be so easily duped.
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"I blame my own government for the last 50 years of wilful treason against their own people, no Russian bots were needed in creating this mess, we've been sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years.
"Sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years"
Meaning what? Sounds ike tilting at windmills to me .
You wouldn't understand But many others reading it will.
That you believe that those who share your thoughts have the capacity to read is endearing..
.
Hahahaha your hilarious, alas maybe you could share my thoughts seen as you know who I mean and what I'm saying?.
Mind reading?
Not my forte, not with those of high intelligence or those whose knuckles drag as they walk..
What does your fighting for our homeland mean, whom and against who is fighting?
Is it gaming? .
So it's not obvious to you that England has fought various nations for 2000 years for a homeland?.
The only difference between you and I is I considering England a home and you consider it a business.
So you have to defend it? .
No I don't have to do anything I could quite easily live out my life on easy Street, I choose to defend my home(country) like nearly everybody else would when faced with the consequences of the globalists agenda.
And how are you defending England exactly?"
By spouting bollocks I think.. |
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"I blame my own government for the last 50 years of wilful treason against their own people, no Russian bots were needed in creating this mess, we've been sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years.
"Sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years"
Meaning what? Sounds ike tilting at windmills to me .
You wouldn't understand But many others reading it will.
That you believe that those who share your thoughts have the capacity to read is endearing..
.
Hahahaha your hilarious, alas maybe you could share my thoughts seen as you know who I mean and what I'm saying?.
Mind reading?
Not my forte, not with those of high intelligence or those whose knuckles drag as they walk..
What does your fighting for our homeland mean, whom and against who is fighting?
Is it gaming? .
So it's not obvious to you that England has fought various nations for 2000 years for a homeland?.
The only difference between you and I is I considering England a home and you consider it a business."
What is obvious to me is you are talking nonsense in trying to give your vile little views some sort of credibility..
There is a world of difference between you and I, one is I am not full of bile and hatred and I'm good with that..
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"I blame my own government for the last 50 years of wilful treason against their own people, no Russian bots were needed in creating this mess, we've been sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years.
"Sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years"
Meaning what? Sounds ike tilting at windmills to me .
You wouldn't understand But many others reading it will.
That you believe that those who share your thoughts have the capacity to read is endearing..
.
Hahahaha your hilarious, alas maybe you could share my thoughts seen as you know who I mean and what I'm saying?.
Mind reading?
Not my forte, not with those of high intelligence or those whose knuckles drag as they walk..
What does your fighting for our homeland mean, whom and against who is fighting?
Is it gaming? .
So it's not obvious to you that England has fought various nations for 2000 years for a homeland?.
The only difference between you and I is I considering England a home and you consider it a business.
What is obvious to me is you are talking nonsense in trying to give your vile little views some sort of credibility..
There is a world of difference between you and I, one is I am not full of bile and hatred and I'm good with that..
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You do nothing all day except spout vile and hatred for brexiters, Tory's and whatever else floats your boat, hypocrisy is a very unflattering trait. |
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"I blame my own government for the last 50 years of wilful treason against their own people, no Russian bots were needed in creating this mess, we've been sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years.
"Sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years"
Meaning what? Sounds ike tilting at windmills to me .
You wouldn't understand But many others reading it will.
That you believe that those who share your thoughts have the capacity to read is endearing..
.
Hahahaha your hilarious, alas maybe you could share my thoughts seen as you know who I mean and what I'm saying?.
Mind reading?
Not my forte, not with those of high intelligence or those whose knuckles drag as they walk..
What does your fighting for our homeland mean, whom and against who is fighting?
Is it gaming? .
So it's not obvious to you that England has fought various nations for 2000 years for a homeland?.
The only difference between you and I is I considering England a home and you consider it a business.
What is obvious to me is you are talking nonsense in trying to give your vile little views some sort of credibility..
There is a world of difference between you and I, one is I am not full of bile and hatred and I'm good with that..
.
You do nothing all day except spout vile and hatred for brexiters, Tory's and whatever else floats your boat, hypocrisy is a very unflattering trait."
Stop lying there's a good lad..
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"I blame my own government for the last 50 years of wilful treason against their own people, no Russian bots were needed in creating this mess, we've been sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years.
"Sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years"
Meaning what? Sounds ike tilting at windmills to me .
You wouldn't understand But many others reading it will.
That you believe that those who share your thoughts have the capacity to read is endearing..
.
Hahahaha your hilarious, alas maybe you could share my thoughts seen as you know who I mean and what I'm saying?.
Mind reading?
Not my forte, not with those of high intelligence or those whose knuckles drag as they walk..
What does your fighting for our homeland mean, whom and against who is fighting?
Is it gaming? .
So it's not obvious to you that England has fought various nations for 2000 years for a homeland?.
The only difference between you and I is I considering England a home and you consider it a business.
What is obvious to me is you are talking nonsense in trying to give your vile little views some sort of credibility..
There is a world of difference between you and I, one is I am not full of bile and hatred and I'm good with that..
.
You do nothing all day except spout vile and hatred for brexiters, Tory's and whatever else floats your boat, hypocrisy is a very unflattering trait.
Stop lying there's a good lad..
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What lie did he tell in his last post? |
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
West London |
"I blame my own government for the last 50 years of wilful treason against their own people, no Russian bots were needed in creating this mess, we've been sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years.
"Sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years"
Meaning what? Sounds ike tilting at windmills to me .
You wouldn't understand But many others reading it will.
That you believe that those who share your thoughts have the capacity to read is endearing..
.
Hahahaha your hilarious, alas maybe you could share my thoughts seen as you know who I mean and what I'm saying?.
Mind reading?
Not my forte, not with those of high intelligence or those whose knuckles drag as they walk..
What does your fighting for our homeland mean, whom and against who is fighting?
Is it gaming? .
So it's not obvious to you that England has fought various nations for 2000 years for a homeland?.
The only difference between you and I is I considering England a home and you consider it a business.
What is obvious to me is you are talking nonsense in trying to give your vile little views some sort of credibility..
There is a world of difference between you and I, one is I am not full of bile and hatred and I'm good with that..
.
You do nothing all day except spout vile and hatred for brexiters, Tory's and whatever else floats your boat, hypocrisy is a very unflattering trait.
Stop lying there's a good lad..
What lie did he tell in his last post? "
Are you still saying that Russia has not tried to influence US politics?
You know, like the question in the thread actually asks |
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"I blame my own government for the last 50 years of wilful treason against their own people, no Russian bots were needed in creating this mess, we've been sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years.
"Sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years"
Meaning what? Sounds ike tilting at windmills to me .
You wouldn't understand But many others reading it will.
That you believe that those who share your thoughts have the capacity to read is endearing..
.
Hahahaha your hilarious, alas maybe you could share my thoughts seen as you know who I mean and what I'm saying?.
Mind reading?
Not my forte, not with those of high intelligence or those whose knuckles drag as they walk..
What does your fighting for our homeland mean, whom and against who is fighting?
Is it gaming? .
So it's not obvious to you that England has fought various nations for 2000 years for a homeland?.
The only difference between you and I is I considering England a home and you consider it a business.
What is obvious to me is you are talking nonsense in trying to give your vile little views some sort of credibility..
There is a world of difference between you and I, one is I am not full of bile and hatred and I'm good with that..
.
You do nothing all day except spout vile and hatred for brexiters, Tory's and whatever else floats your boat, hypocrisy is a very unflattering trait.
Stop lying there's a good lad..
What lie did he tell in his last post?
Are you still saying that Russia has not tried to influence US politics?
You know, like the question in the thread actually asks "
I just wanted to know what lies the person I quoted thought were being told? I can't see any lies there?
As for your question, maybe Russia has meddled in other countries affairs, but what's good for the goose is good for the gander. The USA have been meddling in other countries affairs and have been trying to influence foreign elections for years. Barack Obama tried to influence the EU referendum here in the UK in 2016 when he came over and told people to vote remain or we'd be at the back of his queue.
Maybe about time the USA had a taste of its own medicine in this area.
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
West London |
"I blame my own government for the last 50 years of wilful treason against their own people, no Russian bots were needed in creating this mess, we've been sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years.
"Sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years"
Meaning what? Sounds ike tilting at windmills to me .
You wouldn't understand But many others reading it will.
That you believe that those who share your thoughts have the capacity to read is endearing..
.
Hahahaha your hilarious, alas maybe you could share my thoughts seen as you know who I mean and what I'm saying?.
Mind reading?
Not my forte, not with those of high intelligence or those whose knuckles drag as they walk..
What does your fighting for our homeland mean, whom and against who is fighting?
Is it gaming? .
So it's not obvious to you that England has fought various nations for 2000 years for a homeland?.
The only difference between you and I is I considering England a home and you consider it a business.
What is obvious to me is you are talking nonsense in trying to give your vile little views some sort of credibility..
There is a world of difference between you and I, one is I am not full of bile and hatred and I'm good with that..
.
You do nothing all day except spout vile and hatred for brexiters, Tory's and whatever else floats your boat, hypocrisy is a very unflattering trait.
Stop lying there's a good lad..
What lie did he tell in his last post?
Are you still saying that Russia has not tried to influence US politics?
You know, like the question in the thread actually asks
I just wanted to know what lies the person I quoted thought were being told? I can't see any lies there?
As for your question, maybe Russia has meddled in other countries affairs, but what's good for the goose is good for the gander. The USA have been meddling in other countries affairs and have been trying to influence foreign elections for years. Barack Obama tried to influence the EU referendum here in the UK in 2016 when he came over and told people to vote remain or we'd be at the back of his queue.
Maybe about time the USA had a taste of its own medicine in this area.
"
You've been stating quote loudly that any talk of Russian interference was "fake news".
As I stated, I am not interested in the relative argument that the west have done it before.
I'm more interested in where your defence of Putin stands.
It sounds like you think it's OK that democracy is being subverted by Russia but you now acknowledge that it is happening.
You almost answered a question. This is progress 
Obama was transparent with what he said as has Trump in stating that accepting May's transition deal would be very bad. Goose and gander eh? |
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"I blame my own government for the last 50 years of wilful treason against their own people, no Russian bots were needed in creating this mess, we've been sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years.
"Sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years"
Meaning what? Sounds ike tilting at windmills to me .
You wouldn't understand But many others reading it will.
That you believe that those who share your thoughts have the capacity to read is endearing..
.
Hahahaha your hilarious, alas maybe you could share my thoughts seen as you know who I mean and what I'm saying?.
Mind reading?
Not my forte, not with those of high intelligence or those whose knuckles drag as they walk..
What does your fighting for our homeland mean, whom and against who is fighting?
Is it gaming? .
So it's not obvious to you that England has fought various nations for 2000 years for a homeland?.
The only difference between you and I is I considering England a home and you consider it a business.
What is obvious to me is you are talking nonsense in trying to give your vile little views some sort of credibility..
There is a world of difference between you and I, one is I am not full of bile and hatred and I'm good with that..
.
You do nothing all day except spout vile and hatred for brexiters, Tory's and whatever else floats your boat, hypocrisy is a very unflattering trait.
Stop lying there's a good lad..
What lie did he tell in his last post? "
It's a bit sad that you choose to contribute in such a pointless fashion but it's not a surprise..
Several parts actually pretty much all of what he said is false, I have never used the word hate or any other similar word that means the same in relation to either tories or Brexiteers..
Not once so feel free to troll back centaur and try and show me using that word..
Fucks sake your agreeing with something not even grammatically correct in that thing we call the Queens English,let alone with any basis of truth..
Jumping on the obvious bandwagon of a racist neanderthal with views that even you don't or haven't elucidated in the time when we have debated many things is piss poor from you.
So crack on and try and find that word..
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"I blame my own government for the last 50 years of wilful treason against their own people, no Russian bots were needed in creating this mess, we've been sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years.
"Sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years"
Meaning what? Sounds ike tilting at windmills to me .
You wouldn't understand But many others reading it will.
That you believe that those who share your thoughts have the capacity to read is endearing..
.
Hahahaha your hilarious, alas maybe you could share my thoughts seen as you know who I mean and what I'm saying?.
Mind reading?
Not my forte, not with those of high intelligence or those whose knuckles drag as they walk..
What does your fighting for our homeland mean, whom and against who is fighting?
Is it gaming? .
So it's not obvious to you that England has fought various nations for 2000 years for a homeland?.
The only difference between you and I is I considering England a home and you consider it a business.
What is obvious to me is you are talking nonsense in trying to give your vile little views some sort of credibility..
There is a world of difference between you and I, one is I am not full of bile and hatred and I'm good with that..
.
You do nothing all day except spout vile and hatred for brexiters, Tory's and whatever else floats your boat, hypocrisy is a very unflattering trait.
Stop lying there's a good lad..
What lie did he tell in his last post?
It's a bit sad that you choose to contribute in such a pointless fashion but it's not a surprise..
Several parts actually pretty much all of what he said is false, I have never used the word hate or any other similar word that means the same in relation to either tories or Brexiteers..
Not once so feel free to troll back centaur and try and show me using that word..
Fucks sake your agreeing with something not even grammatically correct in that thing we call the Queens English,let alone with any basis of truth..
Jumping on the obvious bandwagon of a racist neanderthal with views that even you don't or haven't elucidated in the time when we have debated many things is piss poor from you.
So crack on and try and find that word..
"
You don't actually have to use the word "hate" or physically type the word "hate" to express you hate something.
If you had even a basic understanding of the Queens English you would understand this. As the guy said the majority of your posts on here express hatred, contempt and ill feeling towards brexiters and tories, day in, day out on here (even if you've not specifically used the word 'hate' it's more than obvious).
I'm not jumping on the bandwagon for anything either, just calling you out when you told the guy to stop telling lies, when he hadn't told any in the post you quoted. |
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"I blame my own government for the last 50 years of wilful treason against their own people, no Russian bots were needed in creating this mess, we've been sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years.
"Sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years"
Meaning what? Sounds ike tilting at windmills to me .
You wouldn't understand But many others reading it will.
That you believe that those who share your thoughts have the capacity to read is endearing..
.
Hahahaha your hilarious, alas maybe you could share my thoughts seen as you know who I mean and what I'm saying?.
Mind reading?
Not my forte, not with those of high intelligence or those whose knuckles drag as they walk..
What does your fighting for our homeland mean, whom and against who is fighting?
Is it gaming? .
So it's not obvious to you that England has fought various nations for 2000 years for a homeland?.
The only difference between you and I is I considering England a home and you consider it a business.
What is obvious to me is you are talking nonsense in trying to give your vile little views some sort of credibility..
There is a world of difference between you and I, one is I am not full of bile and hatred and I'm good with that..
.
You do nothing all day except spout vile and hatred for brexiters, Tory's and whatever else floats your boat, hypocrisy is a very unflattering trait.
Stop lying there's a good lad..
What lie did he tell in his last post?
Are you still saying that Russia has not tried to influence US politics?
You know, like the question in the thread actually asks
I just wanted to know what lies the person I quoted thought were being told? I can't see any lies there?
As for your question, maybe Russia has meddled in other countries affairs, but what's good for the goose is good for the gander. The USA have been meddling in other countries affairs and have been trying to influence foreign elections for years. Barack Obama tried to influence the EU referendum here in the UK in 2016 when he came over and told people to vote remain or we'd be at the back of his queue.
Maybe about time the USA had a taste of its own medicine in this area.
You've been stating quote loudly that any talk of Russian interference was "fake news".
As I stated, I am not interested in the relative argument that the west have done it before.
I'm more interested in where your defence of Putin stands.
It sounds like you think it's OK that democracy is being subverted by Russia but you now acknowledge that it is happening.
You almost answered a question. This is progress
Obama was transparent with what he said as has Trump in stating that accepting May's transition deal would be very bad. Goose and gander eh?"
I didn't say Russia had interfered, I said "maybe" they interfered. There is a clear difference. You think trying to influence a foreign election openly as Obama did here is okay, but not if it's done under the radar as Russia is alleged to have done? Seems odd, as both methods seek to attain the same outcome, being to influence the result of a foreign election one way or the other. |
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"I blame my own government for the last 50 years of wilful treason against their own people, no Russian bots were needed in creating this mess, we've been sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years.
"Sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years"
Meaning what? Sounds ike tilting at windmills to me .
You wouldn't understand But many others reading it will.
That you believe that those who share your thoughts have the capacity to read is endearing..
.
Hahahaha your hilarious, alas maybe you could share my thoughts seen as you know who I mean and what I'm saying?.
Mind reading?
Not my forte, not with those of high intelligence or those whose knuckles drag as they walk..
What does your fighting for our homeland mean, whom and against who is fighting?
Is it gaming? .
So it's not obvious to you that England has fought various nations for 2000 years for a homeland?.
The only difference between you and I is I considering England a home and you consider it a business.
What is obvious to me is you are talking nonsense in trying to give your vile little views some sort of credibility..
There is a world of difference between you and I, one is I am not full of bile and hatred and I'm good with that..
.
You do nothing all day except spout vile and hatred for brexiters, Tory's and whatever else floats your boat, hypocrisy is a very unflattering trait.
Stop lying there's a good lad..
What lie did he tell in his last post?
It's a bit sad that you choose to contribute in such a pointless fashion but it's not a surprise..
Several parts actually pretty much all of what he said is false, I have never used the word hate or any other similar word that means the same in relation to either tories or Brexiteers..
Not once so feel free to troll back centaur and try and show me using that word..
Fucks sake your agreeing with something not even grammatically correct in that thing we call the Queens English,let alone with any basis of truth..
Jumping on the obvious bandwagon of a racist neanderthal with views that even you don't or haven't elucidated in the time when we have debated many things is piss poor from you.
So crack on and try and find that word..
You don't actually have to use the word "hate" or physically type the word "hate" to express you hate something.
If you had even a basic understanding of the Queens English you would understand this. As the guy said the majority of your posts on here express hatred, contempt and ill feeling towards brexiters and tories, day in, day out on here (even if you've not specifically used the word 'hate' it's more than obvious).
I'm not jumping on the bandwagon for anything either, just calling you out when you told the guy to stop telling lies, when he hadn't told any in the post you quoted."
Then you don't agree with someone stating that as fact, because you just look stupid don't you..
The lie he told was to say that I use the word hate, that was the lie I addressed and to which you responded without thinking..
Now your trying to backtrack and justify what you said with this complete drivel..
I have never expressed or intimated hatred to anyone on this site, the only time I have used it is in response to posts from people who have used such vile language about machine gunning people in boats..
And that's in the context of asking why they have such hatred..
If I thought someone was a cunt I would say it, I wouldn't beat about the Bush and hide behind expressing it some other way..
And I have never expressed hatred let alone said it so again stop saying lies..
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
Bristol East |
If we accept that Russia has been trying to manipulate politics in the US, who do we think is trying to manipulate politics in the UK?
Overtly or covertly?
a) Putin
b) Bannon
c) Middle East Monitor
One thing the Russians did was to pass an Act a few years that requires any organisation in receipt of non-Russian money to register with a state register.
The Act has teeth, too.
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
West London |
"I blame my own government for the last 50 years of wilful treason against their own people, no Russian bots were needed in creating this mess, we've been sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years.
"Sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years"
Meaning what? Sounds ike tilting at windmills to me .
You wouldn't understand But many others reading it will.
That you believe that those who share your thoughts have the capacity to read is endearing..
.
Hahahaha your hilarious, alas maybe you could share my thoughts seen as you know who I mean and what I'm saying?.
Mind reading?
Not my forte, not with those of high intelligence or those whose knuckles drag as they walk..
What does your fighting for our homeland mean, whom and against who is fighting?
Is it gaming? .
So it's not obvious to you that England has fought various nations for 2000 years for a homeland?.
The only difference between you and I is I considering England a home and you consider it a business.
What is obvious to me is you are talking nonsense in trying to give your vile little views some sort of credibility..
There is a world of difference between you and I, one is I am not full of bile and hatred and I'm good with that..
.
You do nothing all day except spout vile and hatred for brexiters, Tory's and whatever else floats your boat, hypocrisy is a very unflattering trait.
Stop lying there's a good lad..
What lie did he tell in his last post?
Are you still saying that Russia has not tried to influence US politics?
You know, like the question in the thread actually asks
I just wanted to know what lies the person I quoted thought were being told? I can't see any lies there?
As for your question, maybe Russia has meddled in other countries affairs, but what's good for the goose is good for the gander. The USA have been meddling in other countries affairs and have been trying to influence foreign elections for years. Barack Obama tried to influence the EU referendum here in the UK in 2016 when he came over and told people to vote remain or we'd be at the back of his queue.
Maybe about time the USA had a taste of its own medicine in this area.
You've been stating quote loudly that any talk of Russian interference was "fake news".
As I stated, I am not interested in the relative argument that the west have done it before.
I'm more interested in where your defence of Putin stands.
It sounds like you think it's OK that democracy is being subverted by Russia but you now acknowledge that it is happening.
You almost answered a question. This is progress
Obama was transparent with what he said as has Trump in stating that accepting May's transition deal would be very bad. Goose and gander eh?
I didn't say Russia had interfered, I said "maybe" they interfered. There is a clear difference. You think trying to influence a foreign election openly as Obama did here is okay, but not if it's done under the radar as Russia is alleged to have done? Seems odd, as both methods seek to attain the same outcome, being to influence the result of a foreign election one way or the other. "
I said that you almost answered the question too
It's not at all odd to think that making an open statement like Obama and Trump indicating the consequences of an action. I don't think that either should have done so but apparently Obama was asked to by Cameron. Trump was giving an unsolicited opinion as is his wont. An openly expressed opinion can be accepted or rejected.
Secretly and illegally influencing public and political opinion as well as undermining democratic institutions and the free press without the public's knowledge I find less acceptable.
I'm still interested to hear your interpretation. |
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
West London |
"You reap what you sow, the uk and the us have been trying to influence politics and regime change for years, not noticed many complaining about that.
Every country that can, does it"
Not a new point, but also not the question being posed. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I blame my own government for the last 50 years of wilful treason against their own people, no Russian bots were needed in creating this mess, we've been sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years.
"Sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years"
Meaning what? Sounds ike tilting at windmills to me .
You wouldn't understand But many others reading it will.
That you believe that those who share your thoughts have the capacity to read is endearing..
.
Hahahaha your hilarious, alas maybe you could share my thoughts seen as you know who I mean and what I'm saying?.
Mind reading?
Not my forte, not with those of high intelligence or those whose knuckles drag as they walk..
What does your fighting for our homeland mean, whom and against who is fighting?
Is it gaming? .
So it's not obvious to you that England has fought various nations for 2000 years for a homeland?.
The only difference between you and I is I considering England a home and you consider it a business.
What is obvious to me is you are talking nonsense in trying to give your vile little views some sort of credibility..
There is a world of difference between you and I, one is I am not full of bile and hatred and I'm good with that..
.
You do nothing all day except spout vile and hatred for brexiters, Tory's and whatever else floats your boat, hypocrisy is a very unflattering trait.
Stop lying there's a good lad..
What lie did he tell in his last post?
It's a bit sad that you choose to contribute in such a pointless fashion but it's not a surprise..
Several parts actually pretty much all of what he said is false, I have never used the word hate or any other similar word that means the same in relation to either tories or Brexiteers..
Not once so feel free to troll back centaur and try and show me using that word..
Fucks sake your agreeing with something not even grammatically correct in that thing we call the Queens English,let alone with any basis of truth..
Jumping on the obvious bandwagon of a racist neanderthal with views that even you don't or haven't elucidated in the time when we have debated many things is piss poor from you.
So crack on and try and find that word..
"
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Neanderthals died out 40,000 years ago and it's not known if they were racist or not, the main hypothesis for there extinction was violence from modern humans, hmmm maybe, I mean that sounds racist, competitive replacement (sounds even more racist) competitive exclusion (my god they were Nazis) or interbreeding  |
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"I blame my own government for the last 50 years of wilful treason against their own people, no Russian bots were needed in creating this mess, we've been sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years.
"Sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years"
Meaning what? Sounds ike tilting at windmills to me .
You wouldn't understand But many others reading it will.
That you believe that those who share your thoughts have the capacity to read is endearing..
.
Hahahaha your hilarious, alas maybe you could share my thoughts seen as you know who I mean and what I'm saying?.
Mind reading?
Not my forte, not with those of high intelligence or those whose knuckles drag as they walk..
What does your fighting for our homeland mean, whom and against who is fighting?
Is it gaming? .
So it's not obvious to you that England has fought various nations for 2000 years for a homeland?.
The only difference between you and I is I considering England a home and you consider it a business.
What is obvious to me is you are talking nonsense in trying to give your vile little views some sort of credibility..
There is a world of difference between you and I, one is I am not full of bile and hatred and I'm good with that..
.
You do nothing all day except spout vile and hatred for brexiters, Tory's and whatever else floats your boat, hypocrisy is a very unflattering trait.
Stop lying there's a good lad..
What lie did he tell in his last post?
It's a bit sad that you choose to contribute in such a pointless fashion but it's not a surprise..
Several parts actually pretty much all of what he said is false, I have never used the word hate or any other similar word that means the same in relation to either tories or Brexiteers..
Not once so feel free to troll back centaur and try and show me using that word..
Fucks sake your agreeing with something not even grammatically correct in that thing we call the Queens English,let alone with any basis of truth..
Jumping on the obvious bandwagon of a racist neanderthal with views that even you don't or haven't elucidated in the time when we have debated many things is piss poor from you.
So crack on and try and find that word..
..
Neanderthals died out 40,000 years ago and it's not known if they were racist or not, the main hypothesis for there extinction was violence from modern humans, hmmm maybe, I mean that sounds racist, competitive replacement (sounds even more racist) competitive exclusion (my god they were Nazis) or interbreeding "
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over a year ago
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"I blame my own government for the last 50 years of wilful treason against their own people, no Russian bots were needed in creating this mess, we've been sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years.
"Sold down the river after fighting for our homeland for 2000 years"
Meaning what? Sounds ike tilting at windmills to me .
You wouldn't understand But many others reading it will.
That you believe that those who share your thoughts have the capacity to read is endearing..
.
Hahahaha your hilarious, alas maybe you could share my thoughts seen as you know who I mean and what I'm saying?.
Mind reading?
Not my forte, not with those of high intelligence or those whose knuckles drag as they walk..
What does your fighting for our homeland mean, whom and against who is fighting?
Is it gaming? .
So it's not obvious to you that England has fought various nations for 2000 years for a homeland?.
The only difference between you and I is I considering England a home and you consider it a business.
What is obvious to me is you are talking nonsense in trying to give your vile little views some sort of credibility..
There is a world of difference between you and I, one is I am not full of bile and hatred and I'm good with that..
.
You do nothing all day except spout vile and hatred for brexiters, Tory's and whatever else floats your boat, hypocrisy is a very unflattering trait.
Stop lying there's a good lad..
What lie did he tell in his last post?
It's a bit sad that you choose to contribute in such a pointless fashion but it's not a surprise..
Several parts actually pretty much all of what he said is false, I have never used the word hate or any other similar word that means the same in relation to either tories or Brexiteers..
Not once so feel free to troll back centaur and try and show me using that word..
Fucks sake your agreeing with something not even grammatically correct in that thing we call the Queens English,let alone with any basis of truth..
Jumping on the obvious bandwagon of a racist neanderthal with views that even you don't or haven't elucidated in the time when we have debated many things is piss poor from you.
So crack on and try and find that word..
..
Neanderthals died out 40,000 years ago and it's not known if they were racist or not, the main hypothesis for there extinction was violence from modern humans, hmmm maybe, I mean that sounds racist, competitive replacement (sounds even more racist) competitive exclusion (my god they were Nazis) or interbreeding
As is often said, if the cap fits.. "
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I've just told you the cap can't fit because they went extinct 40,000 years ago.  |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
Bristol East |
There were six humanoid species.
Now there is just one - homo sapiens.
About three per cent of people carry DNA that is Neanderthal in origin.
Their extinction may or may not have been caused by violence from homo sapiens, no-one can be sure.
But we can be sure there was sort of mating going on between the species.
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