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General election. Do you vote for whats best for you, or what you think is best for the country?
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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They're not always necessarily mutually exclusive!
Tomorrow I will voting for what I believe is best for me AND the country.
In my constituency it really doesn't matter how I vote, the incumbent will win comfortably whether I vote red, blue, yellow, green or whatever! |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"They're not always necessarily mutually exclusive!
Tomorrow I will voting for what I believe is best for me AND the country.
In my constituency it really doesn't matter how I vote, the incumbent will win comfortably whether I vote red, blue, yellow, green or whatever! "
This is true for me too. I campaign for what I believe is right for the country.
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I'm not voting for my chosen candidate because of the party he represents, I'm voting for him because he is good for our constituency. He is the incumbent MP and does a bloody good job. He used to be a teacher at one of the local schools and knows and loves the area.
The main alternative candidate is one who has been parachuted in to target the seat and has never actually visited the constituency, let alone lived and worked here. She hasn't even bothered to knock on doors during the election campaign  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I live in one of the safest Tory seats in the country but will be voting for my friends and family.
I would rather pay extra tax under a Labour government and see extra funding for the NHS, for education, for additional police than see the continued drain on these essential services under the tories.
Everyone has their own reasons for how they will vote, these are just mine |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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when i first voted many years ago i was very unpolitically aware but knew i felt strongly about keeping grammar schools so i voted tory - now i need to keep the nhs - i try and see the big picture but think of me and mine as well - finding a balance and tbh im strugglng these days |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I live in one of the safest Tory seats in the country but will be voting for my friends and family.
I would rather pay extra tax under a Labour government and see extra funding for the NHS, for education, for additional police than see the continued drain on these essential services under the tories.
Everyone has their own reasons for how they will vote, these are just mine"
And mine 
It's about voting for the many and not the few. The country has many but the tories only serve the few. |
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By *aspasherMan
over a year ago
South shields |
Personally i think this election you have to think bigger than normal a very big change is coming with leaving Europe and it is happening if you voted for it or not any manifesto that promises this and that will depend on how that turns out so again who is the stronger person to front that process i know who i think it is and will vote that way even though I know where I live it will make no difference localy it is a safe seat |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"when i first voted many years ago i was very unpolitically aware but knew i felt strongly about keeping grammar schools so i voted tory - now i need to keep the nhs - i try and see the big picture but think of me and mine as well - finding a balance and tbh im strugglng these days "
The whole "keep the nhs" thing is kind of hilarious given most privitization/raping of it has been done under labour.
Take pfi, initially a tory idea shot down lots of "omg it's privitization they're selling our nhs!!!" So tories never do anything with it.
Labour get in power and use it to raise quick cash for thier spending sprees and in return saddle the nhs with such a massive debt some of the hospitals forced into the scheme now have whole floors empty and derelict because they can't afford to staff them with the cost of repaying the private companies.
Labour also tried it with the tube but the companies had to be bought out by the tax payer cause they failed so badly (notice labour buys out the tube from trouble but leaves the nhs with its crippling debt to thier mates?)
All in all they borrowed about 70bn billion, which means the nhs and other public services are going to have to repay over 250bn
Funny given they called it privitization by the back door...
"Pfi is always the nhs plan A for building new hospitals there is no plan B" was the quote from the labour minister of health when the financial crisis revealed just how much labour had been pushing these schemes
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By (user no longer on site)
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I,m voting for what I feel is best at the time, I have in the past voted for each of the major parties on separate occasions. I think the conservatives will get back in though, otherwise T. May would not have called a snap election, she must have been fairly confident in winning to call it. Not voting for cons though. |
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Before voting I look at the history of the political system and remember the truths and the lies that were touted and fed to me.
I change my vote based on either who can win for the greater good or who can stop another winning to reduce the bad.
This time around I'm voting and easily. This is the first time in a very very very long time there is a clear distinction between the puppets of so called democratic parties.
We were lied to about the reprimands and losses from staying in Europe and the effects it would have on the NHS etc.
The risk to the nhs and the way a terribly inept career politician cocked up the security of this country and now as an unelected prime minister failed to even release a manifesto first after calling an election as well as failing to debate revealed her lack of integrity and oh yes her number 1 favourite manoeuvre.. the U-turn would be enough not to vote for her.
However my voting this time is on a politician who throughout his entirely career has shown what a good human being he is and how he has always done what is just and morally correct.
In the vernacular he is not corrupt.
I am proudly voting for the X Factor himself... mister J capital C... c..c..c .. Corbynn!
Ps: Tories would be good for me yet I choose integrity morality and the good of us all and the world first. Always! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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My vote wont make a difference cus the Tories win comfortably here in the posh villages.
I vote Labour but am also keen on many Green party policies.
I would vote tacticaly but as far as i can find out that still wont stop the Tories winning here. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think that the majority of people believe that voting for what's best for them is best for the country. I don't believe many people put a cross in the box thinking 'this will serve me but my country is fucked'
I will be voting SNP today because they are the only party I trust to have Scotland's best interests at heart. I actually like Corbyn and hope beyond hope that when we wake up tomorrow, we wake to a Government that's progressive and socialist and believes in a fair and just society. A Government who works for the many and not for the few. I'm not quite sure why people think he isn't strong enough to be PM. He has overcome more in the last 3 years than Theresa May has her entire political life.
Tories are ripping this country apart. I can't see how that's good for any country.
I guess it's our varied views and opinions that makes the world such an interesting place. It would, after all, be boring if we all thought the same.
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"I think that the majority of people believe that voting for what's best for them is best for the country. I don't believe many people put a cross in the box thinking 'this will serve me but my country is fucked'
I will be voting SNP today because they are the only party I trust to have Scotland's best interests at heart. I actually like Corbyn and hope beyond hope that when we wake up tomorrow, we wake to a Government that's progressive and socialist and believes in a fair and just society. A Government who works for the many and not for the few. I'm not quite sure why people think he isn't strong enough to be PM. He has overcome more in the last 3 years than Theresa May has her entire political life.
Tories are ripping this country apart. I can't see how that's good for any country.
I guess it's our varied views and opinions that makes the world such an interesting place. It would, after all, be boring if we all thought the same.
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Vote Corbyn and get him in. The vote snp later. If Corbyn doesn't get in now were all screwed for sure |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I feel totally let down by all the parties in Scotland. There's not one of them I trust to look out for Scotlands needs therefore I won't be voting. We're screwed whoever gets in  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I think that the majority of people believe that voting for what's best for them is best for the country. I don't believe many people put a cross in the box thinking 'this will serve me but my country is fucked'
I will be voting SNP today because they are the only party I trust to have Scotland's best interests at heart. I actually like Corbyn and hope beyond hope that when we wake up tomorrow, we wake to a Government that's progressive and socialist and believes in a fair and just society. A Government who works for the many and not for the few. I'm not quite sure why people think he isn't strong enough to be PM. He has overcome more in the last 3 years than Theresa May has her entire political life.
Tories are ripping this country apart. I can't see how that's good for any country.
I guess it's our varied views and opinions that makes the world such an interesting place. It would, after all, be boring if we all thought the same.
Vote Corbyn and get him in. The vote snp later. If Corbyn doesn't get in now were all screwed for sure"
I can't bring myself to do it up here. Kezia does not inspire confidence. I feel I would be doing us an injustice by voting her Scottish Labour. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Financially the tories are better for me, but I would rather pay more tax and have a social system that works properly and cut the reliance on foodbanks. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If anyone votes based on what other random people tell them to on Social Media they're a fucking moron.
Make your OWN conclusions based on what you know and believe and ignore all the twats of all political persuasions who have been pushing their own biased political agendas on the likes of Fakebook, Twatter and here.
Go with what YOU want. Not someone else behind a keyboard! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I think that the majority of people believe that voting for what's best for them is best for the country. I don't believe many people put a cross in the box thinking 'this will serve me but my country is fucked'
I will be voting SNP today because they are the only party I trust to have Scotland's best interests at heart. I actually like Corbyn and hope beyond hope that when we wake up tomorrow, we wake to a Government that's progressive and socialist and believes in a fair and just society. A Government who works for the many and not for the few. I'm not quite sure why people think he isn't strong enough to be PM. He has overcome more in the last 3 years than Theresa May has her entire political life.
Tories are ripping this country apart. I can't see how that's good for any country.
I guess it's our varied views and opinions that makes the world such an interesting place. It would, after all, be boring if we all thought the same.
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Surely it's the SNP who want to rip the country apart?
I mean that's thier sole reason for existing isn't it? |
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"I think that the majority of people believe that voting for what's best for them is best for the country. I don't believe many people put a cross in the box thinking 'this will serve me but my country is fucked'
I will be voting SNP today because they are the only party I trust to have Scotland's best interests at heart. I actually like Corbyn and hope beyond hope that when we wake up tomorrow, we wake to a Government that's progressive and socialist and believes in a fair and just society. A Government who works for the many and not for the few. I'm not quite sure why people think he isn't strong enough to be PM. He has overcome more in the last 3 years than Theresa May has her entire political life.
Tories are ripping this country apart. I can't see how that's good for any country.
I guess it's our varied views and opinions that makes the world such an interesting place. It would, after all, be boring if we all thought the same.
Surely it's the SNP who want to rip the country apart?
I mean that's thier sole reason for existing isn't it?"
I happen to believe that every country has the right to self govern. I don't think that in itself is a divisive thing. I believe that wanting the people who live and work here making the decisions for Scotland, is a good thing. I'd also be equally happy with home rule. However, it's not on the table. I also believe that England should have devolved parliaments throughout. I believe it unfair to them to have Westminster serve as their only government.
However, independence is not the issue I am voting on today. Today I'm voting for the policies that I believe will make day to day life better for the many. |
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I'm not greatly affected by any changes any party will bring about. Might gain a few hundred quid, might lose a few hundred quid on a crowd pleaser policy. It means very little to my situation.
So I always vote for a government I feel can credibly run the country and represent us on the world stage.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I find voting in a general election is always a bit weird as it's not really about May, Corbyn et al.
The reality is that you should vote for whichever local councillor you can trust to sort out any problem which may arise in your constituency.
I know of a few die hard Labour voters (living in different areas in the UK) who voted Conservative in the last general election just because they were the person who came to their aid when they had a problem.
I really like Corbyn, but am fearful about giving Labour the keys to the treasury. The reality is though that I'm in a Conservative stronghold so it doesn't even matter.
I just wish they would fix the voting system - FPTP is an absolutely rubbish system and not all votes are equal anyway to begin with. |
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Already cast my vote. For me it's about looking out for the working class. The Tory policies are all about looking after their own we've major situations happening and they are looking into fox hunting. As for national security their leader was home secretary and she done fuck all except cuts to border patrol and police and look where that's got us?
To me corbyn looks the type to think first then act. |
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"I find voting in a general election is always a bit weird as it's not really about May, Corbyn et al.
The reality is that you should vote for whichever local councillor you can trust to sort out any problem which may arise in your constituency.
I know of a few die hard Labour voters (living in different areas in the UK) who voted Conservative in the last general election just because they were the person who came to their aid when they had a problem.
I really like Corbyn, but am fearful about giving Labour the keys to the treasury. The reality is though that I'm in a Conservative stronghold so it doesn't even matter.
I just wish they would fix the voting system - FPTP is an absolutely rubbish system and not all votes are equal anyway to begin with."
This is actually why I think they should change the system
Fptp for the local mp election, pr for the house of Lords (why we have an unleaded house is beyond me) |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Already cast my vote. For me it's about looking out for the working class. The Tory policies are all about looking after their own we've major situations happening and they are looking into fox hunting. As for national security their leader was home secretary and she done fuck all except cuts to border patrol and police and look where that's got us?
To me corbyn looks the type to think first then act. "
You realise of course that the whole fox hunting thing came about because a journalist directly asked her about it was never policy or even important |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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My biggest fear is the loss to the defense of this country. Without it we will have nothing. We will be sold to the highest bomber. All promises, better lifestyle, better trains, hospitals will all be history. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"My biggest fear is the loss to the defense of this country. Without it we will have nothing. We will be sold to the highest bomber. All promises, better lifestyle, better trains, hospitals will all be history. "
Tbh defence of the uk is all about power projection.
We could sit with nothing but the coast guard safe in the knowledge that to get to us any country would have to cross Europe.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Except for submarines. That's all I'm saying. "
which leaves France, Israel, Russia, usa and China.
Can't really see any of them being beings problem tbh
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I,m voting for what I feel is best at the time, I have in the past voted for each of the major parties on separate occasions. I think the conservatives will get back in though, otherwise T. May would not have called a snap election, she must have been fairly confident in winning to call it. Not voting for cons though. "
She was very confident at the time. Who wouldn't have been...given she was 27% ahead of Labour. So it was a simple case of political opportunity when she called that snap election! She had said on numerous occasions that it was not in the countries interest prior to this!
She didn't reckon on a few things though ....the main one being that Corbyn has come across as a credible PM!
She took the chose of calling a election for her own political gains and not the countries.....which will backfire for her in less then 24 hours. |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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I'm voting for the sake of my family. As someone who earns more than average I would be best voting Tory, although I don't earn enough to get their tax breaks.
But I have a son who relies heavily on the NHS. He had sudden health problems about 6 years ago and lost his sight. Every 3-5 years he undergoes 6-7 hours of brain surgery. We need the NHS.
I also have a fundamental belief that if society as a whole is better off then so am I. We don't live in isolation. I don't want to pull up the drawbridge on the rest of the world.
I also work in IT and have seen the determination of May to remove our rights online and really don't want to be going down that path just because she doesn't understand how mathematics works.
So in short, yes I'm voting for myself. But I actually want to live in a fairer society.
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"I find voting in a general election is always a bit weird as it's not really about May, Corbyn et al.
The reality is that you should vote for whichever local councillor you can trust to sort out any problem which may arise in your constituency.
I know of a few die hard Labour voters (living in different areas in the UK) who voted Conservative in the last general election just because they were the person who came to their aid when they had a problem.
I really like Corbyn, but am fearful about giving Labour the keys to the treasury. The reality is though that I'm in a Conservative stronghold so it doesn't even matter.
I just wish they would fix the voting system - FPTP is an absolutely rubbish system and not all votes are equal anyway to begin with.
This is actually why I think they should change the system
Fptp for the local mp election, pr for the house of Lords (why we have an unleaded house is beyond me)"
Because 2 elected houses leads to the kind of problems that plauge the american system and you won't want seconds of that. |
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"I find voting in a general election is always a bit weird as it's not really about May, Corbyn et al.
The reality is that you should vote for whichever local councillor you can trust to sort out any problem which may arise in your constituency.
I know of a few die hard Labour voters (living in different areas in the UK) who voted Conservative in the last general election just because they were the person who came to their aid when they had a problem.
I really like Corbyn, but am fearful about giving Labour the keys to the treasury. The reality is though that I'm in a Conservative stronghold so it doesn't even matter.
I just wish they would fix the voting system - FPTP is an absolutely rubbish system and not all votes are equal anyway to begin with.
This is actually why I think they should change the system
Fptp for the local mp election, pr for the house of Lords (why we have an unleaded house is beyond me)
Because 2 elected houses leads to the kind of problems that plauge the american system and you won't want seconds of that. "
The issues related to 2 elected houses are mitigate able.
The fact we leave laws up to people who rule us due to thier religion, or thier dad, or how much they sucked the former govts however is unmitigatable |
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"I find voting in a general election is always a bit weird as it's not really about May, Corbyn et al.
The reality is that you should vote for whichever local councillor you can trust to sort out any problem which may arise in your constituency.
I know of a few die hard Labour voters (living in different areas in the UK) who voted Conservative in the last general election just because they were the person who came to their aid when they had a problem.
I really like Corbyn, but am fearful about giving Labour the keys to the treasury. The reality is though that I'm in a Conservative stronghold so it doesn't even matter.
I just wish they would fix the voting system - FPTP is an absolutely rubbish system and not all votes are equal anyway to begin with.
This is actually why I think they should change the system
Fptp for the local mp election, pr for the house of Lords (why we have an unleaded house is beyond me)
Because 2 elected houses leads to the kind of problems that plauge the american system and you won't want seconds of that.
The issues related to 2 elected houses are mitigate able.
The fact we leave laws up to people who rule us due to thier religion, or thier dad, or how much they sucked the former govts however is unmitigatable "
So what have the house of lords prevented us doing recently that has really upset you? Other than not letting you get rid of them! |
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Hi OP...
Truth is most people don't vote for either, they vote for who they are told to vote for and later complain when they are forced to live with the results of their votes (or lack of voting).
Of course come the next election they generally do the same again because the same people ell them to and suffer in the same way again...
People are like sheep, they really are stupid and flock together, easy to control with a well trained dog... |
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I voted lib dems as I agree with the vast majority of the policies. We have had labour and conversatives in power for however many years and noone ever seems to be happy with either party.
Time for change but I know it wont come. |
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"I voted lib dems as I agree with the vast majority of the policies. We have had labour and conversatives in power for however many years and noone ever seems to be happy with either party.
Time for change but I know it wont come."
I'm a pretty decent fit with the Lib Dem's policies, but our local candidates are absolutely loathsome morons and Tim Farron was an extremely poor choice for a leader. |
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"I voted lib dems as I agree with the vast majority of the policies. We have had labour and conversatives in power for however many years and noone ever seems to be happy with either party.
Time for change but I know it wont come.
I'm a pretty decent fit with the Lib Dem's policies, but our local candidates are absolutely loathsome morons and Tim Farron was an extremely poor choice for a leader."
I thought Tim did better than May or Corbyn on the question time special? |
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