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By *end1 OP Man 2 weeks ago
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Netanyahu and his right wing cronies have now sanctioned Haaretz a 105 year old newspaper for criticism of the Israelis war in Gaza. Yet another step in trying to hide the truth of the slaughter of innocent Palestinians Israel already forced al Jazeera to close down for being the only news agency to show what's happening in Gaza. |
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"Netanyahu and his right wing cronies have now sanctioned Haaretz a 105 year old newspaper for criticism of the Israelis war in Gaza. Yet another step in trying to hide the truth of the slaughter of innocent Palestinians Israel already forced al Jazeera to close down for being the only news agency to show what's happening in Gaza."
As long as MSM are kept out, then anything can be said and done.
We are not killing children, prove it
We are not starving children, prove it
etc. |
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"Netanyahu and his right wing cronies have now sanctioned Haaretz a 105 year old newspaper for criticism of the Israelis war in Gaza. Yet another step in trying to hide the truth of the slaughter of innocent Palestinians Israel already forced al Jazeera to close down for being the only news agency to show what's happening in Gaza.
As long as MSM are kept out, then anything can be said and done.
We are not killing children, prove it
We are not starving children, prove it
etc."
Are you talking about Hamas and how they use children as human shields, or how they have their thugs hijack and steal the aid that enters Gaza?
Mrs x |
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"Netanyahu and his right wing cronies have now sanctioned Haaretz a 105 year old newspaper for criticism of the Israelis war in Gaza. Yet another step in trying to hide the truth of the slaughter of innocent Palestinians Israel already forced al Jazeera to close down for being the only news agency to show what's happening in Gaza.
As long as MSM are kept out, then anything can be said and done.
We are not killing children, prove it
We are not starving children, prove it
etc.Are you talking about Hamas and how they use children as human shields, or how they have their thugs hijack and steal the aid that enters Gaza?
Mrs x"
Both wrong but why not at least debate the valid and equally wrong points the OP raised..?
After that 'whatabout' all you want perhaps..
Just a thought..
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"Netanyahu and his right wing cronies have now sanctioned Haaretz a 105 year old newspaper for criticism of the Israelis war in Gaza. Yet another step in trying to hide the truth of the slaughter of innocent Palestinians Israel already forced al Jazeera to close down for being the only news agency to show what's happening in Gaza.
As long as MSM are kept out, then anything can be said and done.
We are not killing children, prove it
We are not starving children, prove it
etc.Are you talking about Hamas and how they use children as human shields, or how they have their thugs hijack and steal the aid that enters Gaza?
Mrs x
Both wrong but why not at least debate the valid and equally wrong points the OP raised..?
After that 'whatabout' all you want perhaps..
Just a thought..
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Whataboutery? I asked if his points were about Hamas. I'm not sure of your experience of forums but you can pick and choose who you want to on a thread.
That's another thought.
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"Netanyahu and his right wing cronies have now sanctioned Haaretz a 105 year old newspaper for criticism of the Israelis war in Gaza. Yet another step in trying to hide the truth of the slaughter of innocent Palestinians Israel already forced al Jazeera to close down for being the only news agency to show what's happening in Gaza.
As long as MSM are kept out, then anything can be said and done.
We are not killing children, prove it
We are not starving children, prove it
etc.Are you talking about Hamas and how they use children as human shields, or how they have their thugs hijack and steal the aid that enters Gaza?
Mrs x
Both wrong but why not at least debate the valid and equally wrong points the OP raised..?
After that 'whatabout' all you want perhaps..
Just a thought..
Whataboutery? I asked if his points were about Hamas. I'm not sure of your experience of forums but you can pick and choose who you want to on a thread.
That's another thought.
Mrs x"
Yes, exactly that..
Thanks for the wisdom of your experience..
His op is clearly about Netanyahu and his governments treatment of independent media scrutiny of their actions (and yes there is little or none of the same in Gaza but that's not the standard or level of accountability a democratic society should emulate) |
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By *end1 OP Man 2 weeks ago
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"Netanyahu and his right wing cronies have now sanctioned Haaretz a 105 year old newspaper for criticism of the Israelis war in Gaza. Yet another step in trying to hide the truth of the slaughter of innocent Palestinians Israel already forced al Jazeera to close down for being the only news agency to show what's happening in Gaza.
As long as MSM are kept out, then anything can be said and done.
We are not killing children, prove it
We are not starving children, prove it
etc.Are you talking about Hamas and how they use children as human shields, or how they have their thugs hijack and steal the aid that enters Gaza?
Mrs x"
as ive stated before I have zero sympathy for hamas or Hezbollah. But for the innocent Palestinians especially the children! It seems to me you have total support for Netanyahu and his right wing cronies. Do you also support the illegal settlements and the continued attacks on Palestinians from the settlers. |
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"Netanyahu and his right wing cronies have now sanctioned Haaretz a 105 year old newspaper for criticism of the Israelis war in Gaza. Yet another step in trying to hide the truth of the slaughter of innocent Palestinians Israel already forced al Jazeera to close down for being the only news agency to show what's happening in Gaza.
As long as MSM are kept out, then anything can be said and done.
We are not killing children, prove it
We are not starving children, prove it
etc.Are you talking about Hamas and how they use children as human shields, or how they have their thugs hijack and steal the aid that enters Gaza?
Mrs x"
Antisocial personality disorder, often abbreviated to ASPD, is a mental disorder defined by a chronic pattern of behavior that disregards the rights and well-being of others. |
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Antisocial personality disorder, often abbreviated to ASPD, is a mental disorder defined by a chronic pattern of behavior that disregards the rights and well-being of others. "
Indeed 
Like those idiots in online forums who *repeatedly* post things like "you're 25%" to any post where they have nothing of value to contribute, simply as a wind-up. |
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Antisocial personality disorder, often abbreviated to ASPD, is a mental disorder defined by a chronic pattern of behavior that disregards the rights and well-being of others.
Indeed
Like those idiots in online forums who *repeatedly* post things like "you're 25%" to any post where they have nothing of value to contribute, simply as a wind-up."
I cannot help what the country generally thinks, and to correct you it is 15%.
And lastly do not comment on post which are not related to yourself I am sure she can look after herself without your input she has before and will continue to do so.
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Antisocial personality disorder, often abbreviated to ASPD, is a mental disorder defined by a chronic pattern of behavior that disregards the rights and well-being of others.
Indeed
Like those idiots in online forums who *repeatedly* post things like "you're 25%" to any post where they have nothing of value to contribute, simply as a wind-up."
Do I wind you up, sorry |
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Antisocial personality disorder, often abbreviated to ASPD, is a mental disorder defined by a chronic pattern of behavior that disregards the rights and well-being of others.
Indeed
Like those idiots in online forums who *repeatedly* post things like "you're 25%" to any post where they have nothing of value to contribute, simply as a wind-up.
I cannot help what the country generally thinks, and to correct you it is 15%.
And lastly do not comment on post which are not related to yourself I am sure she can look after herself without your input she has before and will continue to do so.
Pile on"
Anyone, such as I am now on a public forum can post..
Only the mods control whom and what etc..
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"getting back on topic, the story here is the likud party government attempting to silence unfavourable criticism from the Israeli press"
It stinks of weakness and is an emotional, rather than a rational, move.
That said, it's petty vengeance, not an attempt to silence. As explained in the Guardian, it will boycott "the publication by government officials or anyone working for a government-funded body and halting all government advertising in its pages or website".
For context, this would be like the Labour government banning ministers from speaking to Daily Mail and halting any government advertising on the Daily Mail platform. I.e. not silencing, but still a poor show in a democracy.
The reason given by the government is that Ha'aretz is publishing content unhelpful to the war effort. The thinking is that the press needs to toe the line during a war, because part of the war effort is media and communications. Similarly to Ukraine choosing to suppress some information and amplify other information, Israel sees the need to discourage amplification of news that harms, for example, hostage negotiations.
This kind of move is likely to further rile up a publication, and will probably end up being self-defeating. |
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And lastly do not comment on post which are not related to yourself I am sure she can look after herself without your input she has before and will continue to do so.
Pile on"
That sounds just like what someone says when called out for hassling someone at a bar. There's a term for that, perhaps.
It's an interesting thing to ponder - would people on a forum act the same way in real life?
Is pointing out the irony in a post now a pile on?
Is there even a concept of interrupting a unilaterally "private" dialogue between two people on a public forum as being socially unacceptable? Should one attempt to control the free speech of others ("...do not comment on...") when decrying a government restricting free speech?
Are snowflakes really falling at this time of year? |
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And lastly do not comment on post which are not related to yourself I am sure she can look after herself without your input she has before and will continue to do so.
Pile on
That sounds just like what someone says when called out for hassling someone at a bar. There's a term for that, perhaps.
It's an interesting thing to ponder - would people on a forum act the same way in real life?
Is pointing out the irony in a post now a pile on?
Is there even a concept of interrupting a unilaterally "private" dialogue between two people on a public forum as being socially unacceptable? Should one attempt to control the free speech of others ("...do not comment on...") when decrying a government restricting free speech?
Are snowflakes really falling at this time of year?"
You've done it again, bravo, Mrs x |
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"Netanyahu and his right wing cronies have now sanctioned Haaretz a 105 year old newspaper for criticism of the Israelis war in Gaza. Yet another step in trying to hide the truth of the slaughter of innocent Palestinians Israel already forced al Jazeera to close down for being the only news agency to show what's happening in Gaza.
As long as MSM are kept out, then anything can be said and done.
We are not killing children, prove it
We are not starving children, prove it
etc.Are you talking about Hamas and how they use children as human shields, or how they have their thugs hijack and steal the aid that enters Gaza?
Mrs x as ive stated before I have zero sympathy for hamas or Hezbollah. But for the innocent Palestinians especially the children! It seems to me you have total support for Netanyahu and his right wing cronies. Do you also support the illegal settlements and the continued attacks on Palestinians from the settlers."
I don't have total support for anyone, nobody is right all the time.
I don't agree with illegality either, so if the settlement is illegal then of course I won't support it.
As for innocent Palestinians and children killed then that's a tragedy. But it's one that could have been avoided. Firstly if you know you are going to be attacked and have kids then move, take them away from danger, don't stay put because Hamas tells you that you have to. Secondly don't hide terrorists or be in the vicinity of terrorists, especially if you have kids. Israel have informed Palestinians of upcoming attacks and they don't move. Their love for a religious ideology must out way their parental love.
Also when you say innocent Palestinians, they actually voted for Hamas. Knowing Hamas want to eradicate Jews and the Jewish state. So they knew conflict was coming and wanted it, or at the least have been ambivalent to it.
It is a tragedy for innocent lives to be lost, all innocent lives but you must remember choices have consequences. So if you vote for a murderous regime, who have the annihilation of the Jewish people as their main agenda, you shouldn't be surprised when they hit back. 7 million Jews killed during the Holocaust wasn't enough they want them all dead everywhere.
Hope that answers what you asked me. If not you can read my other posts if you want,
Mrs x |
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"Netanyahu and his right wing cronies have now sanctioned Haaretz a 105 year old newspaper for criticism of the Israelis war in Gaza. Yet another step in trying to hide the truth of the slaughter of innocent Palestinians Israel already forced al Jazeera to close down for being the only news agency to show what's happening in Gaza.
As long as MSM are kept out, then anything can be said and done.
We are not killing children, prove it
We are not starving children, prove it
etc."
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"Netanyahu and his right wing cronies have now sanctioned Haaretz a 105 year old newspaper for criticism of the Israelis war in Gaza. Yet another step in trying to hide the truth of the slaughter of innocent Palestinians Israel already forced al Jazeera to close down for being the only news agency to show what's happening in Gaza.
As long as MSM are kept out, then anything can be said and done.
We are not killing children, prove it
We are not starving children, prove it
etc.Are you talking about Hamas and how they use children as human shields, or how they have their thugs hijack and steal the aid that enters Gaza?
Mrs x"
Why are the IDF covering up their activities is the point.
If you justify What the IDF are doing then you must condone any nefarious activities |
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"Netanyahu and his right wing cronies have now sanctioned Haaretz a 105 year old newspaper for criticism of the Israelis war in Gaza. Yet another step in trying to hide the truth of the slaughter of innocent Palestinians Israel already forced al Jazeera to close down for being the only news agency to show what's happening in Gaza.
As long as MSM are kept out, then anything can be said and done.
We are not killing children, prove it
We are not starving children, prove it
etc.Are you talking about Hamas and how they use children as human shields, or how they have their thugs hijack and steal the aid that enters Gaza?
Mrs x
Why are the IDF covering up their activities is the point.
If you justify What the IDF are doing then you must condone any nefarious activities"
Israel has turned Gaza into the biggest refugee camp since Auschwitz.
But why have none of the 200 countries on the globe taken the refugees. (10,000 per country) |
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"Netanyahu and his right wing cronies have now sanctioned Haaretz a 105 year old newspaper for criticism of the Israelis war in Gaza. Yet another step in trying to hide the truth of the slaughter of innocent Palestinians Israel already forced al Jazeera to close down for being the only news agency to show what's happening in Gaza.
As long as MSM are kept out, then anything can be said and done.
We are not killing children, prove it
We are not starving children, prove it
etc.Are you talking about Hamas and how they use children as human shields, or how they have their thugs hijack and steal the aid that enters Gaza?
Mrs x
Why are the IDF covering up their activities is the point.
If you justify What the IDF are doing then you must condone any nefarious activities
Israel has turned Gaza into the biggest refugee camp since Auschwitz.
But why have none of the 200 countries on the globe taken the refugees. (10,000 per country)"
What you saying? You are okay with this because Hamas started it according to you in another post |
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"Netanyahu and his right wing cronies have now sanctioned Haaretz a 105 year old newspaper for criticism of the Israelis war in Gaza. Yet another step in trying to hide the truth of the slaughter of innocent Palestinians Israel already forced al Jazeera to close down for being the only news agency to show what's happening in Gaza.
As long as MSM are kept out, then anything can be said and done.
We are not killing children, prove it
We are not starving children, prove it
etc.Are you talking about Hamas and how they use children as human shields, or how they have their thugs hijack and steal the aid that enters Gaza?
Mrs x
Why are the IDF covering up their activities is the point.
If you justify What the IDF are doing then you must condone any nefarious activities"
Can I just ask if IDF are covering things up how do you know about it?
Is it a case of tge IDF not being particularly good at cover up or are you in a 'special' position in order to obtain this secret info? Did you do something professionally to gain these contacts, maybe like a medic in the Army, with tours of Ireland, Bosnia and Iraq? Something like that, maybe? Mrs x |
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"Netanyahu and his right wing cronies have now sanctioned Haaretz a 105 year old newspaper for criticism of the Israelis war in Gaza. Yet another step in trying to hide the truth of the slaughter of innocent Palestinians Israel already forced al Jazeera to close down for being the only news agency to show what's happening in Gaza.
As long as MSM are kept out, then anything can be said and done.
We are not killing children, prove it
We are not starving children, prove it
etc.Are you talking about Hamas and how they use children as human shields, or how they have their thugs hijack and steal the aid that enters Gaza?
Mrs x
Why are the IDF covering up their activities is the point.
If you justify What the IDF are doing then you must condone any nefarious activities
Israel has turned Gaza into the biggest refugee camp since Auschwitz.
But why have none of the 200 countries on the globe taken the refugees. (10,000 per country)"
Many countries are complicit by their silence, including the UK and USA, who have continued to supply arms, without effective cast iron constraints on how Israel is operating. The world is more than an onlooker, albeit Israel is shielding what's viewed. |
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"Netanyahu and his right wing cronies have now sanctioned Haaretz a 105 year old newspaper for criticism of the Israelis war in Gaza. Yet another step in trying to hide the truth of the slaughter of innocent Palestinians Israel already forced al Jazeera to close down for being the only news agency to show what's happening in Gaza.
As long as MSM are kept out, then anything can be said and done.
We are not killing children, prove it
We are not starving children, prove it
etc.Are you talking about Hamas and how they use children as human shields, or how they have their thugs hijack and steal the aid that enters Gaza?
Mrs x
Why are the IDF covering up their activities is the point.
If you justify What the IDF are doing then you must condone any nefarious activities
Israel has turned Gaza into the biggest refugee camp since Auschwitz.
But why have none of the 200 countries on the globe taken the refugees. (10,000 per country)
Many countries are complicit by their silence, including the UK and USA, who have continued to supply arms, without effective cast iron constraints on how Israel is operating. The world is more than an onlooker, albeit Israel is shielding what's viewed."
Is Sophie slut me too Mrs X?
Living in Durham when I'm actually in Cleveland? Lol |
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"Netanyahu and his right wing cronies have now sanctioned Haaretz a 105 year old newspaper for criticism of the Israelis war in Gaza. Yet another step in trying to hide the truth of the slaughter of innocent Palestinians Israel already forced al Jazeera to close down for being the only news agency to show what's happening in Gaza.
As long as MSM are kept out, then anything can be said and done.
We are not killing children, prove it
We are not starving children, prove it
etc.Are you talking about Hamas and how they use children as human shields, or how they have their thugs hijack and steal the aid that enters Gaza?
Mrs x
Why are the IDF covering up their activities is the point.
If you justify What the IDF are doing then you must condone any nefarious activities
Israel has turned Gaza into the biggest refugee camp since Auschwitz.
But why have none of the 200 countries on the globe taken the refugees. (10,000 per country)
Many countries are complicit by their silence, including the UK and USA, who have continued to supply arms, without effective cast iron constraints on how Israel is operating. The world is more than an onlooker, albeit Israel is shielding what's viewed.
Is Sophie slut me too Mrs X?
Living in Durham when I'm actually in Cleveland? Lol"
Haha, I never said you did Dan, Mrs x |
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"Netanyahu and his right wing cronies have now sanctioned Haaretz a 105 year old newspaper for criticism of the Israelis war in Gaza. Yet another step in trying to hide the truth of the slaughter of innocent Palestinians Israel already forced al Jazeera to close down for being the only news agency to show what's happening in Gaza.
As long as MSM are kept out, then anything can be said and done.
We are not killing children, prove it
We are not starving children, prove it
etc.Are you talking about Hamas and how they use children as human shields, or how they have their thugs hijack and steal the aid that enters Gaza?
Mrs x
Why are the IDF covering up their activities is the point.
If you justify What the IDF are doing then you must condone any nefarious activities
Israel has turned Gaza into the biggest refugee camp since Auschwitz.
But why have none of the 200 countries on the globe taken the refugees. (10,000 per country)
Many countries are complicit by their silence, including the UK and USA, who have continued to supply arms, without effective cast iron constraints on how Israel is operating. The world is more than an onlooker, albeit Israel is shielding what's viewed.
Is Sophie slut me too Mrs X?
Living in Durham when I'm actually in Cleveland's? LolHaha, I never said you did Dan, Mrs x"
Now that you've established who I'm not I can give you some clues my name's Steve and I my profile before started with a g.
But anyway, I agree with Sophie slut so do continue |
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"Netanyahu and his right wing cronies have now sanctioned Haaretz a 105 year old newspaper for criticism of the Israelis war in Gaza. Yet another step in trying to hide the truth of the slaughter of innocent Palestinians Israel already forced al Jazeera to close down for being the only news agency to show what's happening in Gaza.
As long as MSM are kept out, then anything can be said and done.
We are not killing children, prove it
We are not starving children, prove it
etc.Are you talking about Hamas and how they use children as human shields, or how they have their thugs hijack and steal the aid that enters Gaza?
Mrs x
Why are the IDF covering up their activities is the point.
If you justify What the IDF are doing then you must condone any nefarious activities
Israel has turned Gaza into the biggest refugee camp since Auschwitz.
But why have none of the 200 countries on the globe taken the refugees. (10,000 per country)
Many countries are complicit by their silence, including the UK and USA, who have continued to supply arms, without effective cast iron constraints on how Israel is operating. The world is more than an onlooker, albeit Israel is shielding what's viewed.
Is Sophie slut me too Mrs X?
Living in Durham when I'm actually in Cleveland's? LolHaha, I never said you did Dan, Mrs x
Now that you've established who I'm not I can give you some clues my name's Steve and I my profile before started with a g.
But anyway, I agree with Sophie slut so do continue "
Glad you agree with someone Dan, Mrs x |
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"Netanyahu and his right wing cronies have now sanctioned Haaretz a 105 year old newspaper for criticism of the Israelis war in Gaza. Yet another step in trying to hide the truth of the slaughter of innocent Palestinians Israel already forced al Jazeera to close down for being the only news agency to show what's happening in Gaza.
As long as MSM are kept out, then anything can be said and done.
We are not killing children, prove it
We are not starving children, prove it
etc.Are you talking about Hamas and how they use children as human shields, or how they have their thugs hijack and steal the aid that enters Gaza?
Mrs x
Why are the IDF covering up their activities is the point.
If you justify What the IDF are doing then you must condone any nefarious activities
Israel has turned Gaza into the biggest refugee camp since Auschwitz.
But why have none of the 200 countries on the globe taken the refugees. (10,000 per country)
Many countries are complicit by their silence, including the UK and USA, who have continued to supply arms, without effective cast iron constraints on how Israel is operating. The world is more than an onlooker, albeit Israel is shielding what's viewed.
Is Sophie slut me too Mrs X?
Living in Durham when I'm actually in Cleveland's? LolHaha, I never said you did Dan, Mrs x
Now that you've established who I'm not I can give you some clues my name's Steve and I my profile before started with a g.
But anyway, I agree with Sophie slut so do continue Glad you agree with someone Dan, Mrs x"
Are you going to reply to sophislut's post or not?
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"Netanyahu and his right wing cronies have now sanctioned Haaretz a 105 year old newspaper for criticism of the Israelis war in Gaza. Yet another step in trying to hide the truth of the slaughter of innocent Palestinians Israel already forced al Jazeera to close down for being the only news agency to show what's happening in Gaza.
As long as MSM are kept out, then anything can be said and done.
We are not killing children, prove it
We are not starving children, prove it
etc.Are you talking about Hamas and how they use children as human shields, or how they have their thugs hijack and steal the aid that enters Gaza?
Mrs x
Why are the IDF covering up their activities is the point.
If you justify What the IDF are doing then you must condone any nefarious activities
Israel has turned Gaza into the biggest refugee camp since Auschwitz.
But why have none of the 200 countries on the globe taken the refugees. (10,000 per country)
Many countries are complicit by their silence, including the UK and USA, who have continued to supply arms, without effective cast iron constraints on how Israel is operating. The world is more than an onlooker, albeit Israel is shielding what's viewed.
Is Sophie slut me too Mrs X?
Living in Durham when I'm actually in Cleveland's? LolHaha, I never said you did Dan, Mrs x
Now that you've established who I'm not I can give you some clues my name's Steve and I my profile before started with a g.
But anyway, I agree with Sophie slut so do continue Glad you agree with someone Dan, Mrs x
Are you going to reply to sophislut's post or not?
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I'm tempted not to if it bothers you. I don't know why it bothers you because you never answer anybody questions, Mrs x |
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"Netanyahu and his right wing cronies have now sanctioned Haaretz a 105 year old newspaper for criticism of the Israelis war in Gaza. Yet another step in trying to hide the truth of the slaughter of innocent Palestinians Israel already forced al Jazeera to close down for being the only news agency to show what's happening in Gaza.
As long as MSM are kept out, then anything can be said and done.
We are not killing children, prove it
We are not starving children, prove it
etc.Are you talking about Hamas and how they use children as human shields, or how they have their thugs hijack and steal the aid that enters Gaza?
Mrs x
Why are the IDF covering up their activities is the point.
If you justify What the IDF are doing then you must condone any nefarious activities
Israel has turned Gaza into the biggest refugee camp since Auschwitz.
But why have none of the 200 countries on the globe taken the refugees. (10,000 per country)
Many countries are complicit by their silence, including the UK and USA, who have continued to supply arms, without effective cast iron constraints on how Israel is operating. The world is more than an onlooker, albeit Israel is shielding what's viewed.
Is Sophie slut me too Mrs X?
Living in Durham when I'm actually in Cleveland's? LolHaha, I never said you did Dan, Mrs x
Now that you've established who I'm not I can give you some clues my name's Steve and I my profile before started with a g.
But anyway, I agree with Sophie slut so do continue Glad you agree with someone Dan, Mrs x
Are you going to reply to sophislut's post or not?
I'm tempted not to if it bothers you. I don't know why it bothers you because you never answer anybody questions, Mrs x"
Nohones asked me any. But you can if you like, I'll go easy on you |
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"Netanyahu and his right wing cronies have now sanctioned Haaretz a 105 year old newspaper for criticism of the Israelis war in Gaza. Yet another step in trying to hide the truth of the slaughter of innocent Palestinians Israel already forced al Jazeera to close down for being the only news agency to show what's happening in Gaza.
As long as MSM are kept out, then anything can be said and done.
We are not killing children, prove it
We are not starving children, prove it
etc.Are you talking about Hamas and how they use children as human shields, or how they have their thugs hijack and steal the aid that enters Gaza?
Mrs x
Why are the IDF covering up their activities is the point.
If you justify What the IDF are doing then you must condone any nefarious activities
Israel has turned Gaza into the biggest refugee camp since Auschwitz.
But why have none of the 200 countries on the globe taken the refugees. (10,000 per country)
Many countries are complicit by their silence, including the UK and USA, who have continued to supply arms, without effective cast iron constraints on how Israel is operating. The world is more than an onlooker, albeit Israel is shielding what's viewed.
Is Sophie slut me too Mrs X?
Living in Durham when I'm actually in Cleveland's? LolHaha, I never said you did Dan, Mrs x
Now that you've established who I'm not I can give you some clues my name's Steve and I my profile before started with a g.
But anyway, I agree with Sophie slut so do continue Glad you agree with someone Dan, Mrs x
Are you going to reply to sophislut's post or not?
I'm tempted not to if it bothers you. I don't know why it bothers you because you never answer anybody questions, Mrs x
Nohones asked me any. But you can if you like, I'll go easy on you"
What do you think of all the aid trucks being hijacked by Gazans after Israel have let the through the border crossing. 97 trucks were hijacked in one incident the other week. Mrs x |
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"Netanyahu and his right wing cronies have now sanctioned Haaretz a 105 year old newspaper for criticism of the Israelis war in Gaza. Yet another step in trying to hide the truth of the slaughter of innocent Palestinians Israel already forced al Jazeera to close down for being the only news agency to show what's happening in Gaza.
As long as MSM are kept out, then anything can be said and done.
We are not killing children, prove it
We are not starving children, prove it
etc.Are you talking about Hamas and how they use children as human shields, or how they have their thugs hijack and steal the aid that enters Gaza?
Mrs x
Why are the IDF covering up their activities is the point.
If you justify What the IDF are doing then you must condone any nefarious activities
Israel has turned Gaza into the biggest refugee camp since Auschwitz.
But why have none of the 200 countries on the globe taken the refugees. (10,000 per country)
Many countries are complicit by their silence, including the UK and USA, who have continued to supply arms, without effective cast iron constraints on how Israel is operating. The world is more than an onlooker, albeit Israel is shielding what's viewed.
Is Sophie slut me too Mrs X?
Living in Durham when I'm actually in Cleveland's? LolHaha, I never said you did Dan, Mrs x
Now that you've established who I'm not I can give you some clues my name's Steve and I my profile before started with a g.
But anyway, I agree with Sophie slut so do continue Glad you agree with someone Dan, Mrs x
Are you going to reply to sophislut's post or not?
I'm tempted not to if it bothers you. I don't know why it bothers you because you never answer anybody questions, Mrs x
Nohones asked me any. But you can if you like, I'll go easy on youWhat do you think of all the aid trucks being hijacked by Gazans after Israel have let the through the border crossing. 97 trucks were hijacked in one incident the other week. Mrs x"
Going by images alone I see people who are extremely desperate, for themselves for their families starving. I see no weapons just a desperate rabble
The IDF have targeted Gazan authorities like the police among others and so a breakdown in law and order.
Under UN rules, (in this case the IDF) the occupying forces have a responsibility to protect civilians and assist in the distribution of aid, including medical assistance.
They haven't done this.
Yes aid can be taken by Hamas but with proper systems in place can be mitigated a lot by UN forces distributing aid and even running kitchens for example but Israel won't allow it, fuelling accusations against Israel.
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"Question: are Hamas still in control of the Gaza as in social care, policing, etc and the people? "
My guess is no, due to civil authorities like the police plus the huge destruction to infrastructure buildings roads electric water sanitation |
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Haaretz have repeatedly sent a strong message to the likud government over the last year about their "genocidal actions not being committed in the name of the majority of jews". Are the jewish journalists of the oldest jewish newspaper (whose banner reads 'Haaretz Newspaper in Israel, gives you breaking news, analyses and opinions about Israel, the Middle East and the Jewish World') being anti-semitic because they aren't citing the actions of other nations in that condemnation or is it absurd to accuse the jewish journalists of a jewish newspaper of being anti-semitic? |
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"Haaretz have repeatedly sent a strong message to the likud government over the last year about their "genocidal actions not being committed in the name of the majority of jews". Are the jewish journalists of the oldest jewish newspaper (whose banner reads 'Haaretz Newspaper in Israel, gives you breaking news, analyses and opinions about Israel, the Middle East and the Jewish World') being anti-semitic because they aren't citing the actions of other nations in that condemnation or is it absurd to accuse the jewish journalists of a jewish newspaper of being anti-semitic?"
If the (fictional newspaper for black New Yorkers) Harlem Chronicle ran a feature about how black parents need to take more responsibility for the whereabouts and actions of their children, due to levels of crime in the area, it's not racist. If the New York Times ran a weekly column on the front page bemoaning a "black crime wave", giving a running total of crimes committed by blacks (while ignoring, say, the greater number of crimes committed by the Italian and Russian mafias) then that would be problematic. And is very different to a publication that specialises in the positive, negative and everything aspects of that group, rather than a generalist publication. Ha'aretz also publishes the good stuff about Israel, the newsworthy stuff about the Jewish world. Some publications seek only to castigate. Moreover, Ha'aretz does indeed address all issues in all countries in the Middle East. They do cite the issues with other countries. Nobody says that, within a statement condemning one group, you must condemn all groups. But when one group is called out over and over and other groups are largely ignored, it raises questions. anti-Semitism is often too strong an answer to that question, but it's still a question. |
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"Haaretz have repeatedly sent a strong message to the likud government over the last year about their "genocidal actions not being committed in the name of the majority of jews". Are the jewish journalists of the oldest jewish newspaper (whose banner reads 'Haaretz Newspaper in Israel, gives you breaking news, analyses and opinions about Israel, the Middle East and the Jewish World') being anti-semitic because they aren't citing the actions of other nations in that condemnation or is it absurd to accuse the jewish journalists of a jewish newspaper of being anti-semitic?
If the (fictional newspaper for black New Yorkers) Harlem Chronicle ran a feature about how black parents need to take more responsibility for the whereabouts and actions of their children, due to levels of crime in the area, it's not racist. If the New York Times ran a weekly column on the front page bemoaning a "black crime wave", giving a running total of crimes committed by blacks (while ignoring, say, the greater number of crimes committed by the Italian and Russian mafias) then that would be problematic. And is very different to a publication that specialises in the positive, negative and everything aspects of that group, rather than a generalist publication. Ha'aretz also publishes the good stuff about Israel, the newsworthy stuff about the Jewish world. Some publications seek only to castigate. Moreover, Ha'aretz does indeed address all issues in all countries in the Middle East. They do cite the issues with other countries. Nobody says that, within a statement condemning one group, you must condemn all groups. But when one group is called out over and over and other groups are largely ignored, it raises questions. anti-Semitism is often too strong an answer to that question, but it's still a question."
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"Haaretz have repeatedly sent a strong message to the likud government over the last year about their "genocidal actions not being committed in the name of the majority of jews". Are the jewish journalists of the oldest jewish newspaper (whose banner reads 'Haaretz Newspaper in Israel, gives you breaking news, analyses and opinions about Israel, the Middle East and the Jewish World') being anti-semitic because they aren't citing the actions of other nations in that condemnation or is it absurd to accuse the jewish journalists of a jewish newspaper of being anti-semitic?
If the (fictional newspaper for black New Yorkers) Harlem Chronicle ran a feature about how black parents need to take more responsibility for the whereabouts and actions of their children, due to levels of crime in the area, it's not racist. If the New York Times ran a weekly column on the front page bemoaning a "black crime wave", giving a running total of crimes committed by blacks (while ignoring, say, the greater number of crimes committed by the Italian and Russian mafias) then that would be problematic. And is very different to a publication that specialises in the positive, negative and everything aspects of that group, rather than a generalist publication. Ha'aretz also publishes the good stuff about Israel, the newsworthy stuff about the Jewish world. Some publications seek only to castigate. Moreover, Ha'aretz does indeed address all issues in all countries in the Middle East. They do cite the issues with other countries. Nobody says that, within a statement condemning one group, you must condemn all groups. But when one group is called out over and over and other groups are largely ignored, it raises questions. anti-Semitism is often too strong an answer to that question, but it's still a question.
was that a yes or a no then?"
You're asking for a yes or no to a multi-part either/or question.
You have your answer above. If you don't like a complicated answer, don't ask complicated questions, with a sentence that spans 9 lines. A yes or no invites one to either agree or disagree with everything said. Sometimes it's nuanced. |
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"Haaretz have repeatedly sent a strong message to the likud government over the last year about their "genocidal actions not being committed in the name of the majority of jews". Are the jewish journalists of the oldest jewish newspaper (whose banner reads 'Haaretz Newspaper in Israel, gives you breaking news, analyses and opinions about Israel, the Middle East and the Jewish World') being anti-semitic because they aren't citing the actions of other nations in that condemnation or is it absurd to accuse the jewish journalists of a jewish newspaper of being anti-semitic?
If the (fictional newspaper for black New Yorkers) Harlem Chronicle ran a feature about how black parents need to take more responsibility for the whereabouts and actions of their children, due to levels of crime in the area, it's not racist. If the New York Times ran a weekly column on the front page bemoaning a "black crime wave", giving a running total of crimes committed by blacks (while ignoring, say, the greater number of crimes committed by the Italian and Russian mafias) then that would be problematic. And is very different to a publication that specialises in the positive, negative and everything aspects of that group, rather than a generalist publication. Ha'aretz also publishes the good stuff about Israel, the newsworthy stuff about the Jewish world. Some publications seek only to castigate. Moreover, Ha'aretz does indeed address all issues in all countries in the Middle East. They do cite the issues with other countries. Nobody says that, within a statement condemning one group, you must condemn all groups. But when one group is called out over and over and other groups are largely ignored, it raises questions. anti-Semitism is often too strong an answer to that question, but it's still a question.
was that a yes or a no then?
You're asking for a yes or no to a multi-part either/or question.
You have your answer above. If you don't like a complicated answer, don't ask complicated questions, with a sentence that spans 9 lines. A yes or no invites one to either agree or disagree with everything said. Sometimes it's nuanced."
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Netanyahu wrote a book in the 1990s "fighting terrorism"
The thesis is eye opening.
It details not how to directly fight a "terrorist " group but how to tope governments that back them.
In there thers mention of toppling Libya, iraq, Sudan etc.. and the USA has done it's bidding (steered by lobbyists in America)
The current big target now being to get the USA into a direct conflict with Iran.
All good destabilising the middle east for the benefit of Israel.
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