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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !!" Have you considered the Reforms party? | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !!" Thank god the majority of them arrived here safely, time to get them processed, and those legally allowed to stay can help fill some of there job vacancies . However, this a minor issue, the labour government have far bigger issues to deal with | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! Have you considered the Reforms party?" Why, were they going to smash the gangs, like Keir? | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! Thank god the majority of them arrived here safely, time to get them processed, and those legally allowed to stay can help fill some of there job vacancies . However, this a minor issue, the labour government have far bigger issues to deal with " The problem is they ALL stay, and moreover a proportion of them thank us by becoming people smugglers themselves. I'm sure even the Labour party can address more than one issue at a time, they did pledge to after all. | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! Have you considered the Reforms party? Why, were they going to smash the gangs, like Keir?" Don't think so, they just prey on people who are constantly panicking about foriegners. | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! Thank god the majority of them arrived here safely, time to get them processed, and those legally allowed to stay can help fill some of there job vacancies . However, this a minor issue, the labour government have far bigger issues to deal with The problem is they ALL stay, and moreover a proportion of them thank us by becoming people smugglers themselves. I'm sure even the Labour party can address more than one issue at a time, they did pledge to after all." Then they are all legal immigrants, labour will sort it, numbers are down | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! Thank god the majority of them arrived here safely, time to get them processed, and those legally allowed to stay can help fill some of there job vacancies . However, this a minor issue, the labour government have far bigger issues to deal with The problem is they ALL stay, and moreover a proportion of them thank us by becoming people smugglers themselves. I'm sure even the Labour party can address more than one issue at a time, they did pledge to after all. Then they are all legal immigrants, labour will sort it, numbers are down " Yes Labour will probably wave a wand and cast a Vanishing Spell on illegals. Suddenly they'll be much-sought after Doctors, Engineers and Architects. The woke will believe it too, that's the alarming thing. | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! Thank god the majority of them arrived here safely, time to get them processed, and those legally allowed to stay can help fill some of there job vacancies . However, this a minor issue, the labour government have far bigger issues to deal with The problem is they ALL stay, and moreover a proportion of them thank us by becoming people smugglers themselves. I'm sure even the Labour party can address more than one issue at a time, they did pledge to after all. Then they are all legal immigrants, labour will sort it, numbers are down Yes Labour will probably wave a wand and cast a Vanishing Spell on illegals. Suddenly they'll be much-sought after Doctors, Engineers and Architects. The woke will believe it too, that's the alarming thing." That’s the spirit | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !!" "Will of the people" | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! Have you considered the Reforms party?" Never change  | |||
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"Trumps fault because he sexually abuses women " ain’t that the truth on here pmsl | |||
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"Trumps fault because he sexually abuses women " He does, but it's not his fault that half of Fab is in a constant state of panic about immigrants. | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! Have you considered the Reforms party? Never change "Well it's a good question! | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! Have you considered the Reforms party? Never change
Well it's a good question!"What I have noticed on here is that the first rule of reform voters club is never to admit you’re in reform voters club | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat." Have you considered joining reform?  | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat." Can you point out the posts calling anyone racist ? | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Can you point out the posts calling anyone racist ? " What does "Have you considered joining reform party?" mean? | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Can you point out the posts calling anyone racist ? What does "Have you considered joining reform party?" mean?" Hold on, are you stating that the reform party are only supported by racists? | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Can you point out the posts calling anyone racist ? What does "Have you considered joining reform party?" mean? Hold on, are you stating that the reform party are only supported by racists? " I am saying people repeatedly copy pasting that message on all threads like a Russian bot are stating that. | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Can you point out the posts calling anyone racist ? What does "Have you considered joining reform party?" mean? Hold on, are you stating that the reform party are only supported by racists? I am saying people repeatedly copy pasting that message on all threads like a Russian bot are stating that." Are they? I haven’t seen that accusation, I will keep my eye out for it | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Can you point out the posts calling anyone racist ? What does "Have you considered joining reform party?" mean? Hold on, are you stating that the reform party are only supported by racists? I am saying people repeatedly copy pasting that message on all threads like a Russian bot are stating that. Are they? I haven’t seen that accusation, I will keep my eye out for it " So according to you, reform party is racist or not? | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !!" Add 215,500 on the home office asylum claim backlog, including 63,000 given right to stay by Labour last month | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Can you point out the posts calling anyone racist ? What does "Have you considered joining reform party?" mean? Hold on, are you stating that the reform party are only supported by racists? I am saying people repeatedly copy pasting that message on all threads like a Russian bot are stating that. Are they? I haven’t seen that accusation, I will keep my eye out for it So according to you, reform party is racist or not?" No, it’s not racist , I am not sure if Farage is racist but he is seeing the light and learning that overt racism won’t win elections . He has distanced himself from Stephen Lennon and his supporters so that is good | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! Add 215,500 on the home office asylum claim backlog, including 63,000 given right to stay by Labour last month " That’s great news, they are flying through the applications, impressive | |||
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" So according to you, reform party is racist or not?" Are there concerns the Reform Party is racist!? | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Can you point out the posts calling anyone racist ? What does "Have you considered joining reform party?" mean? Hold on, are you stating that the reform party are only supported by racists? I am saying people repeatedly copy pasting that message on all threads like a Russian bot are stating that. Are they? I haven’t seen that accusation, I will keep my eye out for it So according to you, reform party is racist or not? No, it’s not racist , I am not sure if Farage is racist but he is seeing the light and learning that overt racism won’t win elections . He has distanced himself from Stephen Lennon and his supporters so that is good " Fair enough  | |||
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" So according to you, reform party is racist or not? Are there concerns the Reform Party is racist!?" I very well remember another thread where people said reform party was racist, around the time of elections | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !!" Not a promising start but he still has time to smash the gangs as promised. Be nice to see some progress on that though. It's a hot topic and solving this would be a major boost | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! Not a promising start but he still has time to smash the gangs as promised. Be nice to see some progress on that though. It's a hot topic and solving this would be a major boost" How though? They are cross-border operations falling in multiple legal jurisdictions. Not to mention the unwillingness of our neighbours to co-ordinate a response. | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! Not a promising start but he still has time to smash the gangs as promised. Be nice to see some progress on that though. It's a hot topic and solving this would be a major boost How though? They are cross-border operations falling in multiple legal jurisdictions. Not to mention the unwillingness of our neighbours to co-ordinate a response." Because Kier said so and its the will of the people. Surely you don't want more than that | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat." We can't have sensible conversations about it when so many people are so blindly blaming immigrants for anything and everything. Of course, as you know, this is by design. Millions voted Reform at the last election. | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. We can't have sensible conversations about it when so many people are so blindly blaming immigrants for anything and everything. Of course, as you know, this is by design. Millions voted Reform at the last election. " People have been pointing out real issues like economic burden and social incompatibility of these people. No one is "blindly" blaming immigrants for everything. I have never seen you address these points. If anything you are the one who blindly posts the same meaningless post of "have you considered joining reform?" And you are complaining that others are being blind? | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. We can't have sensible conversations about it when so many people are so blindly blaming immigrants for anything and everything. Of course, as you know, this is by design. Millions voted Reform at the last election. People have been pointing out real issues like economic burden and social incompatibility of these people. No one is "blindly" blaming immigrants for everything. I have never seen you address these points. If anything you are the one who blindly posts the same meaningless post of "have you considered joining reform?" And you are complaining that others are being blind? "Any chance of sticking to the topic? If you want to discuss me, maybe start a new thread? | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! Not a promising start but he still has time to smash the gangs as promised. Be nice to see some progress on that though. It's a hot topic and solving this would be a major boost" It's funny because Priti Patel was doing the "smash the gangs" stuff years back. She was posting videos where she was even accompanying the police during their arrests. TwoTierKeir has just copied Priti Patel's idea and people think that's cool  | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. We can't have sensible conversations about it when so many people are so blindly blaming immigrants for anything and everything. Of course, as you know, this is by design. Millions voted Reform at the last election. People have been pointing out real issues like economic burden and social incompatibility of these people. No one is "blindly" blaming immigrants for everything. I have never seen you address these points. If anything you are the one who blindly posts the same meaningless post of "have you considered joining reform?" And you are complaining that others are being blind?
Any chance of sticking to the topic? If you want to discuss me, maybe start a new thread?"Is copy pasting "have you considered joining reform" on every thread discussing the topic? | |||
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"have you read reform policies? maybe we should all join reform "I'll summarise for you: Science isn't real, everything is the fault of foreigners. | |||
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"have you read reform policies? maybe we should all join reform
I'll summarise for you: Science isn't real, everything is the fault of foreigners. "seriously go read it. | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. We can't have sensible conversations about it when so many people are so blindly blaming immigrants for anything and everything. Of course, as you know, this is by design. Millions voted Reform at the last election. People have been pointing out real issues like economic burden and social incompatibility of these people. No one is "blindly" blaming immigrants for everything. I have never seen you address these points. If anything you are the one who blindly posts the same meaningless post of "have you considered joining reform?" And you are complaining that others are being blind?
Any chance of sticking to the topic? If you want to discuss me, maybe start a new thread?
Is copy pasting "have you considered joining reform" on every thread discussing the topic?"No one is posting this on every topic. So no need to worry. | |||
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"have you read reform policies? maybe we should all join reform
I'll summarise for you: Science isn't real, everything is the fault of foreigners.
seriously go read it."I did prior to the election. No need to reread that pile of bollocks again. Thanks though. | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. We can't have sensible conversations about it when so many people are so blindly blaming immigrants for anything and everything. Of course, as you know, this is by design. Millions voted Reform at the last election. People have been pointing out real issues like economic burden and social incompatibility of these people. No one is "blindly" blaming immigrants for everything. I have never seen you address these points. If anything you are the one who blindly posts the same meaningless post of "have you considered joining reform?" And you are complaining that others are being blind?
Any chance of sticking to the topic? If you want to discuss me, maybe start a new thread?
Is copy pasting "have you considered joining reform" on every thread discussing the topic?
No one is posting this on every topic. So no need to worry. "Pretty much every thread on immigration has this lame reply that you post which is completely unrelated to what other posters are saying. You want people to stay on topic. Yet wheb people stay on topic and point out the economic and social issues, you run away from the debate. | |||
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"have you read reform policies? maybe we should all join reform
I'll summarise for you: Science isn't real, everything is the fault of foreigners.
seriously go read it.
I did prior to the election. No need to reread that pile of bollocks again. Thanks though. "right,which part is bollocks then? | |||
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"have you read reform policies? maybe we should all join reform
I'll summarise for you: Science isn't real, everything is the fault of foreigners.
seriously go read it.
I did prior to the election. No need to reread that pile of bollocks again. Thanks though. "I have read their policies. It doesn't say either of these lines. So you have to help us and point out where exactly in their policies they mention any of these | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. We can't have sensible conversations about it when so many people are so blindly blaming immigrants for anything and everything. Of course, as you know, this is by design. Millions voted Reform at the last election. People have been pointing out real issues like economic burden and social incompatibility of these people. No one is "blindly" blaming immigrants for everything. I have never seen you address these points. If anything you are the one who blindly posts the same meaningless post of "have you considered joining reform?" And you are complaining that others are being blind?
Any chance of sticking to the topic? If you want to discuss me, maybe start a new thread?
Is copy pasting "have you considered joining reform" on every thread discussing the topic?
No one is posting this on every topic. So no need to worry.
Pretty much every thread on immigration has this lame reply that you post which is completely unrelated to what other posters are saying. You want people to stay on topic. Yet wheb people stay on topic and point out the economic and social issues, you run away from the debate."Any chance of sticking to the topic? If you want to discuss me, maybe start a new thread? | |||
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"have you read reform policies? maybe we should all join reform
I'll summarise for you: Science isn't real, everything is the fault of foreigners.
seriously go read it.
I did prior to the election. No need to reread that pile of bollocks again. Thanks though.
right,which part is bollocks then?"All of it. Science is real. Foreigners don't cause all your problems. | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. We can't have sensible conversations about it when so many people are so blindly blaming immigrants for anything and everything. Of course, as you know, this is by design. Millions voted Reform at the last election. People have been pointing out real issues like economic burden and social incompatibility of these people. No one is "blindly" blaming immigrants for everything. I have never seen you address these points. If anything you are the one who blindly posts the same meaningless post of "have you considered joining reform?" And you are complaining that others are being blind?
Any chance of sticking to the topic? If you want to discuss me, maybe start a new thread?
Is copy pasting "have you considered joining reform" on every thread discussing the topic?
No one is posting this on every topic. So no need to worry.
Pretty much every thread on immigration has this lame reply that you post which is completely unrelated to what other posters are saying. You want people to stay on topic. Yet wheb people stay on topic and point out the economic and social issues, you run away from the debate.
Any chance of sticking to the topic? If you want to discuss me, maybe start a new thread?"Sticking to the topic, people have been asking you multiple times about which of refor's policies say "science isn't real" and "foreigners are cause for all your problems". I just checked their policies again. I don't find anything like that. As a pro-science guy who hates daily mail fake news, can you share us some reliable evidence for what you said? | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. We can't have sensible conversations about it when so many people are so blindly blaming immigrants for anything and everything. Of course, as you know, this is by design. Millions voted Reform at the last election. People have been pointing out real issues like economic burden and social incompatibility of these people. No one is "blindly" blaming immigrants for everything. I have never seen you address these points. If anything you are the one who blindly posts the same meaningless post of "have you considered joining reform?" And you are complaining that others are being blind?
Any chance of sticking to the topic? If you want to discuss me, maybe start a new thread?
Is copy pasting "have you considered joining reform" on every thread discussing the topic?
No one is posting this on every topic. So no need to worry.
Pretty much every thread on immigration has this lame reply that you post which is completely unrelated to what other posters are saying. You want people to stay on topic. Yet wheb people stay on topic and point out the economic and social issues, you run away from the debate.
Any chance of sticking to the topic? If you want to discuss me, maybe start a new thread?
Sticking to the topic, people have been asking you multiple times about which of refor's policies say "science isn't real" and "foreigners are cause for all your problems". I just checked their policies again. I don't find anything like that. As a pro-science guy who hates daily mail fake news, can you share us some reliable evidence for what you said?"he can't  | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. We can't have sensible conversations about it when so many people are so blindly blaming immigrants for anything and everything. Of course, as you know, this is by design. Millions voted Reform at the last election. People have been pointing out real issues like economic burden and social incompatibility of these people. No one is "blindly" blaming immigrants for everything. I have never seen you address these points. If anything you are the one who blindly posts the same meaningless post of "have you considered joining reform?" And you are complaining that others are being blind?
Any chance of sticking to the topic? If you want to discuss me, maybe start a new thread?
Is copy pasting "have you considered joining reform" on every thread discussing the topic?
No one is posting this on every topic. So no need to worry.
Pretty much every thread on immigration has this lame reply that you post which is completely unrelated to what other posters are saying. You want people to stay on topic. Yet wheb people stay on topic and point out the economic and social issues, you run away from the debate."*********************************** And has done many times previously. Mind you, the other contradictory 'contributor' has re-appeared and is busy making a total mess of any thread. Don't feed them, they get off on it. Some folk need a good steady job. | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Can you point out the posts calling anyone racist ? What does "Have you considered joining reform party?" mean? Hold on, are you stating that the reform party are only supported by racists? I am saying people repeatedly copy pasting that message on all threads like a Russian bot are stating that." Johhny you need to tell me now if you're a bot | |||
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"I don’t know how you English can put up with that and still have voted labour" Most didn't, I didn't even bother voting this time and if I did, it would of been for reform So to save any future remarks, yes, I've considered joining reform | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Can you point out the posts calling anyone racist ? What does "Have you considered joining reform party?" mean? Hold on, are you stating that the reform party are only supported by racists? I am saying people repeatedly copy pasting that message on all threads like a Russian bot are stating that. Johhny you need to tell me now if you're a bot" Let's try to stay on topic. If you and the other chap want to discuss me, start a new thread maybe? Back to panicking about immigrants. | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Can you point out the posts calling anyone racist ? What does "Have you considered joining reform party?" mean? Hold on, are you stating that the reform party are only supported by racists? I am saying people repeatedly copy pasting that message on all threads like a Russian bot are stating that. Johhny you need to tell me now if you're a bot Let's try to stay on topic. If you and the other chap want to discuss me, start a new thread maybe? Back to panicking about immigrants. "We have been trying stay on topic and asked you for some evidence for a couple of statements you made. We still haven't got it yet. At this point, whatever you said looks like fake news. | |||
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"Hungary has pronounced that it will block an UK/EU deal on breaking-up people smuggling across the continent. This is the problem we face - blatant self-interest over co-operation. The one and only effective measure is to physically return the dinghies to their point of departure. This will mean we have to face-down France, and it will get unpleasant. But what's the alternative? To gormlessly sit and watch our borders breached every day of the week?" The solution is to see the refugee convention for the farce that it is. Instead of dealing with the root cause of the problem, politicians are trying to fix it in roundabout ways, none of which are working | |||
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"Hungary has pronounced that it will block an UK/EU deal on breaking-up people smuggling across the continent. This is the problem we face - blatant self-interest over co-operation. The one and only effective measure is to physically return the dinghies to their point of departure. This will mean we have to face-down France, and it will get unpleasant. But what's the alternative? To gormlessly sit and watch our borders breached every day of the week? The solution is to see the refugee convention for the farce that it is. Instead of dealing with the root cause of the problem, politicians are trying to fix it in roundabout ways, none of which are working " I agree. All BS aside, the only solution in reality is a confrontation with France, and admittedly that's not a great prospect. But neither is paying them to do their own policing. | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Can you point out the posts calling anyone racist ? What does "Have you considered joining reform party?" mean? Hold on, are you stating that the reform party are only supported by racists? I am saying people repeatedly copy pasting that message on all threads like a Russian bot are stating that. Johhny you need to tell me now if you're a bot Let's try to stay on topic. If you and the other chap want to discuss me, start a new thread maybe? Back to panicking about immigrants. "You come out with the same shite all the time about joining Reform or panicking about immigrants, then when people question you about it it’s can we stay on topic, If people were actually panicking about immigration they would do something about it, They just want genuine answers to why are we letting in so many people when are services are underfunded and under pressure | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Can you point out the posts calling anyone racist ? What does "Have you considered joining reform party?" mean? Hold on, are you stating that the reform party are only supported by racists? I am saying people repeatedly copy pasting that message on all threads like a Russian bot are stating that. Johhny you need to tell me now if you're a bot Let's try to stay on topic. If you and the other chap want to discuss me, start a new thread maybe? Back to panicking about immigrants.
You come out with the same shite all the time about joining Reform or panicking about immigrants, then when people question you about it it’s can we stay on topic, If people were actually panicking about immigration they would do something about it, They just want genuine answers to why are we letting in so many people when are services are underfunded and under pressure "Do you blame labour for the current levels of immigration? | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! Thank god the majority of them arrived here safely, time to get them processed, and those legally allowed to stay can help fill some of there job vacancies . However, this a minor issue, the labour government have far bigger issues to deal with " The bigger issue is housing them. How meny homes have been built in the last 100 days? Remember 1.5 million promised | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Can you point out the posts calling anyone racist ? What does "Have you considered joining reform party?" mean? Hold on, are you stating that the reform party are only supported by racists? I am saying people repeatedly copy pasting that message on all threads like a Russian bot are stating that. Johhny you need to tell me now if you're a bot Let's try to stay on topic. If you and the other chap want to discuss me, start a new thread maybe? Back to panicking about immigrants.
You come out with the same shite all the time about joining Reform or panicking about immigrants, then when people question you about it it’s can we stay on topic, If people were actually panicking about immigration they would do something about it, They just want genuine answers to why are we letting in so many people when are services are underfunded and under pressure
Do you blame labour for the current levels of immigration? "They’re all at fault in letting it go on for so long without addressing the problems | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! Thank god the majority of them arrived here safely, time to get them processed, and those legally allowed to stay can help fill some of there job vacancies . However, this a minor issue, the labour government have far bigger issues to deal with The bigger issue is housing them. How meny homes have been built in the last 100 days? Remember 1.5 million promised " I think it takes longer than 100 days to build a house, could be wrong though | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Can you point out the posts calling anyone racist ? What does "Have you considered joining reform party?" mean? Hold on, are you stating that the reform party are only supported by racists? I am saying people repeatedly copy pasting that message on all threads like a Russian bot are stating that. Johhny you need to tell me now if you're a bot Let's try to stay on topic. If you and the other chap want to discuss me, start a new thread maybe? Back to panicking about immigrants.
You come out with the same shite all the time about joining Reform or panicking about immigrants, then when people question you about it it’s can we stay on topic, If people were actually panicking about immigration they would do something about it, They just want genuine answers to why are we letting in so many people when are services are underfunded and under pressure
Do you blame labour for the current levels of immigration?
They’re all at fault in letting it go on for so long without addressing the problems "Fair enough , tbh , I thought Brexit was supposed to solve this ‘issue’ , taking back control etc | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! Thank god the majority of them arrived here safely, time to get them processed, and those legally allowed to stay can help fill some of there job vacancies . However, this a minor issue, the labour government have far bigger issues to deal with The bigger issue is housing them. How meny homes have been built in the last 100 days? Remember 1.5 million promised I think it takes longer than 100 days to build a house, could be wrong though " It might but if you promise 1,500,000 and build none in the first year your left with over 1000 a day in the next 4 years. Do the math | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! Thank god the majority of them arrived here safely, time to get them processed, and those legally allowed to stay can help fill some of there job vacancies . However, this a minor issue, the labour government have far bigger issues to deal with The bigger issue is housing them. How meny homes have been built in the last 100 days? Remember 1.5 million promised I think it takes longer than 100 days to build a house, could be wrong though It might but if you promise 1,500,000 and build none in the first year your left with over 1000 a day in the next 4 years. Do the math " Have they been in government for a year? | |||
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"I hope all our new neighbours hold suitability woke opinions or things might go awry. I imagine Yvette Cooper is arranging lessons on intersectionality and gender neutral toilets for everyone. "Toilets are now woke? | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Can you point out the posts calling anyone racist ? What does "Have you considered joining reform party?" mean? Hold on, are you stating that the reform party are only supported by racists? I am saying people repeatedly copy pasting that message on all threads like a Russian bot are stating that. Johhny you need to tell me now if you're a bot Let's try to stay on topic. If you and the other chap want to discuss me, start a new thread maybe? Back to panicking about immigrants.
You come out with the same shite all the time about joining Reform or panicking about immigrants, then when people question you about it it’s can we stay on topic, If people were actually panicking about immigration they would do something about it, They just want genuine answers to why are we letting in so many people when are services are underfunded and under pressure
Do you blame labour for the current levels of immigration?
They’re all at fault in letting it go on for so long without addressing the problems "This is true. Last 14 years the Tories failed again and again on this problem. Lots of promises but little action. I feel it was a significant negative for them at the GE. Labour made promises before the GE about how they will tackle this situation so now they are interior seat. Time for complaining about others plans are long over. They have to own the results themselves and be judged on them. Winter months should see a natural reduction so they need to get their act together before the spring | |||
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"I hope all our new neighbours hold suitability woke opinions or things might go awry. I imagine Yvette Cooper is arranging lessons on intersectionality and gender neutral toilets for everyone.
Toilets are now woke? "What's wrong with building toilet blocks to cater for 24 genders eh? | |||
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"I hope all our new neighbours hold suitability woke opinions or things might go awry. I imagine Yvette Cooper is arranging lessons on intersectionality and gender neutral toilets for everyone.
Toilets are now woke?
What's wrong with building toilet blocks to cater for 24 genders eh?"24 genders  , | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Can you point out the posts calling anyone racist ? What does "Have you considered joining reform party?" mean? Hold on, are you stating that the reform party are only supported by racists? I am saying people repeatedly copy pasting that message on all threads like a Russian bot are stating that. Johhny you need to tell me now if you're a bot Let's try to stay on topic. If you and the other chap want to discuss me, start a new thread maybe? Back to panicking about immigrants.
We have been trying stay on topic and asked you for some evidence for a couple of statements you made. We still haven't got it yet. At this point, whatever you said looks like fake news. "Let's try to stay on topic. If you and the other chap want to discuss me, start a new thread maybe? | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Can you point out the posts calling anyone racist ? What does "Have you considered joining reform party?" mean? Hold on, are you stating that the reform party are only supported by racists? I am saying people repeatedly copy pasting that message on all threads like a Russian bot are stating that. Johhny you need to tell me now if you're a bot Let's try to stay on topic. If you and the other chap want to discuss me, start a new thread maybe? Back to panicking about immigrants.
We have been trying stay on topic and asked you for some evidence for a couple of statements you made. We still haven't got it yet. At this point, whatever you said looks like fake news.
Let's try to stay on topic.
If you and the other chap want to discuss me, start a new thread maybe?"So you are hear spreading fake news. We ask for evidence from you. You are complaining that it is somehow a personal attack? | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Can you point out the posts calling anyone racist ? What does "Have you considered joining reform party?" mean? Hold on, are you stating that the reform party are only supported by racists? I am saying people repeatedly copy pasting that message on all threads like a Russian bot are stating that. Johhny you need to tell me now if you're a bot Let's try to stay on topic. If you and the other chap want to discuss me, start a new thread maybe? Back to panicking about immigrants.
We have been trying stay on topic and asked you for some evidence for a couple of statements you made. We still haven't got it yet. At this point, whatever you said looks like fake news.
Let's try to stay on topic.
If you and the other chap want to discuss me, start a new thread maybe?
So you are hear spreading fake news.
We ask for evidence from you.
You are complaining that it is somehow a personal attack? "Let's try to stay on topic. If you and the other chap want to discuss me, start a new thread maybe?" | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Can you point out the posts calling anyone racist ? What does "Have you considered joining reform party?" mean? Hold on, are you stating that the reform party are only supported by racists? I am saying people repeatedly copy pasting that message on all threads like a Russian bot are stating that. Johhny you need to tell me now if you're a bot Let's try to stay on topic. If you and the other chap want to discuss me, start a new thread maybe? Back to panicking about immigrants.
We have been trying stay on topic and asked you for some evidence for a couple of statements you made. We still haven't got it yet. At this point, whatever you said looks like fake news.
Let's try to stay on topic.
If you and the other chap want to discuss me, start a new thread maybe?
So you are hear spreading fake news.
We ask for evidence from you.
You are complaining that it is somehow a personal attack?
Let's try to stay on topic.
If you and the other chap want to discuss me, start a new thread maybe?""But I am staying on topic. Tell us where you found those reform policies | |||
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"have you read reform policies? maybe we should all join reform
I'll summarise for you: Science isn't real, everything is the fault of foreigners.
seriously go read it.
I did prior to the election. No need to reread that pile of bollocks again. Thanks though.
right,which part is bollocks then?
All of it.
Science is real.
Foreigners don't cause all your problems. "until new science proves the old science were wrong 😏 | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! Thank god the majority of them arrived here safely, time to get them processed, and those legally allowed to stay can help fill some of there job vacancies . However, this a minor issue, the labour government have far bigger issues to deal with The bigger issue is housing them. How meny homes have been built in the last 100 days? Remember 1.5 million promised I think it takes longer than 100 days to build a house, could be wrong though " no thats do able on a well organised project from dig to handover, planning will take al lot longer tho but should be done years in advance to a site starting | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! Thank god the majority of them arrived here safely, time to get them processed, and those legally allowed to stay can help fill some of there job vacancies . However, this a minor issue, the labour government have far bigger issues to deal with The bigger issue is housing them. How meny homes have been built in the last 100 days? Remember 1.5 million promised I think it takes longer than 100 days to build a house, could be wrong though no thats do able on a well organised project from dig to handover, planning will take al lot longer tho but should be done years in advance to a site starting " problem is all our working foreigners went back home during rona and in came some non working ones | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Can you point out the posts calling anyone racist ? What does "Have you considered joining reform party?" mean? Hold on, are you stating that the reform party are only supported by racists? I am saying people repeatedly copy pasting that message on all threads like a Russian bot are stating that. Johhny you need to tell me now if you're a bot Let's try to stay on topic. If you and the other chap want to discuss me, start a new thread maybe? Back to panicking about immigrants.
We have been trying stay on topic and asked you for some evidence for a couple of statements you made. We still haven't got it yet. At this point, whatever you said looks like fake news.
Let's try to stay on topic.
If you and the other chap want to discuss me, start a new thread maybe?
So you are hear spreading fake news.
We ask for evidence from you.
You are complaining that it is somehow a personal attack?
Let's try to stay on topic.
If you and the other chap want to discuss me, start a new thread maybe?"
But I am staying on topic. Tell us where you found those reform policies "On their website. | |||
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"have you read reform policies? maybe we should all join reform
I'll summarise for you: Science isn't real, everything is the fault of foreigners.
seriously go read it.
I did prior to the election. No need to reread that pile of bollocks again. Thanks though.
right,which part is bollocks then?
All of it.
Science is real.
Foreigners don't cause all your problems. until new science proves the old science were wrong 😏"I don't think you misunderstanding how science works is proof that it's not real. | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Can you point out the posts calling anyone racist ? What does "Have you considered joining reform party?" mean? Hold on, are you stating that the reform party are only supported by racists? I am saying people repeatedly copy pasting that message on all threads like a Russian bot are stating that. Johhny you need to tell me now if you're a bot Let's try to stay on topic. If you and the other chap want to discuss me, start a new thread maybe? Back to panicking about immigrants.
We have been trying stay on topic and asked you for some evidence for a couple of statements you made. We still haven't got it yet. At this point, whatever you said looks like fake news.
Let's try to stay on topic.
If you and the other chap want to discuss me, start a new thread maybe?
So you are hear spreading fake news.
We ask for evidence from you.
You are complaining that it is somehow a personal attack?
Let's try to stay on topic.
If you and the other chap want to discuss me, start a new thread maybe?"
But I am staying on topic. Tell us where you found those reform policies
On their website."I opened the pdf from their website. I couldn't find anything that you said. About climate change, they told that they would remove the forced net zero targets and invest in SMRs instead. Far from "science is not real" claim that you are making. I didn't see them saying "foreigners are cause of all your problems" either. If you are really confident tgat it's their policy, it would be great if you tell us all which page it is. | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Can you point out the posts calling anyone racist ? What does "Have you considered joining reform party?" mean? Hold on, are you stating that the reform party are only supported by racists? I am saying people repeatedly copy pasting that message on all threads like a Russian bot are stating that. Johhny you need to tell me now if you're a bot Let's try to stay on topic. If you and the other chap want to discuss me, start a new thread maybe? Back to panicking about immigrants.
We have been trying stay on topic and asked you for some evidence for a couple of statements you made. We still haven't got it yet. At this point, whatever you said looks like fake news.
Let's try to stay on topic.
If you and the other chap want to discuss me, start a new thread maybe?
So you are hear spreading fake news.
We ask for evidence from you.
You are complaining that it is somehow a personal attack?
Let's try to stay on topic.
If you and the other chap want to discuss me, start a new thread maybe?"
But I am staying on topic. Tell us where you found those reform policies
On their website.
I opened the pdf from their website. I couldn't find anything that you said. About climate change, they told that they would remove the forced net zero targets and invest in SMRs instead. Far from "science is not real" claim that you are making. I didn't see them saying "foreigners are cause of all your problems" either.
If you are really confident tgat it's their policy, it would be great if you tell us all which page it is."Took a quick look and the thrust of their policy on immigration seems to be 1) Stop illegal channel crossings and 2) Incentivise employment of UK workers so less reliant on immigration. I'm no flag bearer for Farage, but I don't see much wrong with that approach tbf. | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Can you point out the posts calling anyone racist ? What does "Have you considered joining reform party?" mean? Hold on, are you stating that the reform party are only supported by racists? I am saying people repeatedly copy pasting that message on all threads like a Russian bot are stating that. Johhny you need to tell me now if you're a bot Let's try to stay on topic. If you and the other chap want to discuss me, start a new thread maybe? Back to panicking about immigrants.
We have been trying stay on topic and asked you for some evidence for a couple of statements you made. We still haven't got it yet. At this point, whatever you said looks like fake news.
Let's try to stay on topic.
If you and the other chap want to discuss me, start a new thread maybe?
So you are hear spreading fake news.
We ask for evidence from you.
You are complaining that it is somehow a personal attack?
Let's try to stay on topic.
If you and the other chap want to discuss me, start a new thread maybe?"
But I am staying on topic. Tell us where you found those reform policies
On their website.
I opened the pdf from their website. I couldn't find anything that you said. About climate change, they told that they would remove the forced net zero targets and invest in SMRs instead. Far from "science is not real" claim that you are making. I didn't see them saying "foreigners are cause of all your problems" either.
If you are really confident tgat it's their policy, it would be great if you tell us all which page it is.
Took a quick look and the thrust of their policy on immigration seems to be 1) Stop illegal channel crossings and 2) Incentivise employment of UK workers so less reliant on immigration. I'm no flag bearer for Farage, but I don't see much wrong with that approach tbf."The facts don’t suit the political narrative of the liberal progressives. It reminds me of protests, the mass keep chanting the same slogans over and over again, keep saying the same thing and it becomes true in the mind. | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Can you point out the posts calling anyone racist ? What does "Have you considered joining reform party?" mean? Hold on, are you stating that the reform party are only supported by racists? I am saying people repeatedly copy pasting that message on all threads like a Russian bot are stating that. Johhny you need to tell me now if you're a bot Let's try to stay on topic. If you and the other chap want to discuss me, start a new thread maybe? Back to panicking about immigrants.
We have been trying stay on topic and asked you for some evidence for a couple of statements you made. We still haven't got it yet. At this point, whatever you said looks like fake news.
Let's try to stay on topic.
If you and the other chap want to discuss me, start a new thread maybe?
So you are hear spreading fake news.
We ask for evidence from you.
You are complaining that it is somehow a personal attack?
Let's try to stay on topic.
If you and the other chap want to discuss me, start a new thread maybe?"
But I am staying on topic. Tell us where you found those reform policies
On their website.
I opened the pdf from their website. I couldn't find anything that you said. About climate change, they told that they would remove the forced net zero targets and invest in SMRs instead. Far from "science is not real" claim that you are making. I didn't see them saying "foreigners are cause of all your problems" either.
If you are really confident tgat it's their policy, it would be great if you tell us all which page it is.
Took a quick look and the thrust of their policy on immigration seems to be 1) Stop illegal channel crossings and 2) Incentivise employment of UK workers so less reliant on immigration. I'm no flag bearer for Farage, but I don't see much wrong with that approach tbf."The late Labour and then independent MP Frank Field had a similar view and no-one could have justifiably accused him of being right wing in his beliefs. | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !!" They should be locked up in a 6ft x 6ft cell, 4 to a cell, and fed cat food once a day, 1 tin between 4. Ideally we should have private boat patrols bursting each inflatable as they set off from France. They know how to legally apply for immigration and they choose to ignore. It's laughable the number of people who stick up for these illegals and yet not one of them are prepared to give them a room in their home | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat." Sensible conversation in here?
The usual suspects will just try to shut everything down with either one of their pithy one liners or try to pull you up because you got a minor detail 00000.0001% wrong.
No no no sensible debate is against the rules on here.
However left wing migrant supporting echo chamber opinions are not only allowed they are encouraged.
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! They should be locked up in a 6ft x 6ft cell, 4 to a cell, and fed cat food once a day, 1 tin between 4. Ideally we should have private boat patrols bursting each inflatable as they set off from France. They know how to legally apply for immigration and they choose to ignore. It's laughable the number of people who stick up for these illegals and yet not one of them are prepared to give them a room in their home " Yvette Cooper did, well she said she would, she nearly promised to, but I think her spare room is still empty. | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! They should be locked up in a 6ft x 6ft cell, 4 to a cell, and fed cat food once a day, 1 tin between 4. Ideally we should have private boat patrols bursting each inflatable as they set off from France. They know how to legally apply for immigration and they choose to ignore. It's laughable the number of people who stick up for these illegals and yet not one of them are prepared to give them a room in their home "  | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Sensible conversation in here?
The usual suspects will just try to shut everything down with either one of their pithy one liners or try to pull you up because you got a minor detail 00000.0001% wrong.
No no no sensible debate is against the rules on here.
However left wing migrant supporting echo chamber opinions are not only allowed they are encouraged.
"Hold on , are you talking about all immigrants or asylum seekers? | |||
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"It's only in the last 20 years or so that Labour and Conservative have supported de facto unlimited immigration. Before that both parties were strong on effective border controls, a position supported by most voters. Reform's policies are completey mainstream; it's the open borders policy which is extreme." The electorate disagrees, reform just won 5 seats. | |||
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"It's only in the last 20 years or so that Labour and Conservative have supported de facto unlimited immigration. Before that both parties were strong on effective border controls, a position supported by most voters. Reform's policies are completey mainstream; it's the open borders policy which is extreme. The electorate disagrees, reform just won 5 seats. " Wrong conclusion. The FTPT system might disagree, but the electorate put Reform in 3rd position on total votes. So they must be doing something right I guess. | |||
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"It's only in the last 20 years or so that Labour and Conservative have supported de facto unlimited immigration. Before that both parties were strong on effective border controls, a position supported by most voters. Reform's policies are completey mainstream; it's the open borders policy which is extreme. The electorate disagrees, reform just won 5 seats. Wrong conclusion. The FTPT system might disagree, but the electorate put Reform in 3rd position on total votes. So they must be doing something right I guess." We don’t have PR, but if if we did, retorm only got 4 million votes, so they are definitely the minority | |||
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"It's only in the last 20 years or so that Labour and Conservative have supported de facto unlimited immigration. Before that both parties were strong on effective border controls, a position supported by most voters. Reform's policies are completey mainstream; it's the open borders policy which is extreme." This! This kind of rhubarb is why there can't be any kind of sensible discussion. | |||
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"It's only in the last 20 years or so that Labour and Conservative have supported de facto unlimited immigration. Before that both parties were strong on effective border controls, a position supported by most voters. Reform's policies are completey mainstream; it's the open borders policy which is extreme. The electorate disagrees, reform just won 5 seats. Wrong conclusion. The FTPT system might disagree, but the electorate put Reform in 3rd position on total votes. So they must be doing something right I guess. We don’t have PR, but if if we did, retorm only got 4 million votes, so they are definitely the minority "Yup, an balance FPTP serves us well imo, but 4mil is not to be scoffed at. Why do so many people vote for a new party over the old order? | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Sensible conversation in here?
The usual suspects will just try to shut everything down with either one of their pithy one liners or try to pull you up because you got a minor detail 00000.0001% wrong.
No no no sensible debate is against the rules on here.
However left wing migrant supporting echo chamber opinions are not only allowed they are encouraged.
"You must be new. This is the section of Fab where 90% of forum posters are in a near constant state of panic about immigrants, and anyone not in full panic mode gets ridiculed and attacked. | |||
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"It's only in the last 20 years or so that Labour and Conservative have supported de facto unlimited immigration. Before that both parties were strong on effective border controls, a position supported by most voters. Reform's policies are completey mainstream; it's the open borders policy which is extreme. The electorate disagrees, reform just won 5 seats. Wrong conclusion. The FTPT system might disagree, but the electorate put Reform in 3rd position on total votes. So they must be doing something right I guess. We don’t have PR, but if if we did, retorm only got 4 million votes, so they are definitely the minority
Yup, a balance FPTP serves us well imo, but 4mil is not to be scoffed at. Why do so many people vote for a new party over the old order?"why do the vast majority not vote for them? | |||
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"It's only in the last 20 years or so that Labour and Conservative have supported de facto unlimited immigration. Before that both parties were strong on effective border controls, a position supported by most voters. Reform's policies are completey mainstream; it's the open borders policy which is extreme. The electorate disagrees, reform just won 5 seats. Wrong conclusion. The FTPT system might disagree, but the electorate put Reform in 3rd position on total votes. So they must be doing something right I guess. We don’t have PR, but if if we did, retorm only got 4 million votes, so they are definitely the minority
Yup, a balance FPTP serves us well imo, but 4mil is not to be scoffed at. Why do so many people vote for a new party over the old order?
why do the vast majority not vote for them? "We can spin the stats many ways. Why did Labour get a huge parliamentary majority with a meagre 9.7 mil votes? The point is, Reform are electorally significant whether we like it or not. | |||
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"It's only in the last 20 years or so that Labour and Conservative have supported de facto unlimited immigration. Before that both parties were strong on effective border controls, a position supported by most voters. Reform's policies are completey mainstream; it's the open borders policy which is extreme. The electorate disagrees, reform just won 5 seats. Wrong conclusion. The FTPT system might disagree, but the electorate put Reform in 3rd position on total votes. So they must be doing something right I guess. We don’t have PR, but if if we did, retorm only got 4 million votes, so they are definitely the minority
Yup, a balance FPTP serves us well imo, but 4mil is not to be scoffed at. Why do so many people vote for a new party over the old order?
why do the vast majority not vote for them?
We can spin the stats many ways. Why did Labour get a huge parliamentary majority with a meagre 9.7 mil votes? The point is, Reform are electorally significant whether we like it or not. "They are not ‘mainstream’ , do you want to introduce PR? | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Sensible conversation in here?
The usual suspects will just try to shut everything down with either one of their pithy one liners or try to pull you up because you got a minor detail 00000.0001% wrong.
No no no sensible debate is against the rules on here.
However left wing migrant supporting echo chamber opinions are not only allowed they are encouraged.
You must be new. This is the section of Fab where 90% of forum posters are in a near constant state of panic about immigrants, and anyone not in full panic mode gets ridiculed and attacked."People who are against immigration have made sensible arguments to back their views. It's only the ones who are pro immigration who are blindly posting same things like "you must consider reform party" instead of making arguments with facts. Still waiting for some evidence for the claims you made by the way. | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Sensible conversation in here?
The usual suspects will just try to shut everything down with either one of their pithy one liners or try to pull you up because you got a minor detail 00000.0001% wrong.
No no no sensible debate is against the rules on here.
However left wing migrant supporting echo chamber opinions are not only allowed they are encouraged.
You must be new. This is the section of Fab where 90% of forum posters are in a near constant state of panic about immigrants, and anyone not in full panic mode gets ridiculed and attacked.
People who are against immigration have made sensible arguments to back their views. It's only the ones who are pro immigration who are blindly posting same things like "you must consider reform party" instead of making arguments with facts. Still waiting for some evidence for the claims you made by the way."Sensible, locking them up and feeding them cat food and hoping they drown in the channel is sensible? | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Sensible conversation in here?
The usual suspects will just try to shut everything down with either one of their pithy one liners or try to pull you up because you got a minor detail 00000.0001% wrong.
No no no sensible debate is against the rules on here.
However left wing migrant supporting echo chamber opinions are not only allowed they are encouraged.
You must be new. This is the section of Fab where 90% of forum posters are in a near constant state of panic about immigrants, and anyone not in full panic mode gets ridiculed and attacked.
People who are against immigration have made sensible arguments to back their views. It's only the ones who are pro immigration who are blindly posting same things like "you must consider reform party" instead of making arguments with facts. Still waiting for some evidence for the claims you made by the way.""It's only in the last 20 years or so that Labour and Conservative have supported de facto unlimited immigration. Before that both parties were strong on effective border controls, a position supported by most voters. Reform's policies are completey mainstream; it's the open borders policy which is extreme." | |||
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"It's only in the last 20 years or so that Labour and Conservative have supported de facto unlimited immigration. Before that both parties were strong on effective border controls, a position supported by most voters. Reform's policies are completey mainstream; it's the open borders policy which is extreme. The electorate disagrees, reform just won 5 seats. Wrong conclusion. The FTPT system might disagree, but the electorate put Reform in 3rd position on total votes. So they must be doing something right I guess." They are definitely doing something right and are well versed in promoting particular topics. Especially topics that some would prefer not discussed at all and use phrases like fear of foreigners etc at every opportunity. The more this happens, the more people turn to parties like reform. The lib dems had a similar problem with the voting system in the past, as have the greens. Unfortunately it is unlikely to ever change | |||
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"It's only in the last 20 years or so that Labour and Conservative have supported de facto unlimited immigration. Before that both parties were strong on effective border controls, a position supported by most voters. Reform's policies are completey mainstream; it's the open borders policy which is extreme. The electorate disagrees, reform just won 5 seats. Wrong conclusion. The FTPT system might disagree, but the electorate put Reform in 3rd position on total votes. So they must be doing something right I guess. They are definitely doing something right and are well versed in promoting particular topics. Especially topics that some would prefer not discussed at all and use phrases like fear of foreigners etc at every opportunity. The more this happens, the more people turn to parties like reform. The lib dems had a similar problem with the voting system in the past, as have the greens. Unfortunately it is unlikely to ever change" Fair enough, even with PR they are miles behind labour and the electorate don’t want PR | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Sensible conversation in here?
The usual suspects will just try to shut everything down with either one of their pithy one liners or try to pull you up because you got a minor detail 00000.0001% wrong.
No no no sensible debate is against the rules on here.
However left wing migrant supporting echo chamber opinions are not only allowed they are encouraged.
You must be new. This is the section of Fab where 90% of forum posters are in a near constant state of panic about immigrants, and anyone not in full panic mode gets ridiculed and attacked.
People who are against immigration have made sensible arguments to back their views. It's only the ones who are pro immigration who are blindly posting same things like "you must consider reform party" instead of making arguments with facts. Still waiting for some evidence for the claims you made by the way.
Sensible, locking them up and feeding them cat food and hoping they drown in the channel is sensible? "nit at all, take away the access to benifits which is currently over 50,000 a month granted indefinate leave which then gives them the rights to them . 50,000 on a basic bottom benifit of £900 a month plus rent ect before they might get pip | |||
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"It's only in the last 20 years or so that Labour and Conservative have supported de facto unlimited immigration. Before that both parties were strong on effective border controls, a position supported by most voters. Reform's policies are completey mainstream; it's the open borders policy which is extreme. The electorate disagrees, reform just won 5 seats. Wrong conclusion. The FTPT system might disagree, but the electorate put Reform in 3rd position on total votes. So they must be doing something right I guess. We don’t have PR, but if if we did, retorm only got 4 million votes, so they are definitely the minority
Yup, a balance FPTP serves us well imo, but 4mil is not to be scoffed at. Why do so many people vote for a new party over the old order?
why do the vast majority not vote for them?
We can spin the stats many ways. Why did Labour get a huge parliamentary majority with a meagre 9.7 mil votes? The point is, Reform are electorally significant whether we like it or not. "Labour got it's huge majority for one reason only, being that the right of centre vote was split in two. It says a lot about Labour that they only managed just over 30% of the turnout and only around 20% of the total electorate. One of the lowest totals by a winning party since WW2. And that against one of the most unpopular governments in decades. Short term Labour will be fine but it doesn't bode well for the long term. As the old saying goes "pride comes before a fall" | |||
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"It's only in the last 20 years or so that Labour and Conservative have supported de facto unlimited immigration. Before that both parties were strong on effective border controls, a position supported by most voters. Reform's policies are completey mainstream; it's the open borders policy which is extreme. The electorate disagrees, reform just won 5 seats. Wrong conclusion. The FTPT system might disagree, but the electorate put Reform in 3rd position on total votes. So they must be doing something right I guess. We don’t have PR, but if if we did, retorm only got 4 million votes, so they are definitely the minority
Yup, a balance FPTP serves us well imo, but 4mil is not to be scoffed at. Why do so many people vote for a new party over the old order?
why do the vast majority not vote for them?
We can spin the stats many ways. Why did Labour get a huge parliamentary majority with a meagre 9.7 mil votes? The point is, Reform are electorally significant whether we like it or not.
Labour got it's huge majority for one reason only, being that the right of centre vote was split in two.
It says a lot about Labour that they only managed just over 30% of the turnout and only around 20% of the total electorate. One of the lowest totals by a winning party since WW2. And that against one of the most unpopular governments in decades.
Short term Labour will be fine but it doesn't bode well for the long term.
As the old saying goes "pride comes before a fall"
"That is how elections are won, it isn’t a 2 horse race, there are over 6 candidates in each constituency, labour won the Most votes out of those candidates in 411 constituencies. There is no point complaining about the rules after you have lost | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Sensible conversation in here?
The usual suspects will just try to shut everything down with either one of their pithy one liners or try to pull you up because you got a minor detail 00000.0001% wrong.
No no no sensible debate is against the rules on here.
However left wing migrant supporting echo chamber opinions are not only allowed they are encouraged.
You must be new. This is the section of Fab where 90% of forum posters are in a near constant state of panic about immigrants, and anyone not in full panic mode gets ridiculed and attacked.
People who are against immigration have made sensible arguments to back their views. It's only the ones who are pro immigration who are blindly posting same things like "you must consider reform party" instead of making arguments with facts. Still waiting for some evidence for the claims you made by the way."The only counter arguments offered are usually along the lines 'panicked foreigner hating racists' or suchlike. Completely misses the point. | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Sensible conversation in here?
The usual suspects will just try to shut everything down with either one of their pithy one liners or try to pull you up because you got a minor detail 00000.0001% wrong.
No no no sensible debate is against the rules on here.
However left wing migrant supporting echo chamber opinions are not only allowed they are encouraged.
You must be new. This is the section of Fab where 90% of forum posters are in a near constant state of panic about immigrants, and anyone not in full panic mode gets ridiculed and attacked.
People who are against immigration have made sensible arguments to back their views. It's only the ones who are pro immigration who are blindly posting same things like "you must consider reform party" instead of making arguments with facts. Still waiting for some evidence for the claims you made by the way.
The only counter arguments offered are usually along the lines 'panicked foreigner hating racists' or suchlike. Completely misses the point."Or hoping asylum seekers drown , | |||
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"It's only in the last 20 years or so that Labour and Conservative have supported de facto unlimited immigration. Before that both parties were strong on effective border controls, a position supported by most voters. Reform's policies are completey mainstream; it's the open borders policy which is extreme. The electorate disagrees, reform just won 5 seats. Wrong conclusion. The FTPT system might disagree, but the electorate put Reform in 3rd position on total votes. So they must be doing something right I guess. We don’t have PR, but if if we did, retorm only got 4 million votes, so they are definitely the minority
Yup, a balance FPTP serves us well imo, but 4mil is not to be scoffed at. Why do so many people vote for a new party over the old order?
why do the vast majority not vote for them?
We can spin the stats many ways. Why did Labour get a huge parliamentary majority with a meagre 9.7 mil votes? The point is, Reform are electorally significant whether we like it or not.
Labour got it's huge majority for one reason only, being that the right of centre vote was split in two.
It says a lot about Labour that they only managed just over 30% of the turnout and only around 20% of the total electorate. One of the lowest totals by a winning party since WW2. And that against one of the most unpopular governments in decades.
Short term Labour will be fine but it doesn't bode well for the long term.
As the old saying goes "pride comes before a fall"
"Labour lost a lot of their support when they moved to the centre. The Tories lost the much further to the right elements of their support because they ramped up the fear of immigrants to such a level that these people switched allegiance to the ultra-Tories. Anyway. It's nice for now not having the government joining the media in the hysteria over immigration. | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Sensible conversation in here?
The usual suspects will just try to shut everything down with either one of their pithy one liners or try to pull you up because you got a minor detail 00000.0001% wrong.
No no no sensible debate is against the rules on here.
However left wing migrant supporting echo chamber opinions are not only allowed they are encouraged.
You must be new. This is the section of Fab where 90% of forum posters are in a near constant state of panic about immigrants, and anyone not in full panic mode gets ridiculed and attacked.
People who are against immigration have made sensible arguments to back their views. It's only the ones who are pro immigration who are blindly posting same things like "you must consider reform party" instead of making arguments with facts. Still waiting for some evidence for the claims you made by the way.
The only counter arguments offered are usually along the lines 'panicked foreigner hating racists' or suchlike. Completely misses the point."What is the point? People on here are just parroting the GBnews/Daily Mail bollocks. | |||
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"It's only in the last 20 years or so that Labour and Conservative have supported de facto unlimited immigration. Before that both parties were strong on effective border controls, a position supported by most voters. Reform's policies are completey mainstream; it's the open borders policy which is extreme. The electorate disagrees, reform just won 5 seats. Wrong conclusion. The FTPT system might disagree, but the electorate put Reform in 3rd position on total votes. So they must be doing something right I guess. They are definitely doing something right and are well versed in promoting particular topics. Especially topics that some would prefer not discussed at all and use phrases like fear of foreigners etc at every opportunity. The more this happens, the more people turn to parties like reform. The lib dems had a similar problem with the voting system in the past, as have the greens. Unfortunately it is unlikely to ever change Fair enough, even with PR they are miles behind labour and the electorate don’t want PR" Wrong again. Not miles behind. Reform got 42% of Labour's votes. Heading for half!! | |||
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"It's only in the last 20 years or so that Labour and Conservative have supported de facto unlimited immigration. Before that both parties were strong on effective border controls, a position supported by most voters. Reform's policies are completey mainstream; it's the open borders policy which is extreme. The electorate disagrees, reform just won 5 seats. Wrong conclusion. The FTPT system might disagree, but the electorate put Reform in 3rd position on total votes. So they must be doing something right I guess. They are definitely doing something right and are well versed in promoting particular topics. Especially topics that some would prefer not discussed at all and use phrases like fear of foreigners etc at every opportunity. The more this happens, the more people turn to parties like reform. The lib dems had a similar problem with the voting system in the past, as have the greens. Unfortunately it is unlikely to ever change Fair enough, even with PR they are miles behind labour and the electorate don’t want PR Wrong again. Not miles behind. Reform got 42% of Labour's votes. Heading for half!!" And they still won 411 seats , this is all irrelevant, we don’t have PR, the electorate don’t want PR | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Sensible conversation in here?
The usual suspects will just try to shut everything down with either one of their pithy one liners or try to pull you up because you got a minor detail 00000.0001% wrong.
No no no sensible debate is against the rules on here.
However left wing migrant supporting echo chamber opinions are not only allowed they are encouraged.
You must be new. This is the section of Fab where 90% of forum posters are in a near constant state of panic about immigrants, and anyone not in full panic mode gets ridiculed and attacked.
People who are against immigration have made sensible arguments to back their views. It's only the ones who are pro immigration who are blindly posting same things like "you must consider reform party" instead of making arguments with facts. Still waiting for some evidence for the claims you made by the way.
The only counter arguments offered are usually along the lines 'panicked foreigner hating racists' or suchlike. Completely misses the point.
What is the point?
People on here are just parroting the GBnews/Daily Mail bollocks."A tad patronising no? People are capable of gathering news from different sources and filtering. It's a bit like saying you parrot the Guardian drivel, which I'm sure isn't the case. | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Sensible conversation in here?
The usual suspects will just try to shut everything down with either one of their pithy one liners or try to pull you up because you got a minor detail 00000.0001% wrong.
No no no sensible debate is against the rules on here.
However left wing migrant supporting echo chamber opinions are not only allowed they are encouraged.
You must be new. This is the section of Fab where 90% of forum posters are in a near constant state of panic about immigrants, and anyone not in full panic mode gets ridiculed and attacked.
People who are against immigration have made sensible arguments to back their views. It's only the ones who are pro immigration who are blindly posting same things like "you must consider reform party" instead of making arguments with facts. Still waiting for some evidence for the claims you made by the way.
The only counter arguments offered are usually along the lines 'panicked foreigner hating racists' or suchlike. Completely misses the point.
What is the point?
People on here are just parroting the GBnews/Daily Mail bollocks.
A tad patronising no? People are capable of gathering news from different sources and filtering. It's a bit like saying you parrot the Guardian drivel, which I'm sure isn't the case. "Those were just meant as examples. The anti-immigrant points are usually things either ridiculously over exaggerated, or calling for the Navy to sink the boats and drown people, calling for sharks to kill them, calling them all criminals, saying they don't want to drop their iPhones etc. All this rubbish comes from a certain element of the media, and/or morons like Hopkins/Lawrence Fox/Tommy Robinson etc. | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Sensible conversation in here?
The usual suspects will just try to shut everything down with either one of their pithy one liners or try to pull you up because you got a minor detail 00000.0001% wrong.
No no no sensible debate is against the rules on here.
However left wing migrant supporting echo chamber opinions are not only allowed they are encouraged.
You must be new. This is the section of Fab where 90% of forum posters are in a near constant state of panic about immigrants, and anyone not in full panic mode gets ridiculed and attacked.
People who are against immigration have made sensible arguments to back their views. It's only the ones who are pro immigration who are blindly posting same things like "you must consider reform party" instead of making arguments with facts. Still waiting for some evidence for the claims you made by the way.
The only counter arguments offered are usually along the lines 'panicked foreigner hating racists' or suchlike. Completely misses the point.
What is the point?
People on here are just parroting the GBnews/Daily Mail bollocks."People have been sharing unemployment statistics, statistics about housing, statistics about amount of money spent, real events of extremism. These are all sensible arguments. You can prove these stats to be wrong. But you never do that. All I see is some patronising remarks being copy pasted across threads | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Sensible conversation in here?
The usual suspects will just try to shut everything down with either one of their pithy one liners or try to pull you up because you got a minor detail 00000.0001% wrong.
No no no sensible debate is against the rules on here.
However left wing migrant supporting echo chamber opinions are not only allowed they are encouraged.
You must be new. This is the section of Fab where 90% of forum posters are in a near constant state of panic about immigrants, and anyone not in full panic mode gets ridiculed and attacked.
People who are against immigration have made sensible arguments to back their views. It's only the ones who are pro immigration who are blindly posting same things like "you must consider reform party" instead of making arguments with facts. Still waiting for some evidence for the claims you made by the way.
The only counter arguments offered are usually along the lines 'panicked foreigner hating racists' or suchlike. Completely misses the point.
What is the point?
People on here are just parroting the GBnews/Daily Mail bollocks."Parroting NO, agreeing with yes. As for news, I prefer Reuters for international news. The UK is dead in the water and not worth reporting on. Far too many "lost case" far left brainwashed souls in the UK. | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Sensible conversation in here?
The usual suspects will just try to shut everything down with either one of their pithy one liners or try to pull you up because you got a minor detail 00000.0001% wrong.
No no no sensible debate is against the rules on here.
However left wing migrant supporting echo chamber opinions are not only allowed they are encouraged.
You must be new. This is the section of Fab where 90% of forum posters are in a near constant state of panic about immigrants, and anyone not in full panic mode gets ridiculed and attacked.
People who are against immigration have made sensible arguments to back their views. It's only the ones who are pro immigration who are blindly posting same things like "you must consider reform party" instead of making arguments with facts. Still waiting for some evidence for the claims you made by the way.
The only counter arguments offered are usually along the lines 'panicked foreigner hating racists' or suchlike. Completely misses the point.
What is the point?
People on here are just parroting the GBnews/Daily Mail bollocks.
Parroting NO, agreeing with yes.
As for news, I prefer Reuters for international news.
The UK is dead in the water and not worth reporting on.
Far too many "lost case" far left brainwashed souls in the UK."Have you considered emigrating | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !!" If you think the numbers arriving illegally by boat are the biggest issue… consider this, they are only about 5% of total migration into the UK! Legal migration is 20times the illegal migration! | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! If you think the numbers arriving illegally by boat are the biggest issue… consider this, they are only about 5% of total migration into the UK! Legal migration is 20times the illegal migration!" Legal migration is acceptable Illegal migration should carry a death sentence. | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! Thank god the majority of them arrived here safely, time to get them processed, and those legally allowed to stay can help fill some of there job vacancies . However, this a minor issue, the labour government have far bigger issues to deal with " I’m confused. Last week you were delighted to read about deportations, and heralded it as a major success for labour… | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! If you think the numbers arriving illegally by boat are the biggest issue… consider this, they are only about 5% of total migration into the UK! Legal migration is 20times the illegal migration! Legal migration is acceptable Illegal migration should carry a death sentence." That’s a pretty disgusting suggestion | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! Thank god the majority of them arrived here safely, time to get them processed, and those legally allowed to stay can help fill some of there job vacancies . However, this a minor issue, the labour government have far bigger issues to deal with I’m confused. Last week you were delighted to read about deportations, and heralded it as a major success for labour… " Indeed, those who aren’t legally entitled should he deported , that won’t be known until they are processed | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! If you think the numbers arriving illegally by boat are the biggest issue… consider this, they are only about 5% of total migration into the UK! Legal migration is 20times the illegal migration! Legal migration is acceptable Illegal migration should carry a death sentence." For the gangs? Harsh but I guess it would stop them | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Sensible conversation in here?
The usual suspects will just try to shut everything down with either one of their pithy one liners or try to pull you up because you got a minor detail 00000.0001% wrong.
No no no sensible debate is against the rules on here.
However left wing migrant supporting echo chamber opinions are not only allowed they are encouraged.
You must be new. This is the section of Fab where 90% of forum posters are in a near constant state of panic about immigrants, and anyone not in full panic mode gets ridiculed and attacked.
People who are against immigration have made sensible arguments to back their views. It's only the ones who are pro immigration who are blindly posting same things like "you must consider reform party" instead of making arguments with facts. Still waiting for some evidence for the claims you made by the way.
The only counter arguments offered are usually along the lines 'panicked foreigner hating racists' or suchlike. Completely misses the point.
What is the point?
People on here are just parroting the GBnews/Daily Mail bollocks.
A tad patronising no? People are capable of gathering news from different sources and filtering. It's a bit like saying you parrot the Guardian drivel, which I'm sure isn't the case.
Those were just meant as examples.
The anti-immigrant points are usually things either ridiculously over exaggerated, or calling for the Navy to sink the boats and drown people, calling for sharks to kill them, calling them all criminals, saying they don't want to drop their iPhones etc.
All this rubbish comes from a certain element of the media, and/or morons like Hopkins/Lawrence Fox/Tommy Robinson etc."Ah, fox … despite his best efforts to get attention he really has disappeared and become an irrelevance | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! If you think the numbers arriving illegally by boat are the biggest issue… consider this, they are only about 5% of total migration into the UK! Legal migration is 20times the illegal migration! Legal migration is acceptable Illegal migration should carry a death sentence. For the gangs? Harsh but I guess it would stop them " How would that work? … given that the gangs aren’t actually in the UK. | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! If you think the numbers arriving illegally by boat are the biggest issue… consider this, they are only about 5% of total migration into the UK! Legal migration is 20times the illegal migration! Legal migration is acceptable Illegal migration should carry a death sentence. For the gangs? Harsh but I guess it would stop them " You’re ok with executing people? | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! If you think the numbers arriving illegally by boat are the biggest issue… consider this, they are only about 5% of total migration into the UK! Legal migration is 20times the illegal migration! Legal migration is acceptable Illegal migration should carry a death sentence. For the gangs? Harsh but I guess it would stop them How would that work? … given that the gangs aren’t actually in the UK. " Not sure, I assumed the poster meant a death sentence for the gangs , | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! If you think the numbers arriving illegally by boat are the biggest issue… consider this, they are only about 5% of total migration into the UK! Legal migration is 20times the illegal migration! Legal migration is acceptable Illegal migration should carry a death sentence. For the gangs? Harsh but I guess it would stop them You’re ok with executing people? " No, the poster who suggested it is | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! If you think the numbers arriving illegally by boat are the biggest issue… consider this, they are only about 5% of total migration into the UK! Legal migration is 20times the illegal migration! Legal migration is acceptable Illegal migration should carry a death sentence. For the gangs? Harsh but I guess it would stop them How would that work? … given that the gangs aren’t actually in the UK. " Anyone who enters illegally - execute. Gangs would dissappear I'd no trade Ofcourse the Labour cotton wool heads would never allow this, even if it is destroying our country | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! If you think the numbers arriving illegally by boat are the biggest issue… consider this, they are only about 5% of total migration into the UK! Legal migration is 20times the illegal migration! Legal migration is acceptable Illegal migration should carry a death sentence. For the gangs? Harsh but I guess it would stop them How would that work? … given that the gangs aren’t actually in the UK. Anyone who enters illegally - execute. Gangs would dissappear I'd no trade Ofcourse the Labour cotton wool heads would never allow this, even if it is destroying our country " You want asylum seekers to be executed? Did you previously say you watch GB news? | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! If you think the numbers arriving illegally by boat are the biggest issue… consider this, they are only about 5% of total migration into the UK! Legal migration is 20times the illegal migration! Legal migration is acceptable Illegal migration should carry a death sentence. For the gangs? Harsh but I guess it would stop them You’re ok with executing people? " Illegal immigrants yes, every single one | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! If you think the numbers arriving illegally by boat are the biggest issue… consider this, they are only about 5% of total migration into the UK! Legal migration is 20times the illegal migration! Legal migration is acceptable Illegal migration should carry a death sentence. For the gangs? Harsh but I guess it would stop them You’re ok with executing people? Illegal immigrants yes, every single one " How would you do that? | |||
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"The highest form of immigration, is student visas, https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43960088" At least they have been stopped from bringing family with them and universities depend on overseas students paying their own way | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! If you think the numbers arriving illegally by boat are the biggest issue… consider this, they are only about 5% of total migration into the UK! Legal migration is 20times the illegal migration! Legal migration is acceptable Illegal migration should carry a death sentence. For the gangs? Harsh but I guess it would stop them You’re ok with executing people? Illegal immigrants yes, every single one " All of them? Including the children ? | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! If you think the numbers arriving illegally by boat are the biggest issue… consider this, they are only about 5% of total migration into the UK! Legal migration is 20times the illegal migration! Legal migration is acceptable Illegal migration should carry a death sentence. For the gangs? Harsh but I guess it would stop them You’re ok with executing people? Illegal immigrants yes, every single one How would you do that? " its even simpler than that and more humane. TAKE AWAY THE INCENTIVES, no more indefinate stay =no more applications for any benefits at all, no health care no money no tempory housing no food banks or shelter, but free boats back to where you came from | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! If you think the numbers arriving illegally by boat are the biggest issue… consider this, they are only about 5% of total migration into the UK! Legal migration is 20times the illegal migration! Legal migration is acceptable Illegal migration should carry a death sentence. For the gangs? Harsh but I guess it would stop them You’re ok with executing people? Illegal immigrants yes, every single one How would you do that? its even simpler than that and more humane. TAKE AWAY THE INCENTIVES, no more indefinate stay =no more applications for any benefits at all, no health care no money no tempory housing no food banks or shelter, but free boats back to where you came from " Ah ok, so you don’t agree with killing them ? | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! If you think the numbers arriving illegally by boat are the biggest issue… consider this, they are only about 5% of total migration into the UK! Legal migration is 20times the illegal migration! Legal migration is acceptable Illegal migration should carry a death sentence. For the gangs? Harsh but I guess it would stop them You’re ok with executing people? Illegal immigrants yes, every single one How would you do that? its even simpler than that and more humane. TAKE AWAY THE INCENTIVES, no more indefinate stay =no more applications for any benefits at all, no health care no money no tempory housing no food banks or shelter, but free boats back to where you came from Ah ok, so you don’t agree with killing them ? " theres certain convicted people in jails of all colours religions and races that i wouldnt have a problem handing a death sentance too | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! If you think the numbers arriving illegally by boat are the biggest issue… consider this, they are only about 5% of total migration into the UK! Legal migration is 20times the illegal migration! Legal migration is acceptable Illegal migration should carry a death sentence. For the gangs? Harsh but I guess it would stop them You’re ok with executing people? Illegal immigrants yes, every single one How would you do that? its even simpler than that and more humane. TAKE AWAY THE INCENTIVES, no more indefinate stay =no more applications for any benefits at all, no health care no money no tempory housing no food banks or shelter, but free boats back to where you came from Ah ok, so you don’t agree with killing them ? theres certain convicted people in jails of all colours religions and races that i wouldnt have a problem handing a death sentance too" That’s not what I asked, do you agree with the poster who suggests they should be killed? | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! If you think the numbers arriving illegally by boat are the biggest issue… consider this, they are only about 5% of total migration into the UK! Legal migration is 20times the illegal migration! Legal migration is acceptable Illegal migration should carry a death sentence. For the gangs? Harsh but I guess it would stop them You’re ok with executing people? Illegal immigrants yes, every single one How would you do that? its even simpler than that and more humane. TAKE AWAY THE INCENTIVES, no more indefinate stay =no more applications for any benefits at all, no health care no money no tempory housing no food banks or shelter, but free boats back to where you came from Ah ok, so you don’t agree with killing them ? theres certain convicted people in jails of all colours religions and races that i wouldnt have a problem handing a death sentance too That’s not what I asked, do you agree with the poster who suggests they should be killed? " maybe he should vote reform? | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! If you think the numbers arriving illegally by boat are the biggest issue… consider this, they are only about 5% of total migration into the UK! Legal migration is 20times the illegal migration! Legal migration is acceptable Illegal migration should carry a death sentence. For the gangs? Harsh but I guess it would stop them You’re ok with executing people? Illegal immigrants yes, every single one How would you do that? its even simpler than that and more humane. TAKE AWAY THE INCENTIVES, no more indefinate stay =no more applications for any benefits at all, no health care no money no tempory housing no food banks or shelter, but free boats back to where you came from Ah ok, so you don’t agree with killing them ? theres certain convicted people in jails of all colours religions and races that i wouldnt have a problem handing a death sentance too That’s not what I asked, do you agree with the poster who suggests they should be killed? maybe he should vote reform? " No idea, maybe he does, I know he watches GB news, | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! If you think the numbers arriving illegally by boat are the biggest issue… consider this, they are only about 5% of total migration into the UK! Legal migration is 20times the illegal migration! Legal migration is acceptable Illegal migration should carry a death sentence. For the gangs? Harsh but I guess it would stop them You’re ok with executing people? Illegal immigrants yes, every single one How would you do that? its even simpler than that and more humane. TAKE AWAY THE INCENTIVES, no more indefinate stay =no more applications for any benefits at all, no health care no money no tempory housing no food banks or shelter, but free boats back to where you came from " I might have one for a cleaner, cook and bottle washer if pretty enough going down that route but I do believe my suggestion would be more apt. | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! If you think the numbers arriving illegally by boat are the biggest issue… consider this, they are only about 5% of total migration into the UK! Legal migration is 20times the illegal migration! Legal migration is acceptable Illegal migration should carry a death sentence. For the gangs? Harsh but I guess it would stop them You’re ok with executing people? Illegal immigrants yes, every single one How would you do that? its even simpler than that and more humane. TAKE AWAY THE INCENTIVES, no more indefinate stay =no more applications for any benefits at all, no health care no money no tempory housing no food banks or shelter, but free boats back to where you came from I might have one for a cleaner, cook and bottle washer if pretty enough going down that route but I do believe my suggestion would be more apt." How would you kill them? Do you think your views are shared by the majority? | |||
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"It's only in the last 20 years or so that Labour and Conservative have supported de facto unlimited immigration. Before that both parties were strong on effective border controls, a position supported by most voters. Reform's policies are completey mainstream; it's the open borders policy which is extreme. The electorate disagrees, reform just won 5 seats. Wrong conclusion. The FTPT system might disagree, but the electorate put Reform in 3rd position on total votes. So they must be doing something right I guess. We don’t have PR, but if if we did, retorm only got 4 million votes, so they are definitely the minority
Yup, a balance FPTP serves us well imo, but 4mil is not to be scoffed at. Why do so many people vote for a new party over the old order?
why do the vast majority not vote for them?
We can spin the stats many ways. Why did Labour get a huge parliamentary majority with a meagre 9.7 mil votes? The point is, Reform are electorally significant whether we like it or not.
Labour got it's huge majority for one reason only, being that the right of centre vote was split in two.
It says a lot about Labour that they only managed just over 30% of the turnout and only around 20% of the total electorate. One of the lowest totals by a winning party since WW2. And that against one of the most unpopular governments in decades.
Short term Labour will be fine but it doesn't bode well for the long term.
As the old saying goes "pride comes before a fall"
That is how elections are won, it isn’t a 2 horse race, there are over 6 candidates in each constituency, labour won the Most votes out of those candidates in 411 constituencies. There is no point complaining about the rules after you have lost "Not complaining at all. Those were the rules and that was the result. Although I do remember lots of Labour supporters making those type of complaints when they lost. I actually prefer the FPTP system. It's not perfect but if you look at Germany today it's not exactly a great advert for PR. I didn't like the election result but I accept it. Now Labour has all the problems of government which is very different from being a shouty opposition. And much more difficult. Let's see where it goes. | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Sensible conversation in here?
The usual suspects will just try to shut everything down with either one of their pithy one liners or try to pull you up because you got a minor detail 00000.0001% wrong.
No no no sensible debate is against the rules on here.
However left wing migrant supporting echo chamber opinions are not only allowed they are encouraged.
You must be new. This is the section of Fab where 90% of forum posters are in a near constant state of panic about immigrants, and anyone not in full panic mode gets ridiculed and attacked.
People who are against immigration have made sensible arguments to back their views. It's only the ones who are pro immigration who are blindly posting same things like "you must consider reform party" instead of making arguments with facts. Still waiting for some evidence for the claims you made by the way.
The only counter arguments offered are usually along the lines 'panicked foreigner hating racists' or suchlike. Completely misses the point.
What is the point?
People on here are just parroting the GBnews/Daily Mail bollocks.
Parroting NO, agreeing with yes.
As for news, I prefer Reuters for international news.
The UK is dead in the water and not worth reporting on.
Far too many "lost case" far left brainwashed souls in the UK."Errr what? | |||
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"It's only in the last 20 years or so that Labour and Conservative have supported de facto unlimited immigration. Before that both parties were strong on effective border controls, a position supported by most voters. Reform's policies are completey mainstream; it's the open borders policy which is extreme. The electorate disagrees, reform just won 5 seats. Wrong conclusion. The FTPT system might disagree, but the electorate put Reform in 3rd position on total votes. So they must be doing something right I guess. We don’t have PR, but if if we did, retorm only got 4 million votes, so they are definitely the minority
Yup, a balance FPTP serves us well imo, but 4mil is not to be scoffed at. Why do so many people vote for a new party over the old order?
why do the vast majority not vote for them?
We can spin the stats many ways. Why did Labour get a huge parliamentary majority with a meagre 9.7 mil votes? The point is, Reform are electorally significant whether we like it or not.
Labour got it's huge majority for one reason only, being that the right of centre vote was split in two.
It says a lot about Labour that they only managed just over 30% of the turnout and only around 20% of the total electorate. One of the lowest totals by a winning party since WW2. And that against one of the most unpopular governments in decades.
Short term Labour will be fine but it doesn't bode well for the long term.
As the old saying goes "pride comes before a fall"
That is how elections are won, it isn’t a 2 horse race, there are over 6 candidates in each constituency, labour won the Most votes out of those candidates in 411 constituencies. There is no point complaining about the rules after you have lost
Not complaining at all. Those were the rules and that was the result. Although I do remember lots of Labour supporters making those type of complaints when they lost.
I actually prefer the FPTP system. It's not perfect but if you look at Germany today it's not exactly a great advert for PR.
I didn't like the election result but I accept it.
Now Labour has all the problems of government which is very different from being a shouty opposition. And much more difficult. Let's see where it goes."I agree, it won’t be easy, hard times before better times | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Sensible conversation in here?
The usual suspects will just try to shut everything down with either one of their pithy one liners or try to pull you up because you got a minor detail 00000.0001% wrong.
No no no sensible debate is against the rules on here.
However left wing migrant supporting echo chamber opinions are not only allowed they are encouraged.
You must be new. This is the section of Fab where 90% of forum posters are in a near constant state of panic about immigrants, and anyone not in full panic mode gets ridiculed and attacked.
People who are against immigration have made sensible arguments to back their views. It's only the ones who are pro immigration who are blindly posting same things like "you must consider reform party" instead of making arguments with facts. Still waiting for some evidence for the claims you made by the way.
The only counter arguments offered are usually along the lines 'panicked foreigner hating racists' or suchlike. Completely misses the point.
What is the point?
People on here are just parroting the GBnews/Daily Mail bollocks.
People have been sharing unemployment statistics, statistics about housing, statistics about amount of money spent, real events of extremism. These are all sensible arguments. You can prove these stats to be wrong. But you never do that. All I see is some patronising remarks being copy pasted across threads"Haven't seen any of that. Just stuff like: "Anyone who enters illegally - execute." Amazing. These people do way more harm to the validity of your supposed "legitimate concerns" about immigrants. | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Sensible conversation in here?
The usual suspects will just try to shut everything down with either one of their pithy one liners or try to pull you up because you got a minor detail 00000.0001% wrong.
No no no sensible debate is against the rules on here.
However left wing migrant supporting echo chamber opinions are not only allowed they are encouraged.
You must be new. This is the section of Fab where 90% of forum posters are in a near constant state of panic about immigrants, and anyone not in full panic mode gets ridiculed and attacked.
People who are against immigration have made sensible arguments to back their views. It's only the ones who are pro immigration who are blindly posting same things like "you must consider reform party" instead of making arguments with facts. Still waiting for some evidence for the claims you made by the way.
The only counter arguments offered are usually along the lines 'panicked foreigner hating racists' or suchlike. Completely misses the point.
What is the point?
People on here are just parroting the GBnews/Daily Mail bollocks.
People have been sharing unemployment statistics, statistics about housing, statistics about amount of money spent, real events of extremism. These are all sensible arguments. You can prove these stats to be wrong. But you never do that. All I see is some patronising remarks being copy pasted across threads
Haven't seen any of that.
Just stuff like:
"Anyone who enters illegally - execute."
Amazing. These people do way more harm to the validity of your supposed "legitimate concerns" about immigrants. "What legitimate concerns? Only concerns we have up in Scotland is that they are slowly creeping up our way. We have a hotel in Perth that's full of them (Station hotel Perth) and I actually saw two of them in my own village of Kinross | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Sensible conversation in here?
The usual suspects will just try to shut everything down with either one of their pithy one liners or try to pull you up because you got a minor detail 00000.0001% wrong.
No no no sensible debate is against the rules on here.
However left wing migrant supporting echo chamber opinions are not only allowed they are encouraged.
You must be new. This is the section of Fab where 90% of forum posters are in a near constant state of panic about immigrants, and anyone not in full panic mode gets ridiculed and attacked.
People who are against immigration have made sensible arguments to back their views. It's only the ones who are pro immigration who are blindly posting same things like "you must consider reform party" instead of making arguments with facts. Still waiting for some evidence for the claims you made by the way.
The only counter arguments offered are usually along the lines 'panicked foreigner hating racists' or suchlike. Completely misses the point.
What is the point?
People on here are just parroting the GBnews/Daily Mail bollocks.
People have been sharing unemployment statistics, statistics about housing, statistics about amount of money spent, real events of extremism. These are all sensible arguments. You can prove these stats to be wrong. But you never do that. All I see is some patronising remarks being copy pasted across threads
Haven't seen any of that.
Just stuff like:
"Anyone who enters illegally - execute."
Amazing. These people do way more harm to the validity of your supposed "legitimate concerns" about immigrants.
What legitimate concerns?
Only concerns we have up in Scotland is that they are slowly creeping up our way.
We have a hotel in Perth that's full of them (Station hotel Perth) and I actually saw two of them in my own village of Kinross "Wow, taking over with 2 in your town | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Sensible conversation in here?
The usual suspects will just try to shut everything down with either one of their pithy one liners or try to pull you up because you got a minor detail 00000.0001% wrong.
No no no sensible debate is against the rules on here.
However left wing migrant supporting echo chamber opinions are not only allowed they are encouraged.
You must be new. This is the section of Fab where 90% of forum posters are in a near constant state of panic about immigrants, and anyone not in full panic mode gets ridiculed and attacked.
People who are against immigration have made sensible arguments to back their views. It's only the ones who are pro immigration who are blindly posting same things like "you must consider reform party" instead of making arguments with facts. Still waiting for some evidence for the claims you made by the way.
The only counter arguments offered are usually along the lines 'panicked foreigner hating racists' or suchlike. Completely misses the point.
What is the point?
People on here are just parroting the GBnews/Daily Mail bollocks.
People have been sharing unemployment statistics, statistics about housing, statistics about amount of money spent, real events of extremism. These are all sensible arguments. You can prove these stats to be wrong. But you never do that. All I see is some patronising remarks being copy pasted across threads
Haven't seen any of that.
Just stuff like:
"Anyone who enters illegally - execute."
Amazing. These people do way more harm to the validity of your supposed "legitimate concerns" about immigrants.
What legitimate concerns?
Only concerns we have up in Scotland is that they are slowly creeping up our way.
We have a hotel in Perth that's full of them (Station hotel Perth) and I actually saw two of them in my own village of Kinross
Wow, taking over with 2 in your town "come to bradford its the other way round 😂absolute shit hole | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! If you think the numbers arriving illegally by boat are the biggest issue… consider this, they are only about 5% of total migration into the UK! Legal migration is 20times the illegal migration! Legal migration is acceptable Illegal migration should carry a death sentence. For the gangs? Harsh but I guess it would stop them You’re ok with executing people? No, the poster who suggested it is " Ok. “Harsh but I guess it would stop them” didn’t exactly sound like you disagreed with the suggestion. Nor did the earlier poster actually mention the gangs, he said “illegal migration should carry the death sentence”. Sounds like he was referring to the migrants themselves | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Sensible conversation in here?
The usual suspects will just try to shut everything down with either one of their pithy one liners or try to pull you up because you got a minor detail 00000.0001% wrong.
No no no sensible debate is against the rules on here.
However left wing migrant supporting echo chamber opinions are not only allowed they are encouraged.
You must be new. This is the section of Fab where 90% of forum posters are in a near constant state of panic about immigrants, and anyone not in full panic mode gets ridiculed and attacked.
People who are against immigration have made sensible arguments to back their views. It's only the ones who are pro immigration who are blindly posting same things like "you must consider reform party" instead of making arguments with facts. Still waiting for some evidence for the claims you made by the way.
The only counter arguments offered are usually along the lines 'panicked foreigner hating racists' or suchlike. Completely misses the point.
What is the point?
People on here are just parroting the GBnews/Daily Mail bollocks.
People have been sharing unemployment statistics, statistics about housing, statistics about amount of money spent, real events of extremism. These are all sensible arguments. You can prove these stats to be wrong. But you never do that. All I see is some patronising remarks being copy pasted across threads
Haven't seen any of that.
Just stuff like:
"Anyone who enters illegally - execute."
Amazing. These people do way more harm to the validity of your supposed "legitimate concerns" about immigrants.
What legitimate concerns?
"Not sure. " Only concerns we have up in Scotland is that they are slowly creeping up our way. We have a hotel in Perth that's full of them (Station hotel Perth) and I actually saw two of them in my own village of Kinross " People panicking about immigrants are coming to Scotland? How can you identify them when they're in Kinross? | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Sensible conversation in here?
The usual suspects will just try to shut everything down with either one of their pithy one liners or try to pull you up because you got a minor detail 00000.0001% wrong.
No no no sensible debate is against the rules on here.
However left wing migrant supporting echo chamber opinions are not only allowed they are encouraged.
You must be new. This is the section of Fab where 90% of forum posters are in a near constant state of panic about immigrants, and anyone not in full panic mode gets ridiculed and attacked.
People who are against immigration have made sensible arguments to back their views. It's only the ones who are pro immigration who are blindly posting same things like "you must consider reform party" instead of making arguments with facts. Still waiting for some evidence for the claims you made by the way.
The only counter arguments offered are usually along the lines 'panicked foreigner hating racists' or suchlike. Completely misses the point.
What is the point?
People on here are just parroting the GBnews/Daily Mail bollocks.
People have been sharing unemployment statistics, statistics about housing, statistics about amount of money spent, real events of extremism. These are all sensible arguments. You can prove these stats to be wrong. But you never do that. All I see is some patronising remarks being copy pasted across threads
Haven't seen any of that.
Just stuff like:
"Anyone who enters illegally - execute."
Amazing. These people do way more harm to the validity of your supposed "legitimate concerns" about immigrants.
What legitimate concerns?
Only concerns we have up in Scotland is that they are slowly creeping up our way.
We have a hotel in Perth that's full of them (Station hotel Perth) and I actually saw two of them in my own village of Kinross "Two! 😂 😂 | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! If you think the numbers arriving illegally by boat are the biggest issue… consider this, they are only about 5% of total migration into the UK! Legal migration is 20times the illegal migration! Legal migration is acceptable Illegal migration should carry a death sentence. For the gangs? Harsh but I guess it would stop them You’re ok with executing people? No, the poster who suggested it is Ok. “Harsh but I guess it would stop them” didn’t exactly sound like you disagreed with the suggestion. Nor did the earlier poster actually mention the gangs, he said “illegal migration should carry the death sentence”. Sounds like he was referring to the migrants themselves " It looks like he is, to clarify , I am definitely against killing innocent asylum seekers , | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Sensible conversation in here?
The usual suspects will just try to shut everything down with either one of their pithy one liners or try to pull you up because you got a minor detail 00000.0001% wrong.
No no no sensible debate is against the rules on here.
However left wing migrant supporting echo chamber opinions are not only allowed they are encouraged.
You must be new. This is the section of Fab where 90% of forum posters are in a near constant state of panic about immigrants, and anyone not in full panic mode gets ridiculed and attacked.
People who are against immigration have made sensible arguments to back their views. It's only the ones who are pro immigration who are blindly posting same things like "you must consider reform party" instead of making arguments with facts. Still waiting for some evidence for the claims you made by the way.
The only counter arguments offered are usually along the lines 'panicked foreigner hating racists' or suchlike. Completely misses the point.
What is the point?
People on here are just parroting the GBnews/Daily Mail bollocks.
People have been sharing unemployment statistics, statistics about housing, statistics about amount of money spent, real events of extremism. These are all sensible arguments. You can prove these stats to be wrong. But you never do that. All I see is some patronising remarks being copy pasted across threads
Haven't seen any of that.
Just stuff like:
"Anyone who enters illegally - execute."
Amazing. These people do way more harm to the validity of your supposed "legitimate concerns" about immigrants.
What legitimate concerns?
Only concerns we have up in Scotland is that they are slowly creeping up our way.
We have a hotel in Perth that's full of them (Station hotel Perth) and I actually saw two of them in my own village of Kinross
Wow, taking over with 2 in your town come to bradford its the other way round 😂absolute shit hole "How many are in Bradford? How can you tell they are asylum seekers ? | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! If you think the numbers arriving illegally by boat are the biggest issue… consider this, they are only about 5% of total migration into the UK! Legal migration is 20times the illegal migration! Legal migration is acceptable Illegal migration should carry a death sentence. For the gangs? Harsh but I guess it would stop them You’re ok with executing people? No, the poster who suggested it is Ok. “Harsh but I guess it would stop them” didn’t exactly sound like you disagreed with the suggestion. Nor did the earlier poster actually mention the gangs, he said “illegal migration should carry the death sentence”. Sounds like he was referring to the migrants themselves " Spot on | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day, !! If you think the numbers arriving illegally by boat are the biggest issue… consider this, they are only about 5% of total migration into the UK! Legal migration is 20times the illegal migration! Legal migration is acceptable Illegal migration should carry a death sentence. For the gangs? Harsh but I guess it would stop them You’re ok with executing people? No, the poster who suggested it is Ok. “Harsh but I guess it would stop them” didn’t exactly sound like you disagreed with the suggestion. Nor did the earlier poster actually mention the gangs, he said “illegal migration should carry the death sentence”. Sounds like he was referring to the migrants themselves Spot on "‘Interesting ‘ views, thankfully they are shared by a tiny minority | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Sensible conversation in here?
The usual suspects will just try to shut everything down with either one of their pithy one liners or try to pull you up because you got a minor detail 00000.0001% wrong.
No no no sensible debate is against the rules on here.
However left wing migrant supporting echo chamber opinions are not only allowed they are encouraged.
You must be new. This is the section of Fab where 90% of forum posters are in a near constant state of panic about immigrants, and anyone not in full panic mode gets ridiculed and attacked.
People who are against immigration have made sensible arguments to back their views. It's only the ones who are pro immigration who are blindly posting same things like "you must consider reform party" instead of making arguments with facts. Still waiting for some evidence for the claims you made by the way.
The only counter arguments offered are usually along the lines 'panicked foreigner hating racists' or suchlike. Completely misses the point.
What is the point?
People on here are just parroting the GBnews/Daily Mail bollocks.
People have been sharing unemployment statistics, statistics about housing, statistics about amount of money spent, real events of extremism. These are all sensible arguments. You can prove these stats to be wrong. But you never do that. All I see is some patronising remarks being copy pasted across threads
Haven't seen any of that.
Just stuff like:
"Anyone who enters illegally - execute."
Amazing. These people do way more harm to the validity of your supposed "legitimate concerns" about immigrants.
What legitimate concerns?
Only concerns we have up in Scotland is that they are slowly creeping up our way.
We have a hotel in Perth that's full of them (Station hotel Perth) and I actually saw two of them in my own village of Kinross
Two! 😂 😂 "Two leads to four, four leads to 8 and so on. Very easily identified and absolutely no reason for them to be here in November, not like it's tourists is it. Plus it wasn't just myself that noticed, a number of villagers commented in the pub that night | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Sensible conversation in here?
The usual suspects will just try to shut everything down with either one of their pithy one liners or try to pull you up because you got a minor detail 00000.0001% wrong.
No no no sensible debate is against the rules on here.
However left wing migrant supporting echo chamber opinions are not only allowed they are encouraged.
You must be new. This is the section of Fab where 90% of forum posters are in a near constant state of panic about immigrants, and anyone not in full panic mode gets ridiculed and attacked.
People who are against immigration have made sensible arguments to back their views. It's only the ones who are pro immigration who are blindly posting same things like "you must consider reform party" instead of making arguments with facts. Still waiting for some evidence for the claims you made by the way.
The only counter arguments offered are usually along the lines 'panicked foreigner hating racists' or suchlike. Completely misses the point.
What is the point?
People on here are just parroting the GBnews/Daily Mail bollocks.
People have been sharing unemployment statistics, statistics about housing, statistics about amount of money spent, real events of extremism. These are all sensible arguments. You can prove these stats to be wrong. But you never do that. All I see is some patronising remarks being copy pasted across threads
Haven't seen any of that.
Just stuff like:
"Anyone who enters illegally - execute."
Amazing. These people do way more harm to the validity of your supposed "legitimate concerns" about immigrants.
What legitimate concerns?
Only concerns we have up in Scotland is that they are slowly creeping up our way.
We have a hotel in Perth that's full of them (Station hotel Perth) and I actually saw two of them in my own village of Kinross
Two! 😂 😂
Two leads to four, four leads to 8 and so on.
Very easily identified and absolutely no reason for them to be here in November, not like it's tourists is it.
Plus it wasn't just myself that noticed, a number of villagers commented in the pub that night "And there is nothing you can do about it? | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Sensible conversation in here?
The usual suspects will just try to shut everything down with either one of their pithy one liners or try to pull you up because you got a minor detail 00000.0001% wrong.
No no no sensible debate is against the rules on here.
However left wing migrant supporting echo chamber opinions are not only allowed they are encouraged.
You must be new. This is the section of Fab where 90% of forum posters are in a near constant state of panic about immigrants, and anyone not in full panic mode gets ridiculed and attacked.
People who are against immigration have made sensible arguments to back their views. It's only the ones who are pro immigration who are blindly posting same things like "you must consider reform party" instead of making arguments with facts. Still waiting for some evidence for the claims you made by the way.
The only counter arguments offered are usually along the lines 'panicked foreigner hating racists' or suchlike. Completely misses the point.
What is the point?
People on here are just parroting the GBnews/Daily Mail bollocks.
People have been sharing unemployment statistics, statistics about housing, statistics about amount of money spent, real events of extremism. These are all sensible arguments. You can prove these stats to be wrong. But you never do that. All I see is some patronising remarks being copy pasted across threads
Haven't seen any of that.
Just stuff like:
"Anyone who enters illegally - execute."
Amazing. These people do way more harm to the validity of your supposed "legitimate concerns" about immigrants.
What legitimate concerns?
Only concerns we have up in Scotland is that they are slowly creeping up our way.
We have a hotel in Perth that's full of them (Station hotel Perth) and I actually saw two of them in my own village of Kinross
Two! 😂 😂
Two leads to four, four leads to 8 and so on.
Very easily identified and absolutely no reason for them to be here in November, not like it's tourists is it.
Plus it wasn't just myself that noticed, a number of villagers commented in the pub that night "Maybe embrace these people, get to know them, help them to assimilate, help them to get work, pay taxes and become productive members of your local society. Help the locals break out of their insular, parochial mindset. | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Sensible conversation in here?
The usual suspects will just try to shut everything down with either one of their pithy one liners or try to pull you up because you got a minor detail 00000.0001% wrong.
No no no sensible debate is against the rules on here.
However left wing migrant supporting echo chamber opinions are not only allowed they are encouraged.
You must be new. This is the section of Fab where 90% of forum posters are in a near constant state of panic about immigrants, and anyone not in full panic mode gets ridiculed and attacked.
People who are against immigration have made sensible arguments to back their views. It's only the ones who are pro immigration who are blindly posting same things like "you must consider reform party" instead of making arguments with facts. Still waiting for some evidence for the claims you made by the way.
The only counter arguments offered are usually along the lines 'panicked foreigner hating racists' or suchlike. Completely misses the point.
What is the point?
People on here are just parroting the GBnews/Daily Mail bollocks.
People have been sharing unemployment statistics, statistics about housing, statistics about amount of money spent, real events of extremism. These are all sensible arguments. You can prove these stats to be wrong. But you never do that. All I see is some patronising remarks being copy pasted across threads
Haven't seen any of that.
Just stuff like:
"Anyone who enters illegally - execute."
Amazing. These people do way more harm to the validity of your supposed "legitimate concerns" about immigrants.
What legitimate concerns?
Only concerns we have up in Scotland is that they are slowly creeping up our way.
We have a hotel in Perth that's full of them (Station hotel Perth) and I actually saw two of them in my own village of Kinross
Two! 😂 😂
Two leads to four, four leads to 8 and so on.
Very easily identified and absolutely no reason for them to be here in November, not like it's tourists is it.
Plus it wasn't just myself that noticed, a number of villagers commented in the pub that night
Maybe embrace these people, get to know them, help them to assimilate, help them to get work, pay taxes and become productive members of your local society. Help the locals break out of their insular, parochial mindset. "Tbf, it might be a local village for local people | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Sensible conversation in here?
The usual suspects will just try to shut everything down with either one of their pithy one liners or try to pull you up because you got a minor detail 00000.0001% wrong.
No no no sensible debate is against the rules on here.
However left wing migrant supporting echo chamber opinions are not only allowed they are encouraged.
You must be new. This is the section of Fab where 90% of forum posters are in a near constant state of panic about immigrants, and anyone not in full panic mode gets ridiculed and attacked.
People who are against immigration have made sensible arguments to back their views. It's only the ones who are pro immigration who are blindly posting same things like "you must consider reform party" instead of making arguments with facts. Still waiting for some evidence for the claims you made by the way.
The only counter arguments offered are usually along the lines 'panicked foreigner hating racists' or suchlike. Completely misses the point.
What is the point?
People on here are just parroting the GBnews/Daily Mail bollocks.
People have been sharing unemployment statistics, statistics about housing, statistics about amount of money spent, real events of extremism. These are all sensible arguments. You can prove these stats to be wrong. But you never do that. All I see is some patronising remarks being copy pasted across threads
Haven't seen any of that.
Just stuff like:
"Anyone who enters illegally - execute."
Amazing. These people do way more harm to the validity of your supposed "legitimate concerns" about immigrants.
What legitimate concerns?
Only concerns we have up in Scotland is that they are slowly creeping up our way.
We have a hotel in Perth that's full of them (Station hotel Perth) and I actually saw two of them in my own village of Kinross
Two! 😂 😂
Two leads to four, four leads to 8 and so on.
Very easily identified and absolutely no reason for them to be here in November, not like it's tourists is it.
Plus it wasn't just myself that noticed, a number of villagers commented in the pub that night
Maybe embrace these people, get to know them, help them to assimilate, help them to get work, pay taxes and become productive members of your local society. Help the locals break out of their insular, parochial mindset.
Tbf, it might be a local village for local people "There is no such thing. We are all entitled to live wherever the hell we want in this country, and the small-minded, xenophobic views being expressed have no place in modern society. | |||
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"Why is it that whenever a legitimate concern is raised about the numbers of people crossing the Channel to enter the country, the person or people raising those concerns are instantly targeted as racist, frightened or in some sort of panic? Where are the sensible conversations in terms of sustainability on resources and our taxes, that is what people are worried about.... I have no idea why it turns into insults at the drop of a hat. Sensible conversation in here?
The usual suspects will just try to shut everything down with either one of their pithy one liners or try to pull you up because you got a minor detail 00000.0001% wrong.
No no no sensible debate is against the rules on here.
However left wing migrant supporting echo chamber opinions are not only allowed they are encouraged.
You must be new. This is the section of Fab where 90% of forum posters are in a near constant state of panic about immigrants, and anyone not in full panic mode gets ridiculed and attacked.
People who are against immigration have made sensible arguments to back their views. It's only the ones who are pro immigration who are blindly posting same things like "you must consider reform party" instead of making arguments with facts. Still waiting for some evidence for the claims you made by the way.
The only counter arguments offered are usually along the lines 'panicked foreigner hating racists' or suchlike. Completely misses the point.
What is the point?
People on here are just parroting the GBnews/Daily Mail bollocks.
People have been sharing unemployment statistics, statistics about housing, statistics about amount of money spent, real events of extremism. These are all sensible arguments. You can prove these stats to be wrong. But you never do that. All I see is some patronising remarks being copy pasted across threads
Haven't seen any of that.
Just stuff like:
"Anyone who enters illegally - execute."
Amazing. These people do way more harm to the validity of your supposed "legitimate concerns" about immigrants.
What legitimate concerns?
Only concerns we have up in Scotland is that they are slowly creeping up our way.
We have a hotel in Perth that's full of them (Station hotel Perth) and I actually saw two of them in my own village of Kinross
Two! 😂 😂
Two leads to four, four leads to 8 and so on.
Very easily identified and absolutely no reason for them to be here in November, not like it's tourists is it.
Plus it wasn't just myself that noticed, a number of villagers commented in the pub that night
Maybe embrace these people, get to know them, help them to assimilate, help them to get work, pay taxes and become productive members of your local society. Help the locals break out of their insular, parochial mindset.
Tbf, it might be a local village for local people
There is no such thing. We are all entitled to live wherever the hell we want in this country, and the small-minded, xenophobic views being expressed have no place in modern society. "Indeed , I am trying to find an explanation for his extreme views | |||
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