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I'm sure if I did and people on here found out they woyld 've glad this witch has snuffed it any way. | |||
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"Where do people grab these numbers from "Their arse Mrs x | |||
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"I'm a little worried now because two schools quite near where I live in Cheshire of Cheshire have closed after students came back from a skiing trip in Italy with flu like symptoms I have type 1 diabetes which affects the immune system and other health problems considered quite serious so veing realistic I could die if I caught it. I'm Not able to work currently and sovt really have a social life so it's not like I leave the house much, so I'll be fine.
I'm sure if I did and people on here found out they woyld 've glad this witch has snuffed it any way. "I love your optimism but wish you all the best sincerely. | |||
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"Where do people grab these numbers from "Elaborate plz | |||
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"Who has it" Those in quarantine | |||
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"Where do people grab these numbers from
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"It's a pandemic....not it's not a pandemic " | |||
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"My sister lives in Milan, one of the areas in quarantine. They are not allowed to leave the area, all schools and places people gather are closed. My niece is going stir crazy as no where for her and her friends to meet. My brother-in-law works the other side of Milan and has been told to work from home. His parents, in their 90s, live outside the quarantine area but the virus doesn't recognise boundaries. I live and work in London, in the two areas where people have been diagnosed with the virus. A colleague came back from Thailand on Friday and was asked at the airport if she was ill. They took her temperature and let her through. Lockdown or complacency? I don't know the answer. " Have your work not implemented the self isolation advice from the government? We had someone travel back from Singapore via Malaysia 2 weeks ago and told him to self isolate. | |||
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"In the last week week I’ve come through Dubai, Amsterdam , Paris and Birmingham international and saw huge numbers of masks. Yet yesterday Heathrow T3, St Pancras and Victoria didn’t see a single mask. Londoners don’t panic. We survived 2 world wars, various terrorist attacks and more recently Brexit , we can survive this " maybe they have just read the fact that they are saying masks are not much help for the general public.. and washing hands often or using anti bacterial spray on your hands is the best option against it. | |||
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"...how worried are you? It's a pandemic (just not official) and UK deaths predicted are 500,000 so will you refrain from venturing to clubs, parties and other places where lots congregate? Discuss x" What is your source for those figures? | |||
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"I don’t think they are telling you every thing We a educated people You don’t go to them extremes with flu ?? " Oh darling put some pants on  | |||
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"In the last week week I’ve come through Dubai, Amsterdam , Paris and Birmingham international and saw huge numbers of masks. Yet yesterday Heathrow T3, St Pancras and Victoria didn’t see a single mask. Londoners don’t panic. We survived 2 world wars, various terrorist attacks and more recently Brexit , we can survive this maybe they have just read the fact that they are saying masks are not much help for the general public.. and washing hands often or using anti bacterial spray on your hands is the best option against it. " I thought this from the start. Masks don’t protect you at all , they only stop carriers spreading it - do people really not know this ? But then I heard it’s hard to transmit from hard surfaces , so why does washing hands help ? Washing hands world because we pick things up on our hands from eneryday shared things like door handles and remotes, where bugs can live. We then transmit them to eyes, nose and mouth. If you practice awareness of not touching your face, you no no longer catch colds. I think we are being lied to | |||
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"In the last week week I’ve come through Dubai, Amsterdam , Paris and Birmingham international and saw huge numbers of masks. Yet yesterday Heathrow T3, St Pancras and Victoria didn’t see a single mask. Londoners don’t panic. We survived 2 world wars, various terrorist attacks and more recently Brexit , we can survive this maybe they have just read the fact that they are saying masks are not much help for the general public.. and washing hands often or using anti bacterial spray on your hands is the best option against it. I thought this from the start. Masks don’t protect you at all , they only stop carriers spreading it - do people really not know this ? But then I heard it’s hard to transmit from hard surfaces , so why does washing hands help ? Washing hands world because we pick things up on our hands from eneryday shared things like door handles and remotes, where bugs can live. We then transmit them to eyes, nose and mouth. If you practice awareness of not touching your face, you no no longer catch colds. I think we are being lied to " it helps for most viruses.. have you seen when they do those photos of how many germs on rails and door handles etc.. . I'm no germaphobe.. but even I get a little OCD with my hand washing... think most of the advice is basic advice as they are not really sure how its transferred as yet but just that masks dont really help unless someone is trying not to infect others. | |||
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"Who has it Those in quarantine " Incorrect !! Everyone in quarantine does not have the virus. They are there as a precaution because of where they have been or, as an example, the residents of the hotel in Tenerife are in lockdown / quarantine as one man from Italy staying there fell ill and tested positive for the virus. It does not mean that all those at the hotel are sick, but instead being held to see if any symptoms develop. This is no different than the individuals that were on the cruise ship or nationals in China repatriated back to the UK, they all went into quarantine. It is basic precautions being put in place | |||
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"...how worried are you? It's a pandemic (just not official) and UK deaths predicted are 500,000 so will you refrain from venturing to clubs, parties and other places where lots congregate? Discuss x What is your source for those figures?" https://mol.im/a/8045003 | |||
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"...how worried are you? It's a pandemic (just not official) and UK deaths predicted are 500,000 so will you refrain from venturing to clubs, parties and other places where lots congregate? Discuss x What is your source for those figures? https://mol.im/a/8045003" did you actually read the whole article.... it's a worst case scenario figure | |||
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"Who has it Those in quarantine Incorrect !! Everyone in quarantine does not have the virus. They are there as a precaution because of where they have been or, as an example, the residents of the hotel in Tenerife are in lockdown / quarantine as one man from Italy staying there fell ill and tested positive for the virus. It does not mean that all those at the hotel are sick, but instead being held to see if any symptoms develop. This is no different than the individuals that were on the cruise ship or nationals in China repatriated back to the UK, they all went into quarantine. It is basic precautions being put in place " I was being facetious as it was a silly question I felt. | |||
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"...how worried are you? It's a pandemic (just not official) and UK deaths predicted are 500,000 so will you refrain from venturing to clubs, parties and other places where lots congregate? Discuss x What is your source for those figures? https://mol.im/a/8045003" How come posting all sorts of bollocks links is ok these days? | |||
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"Who has it Those in quarantine Incorrect !! Everyone in quarantine does not have the virus. They are there as a precaution because of where they have been or, as an example, the residents of the hotel in Tenerife are in lockdown / quarantine as one man from Italy staying there fell ill and tested positive for the virus. It does not mean that all those at the hotel are sick, but instead being held to see if any symptoms develop. This is no different than the individuals that were on the cruise ship or nationals in China repatriated back to the UK, they all went into quarantine. It is basic precautions being put in place I was being facetious as it was a silly question I felt. " Not really, we’ve had so many of these threads and it is someone’s gut reaction to your opening statement | |||
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"...how worried are you? It's a pandemic (just not official) and UK deaths predicted are 500,000 so will you refrain from venturing to clubs, parties and other places where lots congregate? Discuss x What is your source for those figures? https://mol.im/a/8045003" Ah, the Daily Mail, they never scaremonger about anything
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"Where do people grab these numbers from
Elaborate plz"It was you that posted the numbers you should elaborate. So where did you get that number from? | |||
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"...how worried are you? It's a pandemic (just not official) and UK deaths predicted are 500,000 so will you refrain from venturing to clubs, parties and other places where lots congregate? Discuss x What is your source for those figures? https://mol.im/a/8045003 How come posting all sorts of bollocks links is ok these days?" It is a News link. News links are allowed. Here are the forum rules where you will find out what is allowed https://www.fabswingers.com/content/forum-rules If it wasn't allowed a mod would need to be online and reading this thread to be able to deal with it. | |||
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"One childhood memory I have was never accepting a drink from friends who had d*unk out of a bottle or can first. I would just say I wasn't thirsty. I still do this and if I have a bottle of pop I will first open it then drink then offer. If anyone accepts then I will hand over but not drink after..." Quite right, that's where the Corona virus came from  | |||
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"Who has it Those in quarantine Incorrect !! Everyone in quarantine does not have the virus. They are there as a precaution because of where they have been or, as an example, the residents of the hotel in Tenerife are in lockdown / quarantine as one man from Italy staying there fell ill and tested positive for the virus. It does not mean that all those at the hotel are sick, but instead being held to see if any symptoms develop. This is no different than the individuals that were on the cruise ship or nationals in China repatriated back to the UK, they all went into quarantine. It is basic precautions being put in place I was being facetious as it was a silly question I felt. Not really, we’ve had so many of these threads and it is someone’s gut reaction to your opening statement " Yes really I said it was a silly question I felt as in it's what I felt subjective to me that is my take om the question being posed. Not really doesnt register as its subjective and how it came across to me but I didnt know many more threads were on about this as over my 6+years here I dont frequent the forums much just whenever the mood arises. | |||
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"...how worried are you? It's a pandemic (just not official) and UK deaths predicted are 500,000 so will you refrain from venturing to clubs, parties and other places where lots congregate? Discuss x What is your source for those figures? https://mol.im/a/8045003 How come posting all sorts of bollocks links is ok these days? It is a News link. News links are allowed. Here are the forum rules where you will find out what is allowed https://www.fabswingers.com/content/forum-rules If it wasn't allowed a mod would need to be online and reading this thread to be able to deal with it. " Exactly a news link not a bollocks links lmao | |||
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"Who has it Those in quarantine " Only 4 people currently have the virus in the UK. All the other cases have recovered and left hospital. Those in quarantine are there as a precaution. | |||
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"Im worried it will affect our holidays this year had planned to go to Tenerife in Oct "Yes that is something I'm a little concerned about. We have booked to go to Spain in June. But I'm not overly worried. | |||
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"Im worried it will affect our holidays this year had planned to go to Tenerife in Oct
Yes that is something I'm a little concerned about. We have booked to go to Spain in June. But I'm not overly worried. "I'm going to Vietnam on Saturday. But now I think I won't be allowed on a Miami to Mexico cruise ten days after I come back. | |||
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"Im worried it will affect our holidays this year had planned to go to Tenerife in Oct
Yes that is something I'm a little concerned about. We have booked to go to Spain in June. But I'm not overly worried.
I'm going to Vietnam on Saturday. But now I think I won't be allowed on a Miami to Mexico cruise ten days after I come back. "Vietnam is not currently on the government watch list, fingers crossed it doesn’t appear and your Mexico cruise can go ahead | |||
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"I for one am very very worried. As a rule I have never used handrails on public stairs or escalators. If in a public toilet I never touch the door handles directly. And in McDonalds I never use those touchscreens.. I wonder how often they are cleaned properly. Germs are everywhere..I also have a theory about those chemicals that promise to kill 99.9% of all germs. They encourage the growth of superbugs. Very Very worrying times to be sure." Are you Sheldon Cooper? | |||
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"Has anyone stopped going to the chippy?" Didn't read about any chippies being put into quarantine. Though I've experienced one or two that ought to be. | |||
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"Has anyone stopped going to the chippy? Didn't read about any chippies being put into quarantine. Though I've experienced one or two that ought to be." Don't! I'm starving now... | |||
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"Ireland v Italy rugby just postponed.. they don't do that for flu.. This is getting feckin serious Wake up Peoples FFS Wake Up What's going on here ? " they would do it if it for anything they are trying to get a head of x in 2009 ( think that is when swine flu was) I remember flights being cancelled etc x and football matches ( I could be mistaken about the later but I do know flights were ) It makes sense to cancel something in an area they are trying to contain. Still no need to panic | |||
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"Ah, the Daily Mail, they never scaremonger about anything
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"...how worried are you? It's a pandemic (just not official) and UK deaths predicted are 500,000 so will you refrain from venturing to clubs, parties and other places where lots congregate? Discuss x What is your source for those figures? https://mol.im/a/8045003 How come posting all sorts of bollocks links is ok these days?" I know it's the Mail Clem but we have to treat it as a newspaper. | |||
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"Who has it Those in quarantine " No, those in quarantine are held in order to stop the spread, as someone close to them has it and they could possibly be infected. However, close quarantine like on a cruise ship, in an hotel, or if you live in communal accommodation (block of flats etc) puts you at much higher risk of getting infected, whilst lowering the risk to those outside who you would otherwise have come into contact with. Greatest good of the greatest number....pray you dont end up in quarantine. | |||
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"I for one am very very worried. As a rule I have never used handrails on public stairs or escalators. If in a public toilet I never touch the door handles directly. And in McDonalds I never use those touchscreens.. I wonder how often they are cleaned properly. Germs are everywhere..I also have a theory about those chemicals that promise to kill 99.9% of all germs. They encourage the growth of superbugs. Very Very worrying times to be sure." Do you lick pussy ? | |||
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"...how worried are you? It's a pandemic (just not official) and UK deaths predicted are 500,000 so will you refrain from venturing to clubs, parties and other places where lots congregate? Discuss x" Yup, I'll refrain. Underlying healthy conditions mean I'll probably die. A young family member is also immune compromised so it's very concerning but can't make it not happen so I'll just have to try try to do the best I can to keep our health as good as it can be rn and be sensible about minimising contact if it's in local area/city | |||
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"I just looked out the Windows red cross on doors and the bin men walking down the street shouting bring out the dead "Don't be so facetious !!! They are refuse operatives... | |||
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"Essex has just been cordoned off. Not because of the virus but because it's a shithole. Not before time... "That insults so many people... | |||
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"I wonder if Tom has had his cream pie yet. "You are a tinker  | |||
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"I wonder if Tom has had his cream pie yet. "Tempted  | |||
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"...how worried are you? It's a pandemic (just not official) and UK deaths predicted are 500,000 so will you refrain from venturing to clubs, parties and other places where lots congregate? Discuss x" Really 500,000? Where did you hear that? Not reading the Sun or the Mail are you? In China, over 100,000 reported cases. Death rate, less than 2%. UK, 60 billion people, death rate @ 2% = 1,200,000 if and that's a big IF, every single person catches it. So to reach your 500000 at least half of the UK would have to catch the virus. Chances of that are? The only people really are risk are the elderly, the infirm, those with underlying illnesses made deadly by the flu. More people die each year of the normal flu, by a huge margin at that, than those with this new strain. It's the flu, it's a bugger but the vast majority won't catch it and, again, the vast majority will be fine from those that do. As corporal Jones says ... Don't panic! | |||
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"...how worried are you? It's a pandemic (just not official) and UK deaths predicted are 500,000 so will you refrain from venturing to clubs, parties and other places where lots congregate? Discuss x Really 500,000? Where did you hear that? Not reading the Sun or the Mail are you? In China, over 100,000 reported cases. Death rate, less than 2%. UK, 60 billion people, death rate @ 2% = 1,200,000 if and that's a big IF, every single person catches it. So to reach your 500000 at least half of the UK would have to catch the virus. Chances of that are? The only people really are risk are the elderly, the infirm, those with underlying illnesses made deadly by the flu. More people die each year of the normal flu, by a huge margin at that, than those with this new strain. It's the flu, it's a bugger but the vast majority won't catch it and, again, the vast majority will be fine from those that do. As corporal Jones says ... Don't panic!" That maybe the case but it's vital for the young and healthy to take perceptions and take official advice as to protect the valuable. | |||
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"I am washing my hands and using gel more often. But not overly worried. " Snap. The problem is Iv seen a news report about the man from Brighton and his wife said it was all fuss over nothing and he wasn't that unwell so shouldn't have to be quarantined. But the issue is he may be fit and well but many aren't. I think we all have a responsibility to help keep others safe. | |||
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"One childhood memory I have was never accepting a drink from friends who had d*unk out of a bottle or can first. I would just say I wasn't thirsty. I still do this and if I have a bottle of pop I will first open it then drink then offer. If anyone accepts then I will hand over bit not drink after..." You obviously don't ever snog anyone either then... Far more nasties in someone's mouth | |||
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"Not worried in the slightest. Just the media hyping it all up out of proportion. More important things to think about, such as what shall I have for tea tonight." I don't think it's being hypeped up at all. I think very sensible advice is being given. | |||
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"I wonder if Tom has had his cream pie yet.
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"My sister lives in Milan, one of the areas in quarantine. They are not allowed to leave the area, all schools and places people gather are closed. My niece is going stir crazy as no where for her and her friends to meet. My brother-in-law works the other side of Milan and has been told to work from home. His parents, in their 90s, live outside the quarantine area but the virus doesn't recognise boundaries. I live and work in London, in the two areas where people have been diagnosed with the virus. A colleague came back from Thailand on Friday and was asked at the airport if she was ill. They took her temperature and let her through. Lockdown or complacency? I don't know the answer. Have your work not implemented the self isolation advice from the government? We had someone travel back from Singapore via Malaysia 2 weeks ago and told him to self isolate. " No...Nothing at all. | |||
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"Quarantine my arse... I know what I know.. Wakey Wakey ! Times are getting serious " And what do you know? | |||
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"Quarantine my arse... I know what I know.. Wakey Wakey ! Times are getting serious And what do you know?" I know, there I was thinking thinking this thread pandemic was dying out and there's another outbreak | |||
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"Quarantine my arse... I know what I know.. Wakey Wakey ! Times are getting serious And what do you know? I know, there I was thinking thinking this thread pandemic was dying out and there's another outbreak "It's very contagious. | |||
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"Quarantine my arse... I know what I know.. Wakey Wakey ! Times are getting serious And what do you know? I know, there I was thinking thinking this thread pandemic was dying out and there's another outbreak "But surely if he knows something that will save me getting a mild cough, I have to be told | |||
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"Quarantine my arse... I know what I know.. Wakey Wakey ! Times are getting serious And what do you know? I know, there I was thinking thinking this thread pandemic was dying out and there's another outbreak
It's very contagious. "I think he is in danger of spontaneously combusting! | |||
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"Quarantine my arse... I know what I know.. Wakey Wakey ! Times are getting serious And what do you know? I know, there I was thinking thinking this thread pandemic was dying out and there's another outbreak
It's very contagious.
I think he is in danger of spontaneously combusting!"Don't tease me You can't deliver on these promises | |||
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"In the last week week I’ve come through Dubai, Amsterdam , Paris and Birmingham international and saw huge numbers of masks. Yet yesterday Heathrow T3, St Pancras and Victoria didn’t see a single mask. Londoners don’t panic. We survived 2 world wars, various terrorist attacks and more recently Brexit , we can survive this maybe they have just read the fact that they are saying masks are not much help for the general public.. and washing hands often or using anti bacterial spray on your hands is the best option against it. I thought this from the start. Masks don’t protect you at all , they only stop carriers spreading it - do people really not know this ? But then I heard it’s hard to transmit from hard surfaces , so why does washing hands help ? Washing hands world because we pick things up on our hands from eneryday shared things like door handles and remotes, where bugs can live. We then transmit them to eyes, nose and mouth. If you practice awareness of not touching your face, you no no longer catch colds. I think we are being lied to " When you say being lied to, what are you referring to? | |||
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"Quarantine my arse... I know what I know.. Wakey Wakey ! Times are getting serious And what do you know? I know, there I was thinking thinking this thread pandemic was dying out and there's another outbreak
But surely if he knows something that will save me getting a mild cough, I have to be told "Mild if you are healthy. I don't think we should be at panic stations but it is to be taken seriously. | |||
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"How many times has 'wake up people's' been said? Cba to read the thread." Enough for them to be researching for a vaccine for it | |||
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"Quarantine my arse... I know what I know.. Wakey Wakey ! Times are getting serious And what do you know? I know, there I was thinking thinking this thread pandemic was dying out and there's another outbreak
But surely if he knows something that will save me getting a mild cough, I have to be told
Mild if you are healthy.
I don't think we should be at panic stations but it is to be taken seriously. "Taken seriously certainly, overreacted to? No. Masks being worn on the tube, staff in Canary wharf building sent home...? | |||
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"How many times has 'wake up people's' been said? Cba to read the thread. Enough for them to be researching for a vaccine for it" Like they are doing for this season's flu as well? | |||
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"...how worried are you? It's a pandemic (just not official) and UK deaths predicted are 500,000 so will you refrain from venturing to clubs, parties and other places where lots congregate? Discuss x Really 500,000? Where did you hear that? Not reading the Sun or the Mail are you? In China, over 100,000 reported cases. Death rate, less than 2%. UK, 60 billion people, death rate @ 2% = 1,200,000 if and that's a big IF, every single person catches it. So to reach your 500000 at least half of the UK would have to catch the virus. Chances of that are? The only people really are risk are the elderly, the infirm, those with underlying illnesses made deadly by the flu. More people die each year of the normal flu, by a huge margin at that, than those with this new strain. It's the flu, it's a bugger but the vast majority won't catch it and, again, the vast majority will be fine from those that do. As corporal Jones says ... Don't panic!" I don’t really like people saying don’t panic When medical experts are preparing for a pandemic. Equally though I don’t like people ramping up an apocalyptic situation. I think everyone should just be weary and cautious that this could hit the U.K. and dial down the tone to be honest. If you’re affected, self isolate where possible. I’m not that worried personally | |||
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"...how worried are you? It's a pandemic (just not official) and UK deaths predicted are 500,000 so will you refrain from venturing to clubs, parties and other places where lots congregate? Discuss x Really 500,000? Where did you hear that? Not reading the Sun or the Mail are you? In China, over 100,000 reported cases. Death rate, less than 2%. UK, 60 billion people, death rate @ 2% = 1,200,000 if and that's a big IF, every single person catches it. So to reach your 500000 at least half of the UK would have to catch the virus. Chances of that are? The only people really are risk are the elderly, the infirm, those with underlying illnesses made deadly by the flu. More people die each year of the normal flu, by a huge margin at that, than those with this new strain. It's the flu, it's a bugger but the vast majority won't catch it and, again, the vast majority will be fine from those that do. As corporal Jones says ... Don't panic!" You need to check your figures. Firstly there are 60 billion people in the U.K. and secondly the mortality rate of the normal flu is less than 1% Another thing to take into account is that we don't really know the mortality rate of this particular virus as it can't be calculated until it all over. There are currently many people who have it who will probably due from it so they are only calculated into one aspect. Also there are many who have had it in a mild form, and never reported it so they aren't included in the calculation. Personally my main concern is the rate at which it has spread and the authorities precautions against it, and the deceptive, secretive nature of the country it has come from. | |||
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"Quarantine my arse... I know what I know.. Wakey Wakey ! Times are getting serious And what do you know? I know, there I was thinking thinking this thread pandemic was dying out and there's another outbreak
But surely if he knows something that will save me getting a mild cough, I have to be told
Mild if you are healthy.
I don't think we should be at panic stations but it is to be taken seriously.
Taken seriously certainly, overreacted to? No.
Masks being worn on the tube, staff in Canary wharf building sent home...?"Yes of course. Surely that's just sensible precautions. What is going to the issue is people saying it's a "mild" cold. People are dying so if we can take sensible action to reduce spread, why would we not? | |||
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"Quarantine my arse... I know what I know.. Wakey Wakey ! Times are getting serious And what do you know? I know, there I was thinking thinking this thread pandemic was dying out and there's another outbreak
But surely if he knows something that will save me getting a mild cough, I have to be told
Mild if you are healthy.
I don't think we should be at panic stations but it is to be taken seriously.
Taken seriously certainly, overreacted to? No.
Masks being worn on the tube, staff in Canary wharf building sent home...?
Yes of course. Surely that's just sensible precautions.
What is going to the issue is people saying it's a "mild" cold.
People are dying so if we can take sensible action to reduce spread, why would we not? "Should we not just be following the guidelines issued by the government? Bin tissues, wash hands with soap and water / gel? | |||
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"Quarantine my arse... I know what I know.. Wakey Wakey ! Times are getting serious And what do you know? I know, there I was thinking thinking this thread pandemic was dying out and there's another outbreak
But surely if he knows something that will save me getting a mild cough, I have to be told
Mild if you are healthy.
I don't think we should be at panic stations but it is to be taken seriously.
Taken seriously certainly, overreacted to? No.
Masks being worn on the tube, staff in Canary wharf building sent home...?
Yes of course. Surely that's just sensible precautions.
What is going to the issue is people saying it's a "mild" cold.
People are dying so if we can take sensible action to reduce spread, why would we not?
Should we not just be following the guidelines issued by the government? Bin tissues, wash hands with soap and water / gel?"And self quarantine if we have been to affected areas. I really don't see why someone wearing a mask on the tube impacts you or anyone else in anyway. | |||
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"...how worried are you? It's a pandemic (just not official) and UK deaths predicted are 500,000 so will you refrain from venturing to clubs, parties and other places where lots congregate? Discuss x Really 500,000? Where did you hear that? Not reading the Sun or the Mail are you? In China, over 100,000 reported cases. Death rate, less than 2%. UK, 60 billion people, death rate @ 2% = 1,200,000 if and that's a big IF, every single person catches it. So to reach your 500000 at least half of the UK would have to catch the virus. Chances of that are? The only people really are risk are the elderly, the infirm, those with underlying illnesses made deadly by the flu. More people die each year of the normal flu, by a huge margin at that, than those with this new strain. It's the flu, it's a bugger but the vast majority won't catch it and, again, the vast majority will be fine from those that do. As corporal Jones says ... Don't panic! You need to check your figures. Firstly there are 60 billion people in the U.K. and secondly the mortality rate of the normal flu is less than 1% Another thing to take into account is that we don't really know the mortality rate of this particular virus as it can't be calculated until it all over. There are currently many people who have it who will probably due from it so they are only calculated into one aspect. Also there are many who have had it in a mild form, and never reported it so they aren't included in the calculation. Personally my main concern is the rate at which it has spread and the authorities precautions against it, and the deceptive, secretive nature of the country it has come from." 60 Billion in the UK ...where are they | |||
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"Get a grip peoples This is spreading faster than it did in China.. Our medical experts are the onez panicking.. They will never cope.. Get a Grip Peoples... " Ooo that's a new one | |||
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"Get a grip peoples This is spreading faster than it did in China.. Our medical experts are the onez panicking.. They will never cope.. Get a Grip Peoples... Ooo that's a new one" Praise the Lord | |||
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"Quarantine my arse... I know what I know.. Wakey Wakey ! Times are getting serious And what do you know? I know, there I was thinking thinking this thread pandemic was dying out and there's another outbreak
But surely if he knows something that will save me getting a mild cough, I have to be told
Mild if you are healthy.
I don't think we should be at panic stations but it is to be taken seriously.
Taken seriously certainly, overreacted to? No.
Masks being worn on the tube, staff in Canary wharf building sent home...?
Yes of course. Surely that's just sensible precautions.
What is going to the issue is people saying it's a "mild" cold.
People are dying so if we can take sensible action to reduce spread, why would we not?
Should we not just be following the guidelines issued by the government? Bin tissues, wash hands with soap and water / gel?
And self quarantine if we have been to affected areas.
I really don't see why someone wearing a mask on the tube impacts you or anyone else in anyway. "Not saying it impacts me or anyone else, just asking is it an overreaction to something that's a moderate threat according to the government. If everyone starts wearing masks when they dont need to, will it lead to more panic? | |||
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"The army will be on our streets soon.. mark my words " With microguns to shoot the virus? | |||
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"The army will be on our streets soon.. mark my words With microguns to shoot the virus?" Detol anti-bac sprays Which will be useless as this is viral not bacterial (The thread that is) | |||
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"Quarantine my arse... I know what I know.. Wakey Wakey ! Times are getting serious And what do you know? I know, there I was thinking thinking this thread pandemic was dying out and there's another outbreak
But surely if he knows something that will save me getting a mild cough, I have to be told
Mild if you are healthy.
I don't think we should be at panic stations but it is to be taken seriously.
Taken seriously certainly, overreacted to? No.
Masks being worn on the tube, staff in Canary wharf building sent home...?
Yes of course. Surely that's just sensible precautions.
What is going to the issue is people saying it's a "mild" cold.
People are dying so if we can take sensible action to reduce spread, why would we not?
Should we not just be following the guidelines issued by the government? Bin tissues, wash hands with soap and water / gel?
And self quarantine if we have been to affected areas.
I really don't see why someone wearing a mask on the tube impacts you or anyone else in anyway.
Not saying it impacts me or anyone else, just asking is it an overreaction to something that's a moderate threat according to the government.
If everyone starts wearing masks when they dont need to, will it lead to more panic?"It's not Panic...it's being aware and realising the truth.. People will die and some people are in a cocoon .. Wake Up .. This will affect us all.. Get a grip people | |||
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"I for one am very very worried. As a rule I have never used handrails on public stairs or escalators. If in a public toilet Are you Sheldon Cooper? " Penny knock Knock knock Penny | |||
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"...how worried are you? It's a pandemic (just not official) and UK deaths predicted are 500,000 so will you refrain from venturing to clubs, parties and other places where lots congregate? Discuss x Really 500,000? Where did you hear that? Not reading the Sun or the Mail are you? In China, over 100,000 reported cases. Death rate, less than 2%. UK, 60 billion people, death rate @ 2% = 1,200,000 if and that's a big IF, every single person catches it. So to reach your 500000 at least half of the UK would have to catch the virus. Chances of that are? The only people really are risk are the elderly, the infirm, those with underlying illnesses made deadly by the flu. More people die each year of the normal flu, by a huge margin at that, than those with this new strain. It's the flu, it's a bugger but the vast majority won't catch it and, again, the vast majority will be fine from those that do. As corporal Jones says ... Don't panic! You need to check your figures. Firstly there are 60 billion people in the U.K. and secondly the mortality rate of the normal flu is less than 1% Another thing to take into account is that we don't really know the mortality rate of this particular virus as it can't be calculated until it all over. There are currently many people who have it who will probably due from it so they are only calculated into one aspect. Also there are many who have had it in a mild form, and never reported it so they aren't included in the calculation. Personally my main concern is the rate at which it has spread and the authorities precautions against it, and the deceptive, secretive nature of the country it has come from. 60 Billion in the UK ...where are they "Actually if you read the post I quoted you would have realised I meant to correct them for saying 60 billion, my phone autocorrected "are" | |||
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"Quarantine my arse... I know what I know.. Wakey Wakey ! Times are getting serious And what do you know? I know, there I was thinking thinking this thread pandemic was dying out and there's another outbreak
But surely if he knows something that will save me getting a mild cough, I have to be told
Mild if you are healthy.
I don't think we should be at panic stations but it is to be taken seriously.
Taken seriously certainly, overreacted to? No.
Masks being worn on the tube, staff in Canary wharf building sent home...?
Yes of course. Surely that's just sensible precautions.
What is going to the issue is people saying it's a "mild" cold.
People are dying so if we can take sensible action to reduce spread, why would we not?
Should we not just be following the guidelines issued by the government? Bin tissues, wash hands with soap and water / gel?
And self quarantine if we have been to affected areas.
I really don't see why someone wearing a mask on the tube impacts you or anyone else in anyway.
Not saying it impacts me or anyone else, just asking is it an overreaction to something that's a moderate threat according to the government.
If everyone starts wearing masks when they dont need to, will it lead to more panic?
It's not Panic...it's being aware and realising the truth..
People will die and some people are in a cocoon ..
Wake Up ..
This will affect us all..
Get a grip people"Surely being in a cocoon is self-isolating? | |||
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"Quarantine my arse... I know what I know.. Wakey Wakey ! Times are getting serious And what do you know? I know, there I was thinking thinking this thread pandemic was dying out and there's another outbreak
But surely if he knows something that will save me getting a mild cough, I have to be told
Mild if you are healthy.
I don't think we should be at panic stations but it is to be taken seriously.
Taken seriously certainly, overreacted to? No.
Masks being worn on the tube, staff in Canary wharf building sent home...?
Yes of course. Surely that's just sensible precautions.
What is going to the issue is people saying it's a "mild" cold.
People are dying so if we can take sensible action to reduce spread, why would we not?
Should we not just be following the guidelines issued by the government? Bin tissues, wash hands with soap and water / gel?
And self quarantine if we have been to affected areas.
I really don't see why someone wearing a mask on the tube impacts you or anyone else in anyway.
Not saying it impacts me or anyone else, just asking is it an overreaction to something that's a moderate threat according to the government.
If everyone starts wearing masks when they dont need to, will it lead to more panic?
It's not Panic...it's being aware and realising the truth..
People will die and some people are in a cocoon ..
Wake Up ..
This will affect us all..
Get a grip people
Surely being in a cocoon is self-isolating?"What a bizzare movie that was | |||
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"Quarantine my arse... I know what I know.. Wakey Wakey ! Times are getting serious And what do you know? I know, there I was thinking thinking this thread pandemic was dying out and there's another outbreak
But surely if he knows something that will save me getting a mild cough, I have to be told
Mild if you are healthy.
I don't think we should be at panic stations but it is to be taken seriously.
Taken seriously certainly, overreacted to? No.
Masks being worn on the tube, staff in Canary wharf building sent home...?
Yes of course. Surely that's just sensible precautions.
What is going to the issue is people saying it's a "mild" cold.
People are dying so if we can take sensible action to reduce spread, why would we not?
Should we not just be following the guidelines issued by the government? Bin tissues, wash hands with soap and water / gel?
And self quarantine if we have been to affected areas.
I really don't see why someone wearing a mask on the tube impacts you or anyone else in anyway.
Not saying it impacts me or anyone else, just asking is it an overreaction to something that's a moderate threat according to the government.
If everyone starts wearing masks when they dont need to, will it lead to more panic?
It's not Panic...it's being aware and realising the truth..
People will die and some people are in a cocoon ..
Wake Up ..
This will affect us all..
Get a grip people
Surely being in a cocoon is self-isolating?
What a bizzare movie that was"True ... all THOSE old people survived | |||
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"I am out now but please please do not believe every you are told. It changes daily.. No schools shut now schools shut.. Wake Up Peoples The army will be on the streets soon.. mark my words.. And if it mutates then ... Pets will be sacrificed... Wakey Wakey.. I am.out of here .. " I am concerned, and I don't think people should be dismissive but just what do you suggest people do when they "wake up"? Apart from keeping vigilant with hygiene and avoiding crowds when we can there isn't anything we can do. We have to live our lives, go to work, school, the shops etc. Or we'll have another kind of emergency | |||
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"I am out now but please please do not believe every you are told. It changes daily.. No schools shut now schools shut.. Wake Up Peoples The army will be on the streets soon.. mark my words.. And if it mutates then ... Pets will be sacrificed... Wakey Wakey.. I am.out of here .. " Tin foil will run out ... we'll have to use food trays to make our hats!!! | |||
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"Quarantine my arse... I know what I know.. Wakey Wakey ! Times are getting serious And what do you know? I know, there I was thinking thinking this thread pandemic was dying out and there's another outbreak
But surely if he knows something that will save me getting a mild cough, I have to be told
Mild if you are healthy.
I don't think we should be at panic stations but it is to be taken seriously.
Taken seriously certainly, overreacted to? No.
Masks being worn on the tube, staff in Canary wharf building sent home...?
Yes of course. Surely that's just sensible precautions.
What is going to the issue is people saying it's a "mild" cold.
People are dying so if we can take sensible action to reduce spread, why would we not?
Should we not just be following the guidelines issued by the government? Bin tissues, wash hands with soap and water / gel?
And self quarantine if we have been to affected areas.
I really don't see why someone wearing a mask on the tube impacts you or anyone else in anyway.
Not saying it impacts me or anyone else, just asking is it an overreaction to something that's a moderate threat according to the government.
If everyone starts wearing masks when they dont need to, will it lead to more panic?"How often do use the tube? I have seen many people wearing masks on the tube over the years. I haven't noticed an increase. | |||
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"I am out now but please please do not believe every you are told. It changes daily.. No schools shut now schools shut.. Wake Up Peoples The army will be on the streets soon.. mark my words.. And if it mutates then ... Pets will be sacrificed... Wakey Wakey.. I am.out of here .. I am concerned, and I don't think people should be dismissive but just what do you suggest people do when they "wake up"? Apart from keeping vigilant with hygiene and avoiding crowds when we can there isn't anything we can do. We have to live our lives, go to work, school, the shops etc. Or we'll have another kind of emergency " There isn't enormous amount we can do to prevent aquring COVID-19. There's a lot we can do to prevent spreading it once you have it. I think that's where we need to have the right attitude. | |||
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"I am out now but please please do not believe every you are told. It changes daily.. No schools shut now schools shut.. Wake Up Peoples The army will be on the streets soon.. mark my words.. And if it mutates then ... Pets will be sacrificed... Wakey Wakey.. I am.out of here .. I am concerned, and I don't think people should be dismissive but just what do you suggest people do when they "wake up"? Apart from keeping vigilant with hygiene and avoiding crowds when we can there isn't anything we can do. We have to live our lives, go to work, school, the shops etc. Or we'll have another kind of emergency There isn't enormous amount we can do to prevent aquring COVID-19. There's a lot we can do to prevent spreading it once you have it. I think that's where we need to have the right attitude. " Absolutely. | |||
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"Quarantine my arse... I know what I know.. Wakey Wakey ! Times are getting serious And what do you know? I know, there I was thinking thinking this thread pandemic was dying out and there's another outbreak
But surely if he knows something that will save me getting a mild cough, I have to be told
Mild if you are healthy.
I don't think we should be at panic stations but it is to be taken seriously.
Taken seriously certainly, overreacted to? No.
Masks being worn on the tube, staff in Canary wharf building sent home...?
Yes of course. Surely that's just sensible precautions.
What is going to the issue is people saying it's a "mild" cold.
People are dying so if we can take sensible action to reduce spread, why would we not?
Should we not just be following the guidelines issued by the government? Bin tissues, wash hands with soap and water / gel?
And self quarantine if we have been to affected areas.
I really don't see why someone wearing a mask on the tube impacts you or anyone else in anyway.
Not saying it impacts me or anyone else, just asking is it an overreaction to something that's a moderate threat according to the government.
If everyone starts wearing masks when they dont need to, will it lead to more panic?
How often do use the tube?
I have seen many people wearing masks on the tube over the years. I haven't noticed an increase.
"When I'm in London...every day, best way to get around. Im not there today so just quoting news reports, they've probably been out searching for people with masks on to help the circulation of their news. Are you doing anything differently if you on the tube a lot? | |||
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"The army will be on our streets soon.. mark my words What will they be doing?" Dispensing hand sanitiser | |||
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"Ah shit, the monkeys are in the thread, well it is going to spread now isn't it! I've seen that damn movie! I know how it ends. " I am a hygienic monkey don't you know | |||
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"5 people died today. On the UK roads. That's the UK average each and every day." Why do people keep quoting car accidents, gun violence, etc etc. Those other means of dying are still going to be out there. Now there's just one more. People don't shut down cities for car crashes, the don't quarantine ships and hotels, they don't shut down factories or effect economics. Bottom line is you don't have do die to be affected by this virus. | |||
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"Ah shit, the monkeys are in the thread, well it is going to spread now isn't it! I've seen that damn movie! I know how it ends. I am a hygienic monkey don't you know " One even uses disposable gloves when throwing poop | |||
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"Quarantine my arse... I know what I know.. Wakey Wakey ! Times are getting serious And what do you know? I know, there I was thinking thinking this thread pandemic was dying out and there's another outbreak
But surely if he knows something that will save me getting a mild cough, I have to be told
Mild if you are healthy.
I don't think we should be at panic stations but it is to be taken seriously.
Taken seriously certainly, overreacted to? No.
Masks being worn on the tube, staff in Canary wharf building sent home...?
Yes of course. Surely that's just sensible precautions.
What is going to the issue is people saying it's a "mild" cold.
People are dying so if we can take sensible action to reduce spread, why would we not?
Should we not just be following the guidelines issued by the government? Bin tissues, wash hands with soap and water / gel?
And self quarantine if we have been to affected areas.
I really don't see why someone wearing a mask on the tube impacts you or anyone else in anyway.
Not saying it impacts me or anyone else, just asking is it an overreaction to something that's a moderate threat according to the government.
If everyone starts wearing masks when they dont need to, will it lead to more panic?
How often do use the tube?
I have seen many people wearing masks on the tube over the years. I haven't noticed an increase.
When I'm in London...every day, best way to get around.
Im not there today so just quoting news reports, they've probably been out searching for people with masks on to help the circulation of their news.
Are you doing anything differently if you on the tube a lot?"Yes. I'm using hand jel and I don't normally. If it spreads more I will stop using it wherever possible. I'm in the at risk category, this is something I need to take seriously and for others to the same as it really could kill me. | |||
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"We will be under martial law .. Wake Up Citizens " I thought you were out | |||
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"We will be under martial law .. Wake Up Citizens " Why will we be under martial law? | |||
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"Bloody Hand Gell We are saved... Wakey Wakey.. this is serious " What exactly would you like us to do? | |||
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"We will be under martial law .. Wake Up Citizens Why will we be under martial law? " To stop the spread... | |||
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"I am out.. " But are you? Really? You keep making promises then breaking them. | |||
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"We will be under martial law .. Wake Up Citizens Why will we be under martial law? " And when we've binge watched Martial Law ... can we move on to CSI? | |||
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"5 people died today. On the UK roads. That's the UK average each and every day. Why do people keep quoting car accidents, gun violence, etc etc. Those other means of dying are still going to be out there. Now there's just one more. People don't shut down cities for car crashes, the don't quarantine ships and hotels, they don't shut down factories or effect economics. Bottom line is you don't have do die to be affected by this virus. " | |||
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"I am out.. But are you? Really? You keep making promises then breaking them. " You know the truth my friend but won't say it... Don't put popularity before the truth.. I am.out | |||
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"Only 2% of people who contract the virus die and most of them are the elderly with underlying health problems If they were to publish the amount of people who die from the flu every year they would call that a pandemic" That is exactly why everyone needs to help stop the spread to stop the vulnerable catching it. | |||
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"5 people died today. On the UK roads. That's the UK average each and every day. Why do people keep quoting car accidents, gun violence, etc etc. Those other means of dying are still going to be out there. Now there's just one more. People don't shut down cities for car crashes, the don't quarantine ships and hotels, they don't shut down factories or effect economics. Bottom line is you don't have do die to be affected by this virus. "To be fair the main focus is (wrongly) on the deaths in the mainstream media which is why people compare it. What is going under the radar is the side effects and other consequences it will have due to people being isolated from work etc. But that is barely getting a mention. Which is a huge part of the problem. | |||
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".......... Are you doing anything differently if you on the tube a lot? Yes. I'm using hand jel and I don't normally. If it spreads more I will stop using it wherever possible. I'm in the at risk category, this is something I need to take seriously and for others to the same as it really could kill me. " Good idea if you are in at risk category. What would it take to don a mask or stop using the tube or going out in public? My Daughter has asthma, my mum has copd (among other things). Trust me I too am taking it seriously, but I'm not panicking yet. | |||
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"We will be under martial law .. Wake Up Citizens Why will we be under martial law? To stop the spread..." So how will martial law achieve that? | |||
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"I am out.. But are you? Really? You keep making promises then breaking them. You know the truth my friend but won't say it... Don't put popularity before the truth.. I am.out " Do you know the truth? I've always thought you know more than you're letting on.... (Sorry people's but it's true!) | |||
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"I am out.. But are you? Really? You keep making promises then breaking them. You know the truth my friend but won't say it... Don't put popularity before the truth.. I am.out Do you know the truth? I've always thought you know more than you're letting on.... (Sorry people's but it's true!)" I miss the X-files. | |||
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"Quarantine my arse... I know what I know.. Wakey Wakey ! Times are getting serious " His arse is infected | |||
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".......... Are you doing anything differently if you on the tube a lot? Yes. I'm using hand jel and I don't normally. If it spreads more I will stop using it wherever possible. I'm in the at risk category, this is something I need to take seriously and for others to the same as it really could kill me. Good idea if you are in at risk category. What would it take to don a mask or stop using the tube or going out in public? My Daughter has asthma, my mum has copd (among other things). Trust me I too am taking it seriously, but I'm not panicking yet." I'm not panicking at all either. I'm annoyed at some people's very flippent attitude to it as people's lives are at risk. If people don't start taking sensible precautions then it will spread. Also overhyping it and scaremongering doesn't help. | |||
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"We will be under martial law .. Wake Up Citizens Why will we be under martial law? To stop the spread..." Tom, you are now starting to sound hysterical..... either you are a WUM or have a deep seated MH problem bordering on paranoia.... I suggest taking a break, have a lie down in a dark room with a cold flannel on your forehead... although as you have said many times, you may already "be out" | |||
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".......... Are you doing anything differently if you on the tube a lot? Yes. I'm using hand jel and I don't normally. If it spreads more I will stop using it wherever possible. I'm in the at risk category, this is something I need to take seriously and for others to the same as it really could kill me. Good idea if you are in at risk category. What would it take to don a mask or stop using the tube or going out in public? My Daughter has asthma, my mum has copd (among other things). Trust me I too am taking it seriously, but I'm not panicking yet. I'm not panicking at all either. I'm annoyed at some people's very flippent attitude to it as people's lives are at risk. If people don't start taking sensible precautions then it will spread. Also overhyping it and scaremongering doesn't help. " Quite right Lorna | |||
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"I am out.. But are you? Really? You keep making promises then breaking them. You know the truth my friend but won't say it... Don't put popularity before the truth.. I am.out Do you know the truth? I've always thought you know more than you're letting on.... (Sorry people's but it's true!) I miss the X-files." We had 2 cats called Scully and Mulder | |||
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"Only 2% of people who contract the virus die and most of them are the elderly with underlying health problems If they were to publish the amount of people who die from the flu every year they would call that a pandemic" It's published, it's less than 1% | |||
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".......... Are you doing anything differently if you on the tube a lot? Yes. I'm using hand jel and I don't normally. If it spreads more I will stop using it wherever possible. I'm in the at risk category, this is something I need to take seriously and for others to the same as it really could kill me. Good idea if you are in at risk category. What would it take to don a mask or stop using the tube or going out in public? My Daughter has asthma, my mum has copd (among other things). Trust me I too am taking it seriously, but I'm not panicking yet. I'm not panicking at all either. I'm annoyed at some people's very flippent attitude to it as people's lives are at risk. If people don't start taking sensible precautions then it will spread. Also overhyping it and scaremongering doesn't help. " People can be flippant and avoid the seriousness of it in a discussion like this, especially when you have likes of Tom's approach to. It is quite natural for people to take a stance of their own, in their own way against overactions like that. I am at risk, I know others who are at risk. Our attitudes in such a way make no difference to the outcome of what will happen. Our actions of such things will. My attitude (which is pretty obvious from my posts about it) has zero impact on my actions when it comes to the safety of myself or others. Which is what the vast majority of people with the same attitude as myself will be doing when the time arises. | |||
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".......... Are you doing anything differently if you on the tube a lot? Yes. I'm using hand jel and I don't normally. If it spreads more I will stop using it wherever possible. I'm in the at risk category, this is something I need to take seriously and for others to the same as it really could kill me. Good idea if you are in at risk category. What would it take to don a mask or stop using the tube or going out in public? My Daughter has asthma, my mum has copd (among other things). Trust me I too am taking it seriously, but I'm not panicking yet. I'm not panicking at all either. I'm annoyed at some people's very flippent attitude to it as people's lives are at risk. If people don't start taking sensible precautions then it will spread. Also overhyping it and scaremongering doesn't help. " I agree completely, and hope you stay safe and well. Taking things seriously is good, but the overreaction, and hype of some is doing my head in. | |||
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".......... Are you doing anything differently if you on the tube a lot? Yes. I'm using hand jel and I don't normally. If it spreads more I will stop using it wherever possible. I'm in the at risk category, this is something I need to take seriously and for others to the same as it really could kill me. Good idea if you are in at risk category. What would it take to don a mask or stop using the tube or going out in public? My Daughter has asthma, my mum has copd (among other things). Trust me I too am taking it seriously, but I'm not panicking yet. I'm not panicking at all either. I'm annoyed at some people's very flippent attitude to it as people's lives are at risk. If people don't start taking sensible precautions then it will spread. Also overhyping it and scaremongering doesn't help. People can be flippant and avoid the seriousness of it in a discussion like this, especially when you have likes of Tom's approach to. It is quite natural for people to take a stance of their own, in their own way against overactions like that. I am at risk, I know others who are at risk. Our attitudes in such a way make no difference to the outcome of what will happen. Our actions of such things will. My attitude (which is pretty obvious from my posts about it) has zero impact on my actions when it comes to the safety of myself or others. Which is what the vast majority of people with the same attitude as myself will be doing when the time arises. " I very much hope that's the case. | |||
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"The world health authority say 650,000 people world wide die from flu every year no mass hysteria about that " But there is a vaccination program. The numbers dying from the complications of flu is very high. This virus is like flu - there is no vaccine. I think people have every right to be concerned. | |||
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"The world health authority say 650,000 people world wide die from flu every year no mass hysteria about that But there is a vaccination program. The numbers dying from the complications of flu is very high. This virus is like flu - there is no vaccine. I think people have every right to be concerned. " Exactly Babs. X | |||
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"The world health authority say 650,000 people world wide die from flu every year no mass hysteria about that But there is a vaccination program. The numbers dying from the complications of flu is very high. This virus is like flu - there is no vaccine. I think people have every right to be concerned. Exactly Babs. X" Exactly my point for this thread. | |||
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"The world health authority say 650,000 people world wide die from flu every year no mass hysteria about that " I don't know where you are getting you fugures from but they differ greatly from anything I have seen anywhere. The "seasonal flu" is not even one strain of flu, it's a coctail of flu strains. None of these is 3 months old and there are vaccines for them. My figures for mortality rate of COVID-19 are 3 or 4%. CFR is 8%. From the CDC on seasonal flu uour lookimg at about 0.35% just short of 80 000 people per year. | |||
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"The world health authority say 650,000 people world wide die from flu every year no mass hysteria about that But there is a vaccination program. The numbers dying from the complications of flu is very high. This virus is like flu - there is no vaccine. I think people have every right to be concerned. Exactly Babs. X Exactly my point for this thread." And all the other threads..... | |||
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