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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

So cabinet minister Francis Maude said on Wednesday morning that "a bit of extra fuel in a jerrycan is a sensible precaution to take"

Sensible?

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/woman-burned-while-decanting-petrol-091318813.html

A woman has been badly burned after petrol ignited as she transferred it between containers in her kitchen.

Maude should have told the general public to stock up on postage stamps and pastys not fuel.

Think our government needs to come with a health warning

'Muppet Alert!! Muppet Alert!!'

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By *ucsparkMan  over a year ago

dudley

And to the lady in York with fourty percent burn that thought decanting petrol in a kitchen with gas cooker lite

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" So cabinet minister Francis Maude said on Wednesday morning that "a bit of extra fuel in a jerrycan is a sensible precaution to take"

Sensible?

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/woman-burned-while-decanting-petrol-091318813.html

A woman has been badly burned after petrol ignited as she transferred it between containers in her kitchen.

Maude should have told the general public to stock up on postage stamps and pastys not fuel.

Think our government needs to come with a health warning

'Muppet Alert!! Muppet Alert!!' "

That's not quite fair is it. The rest of the report does say that it is not known if the petrol stored was because of the looming fuel strike. You can't blame the govt for someone's stupidity in decanting petrol in the kitchen while the stove is lit.

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By *leasureDomeMan  over a year ago

all over the place


" So cabinet minister Francis Maude said on Wednesday morning that "a bit of extra fuel in a jerrycan is a sensible precaution to take"

Sensible?

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/woman-burned-while-decanting-petrol-091318813.html

A woman has been badly burned after petrol ignited as she transferred it between containers in her kitchen.

Maude should have told the general public to stock up on postage stamps and pastys not fuel.

Think our government needs to come with a health warning

'Muppet Alert!! Muppet Alert!!' "

yeah i got to agree what a stupid suggestion by Maud,it turns out the fuel was for her daughter who had run out .She probably didnt think that the gas stoves pilot lights are permanatly lit,but that is the point isnt it ,not many people are trained in keeping volatile liquids...he gave no advice on where to store it etc..I mean who gives adhoc advice to the country to store 10 litres of fuel during a published drought as well as starting panic buying

The man is an idiot..he was an idiot when he was my MP in the 80s and is still an idiot now.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I saw the title of this thread and my heart skipped a beat. I thought something awful had happened to Kermit

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By *ovedupstillCouple  over a year ago

mullinwire


" So cabinet minister Francis Maude said on Wednesday morning that "a bit of extra fuel in a jerrycan is a sensible precaution to take"

Sensible?

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/woman-burned-while-decanting-petrol-091318813.html

A woman has been badly burned after petrol ignited as she transferred it between containers in her kitchen.

Maude should have told the general public to stock up on postage stamps and pastys not fuel.

Think our government needs to come with a health warning

'Muppet Alert!! Muppet Alert!!'

yeah i got to agree what a stupid suggestion by Maud,it turns out the fuel was for her daughter who had run out .She probably didnt think that the gas stoves pilot lights are permanatly lit,but that is the point isnt it ,not many people are trained in keeping volatile liquids...he gave no advice on where to store it etc..I mean who gives adhoc advice to the country to store 10 litres of fuel during a published drought as well as starting panic buying

The man is an idiot..he was an idiot when he was my MP in the 80s and is still an idiot now. "

so thewoman must take no responsability for her own stupidity?

this is why labour gave us a nanny state.

people seem not to be able to think for themselves anymore.

the woman deserved everything she got, for being so stupid, end of, no matter what people tell us.

if someone said there is a piranha shortage and we all need to keep one, would you put it in your bath, or a pond, ffs!

she is my nomination for this years darwin awards.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I saw the title of this thread and my heart skipped a beat. I thought something awful had happened to Kermit "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


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Maude should have told the general public to stock up on postage stamps and pastys not fuel. "

Couldn't agree with you more! the current lot are worse than the last lot.They are looking after their rich mates and their rich mates are looking after them.

To quote robin williams 'politiciants are like nappies they should be changed often and for the same same reason'

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I agree, the woman who first followed what politician said and then decanted petrol in her kitchen sounds like a right muppet

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"yeah i got to agree what a stupid suggestion by Maud,it turns out the fuel was for her daughter who had run out .She probably didnt think that the gas stoves pilot lights are permanatly lit,but that is the point isnt it ,not many people are trained in keeping volatile liquids...he gave no advice on where to store it etc..I mean who gives adhoc advice to the country to store 10 litres of fuel during a published drought as well as starting panic buying

The man is an idiot..he was an idiot when he was my MP in the 80s and is still an idiot now. "

She was a colossal fool yet still you manage to twist it around so that it's the govt's fault. You should be a spin doctor for Ed the Red and his bunch of lefty cronies.

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By *ovedupstillCouple  over a year ago

mullinwire


"yeah i got to agree what a stupid suggestion by Maud,it turns out the fuel was for her daughter who had run out .She probably didnt think that the gas stoves pilot lights are permanatly lit,but that is the point isnt it ,not many people are trained in keeping volatile liquids...he gave no advice on where to store it etc..I mean who gives adhoc advice to the country to store 10 litres of fuel during a published drought as well as starting panic buying

The man is an idiot..he was an idiot when he was my MP in the 80s and is still an idiot now.

She was a colossal fool yet still you manage to twist it around so that it's the govt's fault. You should be a spin doctor for Ed the Red and his bunch of lefty cronies."

next, it will be thatchers fault! lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"She was a colossal fool yet still you manage to twist it around so that it's the govt's fault. You should be a spin doctor for Ed the Red and his bunch of lefty cronies.

next, it will be thatchers fault! lol"

Probably. The lovely old dear seems to cop th flak for almost everything these days. Still, she didn't lose Bradford to George Galloway did she hehehe .. Labour couldn't even hold onto to a safe-ish seat with a 5,000 majority in their traditional heartlands. I mean, George Galloway, c'mon, if ya can't beat that pillock you are unelectable.

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By *arnayguyMan  over a year ago

Durham Tees

Just imagine how many of those scuzzy, ambulance chasing lawyers will be contacting the lady who set herself alight now. 'Have you had an accident that was no fault of your own? Did the nasty politician make you barbecue yourself? Let Scum & Leeches sue the world on your behalf. No win, no fee.'

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By *rs and mr sanddancerCouple  over a year ago

Boldon


"I saw the title of this thread and my heart skipped a beat. I thought something awful had happened to Kermit "

No, it's ok, I checked and he's happy sitting on a lily pad, singing about rainbows, licking his pork flavoured fingers while babysitting his nephew halfway up the stairs.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just imagine how many of those scuzzy, ambulance chasing lawyers will be contacting the lady who set herself alight now. 'Have you had an accident that was no fault of your own? Did the nasty politician make you barbecue yourself? Let Scum & Leeches sue the world on your behalf. No win, no fee.'"

That had me chuckling. Quality!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" Did the nasty politician make you barbecue yourself?"

'Nasty' being the operative word

Calls for 'nasty' Francis Maude to quit

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2122500/Fuel-crisis-Francis-Maude-urged-quit-Diane-Hill-suffers-40-burns-decanting-petrol.html?ITO=socialnet-twitter-mailonline

good riddance!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I saw the title of this thread and my heart skipped a beat. I thought something awful had happened to Kermit

No, it's ok, I checked and he's happy sitting on a lily pad, singing about rainbows, licking his pork flavoured fingers while babysitting his nephew halfway up the stairs. "

Thank you so much for letting me know. I will sleep easy tonight

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By *leasureDomeMan  over a year ago

all over the place


"yeah i got to agree what a stupid suggestion by Maud,it turns out the fuel was for her daughter who had run out .She probably didnt think that the gas stoves pilot lights are permanatly lit,but that is the point isnt it ,not many people are trained in keeping volatile liquids...he gave no advice on where to store it etc..I mean who gives adhoc advice to the country to store 10 litres of fuel during a published drought as well as starting panic buying

The man is an idiot..he was an idiot when he was my MP in the 80s and is still an idiot now.

She was a colossal fool yet still you manage to twist it around so that it's the govt's fault. You should be a spin doctor for Ed the Red and his bunch of lefty cronies."

LMFAO listen to mr blue tinted glasses listen wishy it doesnt need spin from anyone to make the current lot look idiots. look at the virtually unanimous scream of disapproval on front pages today from the papers that backed him to become prime minister.

Editors clearly believe his government has mishandled matters ahead of the threatened strike by fuel tanker drivers, and they are not holding back.

"A fuel crisis made in Downing Street" (The Times); "Ministers blamed for fuel shambles as panic grows" (Daily Telegraph); Pandemonium at the pumps" (Daily Mail); "Time to stop the petrol panic" (Daily Express) and "Total panic" (The Sun).

The non-Conservative papers were scathing too: "Out-of-touch Tories: Everybody was kung fuel fighting" (Daily Mirror); "As petrol pumps run dry, the blame game begins: despair inside coalition over gaffe" (The Guardian); "Panic stations" (The Independent); "Britain is back in recession (i) and "This petrol panic doesn't add up" (Metro).

The ship is sinking and with Maud shooting holes in hull with his machine gun mouth ,no wonder ...trust me they dont need me to spin it ..lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" So cabinet minister Francis Maude said on Wednesday morning that "a bit of extra fuel in a jerrycan is a sensible precaution to take"

Sensible?

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/woman-burned-while-decanting-petrol-091318813.html yeh and the torys gave us the fud state

A woman has been badly burned after petrol ignited as she transferred it between containers in her kitchen.

Maude should have told the general public to stock up on postage stamps and pastys not fuel.

Think our government needs to come with a health warning

'Muppet Alert!! Muppet Alert!!'

yeah i got to agree what a stupid suggestion by Maud,it turns out the fuel was for her daughter who had run out .She probably didnt think that the gas stoves pilot lights are permanatly lit,but that is the point isnt it ,not many people are trained in keeping volatile liquids...he gave no advice on where to store it etc..I mean who gives adhoc advice to the country to store 10 litres of fuel during a published drought as well as starting panic buying

The man is an idiot..he was an idiot when he was my MP in the 80s and is still an idiot now.

so thewoman must take no responsability for her own stupidity?

this is why labour gave us a nanny state.

people seem not to be able to think for themselves anymore.

the woman deserved everything she got, for being so stupid, end of, no matter what people tell us.

if someone said there is a piranha shortage and we all need to keep one, would you put it in your bath, or a pond, ffs!

she is my nomination for this years darwin awards."

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah panic panic panic blame everyone ells but the tory coverment

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By *ovedupstillCouple  over a year ago

mullinwire


"aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah panic panic panic blame everyone ells but the tory coverment"

so, tell me, did Maud hold the container that was being poured, or the one that was poured into?

oh, thats right, she did it under her own valition.

realy, you ant blame the government for EVERYTHING everyone does, otherwise lets empty the prisons, because its not thier faults they robbed, murdered or looted, its the government.

you, my friend, have the reddest specs tht have ever been produced.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

He actually said to keep the can in the garage, not over a lit stove

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By *ovedupstillCouple  over a year ago

mullinwire


"He actually said to keep the can in the garage, not over a lit stove"

i think you will find, according to some, he actually said store a can of petrol in an open fire, with the spout block by a lit firework.

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By *londeCazWoman  over a year ago

Arse End of the Universe, Cumbria

Sorry, haven't read entire thread (unusual for me)

Yes, silly advice, but, as my owd mam sez "If someone telt ya to put yer head in t'oven n turn gas on - would ya??

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

unbelievable idocy. how had she lived that long and not known petrol is combustible?

almost as idiotic is the suggestion that it's maude's fault. Nothing wrong with keeping a jerrycan of fuel, it's up to you to not be so dimwitted as to not know what to do with it. I don't understand how a woman setting fire to herself cold ever be a politician's fault unless they were TOLD to set fire to themselves.

honestly, some people should not be allowed to breed.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

unbelievable idocy. how had she lived that long and not known petrol is combustible?

almost as idiotic is the suggestion that it's maude's fault. Nothing wrong with keeping a jerrycan of fuel, it's up to you to not be so dimwitted as to not know what to do with it. I don't understand how a woman setting fire to herself cold ever be a politician's fault unless they were TOLD to set fire to themselves.

honestly, some people should not be allowed to breed. including those on here who think that the govt should take all responsibility for people's actions and put warning signs everywhere and on everything.

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By *ovedupstillCouple  over a year ago

mullinwire


"unbelievable idocy. how had she lived that long and not known petrol is combustible?

almost as idiotic is the suggestion that it's maude's fault. Nothing wrong with keeping a jerrycan of fuel, it's up to you to not be so dimwitted as to not know what to do with it. I don't understand how a woman setting fire to herself cold ever be a politician's fault unless they were TOLD to set fire to themselves.

honestly, some people should not be allowed to breed. including those on here who think that the govt should take all responsibility for people's actions and put warning signs everywhere and on everything."

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" I don't understand how a woman setting fire to herself cold "

I don't understand how anyone can set fire to themselves COLD either

Don't think you should be abusing other people on here by calling them idiotic on here either. Let's keep it friendly

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By *phroditeWoman  over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


" I don't understand how a woman setting fire to herself cold

I don't understand how anyone can set fire to themselves COLD either

Don't think you should be abusing other people on here by calling them idiotic on here either. Let's keep it friendly "

I agree with you and I dont believe for one minute that the woman had the intention of setting fire to herself. And we all sometimes make silly careless mistakes for example when we get sidetracked or just "dont think". I have done silly things and have been just lucky one some occasions.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"the woman deserved everything she got, for being so stupid, end of, no matter what people tell us.

she is my nomination for this years darwin awards."

Its very simple...

The woman is foolish for keeping a very volatile, dangerous and all round nasty liquid near her house in the first place. She is even more foolish for then decanting it in the same room as a naked flame. In her defence she probably didn't know that the fumes from petrol are flammable.

However if Maude hadn't helped stoke the flames of this most artificial of crises by suggesting everyone fill up a jerry can of fuel she wouldn't of had it in the first place, nor would her daughter have been out of fuel (probably) if people wernt foolishly panicking. So yes some of the blame does lie at Francis Maude and the governments feet.

And to the person ive quoted above...

Have you ever suffered serious burns? I would suggest she got a fair bit more than she deserved there. If she lives she's likely to spend the rest of her life in some amount of pain and those burns are going to seriously hurt if they ever get too hot. I would suggest she's suffered for her mistakes, do you think Maude will suffer for his? Not likely.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

When Maude made the suggestion he assumed everyone has a stone outhouse on the other side of their 30 acre field

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By *phroditeWoman  over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"When Maude made the suggestion he assumed everyone has a stone outhouse on the other side of their 30 acre field"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Why do some people panic buy anyway.They should be issued with nappies first sight of a problem and they crap themselves.What ever happened to the back bone us brits used to have or are we all now in traction.

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By *ushroom7Man  over a year ago

Bradford


" I don't understand how a woman setting fire to herself cold

I don't understand how anyone can set fire to themselves COLD either

Don't think you should be abusing other people on here by calling them idiotic on here either. Let's keep it friendly "

A further sign of how low the country has descended under the nanny state. Since when has calling someone, anyone idiotic been abuse?

Get fucking real.

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By *phroditeWoman  over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"

Get fucking real. "

Mushy, you need to revise the word order here;-)

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By *ushroom7Man  over a year ago

Bradford


"the woman deserved everything she got, for being so stupid, end of, no matter what people tell us.

she is my nomination for this years darwin awards.

Its very simple...

The woman is foolish for keeping a very volatile, dangerous and all round nasty liquid near her house in the first place. She is even more foolish for then decanting it in the same room as a naked flame. In her defence she probably didn't know that the fumes from petrol are flammable.

However if Maude hadn't helped stoke the flames of this most artificial of crises by suggesting everyone fill up a jerry can of fuel she wouldn't of had it in the first place, nor would her daughter have been out of fuel (probably) if people wernt foolishly panicking. So yes some of the blame does lie at Francis Maude and the governments feet.

And to the person ive quoted above...

Have you ever suffered serious burns? I would suggest she got a fair bit more than she deserved there. If she lives she's likely to spend the rest of her life in some amount of pain and those burns are going to seriously hurt if they ever get too hot. I would suggest she's suffered for her mistakes, do you think Maude will suffer for his? Not likely."

If you are arguing causation, then surely the "crisis" is caused by the Union threatening to bring the country to it's knees? So Unite are now to blame for this poor misguided woman are they?

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By *ushroom7Man  over a year ago

Bradford


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Get fucking real.

Mushy, you need to revise the word order here;-)"

Whatever do you mean?

Oh, and add an "ly" to one of 'em?

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By *phroditeWoman  over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"

Get fucking real.

Mushy, you need to revise the word order here;-)

Whatever do you mean?

Oh, and add an "ly" to one of 'em? "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"the woman deserved everything she got, for being so stupid, end of, no matter what people tell us.

she is my nomination for this years darwin awards.

Its very simple...

The woman is foolish for keeping a very volatile, dangerous and all round nasty liquid near her house in the first place. She is even more foolish for then decanting it in the same room as a naked flame. In her defence she probably didn't know that the fumes from petrol are flammable.

However if Maude hadn't helped stoke the flames of this most artificial of crises by suggesting everyone fill up a jerry can of fuel she wouldn't of had it in the first place, nor would her daughter have been out of fuel (probably) if people wernt foolishly panicking. So yes some of the blame does lie at Francis Maude and the governments feet.

And to the person ive quoted above...

Have you ever suffered serious burns? I would suggest she got a fair bit more than she deserved there. If she lives she's likely to spend the rest of her life in some amount of pain and those burns are going to seriously hurt if they ever get too hot. I would suggest she's suffered for her mistakes, do you think Maude will suffer for his? Not likely.

If you are arguing causation, then surely the "crisis" is caused by the Union threatening to bring the country to it's knees? So Unite are now to blame for this poor misguided woman are they?"

No im not arguing causation im arguing that the government has helped create a mountain out of a mole hill and needs to take its share of the responsibility for this crisis, Unite didn't tell people to keep petrol at home, nor like the government did it pour it all over her and set fire to it. There s a very high chance that there wont even be a strike, the threat has been enough to get people sat back around a table and even if there is a strike people will still have 7 days notice, how much of the fuel people are cramming into fuel tanks will be left in 7 days time?

People listen to the government when they tell them to prepare themselves, even the ones that had the common sense to realise a strike was at the very closest 7 days away have to fill the tank up sometimes.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" I don't understand how a woman setting fire to herself cold

I don't understand how anyone can set fire to themselves COLD either

Don't think you should be abusing other people on here by calling them idiotic on here either. Let's keep it friendly

A further sign of how low the country has descended under the nanny state. Since when has calling someone, anyone idiotic been abuse?

Get fucking real. "

nanny state?? really??

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/mar/30/police-racism-black-man-abuse?CMP=twt_gu

idiotic :

adjective foolish, crazy, stupid, dumb (informal), daft (informal), insane, lunatic, senseless, foolhardy, inane, fatuous, loopy (informal), crackpot (informal), moronic, imbecile, unintelligent, asinine, imbecilic, braindead (informal), harebrained, dumb-ass (slang), halfwitted

glad to see you've found the spell check this time though , well done!

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By *ovedupstillCouple  over a year ago

mullinwire


" I don't understand how a woman setting fire to herself cold

I don't understand how anyone can set fire to themselves COLD either

Don't think you should be abusing other people on here by calling them idiotic on here either. Let's keep it friendly

A further sign of how low the country has descended under the nanny state. Since when has calling someone, anyone idiotic been abuse?

Get fucking real.

nanny state?? really??

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/mar/30/police-racism-black-man-abuse?CMP=twt_gu

idiotic :

adjective foolish, crazy, stupid, dumb (informal), daft (informal), insane, lunatic, senseless, foolhardy, inane, fatuous, loopy (informal), crackpot (informal), moronic, imbecile, unintelligent, asinine, imbecilic, braindead (informal), harebrained, dumb-ass (slang), halfwitted

glad to see you've found the spell check this time though , well done! "

what the hell has a story about police racosm got to do with an idiotic woman torching herself?

random?

and since when do we have self appointed spelling police?

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By *ushroom7Man  over a year ago

Bradford


" I don't understand how a woman setting fire to herself cold

I don't understand how anyone can set fire to themselves COLD either

Don't think you should be abusing other people on here by calling them idiotic on here either. Let's keep it friendly

A further sign of how low the country has descended under the nanny state. Since when has calling someone, anyone idiotic been abuse?

Get fucking real.

nanny state?? really??

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/mar/30/police-racism-black-man-abuse?CMP=twt_gu

idiotic :

adjective foolish, crazy, stupid, dumb (informal), daft (informal), insane, lunatic, senseless, foolhardy, inane, fatuous, loopy (informal), crackpot (informal), moronic, imbecile, unintelligent, asinine, imbecilic, braindead (informal), harebrained, dumb-ass (slang), halfwitted

glad to see you've found the spell check this time though , well done!

what the hell has a story about police racosm got to do with an idiotic woman torching herself?

random?

and since when do we have self appointed spelling police?"

Spelling police with a surplus of ?????'s and a shortage of Capitals no less. Hey ho!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" I don't understand how a woman setting fire to herself cold

I don't understand how anyone can set fire to themselves COLD either

Don't think you should be abusing other people on here by calling them idiotic on here either. Let's keep it friendly

A further sign of how low the country has descended under the nanny state. Since when has calling someone, anyone idiotic been abuse?

Get fucking real.

nanny state?? really??

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/mar/30/police-racism-black-man-abuse?CMP=twt_gu

idiotic :

adjective foolish, crazy, stupid, dumb (informal), daft (informal), insane, lunatic, senseless, foolhardy, inane, fatuous, loopy (informal), crackpot (informal), moronic, imbecile, unintelligent, asinine, imbecilic, braindead (informal), harebrained, dumb-ass (slang), halfwitted

glad to see you've found the spell check this time though , well done!

what the hell has a story about police racosm got to do with an idiotic woman torching herself?

random?

and since when do we have self appointed spelling police?"

"I love how the internet has improved peoples grammar far more than any English teacher has. If you write your instead of you're in an English class you get a red mark. Mess up on the Internet and may god have mercy on your soul." - Something that made me laugh the other day.

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By *ara JTV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East


" So cabinet minister Francis Maude said on Wednesday morning that "a bit of extra fuel in a jerrycan is a sensible precaution to take"

Sensible?

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/woman-burned-while-decanting-petrol-091318813.html

A woman has been badly burned after petrol ignited as she transferred it between containers in her kitchen.

Maude should have told the general public to stock up on postage stamps and pastys not fuel.

Think our government needs to come with a health warning

'Muppet Alert!! Muppet Alert!!'

yeah i got to agree what a stupid suggestion by Maud,it turns out the fuel was for her daughter who had run out .She probably didnt think that the gas stoves pilot lights are permanatly lit,but that is the point isnt it ,not many people are trained in keeping volatile liquids...he gave no advice on where to store it etc..I mean who gives adhoc advice to the country to store 10 litres of fuel during a published drought as well as starting panic buying

The man is an idiot..he was an idiot when he was my MP in the 80s and is still an idiot now.

so thewoman must take no responsability for her own stupidity?

this is why labour gave us a nanny state.

people seem not to be able to think for themselves anymore.

the woman deserved everything she got, for being so stupid, end of, no matter what people tell us.

if someone said there is a piranha shortage and we all need to keep one, would you put it in your bath, or a pond, ffs!

she is my nomination for this years darwin awards."

how can you say anyone deserves 40 per cent burns? that is so callous and uncaring.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" I don't understand how a woman setting fire to herself cold

I don't understand how anyone can set fire to themselves COLD either

Don't think you should be abusing other people on here by calling them idiotic on here either. Let's keep it friendly

A further sign of how low the country has descended under the nanny state. Since when has calling someone, anyone idiotic been abuse?

Get fucking real.

nanny state?? really??

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/mar/30/police-racism-black-man-abuse?CMP=twt_gu

idiotic :

adjective foolish, crazy, stupid, dumb (informal), daft (informal), insane, lunatic, senseless, foolhardy, inane, fatuous, loopy (informal), crackpot (informal), moronic, imbecile, unintelligent, asinine, imbecilic, braindead (informal), harebrained, dumb-ass (slang), halfwitted

glad to see you've found the spell check this time though , well done!

what the hell has a story about police racosm got to do with an idiotic woman torching herself?

random?

and since when do we have self appointed spelling police?"

what's racosm ?? think you just proved my point, helps if people spell correctly and it's not random it's for people who think we have a nanny state (change the record) if you still can't figure it out I would keep it to yourself to save the embarrassment

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

You've gotta love being lectured on misplaced vowels by someone from Wales

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By *phroditeWoman  over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

They keep saying on TV that if you have had a problem with your vowels for more than three weeks you should tell your GP....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"They keep saying on TV that if you have had a problem with your vowels for more than three weeks you should tell your GP...."

Sometimes i wish fab was a little more like facebook and had a "like" button

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By *ushroom7Man  over a year ago

Bradford


"They keep saying on TV that if you have had a problem with your vowels for more than three weeks you should tell your GP....

Sometimes i wish fab was a little more like facebook and had a "like" button "

Pm's work well, try one, you may be surprised. ps not to me, that would be idiotic.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

oh go Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch

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By *phroditeWoman  over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"They keep saying on TV that if you have had a problem with your vowels for more than three weeks you should tell your GP....

Sometimes i wish fab was a little more like facebook and had a "like" button

Pm's work well, try one, you may be surprised. ps not to me, that would be idiotic. "

Thought we had all disagreed on the quality of the PM's work

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By *phroditeWoman  over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"oh go Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch "
I lived there for a while

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" So cabinet minister Francis Maude said on Wednesday morning that "a bit of extra fuel in a jerrycan is a sensible precaution to take"

Sensible?

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/woman-burned-while-decanting-petrol-091318813.html

A woman has been badly burned after petrol ignited as she transferred it between containers in her kitchen.

Maude should have told the general public to stock up on postage stamps and pastys not fuel.

Think our government needs to come with a health warning

'Muppet Alert!! Muppet Alert!!' "

she was also using the cooker i believe? Not recommended!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"oh go Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch I lived there for a while"

Under the fountain or in the whirlpool?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"They keep saying on TV that if you have had a problem with your vowels for more than three weeks you should tell your GP....

Sometimes i wish fab was a little more like facebook and had a "like" button

Pm's work well, try one, you may be surprised. ps not to me, that would be idiotic. "

They do, just not when you want to show your general public appreciation for something. Oh don't worry im sure i can resist the overwhelming desire to do so.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"oh go Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch I lived there for a while

Under the fountain or in the whirlpool?"

I meant cave, not fountain! opps Welsh fail

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By *ovedupstillCouple  over a year ago

mullinwire


" I don't understand how a woman setting fire to herself cold

I don't understand how anyone can set fire to themselves COLD either

Don't think you should be abusing other people on here by calling them idiotic on here either. Let's keep it friendly

A further sign of how low the country has descended under the nanny state. Since when has calling someone, anyone idiotic been abuse?

Get fucking real.

nanny state?? really??

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/mar/30/police-racism-black-man-abuse?CMP=twt_gu

idiotic :

adjective foolish, crazy, stupid, dumb (informal), daft (informal), insane, lunatic, senseless, foolhardy, inane, fatuous, loopy (informal), crackpot (informal), moronic, imbecile, unintelligent, asinine, imbecilic, braindead (informal), harebrained, dumb-ass (slang), halfwitted

glad to see you've found the spell check this time though , well done!

what the hell has a story about police racosm got to do with an idiotic woman torching herself?

random?

and since when do we have self appointed spelling police?

what's racosm ?? think you just proved my point, helps if people spell correctly and it's not random it's for people who think we have a nanny state (change the record) if you still can't figure it out I would keep it to yourself to save the embarrassment "

a misplaced finger? if you had more of them in your life, you may have a profile with a woman rather than another bloke! oh how will i live my life from this moment forth? oh yeah, i will manage because i couldnt give a fuck.

a nanny state has NOTHING to do with police racism (or racosm) but more to do with the fact people seem unable to think for themselves, and rather than take responsibility (please tell me i spelt (or spelled) that correctly)for their own actions, blame a superfluous 3rd party, in this case, some random government minster.

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By *ovedupstillCouple  over a year ago

mullinwire


"oh go Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch "

dont feign intellegence when Wlesh for microwave is a fekkin popty ping, for christs sake!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" I don't understand how a woman setting fire to herself cold

I don't understand how anyone can set fire to themselves COLD either

Don't think you should be abusing other people on here by calling them idiotic on here either. Let's keep it friendly

A further sign of how low the country has descended under the nanny state. Since when has calling someone, anyone idiotic been abuse?

Get fucking real.

nanny state?? really??

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/mar/30/police-racism-black-man-abuse?CMP=twt_gu

idiotic :

adjective foolish, crazy, stupid, dumb (informal), daft (informal), insane, lunatic, senseless, foolhardy, inane, fatuous, loopy (informal), crackpot (informal), moronic, imbecile, unintelligent, asinine, imbecilic, braindead (informal), harebrained, dumb-ass (slang), halfwitted

glad to see you've found the spell check this time though , well done!

what the hell has a story about police racosm got to do with an idiotic woman torching herself?

random?

and since when do we have self appointed spelling police?

what's racosm ?? think you just proved my point, helps if people spell correctly and it's not random it's for people who think we have a nanny state (change the record) if you still can't figure it out I would keep it to yourself to save the embarrassment

a misplaced finger? if you had more of them in your life, you may have a profile with a woman rather than another bloke! oh how will i live my life from this moment forth? oh yeah, i will manage because i couldnt give a fuck.

a nanny state has NOTHING to do with police racism (or racosm) but more to do with the fact people seem unable to think for themselves, and rather than take responsibility (please tell me i spelt (or spelled) that correctly)for their own actions, blame a superfluous 3rd party, in this case, some random government minster."

Calm down boy you'll give yourself a coronary.

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By *waymanMan  over a year ago

newcastle


"You've gotta love being lectured on misplaced vowels by someone from Wales "

Really?

That's a curious love you have....

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By *waymanMan  over a year ago

newcastle


"oh go Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch

dont feign intellegence when Wlesh for microwave is a fekkin popty ping, for christs sake!"

What's the English for television?

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By *ovedupstillCouple  over a year ago

mullinwire


"oh go Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch

dont feign intellegence when Wlesh for microwave is a fekkin popty ping, for christs sake!

What's the English for television?"

magic speaky box

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By *ushroom7Man  over a year ago

Bradford


"oh go Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch

dont feign intellegence when Wlesh for microwave is a fekkin popty ping, for christs sake!

What's the English for television?"

A: frequently shite?

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By *waymanMan  over a year ago

newcastle


" So cabinet minister Francis Maude said on Wednesday morning that "a bit of extra fuel in a jerrycan is a sensible precaution to take"

Sensible?

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/woman-burned-while-decanting-petrol-091318813.html

A woman has been badly burned after petrol ignited as she transferred it between containers in her kitchen.

Maude should have told the general public to stock up on postage stamps and pastys not fuel.

Think our government needs to come with a health warning

'Muppet Alert!! Muppet Alert!!' she was also using the cooker i believe? Not recommended!"

Neither is keeping petrol in your garage - which takes us back to Francis MAude...

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By *ovedupstillCouple  over a year ago

mullinwire


" So cabinet minister Francis Maude said on Wednesday morning that "a bit of extra fuel in a jerrycan is a sensible precaution to take"

Sensible?

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/woman-burned-while-decanting-petrol-091318813.html

A woman has been badly burned after petrol ignited as she transferred it between containers in her kitchen.

Maude should have told the general public to stock up on postage stamps and pastys not fuel.

Think our government needs to come with a health warning

'Muppet Alert!! Muppet Alert!!' she was also using the cooker i believe? Not recommended!

Neither is keeping petrol in your garage - which takes us back to Francis MAude..."

of course it is. not stock piling the stuff, admittedly, but people the length and breadth of the nation have petrol in sheds and/or garages for various reasons.

it is illegal to store more than 10 litres, but otherwise it is fine to do so, in appropriate containers, out of direct heat (and not over a fcuking gas stove! lol)

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" So cabinet minister Francis Maude said on Wednesday morning that "a bit of extra fuel in a jerrycan is a sensible precaution to take"

Sensible?

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/woman-burned-while-decanting-petrol-091318813.html

A woman has been badly burned after petrol ignited as she transferred it between containers in her kitchen.

Maude should have told the general public to stock up on postage stamps and pastys not fuel.

Think our government needs to come with a health warning

'Muppet Alert!! Muppet Alert!!' "

ohh for crying out loud, get serious.

Some people will use ANYTHING they can to have a pop at the Government and this is an absolutely pathetic attempt.

Did the Government say store petrol in a perfectly good Jerry can then decant a load of it into a glass jug in your kitchen right next to the lit stove ??????

No they didn't so please... don't be silly.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" So cabinet minister Francis Maude said on Wednesday morning that "a bit of extra fuel in a jerrycan is a sensible precaution to take"

Sensible?

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/woman-burned-while-decanting-petrol-091318813.html

A woman has been badly burned after petrol ignited as she transferred it between containers in her kitchen.

Maude should have told the general public to stock up on postage stamps and pastys not fuel.

Think our government needs to come with a health warning

'Muppet Alert!! Muppet Alert!!' she was also using the cooker i believe? Not recommended!

Neither is keeping petrol in your garage - which takes us back to Francis MAude...

of course it is. not stock piling the stuff, admittedly, but people the length and breadth of the nation have petrol in sheds and/or garages for various reasons.

it is illegal to store more than 10 litres, but otherwise it is fine to do so, in appropriate containers, out of direct heat (and not over a fcuking gas stove! lol)"

It wasnt over a gas stove, she was decanting it in her kitchen not quite the same thing.

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By *ovedupstillCouple  over a year ago

mullinwire


" So cabinet minister Francis Maude said on Wednesday morning that "a bit of extra fuel in a jerrycan is a sensible precaution to take"

Sensible?

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/woman-burned-while-decanting-petrol-091318813.html

A woman has been badly burned after petrol ignited as she transferred it between containers in her kitchen.

Maude should have told the general public to stock up on postage stamps and pastys not fuel.

Think our government needs to come with a health warning

'Muppet Alert!! Muppet Alert!!' she was also using the cooker i believe? Not recommended!

Neither is keeping petrol in your garage - which takes us back to Francis MAude...

of course it is. not stock piling the stuff, admittedly, but people the length and breadth of the nation have petrol in sheds and/or garages for various reasons.

it is illegal to store more than 10 litres, but otherwise it is fine to do so, in appropriate containers, out of direct heat (and not over a fcuking gas stove! lol)

It wasnt over a gas stove, she was decanting it in her kitchen not quite the same thing."

appreciated, but again, hardly safe storage all the same.

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By *waymanMan  over a year ago

newcastle


" So cabinet minister Francis Maude said on Wednesday morning that "a bit of extra fuel in a jerrycan is a sensible precaution to take"

Sensible?

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/woman-burned-while-decanting-petrol-091318813.html

A woman has been badly burned after petrol ignited as she transferred it between containers in her kitchen.

Maude should have told the general public to stock up on postage stamps and pastys not fuel.

Think our government needs to come with a health warning

'Muppet Alert!! Muppet Alert!!' she was also using the cooker i believe? Not recommended!

Neither is keeping petrol in your garage - which takes us back to Francis MAude...

of course it is. not stock piling the stuff, admittedly, but people the length and breadth of the nation have petrol in sheds and/or garages for various reasons.

it is illegal to store more than 10 litres, but otherwise it is fine to do so, in appropriate containers, out of direct heat (and not over a fcuking gas stove! lol)"

Oh gosh, you swear so well...

Seriously though, in my experience, people don;t read all the advice before they do things. So if the minister says it's ok to stock up on petrol, Mrs Miggins won't go and read all the H&S advice on what that means in reality. She'll just assume it must be OK because the minister says so.

Giving advice and assuming people know all the caveats is often a fatal error in H&S practice. Far better to offend a few know it alls who'll do the FFS bit to their mates while rolling their eyes than to have to fill out the accident form for the woman who doesn't realise that petrol is different to, say, heating oil.

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By *waymanMan  over a year ago

newcastle


" So cabinet minister Francis Maude said on Wednesday morning that "a bit of extra fuel in a jerrycan is a sensible precaution to take"

Sensible?

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/woman-burned-while-decanting-petrol-091318813.html

A woman has been badly burned after petrol ignited as she transferred it between containers in her kitchen.

Maude should have told the general public to stock up on postage stamps and pastys not fuel.

Think our government needs to come with a health warning

'Muppet Alert!! Muppet Alert!!' she was also using the cooker i believe? Not recommended!

Neither is keeping petrol in your garage - which takes us back to Francis MAude...

of course it is. not stock piling the stuff, admittedly, but people the length and breadth of the nation have petrol in sheds and/or garages for various reasons.

it is illegal to store more than 10 litres, but otherwise it is fine to do so, in appropriate containers, out of direct heat (and not over a fcuking gas stove! lol)

It wasnt over a gas stove, she was decanting it in her kitchen not quite the same thing.

appreciated, but again, hardly safe storage all the same."

When did Francis Maude give advice on safe petrol storage as opposed to useless advice on what to do in the event of a strike that hasn't been called?

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By *ovedupstillCouple  over a year ago

mullinwire


" Oh gosh, you swear so well...

Seriously though, in my experience, people don;t read all the advice before they do things. So if the minister says it's ok to stock up on petrol, Mrs Miggins won't go and read all the H&S advice on what that means in reality. She'll just assume it must be OK because the minister says so.

Giving advice and assuming people know all the caveats is often a fatal error in H&S practice. Far better to offend a few know it alls who'll do the FFS bit to their mates while rolling their eyes than to have to fill out the accident form for the woman who doesn't realise that petrol is different to, say, heating oil."

but again, that fails to address why the government are to blame for an indiviuals stupidity.

do you honestly believe said woman was not aware of the highly flammable nature of petrol, even though its used for its combustable properties and nothign more?

do me a lemon.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" So cabinet minister Francis Maude said on Wednesday morning that "a bit of extra fuel in a jerrycan is a sensible precaution to take"

Sensible?

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/woman-burned-while-decanting-petrol-091318813.html

A woman has been badly burned after petrol ignited as she transferred it between containers in her kitchen.

Maude should have told the general public to stock up on postage stamps and pastys not fuel.

Think our government needs to come with a health warning

'Muppet Alert!! Muppet Alert!!' she was also using the cooker i believe? Not recommended!

Neither is keeping petrol in your garage - which takes us back to Francis MAude...

of course it is. not stock piling the stuff, admittedly, but people the length and breadth of the nation have petrol in sheds and/or garages for various reasons.

it is illegal to store more than 10 litres, but otherwise it is fine to do so, in appropriate containers, out of direct heat (and not over a fcuking gas stove! lol)

It wasnt over a gas stove, she was decanting it in her kitchen not quite the same thing.

appreciated, but again, hardly safe storage all the same."

No its not safe storage, but that's the point and why his advice was so stupid. Its not common practice to store petrol in peoples garages/sheds/homes anymore, fuel is normally readily available at a petrol station. Because of this most people have no concept of just quite how flammable petrol fumes are (not to mention all the other nasty things it can do to you) and so will make silly mistakes that have huge consequences.

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By *ovedupstillCouple  over a year ago

mullinwire


"

When did Francis Maude give advice on safe petrol storage as opposed to useless advice on what to do in the event of a strike that hasn't been called?"

once again, i say, they should have stayed quiet, yes, BUT, hardly a sackabe/hangable offence to expect the general public to have a modicum of common sense is it really?

I dont know you, but i'm almost certain you wouldnt need to attend an H&S lesson before using, say, a circular saw, and ensuring you walk away with the same amount of fingers you started with. so surely it is comprehendable that you treat everyone the same in the hope they also have a similar amount of sense

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By *ovedupstillCouple  over a year ago

mullinwire


" So cabinet minister Francis Maude said on Wednesday morning that "a bit of extra fuel in a jerrycan is a sensible precaution to take"

Sensible?

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/woman-burned-while-decanting-petrol-091318813.html

A woman has been badly burned after petrol ignited as she transferred it between containers in her kitchen.

Maude should have told the general public to stock up on postage stamps and pastys not fuel.

Think our government needs to come with a health warning

'Muppet Alert!! Muppet Alert!!' she was also using the cooker i believe? Not recommended!

Neither is keeping petrol in your garage - which takes us back to Francis MAude...

of course it is. not stock piling the stuff, admittedly, but people the length and breadth of the nation have petrol in sheds and/or garages for various reasons.

it is illegal to store more than 10 litres, but otherwise it is fine to do so, in appropriate containers, out of direct heat (and not over a fcuking gas stove! lol)

It wasnt over a gas stove, she was decanting it in her kitchen not quite the same thing.

appreciated, but again, hardly safe storage all the same.

No its not safe storage, but that's the point and why his advice was so stupid. Its not common practice to store petrol in peoples garages/sheds/homes anymore, fuel is normally readily available at a petrol station. Because of this most people have no concept of just quite how flammable petrol fumes are (not to mention all the other nasty things it can do to you) and so will make silly mistakes that have huge consequences."

sorry, you can price them up,but i just aint buying them oranges.

people shouldnt be touching anything they dont have at least a basic amount of knowledge about, end of.

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By *aucy3Couple  over a year ago

glasgow

it's unbelievable in this day and age.

that someone would feel the need to store petrol,anywhere near their house.

jeez petrol is a highly combustible,and volatile,liquid.

only an idiot would store it,outwith petrol stations,and refineries.

what would drive anyone to store it in any other situation.

did somebody say something hmmmm ????

sorry must rush,i've got a piranha to buy.

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By *ovedupstillCouple  over a year ago

mullinwire

i have a cn of petrol in the shed, and have had since last summer.

erm, im not on fire, havent blown up or died by sniffing it.

i must be the exception to the rule i guess.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" So cabinet minister Francis Maude said on Wednesday morning that "a bit of extra fuel in a jerrycan is a sensible precaution to take"

Sensible?

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/woman-burned-while-decanting-petrol-091318813.html

A woman has been badly burned after petrol ignited as she transferred it between containers in her kitchen.

Maude should have told the general public to stock up on postage stamps and pastys not fuel.

Think our government needs to come with a health warning

'Muppet Alert!! Muppet Alert!!' she was also using the cooker i believe? Not recommended!

Neither is keeping petrol in your garage - which takes us back to Francis MAude...

of course it is. not stock piling the stuff, admittedly, but people the length and breadth of the nation have petrol in sheds and/or garages for various reasons.

it is illegal to store more than 10 litres, but otherwise it is fine to do so, in appropriate containers, out of direct heat (and not over a fcuking gas stove! lol)

It wasnt over a gas stove, she was decanting it in her kitchen not quite the same thing.

appreciated, but again, hardly safe storage all the same.

No its not safe storage, but that's the point and why his advice was so stupid. Its not common practice to store petrol in peoples garages/sheds/homes anymore, fuel is normally readily available at a petrol station. Because of this most people have no concept of just quite how flammable petrol fumes are (not to mention all the other nasty things it can do to you) and so will make silly mistakes that have huge consequences.

sorry, you can price them up,but i just aint buying them oranges.

people shouldnt be touching anything they dont have at least a basic amount of knowledge about, end of."

Hey I agree with you on that, there isn't a hope in hell I'd let petrol through my front door let alone in the kitchen (plus it smells) but some people really don't have that appreciation. Not everyone is sensible, not everyone even appreciates there is a risk let alone understands it. That's what Maude should have taken into account before he gave that advice, even more so as there isn't even a strike planned. The collective government mouth ran before the brain fully engaged.

Just because some people understand the dangers it doesnt mean everyone will.

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple  over a year ago

hexham


"unbelievable idocy. how had she lived that long and not known petrol is combustible?

almost as idiotic is the suggestion that it's maude's fault. Nothing wrong with keeping a jerrycan of fuel, it's up to you to not be so dimwitted as to not know what to do with it. I don't understand how a woman setting fire to herself cold ever be a politician's fault unless they were TOLD to set fire to themselves.

honestly, some people should not be allowed to breed."

petrol isnt combustible...petrol fumes are

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By *els_BellsWoman  over a year ago

with the moon n stars somewhere in gtr manc

I'm going to come across as a dumb female now I know, but I wouldnt have known about the pilot light on a cooker or boiler. However, I wouldnt be transferring petrol into different canisters. And I do feel for that poor woman who is still critically ill, and personally calling her names is far from compassionate and quite nasty IMO.

I wouldnt dream of buying a Jerry Can nor store any petrol in or around my house. It was stupid what Maude advised but even though I'm not the Governments biggest fan, I still wouldn't have taken a blind bit of notice about stocking up, nor the advice of keeping my tank 3/4 full.

Oh and for the spelling/grammar police, if there are mistakes in this post, I couldn't give a rats ass

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By *aucy3Couple  over a year ago

glasgow


"i have a cn of petrol in the shed, and have had since last summer.

erm, im not on fire, havent blown up or died by sniffing it.

i must be the exception to the rule i guess. "

you'll be ok,you've got a piranha.

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By *umourCouple  over a year ago

Rushden


"Its not common practice to store petrol in peoples garages/sheds/homes anymore, fuel is normally readily available at a petrol station."

Really? Are you sure? So when I need half a pint of petrol for my motor mower or quarter of a pint for my chainsaw, I just nip to the garage and buy it? Is that what all my neighbours and the rest of the 60% with some kind of IC engined tools in the UK do?

If you really believe that no one stores petrol in sheds and garages anymore, you really need to leave the house once in a while!

Why must someone other than ourselves be responsible for our actions? I know that my insurance policy states I can store up to 10 litres of petrol in an appropriate container in an outbuilding! I took the trouble to find that out! Francis Maude did not say store great quantities, he said to store some fuel. It is up to each individual to make sure they comply with the law.

Try telling a policeman that your mate said it was OK to drive without MOT or insurance.. Who gets nicked? YOU!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Its not common practice to store petrol in peoples garages/sheds/homes anymore, fuel is normally readily available at a petrol station.

Really? Are you sure? So when I need half a pint of petrol for my motor mower or quarter of a pint for my chainsaw, I just nip to the garage and buy it? Is that what all my neighbours and the rest of the 60% with some kind of IC engined tools in the UK do?

If you really believe that no one stores petrol in sheds and garages anymore, you really need to leave the house once in a while!

Why must someone other than ourselves be responsible for our actions? I know that my insurance policy states I can store up to 10 litres of petrol in an appropriate container in an outbuilding! I took the trouble to find that out! Francis Maude did not say store great quantities, he said to store some fuel. It is up to each individual to make sure they comply with the law.

Try telling a policeman that your mate said it was OK to drive without MOT or insurance.. Who gets nicked? YOU! "

As much as i hate this phrase... Strawman argument there.

I think i know a single person who stores petrol at home so id be interested to know where you got that statistic from and they only buy it when there lawnmower is running low.

I do get out when im not upto my neck in coursework, the big wide world is lovely ta.

Oh and dont be stupid of course people are responsible for there actions, its why Francis Maude has a responsibility (note the use of the letter "a" in this sentence, in place of the word "the". It indicates that more than one person can be responsible for a situation) for telling people to go and fill up a jerry can when (according to you) 40% of people wouldnt normally need to.

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple  over a year ago

hexham

People defer to authority figures, if you do not believe that just look at the queses caused this week because a man in a suit said there would be a petrol shortage.

People were saying on here how worried they wee despite the fact no strike had been called and any strike would have to give 7 days notice, they panicked becaue someone they assumed knew more than them told them there was a reason to.

An authority figure said that storing petrol was ok, to many that will have covered H&S. The moment i heard his comment i did the worlds biggest face palm. He was irresponsible, although foot in mouth is the standard position for frankie boy.

Should the woman have done it, no, but even on this thread ppl have said petrol is flammable, when it isnt, petrol fumes are the risk,so people clearly do not understand the risk.

The laws on the storage of dangerous chemicals are complex, suggesting they be flouted for no reason was stupid...as stupid as decanting the petrol you had stored under government advice so your daughter could put it in her car.

The panic was created to detract from the budget, so on the immediate level...saying something stupid, and a wider level the government bears moral responsibility.

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By *umourCouple  over a year ago

Rushden


"As much as i hate this phrase... Strawman argument there.

I think i know a single person who stores petrol at home so id be interested to know where you got that statistic from and they only buy it when there lawnmower is running low.

I do get out when im not upto my neck in coursework, the big wide world is lovely ta.

Oh and dont be stupid of course people are responsible for there actions, its why Francis Maude has a responsibility (note the use of the letter "a" in this sentence, in place of the word "the". It indicates that more than one person can be responsible for a situation) for telling people to go and fill up a jerry can when (according to you) 40% of people wouldnt normally need to."

Glad to see the course on patronising is going well!

You seriously only know one person with any kind of garden tool that uses petrol? Perhaps in "studentsville" there are loads of flats and no gardens, but in the real world...

Just to enlighten you, I never said people only buy petrol when their supply for tools is running low! I made the point that people do store petrol in sheds, garages and the like for garden equipment!

Far from being stupid (always happens when someone sees an argument slipping away..) I may be daft sometimes, but never stupid. The 60% came from a course I attended concerning the Health & Safety aspects of garden equipment and builders tools. It was for the Hire company I was running at the time (about 8 years ago) and I see no reason for the numbers to have decreased in that time. If anything, I would expect an increase as people became better off.

An individual is responsible for his or her own actions! As someone said elsewhere.. If you were told by Francic Maude to jump of a cliff, would you?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"As much as i hate this phrase... Strawman argument there.

I think i know a single person who stores petrol at home so id be interested to know where you got that statistic from and they only buy it when there lawnmower is running low.

I do get out when im not upto my neck in coursework, the big wide world is lovely ta.

Oh and dont be stupid of course people are responsible for there actions, its why Francis Maude has a responsibility (note the use of the letter "a" in this sentence, in place of the word "the". It indicates that more than one person can be responsible for a situation) for telling people to go and fill up a jerry can when (according to you) 40% of people wouldnt normally need to.

Glad to see the course on patronising is going well!

You seriously only know one person with any kind of garden tool that uses petrol? Perhaps in "studentsville" there are loads of flats and no gardens, but in the real world...

Just to enlighten you, I never said people only buy petrol when their supply for tools is running low! I made the point that people do store petrol in sheds, garages and the like for garden equipment!

Far from being stupid (always happens when someone sees an argument slipping away..) I may be daft sometimes, but never stupid. The 60% came from a course I attended concerning the Health & Safety aspects of garden equipment and builders tools. It was for the Hire company I was running at the time (about 8 years ago) and I see no reason for the numbers to have decreased in that time. If anything, I would expect an increase as people became better off.

An individual is responsible for his or her own actions! As someone said elsewhere.. If you were told by Francic Maude to jump of a cliff, would you? "

Patronising is a speciality of mine of course none of your answers have been patronising.

Yep just the one in fact not even one now as that person died. everyone has electric tools. No not a student, been there and done that had a bigger garden than i do now.

I know you didn't say that, i said it about someone i know....

Fair enough i must obviously be acquainted only with people in the 40% that feel no need to keep petrol in cans in there shed.

That is even more stupid an argument that the police/crime one. People dont worry about the fact there death may be in short supply they do worry however when government ministers start telling them not to panic theres plenty of fuel but just incase those nasty nasty trade unionists do strike......

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"People defer to authority figures, if you do not believe that just look at the queses caused this week because a man in a suit said there would be a petrol shortage.

People were saying on here how worried they wee despite the fact no strike had been called and any strike would have to give 7 days notice, they panicked becaue someone they assumed knew more than them told them there was a reason to.

An authority figure said that storing petrol was ok, to many that will have covered H&S. The moment i heard his comment i did the worlds biggest face palm. He was irresponsible, although foot in mouth is the standard position for frankie boy.

Should the woman have done it, no, but even on this thread ppl have said petrol is flammable, when it isnt, petrol fumes are the risk,so people clearly do not understand the risk.

The laws on the storage of dangerous chemicals are complex, suggesting they be flouted for no reason was stupid...as stupid as decanting the petrol you had stored under government advice so your daughter could put it in her car.

The panic was created to detract from the budget, so on the immediate level...saying something stupid, and a wider level the government bears moral responsibility."

Spot on. That pretty much nails it.

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By *leasureDomeMan  over a year ago

all over the place


"...."honestly, some people should not be allowed to breed. including those on here who think that the govt should take all responsibility for people's actions and put warning signs everywhere and on everything."..."

Thats a bit strong isnt it, for people simply disagreeing with you ....chill out ,you dont want people thinking your an extremist do ya,its a forum you know ,people are actually allowed an opposing view to yours.

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By *ovedupstillCouple  over a year ago

mullinwire

may i just say, not too long ago, the government said we should all get back to work.

could i ask why there are still 3 million unemplyed if people do what the government tell them?

and, before anyone says anything, there IS work out there. i have been offered 4 jobs in the last 3 days.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"People defer to authority figures, if you do not believe that just look at the queses caused this week because a man in a suit said there would be a petrol shortage.

People were saying on here how worried they wee despite the fact no strike had been called and any strike would have to give 7 days notice, they panicked becaue someone they assumed knew more than them told them there was a reason to.

An authority figure said that storing petrol was ok, to many that will have covered H&S. The moment i heard his comment i did the worlds biggest face palm. He was irresponsible, although foot in mouth is the standard position for frankie boy.

Should the woman have done it, no, but even on this thread ppl have said petrol is flammable, when it isnt, petrol fumes are the risk,so people clearly do not understand the risk.

The laws on the storage of dangerous chemicals are complex, suggesting they be flouted for no reason was stupid...as stupid as decanting the petrol you had stored under government advice so your daughter could put it in her car.

The panic was created to detract from the budget, so on the immediate level...saying something stupid, and a wider level the government bears moral responsibility."

Pretty much what I would have said! Yes she was foolish to do what she did, and will pay for that for the rest of her life, BUT the worrying thing is that due to the advice of a person in authority there could be a number of people who are just as clueless about the correct way to store fuel with 10 litres of it sat in the cupboard under the stairs.

I don't know enough about storing fuel, so I would never do it (or would read up on it first) but unfortunately we do have so many people in this country with absolutely no common sense at all who blindly follow instruction instead of using their brain...such as the idiots who blame Sat Nav for them ending up in a river because they haven't got the sense to see that the advice/instructions they're being given are open to interpretation depending on the situation.

No he isn't directly responsible for her injuries, but he should have maybe suggested storing fuel 'in a safe manner', and maybe suggested somewhere to find advice on how to store it

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By *phroditeWoman  over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"

and, before anyone says anything, there IS work out there. i have been offered 4 jobs in the last 3 days."

Actually, there is not - and I happen to have several qualifications and have always found it easy to find work; if I were to look for it now (and from time to time it is wise to check one's value in the market of work) I would be lucky to find one. So my empathy goes out to all those who are trying to find work and are not able to.

Having said that, I dont wish to troll the thread lol... so lets get back to the Muppets?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham

Yet another case of blame everyone but the stupid person!! I heard the news story when said MP made the comment and it was immediately followed by someone saying that the fire brigade does not recommend storing petrol at home, so in fact the whole issue was dealt with within seconds

This is just another case of political point scoring ( remember the whole Jeremy clarkson/strikers debacle??). Focusing on one half of a story instead of the while picture.

And also, when exactly did we all stop being responsible for our own actions? Anyone with half a brain knows petrol is flammable, its why you are not allowed to smoke on a forecourt. Why would it stop being flammable when stored in your own home?

It was a tragic accident, no more no less, its just that it happened around some hyped up rubbish about a fuel strike that hasn't even been called yet

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By *adchickCouple  over a year ago

Cyprus


"yeah i got to agree what a stupid suggestion by Maud,it turns out the fuel was for her daughter who had run out .She probably didnt think that the gas stoves pilot lights are permanatly lit,but that is the point isnt it ,not many people are trained in keeping volatile liquids...he gave no advice on where to store it etc..I mean who gives adhoc advice to the country to store 10 litres of fuel during a published drought as well as starting panic buying

The man is an idiot..he was an idiot when he was my MP in the 80s and is still an idiot now.

She was a colossal fool yet still you manage to twist it around so that it's the govt's fault. You should be a spin doctor for Ed the Red and his bunch of lefty cronies.

LMFAO listen to mr blue tinted glasses listen wishy it doesnt need spin from anyone to make the current lot look idiots. look at the virtually unanimous scream of disapproval on front pages today from the papers that backed him to become prime minister.

Editors clearly believe his government has mishandled matters ahead of the threatened strike by fuel tanker drivers, and they are not holding back.

"A fuel crisis made in Downing Street" (The Times); "Ministers blamed for fuel shambles as panic grows" (Daily Telegraph); Pandemonium at the pumps" (Daily Mail); "Time to stop the petrol panic" (Daily Express) and "Total panic" (The Sun).

The non-Conservative papers were scathing too: "Out-of-touch Tories: Everybody was kung fuel fighting" (Daily Mirror); "As petrol pumps run dry, the blame game begins: despair inside coalition over gaffe" (The Guardian); "Panic stations" (The Independent); "Britain is back in recession (i) and "This petrol panic doesn't add up" (Metro).

The ship is sinking and with Maud shooting holes in hull with his machine gun mouth ,no wonder ...trust me they dont need me to spin it ..lol"

Whats that got to do with some stupid bint decanting petrol out of a Jerry can...... in her kitchen....... with cooking going on and the hob lit...... into a glass jar (illegal)...... to put in her daughters car....... who had run out of petrol....... and didn't have the money to put any more in.......?

It's not the governments fault that she was unbelievably stupid or that she couldn't just give the daughter £10 to put some petrol in herself.

Lets see which arsewipe lawyer trys to get that to court.

**And according to the papers, the woman had the fuel at home ANYWAY...... NOT bought because of the mass hysteria at the pumps..... but already had it.**

If we start forcing idiot politicians to resign because of far more stupid general public........ this country is in REAL trouble

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By *adchickCouple  over a year ago

Cyprus


"

No he isn't directly responsible for her injuries, but he should have maybe suggested storing fuel 'in a safe manner', and maybe suggested somewhere to find advice on how to store it"

Should we also tell people how to wipe their arses properly so that they don;'t get shit on their fingers? Or do we say that the government has a duty to explain it all so that they don't go and sue the makers of bog roll for not putting instructions on the fucking packet.

EVERYONE knows petrol is flammable and you NEVER NEVER NEVER do anything with it near a flame.

The stupid woman had her gas hob on.

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple  over a year ago

hexham


"Yet another case of blame everyone but the stupid person!! I heard the news story when said MP made the comment and it was immediately followed by someone saying that the fire brigade does not recommend storing petrol at home, so in fact the whole issue was dealt with within seconds

This is just another case of political point scoring ( remember the whole Jeremy clarkson/strikers debacle??). Focusing on one half of a story instead of the while picture.

And also, when exactly did we all stop being responsible for our own actions? Anyone with half a brain knows petrol is flammable, its why you are not allowed to smoke on a forecourt. Why would it stop being flammable when stored in your own home?

It was a tragic accident, no more no less, its just that it happened around some hyped up rubbish about a fuel strike that hasn't even been called yet "

petrol isnt flamable, it used to be common in garages to use open buckets of petrol to put out cigarettes...it is a way of getting the apprentices to shit themselves.

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By *phroditeWoman  over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

I was just thinking in general terms, that because the government advises to have 5 a day - it is still the individual's responsibility to eat a healthy diet. I dont think that things have to be polarised here; the politicians were either very short-sighted on this occasion or manipulative or plain dumb not thinking through the possible risks involved with a sweeping statement - however, this does not take away from individuals the need (and right) to care for their own health and safety. Having said all that, people do make mistakes, politicians and people who decanter fuel in the home... mistakes happen and this poor woman has paid a very high price I feel.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham


"Yet another case of blame everyone but the stupid person!! I heard the news story when said MP made the comment and it was immediately followed by someone saying that the fire brigade does not recommend storing petrol at home, so in fact the whole issiue was dealt with within seconds

This is just another case of political point scoring ( remember the whole Jeremy clarkson/strikers debacle??). Focusing on one half of a story instead of the while picture.

And also, when exactly did we all stop being responsible for our own actions? Anyone with half a brain knows petrol is flammable, its why you are not allowed to smoke on a forecourt. Why would it stop being flammable when stored in your own home?

It was a tragic accident, no more no less, its just that it happened around some hyped up rubbish about a fuel strike that hasn't even been called yet

petrol isnt flamable, it used to be common in garages to use open buckets of petrol to put out cigarettes...it is a way of getting the apprentices to shit themselves."

So how did she set on fire then

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By *ovedupstillCouple  over a year ago

mullinwire

so, to draw a conclusion from this thread. we are to deem everyone stupid until proven otherwise, yes?

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By *phroditeWoman  over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

Conlusions, if any to be drawn in my opinion, can only reflect that a lot of the thigns that we do and dont do are linked with other things and perhaps thinking black and white does not always help. In this specific case : Not all politicians are evil, thick or manipulative and not everybody would decant petrol in their kitchen. Pointing fingers in any one direction is not going to help the poor woman either.

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By *am sampsonMan  over a year ago

cwmbran


"Yet another case of blame everyone but the stupid person!! I heard the news story when said MP made the comment and it was immediately followed by someone saying that the fire brigade does not recommend storing petrol at home, so in fact the whole issiue was dealt with within seconds

This is just another case of political point scoring ( remember the whole Jeremy clarkson/strikers debacle??). Focusing on one half of a story instead of the while picture.

And also, when exactly did we all stop being responsible for our own actions? Anyone with half a brain knows petrol is flammable, its why you are not allowed to smoke on a forecourt. Why would it stop being flammable when stored in your own home?

It was a tragic accident, no more no less, its just that it happened around some hyped up rubbish about a fuel strike that hasn't even been called yet

petrol isnt flamable, it used to be common in garages to use open buckets of petrol to put out cigarettes...it is a way of getting the apprentices to shit themselves.

So how did she set on fire then "

Keep up read the thread

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

No he isn't directly responsible for her injuries, but he should have maybe suggested storing fuel 'in a safe manner', and maybe suggested somewhere to find advice on how to store it

Should we also tell people how to wipe their arses properly so that they don;'t get shit on their fingers? Or do we say that the government has a duty to explain it all so that they don't go and sue the makers of bog roll for not putting instructions on the fucking packet.

EVERYONE knows petrol is flammable and you NEVER NEVER NEVER do anything with it near a flame.

The stupid woman had her gas hob on."

Shitty fingers are slightly less dangerous than improper storage of fuel. I'm not disagreeing that she was stupid, but the worrying thing is she isn't the only person out there who will be storing fuel without a proper understanding of the correct way to do it. Common sense should tell you not to mess with it in the kitchen, but that isn't the only unsafe way to store it around the home. There are rules and regulations around how to store it properly for a reason...all I'm saying is he should have suggested where to find these rules to keep the idiots from injuring themselves and possibly others. Even Cornflakes tell you how to store them properly...surely it's not asking too much to suggest that people store fuel correctly to prevent these kind of incidents when advising people who don't normally store it to do so?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Right ok... this woman had her gas cooker on while she was decanting a highly flamable substance in her poorly ventilated kitchen.... i'm sorry but i don't think that was the fault of a minister saying that we should keep some fuel in a jerry can.... that was the fault of one womans blatant stupidity...

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By *ara JTV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

There are some really smug people posting to this thread.

The Government sends out a message to people to stock up on petrol at home.

This gets people worried there will be a shortage, so queues start forming at petrol stations.

This lady, her daughter's car runs out of petrol as result.

So, following the government's advice, she decides to keep some petrol at home.

The chain of events is pretty obvious. Predictable, too. And completely avoidable by any government with an ounce of competence.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I blame the education system.

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By *ucsparkMan  over a year ago

dudley


"I blame the education system.

"

Wounder if they be doing the same when teachers strike next. Goverment telling everyone to stock up on education lol.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

There are some really smug people posting to this thread.

The Government sends out a message to people to stock up on petrol at home.

This gets people worried there will be a shortage, so queues start forming at petrol stations.

This lady, her daughter's car runs out of petrol as result.

So, following the government's advice, she decides to keep some petrol at home.

The chain of events is pretty obvious. Predictable, too. And completely avoidable by any government with an ounce of competence.

"

The gov said to keep some in a jerry can.. not to keep some at home.. and in no way shape or form did they advise decanting it into another container... in your kitchen... with the gas oven on.... and her daughters car hadn't run out of fuel but she was worried it might... not the fault of the government.. no i don't think its right that they have incited panic.. but not their fault this woman was a complete imbecile

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By *ucsparkMan  over a year ago

dudley


"

There are some really smug people posting to this thread.

The Government sends out a message to people to stock up on petrol at home.

This gets people worried there will be a shortage, so queues start forming at petrol stations.

This lady, her daughter's car runs out of petrol as result.

So, following the government's advice, she decides to keep some petrol at home.

The chain of events is pretty obvious. Predictable, too. And completely avoidable by any government with an ounce of competence.

The gov said to keep some in a jerry can.. not to keep some at home.. and in no way shape or form did they advise decanting it into another container... in your kitchen... with the gas oven on.... and her daughters car hadn't run out of fuel but she was worried it might... not the fault of the government.. no i don't think its right that they have incited panic.. but not their fault this woman was a complete imbecile "

The quote I heard was keep one or two Jerry cans of fuel in garage. But you are right the lady in question had been hit with the silly stick

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I would love to know the woman's employment.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"may i just say, not too long ago, the government said we should all get back to work.

could i ask why there are still 3 million unemplyed if people do what the government tell them?

and, before anyone says anything, there IS work out there. i have been offered 4 jobs in the last 3 days."

*facepalm*

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

My conclusions from this... Ministers should think before they speak and people should think before they act.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Right ok... this woman had her gas cooker on while she was decanting a highly flamable substance in her poorly ventilated kitchen.... i'm sorry but i don't think that was the fault of a minister saying that we should keep some fuel in a jerry can.... that was the fault of one womans blatant stupidity..."

I thought it was the pilot light that was on, not that she was cooking tea! But that's part of the point...she didn't know what was safe when it came to having the fuel at home. She was foolish to be doing what she was doing, and has paid the price, but she will not be alone in not knowing how to store fuel safely. Suggesting people should store a Jerry Can should have been backed up by something as simple as 'in accordance with the rules on 'X' website'. Unfortunately not everyone in this world is blessed with common sense otherwise why would the bag of Dry Roasted Peanuts in my cupboard state very clearly on the 'Product Contains Nuts'...the vast majority if us would be expecting nuts in the bag, but the ones that think it may be filled with something else (who knows what!) are the ones that could potentially cause an innocent neighbour harm by having a couple of poorly stored cans of fuel in the same garage that they go into for a fag at night when the missus is in bed!

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By *teborahCouple  over a year ago

warrington


"it's unbelievable in this day and age.

that someone would feel the need to store petrol,anywhere near their house.

jeez petrol is a highly combustible,and volatile,liquid.

only an idiot would store it,outwith petrol stations,and refineries.

what would drive anyone to store it in any other situation.

did somebody say something hmmmm ????

sorry must rush,i've got a piranha to buy. "

Wise words which are all very true. BUT there are and believe me some very very stupid people who inhabit this country of ours and being advised by someone in authority they belive to know everything about everything (like a politician) telling you to stockpile fuel. then before long you get people setting fire to themselves in the kitchen because the politician man on the telly told us to so it must be safe! like I said before this sounds unthinkable to me and you but to some it makes perfect sense. That is why his statement to stockpile is very dangerous and not thought out and in my opinion classifies him as being a complete pea-narse

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"it's unbelievable in this day and age.

that someone would feel the need to store petrol,anywhere near their house.

jeez petrol is a highly combustible,and volatile,liquid.

only an idiot would store it,outwith petrol stations,and refineries.

what would drive anyone to store it in any other situation.

did somebody say something hmmmm ????

sorry must rush,i've got a piranha to buy.

Wise words which are all very true. BUT there are and believe me some very very stupid people who inhabit this country of ours and being advised by someone in authority they belive to know everything about everything (like a politician) telling you to stockpile fuel. then before long you get people setting fire to themselves in the kitchen because the politician man on the telly told us to so it must be safe! like I said before this sounds unthinkable to me and you but to some it makes perfect sense. That is why his statement to stockpile is very dangerous and not thought out and in my opinion classifies him as being a complete pea-narse "

Or maybe you just have an axe to grind with anyone or anything associated with the govt. Enough people have disagreed with you on this thread and think this stupid woman should have known better but like a dog with a bone you refuse to let it go and keep coming back to the man in the govt 'who said..'

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"it's unbelievable in this day and age.

that someone would feel the need to store petrol,anywhere near their house.

jeez petrol is a highly combustible,and volatile,liquid.

only an idiot would store it,outwith petrol stations,and refineries.

what would drive anyone to store it in any other situation.

did somebody say something hmmmm ????

sorry must rush,i've got a piranha to buy.

Wise words which are all very true. BUT there are and believe me some very very stupid people who inhabit this country of ours and being advised by someone in authority they belive to know everything about everything (like a politician) telling you to stockpile fuel. then before long you get people setting fire to themselves in the kitchen because the politician man on the telly told us to so it must be safe! like I said before this sounds unthinkable to me and you but to some it makes perfect sense. That is why his statement to stockpile is very dangerous and not thought out and in my opinion classifies him as being a complete pea-narse

Or maybe you just have an axe to grind with anyone or anything associated with the govt. Enough people have disagreed with you on this thread and think this stupid woman should have known better but like a dog with a bone you refuse to let it go and keep coming back to the man in the govt 'who said..' "

And plenty have agreed but you seem to have an axe to grind with anyone who thinks the ministers "advice" was foolish and I'll thought out and keep coming back to the fact the woman in question made one near fatal mistake

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By *ovedupstillCouple  over a year ago

mullinwire

thats just it, though, we dont know.

this woman could well have been a petrol can away from being toast her whole life.

we dont know her past, she could have been getting away with 'one little' accident' for years, to which it becomes a running joke through the family unit.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Right ok... this woman had her gas cooker on while she was decanting a highly flamable substance in her poorly ventilated kitchen.... i'm sorry but i don't think that was the fault of a minister saying that we should keep some fuel in a jerry can.... that was the fault of one womans blatant stupidity...

I thought it was the pilot light that was on, not that she was cooking tea! But that's part of the point...she didn't know what was safe when it came to having the fuel at home. She was foolish to be doing what she was doing, and has paid the price, but she will not be alone in not knowing how to store fuel safely. Suggesting people should store a Jerry Can should have been backed up by something as simple as 'in accordance with the rules on 'X' website'. Unfortunately not everyone in this world is blessed with common sense otherwise why would the bag of Dry Roasted Peanuts in my cupboard state very clearly on the 'Product Contains Nuts'...the vast majority if us would be expecting nuts in the bag, but the ones that think it may be filled with something else (who knows what!) are the ones that could potentially cause an innocent neighbour harm by having a couple of poorly stored cans of fuel in the same garage that they go into for a fag at night when the missus is in bed!"

even my 14 year old sister knows not to light a fire if you smell fuel or gas...

so surely a woman who is responsible enough to have her own house should know not to decant fuel where there is a possibility of fire.. be that from a gas hob, gas oven, gas boiler or whatever!

you can't go around blaming the government for every hot tea that gets spilled, every car accident that happens... and certainly not every misuse of fuel because people are stupid. its not their fault that one woman didn't take the proper precautions when playing with a highly flammable substance inside her house.

Like i said i don't think its right that the government have incited panic buying and hoarding, but also its not their fault that people do stupid things once they have panic bought!

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By *aucy3Couple  over a year ago

glasgow


"Right ok... this woman had her gas cooker on while she was decanting a highly flamable substance in her poorly ventilated kitchen.... i'm sorry but i don't think that was the fault of a minister saying that we should keep some fuel in a jerry can.... that was the fault of one womans blatant stupidity...

I thought it was the pilot light that was on, not that she was cooking tea! But that's part of the point...she didn't know what was safe when it came to having the fuel at home. She was foolish to be doing what she was doing, and has paid the price, but she will not be alone in not knowing how to store fuel safely. Suggesting people should store a Jerry Can should have been backed up by something as simple as 'in accordance with the rules on 'X' website'. Unfortunately not everyone in this world is blessed with common sense otherwise why would the bag of Dry Roasted Peanuts in my cupboard state very clearly on the 'Product Contains Nuts'...the vast majority if us would be expecting nuts in the bag, but the ones that think it may be filled with something else (who knows what!) are the ones that could potentially cause an innocent neighbour harm by having a couple of poorly stored cans of fuel in the same garage that they go into for a fag at night when the missus is in bed!

even my 14 year old sister knows not to light a fire if you smell fuel or gas...

so surely a woman who is responsible enough to have her own house should know not to decant fuel where there is a possibility of fire.. be that from a gas hob, gas oven, gas boiler or whatever!

you can't go around blaming the government for every hot tea that gets spilled, every car accident that happens... and certainly not every misuse of fuel because people are stupid. its not their fault that one woman didn't take the proper precautions when playing with a highly flammable substance inside her house.

Like i said i don't think its right that the government have incited panic buying and hoarding, but also its not their fault that people do stupid things once they have panic bought! "

are people intentionally missing the point here.

the woman would not have had petrol,in her house.subsequently she would not have been badly burnt.

had it not been for shit government advice,encouraging people to store petrol.

i'll be ok,i've got my piranha.

it's the piranhaless i'm worried about.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I store petrol at home (Shed) and 10's of thousands of people do. Do we get 10's of thousands of people setting themselves on fire???????

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham

Think its a bit pedantic pointing out its not the petrol that causes fires its the fumes, you would only have the fumes present if you have petrol in your house!!

Like i said before, if you watch the whole clip you would see that someone already countered the stupid statement by saying it was NOT recommended to keep petrol at home, why is everyone just focusing on the on section of the news item? Because they can point score against the government that's why, its pathetic.

Plus the government had already pit a statement out saying sorry for the things that were said and agreed it was NOT good advice, what more should they do?

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By *aucy3Couple  over a year ago

glasgow


"I store petrol at home (Shed) and 10's of thousands of people do. Do we get 10's of thousands of people setting themselves on fire???????"

is the sole reason you store petrol,because the government advised you to.

no i didn't think so,but it was the sole reason the woman had the petrol.

.

you look like a piranha kind of guy.

so you'll be quite safe.

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By *ovedupstillCouple  over a year ago

mullinwire


"I store petrol at home (Shed) and 10's of thousands of people do. Do we get 10's of thousands of people setting themselves on fire???????

is the sole reason you store petrol,because the government advised you to.

no i didn't think so,but it was the sole reason the woman had the petrol.

.

you look like a piranha kind of guy.

so you'll be quite safe. "

actually, ALL the news stories i have read have said it is undetermined as to whether the advice given was the reason she had petrol at the property.

why it was in the house was because she was giving some to her daughter, which begs the question, if your kid asked for fuel for the car, why would you not just give them the whoole can, not a glass jug full? how will that help?

and stop bringing the piranha's up, dont you know there's a war on!?

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By *ath-N-DelCouple  over a year ago

Glasgow area


"

That's not quite fair is it. The rest of the report does say that it is not known if the petrol stored was because of the looming fuel strike. You can't blame the govt for someone's stupidity in decanting petrol in the kitchen while the stove is lit. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

but come on who in thier right mind with empty petrol in a kitchen near a gas ring that was on

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By *aucy3Couple  over a year ago

glasgow


"I store petrol at home (Shed) and 10's of thousands of people do. Do we get 10's of thousands of people setting themselves on fire???????

is the sole reason you store petrol,because the government advised you to.

no i didn't think so,but it was the sole reason the woman had the petrol.

.

you look like a piranha kind of guy.

so you'll be quite safe.

actually, ALL the news stories i have read have said it is undetermined as to whether the advice given was the reason she had petrol at the property.

why it was in the house was because she was giving some to her daughter, which begs the question, if your kid asked for fuel for the car, why would you not just give them the whoole can, not a glass jug full? how will that help?

and stop bringing the piranha's up, dont you know there's a war on!?"

do you think the war will create a piranha shortage.

oh shit!!PANIC! PANIC!!

get your piranha's today,before it's to late.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

What I want to know is why the government ignored their own advice.

Cameron suggested motorists take the “sensible precaution” of topping up on petrol

Maude advised drivers to fill up any spare jerry cans with petrol

But the official position of the department of Energy was :

http://www.decc.gov.uk/en/content/cms/news/uniteballot/uniteballot.aspx

There is no need to queue at petrol forecourts.

There is no urgency to top up your tank, a strike will not happen over Easter.

Check travel sites and latest news before travelling.

Stick to speed limits as this helps conserve fuel.

So why did those two muppets give out idiotic advice to the general public? Diversion tactics from the badly received budget? short term boost in tax revenue?

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By *ovedupstillCouple  over a year ago

mullinwire


"What I want to know is why the government ignored their own advice.

Cameron suggested motorists take the “sensible precaution” of topping up on petrol

Maude advised drivers to fill up any spare jerry cans with petrol

But the official position of the department of Energy was :

http://www.decc.gov.uk/en/content/cms/news/uniteballot/uniteballot.aspx

There is no need to queue at petrol forecourts.

There is no urgency to top up your tank, a strike will not happen over Easter.

Check travel sites and latest news before travelling.

Stick to speed limits as this helps conserve fuel.

So why did those two muppets give out idiotic advice to the general public? Diversion tactics from the badly received budget? short term boost in tax revenue?

"

but surely it IS sense to ensure you have plenty of fuel in the car, int it?

whether there are looming strikes or not.

what ifs are long and diverse

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By *leasureDomeMan  over a year ago

all over the place


"it's unbelievable in this day and age.

that someone would feel the need to store petrol,anywhere near their house.

jeez petrol is a highly combustible,and volatile,liquid.

only an idiot would store it,outwith petrol stations,and refineries.

what would drive anyone to store it in any other situation.

did somebody say something hmmmm ????

sorry must rush,i've got a piranha to buy.

Wise words which are all very true. BUT there are and believe me some very very stupid people who inhabit this country of ours and being advised by someone in authority they belive to know everything about everything (like a politician) telling you to stockpile fuel. then before long you get people setting fire to themselves in the kitchen because the politician man on the telly told us to so it must be safe! like I said before this sounds unthinkable to me and you but to some it makes perfect sense. That is why his statement to stockpile is very dangerous and not thought out and in my opinion classifies him as being a complete pea-narse

Or maybe you just have an axe to grind with anyone or anything associated with the govt. Enough people have disagreed with you on this thread and think this stupid woman should have known better but like a dog with a bone you refuse to let it go and keep coming back to the man in the govt 'who said..' "

whats wrong with that ,i mean he isnt on his own is he ?

look at the press even the Tory press who support the coalition ...i dont get what your saying here ...do you mean ,he should not be disagreeing ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

....but it was the sole reason the woman had the petrol.

"

Do we know that?

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By *aucy3Couple  over a year ago

glasgow


"it's unbelievable in this day and age.

that someone would feel the need to store petrol,anywhere near their house.

jeez petrol is a highly combustible,and volatile,liquid.

only an idiot would store it,outwith petrol stations,and refineries.

what would drive anyone to store it in any other situation.

did somebody say something hmmmm ????

sorry must rush,i've got a piranha to buy.

Wise words which are all very true. BUT there are and believe me some very very stupid people who inhabit this country of ours and being advised by someone in authority they belive to know everything about everything (like a politician) telling you to stockpile fuel. then before long you get people setting fire to themselves in the kitchen because the politician man on the telly told us to so it must be safe! like I said before this sounds unthinkable to me and you but to some it makes perfect sense. That is why his statement to stockpile is very dangerous and not thought out and in my opinion classifies him as being a complete pea-narse

Or maybe you just have an axe to grind with anyone or anything associated with the govt. Enough people have disagreed with you on this thread and think this stupid woman should have known better but like a dog with a bone you refuse to let it go and keep coming back to the man in the govt 'who said..'

whats wrong with that ,i mean he isnt on his own is he ?

look at the press even the Tory press who support the coalition ...i dont get what your saying here ...do you mean ,he should not be disagreeing ?"

true pleasurdome.

besides who's going to grind an axe,with all that petrol lying arround.

ps has anyone heard anything about the impending piranha shortage.

i've got my fingers crossed the government dont issue any advice.

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By *ixson-BallsMan  over a year ago

Blackpool

well i thought.......stadtler and waldorf were the funniest

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham

Ok, have JUST read the article in the OP and i have to say what a pile pf tosh, herdly worth the URL its linked to!!

its all just hersay from a neighbour who thought they were havig a bbq to begin with!! am off to find a decent report about it!

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By *ovedupstillCouple  over a year ago

mullinwire


"Ok, have JUST read the article in the OP and i have to say what a pile pf tosh, herdly worth the URL its linked to!!

its all just hersay from a neighbour who thought they were havig a bbq to begin with!! am off to find a decent report about it!"

they all say the same, babb.

one even stopped reporting halfway through it to talk about the ACAS talks with the union. lol. i mean, talk about short attention span lol

the facts are this

woman had fuel

woman messed with fuel in kitchen

woman nearly killed herself

these are the ONLY facts that are undeniable and are not driven by heresay or opinion.

anything else is bollox

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

with regards to the maude situation the interesting thing about it all is this...

so maude the minister tells people to fill up jerry cans.... which was then condemned by everyone...and the fire brigade as dangerous.....

but maude never took back the advice.....

I am just awaiting, with respect to the poor lady in york, the first house fire that becomes significantly worse due to a couple of cans of "accelerants"......

to blame the minister directly for what happened in york is harsh i believe, but i do believe that the government indirectly played a part in it all because of the crisis they in effect blew out of control....

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By *aucy3Couple  over a year ago

glasgow


"Ok, have JUST read the article in the OP and i have to say what a pile pf tosh, herdly worth the URL its linked to!!

its all just hersay from a neighbour who thought they were havig a bbq to begin with!! am off to find a decent report about it!

they all say the same, babb.

one even stopped reporting halfway through it to talk about the ACAS talks with the union. lol. i mean, talk about short attention span lol

the facts are this

woman had fuel

woman messed with fuel in kitchen

woman nearly killed herself

these are the ONLY facts that are undeniable and are not driven by heresay or opinion.

anything else is bollox"

whoops you nearly forgot.

government advise people to store fuel in jerry cans.

it's better when we have all the facts,just as well i'm here.

footnote,

they're queuing arround the block,at my local piranha store.

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By *ovedupstillCouple  over a year ago

mullinwire


"Ok, have JUST read the article in the OP and i have to say what a pile pf tosh, herdly worth the URL its linked to!!

its all just hersay from a neighbour who thought they were havig a bbq to begin with!! am off to find a decent report about it!

they all say the same, babb.

one even stopped reporting halfway through it to talk about the ACAS talks with the union. lol. i mean, talk about short attention span lol

the facts are this

woman had fuel

woman messed with fuel in kitchen

woman nearly killed herself

these are the ONLY facts that are undeniable and are not driven by heresay or opinion.

anything else is bollox

whoops you nearly forgot.

government advise people to store fuel in jerry cans.

it's better when we have all the facts,just as well i'm here.

footnote,

they're queuing arround the block,at my local piranha store. "

that would be a petshop then, as they are the only places that can store them safely. lol

sorry, yes, government did say that, but it is not clear whether the petrol was on the property BECAUSE of the fact, or whether it was already there.

until that is cleared up, again, just conjecture

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"to blame the minister directly for what happened in york is harsh i believe, but i do believe that the government indirectly played a part in it all because of the crisis they in effect blew out of control...."

That depends on where you looking at it from. If you're in the govt and you wnat to discredit Unite/Labour you create a firestorm out of nothing, let it blow itself out and then when the real thing comes along and people don't have any fuel the govt can say, "Well, we told you to stock up!"

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham

we wil never know the truth on thos one now, no way is the lady going to admit to just storing the petrol in her kitchen and risk being known as a thicko, she has the perfect out now

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Right ok... this woman had her gas cooker on while she was decanting a highly flamable substance in her poorly ventilated kitchen.... i'm sorry but i don't think that was the fault of a minister saying that we should keep some fuel in a jerry can.... that was the fault of one womans blatant stupidity...

I thought it was the pilot light that was on, not that she was cooking tea! But that's part of the point...she didn't know what was safe when it came to having the fuel at home. She was foolish to be doing what she was doing, and has paid the price, but she will not be alone in not knowing how to store fuel safely. Suggesting people should store a Jerry Can should have been backed up by something as simple as 'in accordance with the rules on 'X' website'. Unfortunately not everyone in this world is blessed with common sense otherwise why would the bag of Dry Roasted Peanuts in my cupboard state very clearly on the 'Product Contains Nuts'...the vast majority if us would be expecting nuts in the bag, but the ones that think it may be filled with something else (who knows what!) are the ones that could potentially cause an innocent neighbour harm by having a couple of poorly stored cans of fuel in the same garage that they go into for a fag at night when the missus is in bed!

even my 14 year old sister knows not to light a fire if you smell fuel or gas...

so surely a woman who is responsible enough to have her own house should know not to decant fuel where there is a possibility of fire.. be that from a gas hob, gas oven, gas boiler or whatever!

you can't go around blaming the government for every hot tea that gets spilled, every car accident that happens... and certainly not every misuse of fuel because people are stupid. its not their fault that one woman didn't take the proper precautions when playing with a highly flammable substance inside her house.

Like i said i don't think its right that the government have incited panic buying and hoarding, but also its not their fault that people do stupid things once they have panic bought! "

I've already said that no, they weren't directly responsible (or 'to blame') for what happened, but the advice given should have contained some kind of safety warning. Lots of people do safely store fuel, and yes most people wouldn't be messing with it in the kitchen...but thanks to this advice chances are there are more people that will have Jerry Can's at home who perhaps really shouldn't be trusted with a pair of blunted scissors.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham


"I've already said that no, they weren't directly responsible (or 'to blame') for what happened, but the advice given should have contained some kind of safety warning. Lots of people do safely store fuel, and yes most people wouldn't be messing with it in the kitchen...but thanks to this advice chances are there are more people that will have Jerry Can's at home who perhaps really shouldn't be trusted with a pair of blunted scissors. "

but they did - they said it as soon as the MP said the jerrycan bit!!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I've already said that no, they weren't directly responsible (or 'to blame') for what happened, but the advice given should have contained some kind of safety warning. Lots of people do safely store fuel, and yes most people wouldn't be messing with it in the kitchen...but thanks to this advice chances are there are more people that will have Jerry Can's at home who perhaps really shouldn't be trusted with a pair of blunted scissors.

but they did - they said it as soon as the MP said the jerrycan bit!!!"

I've only seen the bits later stating it was a mistake, not anything within the same report giving safety advice...i must have missed that. If that's the case then fine...that's all I've said all along, because I must admit I for one wouldn't know all the safety rules involved and wouldn't be sure where to look. I could probably find them if I hunted the net, but realistically how many people do that!

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By *teborahCouple  over a year ago

warrington


"it's unbelievable in this day and age.

that someone would feel the need to store petrol,anywhere near their house.

jeez petrol is a highly combustible,and volatile,liquid.

only an idiot would store it,outwith petrol stations,and refineries.

what would drive anyone to store it in any other situation.

did somebody say something hmmmm ????

sorry must rush,i've got a piranha to buy.

Wise words which are all very true. BUT there are and believe me some very very stupid people who inhabit this country of ours and being advised by someone in authority they belive to know everything about everything (like a politician) telling you to stockpile fuel. then before long you get people setting fire to themselves in the kitchen because the politician man on the telly told us to so it must be safe! like I said before this sounds unthinkable to me and you but to some it makes perfect sense. That is why his statement to stockpile is very dangerous and not thought out and in my opinion classifies him as being a complete pea-narse

Or maybe you just have an axe to grind with anyone or anything associated with the govt. Enough people have disagreed with you on this thread and think this stupid woman should have known better but like a dog with a bone you refuse to let it go and keep coming back to the man in the govt 'who said..'

whats wrong with that ,i mean he isnt on his own is he ?

look at the press even the Tory press who support the coalition ...i dont get what your saying here ...do you mean ,he should not be disagreeing ?"

No the point that he is making is the coalition is perfect in every respect and you should not put them down in any way. before anyone makes any reference

about labour I think they are a shower of arses also, I'm generally on the side of common sense, something neither of them seem to show and telling people to stockpile petrol in my mind is not someone who is showing much........no sorry ANY common sense so if I have a neighbour who is following advice from a dick head which can put me and mine in danger then that is ok in your books then?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham


"it's unbelievable in this day and age.

that someone would feel the need to store petrol,anywhere near their house.

jeez petrol is a highly combustible,and volatile,liquid.

only an idiot would store it,outwith petrol stations,and refineries.

what would drive anyone to store it in any other situation.

did somebody say something hmmmm ????

sorry must rush,i've got a piranha to buy.

Wise words which are all very true. BUT there are and believe me some very very stupid people who inhabit this country of ours and being advised by someone in authority they belive to know everything about everything (like a politician) telling you to stockpile fuel. then before long you get people setting fire to themselves in the kitchen because the politician man on the telly told us to so it must be safe! like I said before this sounds unthinkable to me and you but to some it makes perfect sense. That is why his statement to stockpile is very dangerous and not thought out and in my opinion classifies him as being a complete pea-narse

Or maybe you just have an axe to grind with anyone or anything associated with the govt. Enough people have disagreed with you on this thread and think this stupid woman should have known better but like a dog with a bone you refuse to let it go and keep coming back to the man in the govt 'who said..'

whats wrong with that ,i mean he isnt on his own is he ?

look at the press even the Tory press who support the coalition ...i dont get what your saying here ...do you mean ,he should not be disagreeing ?

No the point that he is making is the coalition is perfect in every respect and you should not put them down in any way. before anyone makes any reference

about labour I think they are a shower of arses also, I'm generally on the side of common sense, something neither of them seem to show and telling people to stockpile petrol in my mind is not someone who is showing much........no sorry ANY common sense so if I have a neighbour who is following advice from a dick head which can put me and mine in danger then that is ok in your books then? "

but your neighbour shows no common snese by storing petrol by a gas cooker and decanting it while said cooker is lit which then ignites the fumes, spills on her clothing and sets her on fire

which lack of common sense are you moaning about now?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Surely the safest place to store petrol is in the fookin car. It has a very well protected tank designed for just the job.

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By *teborahCouple  over a year ago

warrington


"it's unbelievable in this day and age.

that someone would feel the need to store petrol,anywhere near their house.

jeez petrol is a highly combustible,and volatile,liquid.

only an idiot would store it,outwith petrol stations,and refineries.

what would drive anyone to store it in any other situation.

did somebody say something hmmmm ????

sorry must rush,i've got a piranha to buy.

Wise words which are all very true. BUT there are and believe me some very very stupid people who inhabit this country of ours and being advised by someone in authority they belive to know everything about everything (like a politician) telling you to stockpile fuel. then before long you get people setting fire to themselves in the kitchen because the politician man on the telly told us to so it must be safe! like I said before this sounds unthinkable to me and you but to some it makes perfect sense. That is why his statement to stockpile is very dangerous and not thought out and in my opinion classifies him as being a complete pea-narse

Or maybe you just have an axe to grind with anyone or anything associated with the govt. Enough people have disagreed with you on this thread and think this stupid woman should have known better but like a dog with a bone you refuse to let it go and keep coming back to the man in the govt 'who said..'

whats wrong with that ,i mean he isnt on his own is he ?

look at the press even the Tory press who support the coalition ...i dont get what your saying here ...do you mean ,he should not be disagreeing ?

No the point that he is making is the coalition is perfect in every respect and you should not put them down in any way. before anyone makes any reference

about labour I think they are a shower of arses also, I'm generally on the side of common sense, something neither of them seem to show and telling people to stockpile petrol in my mind is not someone who is showing much........no sorry ANY common sense so if I have a neighbour who is following advice from a dick head which can put me and mine in danger then that is ok in your books then?

but your neighbour shows no common snese by storing petrol by a gas cooker and decanting it while said cooker is lit which then ignites the fumes, spills on her clothing and sets her on fire

which lack of common sense are you moaning about now?"

Not moaning about anything just making a point as you do on forums

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

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"which lack of common sense are you moaning about now?

Not moaning about anything just making a point as you do on forums "

ok, which lack of common sense are you making a point about knowing both parties are equally lacking?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Diversion tactics...

Forget the burn lady for a moment. The government managed to gain at least £35 million in revenues in a 24hr period, by manipulating us, is that not seriously newsworthy??

Our government could hold us to ransom using this game on fuel,(in ways they are already).

I am sorry for this lady and her pain, but... we are talking about, she got burnt with petrol. Petrol - enough said.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If francis maude suggested that people have s spare lightbulb in their homes, shoikd he be responsible when dome idiot electrocutes themselves because they touched a vontact in the empty light socket? Of course not.

Everyone should know there are some things in life you treat with caution. Chainsaws, high voltage electricity, power tools, and flammable liquids. Anyone who doesn't treat these things with caution is an idiot and THEY should be blamed for the resulting accident, not anyone else. Don't know the risks? Either educate yourself or let someone else use them.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Incidentally, "stock up" and "stockpile" are 2 different things. Stock up means fill up the container you have (car fuel tank), stockpile means get more than youneed. People are jumping from one definition to the other and misquoting him

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