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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Most of the facts about it seems to be pointing towards the vikings as columbus never sat his foot there, whats your view? 
Sat on his foot where "
I meant in america, its belived he only landed on various caribbean islands that are now the bahamas as well as the island later called hispaniola. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I'm fairly sure that there were people living there when whoever discovered it arrived there....so did they discover or...or were they just visiting"
Yes. I thought that too as the natives must of lived there a long time before anyone else came there.
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I am reliably informed the Vikings discovered North America. They landed on the coast of Labrador and Newfoundland and colonised that coast. Coloumbus discovered central America and landed on the Caribbean islands. His maps were used by the Spanish conquistadors to conquer Mexico. |
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By *itty9899Man
over a year ago
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"Most of the facts about it seems to be pointing towards the vikings as columbus never sat his foot there, whats your view? "
The Vikings were travelers so chance are they did ..but Columbus just Rediscover it and put it on the map as social media wasn't around then for the Vikings to brag about ..  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Amerigo Vespucci was a navigator who made at least two voyages to the Americas, the first time in 1499. He was probably the first to realize that a new continent had been discobvered, not just the coast of Asia. Vespucci published two letters in 1503/1504 in which he described his voyages, and entitled Novus Mundus (thus coining the term "the New World"). The letters were a sensation, and were reprinted in every European language. Waldseemueller, the publisher of the "Introduction to Cosmography", was so impressed that he decided to name the new land America in Vespucci's honour.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I am reliably informed the Vikings discovered North America. They landed on the coast of Labrador and Newfoundland and colonised that coast. Coloumbus discovered central America and landed on the Caribbean islands. His maps were used by the Spanish conquistadors to conquer Mexico. "
so what about all the native americans that were already there do they not count or is it when white people discovered it
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By *ensualbicockMan
over a year ago
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"Was America at one time part of a larger continent maybe Pangea so could have been anybody..as a separate place I'd say the earliest the Chinese"
Spot on. Ancient man followed the northwestern coast into the Americas. |
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By *ensualbicockMan
over a year ago
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"Was America at one time part of a larger continent maybe Pangea so could have been anybody..as a separate place I'd say the earliest the Chinese
Spot on. Ancient man followed the northwestern coast into the Americas. "
From Asia |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Was America at one time part of a larger continent maybe Pangea so could have been anybody..as a separate place I'd say the earliest the Chinese
Spot on. Ancient man followed the northwestern coast into the Americas.
From Asia"
I don't mean to be argumentative, but can you discover America if its still part of Pangea? Are you not then just discovering more of Pangea? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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OP read the book on how humans spread across the globe from their origin.
Then you will know who really discovered America. Way before vikings and other suggestions. |
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By *ensualbicockMan
over a year ago
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"Was America at one time part of a larger continent maybe Pangea so could have been anybody..as a separate place I'd say the earliest the Chinese
Spot on. Ancient man followed the northwestern coast into the Americas.
From Asia
I don't mean to be argumentative, but can you discover America if its still part of Pangea? Are you not then just discovering more of Pangea? "
Was'nt Pangea long before man? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Was America at one time part of a larger continent maybe Pangea so could have been anybody..as a separate place I'd say the earliest the Chinese
Spot on. Ancient man followed the northwestern coast into the Americas.
From Asia
I don't mean to be argumentative, but can you discover America if its still part of Pangea? Are you not then just discovering more of Pangea?
Was'nt Pangea long before man?"
Can you elaborate a bit on that question please mate? |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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I suspect the people who discovered America were the first people to set foot there.
Which from memory may have been the pre-historic people who crossed from Siberia.
The idea that a European "discovered" America really just makes us look like we are so far up our own arse.
The Europeans are guilty of genocide, however.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I suspect the people who discovered America were the first people to set foot there.
Which from memory may have been the pre-historic people who crossed from Siberia.
The idea that a European "discovered" America really just makes us look like we are so far up our own arse.
The Europeans are guilty of genocide, however.
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I was looking at the op and the word America. There were no doubt men walking on what is now America while it was part of Pangea and again probably natives when the continents split and it was no longer part of Pangea. Can America be discovered if it isn't America yet? Lol
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By (user no longer on site)
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They've found some ruins near the coast which resemble stuff found in Ireland. Seems to suggest an irishman got their first. Saw a program about it and it seemed quite likely. |
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"I suspect the people who discovered America were the first people to set foot there.
Which from memory may have been the pre-historic people who crossed from Siberia.
The idea that a European "discovered" America really just makes us look like we are so far up our own arse.
The Europeans are guilty of genocide, however.
I was looking at the op and the word America. There were no doubt men walking on what is now America while it was part of Pangea and again probably natives when the continents split and it was no longer part of Pangea. Can America be discovered if it isn't America yet? Lol
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No human was walking on pangea when it was classed as a continent, It broke up millions of years ago |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I suspect the people who discovered America were the first people to set foot there.
Which from memory may have been the pre-historic people who crossed from Siberia.
The idea that a European "discovered" America really just makes us look like we are so far up our own arse.
The Europeans are guilty of genocide, however.
I was looking at the op and the word America. There were no doubt men walking on what is now America while it was part of Pangea and again probably natives when the continents split and it was no longer part of Pangea. Can America be discovered if it isn't America yet? Lol
No human was walking on pangea when it was classed as a continent, It broke up millions of years ago"
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No one really knows who discovered America and other continents first its all educated guess work, The reason Europeans get a lot of the credit is because they had a better recorded written language and is fairly recent history so the evidence is clearly there |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I would say that probably the nomadic tribes from current day China/Mongolia regions crossed the preexisting land bridge between now east Russia and Alaska. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"They've found some ruins near the coast which resemble stuff found in Ireland. Seems to suggest an irishman got their first. Saw a program about it and it seemed quite likely."
That could be true to a point. Because modern thinking is that Vikings came to britain and Ireland and took some females as wife's and a lot more females and men as slaves.And even some free men joined the Vikings as sailors and warriors.And they all went in the ships to Greenland . As DNA results have confirmed a lot of Irish DNA in greenland. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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As I understand it the earliest migration was over the "siberian" land bridge from Asia. ... As for the western world discovering it.. it's believed that Lief Ericsson son of Eric the Red was the first to land on what they named "Vinland"......... possibly  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Uncertainty about the name also.. Algonquin natives em-erica .the Mayans called their homeland Iqi Ameq'el.
Viking legend Amteric,after Eric the red.Gaulist name was Armorica meaning place by the sea .Then there's Amerigo Vespucci in 1497 |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Tribes from Siberia were probably the first there along with some Polynesians who were expert seafarers too. The Vikings got there in the late Dark Age and were probably wiped out by what by then were native people . |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Uncertainty about the name also.. Algonquin natives em-erica .the Mayans called their homeland Iqi Ameq'el.
Viking legend Amteric,after Eric the red.Gaulist name was Armorica meaning place by the sea .Then there's Amerigo Vespucci in 1497"
all possibilities except "Armorica"..that's in France possibly Brittany |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Humanity was born in Africa and we spread across the globe. The planet looked pretty much exactly the same then as it does now. Those who made it via the European route didn't find the Americas till the Vikings set out on their Golden Age of civilisation.
The humans who went Eastwards out of Africa made it as far as Indonesia/Philippines and just started Island hopping across the Pacific until they hit the twin continents. |
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"Humanity was born in Africa and we spread across the globe. The planet looked pretty much exactly the same then as it does now. Those who made it via the European route didn't find the Americas till the Vikings set out on their Golden Age of civilisation. "
..more than likely but there is a question now about the "clovis spear" from the little I know it's a style of flint arrowhead that's been found in Canada and unique as the only other place it's found is in Clovis France I believe ..?
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"Humanity was born in Africa and we spread across the globe. The planet looked pretty much exactly the same then as it does now. Those who made it via the European route didn't find the Americas till the Vikings set out on their Golden Age of civilisation. ..more than likely but there is a question now about the "clovis spear" from the little I know it's a style of flint arrowhead that's been found in Canada and unique as the only other place it's found is in Clovis France I believe ..?"
I dont know about that. Though I find it hard to believe that technology can't evolve separately in two different places.
May have to look that up now. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Humanity was born in Africa and we spread across the globe. The planet looked pretty much exactly the same then as it does now. Those who made it via the European route didn't find the Americas till the Vikings set out on their Golden Age of civilisation. ..more than likely but there is a question now about the "clovis spear" from the little I know it's a style of flint arrowhead that's been found in Canada and unique as the only other place it's found is in Clovis France I believe ..?
I dont know about that. Though I find it hard to believe that technology can't evolve separately in two different places.
May have to look that up now."
my knowledge of this is scant I just found it an interesting possibility and I too thought this style could of developed independent of outside influence a gifted flint napper may have well done so |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Humanity was born in Africa and we spread across the globe. The planet looked pretty much exactly the same then as it does now. Those who made it via the European route didn't find the Americas till the Vikings set out on their Golden Age of civilisation. ..more than likely but there is a question now about the "clovis spear" from the little I know it's a style of flint arrowhead that's been found in Canada and unique as the only other place it's found is in Clovis France I believe ..?
I dont know about that. Though I find it hard to believe that technology can't evolve separately in two different places.
May have to look that up now.my knowledge of this is scant I just found it an interesting possibility and I too thought this style could of developed independent of outside influence a gifted flint napper may have well done so "
I looked it up.. briefly. I think many people all over could have developed that shape of arrow/spear head Independantly. I'm no Historian, Anthropologist, or Archeologist though.. just a fanboy. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Humanity was born in Africa and we spread across the globe. The planet looked pretty much exactly the same then as it does now. Those who made it via the European route didn't find the Americas till the Vikings set out on their Golden Age of civilisation. ..more than likely but there is a question now about the "clovis spear" from the little I know it's a style of flint arrowhead that's been found in Canada and unique as the only other place it's found is in Clovis France I believe ..?
I dont know about that. Though I find it hard to believe that technology can't evolve separately in two different places.
May have to look that up now.my knowledge of this is scant I just found it an interesting possibility and I too thought this style could of developed independent of outside influence a gifted flint napper may have well done so
I looked it up.. briefly. I think many people all over could have developed that shape of arrow/spear head Independantly. I'm no Historian, Anthropologist, or Archeologist though.. just a fanboy."
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reminds me of the old advert ...! you got an ology .. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Humanity was born in Africa and we spread across the globe. The planet looked pretty much exactly the same then as it does now. Those who made it via the European route didn't find the Americas till the Vikings set out on their Golden Age of civilisation. ..more than likely but there is a question now about the "clovis spear" from the little I know it's a style of flint arrowhead that's been found in Canada and unique as the only other place it's found is in Clovis France I believe ..?
I dont know about that. Though I find it hard to believe that technology can't evolve separately in two different places.
May have to look that up now.my knowledge of this is scant I just found it an interesting possibility and I too thought this style could of developed independent of outside influence a gifted flint napper may have well done so
I looked it up.. briefly. I think many people all over could have developed that shape of arrow/spear head Independantly. I'm no Historian, Anthropologist, or Archeologist though.. just a fanboy."
I agree. Primitive artwork and stone tools that are very similar have been found all over the world with no "known" possible connection. I think humans evolved in a roughly similar way no matter where they were and had to overcome pretty much the same difficulties to survive. Hunting of animals, transportation of water etc and they would have used whatever they found for the task. It stands to reason that tools would be similar. |
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"Humanity was born in Africa and we spread across the globe. The planet looked pretty much exactly the same then as it does now. Those who made it via the European route didn't find the Americas till the Vikings set out on their Golden Age of civilisation. ..more than likely but there is a question now about the "clovis spear" from the little I know it's a style of flint arrowhead that's been found in Canada and unique as the only other place it's found is in Clovis France I believe ..?
I dont know about that. Though I find it hard to believe that technology can't evolve separately in two different places.
May have to look that up now.my knowledge of this is scant I just found it an interesting possibility and I too thought this style could of developed independent of outside influence a gifted flint napper may have well done so
I looked it up.. briefly. I think many people all over could have developed that shape of arrow/spear head Independantly. I'm no Historian, Anthropologist, or Archeologist though.. just a fanboy."
I'm no expert either and having now Google it a little it seems my memory is befuddled or discovery where bending facts |
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"Humanity was born in Africa and we spread across the globe. The planet looked pretty much exactly the same then as it does now. Those who made it via the European route didn't find the Americas till the Vikings set out on their Golden Age of civilisation. ..more than likely but there is a question now about the "clovis spear" from the little I know it's a style of flint arrowhead that's been found in Canada and unique as the only other place it's found is in Clovis France I believe ..?
I dont know about that. Though I find it hard to believe that technology can't evolve separately in two different places.
May have to look that up now.my knowledge of this is scant I just found it an interesting possibility and I too thought this style could of developed independent of outside influence a gifted flint napper may have well done so
I looked it up.. briefly. I think many people all over could have developed that shape of arrow/spear head Independantly. I'm no Historian, Anthropologist, or Archeologist though.. just a fanboy.I'm no expert either and having now Google it a little it seems my memory is befuddled or discovery where bending facts "
I do that too |
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"Humanity was born in Africa and we spread across the globe. The planet looked pretty much exactly the same then as it does now. Those who made it via the European route didn't find the Americas till the Vikings set out on their Golden Age of civilisation. ..more than likely but there is a question now about the "clovis spear" from the little I know it's a style of flint arrowhead that's been found in Canada and unique as the only other place it's found is in Clovis France I believe ..?
I dont know about that. Though I find it hard to believe that technology can't evolve separately in two different places.
May have to look that up now.my knowledge of this is scant I just found it an interesting possibility and I too thought this style could of developed independent of outside influence a gifted flint napper may have well done so
I looked it up.. briefly. I think many people all over could have developed that shape of arrow/spear head Independantly. I'm no Historian, Anthropologist, or Archeologist though.. just a fanboy.
I agree. Primitive artwork and stone tools that are very similar have been found all over the world with no "known" possible connection. I think humans evolved in a roughly similar way no matter where they were and had to overcome pretty much the same difficulties to survive. Hunting of animals, transportation of water etc and they would have used whatever they found for the task. It stands to reason that tools would be similar."
Also recordsand evidence is few and far between. We're lucky to find what survives the History and Natural World that came after it.
So we only ever see part of a picture of each ancient culture. |
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By *ildbillkidMan
over a year ago
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"Humanity was born in Africa and we spread across the globe. The planet looked pretty much exactly the same then as it does now. Those who made it via the European route didn't find the Americas till the Vikings set out on their Golden Age of civilisation. ..more than likely but there is a question now about the "clovis spear" from the little I know it's a style of flint arrowhead that's been found in Canada and unique as the only other place it's found is in Clovis France I believe ..?"
clovis points in new mexico too
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"It was the urapahoh Indians their sacred burial grounds have been desecrated by the white settlers arrived in 1607 in Jamestown massachusetts"
I call bullshit |
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"It was the urapahoh Indians their sacred burial grounds have been desecrated by the white settlers arrived in 1607 in Jamestown massachusetts
I call bullshit"
lol its a farct the first white settlers were 1607 in Jamestown massachusetts |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Anyone else hear the one about the NATIVE AMERICAN congressman that was threatened with having his immigration status checked by the trump administration? |
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By *G29Man
over a year ago
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First and foremost the vikings Erik the red & his son Leif (Icelandic), in addition to Columbus (Italian) are all foreigners. Those native to the land are the ones who truly discovered america, and the Maya period (1800 BC - AD 250) was long before the vikings (793–1066 AD) so they would have a claim also. |
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"Humanity was born in Africa and we spread across the globe. The planet looked pretty much exactly the same then as it does now. Those who made it via the European route didn't find the Americas till the Vikings set out on their Golden Age of civilisation.
The humans who went Eastwards out of Africa made it as far as Indonesia/Philippines and just started Island hopping across the Pacific until they hit the twin continents. "
Well actually its thought they went down through Russia.
However most of that is in question, even us coming out of Africa is in question. We were supposed to have evolved in east africa 200,000 years ago, then left 60,000 years ago. Then they find modern human remains in greece 210,000 years old, and remains in north west africa 300,000 years old.
They say another humanoid remains in south africa of 2 million years old proves we came from there, but there are 7 million year old remains of humanoids in greece, coupled with the 210,000 year old modern human remains in greece.
Well. It throws the whole thing firmly into the "Opinion" territory.
Saying that, Africans are pure humans and pretty much everyone else on the planet is not. |
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Evidently if man was already in America prior to 1492 then it had been discovered per say, most evidence suggests via siberia.
So the question being asked should be who were the first Europeans sailing west to have discovered America..
There is evidence that confirms the vikings certainly landed in newfoundland..
Go down to Co kerry in Ireland and you'll find that St Brendan sailed across in the 6th century..
Sometimes there is no smoke without fire, prior to 1492 columbus is said to have visited Galway where it is said fishermen were aware of land to the West... Possibly the gulf stream bringing in floating matter that may have washed up on Irish coast...
We here in Wales have a claim in respect of one of the first ever recorded return voyages, that of Prince Madog who is said to have sailed in the 12th century following a dispute with his father over his inheritance, sailed and returned having found land a number of weeks sailing to the West of Ireland. His sailings are recorded, he loaded up with fresh supplies and followers and sailed not to be heard of again... When north America was being colonised and and the inward push of migration from the Eastern seaboard started from the 17th century rumours filtered back of a unique native American tribe known as the mandans who were said to have unusual physical traits for natives, blue eyes fair hair and facial hair for men (not that the women had facial hair). They became known as the Welsh Indians.....
Now for those of you who raising your eyebrows in disbelief and uttering words such as poppycock or possibly words stronger..... There is an organisation in the states known as "the daughters of the revolution" which is a very prestigious group..... They unveiled a plaque on a wall in the harbour at mobile alabama cemmorating that in their eyes Prince Madog of Wales was the first European to set foot on American soil..... |
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"Evidently if man was already in America prior to 1492 then it had been discovered per say, most evidence suggests via siberia.
So the question being asked should be who were the first Europeans sailing west to have discovered America..
There is evidence that confirms the vikings certainly landed in newfoundland..
Go down to Co kerry in Ireland and you'll find that St Brendan sailed across in the 6th century..
Sometimes there is no smoke without fire, prior to 1492 columbus is said to have visited Galway where it is said fishermen were aware of land to the West... Possibly the gulf stream bringing in floating matter that may have washed up on Irish coast...
We here in Wales have a claim in respect of one of the first ever recorded return voyages, that of Prince Madog who is said to have sailed in the 12th century following a dispute with his father over his inheritance, sailed and returned having found land a number of weeks sailing to the West of Ireland. His sailings are recorded, he loaded up with fresh supplies and followers and sailed not to be heard of again... When north America was being colonised and and the inward push of migration from the Eastern seaboard started from the 17th century rumours filtered back of a unique native American tribe known as the mandans who were said to have unusual physical traits for natives, blue eyes fair hair and facial hair for men (not that the women had facial hair). They became known as the Welsh Indians.....
Now for those of you who raising your eyebrows in disbelief and uttering words such as poppycock or possibly words stronger..... There is an organisation in the states known as "the daughters of the revolution" which is a very prestigious group..... They unveiled a plaque on a wall in the harbour at mobile alabama cemmorating that in their eyes Prince Madog of Wales was the first European to set foot on American soil..... "
Tish AND poppycock!(only joking) |
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"Dave darn the pub told me that he discovered it; It must be true as Dave don’t lie.
Dave also bedded Wonder Woman and once beat Donald Trump in an arm wrestling contest."
But Dave also said dogs can't look up ! |
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Why bother your arses considering the question?
You have no exact truths or proofs. You have only 'a' history that was written down and shared. This writing will have been pre-ceded by something that WASN'T written down and shared. It will be re-written again , in time. So it doesn't fucking matter. |
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"Evidently if man was already in America prior to 1492 then it had been discovered per say, most evidence suggests via siberia.
So the question being asked should be who were the first Europeans sailing west to have discovered America..
There is evidence that confirms the vikings certainly landed in newfoundland..
Go down to Co kerry in Ireland and you'll find that St Brendan sailed across in the 6th century..
Sometimes there is no smoke without fire, prior to 1492 columbus is said to have visited Galway where it is said fishermen were aware of land to the West... Possibly the gulf stream bringing in floating matter that may have washed up on Irish coast...
We here in Wales have a claim in respect of one of the first ever recorded return voyages, that of Prince Madog who is said to have sailed in the 12th century following a dispute with his father over his inheritance, sailed and returned having found land a number of weeks sailing to the West of Ireland. His sailings are recorded, he loaded up with fresh supplies and followers and sailed not to be heard of again... When north America was being colonised and and the inward push of migration from the Eastern seaboard started from the 17th century rumours filtered back of a unique native American tribe known as the mandans who were said to have unusual physical traits for natives, blue eyes fair hair and facial hair for men (not that the women had facial hair). They became known as the Welsh Indians.....
Now for those of you who raising your eyebrows in disbelief and uttering words such as poppycock or possibly words stronger..... There is an organisation in the states known as "the daughters of the revolution" which is a very prestigious group..... They unveiled a plaque on a wall in the harbour at mobile alabama cemmorating that in their eyes Prince Madog of Wales was the first European to set foot on American soil..... "
' in their eyes' |
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"Why bother your arses considering the question?
You have no exact truths or proofs. You have only 'a' history that was written down and shared. This writing will have been pre-ceded by something that WASN'T written down and shared. It will be re-written again , in time. So it doesn't fucking matter. "
just like the Bible, amen |
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"I am reliably informed the Vikings discovered North America. They landed on the coast of Labrador and Newfoundland and colonised that coast. Coloumbus discovered central America and landed on the Caribbean islands. His maps were used by the Spanish conquistadors to conquer Mexico. so what about all the native americans that were already there do they not count or is it when white people discovered it"
Doesn't count.
If they're not white they should go back where they came from. |
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ONE: Who discovered America ?
OTHER ONE: Us!
ONE: Fuck Heaven! I thought it was the Venutians.
OTHER ONE: Check your circuits. You're rusty.
ONE: The Venutian that sourced America now lives in the Virgo cluster... hahahahahah
OTHER ONE: Ahahahahahahaha ha ha .....ha.
ONE: After he found America they gave him a Cock Pleaser from the Shapely Concentration.
OTHER ONE: You mean Shapely Cluster
ONE: No. It's concentration.
OTHER ONE: I'm sure it's Cluster.
ONE: You're gettin on my corona borealis.
OTHER ONE: Unplug yourself and have a wank. You fk'n Virgo
ONE: Fornax !! We all know it was Brian Cox....
OTHER ONE: Cox...... snigger .... |
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"Why bother your arses considering the question?
You have no exact truths or proofs. You have only 'a' history that was written down and shared. This writing will have been pre-ceded by something that WASN'T written down and shared. It will be re-written again , in time. So it doesn't fucking matter. "
a stone axe or tool isn't something that is written down it's something that's found that we can evaluate! |
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"Most of the facts about it seems to be pointing towards the vikings as columbus never sat his foot there, whats your view? "
I can’t see America from my house, what’s your view like ? |
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"Most of the facts about it seems to be pointing towards the vikings as columbus never sat his foot there, whats your view?
I can’t see America from my house, what’s your view like ? "
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"Why bother your arses considering the question?
You have no exact truths or proofs. You have only 'a' history that was written down and shared. This writing will have been pre-ceded by something that WASN'T written down and shared. It will be re-written again , in time. So it doesn't fucking matter.
a stone axe or tool isn't something that is written down it's something that's found that we can evaluate!"
Doesn't really bare any relation to what I said. |
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"Why bother your arses considering the question?
You have no exact truths or proofs. You have only 'a' history that was written down and shared. This writing will have been pre-ceded by something that WASN'T written down and shared. It will be re-written again , in time. So it doesn't fucking matter.
a stone axe or tool isn't something that is written down it's something that's found that we can evaluate!
Doesn't really bare any relation to what I said. "
then you don't understand archaeology |
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"Why bother your arses considering the question?
You have no exact truths or proofs. You have only 'a' history that was written down and shared. This writing will have been pre-ceded by something that WASN'T written down and shared. It will be re-written again , in time. So it doesn't fucking matter. "
Because of the laws of Entropy, nothing matters, but that shouldn’t stop people discussing it. |
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"Why bother your arses considering the question?
You have no exact truths or proofs. You have only 'a' history that was written down and shared. This writing will have been pre-ceded by something that WASN'T written down and shared. It will be re-written again , in time. So it doesn't fucking matter.
a stone axe or tool isn't something that is written down it's something that's found that we can evaluate!
Doesn't really bare any relation to what I said. then you don't understand archaeology"
I do. I said - What you said bares no relation to what I said. |
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"Why bother your arses considering the question?
You have no exact truths or proofs. You have only 'a' history that was written down and shared. This writing will have been pre-ceded by something that WASN'T written down and shared. It will be re-written again , in time. So it doesn't fucking matter.
Because of the laws of Entropy, nothing matters, but that shouldn’t stop people discussing it."
No reason it shouldn't be discussed but it's always going to be moot without a simple time frame. |
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"Why bother your arses considering the question?
You have no exact truths or proofs. You have only 'a' history that was written down and shared. This writing will have been pre-ceded by something that WASN'T written down and shared. It will be re-written again , in time. So it doesn't fucking matter.
a stone axe or tool isn't something that is written down it's something that's found that we can evaluate!
Doesn't really bare any relation to what I said. then you don't understand archaeology
I do. I said - What you said bares no relation to what I said. "
it is totally relevant they're finding ancient tools all the time.. not just something that was written 200 years ago.. something found today will be written about today |
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"Why bother your arses considering the question?
You have no exact truths or proofs. You have only 'a' history that was written down and shared. This writing will have been pre-ceded by something that WASN'T written down and shared. It will be re-written again , in time. So it doesn't fucking matter.
a stone axe or tool isn't something that is written down it's something that's found that we can evaluate!
Doesn't really bare any relation to what I said. then you don't understand archaeology
I do. I said - What you said bares no relation to what I said. it is totally relevant they're finding ancient tools all the time.. not just something that was written 200 years ago.. something found today will be written about today"
My post considers that writing was pre-ceded.
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"Why bother your arses considering the question?
You have no exact truths or proofs. You have only 'a' history that was written down and shared. This writing will have been pre-ceded by something that WASN'T written down and shared. It will be re-written again , in time. So it doesn't fucking matter.
a stone axe or tool isn't something that is written down it's something that's found that we can evaluate!
Doesn't really bare any relation to what I said. then you don't understand archaeology
I do. I said - What you said bares no relation to what I said. it is totally relevant they're finding ancient tools all the time.. not just something that was written 200 years ago.. something found today will be written about today
My post considers that writing was pre-ceded.
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so a stone axe you now agree is proof.. you said above there was no proof. .
I for one find this an interesting thread and I'm glad people do" bother their arses" as you have put it |
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"How can you discover what was there and people living there?
If I step into your house did I discovered it?  "
originally nobody lived there.. like most countries ..it is now believed we came out of Africa and spread. |
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"No. I don't agree that an axe is proof of who discovered America.
Are you aware that you argue points against me that I haven't made. It's pretty pointless.
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whatever.. it's obvious you just want to argue ..sorry not biting anymore |
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"How can you discover what was there and people living there?
If I step into your house did I discovered it?
If you do discover my house - clean it up please."
I will because it is my house now not yours  |
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"How can you discover what was there and people living there?
If I step into your house did I discovered it?
If you do discover my house - clean it up please.
I will because it is my house now not yours "
Touche ! |
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"No. I don't agree that an axe is proof of who discovered America.
Are you aware that you argue points against me that I haven't made. It's pretty pointless.
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naaaa it's fun lol  |
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We can only guess on which non native first went to america and reported it back to europe. The Vikings are known and proven to of visited the american continent. But one question that hasnt been explained is how cocaine made it's way to ancient Egypt? 1000s of years before the Vikings and Europeans where sailing the seas ? As cocaine is native to south America how did it get to ancient Egypt |
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"No. I don't agree that an axe is proof of who discovered America.
Are you aware that you argue points against me that I haven't made. It's pretty pointless.
naaaa it's fun lol "
It's probably you incognito Gerry ! |
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"We can only guess on which non native first went to america and reported it back to europe. The Vikings are known and proven to of visited the american continent. But one question that hasnt been explained is how cocaine made it's way to ancient Egypt? 1000s of years before the Vikings and Europeans where sailing the seas ? As cocaine is native to south America how did it get to ancient Egypt "
On an axe. |
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Re: clovis points (arrowheads) clovis points originally found in New Mexico then across the Americas.
no similar artefacts 'Clovis points found in Siberia,it is now believed the clovis point was the first real American invention which spread rapidly across the Americas not necessarily by just one tribe.
A pre clovis settlement turned up recently in Chile in the 1990s .
another pre-clovis site was found at a cave in Oregon with fossilised human excrement identified by DNA analysis and by accelerator mass spectrometer as been pre- clovis point. As for more recent European discoverers I would go for the Vikings |
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Watched something that suggested that the phoenicians/ Carthage have history's of sailing to a new world and inventing sea monster myths as a way of deterring other factions from venturing too far into the Atlantic |
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