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over a year ago
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"Definitely not alone in that thinking. Connection is a must for me
Love that.. a woman who agrees with me
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Well look at that a connection!!
Who'd have guessed it. |
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over a year ago
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"What’s the point of sex without connection. That would be some half hearted encounter. Am I alone thinking that?"
You're not alone at all. I'm glad there's one guy on here that genuinely values a connection!
People have said to me they do when in reality they just wanted to use my holes. |
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over a year ago
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"As a couple we go for more attraction than connection . We find you got to have a little connection but we are looking for something a bit different to what we have already "
I still need the physical attraction, but i find the people I'm physically attracted to are players who wouldn't touch.me in the real world.
I need both physical and mental attraction but I think i aim too high. |
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"As a couple we go for more attraction than connection . We find you got to have a little connection but we are looking for something a bit different to what we have already
I still need the physical attraction, but i find the people I'm physically attracted to are players who wouldn't touch.me in the real world.
I need both physical and mental attraction but I think i aim too high. "
Agree with you we still need both on a meet but as a married couple the connection with another couple or single does not have to be the defining factor for us it’s about just having a good time we still need to connect with the people but it does not have to be the major factor if that makes sense . |
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"Definitely not alone in that thinking. Connection is a must for me
Love that.. a woman who agrees with me
Well look at that a connection!!
Who'd have guessed it."
There was me thinking the OP meant clicking conversationally as well as the sexual attraction, but they this is Fab agter all.... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"What’s the point of sex without connection. That would be some half hearted encounter. Am I alone thinking that?
You're not alone at all. I'm glad there's one guy on here that genuinely values a connection!
People have said to me they do when in reality they just wanted to use my holes."
Mind before physical is a must |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Well the forum doesnt support pics so i couldnt put the mad max "thats bait" image in this thread but god damn the op hooked a few good.
Well played"
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"Define connection? when you both want each other but act like you don’t. It’s all in the eyes if you catch my drift "
That just sounds like lust, a connection is a real emotional feeling and you have feelings for a person it isn’t even about sex tbh its basically about deep caring feelings, people seem to bandy this word around quite easily on fab |
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Depends on the situation.
I've had sheet melting sex where the only connection needed is the physical.
You can big that up into something mystical if you want, but I'd just call it lust.
Horses for courses as always of course.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Define connection? when you both want each other but act like you don’t. It’s all in the eyes if you catch my drift
That just sounds like lust, a connection is a real emotional feeling and you have feelings for a person it isn’t even about sex tbh its basically about deep caring feelings, people seem to bandy this word around quite easily on fab"
Couldn't agree more. People are talking about attraction rather than a connection.
I've only experienced an almost instant connection with one person after chatting for a while before meeting. Minor attraction but it was the mental connection, being on the same page that did it for me.
Unfortunately it didn't work out but that's life. Sometimes it's easier if it's more just a physical attraction if you're only looking for nsa. Lust is very powerful which is why it's a sin |
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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago
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Having a connection works in different ways. If you’re having sex in a club with someone you have only just set eyes on but never spoken with before then that is clearly a physical attraction, which some may feel is a connection. Some people want to chat and get to know a person over a period of time before they consider getting physical. Both valid in their own way.
The interpretation of having a connection is as individual as we are. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I’ve been thinking about connection. I think it is actually about how attracted I feel to the other person. I can be attracted in multiple levels physically, mentally and spiritually the more the attraction on each of those levels the more desire I feel. The levels compensate for each other too. However the more attraction I feel the more lust flows if that attraction is mutual, the more I have got to know them and like them the deeper the friendship. So the connection depends on lust flow through attraction and depth of friendship.
Sexual magic for me tends to really start occurring with a lot of lust and the potential for becoming good friends |
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"I’ve been thinking about connection. I think it is actually about how attracted I feel to the other person. I can be attracted in multiple levels physically, mentally and spiritually the more the attraction on each of those levels the more desire I feel. The levels compensate for each other too. However the more attraction I feel the more lust flows if that attraction is mutual, the more I have got to know them and like them the deeper the friendship. So the connection depends on lust flow through attraction and depth of friendship.
Sexual magic for me tends to really start occurring with a lot of lust and the potential for becoming good friends"
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"Define connection? when you both want each other but act like you don’t. It’s all in the eyes if you catch my drift
That just sounds like lust, a connection is a real emotional feeling and you have feelings for a person it isn’t even about sex tbh its basically about deep caring feelings, people seem to bandy this word around quite easily on fab
Couldn't agree more. People are talking about attraction rather than a connection.
I've only experienced an almost instant connection with one person after chatting for a while before meeting. Minor attraction but it was the mental connection, being on the same page that did it for me.
Unfortunately it didn't work out but that's life. Sometimes it's easier if it's more just a physical attraction if you're only looking for nsa. Lust is very powerful which is why it's a sin "
Lust is a kinda good sin |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Define connection? when you both want each other but act like you don’t. It’s all in the eyes if you catch my drift
That just sounds like lust, a connection is a real emotional feeling and you have feelings for a person it isn’t even about sex tbh its basically about deep caring feelings, people seem to bandy this word around quite easily on fab"
I was gonna say what people describe as "connection" seems to just be "horny" |
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"I’ve been thinking about connection. I think it is actually about how attracted I feel to the other person. I can be attracted in multiple levels physically, mentally and spiritually the more the attraction on each of those levels the more desire I feel. The levels compensate for each other too. However the more attraction I feel the more lust flows if that attraction is mutual, the more I have got to know them and like them the deeper the friendship. So the connection depends on lust flow through attraction and depth of friendship.
Sexual magic for me tends to really start occurring with a lot of lust and the potential for becoming good friends"
Not for me I only have real connections very rarely so I wouldn’t lump it together with other people I’ve met attraction is very common but connection isn’t
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"Define connection? when you both want each other but act like you don’t. It’s all in the eyes if you catch my drift
That just sounds like lust, a connection is a real emotional feeling and you have feelings for a person it isn’t even about sex tbh its basically about deep caring feelings, people seem to bandy this word around quite easily on fab
I was gonna say what people describe as "connection" seems to just be "horny""
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Having a connection is OK as long as it doesn't lead to complicated emotional feelings. Unfortunately in some cases, it can and does happen. Personally, I'm not here for that.
Attraction yep.
Connection.. Cautious. |
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I don't mind a shallow, surface connection but I don't believe a genuine connection can be formed between people who have only met in person briefly and exchanged one or two messages on here.
For me sex doesn't need to hold a deeper meaning to be enjoyable and I wouldn't expect the people we meet to feel that way. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'd rather have a cup of tea...
Me too but I think that about everything.
Snap.. it's my go to decision maker.. I seem to choose tea a lot.." good im thursty put kekkle on |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'd rather have a cup of tea...
Me too but I think that about everything.
Snap.. it's my go to decision maker.. I seem to choose tea a lot..good im thursty put kekkle on"
It's always on. I choose tea. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'd rather have a cup of tea...
Me too but I think that about everything.
Snap.. it's my go to decision maker.. I seem to choose tea a lot.."
It's a good choice, it hasn't let me down yet. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"As a couple we go for more attraction than connection . We find you got to have a little connection but we are looking for something a bit different to what we have already "
Exactly this ^^^^ x |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'd rather have a cup of tea...
Me too but I think that about everything.
Snap.. it's my go to decision maker.. I seem to choose tea a lot..
It's a good choice, it hasn't let me down yet. "
Me too.. tea and dogs.. most humans I'll pass on. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'd rather have a cup of tea...
Me too but I think that about everything.
Snap.. it's my go to decision maker.. I seem to choose tea a lot..
It's a good choice, it hasn't let me down yet.
Me too.. tea and dogs.. most humans I'll pass wind on." bloody scruff |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'd rather have a cup of tea...
Me too but I think that about everything.
Snap.. it's my go to decision maker.. I seem to choose tea a lot..
It's a good choice, it hasn't let me down yet.
Me too.. tea and dogs.. most humans I'll pass wind on.bloody scruff "
Eewwwww pass wind on? Terrible lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'd rather have a cup of tea...
Me too but I think that about everything.
Snap.. it's my go to decision maker.. I seem to choose tea a lot..
It's a good choice, it hasn't let me down yet.
Me too.. tea and dogs.. most humans I'll pass on."
Wise. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'd rather have a cup of tea...
Me too but I think that about everything.
Snap.. it's my go to decision maker.. I seem to choose tea a lot..
It's a good choice, it hasn't let me down yet.
Me too.. tea and dogs.. most humans I'll pass wind on.bloody scruff "
Such a knob |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'd rather have a cup of tea...
Me too but I think that about everything.
Snap.. it's my go to decision maker.. I seem to choose tea a lot..
It's a good choice, it hasn't let me down yet.
Me too.. tea and dogs.. most humans I'll pass wind on.bloody scruff
Such a hobknob " dunk me again |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'd rather have a cup of tea...
Me too but I think that about everything.
Snap.. it's my go to decision maker.. I seem to choose tea a lot..
It's a good choice, it hasn't let me down yet.
Me too.. tea and dogs.. most humans I'll pass wind on.bloody scruff
Such a hobknob dunk me again "
Ha ha ha I bloody despair!!!!!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'd rather have a cup of tea...
Me too but I think that about everything.
Snap.. it's my go to decision maker.. I seem to choose tea a lot..
It's a good choice, it hasn't let me down yet.
Me too.. tea and dogs.. most humans I'll pass wind on.bloody scruff
Such a hobknob dunk me again
Ha ha ha I bloody despair!!!!!!" dunno what that means so il not do an edit |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What’s the point of sex without connection. That would be some half hearted encounter. Am I alone thinking that?"
Same as a wank but only one is disapointed. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I’ve been thinking about connection. I think it is actually about how attracted I feel to the other person. I can be attracted in multiple levels physically, mentally and spiritually the more the attraction on each of those levels the more desire I feel. The levels compensate for each other too. However the more attraction I feel the more lust flows if that attraction is mutual, the more I have got to know them and like them the deeper the friendship. So the connection depends on lust flow through attraction and depth of friendship.
Sexual magic for me tends to really start occurring with a lot of lust and the potential for becoming good friends
Not for me I only have real connections very rarely so I wouldn’t lump it together with other people I’ve met attraction is very common but connection isn’t
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That’s the problem with language we all have different meanings attached to the words- that wouldn’t be just a connection for me, That would imply something deeper for me. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'd rather have a cup of tea...
Me too but I think that about everything.
Snap.. it's my go to decision maker.. I seem to choose tea a lot..
It's a good choice, it hasn't let me down yet.
Me too.. tea and dogs.. most humans I'll pass wind on.bloody scruff
Such a hobknob dunk me again
Ha ha ha I bloody despair!!!!!!dunno what that means so il admit defeat and agree you're the cleverest and you truly spanked me on that one as usual "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'd rather have a cup of tea...
Me too but I think that about everything.
Snap.. it's my go to decision maker.. I seem to choose tea a lot..
It's a good choice, it hasn't let me down yet.
Me too.. tea and dogs.. most humans I'll pass wind on.bloody scruff
Such a hobknob dunk me again
Ha ha ha I bloody despair!!!!!!dunno what that means so il admit defeat and agree you're the cleverest and you truly spanked me on that one as usual " i see what you did there what is it with you women and spanking |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'd rather have a cup of tea...
Me too but I think that about everything.
Snap.. it's my go to decision maker.. I seem to choose tea a lot..
It's a good choice, it hasn't let me down yet.
Me too.. tea and dogs.. most humans I'll pass wind on.bloody scruff
Such a hobknob dunk me again
Ha ha ha I bloody despair!!!!!!dunno what that means so il admit defeat and agree you're the cleverest and you truly spanked me on that one as usual i see what you did there what is it with you women and spanking "
Can't help it.. it's the frustrated switch that can't be silenced. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"How long does it take the people who need a connection to form one? Genuine question because to properly connect with someone on an emotional level takes me months of one to one contact."
Depends on what level of connection I think.
Each person is different and have different connection requirements, some more complicated than others.
You state emotional, some its only physical, some a combination at different levels and the circumstances play a part in it too. There may be a kink involved which can heighten connections. Some might be different one day/week to the next. |
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"How long does it take the people who need a connection to form one? Genuine question because to properly connect with someone on an emotional level takes me months of one to one contact.
Depends on what level of connection I think.
Each person is different and have different connection requirements, some more complicated than others.
You state emotional, some its only physical, some a combination at different levels and the circumstances play a part in it too. There may be a kink involved which can heighten connections. Some might be different one day/week to the next."
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I have an emotional connection with B.
I don't need an emotional connection from anywhere else, but what I DO need is a connection of respect, trust and lust, with a side order of emotional intelligence.
P |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'd rather have a cup of tea...
Me too but I think that about everything.
Snap.. it's my go to decision maker.. I seem to choose tea a lot..
It's a good choice, it hasn't let me down yet.
Me too.. tea and dogs.. most humans I'll pass wind on.bloody scruff
Such a hobknob dunk me again
Ha ha ha I bloody despair!!!!!!dunno what that means so il admit defeat and agree you're the cleverest and you truly spanked me on that one as usual i see what you did there what is it with you women and spanking
Can't help it.. it's the frustrated switch that can be silent but deadly. " stop trumping ffs |
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"How long does it take the people who need a connection to form one? Genuine question because to properly connect with someone on an emotional level takes me months of one to one contact.
Depends on what level of connection I think.
Each person is different and have different connection requirements, some more complicated than others.
You state emotional, some its only physical, some a combination at different levels and the circumstances play a part in it too. There may be a kink involved which can heighten connections. Some might be different one day/week to the next."
Ah ok. Maybe I'm using too narrow a definition of connection. I've noticed a certain disdain towards casual sex recently often expressed using words such as connection and intimacy. Personally I think if it feels good, do it |
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By *ilkenWoman
over a year ago
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"I have an emotional connection with B.
I don't need an emotional connection from anywhere else, but what I DO need is a connection of respect, trust and lust, with a side order of emotional intelligence.
P"
Well said |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I have an emotional connection with B.
I don't need an emotional connection from anywhere else, but what I DO need is a connection of respect, trust and lust, with a side order of emotional intelligence.
P
Well said"
Thank you, I seem to have woken with a brain today. These days are rare and should be circled on the calendar
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I have an emotional connection with B.
I don't need an emotional connection from anywhere else, but what I DO need is a connection of respect, trust and lust, with a side order of emotional intelligence.
P
Well said
Thank you, I seem to have woken with a brain today. These days are rare and should be circled on the calendar
P" i agree with most but intelegence i struggle |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Where can I get sex without connection please? All I want is a hard cock. Do you have any idea how hard that is to find on here??? * Cue inbox overload *"
Won't happen. I'm immune. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Where can I get sex without connection please? All I want is a hard cock. Do you have any idea how hard that is to find on here???"
You’ve got me singing ...
“A hard cock is hard to find so please be gentle with this arse of mine” |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Where can I get sex without connection please? All I want is a hard cock. Do you have any idea how hard that is to find on here???
You’ve got me singing ...
“A hard cock is hard to find so please be gentle with this arse of mine” "
Because of this thread I've got Rainbow Connection from the muppet movie playing in my mind.
"Someday we'll find it
The Rainbow Connection
The lovers, the dreamers and me" |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Where can I get sex without connection please? All I want is a hard cock. Do you have any idea how hard that is to find on here???
You’ve got me singing ...
“A hard cock is hard to find so please be gentle with this arse of mine” "
Me too now. Thanks!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Define connection? when you both want each other but act like you don’t. It’s all in the eyes if you catch my drift
That just sounds like lust, a connection is a real emotional feeling and you have feelings for a person it isn’t even about sex tbh its basically about deep caring feelings, people seem to bandy this word around quite easily on fab"
You don’t have to have feelings to have a connection. I connect with all types of people over different things. Not just sexually. I can connect with someone over music or over a different hobby. It’s just being able to click and kinda get each other. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I have an emotional connection with B.
I don't need an emotional connection from anywhere else, but what I DO need is a connection of respect, trust and lust, with a side order of emotional intelligence.
P"
Emotional intelligence, I wish that was easy to find. |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
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As others have said it doesn't have to be an emotional connection - more a chemistry with someone where you connect at a certain level - now that may be simply physical attraction, or shared interests, or any number of other factors - I'm not sure it can actually be defined other than when you find it you know it's there.
Agree with Lickety that there's a difference between meeting via the site and exchanging messages and the kind of "in the moment" thing that happens in clubs - although they're both still a connection on some level, just one is usually more geared towards the physical.
Connection on here can also be very transient which can be misleading too - you think you find someone you connect with and then life, circumstances, whatever happen and that connection is lost. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Where can I get sex without connection please? All I want is a hard cock. Do you have any idea how hard that is to find on here???
You’ve got me singing ...
“A hard cock is hard to find so please be gentle with this arse of mine”
Me too now. Thanks!!"
You’re welcome
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I have an emotional connection with B.
I don't need an emotional connection from anywhere else, but what I DO need is a connection of respect, trust and lust, with a side order of emotional intelligence.
P
Emotional intelligence, I wish that was easy to find. "
For us blokes it’s hard to develop |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"As others have said it doesn't have to be an emotional connection - more a chemistry with someone where you connect at a certain level - now that may be simply physical attraction, or shared interests, or any number of other factors - I'm not sure it can actually be defined other than when you find it you know it's there.
Agree with Lickety that there's a difference between meeting via the site and exchanging messages and the kind of "in the moment" thing that happens in clubs - although they're both still a connection on some level, just one is usually more geared towards the physical.
Connection on here can also be very transient which can be misleading too - you think you find someone you connect with and then life, circumstances, whatever happen and that connection is lost."
That happens to me all the time. Some can be picked up at a later date but many are lost forever. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What’s the point of sex without connection. That would be some half hearted encounter. Am I alone thinking that?"
i can have sex if i fancy them but dont want no attachments (feelings)
but i need attraction and connecttion |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
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Connection on here can also be very transient which can be misleading too - you think you find someone you connect with and then life, circumstances, whatever happen and that connection is lost.
That happens to me all the time. Some can be picked up at a later date but many are lost forever. "
I think we have all had it happen and is the nature of the site to an extent - life, circumstances and other factors all play a part - the thing is when it happens, because of the nature of the site it seems wrong to question it or even to try to understand it sometimes, the expectation being that you accept it and move on - which goes against natural instinct |
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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago
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"How long does it take the people who need a connection to form one? Genuine question because to properly connect with someone on an emotional level takes me months of one to one contact."
When you know, you know.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Connection on here can also be very transient which can be misleading too - you think you find someone you connect with and then life, circumstances, whatever happen and that connection is lost.
That happens to me all the time. Some can be picked up at a later date but many are lost forever.
I think we have all had it happen and is the nature of the site to an extent - life, circumstances and other factors all play a part - the thing is when it happens, because of the nature of the site it seems wrong to question it or even to try to understand it sometimes, the expectation being that you accept it and move on - which goes against natural instinct "
It’s funny you say that. I’ve found myself reconnecting with people over the last few months....I think things can go dormant and then something happens that can generate a spark again..... |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
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Connection on here can also be very transient which can be misleading too - you think you find someone you connect with and then life, circumstances, whatever happen and that connection is lost.
That happens to me all the time. Some can be picked up at a later date but many are lost forever.
I think we have all had it happen and is the nature of the site to an extent - life, circumstances and other factors all play a part - the thing is when it happens, because of the nature of the site it seems wrong to question it or even to try to understand it sometimes, the expectation being that you accept it and move on - which goes against natural instinct
It’s funny you say that. I’ve found myself reconnecting with people over the last few months....I think things can go dormant and then something happens that can generate a spark again....."
Oh absolutely it can bro, but as Lola said above sometimes it just disappears without apparent reason and leaves you scratching your head. |
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over a year ago
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Connection on here can also be very transient which can be misleading too - you think you find someone you connect with and then life, circumstances, whatever happen and that connection is lost.
That happens to me all the time. Some can be picked up at a later date but many are lost forever.
I think we have all had it happen and is the nature of the site to an extent - life, circumstances and other factors all play a part - the thing is when it happens, because of the nature of the site it seems wrong to question it or even to try to understand it sometimes, the expectation being that you accept it and move on - which goes against natural instinct
It’s funny you say that. I’ve found myself reconnecting with people over the last few months....I think things can go dormant and then something happens that can generate a spark again....."
Reunions after a break for whatever reasons can be great with people you have connected with previously. Connection is a must for me. |
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There’s got to be some form of a connection for you to end up having sex. Whether that connection is physical, mental, spiritual, social or something else - there has to be something that gives you that blood rush down south and something that gets the juices flowing.
...even if it’s a little.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There’s got to be some form of a connection for you to end up having sex. Whether that connection is physical, mental, spiritual, social or something else - there has to be something that gives you that blood rush down south and something that gets the juices flowing.
...even if it’s a little.
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It's the connection that makes the sex pleasurable, but is not to be confused with the L word.
Sex with no connection is just a complicated wank, for me. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Connection on here can also be very transient which can be misleading too - you think you find someone you connect with and then life, circumstances, whatever happen and that connection is lost.
That happens to me all the time. Some can be picked up at a later date but many are lost forever.
I think we have all had it happen and is the nature of the site to an extent - life, circumstances and other factors all play a part - the thing is when it happens, because of the nature of the site it seems wrong to question it or even to try to understand it sometimes, the expectation being that you accept it and move on - which goes against natural instinct
It’s funny you say that. I’ve found myself reconnecting with people over the last few months....I think things can go dormant and then something happens that can generate a spark again.....
Oh absolutely it can bro, but as Lola said above sometimes it just disappears without apparent reason and leaves you scratching your head." Yep that too. Mostly I’ve found, in my case, they found better options for them |
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"There’s got to be some form of a connection for you to end up having sex. Whether that connection is physical, mental, spiritual, social or something else - there has to be something that gives you that blood rush down south and something that gets the juices flowing.
...even if it’s a little.
" I agree Pops |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Yep I can't do it without connection. That's why I don't bother looking for new meets. I would rather keep meeting the same person each week who I know makes me tick, is honest with me and is a great fuck. |
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"There’s got to be some form of a connection for you to end up having sex. Whether that connection is physical, mental, spiritual, social or something else - there has to be something that gives you that blood rush down south and something that gets the juices flowing.
...even if it’s a little.
It's the connection that makes the sex pleasurable, but is not to be confused with the L word.
Sex with no connection is just a complicated wank, for me."
Don’t think you can really use the L word in this instant. I agree, both are very different and the dynamic would change.
...I’m a little old school. And I like that. |
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