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over a year ago
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It depends.
The Bible would have no bearing on my reasons to lie for someone in court.
I'm scared of prison so I wouldn't want to ever be in that position! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"No.
Although I don't consider myself a devoutly religious person anymore.
If I swore on the bible, I could not tell a lie, for anyone, or anything. "
Even your kids though? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"No.
Although I don't consider myself a devoutly religious person anymore.
If I swore on the bible, I could not tell a lie, for anyone, or anything.
Even your kids though?"
Nope particularly in court etc |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"To protect my family and true friends I'd say or indeed do whatever is needed if circumstances required "
Me too  (depending on what they’d done of course).
It’s a case if could I? Yes I could
Would I? Depends on situation |
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"No.
Although I don't consider myself a devoutly religious person anymore.
If I swore on the bible, I could not tell a lie, for anyone, or anything.
Even your kids though?"
Even my kids.
If they were in court, and I truly believed them innocent, then I wouldn't have to lie.
My eldest son stole sweets from a shop when he was 6, put upto it by a friends older brother.
He was marched back into the shop, apologised & handed over his pocket money.
I didn't raise my children to commit crimes, of any nature |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If you are found out to be lying under oath then that's purgery which is a crime itself
Everyone knows that. The question is could you?"
Ooooooh missy knickers |
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over a year ago
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"I guess admitting in a public forum that you are prepared to commit perjury is a fantastic move if you ever have to commit perjury "
Bloody hell thats true. Nora from East Midlands. They’re bound to find me  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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When I did jury service you chose whether to swear on the bible or just do an oathy thing, I did the oathy thing.
I felt if I was committing to the bibley one it was false for me as I don't believe in it, not that I would have tried to twist anything anyway regardless.
It's more about having a personal conscience than anything else.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"No.
Although I don't consider myself a devoutly religious person anymore.
If I swore on the bible, I could not tell a lie, for anyone, or anything.
Even your kids though?
Even my kids.
If they were in court, and I truly believed them innocent, then I wouldn't have to lie.
My eldest son stole sweets from a shop when he was 6, put upto it by a friends older brother.
He was marched back into the shop, apologised & handed over his pocket money.
I didn't raise my children to commit crimes, of any nature "
I’m sure most people didn’t. But if it came down to it I’d take a bullet for my kids. Nobody else but my kids I would. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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That would depend on whether I believe them to be completed innocent or not, I don’t think I could live with myself, if I lied to protect someone that had done something that wrong and another person suffered in their place that was innocent.. |
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"No.
Although I don't consider myself a devoutly religious person anymore.
If I swore on the bible, I could not tell a lie, for anyone, or anything.
Even your kids though?
Even my kids.
If they were in court, and I truly believed them innocent, then I wouldn't have to lie.
My eldest son stole sweets from a shop when he was 6, put upto it by a friends older brother.
He was marched back into the shop, apologised & handed over his pocket money.
I didn't raise my children to commit crimes, of any nature
I’m sure most people didn’t. But if it came down to it I’d take a bullet for my kids. Nobody else but my kids I would. "
I suppose, it would depend on the crime.
Something minor, trivial, I could refuse to answer, no comment, for something minor.
But a biggy, an awful crime. No. Never. |
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By *omvampmMan
over a year ago
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"To protect my family and true friends I'd say or indeed do whatever is needed if circumstances required
Me too (depending on what they’d done of course).
It’s a case if could I? Yes I could
Would I? Depends on situation "
oh I agree depends a lot on situation and seriousness but my intentions would always be to try and protect or do say best thing x |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"No.
Although I don't consider myself a devoutly religious person anymore.
If I swore on the bible, I could not tell a lie, for anyone, or anything. "
I have similar reasoning, I just wouldn’t feel comfortable doing it at all |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Yes, dependant on the situation, I'd happily swear on a what to me is a meaningless book. "
I agree with the meaningless book part but surprised by your answer tbh. I’d have put you down for a definite “no I wouldn’t”
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Just read shags thread and got me thinking. Could you swear on the bible in court to tell the truth and lie for anyone (ie family, friends) ? "
id happily lie in court and have done before too |
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"Just read shags thread and got me thinking. Could you swear on the bible in court to tell the truth and lie for anyone (ie family, friends) ? id happily lie in court and have done before too "
Not surprised by that one  |
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"Just read shags thread and got me thinking. Could you swear on the bible in court to tell the truth and lie for anyone (ie family, friends) ? id happily lie in court and have done before too
Not surprised by that one what the fact iv been in court  "
Haha. Well that too! |
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"Just read shags thread and got me thinking. Could you swear on the bible in court to tell the truth and lie for anyone (ie family, friends) ? id happily lie in court and have done before too
Not surprised by that one what the fact iv been in court
Haha. Well that too! "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Yes, dependant on the situation, I'd happily swear on a what to me is a meaningless book.
I agree with the meaningless book part but surprised by your answer tbh. I’d have put you down for a definite “no I wouldn’t”
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My family and friends mean more to me than a book used to control the masses and a law that doesn't apply to everyone equally.
I'd lie, steal and cheat to protect my immideate family, especially my son's. Some friends may as well be blood relatives and I'd protect them from the long arm of the law if I didn't think the crime was that bad.
On the whole I'm relatively open and honest, but I will break that behaviour to protect the ones I love, if need be.
It's not like I have much respect for the law or the book anyway. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Just read shags thread and got me thinking. Could you swear on the bible in court to tell the truth and lie for anyone (ie family, friends) ? id happily lie in court and have done before too
Not surprised by that one what the fact iv been in court
Haha. Well that too! girls love a badboy "
A lot do yes. You act like one on here but hate to burst that bubble as those that know you well know you’re anything but a bad guy |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Yes, dependant on the situation, I'd happily swear on a what to me is a meaningless book.
I agree with the meaningless book part but surprised by your answer tbh. I’d have put you down for a definite “no I wouldn’t”
My family and friends mean more to me than a book used to control the masses and a law that doesn't apply to everyone equally.
I'd lie, steal and cheat to protect my immideate family, especially my son's. Some friends may as well be blood relatives and I'd protect them from the long arm of the law if I didn't think the crime was that bad.
On the whole I'm relatively open and honest, but I will break that behaviour to protect the ones I love, if need be.
It's not like I have much respect for the law or the book anyway."
Couldn’t have put it better myself x |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Just read shags thread and got me thinking. Could you swear on the bible in court to tell the truth and lie for anyone (ie family, friends) ? id happily lie in court and have done before too
Not surprised by that one what the fact iv been in court
Haha. Well that too! girls love a badboy
A lot do yes. You act like one on here but hate to burst that bubble as those that know you well know you’re anything but a bad guy "
shhhhh i got a rep |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Just read shags thread and got me thinking. Could you swear on the bible in court to tell the truth and lie for anyone (ie family, friends) ? id happily lie in court and have done before too
Not surprised by that one what the fact iv been in court
Haha. Well that too! girls love a badboy
A lot do yes. You act like one on here but hate to burst that bubble as those that know you well know you’re anything but a bad guy shhhhh i got a rep "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Just read shags thread and got me thinking. Could you swear on the bible in court to tell the truth and lie for anyone (ie family, friends) ? "
I wouldn't lie in court but it has nothing to do with swearing on the bible, a mere book of Chinese whispers |
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By (user no longer on site)
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This is where doughnut and I differ (which isn’t often) he said he would do anything to protect his kids if they were in trouble and if that meant he took the blame for them he would, however I believe that if my kids did something that they ended up in court for, I would let them get punished for their crimes (I mean if it was clear as day they did whatever they were in court for) because they need to learn from their mistakes, so no, I wouldn’t swear on the bible for anyone if I knew they were guilty. |
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By *MP3Man
over a year ago
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"I guess admitting in a public forum that you are prepared to commit perjury is a fantastic move if you ever have to commit perjury
Bloody hell thats true. Nora from East Midlands. They’re bound to find me "
The Potential Perjurer unit have eyes and ears everywhere...  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I guess admitting in a public forum that you are prepared to commit perjury is a fantastic move if you ever have to commit perjury
Bloody hell thats true. Nora from East Midlands. They’re bound to find me
The Potential Perjurer unit have eyes and ears everywhere... "
Hehe. Nora’s not daft. Nora doesn’t even live in the East Midlands . |
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"I guess admitting in a public forum that you are prepared to commit perjury is a fantastic move if you ever have to commit perjury "
Yeah!! When the murder case comes up to which I swear on the bible under oath ..... every member of the jury will say ...... Ayup....... isn't that that lying bitch Granny Crumpet? I've had her! God I wouldn't have done if i'd have known!! |
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By *MP3Man
over a year ago
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"I guess admitting in a public forum that you are prepared to commit perjury is a fantastic move if you ever have to commit perjury
Bloody hell thats true. Nora from East Midlands. They’re bound to find me
The Potential Perjurer unit have eyes and ears everywhere...
Hehe. Nora’s not daft. Nora doesn’t even live in the East Midlands . "
They'll already know this |
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"I guess admitting in a public forum that you are prepared to commit perjury is a fantastic move if you ever have to commit perjury
Yeah!! When the murder case comes up to which I swear on the bible under oath ..... every member of the jury will say ...... Ayup....... isn't that that lying bitch Granny Crumpet? I've had her! God I wouldn't have done if i'd have known!!"
. Granny and Nora lie in court to save PMF. I can see the headlines now. |
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"I guess admitting in a public forum that you are prepared to commit perjury is a fantastic move if you ever have to commit perjury
Yeah!! When the murder case comes up to which I swear on the bible under oath ..... every member of the jury will say ...... Ayup....... isn't that that lying bitch Granny Crumpet? I've had her! God I wouldn't have done if i'd have known!!
. Granny and Nora lie in court to save PMF. I can see the headlines now. "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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No matter how much I loved the person being accused, I just couldn't lie on oath. It's not a natural thing for me to do to as I was brought up to be an honest person and always tell the truth. I would be too scared to commit perjury and cause a miscarriage of justice. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If I was ever in the place that I had to go to court with a friend/family and lie to get them out of a situation, I wouldn't.
If you find yourself in court and need someone to lie, you deserve to be there and be legitimately trialed. |
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"Just read shags thread and got me thinking. Could you swear on the bible in court to tell the truth and lie for anyone (ie family, friends) ? "
As a non-believer, I use the affirmation in court rather than a religious oath. But no, I wouldn't lie in court. |
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By *ot-AshMan
over a year ago
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I have never been to court and hope i never have to but I'd never lie even if it meant saving a family member or friend like giving a false alibi and I'm not a religious person but know in my mind it would be wrong to do so. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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No.
Not only that, but it is not a requirement of the courts.
Other options are available.
You would not expect a Muslim t swear on the Bible would you. No, they are able to take an oath on the Koram.
As for Atheists, such as myself, or anyone else not wishing to swear on the bible, a general statement of affirmation is all that is required.
I know this as I spent 6 and a half years battling through the courts over my children |
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"The bible would be irrelevant but lying in court is something I couldn’t do. I would be too scared of getting caught out. No I couldn’t do it. "
Quite. I could put my hand on Harry Potter or The Art of the Deal and it wouldn't matter. I'm not lying in court. |
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"I’m going to hell anyway. The stuff I know or have been party to means I’ll get fast tracked there anyway.
Would never give up family or friends"
The fact that there’s a highway to hell and a stairway to heaven says a lot about expected numbers ....... |
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"Just read shags thread and got me thinking. Could you swear on the bible in court to tell the truth and lie for anyone (ie family, friends) ? "
I've sworn on the bible many times.
The bible has nothing to do with my choice.
If I swear to tell the truth, I tell the truth.
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