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"The ones that insist on riding on a dangerous road when there is a perfectly good purpose built cycle path running parallel to it" Yeah, we’ve been through this, most aren’t fit for purpose. Cycle on are roads for a month and then come back to me. | |||
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"Especially when you drive as some of them are using the whole lane, the same goes when they are 2 they are beside eachother and dont move, is it allowed, what do you do, do you beep at them? Lol." There ment to ride 1 behind the other I nearly had one off his bike the other day the twat came off the cerb infont of me didn't even look then decided to shout loads of abuse the twat | |||
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"The ones that insist on riding on a dangerous road when there is a perfectly good purpose built cycle path running parallel to it Yeah, we’ve been through this, most aren’t fit for purpose. Cycle on are roads for a month and then come back to me." Yep Tame I'm with you . I'm off out on my bike | |||
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"I’m fine with giving cyclists a wide berth when overtaking them, I always make sure all my car wheels are across the white lines when I pass them. Unfortunately when they’re taking up the full lane that means I’m less than a metre from the nearest one which is still a bit close for their safety. " Usually when they take the lane it's for their own safety. If you wouldn't overtake a car in similar circumstances, don't overtake a bike. Wait until it's safe for both of you. | |||
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"I’m fine with giving cyclists a wide berth when overtaking them, I always make sure all my car wheels are across the white lines when I pass them. Unfortunately when they’re taking up the full lane that means I’m less than a metre from the nearest one which is still a bit close for their safety. Usually when they take the lane it's for their own safety. If you wouldn't overtake a car in similar circumstances, don't overtake a bike. Wait until it's safe for both of you. " It’s safe, but if I overtake a car it doesn’t get spooked by me being that close or affected by the wind blast, even being 5-10mph faster | |||
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"I’m fine with giving cyclists a wide berth when overtaking them, I always make sure all my car wheels are across the white lines when I pass them. Unfortunately when they’re taking up the full lane that means I’m less than a metre from the nearest one which is still a bit close for their safety. Usually when they take the lane it's for their own safety. If you wouldn't overtake a car in similar circumstances, don't overtake a bike. Wait until it's safe for both of you. It’s safe, but if I overtake a car it doesn’t get spooked by me being that close or affected by the wind blast, even being 5-10mph faster" The driver also doesnt tend to swerve towards you as they turn thier head to see you pass like many cycalists do | |||
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"I’m fine with giving cyclists a wide berth when overtaking them, I always make sure all my car wheels are across the white lines when I pass them. Unfortunately when they’re taking up the full lane that means I’m less than a metre from the nearest one which is still a bit close for their safety. Usually when they take the lane it's for their own safety. If you wouldn't overtake a car in similar circumstances, don't overtake a bike. Wait until it's safe for both of you. It’s safe, but if I overtake a car it doesn’t get spooked by me being that close or affected by the wind blast, even being 5-10mph faster" If they get spooked by you being so close then you clearly are too close. | |||
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"What more annoying white van drivers or cyclists?" Motor homes and caravans on narrow roads that are following sat nav. | |||
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"I cycle to work it's a short commute mainly on cycle paths. I save a fortune and don't pollute the planet. I don't wear lycra or hog the road. I find car drivers much more annoying - this hatred for cyclists pissed me off." Well said! I love you | |||
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"Cyclists do also pollute the planet. I mean their bikes are not made of twigs are they?!" Thats not even open to discussion | |||
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"Cyclists do also pollute the planet. I mean their bikes are not made of twigs are they?!" But they burn fat instead of oil to travel, which makes them far superior than anyone sat in a metal box. | |||
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"I cycle to work it's a short commute mainly on cycle paths. I save a fortune and don't pollute the planet. I don't wear lycra or hog the road. I find car drivers much more annoying - this hatred for cyclists pissed me off. Well said! I love you " I think you should give me a hug for standing up to these car bullies | |||
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"Don't get me started. Late last year I had to replace a door mirror because of a cyclist. Idiot pulled across the road right into me." My son went through life changing injuries because some arsehole driver decided to do an illegal right turn right in his legal path. Thoughts and prayers for your wing mirror. | |||
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"Especially when you drive as some of them are using the whole lane, the same goes when they are 2 they are beside eachother and dont move, is it allowed, what do you do, do you beep at them? Lol." the reason they have to move across is because the state of road kerbside is pretty terrible and getting worse on most roads ,cycling is good for your health and it would appear you're into being healthy | |||
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"Cyclists do also pollute the planet. I mean their bikes are not made of twigs are they?! Thats not even open to discussion " Of course it is. This I don't pollute but you do attitude is not helping climate change . The planet is stressed by agriculture as well as animal farming and the manufacture of textiles and steel. If you want to not pollute then take a leaf out of Ghandi's book. Live a simple a life as possible. | |||
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"Oh one more thing, if all these cyclists were driving in cars instead, the traffic would be worse and you’d be sat in your tin boxes for longer, why can’t motorists grasp that very simply concept ?! " It's horses for courses. Some of us use all modes of transport. With 2 hour car commutes for example who would swap to a bike to get to work and back? | |||
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"Today is the last day I drive to work, once the clocks go back I’ll cycle everyday. I save money, it takes me about the same length of time, I’m less stressed, I feel Invigorated, I get fitter. " fuck the haters | |||
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"Especially when you drive as some of them are using the whole lane, the same goes when they are 2 they are beside eachother and dont move, is it allowed, what do you do, do you beep at them? Lol." You drive yet don’t know the Highway Code or driving laws? | |||
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"I cycle to work it's a short commute mainly on cycle paths. I save a fortune and don't pollute the planet. I don't wear lycra or hog the road. I find car drivers much more annoying - this hatred for cyclists pissed me off. Well said! I love you I think you should give me a hug for standing up to these car bullies " I'll check your tyre pressures anytime you like my dear | |||
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"Especially when you drive as some of them are using the whole lane, the same goes when they are 2 they are beside eachother and dont move, is it allowed, what do you do, do you beep at them? Lol. You drive yet don’t know the Highway Code or driving laws?" Never ever beep. You wouldn't do it to someone riding a horse, so why do it to someone riding a bike | |||
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"Especially when you drive as some of them are using the whole lane, the same goes when they are 2 they are beside eachother and dont move, is it allowed, what do you do, do you beep at them? Lol. You drive yet don’t know the Highway Code or driving laws?" You clearly dont either. "Rule 66 You should: never ride more than two abreast, and ride in single file on narrow or busy roads and when riding round bends" If theres traffic behind they shouldnt be riding alongside as its a busy road | |||
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"Especially when you drive as some of them are using the whole lane, the same goes when they are 2 they are beside eachother and dont move, is it allowed, what do you do, do you beep at them? Lol. You drive yet don’t know the Highway Code or driving laws? You clearly dont either. "Rule 66 You should: never ride more than two abreast, and ride in single file on narrow or busy roads and when riding round bends" If theres traffic behind they shouldnt be riding alongside as its a busy road" cyclists come first in the order of road users firstly because the cycle was invented first ,secondly because on the road we are vulnerable because potholes and inconsiderate drivers make it a risky business and thirdly because I say so | |||
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"my block button is on fire this morning " I'm sure thats of great concern to everybody involved | |||
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" The greatest sporting event in the world is the Tour de France. " By what metric? Personally i lrefer the paris dakar but i think the world cup probbaly beats both | |||
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"my block button is on fire this morning " my sex is on fiyaaaaaaa | |||
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"Especially when you drive as some of them are using the whole lane, the same goes when they are 2 they are beside eachother and dont move, is it allowed, what do you do, do you beep at them? Lol." waterpistol drive by | |||
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"I cycle to work it's a short commute mainly on cycle paths. I save a fortune and don't pollute the planet. I don't wear lycra or hog the road. I find car drivers much more annoying - this hatred for cyclists pissed me off." | |||
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"Especially when you drive as some of them are using the whole lane, the same goes when they are 2 they are beside eachother and dont move, is it allowed, what do you do, do you beep at them? Lol. You drive yet don’t know the Highway Code or driving laws?" No I dont drive, but you can still think it is wrong to take up the lane. | |||
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"Especially when you drive as some of them are using the whole lane, the same goes when they are 2 they are beside eachother and dont move, is it allowed, what do you do, do you beep at them? Lol. You drive yet don’t know the Highway Code or driving laws? No I dont drive, but you can still think it is wrong to take up the lane." Do you rollerblade? | |||
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"Especially when you drive as some of them are using the whole lane, the same goes when they are 2 they are beside eachother and dont move, is it allowed, what do you do, do you beep at them? Lol. You drive yet don’t know the Highway Code or driving laws? No I dont drive, but you can still think it is wrong to take up the lane. Do you rollerblade?" No. I walk, you? | |||
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"Especially when you drive as some of them are using the whole lane, the same goes when they are 2 they are beside eachother and dont move, is it allowed, what do you do, do you beep at them? Lol. You drive yet don’t know the Highway Code or driving laws? No I dont drive, but you can still think it is wrong to take up the lane. Do you rollerblade? No. I walk, you?" Walk if possible, if not bus it | |||
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"Especially when you drive as some of them are using the whole lane, the same goes when they are 2 they are beside eachother and dont move, is it allowed, what do you do, do you beep at them? Lol. You drive yet don’t know the Highway Code or driving laws? No I dont drive, but you can still think it is wrong to take up the lane. Do you rollerblade? No. I walk, you? Walk if possible, if not bus it " That is good and same here, bus as well. | |||
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"Especially when you drive as some of them are using the whole lane, the same goes when they are 2 they are beside eachother and dont move, is it allowed, what do you do, do you beep at them? Lol. You drive yet don’t know the Highway Code or driving laws? No I dont drive, but you can still think it is wrong to take up the lane. Do you rollerblade? No. I walk, you? Walk if possible, if not bus it That is good and same here, bus as well." Dont walk or use bus not practical for me | |||
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"Especially when you drive as some of them are using the whole lane, the same goes when they are 2 they are beside eachother and dont move, is it allowed, what do you do, do you beep at them? Lol. You drive yet don’t know the Highway Code or driving laws? No I dont drive, but you can still think it is wrong to take up the lane. Do you rollerblade? No. I walk, you? Walk if possible, if not bus it That is good and same here, bus as well. Dont walk or use bus not practical for me" That is good | |||
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"The ones that insist on riding on a dangerous road when there is a perfectly good purpose built cycle path running parallel to it" What makes a dangerous road? | |||
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"The ones that insist on riding on a dangerous road when there is a perfectly good purpose built cycle path running parallel to it What makes a dangerous road?" hedgehogs | |||
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"The ones that insist on riding on a dangerous road when there is a perfectly good purpose built cycle path running parallel to it What makes a dangerous road?" little bleeders puncture yer tyres | |||
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"The ones that insist on riding on a dangerous road when there is a perfectly good purpose built cycle path running parallel to it What makes a dangerous road?little bleeders puncture yer tyres " Yes, when there is a perfectly serviceable hedge running parallel to the road. | |||
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"wonder how many drivers and cyclists know the 8 basic hand signals for cyclists." I know of about three: Waving the fist, making a wanking gesture, sticking up the middle finger.... | |||
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"The ones that insist on riding on a dangerous road when there is a perfectly good purpose built cycle path running parallel to it What makes a dangerous road?little bleeders puncture yer tyres Yes, when there is a perfectly serviceable hedge running parallel to the road." yes the inconsiderate little spikey flea bags | |||
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"All you drivers moaning about cyclists. You’d hate me in real life. I may hold your journey up by a few seconds but I’m not polluting the earth on my way to and from work " Just in every other second of your western existance | |||
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"All you drivers moaning about cyclists. You’d hate me in real life. I may hold your journey up by a few seconds but I’m not polluting the earth on my way to and from work Just in every other second of your western existance " Whereas people in the East don’t pollute the Earth whatsoever! | |||
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"The annoying road users, are the ones who get annoyed by other road users. It is a shared resource, play nicely!" Nicely put. Bravo. | |||
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"I cycle every day... and I'm aware of driver, I use the cycle path and when a busy road use the path BUT some driver are just rude to me! Rebecca" Same here . Have done exactly the same for 14 years , and I've been spat at , called a cunt , and , rather randomly, been called a fucking liability | |||
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"The ones that insist on riding on a dangerous road when there is a perfectly good purpose built cycle path running parallel to it" This!! | |||
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"Yeah, totally fine, I'm afraid. Taking the lane is recommended by government-approved cycle training scheme Bikeability, because cyclists are safest where they can see the road and be seen. Section 163 of the Highway Code states road users should: "Give motorcyclists, cyclists and horse riders at least as much room as you would when overtaking a car." Duncan Pickering, cycling manager at the Institute of Advanced Motoring (IAM), says: "A bicycle is a vehicle on the road and a person riding it has the right to act like any other person on the road.We all hear of cases where someone gets too close to the left and there are very unfortunate consequences if a lorry driver doesn't see them.'Some motorists think it is a divine right to be moving at whatever speed they want and a cyclist is holding them up. I'm afraid it is tough if a cyclist holds them up. In most urban areas traffic moves slowly so a cyclist doesn't hold up traffic." " This! | |||
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"The ones that insist on riding on a dangerous road when there is a perfectly good purpose built cycle path running parallel to it This!! " Nope, cycle paths in Britain aren't built for the supposed purpose. | |||
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"The annoying road users, are the ones who get annoyed by other road users. It is a shared resource, play nicely!" Well put! | |||
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"The ones that insist on riding on a dangerous road when there is a perfectly good purpose built cycle path running parallel to it This!! Nope, cycle paths in Britain aren't built for the supposed purpose. " perfectly good..naaa. .pot holes & glass lane more like. lowest priority council highways spending. | |||
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"There was a thread, or had been a number of threads, on this and on another of sweeping generalisations. Sadly something that comes out a lot in many of these threads. There are bad cyclists, there are bad car drivers, there are bad commercial vehicle drivers. Equally there are good versions of each. As someone else had mentioned, roads are a shared resource for all and respect to other road users should come from all. Cyclists and drivers alike. I am sometimes a pedestrian, sometimes a cyclist, sometimes a driver and experience the frustrations from other people as all 3. I get annoyed walking along a narrow bridle way being dinged by a cyclist as they want to pass yet I have no where to go but the hedge. How would they like being beeped by a car. Equally I have been beeped and abused as a cyclist. Know the laws, abide by the laws or at least if you break them live with the consequences, have some patience, mutual respect, stop thinking your progress is the most important thing in life and just enjoy the journey" I've noticed cyclists using a bell gets ignored as everyone has headphones welded on ! | |||
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"Today is the last day I drive to work, once the clocks go back I’ll cycle everyday. I save money, it takes me about the same length of time, I’m less stressed, I feel Invigorated, I get fitter. " You certainly don't sound less stressed... | |||
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"There was a thread, or had been a number of threads, on this and on another of sweeping generalisations. Sadly something that comes out a lot in many of these threads. There are bad cyclists, there are bad car drivers, there are bad commercial vehicle drivers. Equally there are good versions of each. As someone else had mentioned, roads are a shared resource for all and respect to other road users should come from all. Cyclists and drivers alike. I am sometimes a pedestrian, sometimes a cyclist, sometimes a driver and experience the frustrations from other people as all 3. I get annoyed walking along a narrow bridle way being dinged by a cyclist as they want to pass yet I have no where to go but the hedge. How would they like being beeped by a car. Equally I have been beeped and abused as a cyclist. Know the laws, abide by the laws or at least if you break them live with the consequences, have some patience, mutual respect, stop thinking your progress is the most important thing in life and just enjoy the journey I've noticed cyclists using a bell gets ignored as everyone has headphones welded on !" And the bell, as with the horn, is there to let other road users know you are there ... not to constantly badger other user to get the hell out your way ... in every way ... if you want to pass someone it is YOUR responsibility to ensure you do so safely ... headphones... bad road position etc is an excuse for ire ... no to endanger life or safety | |||
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"If its safest for a motorbike or bicycle to take the whole road, then why do they filter through traffic? Why do they ignore the advice themselves when it suits them, and follow it when it suits them? Thats the main problem with them. They are inconsistent, they quote rules to suit themselves, they follow rules in a haphazard way, they are unpredictable, they make the road dangerous for you as you have to give them more attention than other road users." Yeah, the drivers of motorised vehicles NEVER do that. | |||
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"If its safest for a motorbike or bicycle to take the whole road, then why do they filter through traffic? Why do they ignore the advice themselves when it suits them, and follow it when it suits them? Thats the main problem with them. They are inconsistent, they quote rules to suit themselves, they follow rules in a haphazard way, they are unpredictable, they make the road dangerous for you as you have to give them more attention than other road users. Yeah, the drivers of motorised vehicles NEVER do that. " What she said | |||
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"Yeah, the drivers of motorised vehicles NEVER do that. " They do, and if they are caught they get penalty points, and keep doing it they get banned from driving. What happens a cyclist? But i mean if thats your excuse for them being idiots, cause they want to aim to be as good as the worst people in a car, sure, go for it. Just admit it and own it, and stop pretending like they are following some higher up rules and are good people, when they are not. | |||
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"If its safest for a motorbike or bicycle to take the whole road, then why do they filter through traffic? Why do they ignore the advice themselves when it suits them, and follow it when it suits them? Thats the main problem with them. They are inconsistent, they quote rules to suit themselves, they follow rules in a haphazard way, they are unpredictable, they make the road dangerous for you as you have to give them more attention than other road users. Yeah, the drivers of motorised vehicles NEVER do that. " Always to good to back up with specific examples rather than just sling mud.... Or carefully pick through his remarks and have a proper debate....but then this is fab I guess. | |||
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"The last of my sympathy for cyclists went Boxing Day after I was passed by one in dark clothes with no lights on the wrong side of the road going onto a roundabout whilst I was driving home after a night shift. There's just way to many of them that do whatever they want, whenever they want, wherever they want. " Again .. my previous post about sweeping generalisations ... not all cyclists do that ... not all drivers are shit drivers... You saw him .. avoided him ... rolled eyes probably ... like a responsible road user should do | |||
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"It's not bikes, motorbikes or cars that are the problem...it's the people using them. There's fuckers using them all and few are as innocent as they make themselves out to be.... Including myself at times (I used to ride a bike on the roads till one day I realised it was safer not to. I wasn't going to change the volume of traffic, nor reduce the size of the vehicles using them either). I still use my bike but in more appropriate places away from the roads and traffic that only get worse. Some one made a long quote and in it said something important... 'cant be seen'... That sums up most cyclists, most don't wear suitable clothing, nor suitable protective gear. As said by someone they expect their safety to be adhered by others not themselves. Sometimes one has to move to be safe. " Appropriate place? Suitable clothing? Always good to blame the victim. That said I can wear hi viz & reflective a & jab great lights, still not seen, seen or ignored & my lights are too bright.. Simply cannot win, but keep on cycling. | |||
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"Yeah, the drivers of motorised vehicles NEVER do that. They do, and if they are caught they get penalty points, and keep doing it they get banned from driving. What happens a cyclist? But i mean if thats your excuse for them being idiots, cause they want to aim to be as good as the worst people in a car, sure, go for it. Just admit it and own it, and stop pretending like they are following some higher up rules and are good people, when they are not." Hard to argue against that. Previous posts have suggested that cyclists should have to get a license of competence, have insurance, road worthy certificate and pay some form of VED too, but they all seemed to think that was unfair for them for whatever reason which we never found out. I'm guessing most wouldn't cycle on the roads then. Level playing field would stop a lot of arguments. | |||
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"It's not bikes, motorbikes or cars that are the problem...it's the people using them. There's fuckers using them all and few are as innocent as they make themselves out to be.... Including myself at times (I used to ride a bike on the roads till one day I realised it was safer not to. I wasn't going to change the volume of traffic, nor reduce the size of the vehicles using them either). I still use my bike but in more appropriate places away from the roads and traffic that only get worse. Some one made a long quote and in it said something important... 'cant be seen'... That sums up most cyclists, most don't wear suitable clothing, nor suitable protective gear. As said by someone they expect their safety to be adhered by others not themselves. Sometimes one has to move to be safe. Appropriate place? Suitable clothing? Always good to blame the victim. That said I can wear hi viz & reflective a & jab great lights, still not seen, seen or ignored & my lights are too bright.. Simply cannot win, but keep on cycling." So you as a cyclist think you're the victim? How is that? | |||
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"Lazy thread. It’s like me saying people who just go on about going to the gym are really boring and tedious. Oh, they are. " Yes that is right. | |||
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"It's not bikes, motorbikes or cars that are the problem...it's the people using them. There's fuckers using them all and few are as innocent as they make themselves out to be.... Including myself at times (I used to ride a bike on the roads till one day I realised it was safer not to. I wasn't going to change the volume of traffic, nor reduce the size of the vehicles using them either). I still use my bike but in more appropriate places away from the roads and traffic that only get worse. Some one made a long quote and in it said something important... 'cant be seen'... That sums up most cyclists, most don't wear suitable clothing, nor suitable protective gear. As said by someone they expect their safety to be adhered by others not themselves. Sometimes one has to move to be safe. Appropriate place? Suitable clothing? Always good to blame the victim. That said I can wear hi viz & reflective a & jab great lights, still not seen, seen or ignored & my lights are too bright.. Simply cannot win, but keep on cycling. So you as a cyclist think you're the victim? How is that? " cyclists came first we gravitate to a higher level of worthiness | |||
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"Yeah, the drivers of motorised vehicles NEVER do that. They do, and if they are caught they get penalty points, and keep doing it they get banned from driving. What happens a cyclist? But i mean if thats your excuse for them being idiots, cause they want to aim to be as good as the worst people in a car, sure, go for it. Just admit it and own it, and stop pretending like they are following some higher up rules and are good people, when they are not." | |||
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"*looks in ... thinks my comment on sweeping generalisations, not everyone is right and not everyone is wrong is galling on deaf ears ... shakes head and retreats to east the popcorn*" And I can't even type that right | |||
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"It's not bikes, motorbikes or cars that are the problem...it's the people using them. There's fuckers using them all and few are as innocent as they make themselves out to be.... Including myself at times (I used to ride a bike on the roads till one day I realised it was safer not to. I wasn't going to change the volume of traffic, nor reduce the size of the vehicles using them either). I still use my bike but in more appropriate places away from the roads and traffic that only get worse. Some one made a long quote and in it said something important... 'cant be seen'... That sums up most cyclists, most don't wear suitable clothing, nor suitable protective gear. As said by someone they expect their safety to be adhered by others not themselves. Sometimes one has to move to be safe. Appropriate place? Suitable clothing? Always good to blame the victim. That said I can wear hi viz & reflective a & jab great lights, still not seen, seen or ignored & my lights are too bright.. Simply cannot win, but keep on cycling. So you as a cyclist think you're the victim? How is that? cyclists came first we gravitate to a higher level of worthiness " That's the type of argument that gives cyclists credibility. If you wish to be taken seriously then give good serious counter arguments. It's the same for the motorist. Act the tit then be seen as a tit and be treated as one. | |||
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"I was told by a cycle proficiency trainer that they are allowed to be four ft or 1.2 m from kerb . They can ride side by side too . If there’s a group they can ride all together and take the whole side of a road . When he told me that I give them the courtesy and a wide berth, as I would a horse and rider " I agree with all that. Road users all allowed to do a lot of things, sometimes is best not to assume your rights for many reasons. Its not always best to stick to the allowed speed limit, sometimes it's best to give the other person the right of way even if it's your right, I could cite many more examples, the point I think a lot have been saying in this post as almost any previous one, is that cyclists think they own the road because they are allowed to do this or that and can get get away with things too. Being arrogant about the road safety issues is at the feet of motorists won't win the hearts of motorists either. | |||
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"Try winding the window dowm on approch. Wait untill just 1ft behind and bark like a dog as loud as you can sounds stupid i know. But when they snap round to see a psycho barking, face plant on the curb side really cheered me up lol. Evil " You are correct . It is evil . And Stupid | |||
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"Who started this thread? I hope they're proud of themselves!!! " It's better than some couple or lady starting a ...All single guys are... type of thread. | |||
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"Who started this thread? I hope they're proud of themselves!!! It's better than some couple or lady starting a ...All single guys are... type of thread. " Yeah ... but they are | |||
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"Try winding the window dowm on approch. Wait untill just 1ft behind and bark like a dog as loud as you can sounds stupid i know. But when they snap round to see a psycho barking, face plant on the curb side really cheered me up lol. Evil You are correct . It is evil . And Stupid " Not beeing able to read road markings or stay in a provided lane for there own safety i consider stupid aswel | |||
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"When I'm on the road i try not to be a cunt. I recommend some of you try this yourself. " Exactly .. act line a cunt.. treated like a cunt | |||
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"Just do what I do in the lorry go past then pull straight in front causes a drag for them then go slow speed up go slow haha" Are you surprised so many people don't like cyclists? | |||
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"When I'm on the road i try not to be a cunt. I recommend some of you try this yourself. " Well said. It really is that simple | |||
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"Who started this thread? I hope they're proud of themselves!!! It's better than some couple or lady starting a ...All single guys are... type of thread. Yeah ... but they are " Single guys are better?... I like you already | |||
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"Who started this thread? I hope they're proud of themselves!!! It's better than some couple or lady starting a ...All single guys are... type of thread. Yeah ... but they are Single guys are better?... I like you already " What's not to like?? | |||
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"Just do what I do in the lorry go past then pull straight in front causes a drag for them then go slow speed up go slow haha Are you surprised so many people don't like cyclists?" Wtf? | |||
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"Just do what I do in the lorry go past then pull straight in front causes a drag for them then go slow speed up go slow haha" Yeah coz that's not dangerous at all is it | |||
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"If there is a line of cars at a red traffic light, and a car at the end of the line went onto the wrong side of the road, drove down and ducked into a yellow box, then drove out again and ducked infront of the first person the line. Not one single person in a car would think "oh cyclists do that too so its okay", they would be lucky if they were not dragged out of their car and beaten, or caught by a cop and given points, or caught by a camera on the yellow box and given points. But for some reason when a cyclist breaks the rules, other cyclists often say "well I seen a car break a rule once". " No . They dont . | |||
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"If there is a line of cars at a red traffic light, and a car at the end of the line went onto the wrong side of the road, drove down and ducked into a yellow box, then drove out again and ducked infront of the first person the line. Not one single person in a car would think "oh cyclists do that too so its okay", they would be lucky if they were not dragged out of their car and beaten, or caught by a cop and given points, or caught by a camera on the yellow box and given points. But for some reason when a cyclist breaks the rules, other cyclists often say "well I seen a car break a rule once". " | |||
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"If there is a line of cars at a red traffic light, and a car at the end of the line went onto the wrong side of the road, drove down and ducked into a yellow box, then drove out again and ducked infront of the first person the line. Not one single person in a car would think "oh cyclists do that too so its okay", they would be lucky if they were not dragged out of their car and beaten, or caught by a cop and given points, or caught by a camera on the yellow box and given points. But for some reason when a cyclist breaks the rules, other cyclists often say "well I seen a car break a rule once". No . They dont ." They have in this thread lol... Reread it again please. | |||
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"Instead of cyclist or motorist or biker, try human or person or people. " Or cunt and non-cunt? Hehe | |||
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"Yeah, the drivers of motorised vehicles NEVER do that. They do, and if they are caught they get penalty points, and keep doing it they get banned from driving. What happens a cyclist? But i mean if thats your excuse for them being idiots, cause they want to aim to be as good as the worst people in a car, sure, go for it. Just admit it and own it, and stop pretending like they are following some higher up rules and are good people, when they are not. Hard to argue against that. Previous posts have suggested that cyclists should have to get a license of competence, have insurance, road worthy certificate and pay some form of VED too, but they all seemed to think that was unfair for them for whatever reason which we never found out. I'm guessing most wouldn't cycle on the roads then. Level playing field would stop a lot of arguments." personally I have no objection to licensing etc, we are again blaming the victim, the penalties for cyclists tend to be injury or death, not points on your licence. But licensing would not level the playing field 2 tons of metal vs person on bike is never an equal contest. | |||
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"If there is a line of cars at a red traffic light, and a car at the end of the line went onto the wrong side of the road, drove down and ducked into a yellow box, then drove out again and ducked infront of the first person the line. Not one single person in a car would think "oh cyclists do that too so its okay", they would be lucky if they were not dragged out of their car and beaten, or caught by a cop and given points, or caught by a camera on the yellow box and given points. But for some reason when a cyclist breaks the rules, other cyclists often say "well I seen a car break a rule once". " You do realise that the situation you just described is perfectly legal for someone riding a bike? That's why traffic lights have the box for cyclists to get into at the front of the queue. | |||
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"If there is a line of cars at a red traffic light, and a car at the end of the line went onto the wrong side of the road, drove down and ducked into a yellow box, then drove out again and ducked infront of the first person the line. Not one single person in a car would think "oh cyclists do that too so its okay", they would be lucky if they were not dragged out of their car and beaten, or caught by a cop and given points, or caught by a camera on the yellow box and given points. But for some reason when a cyclist breaks the rules, other cyclists often say "well I seen a car break a rule once". No . They dont . They have in this thread lol... Reread it again please." You said ," other cyclists often say " . I'm simply saying they dont often say that. The argument was we all are guilty at times of being a dick . | |||
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"Instead of cyclist or motorist or biker, try human or person or people. " So we're back to the old ...don't like labels topic again? How does one identify different behavioural patterns being discussed? It's not the bike, car or motorcycle but as I said much earlier it's the person using them, there is however a pattern of behaviour by the user's that's being discussed, Hense using human, person or people wouldn't help much I feel. However I could easily be wrong. | |||
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"If there is a line of cars at a red traffic light, and a car at the end of the line went onto the wrong side of the road, drove down and ducked into a yellow box, then drove out again and ducked infront of the first person the line. Not one single person in a car would think "oh cyclists do that too so its okay", they would be lucky if they were not dragged out of their car and beaten, or caught by a cop and given points, or caught by a camera on the yellow box and given points. But for some reason when a cyclist breaks the rules, other cyclists often say "well I seen a car break a rule once". No . They dont . They have in this thread lol... Reread it again please." Where's the rule that cyclists & bikers can't cut thru traffic? | |||
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"Instead of cyclist or motorist or biker, try human or person or people. Or cunt and non-cunt? Hehe" Haha . Love this | |||
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"When I'm on the road i try not to be a cunt. I recommend some of you try this yourself. " Never,i road for years on my bike Always courtious to the drivers Would mount the curb to avoid holding up a que behind, would hug the roadside so not to be in the way bumb over the grids and pot holes, there really is no reason for one to be in the way. So when i see a cunt in middle of the road And i bark the fucker to the curb Who is the cunt? | |||
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"When I'm on the road i try not to be a cunt. I recommend some of you try this yourself. Never,i road for years on my bike Always courtious to the drivers Would mount the curb to avoid holding up a que behind, would hug the roadside so not to be in the way bumb over the grids and pot holes, there really is no reason for one to be in the way. So when i see a cunt in middle of the road And i bark the fucker to the curb Who is the cunt?" Hopefully not mount the curb and ride along the footpath of course | |||
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"If there is a line of cars at a red traffic light, and a car at the end of the line went onto the wrong side of the road, drove down and ducked into a yellow box, then drove out again and ducked infront of the first person the line. Not one single person in a car would think "oh cyclists do that too so its okay", they would be lucky if they were not dragged out of their car and beaten, or caught by a cop and given points, or caught by a camera on the yellow box and given points. But for some reason when a cyclist breaks the rules, other cyclists often say "well I seen a car break a rule once". No . They dont . They have in this thread lol... Reread it again please. You said ," other cyclists often say " . I'm simply saying they dont often say that. The argument was we all are guilty at times of being a dick ." I think you were referring to previous poster and not me on that quote. | |||
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"Instead of cyclist or motorist or biker, try human or person or people. Or cunt and non-cunt? Hehe Haha . Love this " Ty ... I try to defuse | |||
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"If there is a line of cars at a red traffic light, and a car at the end of the line went onto the wrong side of the road, drove down and ducked into a yellow box, then drove out again and ducked infront of the first person the line. Not one single person in a car would think "oh cyclists do that too so its okay", they would be lucky if they were not dragged out of their car and beaten, or caught by a cop and given points, or caught by a camera on the yellow box and given points. But for some reason when a cyclist breaks the rules, other cyclists often say "well I seen a car break a rule once". " I think that’s just showing the “being a cunt” rule rather than the “being a cyclist “ rule | |||
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"When I'm on the road i try not to be a cunt. I recommend some of you try this yourself. Never,i road for years on my bike Always courtious to the drivers Would mount the curb to avoid holding up a que behind, would hug the roadside so not to be in the way bumb over the grids and pot holes, there really is no reason for one to be in the way. So when i see a cunt in middle of the road And i bark the fucker to the curb Who is the cunt?" You realise they have every right to be in the middle of their lane? And you should give as much overtaking space as you would a another car? | |||
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"When I'm on the road i try not to be a cunt. I recommend some of you try this yourself. Never,i road for years on my bike Always courtious to the drivers Would mount the curb to avoid holding up a que behind, would hug the roadside so not to be in the way bumb over the grids and pot holes, there really is no reason for one to be in the way. So when i see a cunt in middle of the road And i bark the fucker to the curb Who is the cunt? Hopefully not mount the curb and ride along the footpath of course " yes just kick em out of the way dont you, i mean they have no form of transport, losers # stir it sir | |||
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"Instead of cyclist or motorist or biker, try human or person or people. " Or child, daughter, son, wife, husband, auntie, uncle, gran or grandad! It’s peoples life’s ffs!!! It’s nice to be nice! Don’t drive like a cunt. | |||
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"When I'm on the road i try not to be a cunt. I recommend some of you try this yourself. Never,i road for years on my bike Always courtious to the drivers Would mount the curb to avoid holding up a que behind, would hug the roadside so not to be in the way bumb over the grids and pot holes, there really is no reason for one to be in the way. So when i see a cunt in middle of the road And i bark the fucker to the curb Who is the cunt? Hopefully not mount the curb and ride along the footpath of course yes just kick em out of the way dont you, i mean they have no form of transport, losers # stir it sir" Huh? | |||
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"If there is a line of cars at a red traffic light, and a car at the end of the line went onto the wrong side of the road, drove down and ducked into a yellow box, then drove out again and ducked infront of the first person the line. Not one single person in a car would think "oh cyclists do that too so its okay", they would be lucky if they were not dragged out of their car and beaten, or caught by a cop and given points, or caught by a camera on the yellow box and given points. But for some reason when a cyclist breaks the rules, other cyclists often say "well I seen a car break a rule once". No . They dont . They have in this thread lol... Reread it again please. Where's the rule that cyclists & bikers can't cut thru traffic? " There isn't, but it's a practice which has its dangers and that's one of the main points in this (take responsibility for one's own dangerous road behaviour and try not to blame the motorist for cyclists acting with disregard. | |||
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"When I'm on the road i try not to be a cunt. I recommend some of you try this yourself. Never,i road for years on my bike Always courtious to the drivers Would mount the curb to avoid holding up a que behind, would hug the roadside so not to be in the way bumb over the grids and pot holes, there really is no reason for one to be in the way. So when i see a cunt in middle of the road And i bark the fucker to the curb Who is the cunt? You realise they have every right to be in the middle of their lane? And you should give as much overtaking space as you would a another car?" | |||
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"Just do what I do in the lorry go past then pull straight in front causes a drag for them then go slow speed up go slow haha Are you surprised so many people don't like cyclists? Wtf?" I misread that. I thought he meant he was on a bike slowing down lorries. | |||
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"When I'm on the road i try not to be a cunt. I recommend some of you try this yourself. Never,i road for years on my bike Always courtious to the drivers Would mount the curb to avoid holding up a que behind, would hug the roadside so not to be in the way bumb over the grids and pot holes, there really is no reason for one to be in the way. So when i see a cunt in middle of the road And i bark the fucker to the curb Who is the cunt? You realise they have every right to be in the middle of their lane? And you should give as much overtaking space as you would a another car? " yes they have every right to be in there cycle lane or we can share , yes i said it share the highway as in move your fukin bike out the road | |||
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"When I'm on the road i try not to be a cunt. I recommend some of you try this yourself. Never,i road for years on my bike Always courtious to the drivers Would mount the curb to avoid holding up a que behind, would hug the roadside so not to be in the way bumb over the grids and pot holes, there really is no reason for one to be in the way. So when i see a cunt in middle of the road And i bark the fucker to the curb Who is the cunt? You realise they have every right to be in the middle of their lane? And you should give as much overtaking space as you would a another car? yes they have every right to be in there cycle lane or we can share , yes i said it share the highway as in move your fukin bike out the road" You are joking arent you ?? | |||
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"When I'm on the road i try not to be a cunt. I recommend some of you try this yourself. Never,i road for years on my bike Always courtious to the drivers Would mount the curb to avoid holding up a que behind, would hug the roadside so not to be in the way bumb over the grids and pot holes, there really is no reason for one to be in the way. So when i see a cunt in middle of the road And i bark the fucker to the curb Who is the cunt? You realise they have every right to be in the middle of their lane? And you should give as much overtaking space as you would a another car? yes they have every right to be in there cycle lane or we can share , yes i said it share the highway as in move your fukin bike out the road" *checks the definition of share in the dictionary* ... hmm ... no ... no ... nope... can't find that version of the definition | |||
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"When I'm on the road i try not to be a cunt. I recommend some of you try this yourself. Never,i road for years on my bike Always courtious to the drivers Would mount the curb to avoid holding up a que behind, would hug the roadside so not to be in the way bumb over the grids and pot holes, there really is no reason for one to be in the way. So when i see a cunt in middle of the road And i bark the fucker to the curb Who is the cunt? You realise they have every right to be in the middle of their lane? And you should give as much overtaking space as you would a another car? yes they have every right to be in there cycle lane or we can share , yes i said it share the highway as in move your fukin bike out the road" Where they are legally entitled to take the middle of the lane position. You as a driver are not entitled to intimidate them. | |||
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"Poor cyclist. Go on the road, people bitch at you. Go on the footpath, people bitch at you. " Ah .. one's legal so people shouldn't bitch, the other isn't so pedestrians have every right to bitch, unless it is a designated cyclepath | |||
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"When I'm on the road i try not to be a cunt. I recommend some of you try this yourself. Never,i road for years on my bike Always courtious to the drivers Would mount the curb to avoid holding up a que behind, would hug the roadside so not to be in the way bumb over the grids and pot holes, there really is no reason for one to be in the way. So when i see a cunt in middle of the road And i bark the fucker to the curb Who is the cunt? You realise they have every right to be in the middle of their lane? And you should give as much overtaking space as you would a another car? yes they have every right to be in there cycle lane or we can share , yes i said it share the highway as in move your fukin bike out the road *checks the definition of share in the dictionary* ... hmm ... no ... no ... nope... can't find that version of the definition" its in mancunian dictionary, Along side fookofmate wich means see you later pal hope you have a nice day | |||
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"I've never had a cyclist give me trouble but then I give them room and respect them " Any person on the road can and has given trouble at some point deliberately or unknowingly. Some by their actions some by not paying attention, it's part of road life. It's the behaviour, agressive or passive agression and pretending it's others that are responsible that lead to the issues debated. | |||
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"I've never had a cyclist give me trouble but then I give them room and respect them Any person on the road can and has given trouble at some point deliberately or unknowingly. Some by their actions some by not paying attention, it's part of road life. It's the behaviour, agressive or passive agression and pretending it's others that are responsible that lead to the issues debated." Iv been cycling a lot of years and igree all road users make the odd error from time to time. I'll admit when I was a lot younger I made some stupid moves on the roads fortunately I got to live to tell the tale and nothing happened to the other road users | |||
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"Cars kill, bikes and their riders crush be frustrated sure or develop patience and take your time ,it's not going to change cyclists have been here hundreds of years and long may they continue " Not sure saying hundreds of years is quite accurate the 'safety bicycle' that is the basic form of modern bikes ie: 2 wheels the same size and driven by a chain was actually invented in 1885. So its actually 134 years old rather than hundreds. In fact 1886 is regarded as the birth year of the modern car when German inventor Karl Benz first patented his Benz Patent-Motorwagen. So cars and bicycles have been around for virtually the same time. | |||
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"If there is a line of cars at a red traffic light, and a car at the end of the line went onto the wrong side of the road, drove down and ducked into a yellow box, then drove out again and ducked infront of the first person the line. Not one single person in a car would think "oh cyclists do that too so its okay", they would be lucky if they were not dragged out of their car and beaten, or caught by a cop and given points, or caught by a camera on the yellow box and given points. But for some reason when a cyclist breaks the rules, other cyclists often say "well I seen a car break a rule once". No . They dont . They have in this thread lol... Reread it again please. Where's the rule that cyclists & bikers can't cut thru traffic? There isn't, but it's a practice which has its dangers and that's one of the main points in this (take responsibility for one's own dangerous road behaviour and try not to blame the motorist for cyclists acting with disregard." Fully agree, not illegal but you take your own chances without endangering others. However in previous posts it seems some cannot tell the difference between carving through & mostly around traffic at a pace of ones own choosing and maybe being close to cars & being close passed in flowing traffic at a speed & proximity of the drivers choosing, if that seems the same thing then it explains a lot. | |||
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"I ride a bike everywhere I go and I see idiots on bikes and idiots in cars all day everyday, I can't say either is more idiotic than the other......" Me too. The idiots on this thread are easy to spot though | |||
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"All you drivers moaning about cyclists. You’d hate me in real life. I may hold your journey up by a few seconds but I’m not polluting the earth on my way to and from work Just in every other second of your western existance Whereas people in the East don’t pollute the Earth whatsoever! " Oh im sory "first world" existance. Happier? | |||
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"I (mr) ride a bike and at other times, an estate car for work with the tools of my trade. When I’m driving cyclists can be annoying, and vice versa. Nothing to really get mad about either way. But that time I was verbally abused by some horsey riding hunting people, when on my bike, for not having a bell to warn them was a bit much. The joys of traffic stories endlessly abound." Why did you take your bell off in the first place? Every bike sold by law has to have a bell fitted | |||
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"Lazy thread. It’s like me saying people who just go on about going to the gym are really boring and tedious. Oh, they are. " Tame, Shag, Shag, Tame. | |||
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"If there is a line of cars at a red traffic light, and a car at the end of the line went onto the wrong side of the road, drove down and ducked into a yellow box, then drove out again and ducked infront of the first person the line. Not one single person in a car would think "oh cyclists do that too so its okay", they would be lucky if they were not dragged out of their car and beaten, or caught by a cop and given points, or caught by a camera on the yellow box and given points. But for some reason when a cyclist breaks the rules, other cyclists often say "well I seen a car break a rule once". No . They dont . They have in this thread lol... Reread it again please. Where's the rule that cyclists & bikers can't cut thru traffic? There isn't, but it's a practice which has its dangers and that's one of the main points in this (take responsibility for one's own dangerous road behaviour and try not to blame the motorist for cyclists acting with disregard." Tbf filtering is a safety technique. Cyclists and bikers dont have crumple zones so waiting at the back of a queue can be very dangerous. Quick example how many drivers when in a stationay queue turn your wheels towards the curb? Entering rhe yellow box or running the red is just down right illegal and wrong thouhh | |||
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"Cars kill, bikes and their riders crush be frustrated sure or develop patience and take your time ,it's not going to change cyclists have been here hundreds of years and long may they continue Not sure saying hundreds of years is quite accurate the 'safety bicycle' that is the basic form of modern bikes ie: 2 wheels the same size and driven by a chain was actually invented in 1885. So its actually 134 years old rather than hundreds. In fact 1886 is regarded as the birth year of the modern car when German inventor Karl Benz first patented his Benz Patent-Motorwagen. So cars and bicycles have been around for virtually the same time." penny farthing lad cmon it's famous ,saw a guy on one the other day | |||
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"If its safest for a motorbike or bicycle to take the whole road, then why do they filter through traffic? Why do they ignore the advice themselves when it suits them, and follow it when it suits them? Thats the main problem with them. They are inconsistent, they quote rules to suit themselves, they follow rules in a haphazard way, they are unpredictable, they make the road dangerous for you as you have to give them more attention than other road users." It's called defensive driving. Often on narrower roads if theres a park car on the far side is is sensible to ride near the central white line om the right of your lane. This forces any oncoming cars to wait and stop behind the parked car rather than trying to squeeze past. As fuck knows how good thier aim is. Filtering is a safety feature as a rear end in traffic is essentially a death sentence and again your in control so it's your risk. You arent relying on some random car driver to not drift. | |||
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