A entertainer/theatrical artist or a tax dodger ?
"Lorraine Kelly has won a row over a £1.2m tax bill, after a judge ruled she was not employed by ITV, but performs as her "chatty" TV persona"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-47648053 |
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"A entertainer/theatrical artist or a tax dodger ?
"Lorraine Kelly has won a row over a £1.2m tax bill, after a judge ruled she was not employed by ITV, but performs as her "chatty" TV persona"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-47648053"
You can buy a lot of quiche with £1.2m. |
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
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I briefly heard this on the taxi radio just now; without having looked into it further - is it suggesting she’s a bit “fake” saying she’s performing within her role, or implying she’s a “brand” - I can’t quite work out if she should feel a bit snubbed or a bit ego boosted!!
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I’d give her one!
Oh....sorry, that wasn’t the question 
Don't be embarrassed. I'd give Lorraine Kelly a tax rebate too."
I'd love to pork Loraraine Kelly. I bet she's reet filthy as she's telling me to poon her arse in her Scottish accent |
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She is saying that the "chatty character" she plays on TV is NOT actually her real self. So the £1.2 Million she gets contracted for isn't the "real" LK's income. It is the "chatty character" she portrays on TV for ITV. In effect she is telling the Taxman to chase after the fictional character she portrays on TV.
She should be imprisoned for tax-fraud.
While she is there she should type in 'Lorraine Kelly nude' into a search engine and check the set on Xham. The ones of a younger LK are really real. Been floating around for years but it is sometimes good to remember when you were young.  |
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"She is saying that the "chatty character" she plays on TV is NOT actually her real self. So the £1.2 Million she gets contracted for isn't the "real" LK's income. It is the "chatty character" she portrays on TV for ITV. In effect she is telling the Taxman to chase after the fictional character she portrays on TV.
She should be imprisoned for tax-fraud.
While she is there she should type in 'Lorraine Kelly nude' into a search engine and check the set on Xham. The ones of a younger LK are really real. Been floating around for years but it is sometimes good to remember when you were young. "
How does that even work? Do actors not pay tax then? |
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"She is saying that the "chatty character" she plays on TV is NOT actually her real self. So the £1.2 Million she gets contracted for isn't the "real" LK's income. It is the "chatty character" she portrays on TV for ITV. In effect she is telling the Taxman to chase after the fictional character she portrays on TV.
She should be imprisoned for tax-fraud.
While she is there she should type in 'Lorraine Kelly nude' into a search engine and check the set on Xham. The ones of a younger LK are really real. Been floating around for years but it is sometimes good to remember when you were young.
How does that even work? Do actors not pay tax then?"
That is why it is in court.
I have no choice. My tax is removed at source through PAYE.
Lorraine Kelly will be contracted and shunt her money overseas through a tax dodging set-up while we mugs pay for everything. The Taxman then has to drag LK to court and LK claims she isn't an employee but just goes on ITV as a "chatty character" and that the money paid to her parent company is just a nominal fee to cover admin costs. When the taxman chases THAT company (based in the Seychelles or somewhere) it will sub-divide and shatter into a hundred sub-investment accounts which the taxman cannot chase. Lorraine is laughing at us mugs.
That is how it works. 
TRUE. |
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"She is saying that the "chatty character" she plays on TV is NOT actually her real self. So the £1.2 Million she gets contracted for isn't the "real" LK's income. It is the "chatty character" she portrays on TV for ITV. In effect she is telling the Taxman to chase after the fictional character she portrays on TV.
She should be imprisoned for tax-fraud.
While she is there she should type in 'Lorraine Kelly nude' into a search engine and check the set on Xham. The ones of a younger LK are really real. Been floating around for years but it is sometimes good to remember when you were young.
How does that even work? Do actors not pay tax then?"
she does pay tax just not the amount they say |
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"She is saying that the "chatty character" she plays on TV is NOT actually her real self. So the £1.2 Million she gets contracted for isn't the "real" LK's income. It is the "chatty character" she portrays on TV for ITV. In effect she is telling the Taxman to chase after the fictional character she portrays on TV.
She should be imprisoned for tax-fraud.
While she is there she should type in 'Lorraine Kelly nude' into a search engine and check the set on Xham. The ones of a younger LK are really real. Been floating around for years but it is sometimes good to remember when you were young.
How does that even work? Do actors not pay tax then?she does pay tax just not the amount they say"
She will NOT pay ANY UK tax on the money paid to her "LK" overseas (Seychelles or wherever) Company who recieve the "consultancy contracted" fees from ITV.
She will pay NO tax on that. That is exactly what she is sticking to. That is why the Taxman has taken her to court.
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"She is saying that the "chatty character" she plays on TV is NOT actually her real self. So the £1.2 Million she gets contracted for isn't the "real" LK's income. It is the "chatty character" she portrays on TV for ITV. In effect she is telling the Taxman to chase after the fictional character she portrays on TV.
She should be imprisoned for tax-fraud.
While she is there she should type in 'Lorraine Kelly nude' into a search engine and check the set on Xham. The ones of a younger LK are really real. Been floating around for years but it is sometimes good to remember when you were young.
How does that even work? Do actors not pay tax then?
That is why it is in court.
I have no choice. My tax is removed at source through PAYE.
Lorraine Kelly will be contracted and shunt her money overseas through a tax dodging set-up while we mugs pay for everything. The Taxman then has to drag LK to court and LK claims she isn't an employee but just goes on ITV as a "chatty character" and that the money paid to her parent company is just a nominal fee to cover admin costs. When the taxman chases THAT company (based in the Seychelles or somewhere) it will sub-divide and shatter into a hundred sub-investment accounts which the taxman cannot chase. Lorraine is laughing at us mugs.
That is how it works.
TRUE."
Oh. I know someone who does similar and he's not famous,just had a creative accountant so perhaps dont get bitter just get better is the takeaway? |
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Judge Dean said: "We did not accept that Ms Kelly simply appeared as herself - we were satisfied that Ms Kelly presents a persona of herself, she presents herself as a brand and that is the brand ITV sought when engaging her. All parts of the show are a performance, the act being to perform the role of a friendly, chatty and fun personality. Quite simply put, the programmes are entertaining, Ms Kelly is entertaining and the 'DNA' referred to is the personality, performance, the 'Lorraine Kelly' brand that is brought to the programmes.
She added: "We should make clear we do not doubt that Ms Kelly is an entertaining lady but the point is that for the time Ms Kelly is contracted to perform live on air she is public 'Lorraine Kelly'. She may not like the guest she interviews, she may not like the food she eats, she may not like the film she viewed but that is where the performance lies."
So her defence against paying ANy tax is that the fees paid to heroverseas tax-avoidance company are for a "performance" which are not actually "herself" ie. she might not like the guest she is interviewing, but she smiles for the camera and performs.
This, in effect means that Lorraine Kelly "herself" is not taxable for the "performance" side.
Can you grasp what she is claiming here. This is only round one. For 900,00 owed to HMRC for 2016. She has paid NOT A PENNY of tax in this time for her ITV income - make NO mistake. This is hardball tax-evasion. |
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"If we all did this there would be no NHS, Schools or Britain. LK is a disgrace and her show should be boycotted."
I do get what you are saying and I do agree with you but surely the focus should be on making the law makers close loopholes that are being exploited? |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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It's an interesting ruling. I was reading about it yesterday and it struck me that HMRC don't quite understand their own rules on this.
Her 'character' on 'Lorraine' might be questionable but the other work she does is consistent with the 'character' but is not being a talk show host. The adverts are annoying. The work on other channels can be seen as 'in character' but it's not for the same employer.
I think the whole thing needs a revamp as small sole traders are losing out but larger earners are able to game the new rules.
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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Lorraine Kelly will be contracted and shunt her money overseas through a tax dodging set-up while we mugs pay for everything. The Taxman then has to drag LK to court and LK claims she isn't an employee but just goes on ITV as a "chatty character" and that the money paid to her parent company is just a nominal fee to cover admin costs. When the taxman chases THAT company (based in the Seychelles or somewhere) it will sub-divide and shatter into a hundred sub-investment accounts which the taxman cannot chase. Lorraine is laughing at us mugs.
That is how it works.
TRUE."
Where did it say it is based in the Seychelles or somewhere? |
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"From what I can make out, her and her husband have a company and contract her out as a presenter/ annoying person. They still pay tax on any earnings they declare."
But she claims they are not "earnings" and that she isn't working for ITV. Despite doing a show every day. And she doedn't work for the company which gets the money from ITV for her appearances. Therefore she isn't due to pay anything because none of what that money is is actually "earnings" or "paynebt" for work done.
So says greedy, Uber-rich Lorraine Kelly. Remeber this is over a £1.2 Million bill from 2015/16. She hasn't paid A PENNY for that year or any year since.
Disgusting tax-evader. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"We'd all do it if we could. Stop with the virtue signalling hypocrisy"
I absolutely wouldn't. I want a fully funded NHS and education system. I want investment into our country's infrastructure and genuinely affordable housing. A new wave of renewable energy and technology investment. We need tax receipts for that, starting with closing loopholes exploited by Starbucks, Google and Lorraine Kelly etc. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I bet she said " sure sure" and "we like" a lot when the ruling came in, she is an annoying interviewer who likes only the sound of her own voice"
I cant stand her either |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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No different to me being a contractor and my earnings being paid into a private LTD company then issuing profits as dividends. Perfectly legal and I pay a lot less tax because of it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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She's a brand, whether you like her or not that's what she's created. I can understand the ruling although it seems a little bit of a cop out.
I don't get why she's popular but she's not meant to appeal to me. |
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What I despise about the tax system is if you earn over a certain amount the coffers want over 1/2 of it.
If you earn say a million and pay the std 22% that's still a shit load of cash going into the system.
She is basically self employed so with a good accountant deserves to make the most coin.
Also at 59 I'd definitely call her mommy! |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"From what I can make out, her and her husband have a company and contract her out as a presenter/ annoying person. They still pay tax on any earnings they declare.
But she claims they are not "earnings" and that she isn't working for ITV. work done.
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Technically it doesn't sound like she is, she is working for the company that he and her husband have. That company contract out her to ITV as a freelance, ITV pay the company the contract fees, then the company will pay her wages. She will then pay tax that way. |
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By *ugby 123Couple
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"No different to me being a contractor and my earnings being paid into a private LTD company then issuing profits as dividends. Perfectly legal and I pay a lot less tax because of it."
This is how I read she is doing...all perfectly legal |
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