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Why are Europeans always the heroes?
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I just finished watching the last Samurai and I just realized Tom Cruise was the last samurai...
Then I realized Hawkeye was the last of the Mohicans and Tarzan was the biggest hero in Africa.....
Can anyone Enlighten me on this phenomenon?
I think I know the answer I would just like people’s opinions . |
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Various reasons.
Because Tom Cruise or Daniel Day or the Tarzan guy are/were popular actors who can sell a film/ bring in an audience/ bring in the dollars.
Because these films were made at a time when thinking outside the box and getting someone "authentic" wasn't even a consideration.
And because at the end of the day Hollywood is still run by white guys to make money from people who (by and large and as box office dollar attests) still prefer films about white guys.
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"Various reasons.
Because Tom Cruise or Daniel Day or the Tarzan guy are/were popular actors who can sell a film/ bring in an audience/ bring in the dollars.
Because these films were made at a time when thinking outside the box and getting someone "authentic" wasn't even a consideration.
And because at the end of the day Hollywood is still run by white guys to make money from people who (by and large and as box office dollar attests) still prefer films about white guys.
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Amen sister - Hollywood has a long and dubious history of choosing not who may be best at portraying a given leading role, but rather which actor is presently most popular and subsequently bankable.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Basically it's always the Ruskies that are made out to be the bad guys with their henchmen. All hell breaks loose, then good guy runs off with fit babe.
#jamesbondworld"
Didn't see casino royale then |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Black panther did pretty well
Although I'm fairly bored of the marvel films, tend to like ambiguous ones if I'm honest, don't see many thought provoking ones though  |
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"Basically it's always the Ruskies that are made out to be the bad guys with their henchmen. All hell breaks loose, then good guy runs off with fit babe.
#jamesbondworld"
Honestly it’s always the Muslim boogie man that’s the villain now a days....
It’s becoming so predictable.... I’ve stop watching most action movies... |
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"Basically it's always the Ruskies that are made out to be the bad guys with their henchmen. All hell breaks loose, then good guy runs off with fit babe.
#jamesbondworld
Honestly it’s always the Muslim boogie man that’s the villain now a days....
It’s becoming so predictable.... I’ve stop watching most action movies..."
It matters little about their religious beliefs, but the main thing is if they can do a convincing foreign accent, even I can walk like an Egyptian ffs  |
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"I just finished watching the last Samurai and I just realized Tom Cruise was the last samurai...
Then I realized Hawkeye was the last of the Mohicans and Tarzan was the biggest hero in Africa.....
Can anyone Enlighten me on this phenomenon?
I think I know the answer I would just like people’s opinions ."
Tom Cruise wasn't the last samurai though. It was the story of a European who met the Last Samurai, Katsumoto and went on to study with him.
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"Is it the same in China, Argentina or Nigeria? If you watch a film from those countries, do they "always have" a European hero?
Now now Clem....that makes too much sense  "
I fear you might be right. What a load of Bollywoods... |
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"I just finished watching the last Samurai and I just realized Tom Cruise was the last samurai...
Then I realized Hawkeye was the last of the Mohicans and Tarzan was the biggest hero in Africa.....
Can anyone Enlighten me on this phenomenon?
I think I know the answer I would just like people’s opinions ."
Tom Cruise is American is he not? |
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"I just finished watching the last Samurai and I just realized Tom Cruise was the last samurai...
Then I realized Hawkeye was the last of the Mohicans and Tarzan was the biggest hero in Africa.....
Can anyone Enlighten me on this phenomenon?
I think I know the answer I would just like people’s opinions ."
La Longe Carabine or Hawkeye as you call him wasn't a Mohican
The Tarzan books were a reaction to the Victorian notion that 'modern' industrial man was physically (and hence morally) weak and a long way from the physical prowess ideal embodied in the Ancient Greeks. The beginning of the modern Olympic Movement was another example of this fear. |
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"I just finished watching the last Samurai and I just realized Tom Cruise was the last samurai...
Then I realized Hawkeye was the last of the Mohicans and Tarzan was the biggest hero in Africa.....
Can anyone Enlighten me on this phenomenon?
I think I know the answer I would just like people’s opinions .Tom Cruise is American is he not? "
I think the OP ment White European heritage |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Safe, formulaic pap that pleases Americans and others but especially doesn't shas much risk for film financing.
And the racist worldview shown by Trump is alive in many still"
Or ya know we just like to envision ourselves as the hero...
Hollywood is an industry with a majority white european audiance of course the majority or characters or going to embody that...
As a poster above said the bollywood amd Nigerian film industries do not have very many white faces |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Is it the same in China, Argentina or Nigeria? If you watch a film from those countries, do they "always have" a European hero?"
My dear Clem ...... Argentinaian films will have European heroes my friend....
Remember this is the country most of the Nazi’s went to after WW2... so they have a large population of people derived from German and Italian heritage....
I’m sorry I can’t comment about films from Nigeria or China.. |
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"Is it the same in China, Argentina or Nigeria? If you watch a film from those countries, do they "always have" a European hero?
My dear Clem ...... Argentinaian films will have European heroes my friend....
Remember this is the country most of the Nazi’s went to after WW2... so they have a large population of people derived from German and Italian heritage....
I’m sorry I can’t comment about films from Nigeria or China.. "
So do you think there should be more Europeans in Bollywood films?
Do you think the Chinese should stop making films with Chinese people in them as hero's? Or do you just have a chip on your shoulder about Europeans in European films? |
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It's almost like Hollywood just wants to make money by casting white dudes in lead roles - haven't they heard of political correctness? James Bond should be Jane Bond and be portrayed by a one-legged black lesbian in a wheelchair. That'll get bums on seats |
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"It's almost like Hollywood just wants to make money by casting white dudes in lead roles - haven't they heard of political correctness? James Bond should be Jane Bond and be portrayed by a one-legged black lesbian in a wheelchair. That'll get bums on seats "
It worked well when they did it for Ghostbusters. What a blockbuster smash that film was. |
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"I just finished watching the last Samurai and I just realized Tom Cruise was the last samurai...
Then I realized Hawkeye was the last of the Mohicans and Tarzan was the biggest hero in Africa.....
Can anyone Enlighten me on this phenomenon?
I think I know the answer I would just like people’s opinions ."
Hollywood bias, basically.
Americans, rather than Europeans, are usually the heroes. |
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"I just finished watching the last Samurai and I just realized Tom Cruise was the last samurai...
Then I realized Hawkeye was the last of the Mohicans and Tarzan was the biggest hero in Africa.....
Can anyone Enlighten me on this phenomenon?
I think I know the answer I would just like people’s opinions .
Hollywood bias, basically.
Americans, rather than Europeans, are usually the heroes. "
U571  |
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"I just finished watching the last Samurai and I just realized Tom Cruise was the last samurai...
Then I realized Hawkeye was the last of the Mohicans and Tarzan was the biggest hero in Africa.....
Can anyone Enlighten me on this phenomenon?
I think I know the answer I would just like people’s opinions ."
How long has Tom Cruise been European? |
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"I just finished watching the last Samurai and I just realized Tom Cruise was the last samurai...
Then I realized Hawkeye was the last of the Mohicans and Tarzan was the biggest hero in Africa.....
Can anyone Enlighten me on this phenomenon?
I think I know the answer I would just like people’s opinions .
Hollywood bias, basically.
Americans, rather than Europeans, are usually the heroes.
U571 "
And Saving Private Ryan, along with virtually every other WW2 film ever made.
Apparently the Americans won the war single handedly.  |
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"I just finished watching the last Samurai and I just realized Tom Cruise was the last samurai...
Then I realized Hawkeye was the last of the Mohicans and Tarzan was the biggest hero in Africa.....
Can anyone Enlighten me on this phenomenon?
I think I know the answer I would just like people’s opinions .
Hollywood bias, basically.
Americans, rather than Europeans, are usually the heroes.
U571
And Saving Private Ryan, along with virtually every other WW2 film ever made.
Apparently the Americans won the war single handedly. "
In fairness they played a significant role!!
Guess they make the film's to appeal to the market that's most likely to make them money regardless of accuracy. |
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"I just finished watching the last Samurai and I just realized Tom Cruise was the last samurai...
Then I realized Hawkeye was the last of the Mohicans and Tarzan was the biggest hero in Africa.....
Can anyone Enlighten me on this phenomenon?
I think I know the answer I would just like people’s opinions .Tom Cruise is American is he not?
I think the OP ment White European heritage "
ahhhh the western culture |
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"I just finished watching the last Samurai and I just realized Tom Cruise was the last samurai...
Then I realized Hawkeye was the last of the Mohicans and Tarzan was the biggest hero in Africa.....
Can anyone Enlighten me on this phenomenon?
I think I know the answer I would just like people’s opinions .
Hollywood bias, basically.
Americans, rather than Europeans, are usually the heroes.
U571
And Saving Private Ryan, along with virtually every other WW2 film ever made.
Apparently the Americans won the war single handedly.
In fairness they played a significant role!!
Guess they make the film's to appeal to the market that's most likely to make them money regardless of accuracy."
Significant meaning a 70th minute substitute that comes on and scores a penalty |
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By *imbo59seMan
over a year ago
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"I just finished watching the last Samurai and I just realized Tom Cruise was the last samurai...
Then I realized Hawkeye was the last of the Mohicans and Tarzan was the biggest hero in Africa.....
Can anyone Enlighten me on this phenomenon?
I think I know the answer I would just like people’s opinions ."
The last of the Mohicans was actually Uncas, after the death of Chingachgook who, I believe, was his son, hence the last of the Mohicans ! |
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I definitely think he would have made a shit James Bond anyway. 
