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"yes and im not going to tell you. lets just say i can force you to the ground by holding your wrist only and keep you there" You're giving me an erection...  | |||
"I have a black belt in tae kwon do, but if someone jumped on me while I was out I’d probably just run away as quickly as I could " first thing your taught | |||
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"yes and im not going to tell you. lets just say i can force you to the ground by holding your wrist only and keep you there" No you couldn’t. And it’s pure arrogance to assume you could. | |||
"I have a black belt in tae kwon do, but if someone jumped on me while I was out I’d probably just run away as quickly as I could " And me but I am quietly confident I can stop any would be attacker | |||
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"I have a black belt in tae kwon do, but if someone jumped on me while I was out I’d probably just run away as quickly as I could first thing your taught" A really good fast turn and sprint should be everyone’s go to. Even if you do tonnes of contact sports or traditional martial arts or MMA. Legally you can use as much force as is legal and justified. | |||
"Just a thought, but does anyone actively train anything with a view to this or have done courses in the past? I was watching some self defence videos today with some freinds and we were ......... underwhelmed but some were funny. But most as far as I could see, would just escalate an attack and were pretty crap. I appreciate that they are designed to empower and give confidence but it looked to me like they were all a bit placebo. " its both its about confidence for the potential victim but the only way to truely be prepared is to rep it over and over until its instinct and that takes months even years proplem with that is you become overly wound and potentials anyone sneaking up on you is in danger themselves | |||
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"I've done courses in physical restraint but in a professional capacity where the welfare of the attacker is also important. It seems a lot of it is luck and being in a place when you can get into the right position. Luckily I've never had to use it, I'm not confident I could do it with an actual attacker and not my placid obliging colleague I trained with. " MAPPA is very similar to the SIA escort techniques. | |||
"yes and im not going to tell you. lets just say i can force you to the ground by holding your wrist only and keep you there You're giving me an erection... " | |||
"Shouldn't this thread now be re titled 'pissing higher than you up a lamp post'..? "Why its a legit question | |||
"Just a thought, but does anyone actively train anything with a view to this or have done courses in the past? I was watching some self defence videos today with some freinds and we were ......... underwhelmed but some were funny. But most as far as I could see, would just escalate an attack and were pretty crap. I appreciate that they are designed to empower and give confidence but it looked to me like they were all a bit placebo. " I think there's a lot to be said for placebo effects in all areas of life. Like when out and about, I think feeling and looking confident can go some way towards keeping you safe. | |||
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"I have a black belt in tae kwon do, but if someone jumped on me while I was out I’d probably just run away as quickly as I could And me but I am quietly confident I can stop any would be attacker " Quiet confidence would probably get you stabbed tbh | |||
"Just a thought, but does anyone actively train anything with a view to this or have done courses in the past? I was watching some self defence videos today with some freinds and we were ......... underwhelmed but some were funny. But most as far as I could see, would just escalate an attack and were pretty crap. I appreciate that they are designed to empower and give confidence but it looked to me like they were all a bit placebo. its both its about confidence for the potential victim but the only way to truely be prepared is to rep it over and over until its instinct and that takes months even years proplem with that is you become overly wound and potentials anyone sneaking up on you is in danger themselves" There is also the thought of you train realistically for realistic threats at a level of aggression that would be needed to deal with a real, committed attacker, you would be constantly injuring and hurting yourselves. | |||
"There’s some truly hilariously bad techniques being taught out there. ‘So....if attacked with a snooker cue, punch it in half firstly before throwing it up into the air and then pull your attacker forward and watch the broken cue fall back down and impale your attacker...’ "Sounds like Deadpool. | |||
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"Shouldn't this thread now be re titled 'pissing higher than you up a lamp post'..?
Why its a legit question"absolutely it is yes.. as to why, well just read it and it obvious.. same old same old.. | |||
"I have a black belt in tae kwon do, but if someone jumped on me while I was out I’d probably just run away as quickly as I could And me but I am quietly confident I can stop any would be attacker Quiet confidence would probably get you stabbed tbh" I advocate the running away waving your hands in the air whilst squealing like a piglet and dropping your wallet on the way method. | |||
"Shouldn't this thread now be re titled 'pissing higher than you up a lamp post'..? "If it was a pissing contest I’d have said list your belts, grades, biceps size etc | |||
"Shouldn't this thread now be re titled 'pissing higher than you up a lamp post'..?
If it was a pissing contest I’d have said list your belts, grades, biceps size etc "or lower the lamp post..  | |||
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"Just a thought, but does anyone actively train anything with a view to this or have done courses in the past? I was watching some self defence videos today with some freinds and we were ......... underwhelmed but some were funny. But most as far as I could see, would just escalate an attack and were pretty crap. I appreciate that they are designed to empower and give confidence but it looked to me like they were all a bit placebo. its both its about confidence for the potential victim but the only way to truely be prepared is to rep it over and over until its instinct and that takes months even years proplem with that is you become overly wound and potentials anyone sneaking up on you is in danger themselves There is also the thought of you train realistically for realistic threats at a level of aggression that would be needed to deal with a real, committed attacker, you would be constantly injuring and hurting yourselves. " the prices you pay to not get mugged eh lol | |||
"I'm Scouse mate ...I think everyone should just calm down " | |||
"Practicing a martial art as a sport is very different to using it to repel a spontaneous and determined attack.Action always beats reaction. Waving your willy might be a good distraction technique though... "For real I've often thought that having a nervous wank would deter an attack!  | |||
"I'm Scouse mate ...I think everyone should just calm down and hand me there wallet this is a stickup " | |||
"Practicing a martial art as a sport is very different to using it to repel a spontaneous and determined attack.Action always beats reaction. Waving your willy might be a good distraction technique though... "I think you have it totally spot on but this is a yesterday man pissing contest and the contestants are rapidly drinking as much as they can to piss higher then the next old chap | |||
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"Glasgow kiss......Job done "get ya lips off me | |||
"Practicing a martial art as a sport is very different to using it to repel a spontaneous and determined attack.Action always beats reaction. Waving your willy might be a good distraction technique though... "Krav Maga replicates scenarios but still doesn’t prepare you for real world. Like I’d have to walk in the dark past the playing fields and I knew that my instructor would jump me from behind at some point along the route. Also would have to sit in my car and have the instructor attack you through open window, holding the plastic knife to your throat, gun to your head etc. You’d train blindfolded and instructors would rub their fingers together by your eyes but then grab you from all different angles. Grappling on mats, being pinned down. They’d replicate bar brawls and riots. Obviously in prison there would be breaking up of fights, getting bladed items out of hands. I know I could kick most blokes heads in, IF I was the attacker but if I was attacked my defence if I was gonna be sexually assualted I’ve always said I’d do a turd and shove it in his mouth then snap his knee cap so he couldn’t chase after me when I ran away. | |||
"Just a thought, but does anyone actively train anything with a view to this or have done courses in the past? I was watching some self defence videos today with some freinds and we were ......... underwhelmed but some were funny. But most as far as I could see, would just escalate an attack and were pretty crap. I appreciate that they are designed to empower and give confidence but it looked to me like they were all a bit placebo. its both its about confidence for the potential victim but the only way to truely be prepared is to rep it over and over until its instinct and that takes months even years proplem with that is you become overly wound and potentials anyone sneaking up on you is in danger themselves There is also the thought of you train realistically for realistic threats at a level of aggression that would be needed to deal with a real, committed attacker, you would be constantly injuring and hurting yourselves. the prices you pay to not get mugged eh lol" Well to be fair you wouldn’t put yourself through it like that just ‘in case’ it’s got to be a thing you love to do with goals and fun and things. But if you were to look at some of the injuries and constant bruising caused by training some of the more ‘street wise’ or ‘cage effective’ or ‘full contact’ styles it’s unreal. Even some of the ‘gentle’ arts your one bad breakfall away from a month off the mats.  | |||
"I'm Scouse mate ...I think everyone should just calm down and hand me there wallet this is a stickup " and ya ma ! | |||
"I'm Scouse mate ...I think everyone should just calm down and hand me there wallet this is a stickup
and ya ma ! "Try the asda carpark | |||
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"I'm Scouse mate ...I think everyone should just calm down and hand me there wallet this is a stickup
and ya ma !
Try the asda carpark "everyone knows we scousers shop at waitrose | |||
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"I'm Scouse mate ...I think everyone should just calm down and hand me there wallet this is a stickup
and ya ma !
Try the asda carpark everyone knows we scousers shop at waitrose "Dont u mean the waitrose | |||
"I'm Scouse mate ...I think everyone should just calm down and hand me there wallet this is a stickup
and ya ma !
Try the asda carpark everyone knows we scousers shop at waitrose
Dont u mean the waitrose "Yes like the Asda la , and homes AND bargain la !.. | |||
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"I'm Scouse mate ...I think everyone should just calm down and hand me there wallet this is a stickup
and ya ma !
Try the asda carpark everyone knows we scousers shop at waitrose
Dont u mean the waitrose
Yes like the Asda la , and homes AND bargain la !.. " | |||
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"I'm Scouse mate ... everyone knows we scousers shoplift at waitrose " | |||
"I have a black belt in tae kwon do, but if someone jumped on me while I was out I’d probably just run away as quickly as I could And me but I am quietly confident I can stop any would be attacker " Loads of people could kick my head in, there’s no point in lying to myself about it. Best thing to do is put as much distance between you and them as you can as quickly as possible | |||
"I'm Scouse mate ... everyone knows we scousers shoplift at waitrose " | |||
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"I'm Scouse mate ... everyone knows we scousers shoplift at waitrose "I cant talk im off one of the roughest estates in yorkshire lol | |||
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"I did must Thai for about 15 years,hi impact not good for body,hence I swim now" Muay Thai* damn phone | |||
"I’ve been training in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu for 11 years and also train in Krav Maga for 3 years. Whilst BJJ is a sport it can be used for self defence if required but can be limited. Krav Maga is a fighting system which I prefer for self-defence" That resistive training in BJJ, and getting up fast even from under someone, closed guards, sweeps and mounts and rolling together every class do make it good if not the best for if you end up on the floor. I’m sure now if some one grabbed me to legsweep, push me over or try to throw me to the ground I’d pull guard and do the baby ground shark thing now. And hope he can’t do do doo doo doo doo  | |||
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"Many years ago now, when Bruce Lee films were first being shown, Eric Harrison a British black belt in Karate wrote a book on the subject for beginners. On one of the intro pages he tellingly wrote regarding excessive self-confidence inspired by training against the Makiwara (karate striking board): "Sticks and stones you may thwack, but they will never hit you back!" " My sensei said something similar to a newbie who asked about breaking bricks. "Why, do you often get attacked by bricks?" | |||
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"yes and im not going to tell you. lets just say i can force you to the ground by holding your wrist only and keep you there No you couldn’t. And it’s pure arrogance to assume you could. " or ignorance on yours. you dont know me so dont make assumptions on your lack of knowledge | |||
"yes and im not going to tell you. lets just say i can force you to the ground by holding your wrist only and keep you there No you couldn’t. And it’s pure arrogance to assume you could. or ignorance on yours. you dont know me so dont make assumptions on your lack of knowledge" Nor do you know me big boy | |||
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" What are your experiences OP?" Jiu Jitsu A couple of styles karate Judo Systema BJJ Kick boxing Some control and restraint training from commercial security trainers prior to the SIA. But nothing to any high level. | |||
" Calm down, calm down !!!! " | |||
" Calm down, calm down !!!! "Eh eh eh ,...calm down teh !! | |||
" Calm down, calm down !!!!
Eh eh eh ,...calm down teh !! "What’s all this? We’ll have no trouble here! This is a local forum for local people! | |||
"FIIIIIGGHHHTTT !!!! "First rule about fight club is you D O N T talk about FIIIIIGGHHHTTT club | |||
" Calm down, calm down !!!!
Eh eh eh ,...calm down teh !!
What’s all this? We’ll have no trouble here!
This is a local forum for local people!
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"FAAAAAAAABBB !!!!
First rule about fab club is you D O N T talk about FAAAAAAAABBBBBB
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" Calm down, calm down !!!!
Eh eh eh ,...calm down teh !!
What’s all this? We’ll have no trouble here!
This is a local forum for local people!
"now now tubs!! | |||
" Calm down, calm down !!!!
Eh eh eh ,...calm down teh !!
What’s all this? We’ll have no trouble here!
This is a local forum for local people!
now now tubs, you heard the man, you know what he wants!!" | |||
"I got to 2nd degree black belt in kickboxing before I had my licence taken off me in 2004. P5 grade in Krav Maga and various control and restraint training from when I was a custody officer in a male prison. I have put men twice my size on the floor and restrained them but even with what I can do I still think I’d freeze with fear if I was attacked for real, I honestly don’t know cos I’ve never been in that situation. " Why was your license takin away? | |||
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"I got to 2nd degree black belt in kickboxing before I had my licence taken off me in 2004. P5 grade in Krav Maga and various control and restraint training from when I was a custody officer in a male prison. I have put men twice my size on the floor and restrained them but even with what I can do I still think I’d freeze with fear if I was attacked for real, I honestly don’t know cos I’ve never been in that situation. Why was your license takin away? " Martial arts ‘licences’ are just association or club insurance and grading records ain’t they? | |||
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"Have you watched the Netflix series on styles of fighting around the world,it very good, actor Frank grillo travels to parts of the world, Thailand (Thai boxing),burma(lethwei)is real(krav maga) plus more,it's a great watch" Oh it's called fightworld | |||
"I really want to try Turkish oil wrestling, I think it’s got fuck all to do with self defence, but I think I’d win when they do the shorts grab, realise I’ve got a raging hard on and panic. Unless that’s normal? "I employ this very technique in Greco-Roman wrestling whenever I’m losing; You should see the instant horror and resulting resignation on my opponents faces when they feel my hard-on poking them in the side. Victory always imminently goes my way | |||
"Have you watched the Netflix series on styles of fighting around the world,it very good, actor Frank grillo travels to parts of the world, Thailand (Thai boxing),burma(lethwei)is real(krav maga) plus more,it's a great watch Oh it's called fightworld" Some of the blooper videos from mind body and kick arse moves on you tube are hilarious. | |||
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"I have a black belt in tae kwon do, but if someone jumped on me while I was out I’d probably just run away as quickly as I could " Best form of self defense x I get taught personal protection where I work but luckily have never had to use it either there or out and about. | |||
" Calm down, calm down !!!!
Eh eh eh ,...calm down teh !!
What’s all this? We’ll have no trouble here!
This is a local forum for local people!
" | |||
"I really want to try Turkish oil wrestling, I think it’s got fuck all to do with self defence, but I think I’d win when they do the shorts grab, realise I’ve got a raging hard on and panic. Unless that’s normal?
I employ this very technique in Greco-Roman wrestling whenever I’m losing; You should see the instant horror and resulting resignation on my opponents faces when they feel my hard-on poking them in the side.
Victory always imminently goes my way "I’m sure this is why baggy MMA shorts are so popular in No GI! You could always hit them with a double whammy, a hard on jabbing in their side while you oil check em! But that’s nothing to the knowledge that the guy you are triangling has your sweaty balls in his face. | |||
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"Practicing a martial art as a sport is very different to using it to repel a spontaneous and determined attack.Action always beats reaction. Waving your willy might be a good distraction technique though...
Krav Maga replicates scenarios but still doesn’t prepare you for real world.
Like I’d have to walk in the dark past the playing fields and I knew that my instructor would jump me from behind at some point along the route. Also would have to sit in my car and have the instructor attack you through open window, holding the plastic knife to your throat, gun to your head etc.
You’d train blindfolded and instructors would rub their fingers together by your eyes but then grab you from all different angles. Grappling on mats, being pinned down. They’d replicate bar brawls and riots.
Obviously in prison there would be breaking up of fights, getting bladed items out of hands.
I know I could kick most blokes heads in, IF I was the attacker but if I was attacked my defence if I was gonna be sexually assualted I’ve always said I’d do a turd and shove it in his mouth then snap his knee cap so he couldn’t chase after me when I ran away. "You can shit on demand and be quick enough to whip it out of your pants to shove it in his mouth? That's fairly impressive. Why not just snap his knee cap?! | |||
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"I used to cage fight. I’ve studied a few forms of martial arts, most are pointless if you get into a real street fight. Wrestling and boxing are probably the most useful. " 90% of street fights end up on the floor so you are probably right | |||
"I've been watching a lot of Ramon Dekkers videos on YouTube lately,1st European to go to Thailand and kick their ass, seriously this guy was a human dynamo" Was he before Andy Huggs? Might of spelt that wrong but he was a kuyokushin guy from Sweden who did well in K1 and against Thai fighters in the 90’s | |||
"I've been watching a lot of Ramon Dekkers videos on YouTube lately,1st European to go to Thailand and kick their ass, seriously this guy was a human dynamo" The diamond.....Outstanding aggressive style | |||
"I've been watching a lot of Ramon Dekkers videos on YouTube lately,1st European to go to Thailand and kick their ass, seriously this guy was a human dynamo Was he before Andy Huggs? Might of spelt that wrong but he was a kuyokushin guy from Sweden who did well in K1 and against Thai fighters in the 90’s " Yes,he fought for the world title against numphong in 1990 Full fight https://youtu.be/y-Ar2-qBqPw | |||
"I used to cage fight. I’ve studied a few forms of martial arts, most are pointless if you get into a real street fight. Wrestling and boxing are probably the most useful. 90% of street fights end up on the floor so you are probably right" The grapplers ability to get back up fast is probably the best skill after running away and avoiding idiots, in my experience fights start between 2-a few people, and grow as others join in, and anyone on the floor tends to be an easy target for anyone. | |||
"I've been watching a lot of Ramon Dekkers videos on YouTube lately,1st European to go to Thailand and kick their ass, seriously this guy was a human dynamo The diamond.....Outstanding aggressive style "Yes sir | |||
"I've been watching a lot of Ramon Dekkers videos on YouTube lately,1st European to go to Thailand and kick their ass, seriously this guy was a human dynamo Was he before Andy Huggs? Might of spelt that wrong but he was a kuyokushin guy from Sweden who did well in K1 and against Thai fighters in the 90’s Yes,he fought for the world title against numphong in 1990 Full fight https://youtu.be/y-Ar2-qBqPw" Oh yeah! I’ve seen him before he’s a machine | |||
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"I've been watching a lot of Ramon Dekkers videos on YouTube lately,1st European to go to Thailand and kick their ass, seriously this guy was a human dynamo Was he before Andy Huggs? Might of spelt that wrong but he was a kuyokushin guy from Sweden who did well in K1 and against Thai fighters in the 90’s Yes,he fought for the world title against numphong in 1990 Full fight https://youtu.be/y-Ar2-qBqPw Oh yeah! I’ve seen him before he’s a machine " He died of heart attack 5 years ago whilst riding his push bike | |||
"I've been watching a lot of Ramon Dekkers videos on YouTube lately,1st European to go to Thailand and kick their ass, seriously this guy was a human dynamo Was he before Andy Huggs? Might of spelt that wrong but he was a kuyokushin guy from Sweden who did well in K1 and against Thai fighters in the 90’s Yes,he fought for the world title against numphong in 1990 Full fight https://youtu.be/y-Ar2-qBqPw Oh yeah! I’ve seen him before he’s a machine He died of heart attack 5 years ago whilst riding his push bike" Owch, that’s a Shame. I’m suprised at heart attack though | |||
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"I've been watching a lot of Ramon Dekkers videos on YouTube lately,1st European to go to Thailand and kick their ass, seriously this guy was a human dynamo Was he before Andy Huggs? Might of spelt that wrong but he was a kuyokushin guy from Sweden who did well in K1 and against Thai fighters in the 90’s Yes,he fought for the world title against numphong in 1990 Full fight https://youtu.be/y-Ar2-qBqPw Oh yeah! I’ve seen him before he’s a machine He died of heart attack 5 years ago whilst riding his push bike Owch, that’s a Shame. I’m suprised at heart attack though" Big hero of mine,I used to fight Thai boxing,no where near Dekkers level,over 200 fights (not me,him) | |||
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"I have black belts in several styles of martial arts and I have taught women's self defense classes. But my first advice to any woman, would be to run, head for lights, somewhere busy, make as much noise as possible, attract as much attention as you can. Knowing self defense can help, but I know that in a real situation a lot of women will forget everything, fright mode sets it, your brain seizes, everything you've learnt can go out the window. Fighting back isn't natural to most people, it's not part of their subconscious. I have had to defend myself on several occasions, and been successful in taking down my attacker, but I've trained since I was a child, I've also done doorwork for nearly 30yrs. Fighting back is part of my 'make up' I don't think, just react. " Bet your a good shag | |||
"I used to cage fight. I’ve studied a few forms of martial arts, most are pointless if you get into a real street fight. Wrestling and boxing are probably the most useful. 90% of street fights end up on the floor so you are probably right" All the ones I've ended up in have gone that way (that sounds bad, it's been a handful since I was 17), a few punches get thrown then it ends up on the floor. In that situation there's no technique, just pounding adrenaline and fight or flight instinct. I've no dramas with fighting dirty if it reaches that point, anything goes! The time I got a shoeing from a dozen chavs for no reason while I was waiting for a taxi wasn't fun though, I didn't even see it coming and was down on the floor with the whole pack of them laying into me before I even knew what was happening. | |||
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"I did Ju Jitsu for a while and really enjoyed it. I'd do it again in a heartbeat if I could find an instructor half as good as my old sensei. I think with martial arts you get used to what you train for. If you train for getting attacked half heartedly and in the most polite way possible in the middle of a nicely lit dojo then that's what you'll be used to. If you want to get better acquainted with getting into a fight you need to hire someone like me to jump out of the bushes at you randomly every now and then shouting "I'm gonna fucking kill you!!" "You know, when I was young, and my dad and uncle decided the school bullies in this country had had their day, I was dragged literally kicking and screaming and shoved in a Do-Gi I was filled with dread, I was expecting some 70’s hard man reject like dad or my uncle Roland, but the sensei was this adorable old chap, proper English posh, educated, probably knows about Shakespeare kinda guy. In a really old worn Do-Gi, one of those proper old school, comes in natural cotton, ends up white (I now know this) with a really worn red and white thing round his waist. I loved learning that Jiu Jitsu it was thinking back probably very like the jitsu foundation aki jitsu or atemi jitsu. But day one rolling, that leg behind their feet and push, hip throws soon followed, then the shoulder throw, the strikes, kicks, wrist work, let’s face it, if some one can do a full power shoulder throw and you neetly roll and spring to your feet, your half way to being able to stop someone hurting you. But, the essence of good self defence ain’t fighting, it’s not running. It’s awareness of your surroundings, it’s noticing differences from what’s normal and it’s knowing, how to eradicate and minimise risks to you, how you live your life. So you enjoy life, and your safe. | |||
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"But, the essence of good self defence ain’t fighting, it’s not running. It’s awareness of your surroundings, it’s noticing differences from what’s normal and it’s knowing, how to eradicate and minimise risks to you, how you live your life. So you enjoy life, and your safe. " You're gonna laugh but my pet theory is that attackers may be subconsciously polite. For example, if you're on the phone they may wait for you to finish your call before they jump on you. So one of my tactics when I'm in a dodgy situation is to pretend I'm in the middle of something. The attacker then thinks "oh I better wait until he's stopped doing x and gives me my cue to jump in" but I never give them their cue. It's worked for me so far haha | |||
