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over a year ago
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I do a monthly salary sacrifice to a number of charities, CRISIS being one of them.
I prefer to fund the shelters rather than directly giving cash on the streets, although I sometimes buy a hot drink in the cold winter weather. |
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I don't give cash but have given food or a drink. My friend got sucked in and gave a woman £20 as she said she was £20 short for a hostel for the night.
She then asked me as she didn't realise my friend and I were together. My friend said to her I've just given you £20, so you're not short. The woman ran off as quick as her legs could carry her.
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I give the same guy every time I walk past him a quid .We know each other by first name now.Ive probably dropped a 100 quid into his hand over the years .
Unfortunately it doesn't give me an enormous sense of well being to hand over a quid every time but I do it anyway .  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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So I was walking home the other week and I saw this guy sat down with a begging sign, I was just about to give him a quid when I saw thecsigh read,
‘This could be you’
So I thought fair play and put thevquod back in my pocket  |
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"Most beggars aren’t homeless, they are drink or drug dependant.
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And there’s the dilemma ...
Are we really helping by giving them anything , or do we do it to feel better ourselves ?
One thing for sure is that giving money is not the answer , unless we want to fund their addiction . |
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By (user no longer on site)
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One of my local.small charities does a sleep out for sponsers every year. Roughly 100 people.volunter to do it.
Its a homless charity for young people they have an old house or 2 that they have little bedsits in and a support team who teach them budgeting skills and how to cook etc. It raises awarness as well. When i worked in the pub we qould stay open all night and privided hot soup. Shame it wasnt done for the real.homless i suppose |
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I give 10% of my time and profit to a homeless charity that do group funding to get the homeless back into work. Not to make me feel good, but because these people have got off their arses and are prepared to change their circumstances. Have been homeless myself, about to be again, so it's close to my heart. |
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"Most beggars aren’t homeless, they are drink or drug dependant.
And there’s the dilemma ...
Are we really helping by giving them anything , or do we do it to feel better ourselves ?
One thing for sure is that giving money is not the answer , unless we want to fund their addiction ."
It’s why I fund CRISIS rather than give cash on the streets - if people really want to help then (imho anyway) fund the soup kitchens, shelters and support centres rather than give direct cash on the street. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"So do you do it so you get to feel good ?
Or because you really think it helps ? "
Yes to feel good and as well to help out, this guy dont beg or anything, like others do. I can really see he needs abit of help, so few times a month I give him few things. |
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"Most beggars aren’t homeless, they are drink or drug dependant.
And there’s the dilemma ...
Are we really helping by giving them anything , or do we do it to feel better ourselves ?
One thing for sure is that giving money is not the answer , unless we want to fund their addiction .
It’s why I fund CRISIS rather than give cash on the streets - if people really want to help then (imho anyway) fund the soup kitchens, shelters and support centres rather than give direct cash on the street. "
Yeah because when you give a junkie cash you don’t just support his habit, you are supporting organised crime and in this day and age with where a lot of the herroine comes from terrorism.
Also your giving cash to the same guy or girl who will commit robberies, burglary, shoplifting and happily supply drugs themselves.
Not to mention how they litter with drug paraphernalia. You know shaps, like the retards up hanky who put them on shop shutters and door handles. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Most beggars aren’t homeless, they are drink or drug dependant.
And there’s the dilemma ...
Are we really helping by giving them anything , or do we do it to feel better ourselves ?
One thing for sure is that giving money is not the answer , unless we want to fund their addiction .
It’s why I fund CRISIS rather than give cash on the streets - if people really want to help then (imho anyway) fund the soup kitchens, shelters and support centres rather than give direct cash on the street.
Yeah because when you give a junkie cash you don’t just support his habit, you are supporting organised crime and in this day and age with where a lot of the herroine comes from terrorism.
Also your giving cash to the same guy or girl who will commit robberies, burglary, shoplifting and happily supply drugs themselves.
Not to mention how they litter with drug paraphernalia. You know shaps, like the retards up hanky who put them on shop shutters and door handles. "
Is it just me or is my spell check mugging me off?  |
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There are many local initiatives that anyone can help. Cooking an extra Sunday lunch for people who struggle, helping in the streets with soup and sandwich handouts, if you are a hairdresser you can offer your service free for an hour a week or a chiropodist etc there are organisations wherever you live who would be overjoyed to have you. We prefer to support small local organisations where we know where all donations go. Buy a copy of the Big Issue from genuine vendors. Make up shoebox kits or bags containing anti bac gel, baby wipes. Toilet roll, band aids Savlon, sanitary products for women on street. Socks, gloves , soap. Toothpaste and toothbrush, general healthcare products and warm clothing, poundshop stuff mostly. Then give them out yourself in place of cash or dontate to local shelters.
It isn’t meant as virtue signaling look at me how generous am I it’s just the right thing to do. |
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"Most beggars aren’t homeless, they are drink or drug dependant.
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Sadly this is true, there are many places where so called homeless people can go, but they get kicked out because of their dependency, it can become a vicious circle sometimes  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Sometimes we just let our prejudices run away with us and assume that all homeless are the same.
Like the crash of us they are people, each one unique, each with their own story of how they became that way.
Instead of sweeping generalisations like some posts on this thread maybe we should remember that. Most of us are only 2 pay slips away from being in their shoes.
The "official figures" say there are 5000 rough sleepers in The UK. It's understating the problem.
One in 200 families in the UK are homeless, sofa surfing, in hostels, b&b or other crap temporary accommodation.
In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day.
Do I help them? Not nearly enough!
Do any of us?
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"Most beggars aren’t homeless, they are drink or drug dependant.
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But not all homeless people are beggars or drink and drug dependant.
There's a lot of painting with a very broad brush that goes on in these forums at times. |
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"Sometimes we just let our prejudices run away with us and assume that all homeless are the same.
Like the crash of us they are people, each one unique, each with their own story of how they became that way.
Instead of sweeping generalisations like some posts on this thread maybe we should remember that. Most of us are only 2 pay slips away from being in their shoes.
The "official figures" say there are 5000 rough sleepers in The UK. It's understating the problem.
One in 200 families in the UK are homeless, sofa surfing, in hostels, b&b or other crap temporary accommodation.
In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day.
Do I help them? Not nearly enough!
Do any of us?
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"Most beggars aren’t homeless, they are drink or drug dependant.
And there’s the dilemma ...
Are we really helping by giving them anything , or do we do it to feel better ourselves ?
One thing for sure is that giving money is not the answer , unless we want to fund their addiction ."
I don't worry about whether i'm funding their addiction.
I have a choice to make when I come across a person who wants me to give, that choice is always ..... do I give or don't I?
That's the only thing I have to consider. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Sometimes we just let our prejudices run away with us and assume that all homeless are the same.
Like the crash of us they are people, each one unique, each with their own story of how they became that way.
Instead of sweeping generalisations like some posts on this thread maybe we should remember that. Most of us are only 2 pay slips away from being in their shoes.
The "official figures" say there are 5000 rough sleepers in The UK. It's understating the problem.
One in 200 families in the UK are homeless, sofa surfing, in hostels, b&b or other crap temporary accommodation.
In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day.
Do I help them? Not nearly enough!
Do any of us?
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5 years ago, there were only 3 street homeless people left in Leicester, 2 of whom had been on the streets for so long, they had no wish to be housed any longer.
That figure is now up at over 30! |
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"Most beggars aren’t homeless, they are drink or drug dependant.
And there’s the dilemma ...
Are we really helping by giving them anything , or do we do it to feel better ourselves ?
One thing for sure is that giving money is not the answer , unless we want to fund their addiction .
I don't worry about whether i'm funding their addiction.
I have a choice to make when I come across a person who wants me to give, that choice is always ..... do I give or don't I?
That's the only thing I have to consider."
That's about the long and the short of it. |
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I generally give most homeless people I see a quid or two, when the weather was really cold in the winter I bought a few coffees, I sometimes by food and I have dished out the odd tenner or £20 here and there.
And if they want to spend it on drink and drugs, you know what - I'm fine with that. It's their money now, I gave it to them unconditionally. If I was in their position, I'd probably spend it on drugs too.
I mean - they live on the street; what the fuck else are they gonna spend it on, scatter cushions and soft furnishings?
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"I generally give most homeless people I see a quid or two, when the weather was really cold in the winter I bought a few coffees, I sometimes by food and I have dished out the odd tenner or £20 here and there.
And if they want to spend it on drink and drugs, you know what - I'm fine with that. It's their money now, I gave it to them unconditionally. If I was in their position, I'd probably spend it on drugs too.
I mean - they live on the street; what the fuck else are they gonna spend it on, scatter cushions and soft furnishings?
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Food? |
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day.
Do I help them? Not nearly enough!
Do any of us?
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If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK. |
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At Christmas I pay for a hotel room from Christmas Eve till the day after Boxing Day
I buy a bundle of cheap joggers, tshirts, sweaters and socks and leave in the room
Along with soft drink, snacks and a tub of sweets. A selection of toiletries and a new thermal sleeping bag
And also a small Xmas gift and card to open up on Christmas Day
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day.
Do I help them? Not nearly enough!
Do any of us?
If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK. "
There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country. |
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"Most beggars aren’t homeless, they are drink or drug dependant.
And there’s the dilemma ...
Are we really helping by giving them anything , or do we do it to feel better ourselves ?
One thing for sure is that giving money is not the answer , unless we want to fund their addiction .
I don't worry about whether i'm funding their addiction.
I have a choice to make when I come across a person who wants me to give, that choice is always ..... do I give or don't I?
That's the only thing I have to consider."
If they buy drugs with the money you give them , and get a bad fix or overdose , do you still figure that’s all you have to worry about ?
That’s a serious question , and is the main reason I don’t give money to them .
I guess you could argue that it’s their choice and no fault of yours for supplying the money . And I would understand that , but does it not worry you at all ?
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day.
Do I help them? Not nearly enough!
Do any of us?
If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK. "
It should. All the figures are from official government stays.
We are the 5th richest country in the world.
Why the fuck are so many people in such a crap place.
Those unoccupied properties they are owned by people and companies. They are nor the answer unless you think the state has the right to simply take what you may own away from you! |
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads.
Irksome."
Yeah but I find smack heads begging for money and saying god bless you and being all creepy till you say no, then they get abusive quite irksome. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day.
Do I help them? Not nearly enough!
Do any of us?
If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK.
There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country."
Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people.
One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless |
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads.
Irksome.
Yeah but I find smack heads begging for money and saying god bless you and being all creepy till you say no, then they get abusive quite irksome. "
I’ve no doubt you do. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day.
Do I help them? Not nearly enough!
Do any of us?
If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK.
There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country.
Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people.
One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless "
You got any better figures?
There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years. |
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads.
Irksome.
Yeah but I find smack heads begging for money and saying god bless you and being all creepy till you say no, then they get abusive quite irksome.
I’ve no doubt you do."
Wait for them to all be on monkey and mamba down there like the majority of them seam to be up here.
A psychoactive and formerly legal high, a formerly legal high you smoke and butane out the yellow can are the 3 they like to sit around and tank here.
What with heroine at £10 and monkey being only £2 |
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"I totally get why drugs would be preferential to food in their situation.
I'm not going to judge them for it"
Totally agree. Drink and drugs would be a welcome respite from being on the streets |
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day.
Do I help them? Not nearly enough!
Do any of us?
If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK.
There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country.
Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people.
One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless "
And I'm on your side for fuck's sake, how aggressive do you get with people that really disagree with you? |
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads.
Irksome."
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I don't work in this field I can only speak about the ones who ask me for money in Manchester, there nearly all 100% off their tits on spice and/or aggressive on alcohol as well.
I'm sure there's some "nice" homeless people in Manchester as well but there not the ones I see on a daily basis |
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Our local homeless guys aren't short of food, we seem quite a generous bunch here and keep them well fed, if Greggs sausage rolls and cola is a balanced diet. I don't get any joy from offering food. It feels a bit redundant and more designed to help think well I did my bit that is enough when really it isnt. |
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day.
Do I help them? Not nearly enough!
Do any of us?
If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK.
There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country.
Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people.
One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless
You got any better figures?
There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years."
And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights?
And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse.
Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK.
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads.
Irksome.
Yeah but I find smack heads begging for money and saying god bless you and being all creepy till you say no, then they get abusive quite irksome.
I’ve no doubt you do.
Wait for them to all be on monkey and mamba down there like the majority of them seam to be up here.
A psychoactive and formerly legal high, a formerly legal high you smoke and butane out the yellow can are the 3 they like to sit around and tank here.
What with heroine at £10 and monkey being only £2 "
I’m fully aware of novel psychoactive substances.
It’s heroin, the other one is the female protagonist of a story. Apologies, I’m a pedant. |
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads.
Irksome..
I don't work in this field I can only speak about the ones who ask me for money in Manchester, there nearly all 100% off their tits on spice and/or aggressive on alcohol as well.
I'm sure there's some "nice" homeless people in Manchester as well but there not the ones I see on a daily basis"
My daughter lived in Manchester until quite recently and all the homeless people we had dealings with were pleasant enough, given their circumstances! |
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads.
Irksome..
I don't work in this field I can only speak about the ones who ask me for money in Manchester, there nearly all 100% off their tits on spice and/or aggressive on alcohol as well.
I'm sure there's some "nice" homeless people in Manchester as well but there not the ones I see on a daily basis"
Yep. I’m sorry they’re not nice to you, how awful for you. |
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads.
Irksome.
Yeah but I find smack heads begging for money and saying god bless you and being all creepy till you say no, then they get abusive quite irksome.
I’ve no doubt you do.
Wait for them to all be on monkey and mamba down there like the majority of them seam to be up here.
A psychoactive and formerly legal high, a formerly legal high you smoke and butane out the yellow can are the 3 they like to sit around and tank here.
What with heroine at £10 and monkey being only £2
I’m fully aware of novel psychoactive substances.
It’s heroin, the other one is the female protagonist of a story. Apologies, I’m a pedant."
I’m never going to forgive your pedantry because you do it to feel superior to some one with learning difficulties, so that makes you a bully. |
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When I lived in a city I used to volunteer for a local homeless charity. We would collect Things needed and distribute to the homeless on Saturday nights. We would also sit and chat to the homeless as most wanted companionship more than anything else
I didn't do it to feel good, I did it to give back to the community and try and help tackle the issues. We would put them in touch with hostels and the support networks for them to intrigate back into a normal life and hopefully be rehomed. There are a lot that are afraid to go back into a home. |
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads.
Irksome.
Yeah but I find smack heads begging for money and saying god bless you and being all creepy till you say no, then they get abusive quite irksome.
I’ve no doubt you do.
Wait for them to all be on monkey and mamba down there like the majority of them seam to be up here.
A psychoactive and formerly legal high, a formerly legal high you smoke and butane out the yellow can are the 3 they like to sit around and tank here.
What with heroine at £10 and monkey being only £2
I’m fully aware of novel psychoactive substances.
It’s heroin, the other one is the female protagonist of a story. Apologies, I’m a pedant.
I’m never going to forgive your pedantry because you do it to feel superior to some one with learning difficulties, so that makes you a bully. "
Yes, because you read minds too. |
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day.
Do I help them? Not nearly enough!
Do any of us?
If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK.
There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country.
Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people.
One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless
You got any better figures?
There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years.
And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights?
And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse.
Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK.
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And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!.
Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered.
Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment. |
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads.
Irksome.
Yeah but I find smack heads begging for money and saying god bless you and being all creepy till you say no, then they get abusive quite irksome.
I’ve no doubt you do.
Wait for them to all be on monkey and mamba down there like the majority of them seam to be up here.
A psychoactive and formerly legal high, a formerly legal high you smoke and butane out the yellow can are the 3 they like to sit around and tank here.
What with heroine at £10 and monkey being only £2
I’m fully aware of novel psychoactive substances.
It’s heroin, the other one is the female protagonist of a story. Apologies, I’m a pedant.
I’m never going to forgive your pedantry because you do it to feel superior to some one with learning difficulties, so that makes you a bully. "
I'm dyslexic, would I have been a bully had I pointed it out? |
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day.
Do I help them? Not nearly enough!
Do any of us?
If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK.
There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country.
Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people.
One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless
You got any better figures?
There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years.
And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights?
And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse.
Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK.
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And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!.
Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered.
Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment."
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Irksome..
I don't work in this field I can only speak about the ones who ask me for money in Manchester, there nearly all 100% off their tits on spice and/or aggressive on alcohol as well.
I'm sure there's some "nice" homeless people in Manchester as well but there not the ones I see on a daily basis
Yep. I’m sorry they’re not nice to you, how awful for you."
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads.
Irksome.
Yeah but I find smack heads begging for money and saying god bless you and being all creepy till you say no, then they get abusive quite irksome.
I’ve no doubt you do.
Wait for them to all be on monkey and mamba down there like the majority of them seam to be up here.
A psychoactive and formerly legal high, a formerly legal high you smoke and butane out the yellow can are the 3 they like to sit around and tank here.
What with heroine at £10 and monkey being only £2
I’m fully aware of novel psychoactive substances.
It’s heroin, the other one is the female protagonist of a story. Apologies, I’m a pedant.
I’m never going to forgive your pedantry because you do it to feel superior to some one with learning difficulties, so that makes you a bully.
I'm dyslexic, would I have been a bully had I pointed it out?"
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day.
Do I help them? Not nearly enough!
Do any of us?
If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK.
There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country.
Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people.
One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless
You got any better figures?
There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years.
And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights?
And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse.
Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK.
.
And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!.
Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered.
Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment."
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day.
Do I help them? Not nearly enough!
Do any of us?
If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK.
There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country.
Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people.
One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless
You got any better figures?
There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years.
And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights?
And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse.
Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK.
.
And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!.
Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered.
Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment.
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day.
Do I help them? Not nearly enough!
Do any of us?
If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK.
There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country.
Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people.
One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless
You got any better figures?
There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years.
And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights?
And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse.
Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK.
.
And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!.
Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered.
Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment.
You want to bring back Bedlam. There's a progressive idea "
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads.
Irksome.
Yeah but I find smack heads begging for money and saying god bless you and being all creepy till you say no, then they get abusive quite irksome.
I’ve no doubt you do.
Wait for them to all be on monkey and mamba down there like the majority of them seam to be up here.
A psychoactive and formerly legal high, a formerly legal high you smoke and butane out the yellow can are the 3 they like to sit around and tank here.
What with heroine at £10 and monkey being only £2
I’m fully aware of novel psychoactive substances.
It’s heroin, the other one is the female protagonist of a story. Apologies, I’m a pedant.
I’m never going to forgive your pedantry because you do it to feel superior to some one with learning difficulties, so that makes you a bully.
I'm dyslexic, would I have been a bully had I pointed it out?
Ah but you didn’t. You are however white knighting. "
Not at all, just pointing out that there was no way anyone could know you have learning difficulties in a public forum unless you warned them beforehand.
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day.
Do I help them? Not nearly enough!
Do any of us?
If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK.
There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country.
Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people.
One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless
You got any better figures?
There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years.
And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights?
And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse.
Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK.
.
And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!.
Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered.
Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment.
You know this how?.
Life experience!"
So I could just make up a counter-claim and if it's challenged just put it down to 'life experience'.
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads.
Irksome..
I don't work in this field I can only speak about the ones who ask me for money in Manchester, there nearly all 100% off their tits on spice and/or aggressive on alcohol as well.
I'm sure there's some "nice" homeless people in Manchester as well but there not the ones I see on a daily basis
Yep. I’m sorry they’re not nice to you, how awful for you..
It is awful your right!
You’re "
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads.
Irksome.
Yeah but I find smack heads begging for money and saying god bless you and being all creepy till you say no, then they get abusive quite irksome.
I’ve no doubt you do.
Wait for them to all be on monkey and mamba down there like the majority of them seam to be up here.
A psychoactive and formerly legal high, a formerly legal high you smoke and butane out the yellow can are the 3 they like to sit around and tank here.
What with heroine at £10 and monkey being only £2
I’m fully aware of novel psychoactive substances.
It’s heroin, the other one is the female protagonist of a story. Apologies, I’m a pedant.
I’m never going to forgive your pedantry because you do it to feel superior to some one with learning difficulties, so that makes you a bully.
I'm dyslexic, would I have been a bully had I pointed it out?
Please don’t expect there not to have already been a myriad of assumptions being made by DarkAngel as was. He’s been around for years. "
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day.
Do I help them? Not nearly enough!
Do any of us?
If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK.
There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country.
Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people.
One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless
You got any better figures?
There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years.
And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights?
And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse.
Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK.
.
And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!.
Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered.
Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment.
You know this how?.
Life experience!
So I could just make up a counter-claim and if it's challenged just put it down to 'life experience'.
Wow, research has changed a lot in the last few years."
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads.
Irksome..
I don't work in this field I can only speak about the ones who ask me for money in Manchester, there nearly all 100% off their tits on spice and/or aggressive on alcohol as well.
I'm sure there's some "nice" homeless people in Manchester as well but there not the ones I see on a daily basis
Yep. I’m sorry they’re not nice to you, how awful for you..
It is awful your right!
You’re .
I'm starting to think your not as empathetic as you like to say you are?."
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads.
Irksome.
Yeah but I find smack heads begging for money and saying god bless you and being all creepy till you say no, then they get abusive quite irksome.
I’ve no doubt you do.
Wait for them to all be on monkey and mamba down there like the majority of them seam to be up here.
A psychoactive and formerly legal high, a formerly legal high you smoke and butane out the yellow can are the 3 they like to sit around and tank here.
What with heroine at £10 and monkey being only £2
I’m fully aware of novel psychoactive substances.
It’s heroin, the other one is the female protagonist of a story. Apologies, I’m a pedant.
I’m never going to forgive your pedantry because you do it to feel superior to some one with learning difficulties, so that makes you a bully.
I'm dyslexic, would I have been a bully had I pointed it out?
Ah but you didn’t. You are however white knighting.
Not at all, just pointing out that there was no way anyone could know you have learning difficulties in a public forum unless you warned them beforehand.
I'm way too long in the tooth for white-knighting. I just get annoyed at blanket statements and bullshit on threads like this and the National Service one.
Oh so you get angry at opinions that don’t match your own? Do we have to conform?"
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads.
Irksome.
Yeah but I find smack heads begging for money and saying god bless you and being all creepy till you say no, then they get abusive quite irksome.
I’ve no doubt you do.
Wait for them to all be on monkey and mamba down there like the majority of them seam to be up here.
A psychoactive and formerly legal high, a formerly legal high you smoke and butane out the yellow can are the 3 they like to sit around and tank here.
What with heroine at £10 and monkey being only £2
I’m fully aware of novel psychoactive substances.
It’s heroin, the other one is the female protagonist of a story. Apologies, I’m a pedant.
I’m never going to forgive your pedantry because you do it to feel superior to some one with learning difficulties, so that makes you a bully.
I'm dyslexic, would I have been a bully had I pointed it out?
Please don’t expect there not to have already been a myriad of assumptions being made by DarkAngel as was. He’s been around for years.
Are you white-knighting me now?"
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads.
Irksome.
Yeah but I find smack heads begging for money and saying god bless you and being all creepy till you say no, then they get abusive quite irksome.
I’ve no doubt you do.
Wait for them to all be on monkey and mamba down there like the majority of them seam to be up here.
A psychoactive and formerly legal high, a formerly legal high you smoke and butane out the yellow can are the 3 they like to sit around and tank here.
What with heroine at £10 and monkey being only £2
I’m fully aware of novel psychoactive substances.
It’s heroin, the other one is the female protagonist of a story. Apologies, I’m a pedant.
I’m never going to forgive your pedantry because you do it to feel superior to some one with learning difficulties, so that makes you a bully.
I'm dyslexic, would I have been a bully had I pointed it out?
Ah but you didn’t. You are however white knighting.
Not at all, just pointing out that there was no way anyone could know you have learning difficulties in a public forum unless you warned them beforehand.
I'm way too long in the tooth for white-knighting. I just get annoyed at blanket statements and bullshit on threads like this and the National Service one.
Oh so you get angry at opinions that don’t match your own? Do we have to conform?
Not at all, I just expect people to at least do a tiny bit of research before throwing out bullshit that they can't back up."
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads.
Irksome.
Yeah but I find smack heads begging for money and saying god bless you and being all creepy till you say no, then they get abusive quite irksome.
I’ve no doubt you do.
Wait for them to all be on monkey and mamba down there like the majority of them seam to be up here.
A psychoactive and formerly legal high, a formerly legal high you smoke and butane out the yellow can are the 3 they like to sit around and tank here.
What with heroine at £10 and monkey being only £2
I’m fully aware of novel psychoactive substances.
It’s heroin, the other one is the female protagonist of a story. Apologies, I’m a pedant.
I’m never going to forgive your pedantry because you do it to feel superior to some one with learning difficulties, so that makes you a bully.
I'm dyslexic, would I have been a bully had I pointed it out?
Please don’t expect there not to have already been a myriad of assumptions being made by DarkAngel as was. He’s been around for years.
Are you white-knighting me now?
Nope. Was saying I didn’t need it. "
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day.
Do I help them? Not nearly enough!
Do any of us?
If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK.
There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country.
Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people.
One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless
You got any better figures?
There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years.
And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights?
And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse.
Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK.
.
And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!.
Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered.
Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment.
You know this how?.
Life experience!"
Then perhaps you need to expand on your life experience.
A significant number if those homeless people are not "kicked out because of their behaviour". More often they are evicted by landlords seeking to maximise their return on investment.
Those who are mentally ill or have addiction issues....are they too human. The system fails them day after day....
Where is the 
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads.
Irksome..
I don't work in this field I can only speak about the ones who ask me for money in Manchester, there nearly all 100% off their tits on spice and/or aggressive on alcohol as well.
I'm sure there's some "nice" homeless people in Manchester as well but there not the ones I see on a daily basis
Yep. I’m sorry they’re not nice to you, how awful for you..
It is awful your right!
You’re .
I'm starting to think your not as empathetic as you like to say you are?.
You misunderstand what the word means then. "
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No I just think your like everybody else who turns mean and nasty when somebody says something they don't like, at least with the others they don't pretend to be an empathetic angel?.
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day.
Do I help them? Not nearly enough!
Do any of us?
If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK.
There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country.
Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people.
One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless
You got any better figures?
There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years.
And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights?
And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse.
Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK.
.
And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!.
Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered.
Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment.
You know this how?.
Life experience!
Then perhaps you need to expand on your life experience.
A significant number if those homeless people are not "kicked out because of their behaviour". More often they are evicted by landlords seeking to maximise their return on investment.
Those who are mentally ill or have addiction issues....are they too human. The system fails them day after day....
Where is the
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads.
Irksome..
I don't work in this field I can only speak about the ones who ask me for money in Manchester, there nearly all 100% off their tits on spice and/or aggressive on alcohol as well.
I'm sure there's some "nice" homeless people in Manchester as well but there not the ones I see on a daily basis
Yep. I’m sorry they’re not nice to you, how awful for you..
It is awful your right!
You’re .
I'm starting to think your not as empathetic as you like to say you are?.
You misunderstand what the word means then. .
No I just think your like everybody else who turns mean and nasty when somebody says something they don't like, at least with the others they don't pretend to be an empathetic angel?.
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She may have empathy. That’s understanding feelings, it doesn’t mean she’s nice.
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day.
Do I help them? Not nearly enough!
Do any of us?
If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK.
There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country.
Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people.
One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless
You got any better figures?
There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years.
And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights?
And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse.
Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK.
.
And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!.
Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered.
Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment.
You know this how?.
Life experience!
Then perhaps you need to expand on your life experience.
A significant number if those homeless people are not "kicked out because of their behaviour". More often they are evicted by landlords seeking to maximise their return on investment.
Those who are mentally ill or have addiction issues....are they too human. The system fails them day after day....
Where is the
You're feeling the love of a society that would rather feed on relative deprivation than look at the root causes of why the world they live in is so screwed!"
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day.
Do I help them? Not nearly enough!
Do any of us?
If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK.
There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country.
Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people.
One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless
You got any better figures?
There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years.
And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights?
And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse.
Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK.
.
And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!.
Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered.
Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment.
You know this how?.
Life experience!
Then perhaps you need to expand on your life experience.
A significant number if those homeless people are not "kicked out because of their behaviour". More often they are evicted by landlords seeking to maximise their return on investment.
Those who are mentally ill or have addiction issues....are they too human. The system fails them day after day....
Where is the
You're feeling the love of a society that would rather feed on relative deprivation than look at the root causes of why the world they live in is so screwed!"
I kind of wish you were wrong.
But then bigotry small minded self seeking opinions based on personal prejudices get a lot of airtime in the forums.
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day.
Do I help them? Not nearly enough!
Do any of us?
If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK.
There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country.
Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people.
One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless
You got any better figures?
There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years.
And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights?
And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse.
Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK.
.
And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!.
Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered.
Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment.
You know this how?.
Life experience!
Then perhaps you need to expand on your life experience.
A significant number if those homeless people are not "kicked out because of their behaviour". More often they are evicted by landlords seeking to maximise their return on investment.
Those who are mentally ill or have addiction issues....are they too human. The system fails them day after day....
Where is the
"
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Well I've yet to find anybody in my own life experience that's reasonable in they're behaviour that the council didn't house, yes maybe not instantly but within a short period, I have however meet shit loads of people that's been housed and then been kicked out for awful behaviour (mostly mental issues) like I said.
I really honestly think the majority of them would be better off being housed in an institution where they could be watched and get treatment (this probably doesn't happen because it's the expensive option) |
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day.
Do I help them? Not nearly enough!
Do any of us?
If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK.
There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country.
Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people.
One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless
You got any better figures?
There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years.
And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights?
And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse.
Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK.
.
And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!.
Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered.
Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment.
You know this how?.
Life experience!
Then perhaps you need to expand on your life experience.
A significant number if those homeless people are not "kicked out because of their behaviour". More often they are evicted by landlords seeking to maximise their return on investment.
Those who are mentally ill or have addiction issues....are they too human. The system fails them day after day....
Where is the
You're feeling the love of a society that would rather feed on relative deprivation than look at the root causes of why the world they live in is so screwed!"
I was told by my local shelter that M and S wont donate food, they would rather bin it.
Because they are worried it will ' devalue' their brand.
At the same time, they were claiming to give 20p to Shelter, the homeless organisation, for every sandwich sold.
Thats seriously screwed! |
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day.
Do I help them? Not nearly enough!
Do any of us?
If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK.
There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country.
Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people.
One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless
You got any better figures?
There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years.
And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights?
And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse.
Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK.
.
And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!.
Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered.
Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment.
You know this how?.
Life experience!
Then perhaps you need to expand on your life experience.
A significant number if those homeless people are not "kicked out because of their behaviour". More often they are evicted by landlords seeking to maximise their return on investment.
Those who are mentally ill or have addiction issues....are they too human. The system fails them day after day....
Where is the
You're feeling the love of a society that would rather feed on relative deprivation than look at the root causes of why the world they live in is so screwed!
T
I
E
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day.
Do I help them? Not nearly enough!
Do any of us?
If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK.
There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country.
Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people.
One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless
You got any better figures?
There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years.
And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights?
And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse.
Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK.
.
And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!.
Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered.
Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment.
You know this how?.
Life experience!
Then perhaps you need to expand on your life experience.
A significant number if those homeless people are not "kicked out because of their behaviour". More often they are evicted by landlords seeking to maximise their return on investment.
Those who are mentally ill or have addiction issues....are they too human. The system fails them day after day....
Where is the
You're feeling the love of a society that would rather feed on relative deprivation than look at the root causes of why the world they live in is so screwed!
T
I
E
?"
This is England |
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day.
Do I help them? Not nearly enough!
Do any of us?
If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK.
There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country.
Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people.
One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless
You got any better figures?
There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years.
And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights?
And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse.
Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK.
.
And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!.
Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered.
Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment.
You know this how?.
Life experience!
Then perhaps you need to expand on your life experience.
A significant number if those homeless people are not "kicked out because of their behaviour". More often they are evicted by landlords seeking to maximise their return on investment.
Those who are mentally ill or have addiction issues....are they too human. The system fails them day after day....
Where is the
You're feeling the love of a society that would rather feed on relative deprivation than look at the root causes of why the world they live in is so screwed!
T
I
E
?
This is England "
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day.
Do I help them? Not nearly enough!
Do any of us?
If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK.
There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country.
Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people.
One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless
You got any better figures?
There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years.
And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights?
And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse.
Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK.
.
And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!.
Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered.
Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment.
You know this how?.
Life experience!
Then perhaps you need to expand on your life experience.
A significant number if those homeless people are not "kicked out because of their behaviour". More often they are evicted by landlords seeking to maximise their return on investment.
Those who are mentally ill or have addiction issues....are they too human. The system fails them day after day....
Where is the
You're feeling the love of a society that would rather feed on relative deprivation than look at the root causes of why the world they live in is so screwed!
T
I
E
?
This is England
Sadly, that's very true, but I'm sure you're proud of yourself."
Erm is there some reason I shouldn’t be? Regarding charity I tend to give to children’s charities because I’m of the opinion that you can make a difference there. Adults are already broken. |
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads.
Irksome..
I don't work in this field I can only speak about the ones who ask me for money in Manchester, there nearly all 100% off their tits on spice and/or aggressive on alcohol as well.
I'm sure there's some "nice" homeless people in Manchester as well but there not the ones I see on a daily basis
Yep. I’m sorry they’re not nice to you, how awful for you..
It is awful your right!
You’re .
I'm starting to think your not as empathetic as you like to say you are?.
You misunderstand what the word means then. .
No I just think your like everybody else who turns mean and nasty when somebody says something they don't like, at least with the others they don't pretend to be an empathetic angel?.
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I’m sorry I’ve offended you and that you’ve felt the need to get personal at me. |
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day.
Do I help them? Not nearly enough!
Do any of us?
If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK.
There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country.
Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people.
One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless
You got any better figures?
There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years.
And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights?
And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse.
Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK.
.
And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!.
Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered.
Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment.
You know this how?.
Life experience!
Then perhaps you need to expand on your life experience.
A significant number if those homeless people are not "kicked out because of their behaviour". More often they are evicted by landlords seeking to maximise their return on investment.
Those who are mentally ill or have addiction issues....are they too human. The system fails them day after day....
Where is the
You're feeling the love of a society that would rather feed on relative deprivation than look at the root causes of why the world they live in is so screwed!
T
I
E
?
This is England
Sadly, that's very true, but I'm sure you're proud of yourself.
Erm is there some reason I shouldn’t be? Regarding charity I tend to give to children’s charities because I’m of the opinion that you can make a difference there. Adults are already broken. "
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day.
Do I help them? Not nearly enough!
Do any of us?
If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK.
There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country.
Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people.
One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless
You got any better figures?
There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years.
And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights?
And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse.
Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK.
.
And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!.
Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered.
Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment.
You know this how?.
Life experience!
Then perhaps you need to expand on your life experience.
A significant number if those homeless people are not "kicked out because of their behaviour". More often they are evicted by landlords seeking to maximise their return on investment.
Those who are mentally ill or have addiction issues....are they too human. The system fails them day after day....
Where is the
You're feeling the love of a society that would rather feed on relative deprivation than look at the root causes of why the world they live in is so screwed!
T
I
E
?
This is England "
Indeed it is. The 1 in 200 homeless families is a UK wide figure.
The 5000+ underestimate of rough sleepers is a UK wide figure.
Perhaps you may wish to extend your life experience a little further before resorting to banal comments? |
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day.
Do I help them? Not nearly enough!
Do any of us?
If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK.
There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country.
Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people.
One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless
You got any better figures?
There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years.
And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights?
And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse.
Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK.
.
And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!.
Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered.
Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment.
You know this how?.
Life experience!
Then perhaps you need to expand on your life experience.
A significant number if those homeless people are not "kicked out because of their behaviour". More often they are evicted by landlords seeking to maximise their return on investment.
Those who are mentally ill or have addiction issues....are they too human. The system fails them day after day....
Where is the
You're feeling the love of a society that would rather feed on relative deprivation than look at the root causes of why the world they live in is so screwed!
T
I
E
?
This is England
Sadly, that's very true, but I'm sure you're proud of yourself.
Erm is there some reason I shouldn’t be? Regarding charity I tend to give to children’s charities because I’m of the opinion that you can make a difference there. Adults are already broken.
I work with children in prison, what makes you think they're not already broken?"
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads.
Irksome..
I don't work in this field I can only speak about the ones who ask me for money in Manchester, there nearly all 100% off their tits on spice and/or aggressive on alcohol as well.
I'm sure there's some "nice" homeless people in Manchester as well but there not the ones I see on a daily basis
Yep. I’m sorry they’re not nice to you, how awful for you..
It is awful your right!
You’re .
I'm starting to think your not as empathetic as you like to say you are?.
You misunderstand what the word means then. .
No I just think your like everybody else who turns mean and nasty when somebody says something they don't like, at least with the others they don't pretend to be an empathetic angel?.
I’m not sure you understand the words mean and nasty if you think that my finding something irksome is mean and nasty.
I’m sorry I’ve offended you and that you’ve felt the need to get personal at me. "
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Don't worry I wasn't offend, I was simply commenting on your obvious need to correct my grammar which if we're being honest I suspect is nothing to do with what "irks" you and everything to do with you wanting to be mean and nasty because you didn't like my opinion? That's ok, we all do it at times, it's human!. |
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day.
Do I help them? Not nearly enough!
Do any of us?
If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK.
There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country.
Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people.
One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless
You got any better figures?
There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years.
And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights?
And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse.
Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK.
.
And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!.
Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered.
Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment.
You know this how?.
Life experience!
Then perhaps you need to expand on your life experience.
A significant number if those homeless people are not "kicked out because of their behaviour". More often they are evicted by landlords seeking to maximise their return on investment.
Those who are mentally ill or have addiction issues....are they too human. The system fails them day after day....
Where is the
You're feeling the love of a society that would rather feed on relative deprivation than look at the root causes of why the world they live in is so screwed!
T
I
E
?
This is England
Indeed it is. The 1 in 200 homeless families is a UK wide figure.
The 5000+ underestimate of rough sleepers is a UK wide figure.
Perhaps you may wish to extend your life experience a little further before resorting to banal comments?"
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads.
Irksome..
I don't work in this field I can only speak about the ones who ask me for money in Manchester, there nearly all 100% off their tits on spice and/or aggressive on alcohol as well.
I'm sure there's some "nice" homeless people in Manchester as well but there not the ones I see on a daily basis
Yep. I’m sorry they’re not nice to you, how awful for you..
It is awful your right!
You’re .
I'm starting to think your not as empathetic as you like to say you are?.
You misunderstand what the word means then. .
No I just think your like everybody else who turns mean and nasty when somebody says something they don't like, at least with the others they don't pretend to be an empathetic angel?.
I’m not sure you understand the words mean and nasty if you think that my finding something irksome is mean and nasty.
I’m sorry I’ve offended you and that you’ve felt the need to get personal at me. .
Don't worry I wasn't offend, I was simply commenting on your obvious need to correct my grammar which if we're being honest I suspect is nothing to do with what "irks" you and everything to do with you wanting to be mean and nasty because you didn't like my opinion? That's ok, we all do it at times, it's human!."
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day.
Do I help them? Not nearly enough!
Do any of us?
If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK.
There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country.
Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people.
One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless
You got any better figures?
There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years.
And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights?
And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse.
Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK.
.
And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!.
Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered.
Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment.
You know this how?.
Life experience!
Then perhaps you need to expand on your life experience.
A significant number if those homeless people are not "kicked out because of their behaviour". More often they are evicted by landlords seeking to maximise their return on investment.
Those who are mentally ill or have addiction issues....are they too human. The system fails them day after day....
Where is the
You're feeling the love of a society that would rather feed on relative deprivation than look at the root causes of why the world they live in is so screwed!
T
I
E
?
This is England
Sadly, that's very true, but I'm sure you're proud of yourself.
Erm is there some reason I shouldn’t be? Regarding charity I tend to give to children’s charities because I’m of the opinion that you can make a difference there. Adults are already broken.
I work with children in prison, what makes you think they're not already broken?
Maybe not irreparably broken would of been better. And I’m optimistic "
Tell that to a kid who's most likely been the victim of psychological, violent or sexual abuse (just the one if he/she is lucky, usually all three), doesn't trust adults as far as they can throw them and have often committed horrible crimes to escape their personal circumstances. It's a bit more difficult to be so glib about the whole thing then.
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day.
Do I help them? Not nearly enough!
Do any of us?
If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK.
There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country.
Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people.
One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless
You got any better figures?
There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years.
And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights?
And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse.
Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK.
.
And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!.
Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered.
Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment.
You know this how?.
Life experience!
Then perhaps you need to expand on your life experience.
A significant number if those homeless people are not "kicked out because of their behaviour". More often they are evicted by landlords seeking to maximise their return on investment.
Those who are mentally ill or have addiction issues....are they too human. The system fails them day after day....
Where is the
You're feeling the love of a society that would rather feed on relative deprivation than look at the root causes of why the world they live in is so screwed!
T
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This is England
Indeed it is. The 1 in 200 homeless families is a UK wide figure.
The 5000+ underestimate of rough sleepers is a UK wide figure.
Perhaps you may wish to extend your life experience a little further before resorting to banal comments?
Maybe you’d like to relate my life experiences to the forum and how I could extend them to meet with you’re very important approval? "
Your!
And it's a kind offer but one I will decline thank you. Your life experience is clearly far more in tune with your reality than letting the facts get in the way of your opinions.
And I've never really been that important. So my approval is probably unnecessary.
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day.
Do I help them? Not nearly enough!
Do any of us?
If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK.
There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country.
Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people.
One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless
You got any better figures?
There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years.
And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights?
And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse.
Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK.
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And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!.
Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered.
Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment.
You know this how?.
Life experience!
Then perhaps you need to expand on your life experience.
A significant number if those homeless people are not "kicked out because of their behaviour". More often they are evicted by landlords seeking to maximise their return on investment.
Those who are mentally ill or have addiction issues....are they too human. The system fails them day after day....
Where is the
You're feeling the love of a society that would rather feed on relative deprivation than look at the root causes of why the world they live in is so screwed!
T
I
E
?
This is England
Indeed it is. The 1 in 200 homeless families is a UK wide figure.
The 5000+ underestimate of rough sleepers is a UK wide figure.
Perhaps you may wish to extend your life experience a little further before resorting to banal comments?
Maybe you’d like to relate my life experiences to the forum and how I could extend them to meet with you’re very important approval?
Your!
And it's a kind offer but one I will decline thank you. Your life experience is clearly far more in tune with your reality than letting the facts get in the way of your opinions.
And I've never really been that important. So my approval is probably unnecessary.
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads.
Irksome..
I don't work in this field I can only speak about the ones who ask me for money in Manchester, there nearly all 100% off their tits on spice and/or aggressive on alcohol as well.
I'm sure there's some "nice" homeless people in Manchester as well but there not the ones I see on a daily basis
Yep. I’m sorry they’re not nice to you, how awful for you..
It is awful your right!
You’re .
I'm starting to think your not as empathetic as you like to say you are?.
You misunderstand what the word means then. .
No I just think your like everybody else who turns mean and nasty when somebody says something they don't like, at least with the others they don't pretend to be an empathetic angel?.
I’m not sure you understand the words mean and nasty if you think that my finding something irksome is mean and nasty.
I’m sorry I’ve offended you and that you’ve felt the need to get personal at me. .
Don't worry I wasn't offend, I was simply commenting on your obvious need to correct my grammar which if we're being honest I suspect is nothing to do with what "irks" you and everything to do with you wanting to be mean and nasty because you didn't like my opinion? That's ok, we all do it at times, it's human!.
Except you’re wrong. Again. But that’s okay too. "
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Ok, well all's well that ends well.
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day.
Do I help them? Not nearly enough!
Do any of us?
If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK.
There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country.
Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people.
One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless
You got any better figures?
There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years.
And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights?
And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse.
Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK.
.
And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!.
Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered.
Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment.
You know this how?.
Life experience!
Then perhaps you need to expand on your life experience.
A significant number if those homeless people are not "kicked out because of their behaviour". More often they are evicted by landlords seeking to maximise their return on investment.
Those who are mentally ill or have addiction issues....are they too human. The system fails them day after day....
Where is the
You're feeling the love of a society that would rather feed on relative deprivation than look at the root causes of why the world they live in is so screwed!
T
I
E
?
This is England
Sadly, that's very true, but I'm sure you're proud of yourself.
Erm is there some reason I shouldn’t be? Regarding charity I tend to give to children’s charities because I’m of the opinion that you can make a difference there. Adults are already broken.
I work with children in prison, what makes you think they're not already broken?
Maybe not irreparably broken would of been better. And I’m optimistic
Tell that to a kid who's most likely been the victim of psychological, violent or sexual abuse (just the one if he/she is lucky, usually all three), doesn't trust adults as far as they can throw them and have often committed horrible crimes to escape their personal circumstances. It's a bit more difficult to be so glib about the whole thing then.
Oh, and they're probably your future homeless population too, given that society at large doesn't give a shit about them."
Hmmm. So you work with them for why?
Oh I was in HmP Stoke Heath for nearly 2 years. But I haven’t committed a criminal act since I was a teenager. Maybe you should ask Estell to hook you up with DarkAngel. I don’t think he’s got convictions. But if he was deffinatly sexually and pysically abused. |
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This is the most horrific, self congratulatory, contrived, awful thread I’ve ever came across! This is a swingers website, where people are basically selling them self’s, there personalities looks etc, to attract others to have sex with them. And there is a thread, (one of the most popular threads of the day) where people are talking about what they do for charity, it’s so cringe, my Lordy lord this is truley hideous.
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"This is the most horrific, self congratulatory, contrived, awful thread I’ve ever came across! This is a swingers website, where people are basically selling them self’s, there personalities looks etc, to attract others to have sex with them. And there is a thread, (one of the most popular threads of the day) where people are talking about what they do for charity, it’s so cringe, my Lordy lord this is truley hideous.
Stay humble, do stuff for the right reasons. "
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This thread reminds me of those self absorbed narcs who film thereselves giving food etc to the homeless, then putting it on social media or You tube, so people can see how selfless they are. Totally shameless. |
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"Who else does it? I do it sometimes. I gave a and a apple today, it feels really good when you do it.
Do you never share your Haribos with them?  "
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"I totally get why drugs would be preferential to food in their situation.
I'm not going to judge them for it"
Why not be more responsible and give them drugs directly then? At least you could make sure they get good quality ones and not the nasty cut up shit. |
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A friend of 45years, effectively homeless at this time due to his behaviour (exclusion order), has been with me for 17 weeks.
Despite our history, I'm not all surprised he's in this position
Alcoholism, depression and a sense of entitlement . . . His behaviour is awful and he's doing sweet FA to help himself. I'm ashamed to admit, he's driving me nuts.  |
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"I totally get why drugs would be preferential to food in their situation.
I'm not going to judge them for it
Why not be more responsible and give them drugs directly then? At least you could make sure they get good quality ones and not the nasty cut up shit. "
I don't know where to get good shit anymore.
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"I totally get why drugs would be preferential to food in their situation.
I'm not going to judge them for it
Why not be more responsible and give them drugs directly then? At least you could make sure they get good quality ones and not the nasty cut up shit.
I don't know where to get good shit anymore.
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The majority of people in this country are only 2-3 pay cheques from being homeless themselves. Ask yourself how long you could keep the wolves from the door if you lost your job tomorrow?
169% increase in homelessness since the tires took power in 2010.
A national tragedy. |
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