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"Daughter (or son) asked you to help them buy a motorbike would you ?"
Yes but only on the proviso that they are a sensible child,get lessons and I teach them how to survive on the roads on a bike.
It's dangerous for us bikers but the freedom is worth it. |
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Nope.
We bought our son an old fiesta when he passed his test, but he has no interest in bikes, luckily.
If he wants to buy one himself at a later date, his choice, but I wouldn't be happy about it and I wouldn't help him financially. |
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"Nope.
We bought our son an old fiesta when he passed his test, but he has no interest in bikes, luckily.
If he wants to buy one himself at a later date, his choice, but I wouldn't be happy about it and I wouldn't help him financially. "
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"Daughter (or son) asked you to help them buy a motorbike would you ?"
Already been asked said no he bought one anyway and had it taken by police a week later |
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"Nope.
We bought our son an old fiesta when he passed his test, but he has no interest in bikes, luckily.
If he wants to buy one himself at a later date, his choice, but I wouldn't be happy about it and I wouldn't help him financially.
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At sixteen, you can start riding a motorbike. This gives you the freedom to transport yourself about to places, and a head-start on learning road sense.
I truly believe that being on two wheels in real traffic, especially whilst you're learning, gives you a much more cautious view on road use. I taught him to assume that everyone else on the road is actively trying to knock him off... hence it's his responsibility to react to potential situations.
Eight years down the line, he has had a few bike, and a couple of cars but not been in any accidents. He passed both tests with no issues and is general a sensible road user.
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I did. Riding a bike on the roads until he could start learning to drive helped him to be more road aware.
Yes, I was nervous as hell when he went out on it but I guess it will be similar once he gets his car. |
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I'll expand on my nope, I couldn't in good conscience be the facilitator in providing a bike which has an incredibly high risk of injury or death.
At least in a car you are protected by airbags and the chassis, so I'd try to steer them in that direction.
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By *eeBee67Man
over a year ago
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I honestly think that riding a motorbike (sensibly) on the roads gives you a much better road sense and awareness of surroundings, other road users and vulnerability, which are good when you start driving a car. |
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"At sixteen, you can start riding a motorbike. This gives you the freedom to transport yourself about to places, and a head-start on learning road sense.
I truly believe that being on two wheels in real traffic, especially whilst you're learning, gives you a much more cautious view on road use. I taught him to assume that everyone else on the road is actively trying to knock him off... hence it's his responsibility to react to potential situations.
Eight years down the line, he has had a few bike, and a couple of cars but not been in any accidents. He passed both tests with no issues and is general a sensible road user.
Cal"
So so true. And op are we talking 16 to 19 and a legal bike |
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"I'll expand on my nope, I couldn't in good conscience be the facilitator in providing a bike which has an incredibly high risk of injury or death.
At least in a car you are protected by airbags and the chassis, so I'd try to steer them in that direction.
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"I'll expand on my nope, I couldn't in good conscience be the facilitator in providing a bike which has an incredibly high risk of injury or death.
At least in a car you are protected by airbags and the chassis, so I'd try to steer them in that direction.
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Unfortunately not always the case either |
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"Daughter (or son) asked you to help them buy a motorbike would you ?"
Not a chance!
Almost every guy I know who rides a motorcycle has had at least one fairly or very serious injury - and all of them know people who’ve been killed on motorbikes!
Even a metal cage (car) doesn’t provide total safety - but it provides a hell of a lot more than a bike!
I’d do everything I could to persuade them to opt for a car instead! X |
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Approximately 80% of reported motorcycle crashes result in injury or death; a comparable figure for automobiles is about 20 percent.
So not a chance in hell! |
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"I'll expand on my nope, I couldn't in good conscience be the facilitator in providing a bike which has an incredibly high risk of injury or death.
At least in a car you are protected by airbags and the chassis, so I'd try to steer them in that direction.
Unfortunately not always the case either "
Well no, but statistically your more likely to survive a collision at 70mph in a car than a bike. |
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"I'll expand on my nope, I couldn't in good conscience be the facilitator in providing a bike which has an incredibly high risk of injury or death.
At least in a car you are protected by airbags and the chassis, so I'd try to steer them in that direction.
Unfortunately not always the case either
Well no, but statistically your more likely to survive a collision at 70mph in a car than a bike."
Not always, that’s how my brother died was a head on crash and he wasn’t speeding. |
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" I have been a biker all my adult life, way back in the 70's broke my back in a crash, I was lucky I wasn't paralysed, it didn't put me off! there is no way I would help buy a bike for my kids  "
That's really interesting, how come you don't apply the same caution to yourself ? |
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Not a chance in hell.
I get my kicks deliberately crashing cars , racing bangers , yes it hurts , but I still feel safe doing it.
Having been knocked off a 125cc scooter by some fuckwit on her phone , I won't be riding a motor bike on public roads ever again.
Ankle's full of metal and still hurts every step , every day 10 years later
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My nephew is now 21 and got his first bike last year.
His parents neither encouraged or discouraged him, they allowed him to make his own decisions.
You can't wrap them up in cotton wool or live their life for them. All you can do is make sure they are fully aware of the risks and make sure that they do things as safely as possible.
My nephew has bought the best safety equipment he can afford and is upgrading everything to higher spec. He is mature and intelligent enough to understand that his kit is the only protection between him and the road surface and is doing it properly. |
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"Daughter (or son) asked you to help them buy a motorbike would you ?"
Mine has. I’m just hoping she fails the cbt. I’ve lost more friends in cars than motorbikes over the years.
So long as they have all the gear an good advice. I’d say yes. As the minute you say no, they stop listening  |
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I would probably say yes... but only for a proper bike (not a moped!!) And also for the right safety gear as that's expensive and not something your should cut costs on.
Then the deal is they come out with me so they can learn to ride properly and safely. |
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By *otplumMan
over a year ago
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" I have been a biker all my adult life, way back in the 70's broke my back in a crash, I was lucky I wasn't paralysed, it didn't put me off! there is no way I would help buy a bike for my kids
That's really interesting, how come you don't apply the same caution to yourself ? "
I started riding in the 70's and looking back there were lots less vehicles on the road and a lot less potential for an accident. |
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By *good-being-bad OP Man
over a year ago
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"At sixteen, you can start riding a motorbike. This gives you the freedom to transport yourself about to places, and a head-start on learning road sense.
I truly believe that being on two wheels in real traffic, especially whilst you're learning, gives you a much more cautious view on road use. I taught him to assume that everyone else on the road is actively trying to knock him off... hence it's his responsibility to react to potential situations.
Eight years down the line, he has had a few bike, and a couple of cars but not been in any accidents. He passed both tests with no issues and is general a sensible road user.
Cal So so true. And op are we talking 16 to 19 and a legal bike "
Yep in answer to both. |
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If I had children who wanted a bike then yes I would assist them.
First thing I would do is to book them onto the cbt course and then buy them the best safety gear I could.
I personally think that riding a bike makes you a better driver. I rode a Vespa on L plates for 3 years before I started learning to drive a car. I think it makes you more aware of bikers |
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Drivers are wrapped in a cacoon of safety features and WiFi these days,
The blind spots caused by foot wide euro ncap inspired a and b pillers is quite worrying, couple this with all the distraction on ecigs, satnavs, mobilephones an the like,
Your invisible to some motorists on a bike of any kind.
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Cal So so true. And op are we talking 16 to 19 and a legal bike
Yep in answer to both."
if I had the money too help then yes. As long as they also brought all the gear. |
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We helped our son buy a bike. The third time an ambulance man picked him up off the road he turned to us and said "somebody's trying to tell you something". His father took his bike keys away that night and the bike was sold. I picked him up from work each night from then on despite the fact that he often didn't finish until 11:30 pm.
My brother was seriously injured when some clown pulled out of a junction into the side of his bike. His broken pelvis and hip means he still walks with a limp and suffers pain.
Not everyone who rides bike crashes though. |
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By *m3232Man
over a year ago
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No. Been there done that many years ago. To dangerous with today’s idiotic drivers.
I would be on call to my son for taxi use as I was lucky and only have minor damage for riding a bike in my early years. |
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" I have been a biker all my adult life, way back in the 70's broke my back in a crash, I was lucky I wasn't paralysed, it didn't put me off! there is no way I would help buy a bike for my kids
That's really interesting, how come you don't apply the same caution to yourself ? I started riding in the 70's and looking back there were lots less vehicles on the road and a lot less potential for an accident. "
And is it because you'd miss the adrenaline from it if you stopped now? Or just it's your preferred way to travel ? |
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yes of course I got my first bike at 16 for work still ride now. plus at least if you help you can make sure it's sensible and reliable, better than them just going and buying a death trap |
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"Daughter (or son) asked you to help them buy a motorbike would you ?
Yes but only on the proviso that they are a sensible child,get lessons and I teach them how to survive on the roads on a bike.
It's dangerous for us bikers but the freedom is worth it."
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No. My son was told he will never get a motorbike and he never did.
My teenage son had an accident on his friend's motorbike and was lucky to not be seriously hurt.
In my opinion they are too dangerous in the hands of a lot of teenagers.
Your teenager might be a responsible rider, but there's still the other road users to consider. |
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By *good-being-bad OP Man
over a year ago
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"Daughter (or son) asked you to help them buy a motorbike would you ?
A hell of a lot depends on the person.
Why does she want the bike ?"
She's seen a friend of hers with a bike, she still has to use public transport or get a lift from place to place. She'd like to be able to go places without the 'hassle'. .. |
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Most accidents happen in the home, of those the most dangerous room is the kitchen. My teenagers mitigate this by never putting their dirty plates away, never putting stuff in the washing machine, that kind of thing
I’m kidding, I know the statistics show clearly that you’re more likely to have a crash on a bike and that crash is much more likely to be serious. However it’s really good fun on a bike, a completely different experience to driving a car.
I would allow a teenager to get a bike as long as they got the right kit and did some further training too. I did CBT and then full bike test but I learned a lot from the training I got after I passed, that’s what makes you a safe rider. |
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"Daughter (or son) asked you to help them buy a motorbike would you ?
A hell of a lot depends on the person.
Why does she want the bike ?
She's seen a friend of hers with a bike, she still has to use public transport or get a lift from place to place. She'd like to be able to go places without the 'hassle'. .."
Independence, the most dangerous thing a teenager can ask for but the one thing we *have* to give them.
I really wish that it was a requirement to take a minimum number of lessons similar to driving lessons. The CBT test is useful but hardly exhaustive. |
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"Daughter (or son) asked you to help them buy a motorbike would you ?
A hell of a lot depends on the person.
Why does she want the bike ?
She's seen a friend of hers with a bike, she still has to use public transport or get a lift from place to place. She'd like to be able to go places without the 'hassle'. .."
Then yes. If she has the ability to upkeep it.
I'd have a say on which was safest etc.
And she's have to pass test and advanced tests and i'd make her have all the practise under the sun 
And there's be a proviso that if she didn't use it id sell it and recoup my money.
It's a very good life skill and can lead to delivery jobs such as ..... blood and organ doners......messages.... pizza etc
Every skill is an opener |
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"No, ‘cos my son would be an irresponsible twat with it.
My daughter on the other hand, possibly, but I’d steer towards a car.
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I think you've hit the nail on the head, teenage boys are risk takers.
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I can't remember the last time I went out on mine and some cunt didn't try and kill me. I started riding road bikes at 16 on a fs1e nobody ever cared enough to try and stop me not that they could have anyway. My own kids are in a very different place to where I was but both have my stubbornness so I know full well trying to stop them would be the worst thing I could do. My son's now 29 and has always talked about it but never done it thank God. The way he drives his car is bad enough. My daughter is just 16 and only the other day was in my garage with me and was looking at the dt50 that's been parked in there for over 15 years now and said to me I could ride that now couldn't I dad. I'm worried like me nothing will stop her if that's what she decides to do. Thankfully she's a damn site more responsible than my son. As much as biking is and always will be in my blood me getting flattened is 1 thing it happening to her is quite another. I will be neither encouraging her or holding her back it's my only option. |
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By *otplumMan
over a year ago
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" I have been a biker all my adult life, way back in the 70's broke my back in a crash, I was lucky I wasn't paralysed, it didn't put me off! there is no way I would help buy a bike for my kids
That's really interesting, how come you don't apply the same caution to yourself ? I started riding in the 70's and looking back there were lots less vehicles on the road and a lot less potential for an accident.
And is it because you'd miss the adrenaline from it if you stopped now? Or just it's your preferred way to travel ? "
I love the freedom and the adrenaline that a high powered bike gives me plus the fact I read the road ahead, not had a crash in 30 years now, |
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" I have been a biker all my adult life, way back in the 70's broke my back in a crash, I was lucky I wasn't paralysed, it didn't put me off! there is no way I would help buy a bike for my kids "
if they really want to do it let them buy it themselves. |
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" I have been a biker all my adult life, way back in the 70's broke my back in a crash, I was lucky I wasn't paralysed, it didn't put me off! there is no way I would help buy a bike for my kids
That's really interesting, how come you don't apply the same caution to yourself ? I started riding in the 70's and looking back there were lots less vehicles on the road and a lot less potential for an accident.
And is it because you'd miss the adrenaline from it if you stopped now? Or just it's your preferred way to travel ? I love the freedom and the adrenaline that a high powered bike gives me plus the fact I read the road ahead, not had a crash in 30 years now, "
That last line is the kiss of death |
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"My nephew is now 21 and got his first bike last year.
His parents neither encouraged or discouraged him, they allowed him to make his own decisions.
You can't wrap them up in cotton wool or live their life for them. All you can do is make sure they are fully aware of the risks and make sure that they do things as safely as possible.
My nephew has bought the best safety equipment he can afford and is upgrading everything to higher spec. He is mature and intelligent enough to understand that his kit is the only protection between him and the road surface and is doing it properly. "
I think there's a big difference between saving up and buying a bike and getting some one to buy it for you |
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"Daughter (or son) asked you to help them buy a motorbike would you ?"
no.
It doesn't matter how good a bike rider you are. It only takes one idiot in car, van, or lorry to hit you and your life is over. |
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" I have been a biker all my adult life, way back in the 70's broke my back in a crash, I was lucky I wasn't paralysed, it didn't put me off! there is no way I would help buy a bike for my kids
That's really interesting, how come you don't apply the same caution to yourself ? I started riding in the 70's and looking back there were lots less vehicles on the road and a lot less potential for an accident. "
And the bikes were a lot slower (thank goodness)!!
Nothing could have stopped me at the time but I knew of people who lost limbs and lost their lives so I would try to dissuade any child of mine. |
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"I can't remember the last time I went out on mine and some cunt didn't try and kill me. "
Yes, the RACACU taught me to drive defensively, and safely (in terms of gear). I see kids driving too fast without even gloves or jackets on, bare arms, and it chills my blood. |
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"I honestly think that riding a motorbike (sensibly) on the roads gives you a much better road sense and awareness of surroundings, other road users and vulnerability, which are good when you start driving a car."
Deserves a medal! There’s too many oblivious people in there metal boxes |
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No as he doesnt have the patience to be in control of one, plus i have first hand experience of how a lot of other road users can be a danger to bikers i was only 19 when i had my leg ripped off due to a careless car driver whilst riding pillion |
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Yes i would and I have. 125cc motorcycle. And for anyone that thinks I'm mad I dont care. It's much safer than being on a 50cc moped that can't keep up with the flow of traffic. Anyone that has ever been on a 50cc moped will know exactly how dangerous they are. At least with a 125cc you have some bottom end to pull away and keep up with the flow of traffic and not have to worry about a large truck overtaking and pulling you underneath on the way past. |
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I had my dad borrow his work van so we could go pick up a Peugeot speedfight. Fixed it up and rode it to college. Was riding home one day and there was a crash Infront of me on a corner, I rode over debris rear tyre exploded and it threw me off into someone's garden. Dad collected bike, we fixed it for the second time and I was riding it to college the next week (covered in cuts and bruises lol). My dad has had motorbikes all my life so it's not really a big deal for him, but I can see why you'd be nervous if you've never been into bikes. |
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No! I did the motorbike thing against my parents wishes and had a near fatal accident infront of my dad (diesel spill on a bend). 4 years later and dozens of surgeries later im still not how i used to be, and it effected my dad.
Sadly the uk isnt made for motorbike safety with all yhe congestion and narrow roads.
My advice is they look amazing and the thrill of riding one is second to none, but one second of uncontrollable fate and it could be death. |
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Good question OP. We all bring our own baggage to this, so for me, probably not. I’ve lost one close relative to low speed, unprotected vehicle crashes, that’s enough. |
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My first experience on a bike as a child, sitting on Rob Haslams petrol tank & riding round his yard.
I learnt how to ride from the best.
I taught my eldest to ride.
Bought him a 50cc Vespa for his 16th, then a 250 Honda for his 18th.
He's 26 & now rides 1000cc Triumph Tiger.
Bikes are in his blood. |
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"Good question OP. We all bring our own baggage to this, so for me, probably not. I’ve lost one close relative to low speed, unprotected vehicle crashes, that’s enough.ur ass is massive"
Time and place! |
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