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over a year ago
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...highest paid presenters are all white males, in fact the top 12 are all white males, so much for equality and diversity that the BBC is supposed to represent or is this just a case that the top 12 most talented people at the BBC by coincidence happen to be male and white ? |
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"Wasn't this yesterdays news  "
Probably, I am in Devon, we’re just getting Commodore 64’s down here and Raleigh Grifters. Anyway can’t chat I’m off down Woolworths to get some pick n mix!  |
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"Wasn't this yesterdays news
Probably, I am in Devon, we’re just getting Commodore 64’s down here and Raleigh Grifters. Anyway can’t chat I’m off down Woolworths to get some pick n mix! "
Damn, you’re far ahead than in my neck of the woods here; We’re riding Penny-Farthings, and have gas lamps. |
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"Wasn't this yesterdays news
Probably, I am in Devon, we’re just getting Commodore 64’s down here and Raleigh Grifters. Anyway can’t chat I’m off down Woolworths to get some pick n mix!
Damn, you’re far ahead than in my neck of the woods here; We’re riding Penny-Farthings, and have gas lamps. "
Bloody hipsters ! |
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It must be really hard to quantify who's worth what in the "entertainment" industry. I don't know how they do it, but there must be many variables - experience, popularity on screen, qualifications, the time of day they appear, how far they live from work, how much research they do, how much of a deal their agents work out etc.
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"It must be really hard to quantify who's worth what in the "entertainment" industry. I don't know how they do it, but there must be many variables - experience, popularity on screen, qualifications, the time of day they appear, how far they live from work, how much research they do, how much of a deal their agents work out etc.
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It’s probably what they’re worth to other companies, so I guess that’s what they have to pay, just unfortunate for the BBC they happen to be all white men. |
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It annoys us when they say they are paying the market rate. I would sooner they created stars than pay them.
If the others are so damn willing to pay that much, let them. Just have a ceiling and let the affordable and yet to be discovered talent thrive. |
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"It annoys us when they say they are paying the market rate. I would sooner they created stars than pay them.
If the others are so damn willing to pay that much, let them. Just have a ceiling and let the affordable and yet to be discovered talent thrive. "
Really liking the idea, but Joe Public appears to be addicted to celebrity, fame and success and tends to be a bit 'meh' to newcomers. |
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"It annoys us when they say they are paying the market rate. I would sooner they created stars than pay them.
If the others are so damn willing to pay that much, let them. Just have a ceiling and let the affordable and yet to be discovered talent thrive. "
Nearly half a million for Nick fucking Grimshaw is obscene. |
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"...highest paid presenters are all white males, in fact the top 12 are all white males, so much for equality and diversity that the BBC is supposed to represent or is this just a case that the top 12 most talented people at the BBC by coincidence happen to be male and white ? "
Who were the non-white people you expected to see on the list? |
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By *ara JTV/TS
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"...highest paid presenters are all white males, in fact the top 12 are all white males, so much for equality and diversity that the BBC is supposed to represent or is this just a case that the top 12 most talented people at the BBC by coincidence happen to be male and white ? "
I'd ask if the people who decided these things are also male and white. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Wow the bbc sexist and racist I never knew "
Don't be silly. For years and years the BBC women presenters of major news, mainstream shows and headline shows. As well as black women doing those same jobs as well. All the list shows, is that at this moment in time there are no women in that top 12. |
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"...highest paid presenters are all white males, in fact the top 12 are all white males, so much for equality and diversity that the BBC is supposed to represent or is this just a case that the top 12 most talented people at the BBC by coincidence happen to be male and white ?
Who were the non-white people you expected to see on the list? "
I’m throwing it out there for debate, I’m not expecting to see anyone. |
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"...highest paid presenters are all white males, in fact the top 12 are all white males, so much for equality and diversity that the BBC is supposed to represent or is this just a case that the top 12 most talented people at the BBC by coincidence happen to be male and white ?
I'd ask if the people who decided these things are also male and white."
I think it’s decided by, that they’re the mostly popular with the general public, thus creating there supply and demand, therefore they can command the highest wages. |
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Google found this for me:-
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3806436/BBC-faces-backlash-fixing-number-non-white-presenters.html
I realise the the Daily Mail is not well thought of, but it makes interesting reading. |
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"...highest paid presenters are all white males, in fact the top 12 are all white males, so much for equality and diversity that the BBC is supposed to represent or is this just a case that the top 12 most talented people at the BBC by coincidence happen to be male and white ?
Who were the non-white people you expected to see on the list?
I’m throwing it out there for debate, I’m not expecting to see anyone."
Ok, it's not coincidence. It's the fact that productivity follows a pareto distribution rather than a normal distribution, coupled with a historical context that made it harder for women and ethnic minorities to achieve their full potential. I guess most the people on that list are over 40? So unfortunately, you need a bit more patience to see the diversity picture you referenced, reflected in the stats. |
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"It annoys us when they say they are paying the market rate. I would sooner they created stars than pay them.
If the others are so damn willing to pay that much, let them. Just have a ceiling and let the affordable and yet to be discovered talent thrive.
Really liking the idea, but Joe Public appears to be addicted to celebrity, fame and success and tends to be a bit 'meh' to newcomers."
Excellent point, unfortunately!  |
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"Wow the bbc sexist and racist I never knew
Don't be silly. For years and years the BBC women presenters of major news, mainstream shows and headline shows. As well as black women doing those same jobs as well. All the list shows, is that at this moment in time there are no women in that top 12."
i was being sarcastic ffs  |
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"...highest paid presenters are all white males, in fact the top 12 are all white males, so much for equality and diversity that the BBC is supposed to represent or is this just a case that the top 12 most talented people at the BBC by coincidence happen to be male and white ?
Who were the non-white people you expected to see on the list?
I’m throwing it out there for debate, I’m not expecting to see anyone.
Ok, it's not coincidence. It's the fact that productivity follows a pareto distribution rather than a normal distribution, coupled with a historical context that made it harder for women and ethnic minorities to achieve their full potential. I guess most the people on that list are over 40? So unfortunately, you need a bit more patience to see the diversity picture you referenced, reflected in the stats. "
That sounded like the equivalent of doing wheelies in the forum to impress the girls. |
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"...highest paid presenters are all white males, in fact the top 12 are all white males, so much for equality and diversity that the BBC is supposed to represent or is this just a case that the top 12 most talented people at the BBC by coincidence happen to be male and white ?
Who were the non-white people you expected to see on the list?
I’m throwing it out there for debate, I’m not expecting to see anyone.
Ok, it's not coincidence. It's the fact that productivity follows a pareto distribution rather than a normal distribution, coupled with a historical context that made it harder for women and ethnic minorities to achieve their full potential. I guess most the people on that list are over 40? So unfortunately, you need a bit more patience to see the diversity picture you referenced, reflected in the stats.
That sounded like the equivalent of doing wheelies in the forum to impress the girls. "
Hardly. You impress the girls by giving a sob story about how hard it is for women to crack the glass ceiling. Facts never made anyone popular. |
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People wont be happy until the year 2157 when there will be equal amounts of all races and all ages and all sexualities represented and we can only pray that at least half of them will be transgender or people will be throwing bitch fits all over the damn place, everybody will earn the exact same wage no matter what your job may be or how good or well known you are because... feelings |
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"...highest paid presenters are all white males, in fact the top 12 are all white males, so much for equality and diversity that the BBC is supposed to represent or is this just a case that the top 12 most talented people at the BBC by coincidence happen to be male and white ?
Who were the non-white people you expected to see on the list?
I’m throwing it out there for debate, I’m not expecting to see anyone.
Ok, it's not coincidence. It's the fact that productivity follows a pareto distribution rather than a normal distribution, coupled with a historical context that made it harder for women and ethnic minorities to achieve their full potential. I guess most the people on that list are over 40? So unfortunately, you need a bit more patience to see the diversity picture you referenced, reflected in the stats.
That sounded like the equivalent of doing wheelies in the forum to impress the girls.
Hardly. You impress the girls by giving a sob story about how hard it is for women to crack the glass ceiling. Facts never made anyone popular. "
I’ll let you know if it works, oh no I can’t can I. |
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