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"Thanks for telling me that Kane is still on , I wouldn’t have known otherwise . Infact I wondered if he actually started the game , or indeed whether he will decide to start playing at some point ."  | |||
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"Is Anybody Calm "I’ve gotta say I’m a bit pissed off . The first 45 minutes we were well on top , and then .... nothing . Kane is the top scorer in the tournament and yet he’s playing deep in midfield tonight , and has barely touched the ball , and had no shots . Wtf is that all about ? And Rashford is worse than useless since he came on ..... | |||
"Lucky that wasn't a penalty at the end. All it takes is one dodgy croatian to start drawing a box with his fingers" Looked like a penalty to me ! | |||
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"It was inevitable "I only looked in at extra time and we do look out played to be honest | |||
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"It was inevitable
I only looked in at extra time and we do look out played to be honest "The fact that Kane has played out of position , Lingard has been crap , Sterling has been Sterling , and Rashford has been crap , has shown us that we were flattering to deceive up to this game . We had the better of the first half , and were well on top . Since then , shite , especially Kane . Maybe he’s injured and we didn’t know ? | |||
"Heavenly Father Who art in Heaven "Where's your other t-shirt pic?
You may need to recycle unfortunately | |||
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"Heavenly Father Who art in Heaven
Where's your other t-shirt pic?
You may need to recycle unfortunately "I just have to turn around  | |||
"It was inevitable
I only looked in at extra time and we do look out played to be honest
The fact that Kane has played out of position , Lingard has been crap , Sterling has been Sterling , and Rashford has been crap , has shown us that we were flattering to deceive up to this game .
We had the better of the first half , and were well on top . Since then , shite , especially Kane . Maybe he’s injured and we didn’t know ? "Thanks for the run down, much appreciated, but why would you change peoples positions when it was clearly working, that is what I don't understand | |||
"It was inevitable
I only looked in at extra time and we do look out played to be honest
The fact that Kane has played out of position , Lingard has been crap , Sterling has been Sterling , and Rashford has been crap , has shown us that we were flattering to deceive up to this game .
We had the better of the first half , and were well on top . Since then , shite , especially Kane . Maybe he’s injured and we didn’t know ?
Thanks for the run down, much appreciated, but why would you change peoples positions when it was clearly working, that is what I don't understand "Nor do I , as I say maybe he’s injured . If not then it’s inexcusable and bloody crazy  | |||
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"It was inevitable
I only looked in at extra time and we do look out played to be honest
The fact that Kane has played out of position , Lingard has been crap , Sterling has been Sterling , and Rashford has been crap , has shown us that we were flattering to deceive up to this game .
We had the better of the first half , and were well on top . Since then , shite , especially Kane . Maybe he’s injured and we didn’t know ?
Thanks for the run down, much appreciated, but why would you change peoples positions when it was clearly working, that is what I don't understand
Nor do I , as I say maybe he’s injured . If not then it’s inexcusable and bloody crazy "Maybe But it is all over now | |||
"Oh well at least I can get back on slimming world now " | |||
"On the plus side we are a whole lot better than we were 2 years ago "I agree | |||
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"What deodorant does Gareth Southgate wear? Not a single sweat patch on his shirt " I was just thinking that!! | |||
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"What deodorant does Gareth Southgate wear? Not a single sweat patch on his shirt I was just thinking that!!" Probably a vest or sports top under his shirt | |||
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"Disappointed - yes. Proud - yes. Better team won - too much know how from their big names. Young team.....let's get behind them for the future. #lovingthewaistcoats" | |||
"What deodorant does Gareth Southgate wear? Not a single sweat patch on his shirt I was just thinking that!!" In his nail biting job, he doesn’t use any normal deodorant/anti perspirant. No, he uses manly cement to seal those pores shut | |||
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"What deodorant does Gareth Southgate wear? Not a single sweat patch on his shirt " Those 48hr ones work like that. | |||
"Time to Google where the next world cup is" Qatar | |||
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"Time to Google where the next world cup is Qatar" Fuck. That'll be a south American team winning then. | |||
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"We will never get a better chance than we had this time . Croatia were the first half decent team we faced , and we gave it away . That’s as good as it’s going to get I’m afraid , so let’s carry on doing the English thing and say how well they did and how proud we are . I certainly wasn’t proud of that second half and extra time , not one bit . And finally someone else noticed that Kane was playing way too deep , why would you do that ? That was our biggest mistake , playing him as a midfielder . " Our defending was tragic in the second half. What the fuck happened at half time. It's like they had a gangbang, shot their load and just wanted to go to sleep. | |||
"We will never get a better chance than we had this time . Croatia were the first half decent team we faced , and we gave it away . That’s as good as it’s going to get I’m afraid , so let’s carry on doing the English thing and say how well they did and how proud we are . I certainly wasn’t proud of that second half and extra time , not one bit . And finally someone else noticed that Kane was playing way too deep , why would you do that ? That was our biggest mistake , playing him as a midfielder . Our defending was tragic in the second half. What the fuck happened at half time. It's like they had a gangbang, shot their load and just wanted to go to sleep. " Exactly , nothing to be proud of in that . A total disappointment. | |||
"We will never get a better chance than we had this time . Croatia were the first half decent team we faced , and we gave it away . That’s as good as it’s going to get I’m afraid , so let’s carry on doing the English thing and say how well they did and how proud we are . I certainly wasn’t proud of that second half and extra time , not one bit . And finally someone else noticed that Kane was playing way too deep , why would you do that ? That was our biggest mistake , playing him as a midfielder . Our defending was tragic in the second half. What the fuck happened at half time. It's like they had a gangbang, shot their load and just wanted to go to sleep. Exactly , nothing to be proud of in that . A total disappointment." The first goal they scored - yeah well done. The second, 4 fucking England defenders against 1 forward who scores. Most of the team were stood around trying to finger each other. | |||
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"Time to Google where the next world cup is Qatar Fuck. That'll be a south American team winning then. " I'm sure they are playing it between November – December but I could be wrong | |||
"Do you think the Belgium fans are as excited as us about Saturday ?" | |||
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"Do you think the Belgium fans are as excited as us about Saturday ? "As if either team actually want to be arsed now | |||
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"We will never get a better chance than we had this time . Croatia were the first half decent team we faced , and we gave it away . That’s as good as it’s going to get I’m afraid , so let’s carry on doing the English thing and say how well they did and how proud we are . I certainly wasn’t proud of that second half and extra time , not one bit . And finally someone else noticed that Kane was playing way too deep , why would you do that ? That was our biggest mistake , playing him as a midfielder . " And taking off Sterling....did Rashford touch the ball? | |||
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"I'm honestly not disappointed to reach the semi finals with that team. But i don't expect to see a kinder draw in my lifetime. England need to learn to win big games as they'll never get another clear path to the final without facing a former winner. " And that’s exactly what I meant in my post . We didn’t face a single team of any note till Croatia . We will never be that lucky again , not a chance . | |||
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"We will never get a better chance than we had this time . Croatia were the first half decent team we faced , and we gave it away . That’s as good as it’s going to get I’m afraid , so let’s carry on doing the English thing and say how well they did and how proud we are . I certainly wasn’t proud of that second half and extra time , not one bit . And finally someone else noticed that Kane was playing way too deep , why would you do that ? That was our biggest mistake , playing him as a midfielder . And taking off Sterling....did Rashford touch the ball? " I agree that Rashford was crap , but I think Southgate knew that Sterling was never going to score . | |||
"I'm honestly not disappointed to reach the semi finals with that team. But i don't expect to see a kinder draw in my lifetime. England need to learn to win big games as they'll never get another clear path to the final without facing a former winner. And that’s exactly what I meant in my post . We didn’t face a single team of any note till Croatia . We will never be that lucky again , not a chance . " With respect, I wouldn't consider any team a team of note unless they've won it before. | |||
"We will never get a better chance than we had this time . Croatia were the first half decent team we faced , and we gave it away . That’s as good as it’s going to get I’m afraid , so let’s carry on doing the English thing and say how well they did and how proud we are . I certainly wasn’t proud of that second half and extra time , not one bit . And finally someone else noticed that Kane was playing way too deep , why would you do that ? That was our biggest mistake , playing him as a midfielder . And taking off Sterling....did Rashford touch the ball? I agree that Rashford was crap , but I think Southgate knew that Sterling was never going to score ." Southgate needs to either play sterling as a winger or not at all. It's not fair on anyone. | |||
" With respect, I wouldn't consider any team a team of note unless they've won it before. " Go watch the '74 and '78 finals. | |||
" With respect, I wouldn't consider any team a team of note unless they've won it before. Go watch the '74 and '78 finals." Because the Netherlands have reached 3 finals and ch0ked in all of them? | |||
" With respect, I wouldn't consider any team a team of note unless they've won it before. Go watch the '74 and '78 finals. Because the Netherlands have reached 3 finals and ch0ked in all of them? " Best team to never win without a doubt . | |||
" With respect, I wouldn't consider any team a team of note unless they've won it before. Go watch the '74 and '78 finals. Because the Netherlands have reached 3 finals and ch0ked in all of them? " You haven't seen them then have you. | |||
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" With respect, I wouldn't consider any team a team of note unless they've won it before. " So by the quarter finals would be Brazil, France, Uruguay or England which 3 of them got to the semis | |||
" With respect, I wouldn't consider any team a team of note unless they've won it before. So by the quarter finals would be Brazil, France, Uruguay or England which 3 of them got to the semis" Yes it was a very unusual draw | |||
" With respect, I wouldn't consider any team a team of note unless they've won it before. Go watch the '74 and '78 finals. Because the Netherlands have reached 3 finals and ch0ked in all of them? You haven't seen them then have you." Strangely, no. You do love obscure references. | |||
" With respect, I wouldn't consider any team a team of note unless they've won it before. Go watch the '74 and '78 finals. Because the Netherlands have reached 3 finals and ch0ked in all of them? You haven't seen them then have you. Strangely, no. You do love obscure references. " Didn't think so, otherwise you wouldn't have come out with such a ridiculous qualifier. Nothing obscure about Totaalvoetbal. | |||
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"I'm honestly not disappointed to reach the semi finals with that team. But i don't expect to see a kinder draw in my lifetime. England need to learn to win big games as they'll never get another clear path to the final without facing a former winner. And that’s exactly what I meant in my post . We didn’t face a single team of any note till Croatia . We will never be that lucky again , not a chance . With respect, I wouldn't consider any team a team of note unless they've won it before. " Bit harsh on croatia too - in competitive matches we had an even record with them before tonight - won 2 lost 2. People forget how good they are, that midfield - wow | |||
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"Experience of Croatia won it against the Inexperience of a young England side, but this side will win things in the near future, it was a good learning curve for them. The future looks good under the Waistcoat . #ProudLion"I hope they remember the pain. I'm sure they can use it for future tournaments. I've seen it spur so many teams on but that's usually in club football the very next season | |||
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"England will never will a major tournament That was by far your best ever chance You won't get a draw as good again Football just isn't your sport Accept that" Come on who's going to bite the hardest | |||
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"Experience of Croatia won it against the Inexperience of a young England side, but this side will win things in the near future, it was a good learning curve for them. The future looks good under the Waistcoat . #ProudLion"I disagree. It wasn’t experience that won them the game it was a hell of a lot of generosity from the ref. They were throwing elbows every time we got into the box, cropping our last man a few times and purposely wasting extra time by having their older players bullying our young lads. I’m proud of how we played I’m just bitterly disappointed that they were awarding corners as goal kicks and blatantly disregarding the visual proof that the technology provides. To me it was a shambles in that respect. | |||
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"Experience of Croatia won it against the Inexperience of a young England side, but this side will win things in the near future, it was a good learning curve for them. The future looks good under the Waistcoat . #ProudLion
I disagree. It wasn’t experience that won them the game it was a hell of a lot of generosity from the ref. They were throwing elbows every time we got into the box, cropping our last man a few times and purposely wasting extra time by having their older players bullying our young lads.
I’m proud of how we played I’m just bitterly disappointed that they were awarding corners as goal kicks and blatantly disregarding the visual proof that the technology provides. To me it was a shambles in that respect."He we go with the same old excuses There was no dirty play there last night apart from a bit of time wasting that's part of the game You didn't progress because you didn't deserve too The best team won. They made some chances from play and took them when it mattered | |||
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"Experience of Croatia won it against the Inexperience of a young England side, but this side will win things in the near future, it was a good learning curve for them. The future looks good under the Waistcoat . #ProudLion
I disagree. It wasn’t experience that won them the game it was a hell of a lot of generosity from the ref. They were throwing elbows every time we got into the box, cropping our last man a few times and purposely wasting extra time by having their older players bullying our young lads.
I’m proud of how we played I’m just bitterly disappointed that they were awarding corners as goal kicks and blatantly disregarding the visual proof that the technology provides. To me it was a shambles in that respect."We survived Columbia, I'm sure mummy's little soldiers can handle it. Our attacking play was dire. It wasn't the elbows that were the problem, it was the fact that it was generally 2 England forwards against 5 defenders in the box. | |||
"And this is the end "The End - The Doors
www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSUIQgEVDM4 | |||
"Experience of Croatia won it against the Inexperience of a young England side, but this side will win things in the near future, it was a good learning curve for them. The future looks good under the Waistcoat . #ProudLion
I disagree. It wasn’t experience that won them the game it was a hell of a lot of generosity from the ref. They were throwing elbows every time we got into the box, cropping our last man a few times and purposely wasting extra time by having their older players bullying our young lads.
I’m proud of how we played I’m just bitterly disappointed that they were awarding corners as goal kicks and blatantly disregarding the visual proof that the technology provides. To me it was a shambles in that respect.
We survived Columbia, I'm sure mummy's little soldiers can handle it. Our attacking play was dire. It wasn't the elbows that were the problem, it was the fact that it was generally 2 England forwards against 5 defenders in the box. "Kane should of scored from 12" out or passed it for an open goal. He then missed a header with a minute to go. Stones shouldn't of switched off, Walker shouldn't of been beaten to that ball. It's small margins | |||
"England will never will a major tournament That was by far your best ever chance You won't get a draw as good again Football just isn't your sport Accept that Come on who's going to bite the hardest" I'll give it a damned good go 
England have a young team and a young manager, which can only be good, they are not classed as the "Golden Generation", and have given it the best that they can.
As I said in another thread, a big up to all the players and management, I know all the other teams will be looking to move on and improve, but we now hve a sound base for the future under Southgate's tenure I believe
Bring on the Krauts | |||
"England will never will a major tournament That was by far your best ever chance You won't get a draw as good again Football just isn't your sport Accept that" | |||
"Experience of Croatia won it against the Inexperience of a young England side, but this side will win things in the near future, it was a good learning curve for them. The future looks good under the Waistcoat . #ProudLion
I disagree. It wasn’t experience that won them the game it was a hell of a lot of generosity from the ref. They were throwing elbows every time we got into the box, cropping our last man a few times and purposely wasting extra time by having their older players bullying our young lads.
I’m proud of how we played I’m just bitterly disappointed that they were awarding corners as goal kicks and blatantly disregarding the visual proof that the technology provides. To me it was a shambles in that respect.
We survived Columbia, I'm sure mummy's little soldiers can handle it. Our attacking play was dire. It wasn't the elbows that were the problem, it was the fact that it was generally 2 England forwards against 5 defenders in the box.
Kane should of scored from 12" out or passed it for an open goal. He then missed a header with a minute to go.
Stones shouldn't of switched off, Walker shouldn't of been beaten to that ball.
It's small margins"Indeed, on balance they less mistakes like this than we did. As a rule of thumb, you need to take 9 shots for 1 goal. We had 11 shots, they had 22. They won 2-1. No complaints here. | |||
"England will never will a major tournament That was by far your best ever chance You won't get a draw as good again Football just isn't your sport Accept that Come on who's going to bite the hardest I'll give it a damned good go
England have a young team and a young manager, which can only be good, they are not classed as the "Golden Generation", and have given it the best that they can.
As I said in another thread, a big up to all the players and management, I know all the other teams will be looking to move on and improve, but we now hve a sound base for the future under Southgate's tenure I believe
Bring on the Krauts "All this talk of this just being the start of big things to come is ignoring how much England's luck of the draw played in them getting this far. First decent team they met and out If england had of went out creating a few chances or played exciting football that would be one thing but they didnt Goals from set pieces are good but not when that's all you have Next tournament every team will be drilled on what to do for your line of players for corners and the like | |||
"As a rule of thumb, you need to take 9 shots for 1 goal." Qué? | |||
"Let's hope we give Belgium a good game anyway "Yes and hope he gives some of the others a run out | |||
"England will never will a major tournament That was by far your best ever chance You won't get a draw as good again Football just isn't your sport Accept that Come on who's going to bite the hardest I'll give it a damned good go
England have a young team and a young manager, which can only be good, they are not classed as the "Golden Generation", and have given it the best that they can.
As I said in another thread, a big up to all the players and management, I know all the other teams will be looking to move on and improve, but we now hve a sound base for the future under Southgate's tenure I believe
Bring on the Krauts
All this talk of this just being the start of big things to come is ignoring how much England's luck of the draw played in them getting this far. First decent team they met and out
If england had of went out creating a few chances or played exciting football that would be one thing but they didnt
Goals from set pieces are good but not when that's all you have
Next tournament every team will be drilled on what to do for your line of players for corners and the like"Just calling it England's luck of the draw is doing a massive disservice to the teams that played them. Colombia - good, strong side with a very physical nature. Sadly they chose not to go toe-to-toe with England but just kick them off the park. This is a side who knocked out a good Senegal team, yes we'd expect England to be up there with them, but a win is far from guaranteed. Sweden - we completely outplayed them. This is the same Sweden side that matched Germany and should've really come away with something from that game, then absolutely stuffed Mexico, who again are an impressive, fit and energetic side. Croatia, strong organised defence, with arguably the best international midfield in the world. They've proven they're easily a better team than Germany, Spain, Argentina etc in this world cup. We'll see on Sunday, but I believe they'll give France 1 hell of a game. Their midfield is better, it's just a question of whether Kante can keep Modric out the game and then can Croatia deal with Mbappe's pace. I'd be surprised if it's as one sided as people have been suggesting, I've seen numerous people saying it's a foregone conclusion and will be at least 4 or 5-0! You can only beat what's put in front of you and England did that. Out of interest, as football isn't England's sport (we have a fair bit of competition from other sports that we seem to do alright in) what is Scotland's sport?  | |||
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"England will never will a major tournament That was by far your best ever chance You won't get a draw as good again Football just isn't your sport Accept that Come on who's going to bite the hardest I'll give it a damned good go
England have a young team and a young manager, which can only be good, they are not classed as the "Golden Generation", and have given it the best that they can.
As I said in another thread, a big up to all the players and management, I know all the other teams will be looking to move on and improve, but we now hve a sound base for the future under Southgate's tenure I believe
Bring on the Krauts
All this talk of this just being the start of big things to come is ignoring how much England's luck of the draw played in them getting this far. First decent team they met and out
If england had of went out creating a few chances or played exciting football that would be one thing but they didnt
Goals from set pieces are good but not when that's all you have
Next tournament every team will be drilled on what to do for your line of players for corners and the like
Just calling it England's luck of the draw is doing a massive disservice to the teams that played them. Colombia - good, strong side with a very physical nature. Sadly they chose not to go toe-to-toe with England but just kick them off the park. This is a side who knocked out a good Senegal team, yes we'd expect England to be up there with them, but a win is far from guaranteed.
Sweden - we completely outplayed them. This is the same Sweden side that matched Germany and should've really come away with something from that game, then absolutely stuffed Mexico, who again are an impressive, fit and energetic side.
Croatia, strong organised defence, with arguably the best international midfield in the world. They've proven they're easily a better team than Germany, Spain, Argentina etc in this world cup.
We'll see on Sunday, but I believe they'll give France 1 hell of a game. Their midfield is better, it's just a question of whether Kante can keep Modric out the game and then can Croatia deal with Mbappe's pace. I'd be surprised if it's as one sided as people have been suggesting, I've seen numerous people saying it's a foregone conclusion and will be at least 4 or 5-0!
You can only beat what's put in front of you and England did that.
Out of interest, as football isn't England's sport (we have a fair bit of competition from other sports that we seem to do alright in) what is Scotland's sport?"I have no idea I'm irish
All our best athletes play gaa
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"England will never will a major tournament That was by far your best ever chance You won't get a draw as good again Football just isn't your sport Accept that Come on who's going to bite the hardest I'll give it a damned good go
England have a young team and a young manager, which can only be good, they are not classed as the "Golden Generation", and have given it the best that they can.
As I said in another thread, a big up to all the players and management, I know all the other teams will be looking to move on and improve, but we now hve a sound base for the future under Southgate's tenure I believe
Bring on the Krauts
All this talk of this just being the start of big things to come is ignoring how much England's luck of the draw played in them getting this far. First decent team they met and out
If england had of went out creating a few chances or played exciting football that would be one thing but they didnt
Goals from set pieces are good but not when that's all you have
Next tournament every team will be drilled on what to do for your line of players for corners and the like
Just calling it England's luck of the draw is doing a massive disservice to the teams that played them. Colombia - good, strong side with a very physical nature. Sadly they chose not to go toe-to-toe with England but just kick them off the park. This is a side who knocked out a good Senegal team, yes we'd expect England to be up there with them, but a win is far from guaranteed.
Sweden - we completely outplayed them. This is the same Sweden side that matched Germany and should've really come away with something from that game, then absolutely stuffed Mexico, who again are an impressive, fit and energetic side.
Croatia, strong organised defence, with arguably the best international midfield in the world. They've proven they're easily a better team than Germany, Spain, Argentina etc in this world cup.
We'll see on Sunday, but I believe they'll give France 1 hell of a game. Their midfield is better, it's just a question of whether Kante can keep Modric out the game and then can Croatia deal with Mbappe's pace. I'd be surprised if it's as one sided as people have been suggesting, I've seen numerous people saying it's a foregone conclusion and will be at least 4 or 5-0!
You can only beat what's put in front of you and England did that.
Out of interest, as football isn't England's sport (we have a fair bit of competition from other sports that we seem to do alright in) what is Scotland's sport?
I have no idea
I'm irish
All our best athletes play gaa
"Haha, apologies I read it as kilbride not kildare. Maybe what you've said sums it up, a sport that pretty much only you guys play (nothing wrong with that, but hardly gives you ground to mock others who are outperforming you by far in pretty much every sport going). Maybe sport just isn't your thing... accept that | |||
"England will never will a major tournament That was by far your best ever chance You won't get a draw as good again Football just isn't your sport Accept that Come on who's going to bite the hardest I'll give it a damned good go
England have a young team and a young manager, which can only be good, they are not classed as the "Golden Generation", and have given it the best that they can.
As I said in another thread, a big up to all the players and management, I know all the other teams will be looking to move on and improve, but we now hve a sound base for the future under Southgate's tenure I believe
Bring on the Krauts
All this talk of this just being the start of big things to come is ignoring how much England's luck of the draw played in them getting this far. First decent team they met and out
If england had of went out creating a few chances or played exciting football that would be one thing but they didnt
Goals from set pieces are good but not when that's all you have
Next tournament every team will be drilled on what to do for your line of players for corners and the like
Just calling it England's luck of the draw is doing a massive disservice to the teams that played them. Colombia - good, strong side with a very physical nature. Sadly they chose not to go toe-to-toe with England but just kick them off the park. This is a side who knocked out a good Senegal team, yes we'd expect England to be up there with them, but a win is far from guaranteed.
Sweden - we completely outplayed them. This is the same Sweden side that matched Germany and should've really come away with something from that game, then absolutely stuffed Mexico, who again are an impressive, fit and energetic side.
Croatia, strong organised defence, with arguably the best international midfield in the world. They've proven they're easily a better team than Germany, Spain, Argentina etc in this world cup.
We'll see on Sunday, but I believe they'll give France 1 hell of a game. Their midfield is better, it's just a question of whether Kante can keep Modric out the game and then can Croatia deal with Mbappe's pace. I'd be surprised if it's as one sided as people have been suggesting, I've seen numerous people saying it's a foregone conclusion and will be at least 4 or 5-0!
You can only beat what's put in front of you and England did that.
Out of interest, as football isn't England's sport (we have a fair bit of competition from other sports that we seem to do alright in) what is Scotland's sport?
I have no idea
I'm irish
All our best athletes play gaa
Haha, apologies I read it as kilbride not kildare.
Maybe what you've said sums it up, a sport that pretty much only you guys play (nothing wrong with that, but hardly gives you ground to mock others who are outperforming you by far in pretty much every sport going).
Maybe sport just isn't your thing... accept that "We play soccer ball too and punch well above our weight its just not that important to us We take our gaa and rugby seriously here we only play football for the craic | |||
"England will never will a major tournament That was by far your best ever chance You won't get a draw as good again Football just isn't your sport Accept that Come on who's going to bite the hardest I'll give it a damned good go
England have a young team and a young manager, which can only be good, they are not classed as the "Golden Generation", and have given it the best that they can.
As I said in another thread, a big up to all the players and management, I know all the other teams will be looking to move on and improve, but we now hve a sound base for the future under Southgate's tenure I believe
Bring on the Krauts
All this talk of this just being the start of big things to come is ignoring how much England's luck of the draw played in them getting this far. First decent team they met and out
If england had of went out creating a few chances or played exciting football that would be one thing but they didnt
Goals from set pieces are good but not when that's all you have
Next tournament every team will be drilled on what to do for your line of players for corners and the like
Just calling it England's luck of the draw is doing a massive disservice to the teams that played them. Colombia - good, strong side with a very physical nature. Sadly they chose not to go toe-to-toe with England but just kick them off the park. This is a side who knocked out a good Senegal team, yes we'd expect England to be up there with them, but a win is far from guaranteed.
Sweden - we completely outplayed them. This is the same Sweden side that matched Germany and should've really come away with something from that game, then absolutely stuffed Mexico, who again are an impressive, fit and energetic side.
Croatia, strong organised defence, with arguably the best international midfield in the world. They've proven they're easily a better team than Germany, Spain, Argentina etc in this world cup.
We'll see on Sunday, but I believe they'll give France 1 hell of a game. Their midfield is better, it's just a question of whether Kante can keep Modric out the game and then can Croatia deal with Mbappe's pace. I'd be surprised if it's as one sided as people have been suggesting, I've seen numerous people saying it's a foregone conclusion and will be at least 4 or 5-0!
You can only beat what's put in front of you and England did that.
Out of interest, as football isn't England's sport (we have a fair bit of competition from other sports that we seem to do alright in) what is Scotland's sport?
I have no idea
I'm irish
All our best athletes play gaa
Haha, apologies I read it as kilbride not kildare.
Maybe what you've said sums it up, a sport that pretty much only you guys play (nothing wrong with that, but hardly gives you ground to mock others who are outperforming you by far in pretty much every sport going).
Maybe sport just isn't your thing... accept that
We play soccer ball too and punch well above our weight its just not that important to us
We take our gaa and rugby seriously here we only play football for the craic "Pretty decent in hockey as well, or at least the men are | |||
"England will never will a major tournament That was by far your best ever chance You won't get a draw as good again Football just isn't your sport Accept that Come on who's going to bite the hardest I'll give it a damned good go
England have a young team and a young manager, which can only be good, they are not classed as the "Golden Generation", and have given it the best that they can.
As I said in another thread, a big up to all the players and management, I know all the other teams will be looking to move on and improve, but we now hve a sound base for the future under Southgate's tenure I believe
Bring on the Krauts
All this talk of this just being the start of big things to come is ignoring how much England's luck of the draw played in them getting this far. First decent team they met and out
If england had of went out creating a few chances or played exciting football that would be one thing but they didnt
Goals from set pieces are good but not when that's all you have
Next tournament every team will be drilled on what to do for your line of players for corners and the like
Just calling it England's luck of the draw is doing a massive disservice to the teams that played them. Colombia - good, strong side with a very physical nature. Sadly they chose not to go toe-to-toe with England but just kick them off the park. This is a side who knocked out a good Senegal team, yes we'd expect England to be up there with them, but a win is far from guaranteed.
Sweden - we completely outplayed them. This is the same Sweden side that matched Germany and should've really come away with something from that game, then absolutely stuffed Mexico, who again are an impressive, fit and energetic side.
Croatia, strong organised defence, with arguably the best international midfield in the world. They've proven they're easily a better team than Germany, Spain, Argentina etc in this world cup.
We'll see on Sunday, but I believe they'll give France 1 hell of a game. Their midfield is better, it's just a question of whether Kante can keep Modric out the game and then can Croatia deal with Mbappe's pace. I'd be surprised if it's as one sided as people have been suggesting, I've seen numerous people saying it's a foregone conclusion and will be at least 4 or 5-0!
You can only beat what's put in front of you and England did that.
Out of interest, as football isn't England's sport (we have a fair bit of competition from other sports that we seem to do alright in) what is Scotland's sport?
I have no idea
I'm irish
All our best athletes play gaa
Haha, apologies I read it as kilbride not kildare.
Maybe what you've said sums it up, a sport that pretty much only you guys play (nothing wrong with that, but hardly gives you ground to mock others who are outperforming you by far in pretty much every sport going).
Maybe sport just isn't your thing... accept that
We play soccer ball too and punch well above our weight its just not that important to us
We take our gaa and rugby seriously here we only play football for the craic "Were you not shit at rugby until the English boys took over your mob and started telling them how to play the game? | |||
"England will never will a major tournament That was by far your best ever chance You won't get a draw as good again Football just isn't your sport Accept that Come on who's going to bite the hardest I'll give it a damned good go
England have a young team and a young manager, which can only be good, they are not classed as the "Golden Generation", and have given it the best that they can.
As I said in another thread, a big up to all the players and management, I know all the other teams will be looking to move on and improve, but we now hve a sound base for the future under Southgate's tenure I believe
Bring on the Krauts
All this talk of this just being the start of big things to come is ignoring how much England's luck of the draw played in them getting this far. First decent team they met and out
If england had of went out creating a few chances or played exciting football that would be one thing but they didnt
Goals from set pieces are good but not when that's all you have
Next tournament every team will be drilled on what to do for your line of players for corners and the like
Just calling it England's luck of the draw is doing a massive disservice to the teams that played them. Colombia - good, strong side with a very physical nature. Sadly they chose not to go toe-to-toe with England but just kick them off the park. This is a side who knocked out a good Senegal team, yes we'd expect England to be up there with them, but a win is far from guaranteed.
Sweden - we completely outplayed them. This is the same Sweden side that matched Germany and should've really come away with something from that game, then absolutely stuffed Mexico, who again are an impressive, fit and energetic side.
Croatia, strong organised defence, with arguably the best international midfield in the world. They've proven they're easily a better team than Germany, Spain, Argentina etc in this world cup.
We'll see on Sunday, but I believe they'll give France 1 hell of a game. Their midfield is better, it's just a question of whether Kante can keep Modric out the game and then can Croatia deal with Mbappe's pace. I'd be surprised if it's as one sided as people have been suggesting, I've seen numerous people saying it's a foregone conclusion and will be at least 4 or 5-0!
You can only beat what's put in front of you and England did that.
Out of interest, as football isn't England's sport (we have a fair bit of competition from other sports that we seem to do alright in) what is Scotland's sport?
I have no idea
I'm irish
All our best athletes play gaa
Haha, apologies I read it as kilbride not kildare.
Maybe what you've said sums it up, a sport that pretty much only you guys play (nothing wrong with that, but hardly gives you ground to mock others who are outperforming you by far in pretty much every sport going).
Maybe sport just isn't your thing... accept that
We play soccer ball too and punch well above our weight its just not that important to us
We take our gaa and rugby seriously here we only play football for the craic
Were you not shit at rugby until the English boys took over your mob and started telling them how to play the game? "They should have stayed at home and helped you guys and we mightn't have hammered you on the way to our grand slam this year
I have no idea but I hope you guys are at least good at cricket? | |||
"England will never will a major tournament That was by far your best ever chance You won't get a draw as good again Football just isn't your sport Accept that Come on who's going to bite the hardest I'll give it a damned good go
England have a young team and a young manager, which can only be good, they are not classed as the "Golden Generation", and have given it the best that they can.
As I said in another thread, a big up to all the players and management, I know all the other teams will be looking to move on and improve, but we now hve a sound base for the future under Southgate's tenure I believe
Bring on the Krauts
All this talk of this just being the start of big things to come is ignoring how much England's luck of the draw played in them getting this far. First decent team they met and out
If england had of went out creating a few chances or played exciting football that would be one thing but they didnt
Goals from set pieces are good but not when that's all you have
Next tournament every team will be drilled on what to do for your line of players for corners and the like
Just calling it England's luck of the draw is doing a massive disservice to the teams that played them. Colombia - good, strong side with a very physical nature. Sadly they chose not to go toe-to-toe with England but just kick them off the park. This is a side who knocked out a good Senegal team, yes we'd expect England to be up there with them, but a win is far from guaranteed.
Sweden - we completely outplayed them. This is the same Sweden side that matched Germany and should've really come away with something from that game, then absolutely stuffed Mexico, who again are an impressive, fit and energetic side.
Croatia, strong organised defence, with arguably the best international midfield in the world. They've proven they're easily a better team than Germany, Spain, Argentina etc in this world cup.
We'll see on Sunday, but I believe they'll give France 1 hell of a game. Their midfield is better, it's just a question of whether Kante can keep Modric out the game and then can Croatia deal with Mbappe's pace. I'd be surprised if it's as one sided as people have been suggesting, I've seen numerous people saying it's a foregone conclusion and will be at least 4 or 5-0!
You can only beat what's put in front of you and England did that.
Out of interest, as football isn't England's sport (we have a fair bit of competition from other sports that we seem to do alright in) what is Scotland's sport?
I have no idea
I'm irish
All our best athletes play gaa
Haha, apologies I read it as kilbride not kildare.
Maybe what you've said sums it up, a sport that pretty much only you guys play (nothing wrong with that, but hardly gives you ground to mock others who are outperforming you by far in pretty much every sport going).
Maybe sport just isn't your thing... accept that
We play soccer ball too and punch well above our weight its just not that important to us
We take our gaa and rugby seriously here we only play football for the craic "Punch well above your weight?! It's your most popular sport participant wise (gaa beats it as an attended spectator sport as you have a poor football league). You didn't reach the world cup - many would say you underachieved. Then you mention rugby - after telling us that going out in the semi finals of the football world cup (in a far more competitive sport that really is played worldwide) shows that it's 'just not our sport'. Well let me just clarify as I'm unsure on this but... when did Ireland last win the rugby world cup? To take it further, when did they last make the semi finals of a rugby world cup? Maybe it's just not your sport, accept that! | |||
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"England will never will a major tournament That was by far your best ever chance You won't get a draw as good again Football just isn't your sport Accept that Come on who's going to bite the hardest I'll give it a damned good go
England have a young team and a young manager, which can only be good, they are not classed as the "Golden Generation", and have given it the best that they can.
As I said in another thread, a big up to all the players and management, I know all the other teams will be looking to move on and improve, but we now hve a sound base for the future under Southgate's tenure I believe
Bring on the Krauts
All this talk of this just being the start of big things to come is ignoring how much England's luck of the draw played in them getting this far. First decent team they met and out
If england had of went out creating a few chances or played exciting football that would be one thing but they didnt
Goals from set pieces are good but not when that's all you have
Next tournament every team will be drilled on what to do for your line of players for corners and the like
Just calling it England's luck of the draw is doing a massive disservice to the teams that played them. Colombia - good, strong side with a very physical nature. Sadly they chose not to go toe-to-toe with England but just kick them off the park. This is a side who knocked out a good Senegal team, yes we'd expect England to be up there with them, but a win is far from guaranteed.
Sweden - we completely outplayed them. This is the same Sweden side that matched Germany and should've really come away with something from that game, then absolutely stuffed Mexico, who again are an impressive, fit and energetic side.
Croatia, strong organised defence, with arguably the best international midfield in the world. They've proven they're easily a better team than Germany, Spain, Argentina etc in this world cup.
We'll see on Sunday, but I believe they'll give France 1 hell of a game. Their midfield is better, it's just a question of whether Kante can keep Modric out the game and then can Croatia deal with Mbappe's pace. I'd be surprised if it's as one sided as people have been suggesting, I've seen numerous people saying it's a foregone conclusion and will be at least 4 or 5-0!
You can only beat what's put in front of you and England did that.
Out of interest, as football isn't England's sport (we have a fair bit of competition from other sports that we seem to do alright in) what is Scotland's sport?
I have no idea
I'm irish
All our best athletes play gaa
Haha, apologies I read it as kilbride not kildare.
Maybe what you've said sums it up, a sport that pretty much only you guys play (nothing wrong with that, but hardly gives you ground to mock others who are outperforming you by far in pretty much every sport going).
Maybe sport just isn't your thing... accept that
We play soccer ball too and punch well above our weight its just not that important to us
We take our gaa and rugby seriously here we only play football for the craic
Punch well above your weight?! It's your most popular sport participant wise (gaa beats it as an attended spectator sport as you have a poor football league). You didn't reach the world cup - many would say you underachieved.
Then you mention rugby - after telling us that going out in the semi finals of the football world cup (in a far more competitive sport that really is played worldwide) shows that it's 'just not our sport'.
Well let me just clarify as I'm unsure on this but... when did Ireland last win the rugby world cup? To take it further, when did they last make the semi finals of a rugby world cup?
Maybe it's just not your sport, accept that!"Gaa is the most played sports in our country by far not just spectators They are played and supported fanatically From villages to inner city Dublin and north and south its the only thing we all agree on just some say hurling is the best sport in the world others say Gaelic football is The other sports have to compete against that for players and we are to only ad big as Manchester in the first place Considering all that I think we punch above our weight in foreign sports | |||
"Maybe it's just not your sport, accept that! Gaa is the most played sports in our country by far not just spectators They are played and supported fanatically From villages to inner city Dublin and north and south its the only thing we all agree on just some say hurling is the best sport in the world others say Gaelic football is The other sports have to compete against that for players and we are to only ad big as Manchester in the first place Considering all that I think we punch above our weight in foreign sports " I hate to say this as my point was never to slate Irish sport, merely to show English sport deserves a bit more credit but...you're wrong. Football (soccer) is by far the most played sport in Ireland, all the stats show this. Then in terms of size - I presume we're talking population? Unless you've lost a few million people somewhere then you're a LOT bigger than Manchester as a city. If we're talking the area of Greater Manchester which encompasses a number of other large towns and cities, then it's a bit closer, but still a long way off. Also, Greater Manchester hasn't done too badly at providing sportsmen and women (it pains me to say that as a Yorkshireman). Speaking of Yorkshire, that'd be a more fair comparison - granted, we're slightly bigger. In that case you might be really struggling as Yorkshire sport is thriving - I dare say if we were our own (Fifa) nation we'd probably be above Ireland with the players we're producing at the moment, we wouldn't have done too badly as a stand alone nation at the olympics (above Ireland I believe), even provide winter olympians and then there are other sports such as rugby league where we have a number of good teams and players. So no, Ireland aren't doing too badly, in fact they're quite impressive. Just not as impressive as say...England at the moment. | |||
"Maybe it's just not your sport, accept that! Gaa is the most played sports in our country by far not just spectators They are played and supported fanatically From villages to inner city Dublin and north and south its the only thing we all agree on just some say hurling is the best sport in the world others say Gaelic football is The other sports have to compete against that for players and we are to only ad big as Manchester in the first place Considering all that I think we punch above our weight in foreign sports I hate to say this as my point was never to slate Irish sport, merely to show English sport deserves a bit more credit but...you're wrong. Football (soccer) is by far the most played sport in Ireland, all the stats show this. Then in terms of size - I presume we're talking population? Unless you've lost a few million people somewhere then you're a LOT bigger than Manchester as a city. If we're talking the area of Greater Manchester which encompasses a number of other large towns and cities, then it's a bit closer, but still a long way off. Also, Greater Manchester hasn't done too badly at providing sportsmen and women (it pains me to say that as a Yorkshireman). Speaking of Yorkshire, that'd be a more fair comparison - granted, we're slightly bigger. In that case you might be really struggling as Yorkshire sport is thriving - I dare say if we were our own (Fifa) nation we'd probably be above Ireland with the players we're producing at the moment, we wouldn't have done too badly as a stand alone nation at the olympics (above Ireland I believe), even provide winter olympians and then there are other sports such as rugby league where we have a number of good teams and players. So no, Ireland aren't doing too badly, in fact they're quite impressive. Just not as impressive as say...England at the moment." It's irrelevant to this post really but I think what he's trying to say the gaa being our oldest sport in ireland has always taken our most talented athletes and from my experience I think that's still the case..yes we have a poor football team no doubt but I guess what I'm trying to say is with the love of football plus the population in England I struggle to understand how ye haven't become a more dominant force in the football world.. Somthing is a miss but what who knows...great achievement all the same and well done | |||
"Maybe it's just not your sport, accept that! Gaa is the most played sports in our country by far not just spectators They are played and supported fanatically From villages to inner city Dublin and north and south its the only thing we all agree on just some say hurling is the best sport in the world others say Gaelic football is The other sports have to compete against that for players and we are to only ad big as Manchester in the first place Considering all that I think we punch above our weight in foreign sports I hate to say this as my point was never to slate Irish sport, merely to show English sport deserves a bit more credit but...you're wrong. Football (soccer) is by far the most played sport in Ireland, all the stats show this. Then in terms of size - I presume we're talking population? Unless you've lost a few million people somewhere then you're a LOT bigger than Manchester as a city. If we're talking the area of Greater Manchester which encompasses a number of other large towns and cities, then it's a bit closer, but still a long way off. Also, Greater Manchester hasn't done too badly at providing sportsmen and women (it pains me to say that as a Yorkshireman). Speaking of Yorkshire, that'd be a more fair comparison - granted, we're slightly bigger. In that case you might be really struggling as Yorkshire sport is thriving - I dare say if we were our own (Fifa) nation we'd probably be above Ireland with the players we're producing at the moment, we wouldn't have done too badly as a stand alone nation at the olympics (above Ireland I believe), even provide winter olympians and then there are other sports such as rugby league where we have a number of good teams and players. So no, Ireland aren't doing too badly, in fact they're quite impressive. Just not as impressive as say...England at the moment." Well that's exactly my point Its more realistic comparing yourself to little old Ireland and the like of us than thinking ridiculously that you have a chance of winning the WC and every other tournament you enter yet time after time put out overhyped shit teams that go nowhere You are a second rate team like us and Scotland et el and the Frances and Brazil's and Spain's of this world are on a while different level than us But having said that this is the best English team I've seen and they done well | |||
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" Well that's exactly my point Its more realistic comparing yourself to little old Ireland and the like of us than thinking ridiculously that you have a chance of winning the WC and every other tournament you enter yet time after time put out overhyped shit teams that go nowhere You are a second rate team like us and Scotland et el and the Frances and Brazil's and Spain's of this world are on a while different level than us But having said that this is the best English team I've seen and they done well" Which generally is the case - at the start of this tournament many predicted group stage exit, with nobody suggesting we'd even get close to a semi final. The fact is we overperformed and exceeded expectations. The difference is, when we punch above our weight we come close to a world cup (yes this time we were genuinely close). Ireland punch above their weight and make the play offs. Anyone who knows football knows England did better than many of the nations you mention, putting us in their category. To say we're not in Spain's category - come on! People are too persuaded by a big name. Look at Argentina - a very poor team. If I was Icelandic I'd be bitterly disappointed that they went out to a team that is worse than them. People say 'But Messi, aguero, higuain' clearly don't understand the game. It's a team sport. The best individuals don't win, the best team does. Argentina are currently a poor poor team, not even close to England. Spain are not currently as good as England as they are too predictable and toothless in attack. Germany are a shadow of their former selves with the weight of expectation on them and poor mix of players who have little energy or again penetration. Uruguay - very good team. Outstanding defence, great in attack, lacking in midfield. Cavani injury played a huge part as they have little back up. England are at a similar level to them. Portugal - poor side, relying on 1 player, proving it's a team game. Not as good as England. So looking at it, the teams better than England at the moment - Belgium, France, Croatia, Brazil. That's not bad for someone who should be comparing to 'little old Ireland'. So can we dare to dream - yes. Should we dare to dream - yes. Should Ireland dream of winning the rugby world cup - yes! It's as unlikely as England's winning the football world cup but it's not unrealistic. I'd love to see you do it - of England go out I'd support you all the way - it just seems odd the way the English are hated so much in sport! | |||
" It's irrelevant to this post really but I think what he's trying to say the gaa being our oldest sport in ireland has always taken our most talented athletes and from my experience I think that's still the case..yes we have a poor football team no doubt but I guess what I'm trying to say is with the love of football plus the population in England I struggle to understand how ye haven't become a more dominant force in the football world.. Somthing is a miss but what who knows...great achievement all the same and well done "I agree in some respects but that's the same for England (cricket, rugby league, rugby union, swimming, athletics etc etc etc all take potential football players away) I don't think you have a poor football team, they're pretty good! But when someone Irish mocks England its like a Leeds fan mocking man utd fans for going out in the champions league semi final and saying they should just accept they're crap. That would be ridiculous. In comparison to population size we're 25th biggest country in the world. Keeping in mind other sports, history, participation within those countries etc you'd expect us to be roughly top 10. I'd say we're usually exactly where we should be, but this time we overperformed and did well. | |||
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"How right can u be eh? A step forward but still a long way to go Yep , a one sided affair I’m afraid . I’m not happy to say it , but the truth is rarely easy to bear ." Agreed, but Southgate seems to be talking like he knows the score and maybe with a few younger players coming through and with the benefit of the experience they can move forward and improve in the euros | |||
"I was glad to read Southgate saying that as yet England haven’t beaten any of the top teams In competitive open play since he’s been in charge . Which has been my point throughout , and what makes a nonsense of all this talk of heroes and so on . Of course they did their best , despite the noteable absence of Harry Kane in the last two games . And their best wasn’t enough when they faced the first half decent team they played . If Belgium want to win later , they will , and by a country mile . If they don’t , they will probably still win but maybe just 2-1 or 1-0 . However , if Kane is fit and plays like he did in the first two games we may get a result , but only if Belgium can’t be arsed to try ." I'm impressed by southgate saying that There's hope for him Didn't see the match but their still the best all round English team I've seen in my time Maybe credit to southgate for seeing they didn't have that creativity and done well with what they had from set pieces If you can get just one player with that bit extra that's a very different team | |||
"I was glad to read Southgate saying that as yet England haven’t beaten any of the top teams In competitive open play since he’s been in charge . Which has been my point throughout , and what makes a nonsense of all this talk of heroes and so on . Of course they did their best , despite the noteable absence of Harry Kane in the last two games . And their best wasn’t enough when they faced the first half decent team they played . If Belgium want to win later , they will , and by a country mile . If they don’t , they will probably still win but maybe just 2-1 or 1-0 . However , if Kane is fit and plays like he did in the first two games we may get a result , but only if Belgium can’t be arsed to try . I'm impressed by southgate saying that There's hope for him Didn't see the match but their still the best all round English team I've seen in my time Maybe credit to southgate for seeing they didn't have that creativity and done well with what they had from set pieces If you can get just one player with that bit extra that's a very different team" | |||
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