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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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There’s a book by David Graeber that says bullshit jobs make no economic sense And according to him their function must be political. A population kept busy by make- work is less likely to revolt. So are you in one of these ultimately pointless jobs, basically if you didn’t turn up it wouldn’t matter, things like, box tickers, taskmasters, flunkies etc ?! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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There are loads of pointless sounding Uni/College courses too. Always makes me wonder what pointless job they would lead too. Cant think of any of the top of my head but I know they're out there  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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No is the answer to your question.
But crack keeps the peasants away from revolting equally as much as work does, as long as somebody keeps them in crack.
I wonder who does that then? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I have a job that I find immensely stressful and immensely rewarding. Ultimately though, I’d rather there was no need for my job. I am married to my work, and could talk about it for hours. I won’t though, so don’t worry. |
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I had a job once in a very large office and my role was mainly to collect data and statistics and produce graphs etc on the organisation itself. Not customers or sales or anything external but employees and work progress, speed, quantity, quality etc. Towards the end of my tenure, instead of spending hours collecting Data etc, I simply invented them based on an average of 6 months back and no one said anything and nothing changed. I don’t even think any of my information was ever used. I was never questioned on it or asked to do any presentation or anything. It was quite bizarre towards the end. |
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"There’s a book by David Graeber that says bullshit jobs make no economic sense And according to him their function must be political. A population kept busy by make- work is less likely to revolt. So are you in one of these ultimately pointless jobs, basically if you didn’t turn up it wouldn’t matter, things like, box tickers, taskmasters, flunkies etc ?!"
I would say that you could sack 15% of virtually any FTSE 100 company and there would be zero drop in output. The only challenge would be identifying the right 15%.
I do meet a lot of people that are simply delusional about their market value. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Just had a career change was in security n door work it was ok but wasn't the best. You spend all your life working stupid hours I've just gone into truck driving better hours no weekend work and without trucks who would deliver food water and other supplies.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Just had a career change was in security n door work it was ok but wasn't the best. You spend all your life working stupid hours I've just gone into truck driving better hours no weekend work and without trucks who would deliver food water and other supplies. "
Vans, cars, trains. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There’s a book by David Graeber that says bullshit jobs make no economic sense And according to him their function must be political. A population kept busy by make- work is less likely to revolt. So are you in one of these ultimately pointless jobs, basically if you didn’t turn up it wouldn’t matter, things like, box tickers, taskmasters, flunkies etc ?!
I would say that you could sack 15% of virtually any FTSE 100 company and there would be zero drop in output. The only challenge would be identifying the right 15%.
I do meet a lot of people that are simply delusional about their market value. "
How much are *you* worth?  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I had a job once in a very large office and my role was mainly to collect data and statistics and produce graphs etc on the organisation itself. Not customers or sales or anything external but employees and work progress, speed, quantity, quality etc. Towards the end of my tenure, instead of spending hours collecting Data etc, I simply invented them based on an average of 6 months back and no one said anything and nothing changed. I don’t even think any of my information was ever used. I was never questioned on it or asked to do any presentation or anything. It was quite bizarre towards the end. "
So basically this job had no legitimate purpose then? |
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Basically OP, to paraphrase one of the greatest management thinkers of all time: 'there are people that make things, people that sell things and everyone else is an overhead'. If you want the stone cold truth, the world would be a better place with about 66% less lawyers, accountants and the damn regulations that keep them in a job. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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My job is important because I get money from wealthy company owners, and then spend it on consumer items to feather the nest of wealthy company owners. We are the currency of the rich. Who could be more important than that to the economy?
See how important we are. Goes for a lie down after having thought too hard.
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"There’s a book by David Graeber that says bullshit jobs make no economic sense And according to him their function must be political. A population kept busy by make- work is less likely to revolt. So are you in one of these ultimately pointless jobs, basically if you didn’t turn up it wouldn’t matter, things like, box tickers, taskmasters, flunkies etc ?!
I would say that you could sack 15% of virtually any FTSE 100 company and there would be zero drop in output. The only challenge would be identifying the right 15%.
I do meet a lot of people that are simply delusional about their market value.
How much are *you* worth? "
I'll PM you but I'll just get haters saying I'm lying or showboating if i put the real figure here. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Just had a career change was in security n door work it was ok but wasn't the best. You spend all your life working stupid hours I've just gone into truck driving better hours no weekend work and without trucks who would deliver food water and other supplies.
Vans, cars, trains. "
shit should of thought of that before haha well that just stumped me like a good un  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There’s a book by David Graeber that says bullshit jobs make no economic sense And according to him their function must be political. A population kept busy by make- work is less likely to revolt. So are you in one of these ultimately pointless jobs, basically if you didn’t turn up it wouldn’t matter, things like, box tickers, taskmasters, flunkies etc ?!
I would say that you could sack 15% of virtually any FTSE 100 company and there would be zero drop in output. The only challenge would be identifying the right 15%.
I do meet a lot of people that are simply delusional about their market value.
How much are *you* worth?
I'll PM you but I'll just get haters saying I'm lying or showboating if i put the real figure here. "
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My job itself is not a necessary one, as most of you know I work in the food industry. People would simply eat elsewhere, however.... I do, on a personal level make a difference to people's days, so for that reason alone, I'll say the world is a better place with me doing what I do. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Basically OP, to paraphrase one of the greatest management thinkers of all time: 'there are people that make things, people that sell things and everyone else is an overhead'. If you want the stone cold truth, the world would be a better place with about 66% less lawyers, accountants and the damn regulations that keep them in a job. "
It’s jobs for the boys. |
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"I had a job once in a very large office and my role was mainly to collect data and statistics and produce graphs etc on the organisation itself. Not customers or sales or anything external but employees and work progress, speed, quantity, quality etc. Towards the end of my tenure, instead of spending hours collecting Data etc, I simply invented them based on an average of 6 months back and no one said anything and nothing changed. I don’t even think any of my information was ever used. I was never questioned on it or asked to do any presentation or anything. It was quite bizarre towards the end.
So basically this job had no legitimate purpose then? "
No, as far as I could ever work out, it was pointless. I produced nothing valuable and in fact, used resources to produce useless things.
It all reminds me of the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy when all the useless people are sent away from Earth. |
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"If my job didn’t exist then the world would struggle to do anything
Do you warm up the fries too?
Indirectly, yes. "
Are you in charge of the sun?!? Presumably you have the nights off? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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Whatever job I did, it would have involve making something, I need to see something that wasn’t there before, need that sense of purpose and job satisfaction. |
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"If my job didn’t exist then the world would struggle to do anything
Do you warm up the fries too?
Indirectly, yes.
Are you in charge of the sun?!? Presumably you have the nights off? "
Not in charge of it , no. |
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"Basically OP, to paraphrase one of the greatest management thinkers of all time: 'there are people that make things, people that sell things and everyone else is an overhead'. If you want the stone cold truth, the world would be a better place with about 66% less lawyers, accountants and the damn regulations that keep them in a job.
It’s jobs for the boys. "
There's a great book by thomas piketty called "Capital in the Twenty-First Century" that describes what happens when too much of a countries resources are dedicated to non-productive use. It'll scare the shit out of you if you have a pension. |
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I don't work now due to arthritis, but have had a couple of jobs that match that description OP. Back in the 80's I had a spell as a door to door life insurance salesman, I made a fair amount of money from it, but even though it's outlawed now, I doubt anyone would have missed us if they hadn't opened the door to us  |
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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago
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I enjoy my job especially considering that in similar roles elsewhere in the UK & for major Hotel Groups, I was worked into the ground and my work / life balance would be abysmal.
My current job which I started almost a year ago will never overtax my brain nor physically drain me plus I have a great female boss who values my expertise and knowledge.
I work a fixed rota, with excellent working T&C's and the best salary ever!
My peers in the Industry are envious!
I'm 63 but whilst not afraid of hard work, at my age I want to slow down a bit; this job allows me to do just that! I'm happy!
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"If virtually any of us dropped dead tomorrow, the world would go on without us with scarcely any difference.
So much for "look at me and my enormous market value" "
Of course that is true, but since when did the truth count? (said ironically, of course) |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"If virtually any of us dropped dead tomorrow, the world would go on without us with scarcely any difference.
So much for "look at me and my enormous market value" "
Yeah, no one is indespensable, but this is about whether if no one did your job would it matter. |
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I don’t get paid massively well, but better than others. Nobody would die if I wasn’t doing my job, but their quality of life would likely be considerably less. I find the fact that I can help make something positive out of something hugely catastrophic, immensely rewarding |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"If I didn’t have my job then I wouldn’t be off to San Francisco tomorrow for 2 nights. I love it. "
Havana, San Francisco, Plymouth you’ve been to some cool places the last few weeks! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If I didn’t have my job then I wouldn’t be off to San Francisco tomorrow for 2 nights. I love it.
I'm genuinely pleased to hear this.
Pick me up some funky bandanas whilst you're there please "
I will be on the look out for you lovely. Peace and love. xx |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If I didn’t have my job then I wouldn’t be off to San Francisco tomorrow for 2 nights. I love it.
Havana, San Francisco, Plymouth you’ve been to some cool places the last few weeks! "
I went to West Malling Tuesday for a 2 day date. Very romantic |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Basically OP, to paraphrase one of the greatest management thinkers of all time: 'there are people that make things, people that sell things and everyone else is an overhead'. If you want the stone cold truth, the world would be a better place with about 66% less lawyers, accountants and the damn regulations that keep them in a job. "
Without cleaners and sewage treatment plant workers we would all be wallowing in our own shit. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If virtually any of us dropped dead tomorrow, the world would go on without us with scarcely any difference.
So much for "look at me and my enormous market value"
Yeah, no one is indespensable, but this is about whether if no one did your job would it matter. "
Someone else would have to do it. |
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The job I'm currently doing has to be done if the current system is to be maintained. A couple of years without it and slowly everything that underpins the way we currently evaluate people would need to change. |
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"Basically OP, to paraphrase one of the greatest management thinkers of all time: 'there are people that make things, people that sell things and everyone else is an overhead'. If you want the stone cold truth, the world would be a better place with about 66% less lawyers, accountants and the damn regulations that keep them in a job.
Without cleaners and sewage treatment plant workers we would all be wallowing in our own shit."
Drucker would count them as 'people who make things'. A service is a thing in that respect. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Basically OP, to paraphrase one of the greatest management thinkers of all time: 'there are people that make things, people that sell things and everyone else is an overhead'. If you want the stone cold truth, the world would be a better place with about 66% less lawyers, accountants and the damn regulations that keep them in a job.
Without cleaners and sewage treatment plant workers we would all be wallowing in our own shit.
Drucker would count them as 'people who make things'. A service is a thing in that respect. "
Ah, ok. They make shit disappear before our very eyes |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Yes, I do. But it pays well and I enjoy it. I'd like to come up with some convoluted way in which it's particularly needed to help society but fuck it. It isn't."
Lap dancer? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Basically OP, to paraphrase one of the greatest management thinkers of all time: 'there are people that make things, people that sell things and everyone else is an overhead'. If you want the stone cold truth, the world would be a better place with about 66% less lawyers, accountants and the damn regulations that keep them in a job. "
So the institutions of schools, hospitals etc are overheads. Ok I'll work for Aldi - more pay less stress |
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"Yes, I do. But it pays well and I enjoy it. I'd like to come up with some convoluted way in which it's particularly needed to help society but fuck it. It isn't.
Lap dancer?
Lobbyist? "
Sushi chef? |
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"Basically OP, to paraphrase one of the greatest management thinkers of all time: 'there are people that make things, people that sell things and everyone else is an overhead'. If you want the stone cold truth, the world would be a better place with about 66% less lawyers, accountants and the damn regulations that keep them in a job.
So the institutions of schools, hospitals etc are overheads. Ok I'll work for Aldi - more pay less stress "
Again, services are things. A doctor who performs a heart surgery is making something of value to the economy. Institutions are irrelevant, it's the jobs that matter. He didn't say that you don't need any overheads, just that they need to be minimised and treated as means to an end.
Just honestly, do you really think one of the top 3 management writers of all time didn't consider that angle? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There’s a book by David Graeber that says bullshit jobs make no economic sense And according to him their function must be political. A population kept busy by make- work is less likely to revolt. So are you in one of these ultimately pointless jobs, basically if you didn’t turn up it wouldn’t matter, things like, box tickers, taskmasters, flunkies etc ?!
I would say that you could sack 15% of virtually any FTSE 100 company and there would be zero drop in output. The only challenge would be identifying the right 15%.
I do meet a lot of people that are simply delusional about their market value.
How much are *you* worth?
I'll PM you but I'll just get haters saying I'm lying or showboating if i put the real figure here. "
Good to see a ‘management consultant’ up and about... good expensive talk ... but fuck all good doing the real work  |
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"Basically OP, to paraphrase one of the greatest management thinkers of all time: 'there are people that make things, people that sell things and everyone else is an overhead'. If you want the stone cold truth, the world would be a better place with about 66% less lawyers, accountants and the damn regulations that keep them in a job.
So the institutions of schools, hospitals etc are overheads. Ok I'll work for Aldi - more pay less stress
Again, services are things. A doctor who performs a heart surgery is making something of value to the economy. Institutions are irrelevant, it's the jobs that matter. He didn't say that you don't need any overheads, just that they need to be minimised and treated as means to an end.
Just honestly, do you really think one of the top 3 management writers of all time didn't consider that angle? "
Not an author I've heard of  |
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"There’s a book by David Graeber that says bullshit jobs make no economic sense And according to him their function must be political. A population kept busy by make- work is less likely to revolt. So are you in one of these ultimately pointless jobs, basically if you didn’t turn up it wouldn’t matter, things like, box tickers, taskmasters, flunkies etc ?!
I would say that you could sack 15% of virtually any FTSE 100 company and there would be zero drop in output. The only challenge would be identifying the right 15%.
I do meet a lot of people that are simply delusional about their market value.
How much are *you* worth?
I'll PM you but I'll just get haters saying I'm lying or showboating if i put the real figure here.
Good to see a ‘management consultant’ up and about... good expensive talk ... but fuck all good doing the real work "
Management consultants are definately overheads  |
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"It isn't.
Lap dancer?
Lobbyist?
Sushi chef?
Oh, you're still going with the guess my not useful job...
I'm oddly touched you threw lap dancer in there. That's a compliment, I know it."
Did you sleep with Donald Trump and get paid not to talk about it to the media? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It isn't.
Lap dancer?
Lobbyist?
Sushi chef?
Oh, you're still going with the guess my not useful job...
I'm oddly touched you threw lap dancer in there. That's a compliment, I know it."
A job I couldn't do. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It isn't.
Lap dancer?
Lobbyist?
Sushi chef?
Oh, you're still going with the guess my not useful job...
I'm oddly touched you threw lap dancer in there. That's a compliment, I know it."
Guess Finance...
Maybe Accountant? |
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"I don't know about my job being a bullshit job but I'm damn sure 99% of 99% of the meetings I attend are bullshit.
All meetings should be done standing up"
How can people sleep if they are standing up? |
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"I don't know about my job being a bullshit job but I'm damn sure 99% of 99% of the meetings I attend are bullshit.
All meetings should be done standing up"
Barefoot on drawing pins. They'd get to the ruddy point then. |
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"I don't know about my job being a bullshit job but I'm damn sure 99% of 99% of the meetings I attend are bullshit.
All meetings should be done standing up
How can people sleep if they are standing up?"
Seeing people sleeping in meetings always gives me the giggles |
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"I don't know about my job being a bullshit job but I'm damn sure 99% of 99% of the meetings I attend are bullshit.
All meetings should be done standing up
How can people sleep if they are standing up?"
Some of my finest doodles have been created in meetings. I have long hours of practice at flowers in a vase and washing lines with a variety of washing blowing in the imaginary wind while some blowhard holds forth |
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"I don't know about my job being a bullshit job but I'm damn sure 99% of 99% of the meetings I attend are bullshit.
All meetings should be done standing up
How can people sleep if they are standing up?
Seeing people sleeping in meetings always gives me the giggles"
We had whole staff meetings 4 times a year and the same two people always fell asleep. |
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"I don't know about my job being a bullshit job but I'm damn sure 99% of 99% of the meetings I attend are bullshit.
All meetings should be done standing up
How can people sleep if they are standing up?
Some of my finest doodles have been created in meetings. I have long hours of practice at flowers in a vase and washing lines with a variety of washing blowing in the imaginary wind while some blowhard holds forth"
I've played hang man in whole school meetings. |
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"I don't know about my job being a bullshit job but I'm damn sure 99% of 99% of the meetings I attend are bullshit.
All meetings should be done standing up
How can people sleep if they are standing up?
Some of my finest doodles have been created in meetings. I have long hours of practice at flowers in a vase and washing lines with a variety of washing blowing in the imaginary wind while some blowhard holds forth
I've played hang man in whole school meetings. "
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The worst meetings are the ones they ask you to take the minutes of. You have to bloomin pay attention then. |
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"I don't know about my job being a bullshit job but I'm damn sure 99% of 99% of the meetings I attend are bullshit.
All meetings should be done standing up
How can people sleep if they are standing up?
Some of my finest doodles have been created in meetings. I have long hours of practice at flowers in a vase and washing lines with a variety of washing blowing in the imaginary wind while some blowhard holds forth
I've played hang man in whole school meetings.
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The worst meetings are the ones they ask you to take the minutes of. You have to bloomin pay attention then. "
I've honestly never understood the point of minutes unless it's some sort of government policy discussion. |
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"I don't know about my job being a bullshit job but I'm damn sure 99% of 99% of the meetings I attend are bullshit.
All meetings should be done standing up
How can people sleep if they are standing up?
Some of my finest doodles have been created in meetings. I have long hours of practice at flowers in a vase and washing lines with a variety of washing blowing in the imaginary wind while some blowhard holds forth
I've played hang man in whole school meetings.
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The worst meetings are the ones they ask you to take the minutes of. You have to bloomin pay attention then.
I've honestly never understood the point of minutes unless it's some sort of government policy discussion."
So they can be printed out and sent to everyone who attended the meeting, in case they were asleep. |
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"I don't know about my job being a bullshit job but I'm damn sure 99% of 99% of the meetings I attend are bullshit.
All meetings should be done standing up
How can people sleep if they are standing up?
Some of my finest doodles have been created in meetings. I have long hours of practice at flowers in a vase and washing lines with a variety of washing blowing in the imaginary wind while some blowhard holds forth
I've played hang man in whole school meetings.
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The worst meetings are the ones they ask you to take the minutes of. You have to bloomin pay attention then.
I've honestly never understood the point of minutes unless it's some sort of government policy discussion."
Nobody understands the point of my minutes.
Essentially they are used to prove that the worthy folk who attended were there, then hauled out to bash them about the head when they don't comply with point 4.2 of the minutes of a lengthy meeting at hometime on a Friday. |
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"I don't know about my job being a bullshit job but I'm damn sure 99% of 99% of the meetings I attend are bullshit.
All meetings should be done standing up
How can people sleep if they are standing up?
Some of my finest doodles have been created in meetings. I have long hours of practice at flowers in a vase and washing lines with a variety of washing blowing in the imaginary wind while some blowhard holds forth
I've played hang man in whole school meetings.
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The worst meetings are the ones they ask you to take the minutes of. You have to bloomin pay attention then.
I've honestly never understood the point of minutes unless it's some sort of government policy discussion.
So they can be printed out and sent to everyone who attended the meeting, in case they were asleep."
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I used to work for someone who would ask for a draft of the minutes then alter them  |
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"I don't know about my job being a bullshit job but I'm damn sure 99% of 99% of the meetings I attend are bullshit.
All meetings should be done standing up
How can people sleep if they are standing up?
Some of my finest doodles have been created in meetings. I have long hours of practice at flowers in a vase and washing lines with a variety of washing blowing in the imaginary wind while some blowhard holds forth
I've played hang man in whole school meetings.
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The worst meetings are the ones they ask you to take the minutes of. You have to bloomin pay attention then.
I've honestly never understood the point of minutes unless it's some sort of government policy discussion."
I love doing the minutes. It allows me to ensure my opinion is spun into the entire fabric of every decision and allows me to continue controlfreaking everything. |
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"I don't know about my job being a bullshit job but I'm damn sure 99% of 99% of the meetings I attend are bullshit.
All meetings should be done standing up
How can people sleep if they are standing up?
Some of my finest doodles have been created in meetings. I have long hours of practice at flowers in a vase and washing lines with a variety of washing blowing in the imaginary wind while some blowhard holds forth
I've played hang man in whole school meetings.
.
The worst meetings are the ones they ask you to take the minutes of. You have to bloomin pay attention then.
I've honestly never understood the point of minutes unless it's some sort of government policy discussion.
So they can be printed out and sent to everyone who attended the meeting, in case they were asleep.
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I used to work for someone who would ask for a draft of the minutes then alter them "
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"I don't know about my job being a bullshit job but I'm damn sure 99% of 99% of the meetings I attend are bullshit.
All meetings should be done standing up
How can people sleep if they are standing up?
Some of my finest doodles have been created in meetings. I have long hours of practice at flowers in a vase and washing lines with a variety of washing blowing in the imaginary wind while some blowhard holds forth
I've played hang man in whole school meetings.
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The worst meetings are the ones they ask you to take the minutes of. You have to bloomin pay attention then.
I've honestly never understood the point of minutes unless it's some sort of government policy discussion.
I love doing the minutes. It allows me to ensure my opinion is spun into the entire fabric of every decision and allows me to continue controlfreaking everything. "
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"I don't know about my job being a bullshit job but I'm damn sure 99% of 99% of the meetings I attend are bullshit.
All meetings should be done standing up
How can people sleep if they are standing up?
Some of my finest doodles have been created in meetings. I have long hours of practice at flowers in a vase and washing lines with a variety of washing blowing in the imaginary wind while some blowhard holds forth
I've played hang man in whole school meetings.
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The worst meetings are the ones they ask you to take the minutes of. You have to bloomin pay attention then.
I've honestly never understood the point of minutes unless it's some sort of government policy discussion.
I love doing the minutes. It allows me to ensure my opinion is spun into the entire fabric of every decision and allows me to continue controlfreaking everything.
Which would work if they were ever read by anyone "
I staple them to my minions’ foreheads. And get them to learn them by rote. |
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"I don't know about my job being a bullshit job but I'm damn sure 99% of 99% of the meetings I attend are bullshit.
All meetings should be done standing up
How can people sleep if they are standing up?
Some of my finest doodles have been created in meetings. I have long hours of practice at flowers in a vase and washing lines with a variety of washing blowing in the imaginary wind while some blowhard holds forth
I've played hang man in whole school meetings.
.
The worst meetings are the ones they ask you to take the minutes of. You have to bloomin pay attention then.
I've honestly never understood the point of minutes unless it's some sort of government policy discussion.
So they can be printed out and sent to everyone who attended the meeting, in case they were asleep.
.
I used to work for someone who would ask for a draft of the minutes then alter them
I do that. "
I just used to distribute my original version. We powerless people have to do what we can |
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"I don't know about my job being a bullshit job but I'm damn sure 99% of 99% of the meetings I attend are bullshit.
All meetings should be done standing up
How can people sleep if they are standing up?
Some of my finest doodles have been created in meetings. I have long hours of practice at flowers in a vase and washing lines with a variety of washing blowing in the imaginary wind while some blowhard holds forth
I've played hang man in whole school meetings.
.
The worst meetings are the ones they ask you to take the minutes of. You have to bloomin pay attention then.
I've honestly never understood the point of minutes unless it's some sort of government policy discussion.
I love doing the minutes. It allows me to ensure my opinion is spun into the entire fabric of every decision and allows me to continue controlfreaking everything.
Which would work if they were ever read by anyone
I staple them to my minions’ foreheads. And get them to learn them by rote."
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I work in a shop my job is to serve customer i am also to be blamed for every thing prices stock the cash machine that is out side the shop and the weather and people shit lives so not bull shit. Not sure were in my contract it says all things are my fault and the bus being late hay hoe |
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"I don't know about my job being a bullshit job but I'm damn sure 99% of 99% of the meetings I attend are bullshit.
All meetings should be done standing up
How can people sleep if they are standing up?
Some of my finest doodles have been created in meetings. I have long hours of practice at flowers in a vase and washing lines with a variety of washing blowing in the imaginary wind while some blowhard holds forth
I've played hang man in whole school meetings.
.
The worst meetings are the ones they ask you to take the minutes of. You have to bloomin pay attention then.
I've honestly never understood the point of minutes unless it's some sort of government policy discussion.
So they can be printed out and sent to everyone who attended the meeting, in case they were asleep.
.
I used to work for someone who would ask for a draft of the minutes then alter them "
To add their non-existent contributions? |
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"I don't know about my job being a bullshit job but I'm damn sure 99% of 99% of the meetings I attend are bullshit.
All meetings should be done standing up
How can people sleep if they are standing up?
Some of my finest doodles have been created in meetings. I have long hours of practice at flowers in a vase and washing lines with a variety of washing blowing in the imaginary wind while some blowhard holds forth
I've played hang man in whole school meetings.
.
The worst meetings are the ones they ask you to take the minutes of. You have to bloomin pay attention then.
I've honestly never understood the point of minutes unless it's some sort of government policy discussion.
So they can be printed out and sent to everyone who attended the meeting, in case they were asleep.
.
I used to work for someone who would ask for a draft of the minutes then alter them
To add their non-existent contributions?"
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"There’s a book by David Graeber that says bullshit jobs make no economic sense And according to him their function must be political. A population kept busy by make- work is less likely to revolt. So are you in one of these ultimately pointless jobs, basically if you didn’t turn up it wouldn’t matter, things like, box tickers, taskmasters, flunkies etc ?!"
You mean Marketing....blue sky thinking and all that. |
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Nobody is that important irrespective of their role that if they died it wouldn't make much odds. If a PM leaves office one is appointed in their place, if a CEO leaves again replaced. Some ppl may feel you are invaluable but everyone retires or dies at some point so is anyone more or less valuable than the other? |
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"Nobody is that important irrespective of their role that if they died it wouldn't make much odds. If a PM leaves office one is appointed in their place, if a CEO leaves again replaced. Some ppl may feel you are invaluable but everyone retires or dies at some point so is anyone more or less valuable than the other? "
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"Nobody is that important irrespective of their role that if they died it wouldn't make much odds. If a PM leaves office one is appointed in their place, if a CEO leaves again replaced. Some ppl may feel you are invaluable but everyone retires or dies at some point so is anyone more or less valuable than the other?
This is true! "
Precisely! There is far more to life than work, or there should be. It's simply a means to an end for me. |
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"There’s a book by David Graeber that says bullshit jobs make no economic sense And according to him their function must be political. A population kept busy by make- work is less likely to revolt. So are you in one of these ultimately pointless jobs, basically if you didn’t turn up it wouldn’t matter, things like, box tickers, taskmasters, flunkies etc ?!
You mean Marketing....blue sky thinking and all that."
Basically all the jobs you see in The Guardian. |
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I have a bullshit boss sadly. Treats the apprentices like cheap labour, has decronian views and is generally not a nice person to work for.
Am looking to move to something more challenging and better paid in the near future. |
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"I don't know about my job being a bullshit job but I'm damn sure 99% of 99% of the meetings I attend are bullshit.
All meetings should be done standing up
How can people sleep if they are standing up?
Some of my finest doodles have been created in meetings. I have long hours of practice at flowers in a vase and washing lines with a variety of washing blowing in the imaginary wind while some blowhard holds forth
I've played hang man in whole school meetings.
.
The worst meetings are the ones they ask you to take the minutes of. You have to bloomin pay attention then.
I've honestly never understood the point of minutes unless it's some sort of government policy discussion.
So they can be printed out and sent to everyone who attended the meeting, in case they were asleep.
.
I used to work for someone who would ask for a draft of the minutes then alter them
To add their non-existent contributions?"
To make sure none of our opinions that clearly expressed incredulity and amusement at management suggestions were reflected. She was terrified of appearing to disagree with them. |
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I can work up to 70 hours a week at times and my job is extremely stressful. You could definitely say at times it’s a matter of life and death. It’s not the greatest paid job in the world but definitely one of the most rewarding. |
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"I can work up to 70 hours a week at times and my job is extremely stressful. You could definitely say at times it’s a matter of life and death. It’s not the greatest paid job in the world but definitely one of the most rewarding. "
Do you put the cherry on top of the Bakewell tart sir ? |
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"I can work up to 70 hours a week at times and my job is extremely stressful. You could definitely say at times it’s a matter of life and death. It’s not the greatest paid job in the world but definitely one of the most rewarding.
Do you put the cherry on top of the Bakewell tart sir ?"
You’ve guessed it in one my friend |
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The world would definitely be OK if I stopped working ...
Anyone could do it- I doubt many people would want to though!
It makes a lot of money for my employer and OK money for me - that's it's purpose.
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"There are loads of pointless sounding Uni/College courses too. Always makes me wonder what pointless job they would lead too. Cant think of any of the top of my head but I know they're out there "
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"I don't know about my job being a bullshit job but I'm damn sure 99% of 99% of the meetings I attend are bullshit.
All meetings should be done standing up
How can people sleep if they are standing up?
Some of my finest doodles have been created in meetings. I have long hours of practice at flowers in a vase and washing lines with a variety of washing blowing in the imaginary wind while some blowhard holds forth
I've played hang man in whole school meetings.
.
The worst meetings are the ones they ask you to take the minutes of. You have to bloomin pay attention then.
I've honestly never understood the point of minutes unless it's some sort of government policy discussion."
To make sure people can't change their mind without warning or deny they said something. It happens and minutes are a way to say "Hang on, you told us in the meeting you want ONE cherry on top, and now you claim you always wanted two." |
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"There are loads of pointless sounding Uni/College courses too. Always makes me wonder what pointless job they would lead too. Cant think of any of the top of my head but I know they're out there
You completely miss the point of university degrees. I assume you don't have one."
Did she mention degrees, no. No need to get sniffy?! |
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"There are loads of pointless sounding Uni/College courses too. Always makes me wonder what pointless job they would lead too. Cant think of any of the top of my head but I know they're out there
You completely miss the point of university degrees. I assume you don't have one."
Keeping employment figures high by keeping young people out the workplace for 3 more years? |
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"I don't know about my job being a bullshit job but I'm damn sure 99% of 99% of the meetings I attend are bullshit.
All meetings should be done standing up
How can people sleep if they are standing up?
Some of my finest doodles have been created in meetings. I have long hours of practice at flowers in a vase and washing lines with a variety of washing blowing in the imaginary wind while some blowhard holds forth
I've played hang man in whole school meetings.
.
The worst meetings are the ones they ask you to take the minutes of. You have to bloomin pay attention then.
I've honestly never understood the point of minutes unless it's some sort of government policy discussion.
To make sure people can't change their mind without warning or deny they said something. It happens and minutes are a way to say "Hang on, you told us in the meeting you want ONE cherry on top, and now you claim you always wanted two.""
Yeah but there were plenty of witnesses in the meeting to what was said and agreed. Normally you'd send out actions in an email after too, which achieves the same thing. In the corporate world, people who lie get found out quickly and everyone avoids them. |
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"I don't know about my job being a bullshit job but I'm damn sure 99% of 99% of the meetings I attend are bullshit.
All meetings should be done standing up
How can people sleep if they are standing up?
Some of my finest doodles have been created in meetings. I have long hours of practice at flowers in a vase and washing lines with a variety of washing blowing in the imaginary wind while some blowhard holds forth
I've played hang man in whole school meetings.
.
The worst meetings are the ones they ask you to take the minutes of. You have to bloomin pay attention then.
I've honestly never understood the point of minutes unless it's some sort of government policy discussion.
To make sure people can't change their mind without warning or deny they said something. It happens and minutes are a way to say "Hang on, you told us in the meeting you want ONE cherry on top, and now you claim you always wanted two."
Yeah but there were plenty of witnesses in the meeting to what was said and agreed. Normally you'd send out actions in an email after too, which achieves the same thing. In the corporate world, people who lie get found out quickly and everyone avoids them. "
If you don't have a written record of what has been decided it just creates work for us lawyers as people genuinely think different things were decided and act accordingly.
So down with minutes I say, |
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Examples of bullshit jobs ;
PR consultants
Telemarketers
Brand managers
Countless administrative specialists
Middle management
No offence, if you’ve got one of these jobs. |
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"I don't know about my job being a bullshit job but I'm damn sure 99% of 99% of the meetings I attend are bullshit.
All meetings should be done standing up
How can people sleep if they are standing up?
Some of my finest doodles have been created in meetings. I have long hours of practice at flowers in a vase and washing lines with a variety of washing blowing in the imaginary wind while some blowhard holds forth
I've played hang man in whole school meetings.
.
The worst meetings are the ones they ask you to take the minutes of. You have to bloomin pay attention then.
I've honestly never understood the point of minutes unless it's some sort of government policy discussion.
To make sure people can't change their mind without warning or deny they said something. It happens and minutes are a way to say "Hang on, you told us in the meeting you want ONE cherry on top, and now you claim you always wanted two."
Yeah but there were plenty of witnesses in the meeting to what was said and agreed. Normally you'd send out actions in an email after too, which achieves the same thing. In the corporate world, people who lie get found out quickly and everyone avoids them.
If you don't have a written record of what has been decided it just creates work for us lawyers as people genuinely think different things were decided and act accordingly.
So down with minutes I say, "
We all have different experiences of the corporate world. I'd say i mainly work in project-based elite teams where peoples involvement is largely based on reputation (I.e. by invitation). People with slopey shoulders and fragile memories, don't get invited back. I realise that there is such thing as 'false memory syndrome' but it's really irrelevant to me whether people do it on purpose or not. As the Rock once said "know your role". |
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"Examples of bullshit jobs ;
PR consultants
Telemarketers
Brand managers
Countless administrative specialists
Middle management
No offence, if you’ve got one of these jobs. "
Mortgage advisor and pretty much anyone you speak to about financing anything is doing a job that a computer should be doing. |
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"I don't know about my job being a bullshit job but I'm damn sure 99% of 99% of the meetings I attend are bullshit.
All meetings should be done standing up
How can people sleep if they are standing up?
Some of my finest doodles have been created in meetings. I have long hours of practice at flowers in a vase and washing lines with a variety of washing blowing in the imaginary wind while some blowhard holds forth
I've played hang man in whole school meetings.
.
The worst meetings are the ones they ask you to take the minutes of. You have to bloomin pay attention then.
I've honestly never understood the point of minutes unless it's some sort of government policy discussion.
To make sure people can't change their mind without warning or deny they said something. It happens and minutes are a way to say "Hang on, you told us in the meeting you want ONE cherry on top, and now you claim you always wanted two."
Yeah but there were plenty of witnesses in the meeting to what was said and agreed. Normally you'd send out actions in an email after too, which achieves the same thing. In the corporate world, people who lie get found out quickly and everyone avoids them.
If you don't have a written record of what has been decided it just creates work for us lawyers as people genuinely think different things were decided and act accordingly.
So down with minutes I say,
We all have different experiences of the corporate world. I'd say i mainly work in project-based elite teams where peoples involvement is largely based on reputation (I.e. by invitation). People with slopey shoulders and fragile memories, don't get invited back. I realise that there is such thing as 'false memory syndrome' but it's really irrelevant to me whether people do it on purpose or not. As the Rock once said "know your role". "
You'd be surprised at how many misunderstandings there arise involving very intelligent and very wealthy people. Its what keeps the very wealthy corporate lawyers in work.
To be frank if a decision is important it should be in writing and anyone who thinks otherwise shouldn't be in charge of the proverbial whelk stall. |
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"Most people see my job as a box ticket, accept the people who need us to stop then losing money.
That should be box ticker, dam autocorrect.
Damn even "
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