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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Should we relax health and safety laws and allow natural selection to take a bigger part in cleansing our gene pool?
For example, get rid of the "danger of falling" signs next to cliff edges. People should know how gravity works. By all means, put a fence around it for the children, but apart from that, just let nature take its course |
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Unfortuently in this day of blame culture there's literally not enough that can be done to prevent stupidity and the resultant "well you should have warned me" nonsense |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Unfortuently in this day of blame culture there's literally not enough that can be done to prevent stupidity and the resultant "well you should have warned me" nonsense "
"Hot contents" warning on coffee cups come to mind. |
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"Unfortuently in this day of blame culture there's literally not enough that can be done to prevent stupidity and the resultant "well you should have warned me" nonsense
"Hot contents" warning on coffee cups come to mind. "
And the "may contain nuts" warning on a packet of peanuts....
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Unfortuently in this day of blame culture there's literally not enough that can be done to prevent stupidity and the resultant "well you should have warned me" nonsense
"Hot contents" warning on coffee cups come to mind.
And the "may contain nuts" warning on a packet of peanuts....
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Fish - 'may contain bones'
Cigarettes - 'these are bad for your health'
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Unfortuently in this day of blame culture there's literally not enough that can be done to prevent stupidity and the resultant "well you should have warned me" nonsense
"Hot contents" warning on coffee cups come to mind.
And the "may contain nuts" warning on a packet of peanuts....
Fish - 'may contain bones'
Cigarettes - 'these are bad for your health'
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And yet people previously didn’t know about the health dangers of smoking, and the plain advertising with gory pics is working |
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"Should we relax health and safety laws and allow natural selection to take a bigger part in cleansing our gene pool?
For example, get rid of the "danger of falling" signs next to cliff edges. People should know how gravity works. By all means, put a fence around it for the children, but apart from that, just let nature take its course "
No.
Everybody seems to think that health and safety has “gone mad” until it’s them or someone they care about who’s been hurt or worse. |
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The irony regarding many health and safety warning signs is that anyone vapid enough to engage in the prohibited activity indicated by said signs, is probably unable to read them in the first place  |
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"Couldn't agree more there are far too many stupid people.
Coffee cups that state the contents are hot "
That's after someone scalded themselves with a spillage, then put a claim in against the company.
I was told health & safety is big at the moment due to the amount of no win no fee claims going in, insurances premiums go up and up. So in the end the company turns to health & safety rules and regulations.
My annoyance is when it is used for the wrong reasons, the health & safety myths is funny reading. |
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"I agree I’m having to put signs up to warn people of my electric fence in my field where the public have no right or way or any access!
Where’s the fun in that.  "
Set a camera up for when someone pisses on it instead lol |
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"Our water boiler stopped working at work
So we asked if we could use a kettle 
Our request was denied as no one in the factory had been trained in the use of a kettle "
Then your health and safety department is a joke |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Health and Safety has gone mad these days, and has ruined so many things for so many people, hell kids aren't even allowed to play conkers anymore. It's all because unfortunately nothing is ever just an accident these days. Someone has to always be to blame. It's all very sad. |
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I was talking to a H&S assessor at a wedding once. He said often places use health and safety as an excuse not to do/cancel things. He said H&S are not there to stop activities just to make sure the activity is done as safely as reasonably possible. He said it's often organisations own internal h&s policing who go OTO without checking what is actually reasonable.
It's a matter of ballence of which I think we sometimes get wrong in both directions. |
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"Health and Safety has gone mad these days, and has ruined so many things for so many people, hell kids aren't even allowed to play conkers anymore. It's all because unfortunately nothing is ever just an accident these days. Someone has to always be to blame. It's all very sad."
That's not health and safety that's fear of litigation. There is a massive difference. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Should we relax health and safety laws and allow natural selection to take a bigger part in cleansing our gene pool?
For example, get rid of the "danger of falling" signs next to cliff edges. People should know how gravity works. By all means, put a fence around it for the children, but apart from that, just let nature take its course "
Unfortunately this action would assume people have common sense! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Health and Safety has gone mad these days, and has ruined so many things for so many people, hell kids aren't even allowed to play conkers anymore. It's all because unfortunately nothing is ever just an accident these days. Someone has to always be to blame. It's all very sad.
That's not health and safety that's fear of litigation. There is a massive difference. "
Yes, but H & S have signs up saying you can't do this and can't do that, and that's because if something happened then someone would be getting held liable.
Like conkers being banned in school. They say it's a H & S issue, it isn't, but the school would be worried parents would sue if a child was hurt. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I went for breakfast in Asda once
"Sorry there are no fried eggs"
"Oh why not"
"We only have one person trained to fry them and she is off sick""
Seriously??! See...the world has gone mad |
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"Health and Safety has gone mad these days, and has ruined so many things for so many people, hell kids aren't even allowed to play conkers anymore. It's all because unfortunately nothing is ever just an accident these days. Someone has to always be to blame. It's all very sad.
That's not health and safety that's fear of litigation. There is a massive difference.
Yes, but H & S have signs up saying you can't do this and can't do that, and that's because if something happened then someone would be getting held liable.
Like conkers being banned in school. They say it's a H & S issue, it isn't, but the school would be worried parents would sue if a child was hurt."
Health and safety isn't there to stop people doing things, it's there to make it safe to do them. People's interpretation of health and safety legislation is wildly inaccurate and leads people to think that they can't do anything fun!
The litigation culture has caused people to be overly cautious and treat people like idiots when SOME of them aren't |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Health and Safety has gone mad these days, and has ruined so many things for so many people, hell kids aren't even allowed to play conkers anymore. It's all because unfortunately nothing is ever just an accident these days. Someone has to always be to blame. It's all very sad.
That's not health and safety that's fear of litigation. There is a massive difference.
Yes, but H & S have signs up saying you can't do this and can't do that, and that's because if something happened then someone would be getting held liable.
Like conkers being banned in school. They say it's a H & S issue, it isn't, but the school would be worried parents would sue if a child was hurt.
Health and safety isn't there to stop people doing things, it's there to make it safe to do them. People's interpretation of health and safety legislation is wildly inaccurate and leads people to think that they can't do anything fun!
The litigation culture has caused people to be overly cautious and treat people like idiots when SOME of them aren't "
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By (user no longer on site)
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Of course we could get rid of all H+S legislation altogether. E.G. get rid of signs saying 'Danger of Death' and replace them with signs saying 'Go on,what's the worst that could happen?'.
I'm sure this would result in some hilarious anecdotes about people climbing into electrical substations,smoking at gas stations or walking on railways.
Probably not very hilarious for those who have to clean up the mess,though.
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"Health and Safety has gone mad these days, and has ruined so many things for so many people, hell kids aren't even allowed to play conkers anymore. It's all because unfortunately nothing is ever just an accident these days. Someone has to always be to blame. It's all very sad.
That's not health and safety that's fear of litigation. There is a massive difference.
Yes, but H & S have signs up saying you can't do this and can't do that, and that's because if something happened then someone would be getting held liable.
Like conkers being banned in school. They say it's a H & S issue, it isn't, but the school would be worried parents would sue if a child was hurt.
Health and safety isn't there to stop people doing things, it's there to make it safe to do them. People's interpretation of health and safety legislation is wildly inaccurate and leads people to think that they can't do anything fun!
The litigation culture has caused people to be overly cautious and treat people like idiots when SOME of them aren't "
It's also the reason there are so many companies, are going to H&S consultants for advice. |
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As a health and safety officer, I genuinely believe we should to be forced to take more responsibility for our own safety.
I (Dave) May not be a typical h&s professional - after all, for fun I compete in full contact sword tournaments, where I often get injured, so my opinion probably counts for nothing, but there it is anyway. |
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"As a health and safety officer, I genuinely believe we should to be forced to take more responsibility for our own safety.
I (Dave) May not be a typical h&s professional - after all, for fun I compete in full contact sword tournaments, where I often get injured, so my opinion probably counts for nothing, but there it is anyway."
But your RA will tell you not to use sharpened swords and to wear appropriate PPE. The SSOW will tell you how you are supposed to hit a person (no head shots, not the googlies etc). Like I said H&S is not there to prevent fun, just minimise the risk of injury to a tolerable level and make it as safe as is reasonably practicable.
That's the reason why the conkers nonsense annoys me. The HSE has a good mythbuster section on their website. |
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"As a health and safety officer, I genuinely believe we should to be forced to take more responsibility for our own safety.
I (Dave) May not be a typical h&s professional - after all, for fun I compete in full contact sword tournaments, where I often get injured, so my opinion probably counts for nothing, but there it is anyway.
But your RA will tell you not to use sharpened swords and to wear appropriate PPE. The SSOW will tell you how you are supposed to hit a person (no head shots, not the googlies etc). Like I said H&S is not there to prevent fun, just minimise the risk of injury to a tolerable level and make it as safe as is reasonably practicable.
That's the reason why the conkers nonsense annoys me. The HSE has a good mythbuster section on their website. "
It is actually quite funny some of the things they have on there. |
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This subject makes me laugh, as I used to work at an airport.
Very few people wore hearing protection when working with the aircraft, but they gave sympathy to the guys who had worked at the same place for 15 years without wearing hearing protection and were now deaf. They couldn't see that they could end up like them eventually, they ignored constant reminders as well. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"This subject makes me laugh, as I used to work at an airport.
Very few people wore hearing protection when working with the aircraft, but they gave sympathy to the guys who had worked at the same place for 15 years without wearing hearing protection and were now deaf. They couldn't see that they could end up like them eventually, they ignored constant reminders as well."
Beg your pardon? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Of course we could get rid of all H+S legislation altogether. E.G. get rid of signs saying 'Danger of Death' and replace them with signs saying 'Go on,what's the worst that could happen?'.
I'm sure this would result in some hilarious anecdotes about people climbing into electrical substations,smoking at gas stations or walking on railways.
Probably not very hilarious for those who have to clean up the mess,though.
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I remember short safety films back when I was young. Kids being electrocuted with kites on pylons, crushed under tractors or screaming in agony after drinking bleach. Don't know if it made any difference. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Of course we could get rid of all H+S legislation altogether. E.G. get rid of signs saying 'Danger of Death' and replace them with signs saying 'Go on,what's the worst that could happen?'.
I'm sure this would result in some hilarious anecdotes about people climbing into electrical substations,smoking at gas stations or walking on railways.
Probably not very hilarious for those who have to clean up the mess,though.
I remember short safety films back when I was young. Kids being electrocuted with kites on pylons, crushed under tractors or screaming in agony after drinking bleach. Don't know if it made any difference. "
I know children who drank diluted disinfectant from a Pepsi bottle. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Should we relax health and safety laws and allow natural selection to take a bigger part in cleansing our gene pool?
For example, get rid of the "danger of falling" signs next to cliff edges. People should know how gravity works. By all means, put a fence around it for the children, but apart from that, just let nature take its course "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Of course we could get rid of all H+S legislation altogether. E.G. get rid of signs saying 'Danger of Death' and replace them with signs saying 'Go on,what's the worst that could happen?'.
I'm sure this would result in some hilarious anecdotes about people climbing into electrical substations,smoking at gas stations or walking on railways.
Probably not very hilarious for those who have to clean up the mess,though.
I remember short safety films back when I was young. Kids being electrocuted with kites on pylons, crushed under tractors or screaming in agony after drinking bleach. Don't know if it made any difference. "
I drank bleach when I was a little kid and I'm still here
And ate paper, garden soil and coal .... |
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"Should we relax health and safety laws and allow natural selection to take a bigger part in cleansing our gene pool?
For example, get rid of the "danger of falling" signs next to cliff edges. People should know how gravity works. By all means, put a fence around it for the children, but apart from that, just let nature take its course "
Better still, shall we just cull 0.1% of the population in a hunger games style event, once a year? Think of the motivation it would give to the other 99.9% and how much that would boost the economy. |
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"I don't think it should be a legal requirement to wear helmets on motor bikes. If somebody is willing to take the chance of getting their brains smashed in then on their head be it."
One of the Darwin awards went to a guy who died after crashing a motorbike at a rally protesting helmets, where they'd all removed them |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I don't think it should be a legal requirement to wear helmets on motor bikes. If somebody is willing to take the chance of getting their brains smashed in then on their head be it.
One of the Darwin awards went to a guy who died after crashing a motorbike at a rally protesting helmets, where they'd all removed them"
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"Of course we could get rid of all H+S legislation altogether. E.G. get rid of signs saying 'Danger of Death' and replace them with signs saying 'Go on,what's the worst that could happen?'.
I'm sure this would result in some hilarious anecdotes about people climbing into electrical substations,smoking at gas stations or walking on railways.
Probably not very hilarious for those who have to clean up the mess,though.
I remember short safety films back when I was young. Kids being electrocuted with kites on pylons, crushed under tractors or screaming in agony after drinking bleach. Don't know if it made any difference.
I drank bleach when I was a little kid and I'm still here
And ate paper, garden soil and coal .... "
And the winner of the filthiest woman of the year award goes to  |
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By *andonmessMan
over a year ago
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The shit we have to do in work to protect operators from injuring themselves is cringeworthy. We're nannying people to ridiculous lengths.
We're essentially removing people's culpability for their own stupidity and it drives me bonkers. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The shit we have to do in work to protect operators from injuring themselves is cringeworthy. We're nannying people to ridiculous lengths.
We're essentially removing people's culpability for their own stupidity and it drives me bonkers."
Come on mate, working in kids soft play ain't that bad |
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By *andonmessMan
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"The shit we have to do in work to protect operators from injuring themselves is cringeworthy. We're nannying people to ridiculous lengths.
We're essentially removing people's culpability for their own stupidity and it drives me bonkers.
Come on mate, working in kids soft play ain't that bad "
Joking aside, I'm sure that they'd hurt themselves in there too |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Of course we could get rid of all H+S legislation altogether. E.G. get rid of signs saying 'Danger of Death' and replace them with signs saying 'Go on,what's the worst that could happen?'.
I'm sure this would result in some hilarious anecdotes about people climbing into electrical substations,smoking at gas stations or walking on railways.
Probably not very hilarious for those who have to clean up the mess,though.
I remember short safety films back when I was young. Kids being electrocuted with kites on pylons, crushed under tractors or screaming in agony after drinking bleach. Don't know if it made any difference.
I drank bleach when I was a little kid and I'm still here
And ate paper, garden soil and coal .... "
I drank red wine laced with bleach, white spirit and other nasty stuff when I was 16, because lads thought it would be funny to lace a bottle. I had d*unk 3/4s of the bottle before anyone said anything. I was very poorly the next day and all summer long had kidney and bladder problems. Drinking bleach is not fun |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Most "H&S" issues, in reality are nothing to do with HSE, but stipulated by insurance companies. A prime example is PAT testing. HSE don't require annual PAT testing, it's insurance companies that insist on it. |
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Given we are all in the Swinging scene...has anyone ever seen warning signs in a Club dungeon....
"Flogging may be painful"
"The Management take no responsibility for rope burns"
"Please ensure a responsible adult is present at all times"
I could go on....
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"Should we relax health and safety laws and allow natural selection to take a bigger part in cleansing our gene pool?
For example, get rid of the "danger of falling" signs next to cliff edges. People should know how gravity works. By all means, put a fence around it for the children, but apart from that, just let nature take its course
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To think of the money companies could save by not giving out hats, gloves, boots. Not to mention the cost of safety inspections and servicing, if someone dies at work they can fix the issue and hire someone else. |
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