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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Assuming you were in the dating arena, what would be the aspect about you that could potentially make you undateable?

Raw truth is always best!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Hubby. Age

Wife. Age

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The amount of times I fart when asleep

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Me - crazy family

Other half - nothing, he's lovely

P x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

My grandchildren.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham

Face, belly, swear like a sailor lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I sometimes scream like a girl in my sleep.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

No fixed abode (I'm not homeless, I just travel between places)

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Apallingly average looks and a dreary personality

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Looks, weight, general misanthropy, social ineptitude, sexual incompetence...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

My children x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

My fear of commitment

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

My collection of singing potatoes and the fact I'm quite, quite mad.

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By *llfoursWoman  over a year ago

north east

Weight, I’m far too sarcastic, and I snore

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm 43

I am a single mum of two young kids (under 10), one of whom has a developmental disorder and his disorder may get more challenging as he gets older.

We live with my mum

I have a mum with mobility issues so she requires a lot of help.

I'm very tall.

I'm fat.

I have a dog.

I suffer with depression off and on.

I'm experiencing peri menopausal symptoms.

Other than all this, i'm a catch

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

My tattoos and lack of height...oh and my age...oh and my dress sense...oh and my lack of humour....oh and my penis...oh and my...I give up...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm ugly

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My collection of singing potatoes and the fact I'm quite, quite mad. "

But is your real name Dr. Hildegard Landstrom?

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

I have been a swinger and enjoy being watched having sex.

I wish I knew but dating things have told me there are no matches for me. No one who meets me wants to date me either (the swinger thing and my madness are touched on).

I have been told that I am lovely, sexy, attractive, intelligent fun and interesting. I've also been told I am bonkers and that it's not my fault that I have had the career I have had but it's a little intimidating.

= Undateable Me.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My collection of singing potatoes and the fact I'm quite, quite mad.

But is your real name Dr. Hildegard Landstrom?"

#Busted

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My collection of singing potatoes and the fact I'm quite, quite mad.

But is your real name Dr. Hildegard Landstrom?

#Busted "

I'm sure you'll be a valuable asset to the team

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I work too much and have no free time to date.

Turns out guys don't like it when they only get to see a woman twice a month (yes this is from experience)

And I can't cook. Tend to use the smoke detector like a timer!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm 43

I am a single mum of two young kids (under 10), one of whom has a developmental disorder and his disorder may get more challenging as he gets older.

We live with my mum

I have a mum with mobility issues so she requires a lot of help.

I'm very tall.

I'm fat.

I have a dog.

I suffer with depression off and on.

I'm experiencing peri menopausal symptoms.

Other than all this, i'm a catch "

Still fab tho

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My collection of singing potatoes and the fact I'm quite, quite mad.

But is your real name Dr. Hildegard Landstrom?

#Busted

I'm sure you'll be a valuable asset to the team "

You know what you can get me for Christmas tho

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Everything

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I’m fat, I’m cheeky, I’m too independent

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My collection of singing potatoes and the fact I'm quite, quite mad.

But is your real name Dr. Hildegard Landstrom?

#Busted

I'm sure you'll be a valuable asset to the team

You know what you can get me for Christmas tho "

A puzzle book with all the crosswords filled in?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

My receiding hair line that maybe girls stare at when I'm talking to them or am I being paranoid?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm a fat little hobbit with a temper and a cheeky gob on me

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I get bored easily, manipulate people, and haven't time to maintain a normal relationship! Kinda makes me undatable apparently!

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By *astRider600Man  over a year ago

Brighton

Most likely my seriousness/lack of faith and humour aha

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Swearing

Sarcasm

Monthly tweeting Nathan Fillion

Fat

3 young(ish) kids

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My collection of singing potatoes and the fact I'm quite, quite mad.

But is your real name Dr. Hildegard Landstrom?

#Busted

I'm sure you'll be a valuable asset to the team

You know what you can get me for Christmas tho

A puzzle book with all the crosswords filled in?"

And a crochet magazine.

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By *ensuallover1000Man  over a year ago

Somewhere In The Ether…

I have a curious proclivity for nasal excavation.....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I snore....am fat....and work unsociable hours....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The fact that I don't really like people has historically been my problem. I honestly don't know how I found someone who would marry me.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Age. Most don't look past it (pardon the pun)

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It's impossible to win in an argument with me.

Least that's what my ex told me

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Age. Most don't look past it (pardon the pun)"

I laughed!

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By *ogisticalBigManMan  over a year ago

Sheffield


"I snore....am fat....and work unsociable hours.... "

Makes 2 of us. Plus I travel about too much

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By *etter the devil you knowWoman  over a year ago

Lyndhurst

Size and age.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My collection of singing potatoes and the fact I'm quite, quite mad.

But is your real name Dr. Hildegard Landstrom?

#Busted

I'm sure you'll be a valuable asset to the team

You know what you can get me for Christmas tho

A puzzle book with all the crosswords filled in?

And a crochet magazine."

Game of chess?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Face, belly, swear like a sailor lol "

Same

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Face, belly, swear like a sailor lol

Same "

Hahahahaha snap

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm fat and not partner material

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By *eesideMan  over a year ago

margate sumwear by the sea

Just shear bad luck i think.

That or I'm cursed to be singing for ever.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm a dick and will probably always be a dick....

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By *crumdiddlyumptiousMan  over a year ago

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Don't look my age

Quiet in large groups

Smoker

Just as fussy with the food I eat as I am with the Women I like

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

All the bloody Victoria's secret model ex girlfriends! Really intimidates any dates.

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By *andybeachWoman  over a year ago

In the middle

50 and fat

Plain looking

Terrible at small talk and chit chat

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My collection of singing potatoes and the fact I'm quite, quite mad.

But is your real name Dr. Hildegard Landstrom?

#Busted

I'm sure you'll be a valuable asset to the team

You know what you can get me for Christmas tho

A puzzle book with all the crosswords filled in?

And a crochet magazine.

Game of chess?"

I love chess, however Mr Flibble gets very cross.

How's about a game of pool?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"50 and fat

Plain looking

Terrible at small talk and chit chat

"

Your avatar that looks like you've pooped may not be helping.....!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Age. Most don't look past it (pardon the pun)

I laughed!"

You can afford to.....

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By *iffler 2019Woman  over a year ago

Saltash aka Fraggle Rock

I'm ugly, suffer from mental health problems, suffer from health problems so yeah I guess I am un-dateable x

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By *hinypants77Man  over a year ago

Leeds

I’m probably undatable due being emotionally damaged with complex trust issues.

I’m also a prolific womaniser these days. I am however 95% honest. I also a sexual deviant but that’s a bonus.

The best thing about being single is getting the Tesco finest meal deal for two then be able to eat the whole thing yourself!

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By *irtyGirlWoman  over a year ago

Edinburgh

I’m a commitment phobe

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By *iss.RedWoman  over a year ago

somewhere

Nearly 40, getting desperate

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

My height(lack of!)

And the fact i like to dress as the girl i dont have

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By *ust PeachyWoman  over a year ago

Prestonish


" Assuming you were in the dating arena, what would be the aspect about you that could potentially make you undateable?

Raw truth is always best!"

Farting and snoring in bed - and being a swinger!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Matt: hes steak farts are toxic. Hes a grump. Hes need to plan everything (boos opinions of course)

Me: weight. I snore and dribble in my sleep. I dont plan anything. ( matts opinion would be different im sure)

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Im a little tubbier than id like

Nowadays

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

In the past the list has been

1 I'm friends with my first wife, and the Green eyed monster pops up eventually.

2 my age and my son's age make long term plans difficult, women my age tend to have older kids who aren't so dependant, and women who have kids my son's age tend to be quite young themselves.

3 I don't understand the concept of jealously, I could be head over heels in love with someone and still not bat an eyelid if she was fucking someone else in front of me.

4 I'm fiercely independent, I haven't needed a woman to look after me since I was about 12, and it comes across as me being critical.

But now I have the maid in my life, and as much as I love being single, she makes my life happier, easier, and more fun all round, she is the single most special person I have ever met, she gets me, and I get her, and yeah, there are things she does that are annoying, but I'm more than willing to put up with it because the rest of her personality is worth it.

We are at the stage now where we have introduced our kids to each other and it's all great.

Sorry for going on lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My collection of singing potatoes and the fact I'm quite, quite mad.

But is your real name Dr. Hildegard Landstrom?

#Busted

I'm sure you'll be a valuable asset to the team

You know what you can get me for Christmas tho

A puzzle book with all the crosswords filled in?

And a crochet magazine.

Game of chess?

I love chess, however Mr Flibble gets very cross.

How's about a game of pool?

"

Balls or planets? And have you checked under the table for Ouroboros boxes?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

My age.

My health.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The fact I’m still quite good friends with my ex husband, lots of men wouldn’t be that understanding lol.

Geeky x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The fact I’m still quite good friends with my ex husband, lots of men wouldn’t be that understanding lol.

Geeky x"

Same here. Really good mates with ex wife but think it's amazing.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The fact that I don't really like people has historically been my problem. I honestly don't know how I found someone who would marry me. "

I would marry you if you wore long socks everyday

And to answer the question, me or should I say I! I make myself undatable

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By *exycouplemmmmCouple  over a year ago

Surrey

I won’t shag until about week 7/8 once I have got to know you! Most have waited to be fair and had led to a relationship rather than a one night stand .... x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

My moodiness.

My alopecia.

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By *uteLittleGeekWoman  over a year ago

Somewhere

My bluntness and my dog

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By *andybeachWoman  over a year ago

In the middle


"50 and fat

Plain looking

Terrible at small talk and chit chat

Your avatar that looks like you've pooped may not be helping.....!"

Excuse me

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Nothing. I'm perfect

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

My farting when I start I can't stop

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By *crumdiddlyumptiousMan  over a year ago

.


"My farting when I start I can't stop "

Can you play a tune ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" Assuming you were in the dating arena, what would be the aspect about you that could potentially make you undateable?

Raw truth is always best!"

A low self esteem

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My farting when I start I can't stop

Can you play a tune ?

"

Emmerdale tune it's great

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The fact I’m still quite good friends with my ex husband, lots of men wouldn’t be that understanding lol.

Geeky x

Same here. Really good mates with ex wife but think it's amazing. "

Made it better for the kids in my opinion, plus also I was friends with him for 8 years before we got married so you know, we are just where we are before we married lol.

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By *crumdiddlyumptiousMan  over a year ago

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"My farting when I start I can't stop

Can you play a tune ?

Emmerdale tune it's great "

Impressive

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My farting when I start I can't stop

Can you play a tune ?

Emmerdale tune it's great

Impressive

"

I know ....even more impressive when in the bath and watching the bubbles

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By *queekyCheesyCouple  over a year ago

newark


"Raw truth is always best!"

And that is and always will be my downfall.

People say they want the truth.. And I'll tell the coldest harshest truth you've ever heard..

Suddenly your the bad guy.. humans

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

My old boat race probably

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Wibble yip yip

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford

I have a whole collection of oddnesses which, whilst seperately might not be a deal breaker, together make me the undateables.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Age. Most don't look past it (pardon the pun)

I laughed!

You can afford to....."

Am only 5 years behind you!!

Assuming you're being truthful....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Wibble yip yip "

You get truck fixed last night mate?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Anxiety disorder

Fiercely independent

Grumpy

High sex drive

A bit overweight

Very dorky

Massive geek

Awkward

Been very promiscuous

And possibly can't have kids

So yeah pretty much undateable to men and so decided that I'll bat for the other team as I'm bi anyway and see if that attracts better results lol

Maybe the issue has always been I don't like men enough lol

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By *s_macWoman  over a year ago

Traffic land

Fiercely independent, lack of spare time (and that I do have I like to be with friends or on my own on the sofa in my Jim jams), unwillingness to let my family life be encroached on by anyone else.

I’m not as horrid as that makes me sound

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My collection of singing potatoes and the fact I'm quite, quite mad.

But is your real name Dr. Hildegard Landstrom?

#Busted

I'm sure you'll be a valuable asset to the team

You know what you can get me for Christmas tho

A puzzle book with all the crosswords filled in?

And a crochet magazine.

Game of chess?

I love chess, however Mr Flibble gets very cross.

How's about a game of pool?

Balls or planets? And have you checked under the table for Ouroboros boxes?"

Balls obviously,

I can knock those striped balls around the table all night long, and I tell you what, I have never once lost a single ball down one of those holes!

You know they call me Madi "Cinzano Bianco" Blue 'cause once I was on the table, you couldn't get rid of me.

Will go check for our rob or ross boxes.

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By *a Fee VerteWoman  over a year ago

Limbo


" Assuming you were in the dating arena, what would be the aspect about you that could potentially make you undateable? Raw truth is always best!"

I'm both socially inept and often anti-social

I'm obsessed with cats

I have nerdy interests like the London Underground, and great apes

I have little self esteem/confidence

Given my age the menopause must be imminent so could potentially be about to morph into even more of an old crone than I already am!

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By *eryBigGirlWoman  over a year ago

East Yorkshire

Just everything

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My fear of commitment "

Im the same

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Stubborn. A bit of a loner. Can talk/bore someone to death if I do get chance. Probably smell of dog or horse most of the day. Likes a double bed all to myself now.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My collection of singing potatoes and the fact I'm quite, quite mad.

But is your real name Dr. Hildegard Landstrom?

#Busted

I'm sure you'll be a valuable asset to the team

You know what you can get me for Christmas tho

A puzzle book with all the crosswords filled in?

And a crochet magazine.

Game of chess?

I love chess, however Mr Flibble gets very cross.

How's about a game of pool?

Balls or planets? And have you checked under the table for Ouroboros boxes?

Balls obviously,

I can knock those striped balls around the table all night long, and I tell you what, I have never once lost a single ball down one of those holes!

You know they call me Madi "Cinzano Bianco" Blue 'cause once I was on the table, you couldn't get rid of me.

Will go check for our rob or ross boxes."

Cool. I'll go and put the toaster on.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

My ex's attempt at identifying a bad quality about me was my sarcasm

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By *otSoNewWalesCoupleCouple  over a year ago

South Wales

I can't stop talking Klingon when I'm out shopping and stuff.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I can't stop talking Klingon when I'm out shopping and stuff."

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Indesisive, a little bit crazy, limited availability, I want more than just one person to have sex with forever

I like dp, group sex and trying to introduce ‘normal’ people to this life is more than a challenge lol

Fab boys just want sex and I hate feeling like I’m being used

Basicly doomed lol

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By *emini ManMan  over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

Distinctly average - bit of a belly - grind teeth and snore - smallest bladder known to man - lacking in self-confidence...

....but other than that I'm alright I suppose!!

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By *elloWoman  over a year ago

alpha centauri

Being scared of intimacy and commitment makes me a nightmare after a few dates.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

My imaginary friend, CatSlayer

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By *ty31Man  over a year ago

NW London

I'm a cunt. That's enuff.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I definitely appear undatable as I got unceremoniously dumped 3 weeks ago

For me... trust issues ... not good ... tears for me haha

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My collection of singing potatoes and the fact I'm quite, quite mad.

But is your real name Dr. Hildegard Landstrom?

#Busted

I'm sure you'll be a valuable asset to the team

You know what you can get me for Christmas tho

A puzzle book with all the crosswords filled in?

And a crochet magazine.

Game of chess?

I love chess, however Mr Flibble gets very cross.

How's about a game of pool?

Balls or planets? And have you checked under the table for Ouroboros boxes?

Balls obviously,

I can knock those striped balls around the table all night long, and I tell you what, I have never once lost a single ball down one of those holes!

You know they call me Madi "Cinzano Bianco" Blue 'cause once I was on the table, you couldn't get rid of me.

Will go check for our rob or ross boxes.

Cool. I'll go and put the toaster on."

You'll never hear the last of it, best take the lump hammer, just incase.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My collection of singing potatoes and the fact I'm quite, quite mad.

But is your real name Dr. Hildegard Landstrom?

#Busted

I'm sure you'll be a valuable asset to the team

You know what you can get me for Christmas tho

A puzzle book with all the crosswords filled in?

And a crochet magazine.

Game of chess?

I love chess, however Mr Flibble gets very cross.

How's about a game of pool?

Balls or planets? And have you checked under the table for Ouroboros boxes?

Balls obviously,

I can knock those striped balls around the table all night long, and I tell you what, I have never once lost a single ball down one of those holes!

You know they call me Madi "Cinzano Bianco" Blue 'cause once I was on the table, you couldn't get rid of me.

Will go check for our rob or ross boxes.

Cool. I'll go and put the toaster on.

You'll never hear the last of it, best take the lump hammer, just incase. "

I'll just get it started on the subject of waffles, that'll keep it out of trouble.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

There is nobody of the same species as me on this planet,

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By *ophieslutTV/TS  over a year ago

Central

I'm a little challenging

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I snore like a bastard , wear ladies knickers and have a small cock

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Size and looks

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I wear superman budgie smugglers on a Saturday.

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By *eanut Butter CupWoman  over a year ago

B & M Bargains

I’m fat and I’m not stupid enough to let myself be treated like shit so it makes me look like I don’t care when really it’s just self-preservation.

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By *illy_the_tvTV/TS  over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands

I'm a TV...

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By *hoenixAdAstraWoman  over a year ago

Hiding in the shadows

I'm a bit of a twat

Fiercely independent

Have an attitude

Swear enough to make a navvy blush

Stupidly tall

Have a very complicated family life

Like my own space

I have serious commitment issues

Hate ironing

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


" Assuming you were in the dating arena, what would be the aspect about you that could potentially make you undateable?

Raw truth is always best!

A low self esteem "

Aww but you have great shoulders!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The amount of time I spend with my kids.

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"I'm a little challenging"

I may be a touch challenging too, lol, and my car smells like a damp horse some days.

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By *oxy BBWWoman  over a year ago

Home Counties

Size and age

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

Where to start.

I'd scare them off because I would tell them straight up exactly what I was after long term.

If they were still there after that they would have to cope with me not being girly or willing to do the giggling and batting of eyelashes thing.

I think that would just about put the tin lid on it .

We often say its a good thing we met each other because nobody else would put up with us.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Size and potty mouth

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I’d be here all day listing mine, so I may as well just say me

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Im incredibly ugly but it does not seem to put the men off... i dont know why.

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By *hatYorkLadMan  over a year ago

York

I snore.

A bit of a commitment phobe unless I'm 100% into someone.

I'm a bit of an adrenaline junkie.

I'm away a lot on weekends.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Still in love with my ex!?

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By *r n Mrs NaughtyCouple  over a year ago

eccles


"Still in love with my ex!? "

This is the wrong place for you x

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By *inky Biscuit DunkerMan  over a year ago

Gloucestershire

I drink too much tea, dunk too many biscuits & constantly eating cake. Plus I look like an older version of the Milky Bar Kid or, where's Wally

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I drink too much tea, dunk too many biscuits & constantly eating cake. Plus I look like an older version of the Milky Bar Kid or, where's Wally "

Are you me from the future?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Am nearly 50 and a submissive TV.

That puts most people off

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By *iercedyvonneTV/TS  over a year ago

Glasgow

Way too many piercings.

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By *inky Biscuit DunkerMan  over a year ago

Gloucestershire


"I drink too much tea, dunk too many biscuits & constantly eating cake. Plus I look like an older version of the Milky Bar Kid or, where's Wally

Are you me from the future? "

Yes, now if I could just get this damn Flux Capacitor working again...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I drink too much tea, dunk too many biscuits & constantly eating cake. Plus I look like an older version of the Milky Bar Kid or, where's Wally

Are you me from the future?

Yes, now if I could just get this damn Flux Capacitor working again..."

I make it past 40? Excellent, I never thought I would.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan  over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

I chat too much bollocks and probably swear too fucking much !!

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By *inky Biscuit DunkerMan  over a year ago

Gloucestershire


"I drink too much tea, dunk too many biscuits & constantly eating cake. Plus I look like an older version of the Milky Bar Kid or, where's Wally

Are you me from the future?

Yes, now if I could just get this damn Flux Capacitor working again...

I make it past 40? Excellent, I never thought I would. "

No no wait, there's something important you need to know first. Orange Pekoe is your friend.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I’m as boring as a game of Campaign, have the social skills of a recluse and look like Bernard Manning’s long lost Uncle.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I drink too much tea, dunk too many biscuits & constantly eating cake. Plus I look like an older version of the Milky Bar Kid or, where's Wally

Are you me from the future?

Yes, now if I could just get this damn Flux Capacitor working again...

I make it past 40? Excellent, I never thought I would.

No no wait, there's something important you need to know first. Orange Pekoe is your friend."

I always wanted a friend

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Still in love with my ex!?

This is the wrong place for you x"

Not really. Just means I Dont want a relationship. Casual meets are OK. Just dont want to commit to anything or fall in love. Besides I think you'll all miss me if I go?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I wish I knew.... something keeps me from being lucky in love lol

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By *rs Myvanwy Scarlet-BlackTV/TS  over a year ago

Darlaston

My list is so long you and very complicated sorry

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