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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

How sad that this has happened yet again 6 confirmed dead 30 injured !

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Apparently 3 attackers were shot dead by armed response ,,

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How sad that this has happened yet again 6 confirmed dead 30 injured !"

We live in a very sad world I dread listening to the news these days

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"How sad that this has happened yet again 6 confirmed dead 30 injured !

We live in a very sad world I dread listening to the news these days "

I'm so saddened, it's scary. If I could give my children or grandchildren any advice it would be to not have kids, as its not a world if want to grow up in.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How sad that this has happened yet again 6 confirmed dead 30 injured !

We live in a very sad world I dread listening to the news these days

I'm so saddened, it's scary. If I could give my children or grandchildren any advice it would be to not have kids, as its not a world if want to grow up in. "

Same here I worry about my young grankids growing up in the world we live in

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

There was a post on the other day about armed police on the streets. Last night armed police shot dead 3 terrorist who were stabbing people on uk London streets and pubs!!! I rest my case

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By *abes in the woodWoman over a year ago

wales

It's getting scarey now to what world comming 2 children growing into this generation it shocking .

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"It's getting scarey now to what world comming 2 children growing into this generation it shocking ."

It's sickening and scary

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

My thoughts are with the victims and their loved ones...so very sad...x

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"My thoughts are with the victims and their loved ones...so very sad...x"

Totally agree. We downgraded our terrorist attack From severe to critical ! However our armed response shot dead 3 terrorist on a stabbing rampage

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By *uddlybear2015Man over a year ago

BEDFORD

Be Vigilant not Vigilantes Be Watchful not Prejedicial. Love to all affected. And remember;Don't let the bastards grind us down!

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By *tephanjMan over a year ago

Kettering

This was awful news. My thoughts are with the victims families. Personally I will never let these idiots worry me or be frightened of going anywhere as that seems to be what they want. Britain has been through worse things and we always stand together against these people

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Be Vigilant not Vigilantes Be Watchful not Prejedicial. Love to all affected. And remember;Don't let the bastards grind us down!"

Great words !!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Warped, sick fuckers.

Well done to our police for responding to it so quickly. I just hope the armed officers were able to make the terrorists deaths slow and painful.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

My thoughts are with the people who lost their lives and with their loved ones who lost someone close to them.

Love and admiration for the police who responded

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Be Vigilant not Vigilantes Be Watchful not Prejedicial. Love to all affected. And remember;Don't let the bastards grind us down!"

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By *htcMan over a year ago

Sad. Maybe people might use some common sense before they choose who they vote for.

On which party is going to open the doors again.

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By *agneto.Man over a year ago

Bham

"Sad. Maybe people might use some common sense before they choose who they vote for.

On which party is going to open the doors again."

Yes it's all to do with migration. Nothing to do with selling arms to the Saudis who then resell to Isis. Nothing to do with reducing police numbers.

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By *lay 4 uMan over a year ago

bolton

yet again six dead in the name of this peaceful religion . well done to the police sadly the do gooders will want an inquest into the police and make the officers go through hell but take heart the pm is holding a cobra meeting and as usual nothing will be done . once a nations of lions turned into lambs on the back of pc brigade .

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By *he-Hosiery-GentMan over a year ago

Older Hot Bearded Guy

"Sad. Maybe people might use some common sense before they choose who they vote for.

On which party is going to open the doors again."

Far too late for that. Besides the establishment aren't bothered about you and I.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Enoch Powell was right....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Thoughts to all those lost and injured and gratitude to the phenomenal response from the Police and emergency services.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think people forget how scary it was in the 80's and 90's with the IRA. Today it's just highlighted more by the media.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think people forget how scary it was in the 80's and 90's with the IRA. Today it's just highlighted more by the media. "

At least there were political discussions that resolved those bad times.

Cant see an end to this

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By *iker boy 69Man over a year ago

midlands

"How sad that this has happened yet again 6 confirmed dead 30 injured !

We live in a very sad world I dread listening to the news these days

I'm so saddened, it's scary. If I could give my children or grandchildren any advice it would be to not have kids, as its not a world if want to grow up in. "

Exact reason me and my ex split. I said theres no way would i want kids growing up in to this world. Not just terror, but financially also. Having to save 25k to be able to buy a house etc. The world is fucked

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By *igSuki81Man over a year ago

Retirement Village

"Enoch Powell was right....

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By *oiluvfunMan over a year ago

Penrith

Mourn the loss of the innocents, celebrate the removal of three more cowards

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Enoch Powell was right....

Sorry if i offfended your lefty views

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan over a year ago

salisbury

"I think people forget how scary it was in the 80's and 90's with the IRA. Today it's just highlighted more by the media. "

The IRA wanted a free Ireland. These losers want you, your family and your friends, dead.

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By *rincess peachWoman over a year ago

shits creek

Sickening. My thoughys are with the families of all who have been caught up in this horrific incident.

Gotta take my hat off to the police. Killed the bastards within 8 mins of the first call.

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By *igSuki81Man over a year ago

Retirement Village

"Enoch Powell was right....

Sorry if i offfended your lefty views

You haven't offended my views at all so no need to apologise

I'm just taking a seat in this thread as sad as a topic as it is i feel the thread may end up going off topic and in to another 'bash em' sessions which are intresting to read

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By *iddyandherCouple over a year ago

Benidorm

i think the time mayhave arrived to arm ourselves

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan over a year ago

salisbury

"Mourn the loss of the innocents, celebrate the removal of three more cowards

l'd have been disappointed if my taxes were keeping them alive. Hopefully death was slow.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Sickening. My thoughys are with the families of all who have been caught up in this horrific incident.

Gotta take my hat off to the police. Killed the bastards within 8 mins of the first call."

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan over a year ago

salisbury

" i think the time mayhave arrived to arm ourselves "

What's taken you so long?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It was awful but it could have been a lot worse is the police response wasn't so quick and decisive. The mp's and police bosses talk a lot of nonsense that comes from a handbook but the guys and girls on the ground who actually do the policing do a great job. 8 minutes from initial call to three dead bad guys is amazing. Bearing in mind it takes a minute or so for the incident to be recorded and then go thru the chain of command before deployment, it was probably more like 4 or 5 minutes from being deployed to shooting them dead. You can't argue with that.

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By *eefyBangerMan over a year ago

edinburgh

The real victims in all of this will be the Muslim communities the length and breadth of the UK who will now be living in constant fear for the inevitable backlash

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The real victims in all of this will be the Muslim communities the length and breadth of the UK who will now be living in constant fear for the inevitable backlash

I think you'll find that the real victims are laying dead in a morgue, are laying injured in our hospitals and are sat wondering why their loved ones didn't come home last night and how they are going to carry on with their lives now they have been torn apart by evil.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"The real victims in all of this will be the Muslim communities the length and breadth of the UK who will now be living in constant fear for the inevitable backlash

So the people who died or were injured last night are not real victims?! What a fucking stupid statement to make at a time like this!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Pitchforks at the ready.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Sad. Maybe people might use some common sense before they choose who they vote for.

On which party is going to open the doors again."

Once the details come out, it is highly likely that these men were British citizens who have lived here for years, not migrants.

One thing I find odd though is that they had fake suicide vests on, I can't see ISIS sympathisers wearing fake vests!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Has any group admitted to being behind this cowardly attack on innocent people ?

This cowardice of attacking the innocent public just proves how weak the attackers really are.

If it comes out that the attackers were "known to security services" then it's time we shut down our borders until EVERY single activist/terrorist & even sympathetic to terrorism is thrown out of OUR country.

It's time to stop being gentle & finally rid our shores of cowards who have no respect of others.

Stand firm & NEVER give in to terrorists.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

we put off having kids for years because we werent wanting to bring them into such an awful world - a generation along and now mine think along the same lines - but more so - it is so very sad and physically makes me feel sick

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's not good however don't ever let these attacks stop us having fun and looking after each others needs because otherwise they would have been successful. Keep fabbin! X

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By *onny MCMan over a year ago

Crawley

"The real victims in all of this will be the Muslim communities the length and breadth of the UK who will now be living in constant fear for the inevitable backlash

So the people who died or were injured last night are not real victims?! What a fucking stupid statement to make at a time like this! "

Maybe poorly worded but someone who's assaulted just for being Muslim by some right wing nutcase is no less a victim than a Brit who was stabbed by one of last night's fanatics.

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By *ystical_InkedBBWWoman over a year ago

somewhere in the Shire of Derby

I for one, will not live in fear, I will get on with my life and live it the way I choose. I'm not going to let fear of when or how I may die control the hear and now. Over half a million deaths a year in this country and the majority of those are age and health related. Not violence, not terrorism which account for less than 0.1%. That minute percentage will not control me!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think people forget how scary it was in the 80's and 90's with the IRA. Today it's just highlighted more by the media.

The IRA wanted a free Ireland. These losers want you, your family and your friends, dead."

^ Stop trying to make excuses or make them sound less pig like. The IRA just like Isis were cowardly cold blooded killers!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The real victims in all of this will be the Muslim communities the length and breadth of the UK who will now be living in constant fear for the inevitable backlash

So the people who died or were injured last night are not real victims?! What a fucking stupid statement to make at a time like this!

Maybe poorly worded but someone who's assaulted just for being Muslim by some right wing nutcase is no less a victim than a Brit who was stabbed by one of last night's fanatics. "

Who said they were. Nobody has suggested going out and assaulting Muslims, are there any stories in the news today of Muslims being hunted down and killed, maimed or injured? there was no backlash against Muslims after Manchester and I doubt there will be after this. But to say the real victims of this attack are Muslims is pathetic and idiotic.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think they (terrorists) wanted to do something yesterday down here in Cardiff but the security was just insane.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think they (terrorists) wanted to do something yesterday down here in Cardiff but the security was just insane. "

It's better to have too many than not enough. They had police from all over the country in Cardiff yesterday, mutual aid its called.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

ISIS doesn't make Islam a bad religion any more than the Klu Klux Klan makes Christianity a bad religion, with 2.8 million practicing Muslims in the UK, around 5% of our population, we should note the fact it's the second biggest religion here, if it was the fault of the religion, with those kind of numbers we'd truly be fucked.

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By *agneto.Man over a year ago

Bham

"The real victims in all of this will be the Muslim communities the length and breadth of the UK who will now be living in constant fear for the inevitable backlash

So the people who died or were injured last night are not real victims?! What a fucking stupid statement to make at a time like this!

Maybe poorly worded but someone who's assaulted just for being Muslim by some right wing nutcase is no less a victim than a Brit who was stabbed by one of last night's fanatics.

There was. The police said there was a spike in hate crimes after Manchester.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think they (terrorists) wanted to do something yesterday down here in Cardiff but the security was just insane. "

I agree with that

Im hoping that Cardiffs security is just as good when we come there in July to the speedway GP.

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By *eefyBangerMan over a year ago

edinburgh

I think there's been a few "whoosh" moments from my previous post

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan over a year ago

salisbury

"I think people forget how scary it was in the 80's and 90's with the IRA. Today it's just highlighted more by the media.

The IRA wanted a free Ireland. These losers want you, your family and your friends, dead.

^ Stop trying to make excuses or make them sound less pig like. The IRA just like Isis were cowardly cold blooded killers! "

I'm not making excuses for the IRA, I'm pointing out the fact that these losers don't want peace talks or agreements, they want us westerners dead. Because we're not losers like them.

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By *iss_tressWoman over a year ago

London

"The real victims in all of this will be the Muslim communities the length and breadth of the UK who will now be living in constant fear for the inevitable backlash

Are you serious?!!

People are dead! THEY are the victims. What a crass statement.

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By *ENGUYMan over a year ago

Hull

The key factor with the British is we never give in!

During WW2, Hitler tried to break our spirit but failed.

In the 70's and 80's, the IRA tried with their bombing campaign, but failed.

Then, these deluded terrorists whose ideology is so twisted and so far from the reality of the religion they claim to follow, plus hate our way of life, just don't realise they won't break our spirit, not today, not ever!

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By *iss_tressWoman over a year ago

London

"The real victims in all of this will be the Muslim communities the length and breadth of the UK who will now be living in constant fear for the inevitable backlash

Indeed!

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By *iss_tressWoman over a year ago

London

"The real victims in all of this will be the Muslim communities the length and breadth of the UK who will now be living in constant fear for the inevitable backlash

So the people who died or were injured last night are not real victims?! What a fucking stupid statement to make at a time like this! "

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan over a year ago

salisbury

7 dead.

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By *nglishdoodMan over a year ago

Morristown

It's 7 dead now.

Stop the immigration blame game. None of these attackers have been anything other than British-born citizens.

It's a twisted ideology. Islam isn't the reason... It's just a convenient motivation and justification for thise with an agenda. I'm in Saudi Arabia right now. I get no sense of hatred from any of the locals I interact with here.

Every time this happens there's a general swing to the right, and that's just want these bastards want.

We need to look at the bigger picture and create a society where no one wants to commit these crimes.

Kicking in doors at 3am and 'disappearing' suspects or bombing villages isn't the answer... That just perpetuates the vicious circle.

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By *iss_tressWoman over a year ago

London

"The real victims in all of this will be the Muslim communities the length and breadth of the UK who will now be living in constant fear for the inevitable backlash

So the people who died or were injured last night are not real victims?! What a fucking stupid statement to make at a time like this!

Maybe poorly worded but someone who's assaulted just for being Muslim by some right wing nutcase is no less a victim than a Brit who was stabbed by one of last night's fanatics. "

I despair.

Are you seriously comparing being attacked to being blown to smithereens?!!

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By *agneto.Man over a year ago

Bham

"It's 7 dead now.

Stop the immigration blame game. None of these attackers have been anything other than British-born citizens.

Every time this happens there's a general swing to the right, and that's just want these bastards want.

We need to look at the bigger picture and create a society where no one wants to commit these crimes.

Kicking in doors at 3am and 'disappearing' suspects or bombing villages isn't the answer... That just perpetuates the vicious circle. "

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By *lay 4 uMan over a year ago

bolton

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The more hatred these cells of deluded terrorists can cause the more divide and upset they can cause the more they can recruit from the backlash. They're using Britains own 'divide and rule strategy' against us.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I was working at one of the events that is held yearly in Cambridge and there was an increase in security and police presence following what happened in Manchester but it went so smoothly that they didn't have much to intervene with. I think it was just more of a precaution then anything

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

People need to realise there is a massive difference between being a Muslim and a Muslim extremist. Your average Muslim does not condone these attacks any more than the average non Muslim. Don't blame a religion, blame the sick fuckers who twist their book to suit their own evil agenda.

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By *iddyandherCouple over a year ago

Benidorm

most conflicts/wars is religion based.get rid of all religions no wars.!

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By *nglishdoodMan over a year ago

Morristown

"most conflicts/wars is religion based.get rid of all religions no wars.!"

I don't disagree, but I suspect the twats would find a new justification pretty quickly.

Remember how it was all Marxism in the 70s and 80s. Baader Meinhoff etc?

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By *ost SockMan over a year ago

West Wales and Cardiff

"I think they (terrorists) wanted to do something yesterday down here in Cardiff but the security was just insane. "

It's possible, but Cardiff was wonderful yesterday. The security was heavier than normal, but it didn't feel overly intrusive IMO.

Yes, there were some pairs of armed officers around, but they spent most of their time happily posing for photos with fans and smiling.

Having a few road blocks was fine.

I drove back 100 miles back to my old city to spend the day enjoying the occasion. It's important for those who feel ok to do that, do so.

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By *lay 4 uMan over a year ago

bolton

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By *iddyandherCouple over a year ago

Benidorm

yes I agree.as long as man kind is in self distruction mode nothing will alter.!!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think people forget how scary it was in the 80's and 90's with the IRA. Today it's just highlighted more by the media.

The IRA wanted a free Ireland. These losers want you, your family and your friends, dead."

I'm not sure exactly who they are or what they want, but if they have a cause they could get feared and more reprisals, which would help their recruitment, and they could be happy with that.

Sad times and some of the responses on this thread are making me sad. A tragic event has occurred and a lot of self appointed judges with little information to go on.

I don't want to have too much of a rant, but if you're getting into the political side of it, remember who is in power in the UK and how effective of ineffective they have been at preventing this. If you want to live in a highly secure police state, look at the bombings that happened in the highly secure area of Kabul recently.

Tired, angry and confused right now. Probably a good job there's no one here for me to talk to, as my words would probably make little sense

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By *odernLoveDublinMan over a year ago

dublin

"Sad. Maybe people might use some common sense before they choose who they vote for.

On which party is going to open the doors again."

I think your foreign policy has far more to do with it than your immigration policy but never let the truth stand in the way of "mass hysteria"

As an outsider looking in I can assure you a Labour Government would result in a far safer Britain long term

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan over a year ago

salisbury

"yes I agree.as long as man kind is in self distruction mode nothing will alter.!!!"

Isis and it's followers aren't men. They are cowards. Losers.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The real victims in all of this will be the Muslim communities the length and breadth of the UK who will now be living in constant fear for the inevitable backlash

So the people who died or were injured last night are not real victims?! What a fucking stupid statement to make at a time like this!

Maybe poorly worded but someone who's assaulted just for being Muslim by some right wing nutcase is no less a victim than a Brit who was stabbed by one of last night's fanatics.

There was. The police said there was a spike in hate crimes after Manchester. "

And piers Morgan said the community should be doing more to combat terrorism.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan over a year ago

salisbury

"Sad. Maybe people might use some common sense before they choose who they vote for.

On which party is going to open the doors again.

I think your foreign policy has far more to do with it than your immigration policy but never let the truth stand in the way of "mass hysteria"

As an outsider looking in I can assure you a Labour Government would result in a far safer Britain long term"

Agreed. What we need is more people like Tony Blair spreading love around the middle East.

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By *lay 4 uMan over a year ago

bolton

All terrorist to be buried in pigs carcus.feel sure Muslims around the world would agree with this as they do not represent Islam or the believe of this peaceful religion. Also may make the terrorist think twice no 80 virgins .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Maximum respect to the police. I'm glad these cowards who did this are dead.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan over a year ago

salisbury

"I think people forget how scary it was in the 80's and 90's with the IRA. Today it's just highlighted more by the media.

The IRA wanted a free Ireland. These losers want you, your family and your friends, dead.

I'm not sure exactly who they are or what they want, but if they have a cause they could get feared and more reprisals, which would help their recruitment, and they could be happy with that.

Sad times and some of the responses on this thread are making me sad. A tragic event has occurred and a lot of self appointed judges with little information to go on.

Tired, angry and confused right now. Probably a good job there's no one here for me to talk to, as my words would probably make little sense "

Thankyou for those words dirty sex pig.

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

O o O oo

"People need to realise there is a massive difference between being a Muslim and a Muslim extremist. Your average Muslim does not condone these attacks any more than the average non Muslim. Don't blame a religion, blame the sick fuckers who twist their book to suit their own evil agenda. "

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By * and M lookingCouple over a year ago

Worcester

"Sad. Maybe people might use some common sense before they choose who they vote for.

On which party is going to open the doors again.

I think your foreign policy has far more to do with it than your immigration policy but never let the truth stand in the way of "mass hysteria"

As an outsider looking in I can assure you a Labour Government would result in a far safer Britain long term

Agreed. What we need is more people like Tony Blair spreading love around the middle East.

You can't be serious endless labour governments and the apathy of the others is what has gotten us into this.

Wake up people.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan over a year ago

salisbury

"Sad. Maybe people might use some common sense before they choose who they vote for.

On which party is going to open the doors again.

I think your foreign policy has far more to do with it than your immigration policy but never let the truth stand in the way of "mass hysteria"

As an outsider looking in I can assure you a Labour Government would result in a far safer Britain long term

Agreed. What we need is more people like Tony Blair spreading love around the middle East.

You can't be serious endless labour governments and the apathy of the others is what has gotten us into this.

Wake up people."

Oh no! Just look at all the good that was done for western/Arab relations under labour. Let's have some more of that.....

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By *izzabelle and well hungCouple over a year ago

Edinburgh.

"All terrorist to be buried in pigs carcus.feel sure Muslims around the world would agree with this as they do not represent Islam or the believe of this peaceful religion. Also may make the terrorist think twice no 80 virgins ."
good point.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The reality of Islam is in the countries it runs - not your friendly local shopkeeper here. In the countries it runs people are victimised and terrorised, there is no freedom for many, you will be punished severly for dissent - sounds like fascism to me. Our way of life would not be allowed by them in any place it controls. I agree it is not the people at fault but the ideology - a bit like trying to differentiate between Germans and Nazis in the 30s.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think they (terrorists) wanted to do something yesterday down here in Cardiff but the security was just insane. "

lol glorious oxymoron.

I'd say given the Insanity of terrorists, the high security was perfectly sane and necessary....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's 7 dead now.

Stop the immigration blame game. None of these attackers have been anything other than British-born citizens.

Every time this happens there's a general swing to the right, and that's just want these bastards want.

We need to look at the bigger picture and create a society where no one wants to commit these crimes.

Kicking in doors at 3am and 'disappearing' suspects or bombing villages isn't the answer... That just perpetuates the vicious circle. "

Muslims get bombed all over the world by terrorists too. And then they bombed the recent funeral too.

It's vicious circle as you say. Whether from a suicide bomber or from a plane, people want reprisals.

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By *tephanjMan over a year ago

Kettering

None of this has anything to do with politics. Its just a bunch of losers hiding behind a religion that doesn't even want them. If there were no religions they would still find an excuse to kill people. They are just evil bastards

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By *iddyandherCouple over a year ago

Benidorm

if its politics you don't want to get into why mention it.but when you say look who in power I think you for got to mention the last labour leader we had!oh yes TONY (PUPPET) BLAIR! !!!!,and what he left us with ,he and the BUSH institution is what started all this by going into other county's business and removing tyrants that yes did a lot of killing there own people,but they also policed this kind of activities! so when you take a shot at our own present government think about how much they have to sort out the last occupying government shit first.it's so easy to blame the now but least we forget how we got into the mess in the first place. remember we are a island to bring this trouble here you have to be invited first ,and labour sent out most of the of invertations. this is not home grown ! this is middle east grown !now here.big thankyou to Tony (fucking)Blair and Co. !!!! .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Let's wait to hear who openly admit to being the "group / party" behind this attack in London.....

I have an open mind but won't be surprised if it is a religious background.

If it is then it's time to rid this country of allowing the cowards that hide and are being shielded by a supposedly peaceful religion out of OUR society.

Yet if a reprisal was brought against the religious group who DO shield these cowards who kill innocent law abiding people happen.....dont let them claim innocence......if they shield a terrorist they should expect the consequences, if they firmly believe their religion is a peaceful one then show it by announcing who the terrorists are who live among them.

They will NEVER make me live in fear.

Stand firm and NEVER give in to terrorism.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Sad sad days we live in and innocent people getting hurt and killed for what purpose?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If only it were that simple. I fear that would simply be used as a recruitment tool as to how the 'west' treats all Muslims.

A decent worldwide level of education would be a help to combating terrorism and few other things, but there's a lot of pressure on reducing foreign aid these days. And like benefit fraud, a few percent of dodgy foreign aid recipients are easy targets to highlight how foreign aid should be stopped.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"if its politics you don't want to get into why mention it.but when you say look who in power I think you for got to mention the last labour leader we had!oh yes TONY (PUPPET) BLAIR! !!!!,and what he left us with ,he and the BUSH institution is what started all this by going into other county's business and removing tyrants that yes did a lot of killing there own people,but they also policed this kind of activities! so when you take a shot at our own present government think about how much they have to sort out the last occupying government shit first.it's so easy to blame the now but least we forget how we got into the mess in the first place. remember we are a island to bring this trouble here you have to be invited first ,and labour sent out most of the of invertations. this is not home grown ! this is middle east grown !now here.big thankyou to Tony (fucking)Blair and Co. !!!! ."

I believe The first officially recognised terrorist was british and protesting the British government.

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By *igSuki81Man over a year ago

Retirement Village

Yes this is a good idea and surely will make everything ok

I said at the start how this thread would get interesting and seeing some posts where 2 and 2 have been added to get 5 is quite worrying

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By *lay 4 uMan over a year ago

bolton

Might well make them to think twice because every new recruit would get the same left in limbo for all time

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yes this is a good idea and surely will make everything ok

I said at the start how this thread would get interesting and seeing some posts where 2 and 2 have been added to get 5 is quite worrying

Well rather than just sitting back and dropping in with snide comments from time to time why don't you set people straight and point out the error in their calculations.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Too much point scoring going on. I am amazed everyone isn't united in condemnation of this barbaric act.

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By *iddyandherCouple over a year ago

Benidorm

well said.

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By *iddyandherCouple over a year ago

Benidorm

as another post said.if we are to live as one why don't the peacefull religions"" turn there own suspects in to the security forces.it's because they are not part of any out side communitys.am sure there are lots of people on this site who are from such religious faiths who we need to hear there options.and what there elders are doing doing .

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By *iddyandherCouple over a year ago

Benidorm

just to add .if it was any of my family, including sons are daughters I'd would tell the police.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan over a year ago

salisbury

Yes this is a good idea and surely will make everything ok

I said at the start how this thread would get interesting and seeing some posts where 2 and 2 have been added to get 5 is quite worrying

Well rather than just sitting back and dropping in with snide comments from time to time why don't you set people straight and point out the error in their calculations.

He can't.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

It was Gordon Brown..

and whilst not a fan of Blair or his war or immigration policy, most if not all of the people who came here then came from Eastern Europe..

if you want to look at the issue objectively without bias then you need to go back a lot further..

before arming the Muhajiaedeen or whatever they were called in Afghanistan against the Russians..

before Suez even..

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan over a year ago

salisbury

It was Gordon Brown..

and whilst not a fan of Blair or his war or immigration policy, most if not all of the people who came here then came from Eastern Europe..

if you want to look at the issue objectively without bias then you need to go back a lot further..

before arming the Muhajiaedeen or whatever they were called in Afghanistan against the Russians..

before Suez even..

Yeah those fuckers can really hold a grudge! They really need to get out more.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Let's wait to hear who openly admit to being the "group / party" behind this attack in London.....

I have an open mind but won't be surprised if it is a religious background.

If it is then it's time to rid this country of allowing the cowards that hide and are being shielded by a supposedly peaceful religion out of OUR society.

They will NEVER make me live in fear.

Stand firm and NEVER give in to terrorism. "

The only people shielding Islamic extremists are Islamic extremists

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

It was Gordon Brown..

and whilst not a fan of Blair or his war or immigration policy, most if not all of the people who came here then came from Eastern Europe..

if you want to look at the issue objectively without bias then you need to go back a lot further..

before arming the Muhajiaedeen or whatever they were called in Afghanistan against the Russians..

before Suez even..

Yeah those fuckers can really hold a grudge! They really need to get out more."

agreed..

we missed a trick in not giving them free telly's to watch soap opera's and reality tv shows..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Let's wait to hear who openly admit to being the "group / party" behind this attack in London.....

I have an open mind but won't be surprised if it is a religious background.

If it is then it's time to rid this country of allowing the cowards that hide and are being shielded by a supposedly peaceful religion out of OUR society.

They will NEVER make me live in fear.

Stand firm and NEVER give in to terrorism.

The only people shielding Islamic extremists are Islamic extremists "

2 in 3 muslims would not report extremist views in their family or friend circle. #TheTIMES

thats the real issue in my opinion

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think they (terrorists) wanted to do something yesterday down here in Cardiff but the security was just insane.

lol glorious oxymoron.

I'd say given the Insanity of terrorists, the high security was perfectly sane and necessary....

Yeah well down here we say insane to descripe something epic or immense or awesome.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan over a year ago

salisbury

It was Gordon Brown..

and whilst not a fan of Blair or his war or immigration policy, most if not all of the people who came here then came from Eastern Europe..

if you want to look at the issue objectively without bias then you need to go back a lot further..

before arming the Muhajiaedeen or whatever they were called in Afghanistan against the Russians..

before Suez even..

Yeah those fuckers can really hold a grudge! They really need to get out more.

agreed..

we missed a trick in not giving them free telly's to watch soap opera's and reality tv shows.."

I think it's their dependents on just reading one book all the time. It's like guys who watch too much porn then start believing that that is what real sex is like.

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By *awty40_xxWoman over a year ago

north lanarkshire

"I think people forget how scary it was in the 80's and 90's with the IRA. Today it's just highlighted more by the media.

The IRA wanted a free Ireland. These losers want you, your family and your friends, dead.

^ Stop trying to make excuses or make them sound less pig like. The IRA just like Isis were cowardly cold blooded killers! "

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Let's wait to hear who openly admit to being the "group / party" behind this attack in London.....

I have an open mind but won't be surprised if it is a religious background.

If it is then it's time to rid this country of allowing the cowards that hide and are being shielded by a supposedly peaceful religion out of OUR society.

They will NEVER make me live in fear.

Stand firm and NEVER give in to terrorism.

The only people shielding Islamic extremists are Islamic extremists

2 in 3 muslims would not report extremist views in their family or friend circle. #TheTIMES

thats the real issue in my opinion"

Freddie Starr ate my hamster..

the Sun..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"as another post said.if we are to live as one why don't the peacefull religions"" turn there own suspects in to the security forces.it's because they are not part of any out side communitys.am sure there are lots of people on this site who are from such religious faiths who we need to hear there options.and what there elders are doing doing ."

You mean like the many muslims that reported the Manchester bomber to authorities because they believed he had been radicalised and were concerned about him. Almost every one of these fuckers are known to the police.

They must have thousands of people known to them but have to try and decide who is the biggest risk. Can't predict which one of them is going to do something.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

It was Gordon Brown..

and whilst not a fan of Blair or his war or immigration policy, most if not all of the people who came here then came from Eastern Europe..

if you want to look at the issue objectively without bias then you need to go back a lot further..

before arming the Muhajiaedeen or whatever they were called in Afghanistan against the Russians..

before Suez even..

Yeah those fuckers can really hold a grudge! They really need to get out more.

agreed..

we missed a trick in not giving them free telly's to watch soap opera's and reality tv shows..

I think it's their dependents on just reading one book all the time. It's like guys who watch too much porn then start believing that that is what real sex is like. "

i blame the shutting down of the libraries..

bit of Dickens and Bronte is good for the soul..

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By *thwalescplCouple over a year ago

brecon

From the response and bravery shown by the first police on the scene, there is now a strong case for all Police Officers to be armed.

The first Police Officer on the scene was UNARMED, and attempted to tackle all three terrorists... if he'd been armed the situation would have been dealt with even quicker.

The time for kid gloves has passed.

Too many of these attacks are carried out by people who are on the Security Services radar, they should be tagged, placed under curfew, or interned.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Let's wait to hear who openly admit to being the "group / party" behind this attack in London.....

I have an open mind but won't be surprised if it is a religious background.

If it is then it's time to rid this country of allowing the cowards that hide and are being shielded by a supposedly peaceful religion out of OUR society.

They will NEVER make me live in fear.

Stand firm and NEVER give in to terrorism.

The only people shielding Islamic extremists are Islamic extremists "

Whilst I understand your point of view , I never mentioned any religious group in my initial post,

I said I'm open minded and to let's wait and hear who admits responsibility to this act of terrorism,

However , it has been proven in the past that terrorists have "lived among us" so it's hard to argue against the fact that " somebody knows something " about who commits these cowardly acts of terror to innocent people.

People shielding terrorists are as bad as the person committing the act of terror.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

My heart goes out to all the families who lost loved ones and RIP to those directly effected by this horrible and barbaric act may the ones behind it and the ones who caused never find any peace in this life or the next.

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By *eavenscentitCouple over a year ago

barnstaple

"The real victims in all of this will be the Muslim communities the length and breadth of the UK who will now be living in constant fear for the inevitable backlash

Anyone of us who want to live in peace is effected.

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By *iddyandherCouple over a year ago

Benidorm

well all I can say is lock them all up till you find out who they are.are fucking deport the lot back to there grandparents place of birth.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

My deepest sympathy to those who got hurt or killed in London but I think the people who want to live a normal life with being afraid are going to say a enough is enough and take matter into there on hands as the government is not doing their job right. It’s already happening in USA.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"well all I can say is lock them all up till you find out who they are.are fucking deport the lot back to there grandparents place of birth."
i agree

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By *iddyandherCouple over a year ago

Benidorm

yes that's right.but they have to have a programme of going about how they are these ingredients for they potential attack.again I would know if my child or children had a change of habit.there blind until it lands on there door step.upon there freinds reporting the Manchester bomber,did they ?as this was not comfirmed by the police.so was this a case of distancing them selves from any repriciles.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"well all I can say is lock them all up till you find out who they are.are fucking deport the lot back to there grandparents place of birth."

Lock up those found guilty of an offence. Sweeping generalisations borne from fear that condemn an entire group, no. That's scaremongering.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"well all I can say is lock them all up till you find out who they are.are fucking deport the lot back to there grandparents place of birth."

yes am sure that will fix it..... Not!

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By *eedsandyMan over a year ago

Leeds

And they don't seem to do anything to stop them either. THAT IS THE PROBLEM.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"And they don't seem to do anything to stop them either. THAT IS THE PROBLEM."

Who don't?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Let's wait to hear who openly admit to being the "group / party" behind this attack in London.....

I have an open mind but won't be surprised if it is a religious background.

If it is then it's time to rid this country of allowing the cowards that hide and are being shielded by a supposedly peaceful religion out of OUR society.

They will NEVER make me live in fear.

Stand firm and NEVER give in to terrorism.

The only people shielding Islamic extremists are Islamic extremists

Whilst I understand your point of view , I never mentioned any religious group in my initial post,

I said I'm open minded and to let's wait and hear who admits responsibility to this act of terrorism,

People shielding terrorists are as bad as the person committing the act of terror. "

Yes exactly. It gets us nowhere to point out that the majority of muslims are good people. I'm sure they are.

But the plain, hard facts of the matter are that these extremists come from the muslim community. In the same way that the IRA came from the Irish community. The communities from where they come must be encouraged to take responsibility and actively root out the terrorists.

That won't happen if we brand all muslims as terrorists. But nor will it happen if we tread lightly for fear of offending minorities or religious sensitivities.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"well all I can say is lock them all up till you find out who they are.are fucking deport the lot back to there grandparents place of birth."

Idiot. The prison service is on its knees, it can't handle the prisoners it has now. Where will we put all these new people? How will it be funded?

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By *angzMan over a year ago

Manchester, London & sometimes Newcastle

The only people shielding Islamic extremists are Islamic extremists "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And they don't seem to do anything to stop them either. THAT IS THE PROBLEM."

Precisely .....

I'm sure the extremists are in the minority within their religious groups so why don't the decent people / So called leaders within their religious groups do something about the bad ones amongst them who are creating their faith to be seen in a bad way by others ? ( whether it be misinformed or from media focus of that religious group ) .

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By *eedsandyMan over a year ago

Leeds

But it is not just extremists is it? Every time there is an attack, the mosque that the attacker worshipped in is revealed and there always seems to be some link to extremism with that mosque.

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By *loswingersCouple over a year ago

Gloucester

For as long as they believe they will end up in some nirvana like heaven surrounded by willing virgins when they die after killing innocent people , we will have this problem .

Is it actually a fact that there is anything in the Muslim faith that says this is the case ?

If there is , we are fucked .....

If there isn't , or if it's been misinterpreted, then the teachings must be rectified . Teach the Muslim kids that far from being blessed for killing , you'll be punished .

It's the only way to stop it .

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"But it is not just extremists is it? Every time there is an attack, the mosque that the attacker worshipped in is revealed and there always seems to be some link to extremism with that mosque."

Is the link the attacker? I have to say I don't recall reading anything like this about the mosque that the Manchester bomber was affiliated to. Perhaps you could provide some links?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"And they don't seem to do anything to stop them either. THAT IS THE PROBLEM."

Peter Sutcliffe lived in Yorkshire..

Fred West lived in Gloucester..

Harold Shipman..

etc etc..

see the flaw in your premise..?

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By *eedsandyMan over a year ago

Leeds

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40079948

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/26/question-time-audience-member-claims-given-anti-west-leaflet/

Try those for a start

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40079948

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/26/question-time-audience-member-claims-given-anti-west-leaflet/

Try those for a start"

The BBC link simply says they need to learn. They have previously reported 3 potential radicals there is nothing in that article that suggests the bomber was definitely radicalised via the mosque or that the mosque was implicated in the bombing in any way other than the guy worshipped there.

The second actor has already been called into question by several other sources. I could print off a flyer saying you tried to radicalise me and wave it on question time. It would be no more proof than what that guy did. Did he report it to the police or sit on if to get his 15 mins of fame?

I see nothing in those articles that support your argument.

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By *eedsandyMan over a year ago

Leeds

Another apologist. Typical.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

We only ever see one side of the coin and fail to understand there is in fact three sides to any story. Terrorism breeds terrorism.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Another apology from me owed. Typical."

FTFY

That's alright. You've educated yourself now.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"Another apologist. Typical."

LOL just because I don't agree with you I'm an apologist? Just because I ask to see facts and not propaganda I'm an apologist? Just because you can't argue your case I'm am apologist?

Calling me an apologist might make you feel better about your prejudiced, ignorant standpoint but it just makes me laugh.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"Another apology from me owed. Typical.

FTFY

That's alright. You've educated yourself now.

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By *eedsandyMan over a year ago

Leeds

You won't be laughing so much when you or your family are attacked.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You won't be laughing so much when you or your family are attacked."

No, but that's because it's an unrelated situation to her laughing at you. So a moot (and daft) point.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

[Removed by poster at 04/06/17 14:19:04]

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

This may be a stupid question, but what are their demands? All terrorists demand something

Or are these just some sad losers who are rejected by society and have nothing better to do with their lives than to murder innocent people?

- Mrs. J -

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"[Uncontrollable laughter by poster at 04/06/17 14:19:04]"

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By *eedsandyMan over a year ago

Leeds

No, she is a typical left-wing, liberal apologists, who thinks these attacks which are always perpetrated by Muslims have nothing to do with Islam, Mosques, the Muslim community and Imams.

They are always blameless as far as she is concerned.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Its just sad that after all these attacks muslim people need to be paraded on tv denouncing these fanatics and the so called experts tell us what must be done to keep us safe and then the antiwar people then try and say this is all because we invaded so and so but at the end of the day it's not about religion it's about fear and power

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"You won't be laughing so much when you or your family are attacked."

I'm not laughing about the attacks I'm laughing at your childish attempt of an argument. I asked for facts and you gave me none then when I called you out on it you and you had no comeback you called me an apologist.

But thanks for bringing my family into it. Nice of ypu

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No, she is a typical left-wing, liberal apologists, who thinks these attacks which are always perpetrated by Muslims have nothing to do with Islam, Mosques, the Muslim community and Imams.

They are always blameless as far as she is concerned."

No. You are wrong, putting words in people's mouths, making generalisations and demonstrating rather a lack of intelligence, perhaps you're just a bit emotional and not thinking your posts through. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

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By *sianMancMan over a year ago

Manchester

"No, she is a typical left-wing, liberal apologists, who thinks these attacks which are always perpetrated by Muslims have nothing to do with Islam, Mosques, the Muslim community and Imams.

They are always blameless as far as she is concerned.

Well said and I'll give another benefit of doubt here too

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Good.

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By *eedsandyMan over a year ago

Leeds

I'm not emotional at all. I wasn't involved in any of these Muslim attacks. I don't know anyone that was either.

She is just a typical apologist. Heard all the Imams come out and condemn these attack? Every single one in the UK? Many? Any?

That person on BBC QT was lying then? No such leaflet?

Imagine getting such a hate leaflet in a Church in and no one reporting anything?

And what about the Imam at Abedi's mosque. He admitted how Abedi reacted to some of his speeches on tolerance. Yet he did nothing.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Thed Koran teaches love and tolerance just like the Bible so to claim your a good Muslim or christian and kill people I'm the name of Mohammed or god makes u a hypocrite and not a true believer in your faith,so that just makes you a power seeker

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Time to just arrest anyone they have suspicion on. Take up down now.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm not emotional at all. I wasn't involved in any of these Muslim attacks. I don't know anyone that was either.

She is just a typical apologist. Heard all the Imams come out and condemn these attack? Every single one in the UK? Many? Any?

That person on BBC QT was lying then? No such leaflet?

Imagine getting such a hate leaflet in a Church in and no one reporting anything?

And what about the Imam at Abedi's mosque. He admitted how Abedi reacted to some of his speeches on tolerance. Yet he did nothing.

Oh dear. Just daft then. Fair do.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

They say it could also be linked to the election, as they are against our democratic process.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Time to just arrest anyone they have suspicion on. Take up down now. "
trouble with that is for every so called radical u arrest there are more that slip through the net

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Unfortunately these attacks have been going on for centuries, look at the crusaders,

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By *orwegian BlueMan over a year ago

Iceland, but Aldi is closer..

"This may be a stupid question, but what are their demands? All terrorists demand something

Or are these just some sad losers who are rejected by society and have nothing better to do with their lives than to murder innocent people?

- Mrs. J -"

How close you are to the truth..

If they didn't have this as a cause to fight, they would be football hooligans, in a gang fighting another gang over a postcode or out mugging old ladies..

They are nothing but thugs that now have a reason to use extreme violence against people.

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By *eedsandyMan over a year ago

Leeds

That's why Guantanamo Bay was created and why it still exists. Perhaps Trump might let us round all the 3000 extremisists that ACC Rowley identified and put them there.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Some people don't know when they are getting hammered

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"I'm not emotional at all. I wasn't involved in any of these Muslim attacks. I don't know anyone that was either.

She is just a typical apologist. Heard all the Imams come out and condemn these attack? Every single one in the UK? Many? Any?

That person on BBC QT was lying then? No such leaflet?

Imagine getting such a hate leaflet in a Church in and no one reporting anything?

And what about the Imam at Abedi's mosque. He admitted how Abedi reacted to some of his speeches on tolerance. Yet he did nothing.

Even though the article you provided states they reported at least 3 people?

How do you know they did nothing he was known to the authorities so someone reported him.

One person with a bit of paper o tv is not enough evidence now is it? Even you have to admit that. Why did he hang on to it and not report it to the police like a good upstairs ding citizen?

The Muslim council have condemned every attack in separate statements after each one but I guess that isn't good enough for you.

Of course I'm not saying that all Muslims are good people. Of course there are bad elements but must b like all Christians cannkt be called kkk members, not all Catholic priests can be called paedophiles, not all Muslims can be called terrorists.

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By *eedsandyMan over a year ago

Leeds

You mean like the Labour Party?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By *eedsandyMan over a year ago

Leeds

So name a stable, moderate Muslim country then! Still not seeing the connection?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"[Laughter by poster at 04/06/17 14:36:29]"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Some people don't know when they are getting hammered

Nor how to reply/quote!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You mean like the Labour Party?"

Far from it....but you are

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So name a stable, moderate Muslim country then! Still not seeing the connection?"

Oh wee LeedsAndy! It's okay, come and have a hug.

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By *eedsandyMan over a year ago

Leeds

You can't can you?

And this is being revealed too

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/west-yorkshire-town-centre-child-10548639

But do keep defending them!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I was very impressed by the police response time and how quickly they handled the situation. The stories from people within the vicinity trying to challenge the attackers and keep others safe give me a lot of hope.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You can't can you?

And this is being revealed too

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/west-yorkshire-town-centre-child-10548639

But do keep defending them!

You don't seem to grasp the fact no one here is defending the extremists. Nor grasp the tenuous nature of your points. That's got to be frustrating for you.

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By *eedsandyMan over a year ago

Leeds

My point is this for the last time

THE MUSLIM COMMUNITY, IT'S MOSQUES, MEMBERS, IMAMS ARE DOING NOTHING TO STOP ALL THIS, OR EXPOSE IT.

THAT IS MY POINT.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"You can't can you?

And this is being revealed too

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/west-yorkshire-town-centre-child-10548639

But do keep defending them!

So are we defending men or Asians in relation to this story as it doesn't mention any of their religions? Just checking.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"My point is this for the last time

THE MUSLIM COMMUNITY, IT'S MOSQUES, MEMBERS, IMAMS ARE DOING NOTHING TO STOP ALL THIS, OR EXPOSE IT.

THAT IS MY POINT."

No need to shout. We're aware of the point you're making, however unsubstantiated and daft. Calm down wee LeedsAndy

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So we all agree, a horrific incident and thoughts are with those affected.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"No, she is a typical left-wing, liberal apologists, who thinks these attacks which are always perpetrated by Muslims have nothing to do with Islam, Mosques, the Muslim community and Imams.

They are always blameless as far as she is concerned.

pretty much agree..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I was very impressed by the police response time and how quickly they handled the situation. The stories from people within the vicinity trying to challenge the attackers and keep others safe give me a lot of hope. "
one of the kids I teach karate dad's a gun cop and since these attacks has been patrolling 12 hrs a a day in all weathers in full gear and waiting to see if he will be despatched to one of these attacks and you got to feel for his wife and kids not knowing if he's in the middle of it ,so u got to hand it our boys in blue

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By *mcouple1Couple over a year ago

nr warrington

"Another apologist. Typical."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Another apologist. Typical.

Another dafty. Ah well.

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