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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Yet again i have read a harrowing story (the sun) of a pet terrier hacked to death by a man with a samurai sword. This discusting evil man severed the dog's spine chopped off a back leg, and the stomach torn open. Vets had to put the poor dog to sleep. The family who owned the dog were distraught.police arrested and bailed a 29 year old man. I say jail him for at least ten years or more. He doesn't deserve to roam free.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yet again i have read a harrowing story (the sun) of a pet terrier hacked to death by a man with a samurai sword. This discusting evil man severed the dog's spine chopped off a back leg, and the stomach torn open. Vets had to put the poor dog to sleep. The family who owned the dog were distraught.police arrested and bailed a 29 year old man. I say jail him for at least ten years or more. He doesn't deserve to roam free.

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I agree there should be stiff sentenceso for this.....there has been a spate of this happening close to me

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yes the evil nasty bastards.

Hate cruelty to animals of any sort.

Bigger sentences definately.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Like for like you ask me!

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex

Any inhumane behaviour needs addressing. If mental health issues are the cause they need treating and if the people are just plain nasty that needs sorting too.

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By *eus n EuropaCouple  over a year ago

louth


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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Should go to jail.

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By *airymagicWoman  over a year ago

goblin city

Jail with animal lovers

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Significant jail time.

I wouldn't be too bothered about any mental health issues either.

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By *ink Panther.Woman  over a year ago

Preston

Animal cruelty in any form is the most cowardly act by a human being! I agree they deserve jail time, however currently there are ppl getting non custodial sentences due to overcrowding for more serious crimes. What crimes do you think there should be an alternative punishment for and what would you suggest it is?

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

Throw the book at them. Can't bear animal cruelty, their defenselessness makes it all the worse.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If they would do it to an animal, they would do it to a person. The punishment should be the same as if they had done it to a child.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yet again i have read a harrowing story (the sun) of a pet terrier hacked to death by a man with a samurai sword. This discusting evil man severed the dog's spine chopped off a back leg, and the stomach torn open. Vets had to put the poor dog to sleep. The family who owned the dog were distraught.police arrested and bailed a 29 year old man. I say jail him for at least ten years or more. He doesn't deserve to roam free.

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He clearly has mental issues

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" The punishment should be the same as if they had done it to a child."

No....no it shouldn't. A child has a chance to grow up and be a valuable member of society whereas a dog will always just be a dog. A jail sentence or a hefty period of community service is fitting though

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By *haneleviMan  over a year ago

Kidderminster

Just literally watched a Facebook video of a block posing and waiting while his friend records, then runs and kicks a cat they've baited with food and kicked it off a ledge.

Luckily someone's found his FB and made a link of video and profile. Discussing though. So proud of himself

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'd do the same to him. It makes me so sad

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Minimum 10 years hard labour cleaning out the shit at Battersea Dogs Home.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" The punishment should be the same as if they had done it to a child.

No....no it shouldn't. A child has a chance to grow up and be a valuable member of society whereas a dog will always just be a dog. A jail sentence or a hefty period of community service is fitting though "

It's not about how "valuable" the victim is, it's about the mentality of the attacker

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If you can cause harm to an animal whats to stop your mind thinking its ok to do the same to a human?

How many mass murderers have abuse animals as children then progressed?

How people can think its ok and should be community service is beyond me. The animal is a living thing try doing it to a lion or a bear and see where it gets you just because a cat or dog vant protect itself as much does not mean it needs to be subjected to cruelty any more or any less

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Just shoot the b*astards that's the cheapest option

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just shoot the b*astards that's the cheapest option"

One option i heard from a lecturer at uni was to get around the animal testing difficulties. If someone has forfeited somoebody elses human rights ie murder,rape,etc where it is clear cut and no doubt then they should test the chemicals on them instead

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" The punishment should be the same as if they had done it to a child.

No....no it shouldn't. A child has a chance to grow up and be a valuable member of society whereas a dog will always just be a dog. A jail sentence or a hefty period of community service is fitting though

It's not about how "valuable" the victim is, it's about the mentality of the attacker"

And how you treat those weaker than you is a good indicator of character.

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By *orum TrollWoman  over a year ago

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"Any inhumane behaviour needs addressing. If mental health issues are the cause they need treating and if the people are just plain nasty that needs sorting too."

Most of the mental health problems that would cause a person to attack the vulnerable are deemed not curable at this time.

Yes there should be stiffer sentences for all types of non-consensual abuse.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" The punishment should be the same as if they had done it to a child.

No....no it shouldn't. A child has a chance to grow up and be a valuable member of society whereas a dog will always just be a dog. A jail sentence or a hefty period of community service is fitting though "

What kind of attitude is "a dog will always be just a dog"?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" The punishment should be the same as if they had done it to a child.

No....no it shouldn't. A child has a chance to grow up and be a valuable member of society whereas a dog will always just be a dog. A jail sentence or a hefty period of community service is fitting though

What kind of attitude is "a dog will always be just a dog"? "

Totally agree......try telling that to the poor dogs owners!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" The punishment should be the same as if they had done it to a child.

No....no it shouldn't. A child has a chance to grow up and be a valuable member of society whereas a dog will always just be a dog. A jail sentence or a hefty period of community service is fitting though

What kind of attitude is "a dog will always be just a dog"? "

Someone who obviously thinks animals are less of an importance as people

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By *orum TrollWoman  over a year ago

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" The punishment should be the same as if they had done it to a child.

No....no it shouldn't. A child has a chance to grow up and be a valuable member of society whereas a dog will always just be a dog. A jail sentence or a hefty period of community service is fitting though

What kind of attitude is "a dog will always be just a dog"? "

one that society teaches us.

homeless people and the jobless aren't very valuable either, or lazy. anyone not creating profits is useless. animals are dumb and it's ok to eat them. etc.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Question.

Does horseracing and greyhound racing fall into this too?

I work in the industry and get terrible grief off 'animal lover's for this

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By *orwegian BlueMan  over a year ago

Iceland, but Aldi is closer..


" The punishment should be the same as if they had done it to a child.

No....no it shouldn't. A child has a chance to grow up and be a valuable member of society whereas a dog will always just be a dog. A jail sentence or a hefty period of community service is fitting though

It's not about how "valuable" the victim is, it's about the mentality of the attacker"

Who's to say next time the sick Bastard won't do the same to a child?

Definitely he needs help if its a mental issue and if he is just a sick Bastard then a custodial sentence would definitely make him think twice about it..

Alternatively string him up by the bollox and let the public beat him with a birch branch.. Pound a go for an animal charity..

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury

Trouble is the bible says you can do what you like to them. So if you base your laws on that then you're on a sticky wicket straight away.

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By *irestorm 500Couple  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Trouble is the bible says you can do what you like to them. So if you base your laws on that then you're on a sticky wicket straight away. "

Hardly anyone uses church's anymore....but the bible always comes in handy as a qoute

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By *orum TrollWoman  over a year ago

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"Trouble is the bible says you can do what you like to them. So if you base your laws on that then you're on a sticky wicket straight away. "

it's deeper than that.

a lot of people just believe animals are not sentient because they are taught that and don't interact with them, or if they do interact they aren't very observant. and it's kind of based on if you lead a simple life then you are stupid or if you don't understand something then it's stupid and not yourself that's stupid.

as well as everything must make profits or it's useless.

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By *ackDMissMorganCouple  over a year ago

Halifax


" The punishment should be the same as if they had done it to a child.

No....no it shouldn't. A child has a chance to grow up and be a valuable member of society whereas a dog will always just be a dog. A jail sentence or a hefty period of community service is fitting though

What kind of attitude is "a dog will always be just a dog"?

Someone who obviously thinks animals are less of an importance as people "

Thats part of whats wrong with society in my opinion,all lives matter

Miss

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


" The punishment should be the same as if they had done it to a child.

No....no it shouldn't. A child has a chance to grow up and be a valuable member of society whereas a dog will always just be a dog. A jail sentence or a hefty period of community service is fitting though

What kind of attitude is "a dog will always be just a dog"?

Someone who obviously thinks animals are less of an importance as people "

I think most people think that.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" The punishment should be the same as if they had done it to a child.

No....no it shouldn't. A child has a chance to grow up and be a valuable member of society whereas a dog will always just be a dog. A jail sentence or a hefty period of community service is fitting though

What kind of attitude is "a dog will always be just a dog"? "

It's not any kind of attitude, it's a fact.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" The punishment should be the same as if they had done it to a child.

No....no it shouldn't. A child has a chance to grow up and be a valuable member of society whereas a dog will always just be a dog. A jail sentence or a hefty period of community service is fitting though

What kind of attitude is "a dog will always be just a dog"?

It's not any kind of attitude, it's a fact."

Try saying that to the rspca when they take someone to court for animal cruelty.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


" The punishment should be the same as if they had done it to a child.

No....no it shouldn't. A child has a chance to grow up and be a valuable member of society whereas a dog will always just be a dog. A jail sentence or a hefty period of community service is fitting though

What kind of attitude is "a dog will always be just a dog"?

It's not any kind of attitude, it's a fact.

Try saying that to the rspca when they take someone to court for animal cruelty."

The rspca are aware that dogs remain dogs throughout their life span.

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By *nequeenslutWoman  over a year ago

rugeley

a long drop on a short peace of rope its a cheep and very effective punishment

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By *aren1956TV/TS  over a year ago

Fakenham


"Yet again i have read a harrowing story (the sun) of a pet terrier hacked to death by a man with a samurai sword. This discusting evil man severed the dog's spine chopped off a back leg, and the stomach torn open. Vets had to put the poor dog to sleep. The family who owned the dog were distraught.police arrested and bailed a 29 year old man. I say jail him for at least ten years or more. He doesn't deserve to roam free.

"

Do to him what he did to the poor dog......

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By *yrdwomanWoman  over a year ago

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" The punishment should be the same as if they had done it to a child.

No....no it shouldn't. A child has a chance to grow up and be a valuable member of society whereas a dog will always just be a dog. A jail sentence or a hefty period of community service is fitting though

What kind of attitude is "a dog will always be just a dog"?

Someone who obviously thinks animals are less of an importance as people "

Pets are important, but I am afraid the cutest kitten will never be as important to me as my daughter, and most animals only contribute to society emotionally.

It says a lot about this country when the RSPCA has royal patronage, yet the NSPCC does not. People do tend to think that animals are more important than people, maybe because they rely so much on us. But they're not.

Having said that, anyone mad/cruel/angry enough to abuse an animal is more than likely to have either abused people, or go on to abuse people at some point.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" The punishment should be the same as if they had done it to a child.

No....no it shouldn't. A child has a chance to grow up and be a valuable member of society whereas a dog will always just be a dog. A jail sentence or a hefty period of community service is fitting though

What kind of attitude is "a dog will always be just a dog"?

It's not any kind of attitude, it's a fact.

Try saying that to the rspca when they take someone to court for animal cruelty.

The rspca are aware that dogs remain dogs throughout their life span. "

It's what you left out that matters (just a dog) which infers you can treat a dog any way you like.....as I said try it and take the consequences from the rspca if you think it's OK.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


" The punishment should be the same as if they had done it to a child.

No....no it shouldn't. A child has a chance to grow up and be a valuable member of society whereas a dog will always just be a dog. A jail sentence or a hefty period of community service is fitting though

What kind of attitude is "a dog will always be just a dog"?

It's not any kind of attitude, it's a fact.

Try saying that to the rspca when they take someone to court for animal cruelty.

The rspca are aware that dogs remain dogs throughout their life span.

It's what you left out that matters (just a dog) which infers you can treat a dog any way you like.....as I said try it and take the consequences from the rspca if you think it's OK. "

Oh, i thought he ment dogs are just dogs.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" The punishment should be the same as if they had done it to a child.

No....no it shouldn't. A child has a chance to grow up and be a valuable member of society whereas a dog will always just be a dog. A jail sentence or a hefty period of community service is fitting though

What kind of attitude is "a dog will always be just a dog"?

It's not any kind of attitude, it's a fact.

Try saying that to the rspca when they take someone to court for animal cruelty.

The rspca are aware that dogs remain dogs throughout their life span.

It's what you left out that matters (just a dog) which infers you can treat a dog any way you like.....as I said try it and take the consequences from the rspca if you think it's OK. "

I never left out anything, I said exactly what I wanted to say. If you wish to read more into my words then be my guest but please don't tell me what I'm trying to say

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" The punishment should be the same as if they had done it to a child.

No....no it shouldn't. A child has a chance to grow up and be a valuable member of society whereas a dog will always just be a dog. A jail sentence or a hefty period of community service is fitting though

What kind of attitude is "a dog will always be just a dog"?

It's not any kind of attitude, it's a fact.

Try saying that to the rspca when they take someone to court for animal cruelty.

The rspca are aware that dogs remain dogs throughout their life span.

It's what you left out that matters (just a dog) which infers you can treat a dog any way you like.....as I said try it and take the consequences from the rspca if you think it's OK.

Oh, i thought he ment dogs are just dogs. "

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


" The punishment should be the same as if they had done it to a child.

No....no it shouldn't. A child has a chance to grow up and be a valuable member of society whereas a dog will always just be a dog. A jail sentence or a hefty period of community service is fitting though

What kind of attitude is "a dog will always be just a dog"?

Someone who obviously thinks animals are less of an importance as people

Pets are important, but I am afraid the cutest kitten will never be as important to me as my daughter, and most animals only contribute to society emotionally.

It says a lot about this country when the RSPCA has royal patronage, yet the NSPCC does not. People do tend to think that animals are more important than people, maybe because they rely so much on us. But they're not.

Having said that, anyone mad/cruel/angry enough to abuse an animal is more than likely to have either abused people, or go on to abuse people at some point."

Or been abused themselves. Probably suffering from mental illness to.

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By *yrdwomanWoman  over a year ago

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" The punishment should be the same as if they had done it to a child.

No....no it shouldn't. A child has a chance to grow up and be a valuable member of society whereas a dog will always just be a dog. A jail sentence or a hefty period of community service is fitting though

What kind of attitude is "a dog will always be just a dog"?

Someone who obviously thinks animals are less of an importance as people

Pets are important, but I am afraid the cutest kitten will never be as important to me as my daughter, and most animals only contribute to society emotionally.

It says a lot about this country when the RSPCA has royal patronage, yet the NSPCC does not. People do tend to think that animals are more important than people, maybe because they rely so much on us. But they're not.

Having said that, anyone mad/cruel/angry enough to abuse an animal is more than likely to have either abused people, or go on to abuse people at some point.

Or been abused themselves. Probably suffering from mental illness to. "

Fair point. It's not exactly a normal thing to do.

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By *orum TrollWoman  over a year ago

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" The punishment should be the same as if they had done it to a child.

No....no it shouldn't. A child has a chance to grow up and be a valuable member of society whereas a dog will always just be a dog. A jail sentence or a hefty period of community service is fitting though

What kind of attitude is "a dog will always be just a dog"?

Someone who obviously thinks animals are less of an importance as people

Pets are important, but I am afraid the cutest kitten will never be as important to me as my daughter, and most animals only contribute to society emotionally.

It says a lot about this country when the RSPCA has royal patronage, yet the NSPCC does not. People do tend to think that animals are more important than people, maybe because they rely so much on us. But they're not.

Having said that, anyone mad/cruel/angry enough to abuse an animal is more than likely to have either abused people, or go on to abuse people at some point.

Or been abused themselves. Probably suffering from mental illness to. "

I've been abused and never abuse animals. It's not a good enough excuse. Some people are just evil.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" The punishment should be the same as if they had done it to a child.

No....no it shouldn't. A child has a chance to grow up and be a valuable member of society whereas a dog will always just be a dog. A jail sentence or a hefty period of community service is fitting though

What kind of attitude is "a dog will always be just a dog"?

It's not any kind of attitude, it's a fact.

Try saying that to the rspca when they take someone to court for animal cruelty.

The rspca are aware that dogs remain dogs throughout their life span.

It's what you left out that matters (just a dog) which infers you can treat a dog any way you like.....as I said try it and take the consequences from the rspca if you think it's OK.

I never left out anything, I said exactly what I wanted to say. If you wish to read more into my words then be my guest but please don't tell me what I'm trying to say "

The qoute was taken off another poster ffs

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


" The punishment should be the same as if they had done it to a child.

No....no it shouldn't. A child has a chance to grow up and be a valuable member of society whereas a dog will always just be a dog. A jail sentence or a hefty period of community service is fitting though

What kind of attitude is "a dog will always be just a dog"?

Someone who obviously thinks animals are less of an importance as people

Pets are important, but I am afraid the cutest kitten will never be as important to me as my daughter, and most animals only contribute to society emotionally.

It says a lot about this country when the RSPCA has royal patronage, yet the NSPCC does not. People do tend to think that animals are more important than people, maybe because they rely so much on us. But they're not.

Having said that, anyone mad/cruel/angry enough to abuse an animal is more than likely to have either abused people, or go on to abuse people at some point.

Or been abused themselves. Probably suffering from mental illness to.

I've been abused and never abuse animals. It's not a good enough excuse. Some people are just evil."

If I had my way....... i'd have them all shot!

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


" The punishment should be the same as if they had done it to a child.

No....no it shouldn't. A child has a chance to grow up and be a valuable member of society whereas a dog will always just be a dog. A jail sentence or a hefty period of community service is fitting though

What kind of attitude is "a dog will always be just a dog"?

Someone who obviously thinks animals are less of an importance as people "

But they are?

I totally abhor cruelty to animals and humans but we eat one and not the other so clearly animals are less important or is it for some just the ones we have as pets?

Again I eat meat so not coming at this from a 'meat is murder' perspective but too often there's a great outpouring of anger when such things happen and then it's off to eat the flesh of an animal and some are kept in shocking conditions..

We are a fickle bunch us humans..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I lose all sense of rationality when it comes to animal cruelty. I would gladly inhumanely put down anyone who thinks it's acceptable to harm an animal in any circumstance.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

As an aside, apparently animal abuse cases increase where society is becoming more deprived, followed by a rise in child abuse.

I'd be interested if cases nowadays are on the up.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"I lose all sense of rationality when it comes to animal cruelty. I would gladly inhumanely put down anyone who thinks it's acceptable to harm an animal in any circumstance."

Bloody hell! I'm not going to tell you what certain religions do to their animals! It would be genocide!

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


" The punishment should be the same as if they had done it to a child.

No....no it shouldn't. A child has a chance to grow up and be a valuable member of society whereas a dog will always just be a dog. A jail sentence or a hefty period of community service is fitting though

What kind of attitude is "a dog will always be just a dog"?

It's not any kind of attitude, it's a fact.

Try saying that to the rspca when they take someone to court for animal cruelty.

The rspca are aware that dogs remain dogs throughout their life span.

It's what you left out that matters (just a dog) which infers you can treat a dog any way you like.....as I said try it and take the consequences from the rspca if you think it's OK. "

Kin eck talk about make stuff up..

What they said in no way gives the impression that they have the view of treating animals any way they like..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" The punishment should be the same as if they had done it to a child.

No....no it shouldn't. A child has a chance to grow up and be a valuable member of society whereas a dog will always just be a dog. A jail sentence or a hefty period of community service is fitting though

What kind of attitude is "a dog will always be just a dog"?

Someone who obviously thinks animals are less of an importance as people

But they are?

I totally abhor cruelty to animals and humans but we eat one and not the other so clearly animals are less important or is it for some just the ones we have as pets?

Again I eat meat so not coming at this from a 'meat is murder' perspective but too often there's a great outpouring of anger when such things happen and then it's off to eat the flesh of an animal and some are kept in shocking conditions..

We are a fickle bunch us humans.."

If you read the description off the op......you would see this animal was tortured....then had to be killed humanely ,like the meat you eat!

It's not about the death of a animal......it's the sheer lack of humanity in the way it dies!

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By *yrdwomanWoman  over a year ago

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" The punishment should be the same as if they had done it to a child.

No....no it shouldn't. A child has a chance to grow up and be a valuable member of society whereas a dog will always just be a dog. A jail sentence or a hefty period of community service is fitting though

What kind of attitude is "a dog will always be just a dog"?

Someone who obviously thinks animals are less of an importance as people

But they are?

I totally abhor cruelty to animals and humans but we eat one and not the other so clearly animals are less important or is it for some just the ones we have as pets?

Again I eat meat so not coming at this from a 'meat is murder' perspective but too often there's a great outpouring of anger when such things happen and then it's off to eat the flesh of an animal and some are kept in shocking conditions..

We are a fickle bunch us humans..

If you read the description off the op......you would see this animal was tortured....then had to be killed humanely ,like the meat you eat!

It's not about the death of a animal......it's the sheer lack of humanity in the way it dies!"

But nobody is saying that it wasn't awful.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


" The punishment should be the same as if they had done it to a child.

No....no it shouldn't. A child has a chance to grow up and be a valuable member of society whereas a dog will always just be a dog. A jail sentence or a hefty period of community service is fitting though

What kind of attitude is "a dog will always be just a dog"?

Someone who obviously thinks animals are less of an importance as people

But they are?

I totally abhor cruelty to animals and humans but we eat one and not the other so clearly animals are less important or is it for some just the ones we have as pets?

Again I eat meat so not coming at this from a 'meat is murder' perspective but too often there's a great outpouring of anger when such things happen and then it's off to eat the flesh of an animal and some are kept in shocking conditions..

We are a fickle bunch us humans..

If you read the description off the op......you would see this animal was tortured....then had to be killed humanely ,like the meat you eat!

It's not about the death of a animal......it's the sheer lack of humanity in the way it dies!"

I don't get it?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" The punishment should be the same as if they had done it to a child.

No....no it shouldn't. A child has a chance to grow up and be a valuable member of society whereas a dog will always just be a dog. A jail sentence or a hefty period of community service is fitting though

What kind of attitude is "a dog will always be just a dog"?

Someone who obviously thinks animals are less of an importance as people

But they are?

I totally abhor cruelty to animals and humans but we eat one and not the other so clearly animals are less important or is it for some just the ones we have as pets?

Again I eat meat so not coming at this from a 'meat is murder' perspective but too often there's a great outpouring of anger when such things happen and then it's off to eat the flesh of an animal and some are kept in shocking conditions..

We are a fickle bunch us humans..

If you read the description off the op......you would see this animal was tortured....then had to be killed humanely ,like the meat you eat!

It's not about the death of a animal......it's the sheer lack of humanity in the way it dies!

I don't get it?"

Yeah I get that!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I lose all sense of rationality when it comes to animal cruelty. I would gladly inhumanely put down anyone who thinks it's acceptable to harm an animal in any circumstance.

Bloody hell! I'm not going to tell you what certain religions do to their animals! It would be genocide! "

I was once nearly arrested for assault when a silly little cunt in a tracksuit thought it was clever to kick my dog in our local park. I don't condone violence nor do I think it clever but that lad learnt a valuable lesson that day.

I'm aware of the halal procedure and find it barbaric and also the concept of bull fighting repulses me but as a race we humans are flawed.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


" The punishment should be the same as if they had done it to a child.

No....no it shouldn't. A child has a chance to grow up and be a valuable member of society whereas a dog will always just be a dog. A jail sentence or a hefty period of community service is fitting though

What kind of attitude is "a dog will always be just a dog"?

Someone who obviously thinks animals are less of an importance as people

But they are?

I totally abhor cruelty to animals and humans but we eat one and not the other so clearly animals are less important or is it for some just the ones we have as pets?

Again I eat meat so not coming at this from a 'meat is murder' perspective but too often there's a great outpouring of anger when such things happen and then it's off to eat the flesh of an animal and some are kept in shocking conditions..

We are a fickle bunch us humans..

If you read the description off the op......you would see this animal was tortured....then had to be killed humanely ,like the meat you eat!

It's not about the death of a animal......it's the sheer lack of humanity in the way it dies!

But nobody is saying that it wasn't awful."

This..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


" The punishment should be the same as if they had done it to a child.

No....no it shouldn't. A child has a chance to grow up and be a valuable member of society whereas a dog will always just be a dog. A jail sentence or a hefty period of community service is fitting though

What kind of attitude is "a dog will always be just a dog"?

Someone who obviously thinks animals are less of an importance as people

But they are?

I totally abhor cruelty to animals and humans but we eat one and not the other so clearly animals are less important or is it for some just the ones we have as pets?

Again I eat meat so not coming at this from a 'meat is murder' perspective but too often there's a great outpouring of anger when such things happen and then it's off to eat the flesh of an animal and some are kept in shocking conditions..

We are a fickle bunch us humans..

If you read the description off the op......you would see this animal was tortured....then had to be killed humanely ,like the meat you eat!

It's not about the death of a animal......it's the sheer lack of humanity in the way it dies!"

So you salve your conscience by pretending that it's killed humanely..?

If indeed it has been because let's be honest we only know so much about where and how our meat is treated ..

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"I lose all sense of rationality when it comes to animal cruelty. I would gladly inhumanely put down anyone who thinks it's acceptable to harm an animal in any circumstance.

Bloody hell! I'm not going to tell you what certain religions do to their animals! It would be genocide!

I was once nearly arrested for assault when a silly little cunt in a tracksuit thought it was clever to kick my dog in our local park. I don't condone violence nor do I think it clever but that lad learnt a valuable lesson that day.

I'm aware of the halal procedure and find it barbaric and also the concept of bull fighting repulses me but as a race we humans are flawed."

Same for kosher.

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By *orum TrollWoman  over a year ago

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"As an aside, apparently animal abuse cases increase where society is becoming more deprived, followed by a rise in child abuse.

I'd be interested if cases nowadays are on the up.

"

Yes that's true. Child neglect and assault has gone up in recent years.

Hate crime is up also.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just shoot the b*astards that's the cheapest option"

Completely agree.

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By *orum TrollWoman  over a year ago

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"As an aside, apparently animal abuse cases increase where society is becoming more deprived, followed by a rise in child abuse.

I'd be interested if cases nowadays are on the up.

Yes that's true. Child neglect and assault has gone up in recent years.

Hate crime is up also."

Yet, despite this, funding for the services needed to tackle it have gone down.

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By *orwegian BlueMan  over a year ago

Iceland, but Aldi is closer..

What some fail to understand is that this guy undertook a ghastly act of unnecessary violence against a dog, which is someone's loved bet.

Imagine the mental anguish that person must've gone through seeing their pet needlessly hacked to pieces by a sick psychopath..

Irrelevant of whether a dog or a human, the feelings the owner of that dog felt would be equal to that of someone losing a child.. there is an emotional bond between a pet and it's owner, hence why animals have been kept as domestic pets for thousands of years.

The act was barbaric and deserves to have a fitting punishment.

Or is it just me that thinks nutcases shouldn't be walking the atreet armed with a lethal sword?

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By *orwegian BlueMan  over a year ago

Iceland, but Aldi is closer..

Pet not bet..

Bloody carrot!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" The punishment should be the same as if they had done it to a child.

No....no it shouldn't. A child has a chance to grow up and be a valuable member of society whereas a dog will always just be a dog. A jail sentence or a hefty period of community service is fitting though

What kind of attitude is "a dog will always be just a dog"?

Someone who obviously thinks animals are less of an importance as people

Pets are important, but I am afraid the cutest kitten will never be as important to me as my daughter, and most animals only contribute to society emotionally.

It says a lot about this country when the RSPCA has royal patronage, yet the NSPCC does not. People do tend to think that animals are more important than people, maybe because they rely so much on us. But they're not.

Having said that, anyone mad/cruel/angry enough to abuse an animal is more than likely to have either abused people, or go on to abuse people at some point."

Totally agree with this!

I'm a huge animal lover, but it's a bit fucked that people care more about cruelty towards animals than towards humans.

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By *hocoholicWoman  over a year ago

The big D


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Pets are important, but I am afraid the cutest kitten will never be as important to me as my daughter, and most animals only contribute to society emotionally.

It says a lot about this country when the RSPCA has royal patronage, yet the NSPCC does not. People do tend to think that animals are more important than people, maybe because they rely so much on us. But they're not.

Having said that, anyone mad/cruel/angry enough to abuse an animal is more than likely to have either abused people, or go on to abuse people at some point."

I agree, it's horrendous what ppl do to animals & their punishment (or lack of it). I know prisons are overcrowded as is so I guess fines/naming & shaming is unfortunately as much as they'll get. A criminal record should be added so that when it comes to jobs, applications in the future their evil cowardly act will be used against them plus prospective employers should be aware (especially with ppl-caring positions as I find any1 with the capability to hurt our vulnerable animals wouldn't take much to go further with vulnerable ppl)

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By *irceWoman  over a year ago

Gloucester

Maybe start with "Halal meat" producers as i personally think it is horrendous and barbaric!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


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I'm a huge animal lover, but it's a bit fucked that people care more about cruelty towards animals than towards humans. "

Why oh why does the thread get turned around by animals verse people/children?

This was about a horrendous act to a animal.....can we not just stick to that....and yes I agree that the nspcc should definitely have royal patronage too

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By *uby0000Woman  over a year ago

hertfordshire

should be jailed

i was at the rspca yesterday and staff were with a sad spaniel who were telling her she was safe now

when they took her out she was so painfully thin i nearly cried

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By *uckandbunnyCouple  over a year ago

In your bed


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I'm a huge animal lover, but it's a bit fucked that people care more about cruelty towards animals than towards humans.

Why oh why does the thread get turned around by animals verse people/children?

This was about a horrendous act to a animal.....can we not just stick to that....and yes I agree that the nspcc should definitely have royal patronage too "

I think when someone makes the comparison like was done early on in the thread it is bound to descend.

I'm assuming no one wears leather shoes if they are comparing animal killing to child killing.

Or is it just the fluffy animals that should be protected?

I always wonder at what point does animal protection stop, spider, fly, ant, single cell organism, bacteria, virus????

In terms of the OP the guy obviously has issues and should probably be locked up for the safety of all under the mental health act. If you are deranged enough to torture an animal then you have a slant in your personality that needs fixing.

But I also accept that there is a hierarchy of killing. If you don't accept that then at some point your argument unravels. If a dog is equal to a human, then all animals are equal even those tiny ones even vegetarians and Vegans kill every day.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What some fail to understand is that this guy undertook a ghastly act of unnecessary violence against a dog, which is someone's loved bet.

Imagine the mental anguish that person must've gone through seeing their pet needlessly hacked to pieces by a sick psychopath..

Irrelevant of whether a dog or a human, the feelings the owner of that dog felt would be equal to that of someone losing a child.. there is an emotional bond between a pet and it's owner, hence why animals have been kept as domestic pets for thousands of years.

The act was barbaric and deserves to have a fitting punishment.

Or is it just me that thinks nutcases shouldn't be walking the atreet armed with a lethal sword?"

This

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By *eus n EuropaCouple  over a year ago

louth


"Yet again i have read a harrowing story (the sun) of a pet terrier hacked to death by a man with a samurai sword. This discusting evil man severed the dog's spine chopped off a back leg, and the stomach torn open. Vets had to put the poor dog to sleep. The family who owned the dog were distraught.police arrested and bailed a 29 year old man. I say jail him for at least ten years or more. He doesn't deserve to roam free.

He clearly has mental issues"

Well you dont need a fecking Phd to to know that

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By *ENGUYMan  over a year ago

Hull

Whatever the crime, there are times when just jailing the culprit doesn't appear to be enough.

Those responsible have to give something back to society, to pay for their actions. If proved to be mentally fit etc, put them to work. Not inside sewing mailbags, but get them outside, clearing rubbish, cleaning graffiti off buildings, repairing potholes on roads.

Yes, it's kind of like Hard Labour but they do that day in, day out in all weathers and return inside for overnight; they get fed, checked medically and privileges have to earned. Plus no parole, serve full term.

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By *uckandbunnyCouple  over a year ago

In your bed

Not entirely sure anyone should own a sword? Nutter or not.

We are hardly expecting an invasion from carthage any time soon.

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By *uckandbunnyCouple  over a year ago

In your bed


"Whatever the crime, there are times when just jailing the culprit doesn't appear to be enough.

Those responsible have to give something back to society, to pay for their actions. If proved to be mentally fit etc, put them to work. Not inside sewing mailbags, but get them outside, clearing rubbish, cleaning graffiti off buildings, repairing potholes on roads.

Yes, it's kind of like Hard Labour but they do that day in, day out in all weathers and return inside for overnight; they get fed, checked medically and privileges have to earned. Plus no parole, serve full term."

Im not in favour of prisoners providing free labour as it effectively puts someone else out of a job. However, I'm not against pointless labour. Digging holes and filling them in again.

I also think corporal punishment and public humiliation have been put in the don't use basket when they would provide far more effective remedies for some criminal behaviour.

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