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By *ptimusD OP   Man  over a year ago

Birmingham

Is it just me or does anyone else don't understand this thing called Soft Swap.

Hey.., I'm all for "Each To Their Own", but I can't help seeing it as anything other than a cock tease.., And if I wanted anything doing with a cock tease, I'll carry on flirting with our new receptionist at work

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Is this a serious question?

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By *iewMan  over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn


"Is it just me or does anyone else don't understand this thing called Soft Swap.

Hey.., I'm all for "Each To Their Own", but I can't help seeing it as anything other than a cock tease.., And if I wanted anything doing with a cock tease, I'll carry on flirting with our new receptionist at work "

between 2 couples, why is that cock teasing...

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By *b430Man  over a year ago

Tayside

Simple answer - It's something that those that are into it find fun for them!

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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O o O oo

I don't know as we don't soft swop, in fact we don't really swop.......but could it be Voyeuristic? Horny live porn?

( I am assuming soft swop is play with your own partner only, but have seen other definitions of it so not overly sure)

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Is it just me or does anyone else don't understand this thing called Soft Swap.

Hey.., I'm all for "Each To Their Own", but I can't help seeing it as anything other than a cock tease.., And if I wanted anything doing with a cock tease, I'll carry on flirting with our new receptionist at work "

If you're all for 'each to their own' then why even ask the question?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

We have only just started to have full sex with couples, we soft swapped for a long while.

I have been swinging for a year but I couldnt have gone for a full swap the first time I went to a club. Its something that has to be built on for me.

Also I dont swing for sexual fulfilment as such. I have a partner who satisfies me so it may seem odd to say that im not doing this for sex. Its the thrill and excitement of doing something so bizarre almost, thats the pull for me. Even if I met a couple now, I wouldnt necessarily want full sex with them or need it, whatever happens happens, I go with the flow. I wouldnt want a guy to be pushy and expect it either

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Soft swap has a few definitions really.

To me its the same as any other swap except you only have penetrative sex with your own partner.

To others it can mean just having sex with your own partner but in the same room as another couple who are doing the same (more voyeuristic than anything else). Similar to going to a club but only playing with your own partner I guess.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Soft Swing:

Soft Swing is when there is playing around but not full penetrative sex with others. Often, in a couples situation, the women will have sex with each other with the men watching and then the couples will have sex with their own partners.

Both full swing & soft swing is fine with us

* creeps round graveyard *

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Simple answer - It's something that those that are into it find fun for them! "

yep, simples, we are all on here for the same reason, pleasure and you take your pleasure as you like your pleasure.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Ok my answer...

It is, like all fantasy, a physical realisation of an expectation.

*sits back on fence*

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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"Soft Swing:

Soft Swing is when there is playing around but not full penetrative sex with others. Often, in a couples situation, the women will have sex with each other with the men watching and then the couples will have sex with their own partners.

Both full swing & soft swing is fine with us

* creeps round graveyard *"

Thanks, that was the other one I had read about........but having been offered a no touching other than your own partner as soft swop in our inbox ...then I assume people have different definitions.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago
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My definition of soft swap is everything except full penetration,thats saved for your owm partners

So unless you're just a voyuer as a single man or a guy that does'nt mind most forms of play except full penetration,I can understand that soft swap would'nt be your thing

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By *agman n angelCouple  over a year ago

benidorm

for someone who says on thier profile that thier time on here is limited and you wont waste it on pointless......blah blah blah

what is the point of this thread?

we dont see the point in spanking but would never dream of wasting our precious time starting a thread about it as if thats what some people choose to do then hey what ever rocks ya boat.

we do full same room swap but if we fancy a couple who only want soft swap so be it and we will play that way but finish off together, which part of that dont you get??

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By *umourCouple  over a year ago

Rushden

No problem with Soft swap here! Yes there are a few definitions but we believe the one most use is to play up to but not including full penetration. Don't see it as a cock tease, we are not that shallow, but I suppose that if your brain is in your cock.....

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By *agman n angelCouple  over a year ago

benidorm

fully agree _umour

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Maybe oral does absolutely nothing for the OP

First time i've ever heard a man comparing a blowjob to flirting mind

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The point is that some people like it ..

It's as simple as that really

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple  over a year ago

Bolton

Is it just me or does any one else understand the liking to be spanked? To me, that's just plain wrong. This is not what I think at all, however, just highlighting that we all like different things and just because you don't 'get' something you can't really disparage it and make sweeping and incorrect generalisations about it! We have tried loads of interesting things and soft play is one and we thoroughly enjoy it! Z

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By *adchickCouple  over a year ago

Cyprus


"Is it just me or does anyone else don't understand this thing called Soft Swap.

"

I*t's just you

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By *emmefataleWoman  over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"Is it just me or does anyone else don't understand this thing called Soft Swap.

I*t's just you "

yep its just him

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Is it just me or does anyone else don't understand this thing called Soft Swap.

Hey.., I'm all for "Each To Their Own", but I can't help seeing it as anything other than a cock tease.., And if I wanted anything doing with a cock tease, I'll carry on flirting with our new receptionist at work "

Why should, or does it, bother you so much when you are a single man and you don't have anyone to 'soft swap' with?

People looking for soft swap will invariably be couples who get off watching their partners do things with other SIMILARLY LIKE MINDED PEOPLE and then swap back to their own partner for intercourse.

It's not even an issue, it's simply how some people like to play and as a single guy it shouldn't have any bearing whatsoever on your swinging life. So why bleat on about it?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

There is actually very little for you to understand about it.

As the fact you don't have a partner means that its unlikely to happen to you.

People soft swap for many reasons,reasons that are unique to every couple.

Having been on the scene myself for many years (And in a swinging couples relationship that lasted ten years)

I have come across many different interpretations of swinging and swapping.

I have spoken to many people about their swinging lives and have been fascinated by their answers and interpretations of the scene.

I have never been so forward as to ask a question quite like yours in open forum. (although i do understand that that is your right)

I have gained my knowledge of the scene over the years tactfully and delicacy. And have tried to understand fully others points of _iew whether or not they agree with my own.

Top and bottom of it is the fact that i need to understand and research "my hobby"

And that to me does not involve posts that start the way yours does xx

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By *amschwingerzCouple  over a year ago

West

What a pointless question...ITS ALL SOME PEOPLE WANT TO DO...end of!...its their limit, everyone has them, god know what the OP makes of us...we dont swap at all!..some peoples limits are full swap, they dont 'dog' do watersports...S&M etc..some people only soft swap...but do 'dog' watersports etc..

Some only want white, some only want thin, some only want old or same age..its THEIR PREFERENCE..

And some people may have personal concerns for their health and see full swing risky..

Lets face it, everyone is different..swingers are in the minority...some people would see swinging as completely bizarre and unacceptable anyway...their limit is kissing their neighbour at Christmas..but..thats their limit too..

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By *ardybumsCouple  over a year ago

peekin under duvet is it safe?


"Is it just me or does anyone else don't understand this thing called Soft Swap.

Hey.., I'm all for "Each To Their Own", but I can't help seeing it as anything other than a cock tease.., And if I wanted anything doing with a cock tease, I'll carry on flirting with our new receptionist at work "

careful fella , companies have these days there own take on 'flirting' its called the sack for gross misconduct !

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

if its soft swap it ? lol

Don't knock it - if ya aint tried it

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By *ptimusD OP   Man  over a year ago

Birmingham


"for someone who says on thier profile that thier time on here is limited and you wont waste it on pointless......blah blah blah

what is the point of this thread?

"

Ain't some people really touchy bagman_n_angel .., as you've been kind enough to look through my profile, you may recall that making a forum post on any topic that I like, with no obligation for any other member of this site to reply to such a post, wasn't one of the things I classed as a time wasting pointless exercise.

The definitions of many swinging terms are very varied. Even the term "swinging" doesn't have a common definition, never mind soft swap.

I am writing as a single male and this informs my take on this. After reading the responses to this post so far, it appears most of you aren't aware that there are couples who approach single guys for soft swap/play, where they expect some kissing, touching, nipple play, maybe a bit of oral.., but no penetrative sex. When things come to a head, they expect the guy to sit back and watch them have sex. The couple clearly gets a kick from all this, which I can understand, but I struggle to see what possible fun a single male can have with this. That is why I've likened it to a cock tease.

And I'm frankly quite puzzled with some of you that are being quite confrontational about this while speaking up for soft swapping. I really meant it when I said "each to their own", but that doesn't mean that I can't for example, have a conversation around homosexuality because I'm straight.., or ask a vegetarian how come they can't understand the pleasure one can have from a nicely cooked juicy steak.

They can of course be very simplistic about it all and say, I'm a vegan because I don't eat meat or I'm gay because I only fancy people of the same sex as me.., which will of course be a valid response. But that I think will be a shame because they haven't advanced the conversation and they will have been better off not getting involved in it at all.

So guys, lets all take a chill pill. If soft swapping is your thing, please carry on by all means, and if you feel offended by my post, then please walk on by and don't contribute.

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By *ig badMan  over a year ago

Up North :-)


"for someone who says on thier profile that thier time on here is limited and you wont waste it on pointless......blah blah blah

what is the point of this thread?

Ain't some people really touchy bagman_n_angel .., as you've been kind enough to look through my profile, you may recall that making a forum post on any topic that I like, with no obligation for any other member of this site to reply to such a post, wasn't one of the things I classed as a time wasting pointless exercise.

The definitions of many swinging terms are very varied. Even the term "swinging" doesn't have a common definition, never mind soft swap.

I am writing as a single male and this informs my take on this. After reading the responses to this post so far, it appears most of you aren't aware that there are couples who approach single guys for soft swap/play, where they expect some kissing, touching, nipple play, maybe a bit of oral.., but no penetrative sex. When things come to a head, they expect the guy to sit back and watch them have sex. The couple clearly gets a kick from all this, which I can understand, but I struggle to see what possible fun a single male can have with this. That is why I've likened it to a cock tease.

And I'm frankly quite puzzled with some of you that are being quite confrontational about this while speaking up for soft swapping. I really meant it when I said "each to their own", but that doesn't mean that I can't for example, have a conversation around homosexuality because I'm straight.., or ask a vegetarian how come they can't understand the pleasure one can have from a nicely cooked juicy steak.

They can of course be very simplistic about it all and say, I'm a vegan because I don't eat meat or I'm gay because I only fancy people of the same sex as me.., which will of course be a valid response. But that I think will be a shame because they haven't advanced the conversation and they will have been better off not getting involved in it at all.

So guys, lets all take a chill pill. If soft swapping is your thing, please carry on by all means, and if you feel offended by my post, then please walk on by and don't contribute."

Now that's irony! Someone being touchy about someone else supposedly being touchy! Nowt like throwing a tizzy. You asked a question dont throw your toys out when people reply to it as you look a bit silly.

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By *ertnbeckyCouple  over a year ago

oldham

way to go op how to make friends and influence people eh

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

what do you care as long as you get to cum??????

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

In defence of the OP..he is a GREAT F**k..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

What is the point of anything?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So guys, lets all take a chill pill. If soft swapping is your thing, please carry on by all means, and if you feel offended by my post, then please walk on by and don't contribute."

You invited comments both for and against soft swing when you posted it on an open forum. It is the very nature of debate to hear opposing sides of a given topic and to attempt to suppress one particular _iew because it doesn't coincide with your own is a form of fascism.

It wasn't that you posted your _iews against soft swing but the manner in which you addressed it. You belittled those who do prefer swinging without full penetrative sex and maybe, by your own definition, if soft swing isn't for you perhaps you should have 'walked on by' and not started a thread on the subject.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What is the point of anything?"

to deep for fab me thinks

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"In defence of the OP..he is a GREAT F**k.. "

im sure he is and prob a very nice guy, but thats not really the point here

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"In defence of the OP..he is a GREAT F**k..

im sure he is and prob a very nice guy, but thats not really the point here"

And by the admission above, he's absolutely pointless to couples who only soft swing.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Well if he soft when i get him he dont stay soft for long

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

To be honest..I do struggle to see what soft swap would offer to a single guy..other than a voyeuristic element maybe..??

I mix soft swap..full swap..depending on who I am playing with..and the mood and the moment..I find its more fun not having strict rules of fun that are written in stone...buts thats just how I play..not everyone's cup o T I guess xx

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By *ptimusD OP   Man  over a year ago

Birmingham


"What is the point of anything?"

Perharps that should have been my question, based on some of the responses to this post lol

On a serious note, I'm willing to admit that my question could have been framed better, but some of the responses were getting personal, and my question wasn't, neither was my second post on this thread.

I am quite happy for people to have a different point of _iew from mine and a few people have expressed those _iews on this thread without getting personal about it.

And I'm sure some may not have noticed amongst everything else, but a few of the responses have actually addressed the Subject Of The Post, and in quite some detail as well.

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By *mcouple1Couple  over a year ago

nr warrington


"for someone who says on thier profile that thier time on here is limited and you wont waste it on pointless......blah blah blah

what is the point of this thread?

Ain't some people really touchy bagman_n_angel .., as you've been kind enough to look through my profile, you may recall that making a forum post on any topic that I like, with no obligation for any other member of this site to reply to such a post, wasn't one of the things I classed as a time wasting pointless exercise.

The definitions of many swinging terms are very varied. Even the term "swinging" doesn't have a common definition, never mind soft swap.

I am writing as a single male and this informs my take on this. After reading the responses to this post so far, it appears most of you aren't aware that there are couples who approach single guys for soft swap/play, where they expect some kissing, touching, nipple play, maybe a bit of oral.., but no penetrative sex. When things come to a head, they expect the guy to sit back and watch them have sex. The couple clearly gets a kick from all this, which I can understand, but I struggle to see what possible fun a single male can have with this. That is why I've likened it to a cock tease.

And I'm frankly quite puzzled with some of you that are being quite confrontational about this while speaking up for soft swapping. I really meant it when I said "each to their own", but that doesn't mean that I can't for example, have a conversation around homosexuality because I'm straight.., or ask a vegetarian how come they can't understand the pleasure one can have from a nicely cooked juicy steak.

They can of course be very simplistic about it all and say, I'm a vegan because I don't eat meat or I'm gay because I only fancy people of the same sex as me.., which will of course be a valid response. But that I think will be a shame because they haven't advanced the conversation and they will have been better off not getting involved in it at all.

So guys, lets all take a chill pill. If soft swapping is your thing, please carry on by all means, and if you feel offended by my post, then please walk on by and don't contribute."

We r soft swingers ( everything apart from penatration with a cock ) maybe you should ask some of the single guys on our verifications why they met us to be teased? I can see your point, after all who would want to meet a couple and have their body touched by fingers / mouth / boobs / kissing /massage. I mean what single guy would want to spend time naked whilst in the company of a beautifull woman and seeing the pleasure on her face as u use your imagination to make her body tingle?

Surely its better to turn up with a hard on to save all the teasing. Then no small talk / walk in / cock in / shoot your load ( after all thats the most important thing to you ) / say thanks then leave x Guess thats real swinging eh x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Is it just me or does anyone else don't understand this thing called Soft Swap.

Hey.., I'm all for "Each To Their Own", but I can't help seeing it as anything other than a cock tease.., And if I wanted anything doing with a cock tease, I'll carry on flirting with our new receptionist at work "

think you need a dating site not a swingers one!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Not every sexual act or activity will appeal to everyone and if we"re honest there are some that we each ask ourselves "why?!!"

However OP why people have got annoyed and defensive is you're belittling their choices and no one likes that.

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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I agree with Sassy and others, threads started with "why are people" Why do people" normally sound like a critising post so may not get the response you want.

But in answer to the question that you explained a bit more down the thread............if a couple offered Mr R to go and watch them have sex, he would bite their hands off, he wouldn't even need to play with the wife he would be quite happy sat watching them, voyeurs get their kicks that way and I am sure there must be men about who would be happy to do what you were offered.

It doesn't mean that the couple are just out to tease people, it just means it isn't your thing.

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By *he_original_poloWoman  over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

In my experience it is the less creative with limited imagination who cannot see a number of situations where soft swap/swing can be intensely gratifying, providing satisfaction on a different level to plain ol’ bonking.

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By *umourCouple  over a year ago

Rushden

So, OP.... There you are at a club and you pick up a fantastic looking girl. You start to get all jiggy with her and she points out that as she doesn't know you sex is off the menu, but light foreplay is OK... Do you tell her to fuck off cos she is a cock tease??

Just askin

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So, OP.... There you are at a club and you pick up a fantastic looking girl. You start to get all jiggy with her and she points out that as she doesn't know you sex is off the menu, but light foreplay is OK... Do you tell her to fuck off cos she is a cock tease??

Just askin"

yeah unless she has a strap on on lol

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By *HAGADELICCouple  over a year ago

south london

A problem fro us is those soft swap couples who start to play with you or flirt with you on line but when you find out/ tell them "oh ok no thank you sorry but we are full swap only"

They get arsey with you " we don't see wht the problem is if everyone's limits are respected!"

OK fine, will let you get on with things the way you want with someone else- but don't get peeved because we don't agree with your limits!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"In my experience it is the less creative with limited imagination who cannot see a number of situations where soft swap/swing can be intensely gratifying, providing satisfaction on a different level to plain ol’ bonking. "

On the other hand, i also see no point in soft swing, nothing to do with being less creative, its to do with having been on my own for over 10 yrs after my kids dad and i split so for me, i want not only to make up for lost time but learn more too, just at this moment in time, and for a change, ive read all the comments before commenting, it just seems that soft swing is all about pleasure for a guy and not for a woman at all

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By *he_original_poloWoman  over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester


"In my experience it is the less creative with limited imagination who cannot see a number of situations where soft swap/swing can be intensely gratifying, providing satisfaction on a different level to plain ol’ bonking.

On the other hand, i also see no point in soft swing, nothing to do with being less creative, its to do with having been on my own for over 10 yrs after my kids dad and i split so for me, i want not only to make up for lost time but learn more too, just at this moment in time, and for a change, ive read all the comments before commenting, it just seems that soft swing is all about pleasure for a guy and not for a woman at all "

Au contraire... it is more often quite the opposite.

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple  over a year ago

Bolton


"In my experience it is the less creative with limited imagination who cannot see a number of situations where soft swap/swing can be intensely gratifying, providing satisfaction on a different level to plain ol’ bonking.

On the other hand, i also see no point in soft swing, nothing to do with being less creative, its to do with having been on my own for over 10 yrs after my kids dad and i split so for me, i want not only to make up for lost time but learn more too, just at this moment in time, and for a change, ive read all the comments before commenting, it just seems that soft swing is all about pleasure for a guy and not for a woman at all "

I have to disagree with this re the guy having all the fun as I have always had a lot of fun in a soft swing scenario,it's very sensual and erotic! Z

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"In my experience it is the less creative with limited imagination who cannot see a number of situations where soft swap/swing can be intensely gratifying, providing satisfaction on a different level to plain ol’ bonking.

On the other hand, i also see no point in soft swing, nothing to do with being less creative, its to do with having been on my own for over 10 yrs after my kids dad and i split so for me, i want not only to make up for lost time but learn more too, just at this moment in time, and for a change, ive read all the comments before commenting, it just seems that soft swing is all about pleasure for a guy and not for a woman at all

I have to disagree with this re the guy having all the fun as I have always had a lot of fun in a soft swing scenario,it's very sensual and erotic! Z"

Well thats the thing see, at this moment in time, i cannot see it being fun or erotic for a woman

confused.com

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple  over a year ago

Bolton


"In my experience it is the less creative with limited imagination who cannot see a number of situations where soft swap/swing can be intensely gratifying, providing satisfaction on a different level to plain ol’ bonking.

On the other hand, i also see no point in soft swing, nothing to do with being less creative, its to do with having been on my own for over 10 yrs after my kids dad and i split so for me, i want not only to make up for lost time but learn more too, just at this moment in time, and for a change, ive read all the comments before commenting, it just seems that soft swing is all about pleasure for a guy and not for a woman at all

I have to disagree with this re the guy having all the fun as I have always had a lot of fun in a soft swing scenario,it's very sensual and erotic! Z

Well thats the thing see, at this moment in time, i cannot see it being fun or erotic for a woman

confused.com "

So, you can't imagine being touched, stroked, nibbled or licked etc etc etc? Crikey, that's a shame. Z

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By *he_original_poloWoman  over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester


"In my experience it is the less creative with limited imagination who cannot see a number of situations where soft swap/swing can be intensely gratifying, providing satisfaction on a different level to plain ol’ bonking.

On the other hand, i also see no point in soft swing, nothing to do with being less creative, its to do with having been on my own for over 10 yrs after my kids dad and i split so for me, i want not only to make up for lost time but learn more too, just at this moment in time, and for a change, ive read all the comments before commenting, it just seems that soft swing is all about pleasure for a guy and not for a woman at all

I have to disagree with this re the guy having all the fun as I have always had a lot of fun in a soft swing scenario,it's very sensual and erotic! Z

Well thats the thing see, at this moment in time, i cannot see it being fun or erotic for a woman

confused.com "

Please refer to my original comment

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"In my experience it is the less creative with limited imagination who cannot see a number of situations where soft swap/swing can be intensely gratifying, providing satisfaction on a different level to plain ol’ bonking.

On the other hand, i also see no point in soft swing, nothing to do with being less creative, its to do with having been on my own for over 10 yrs after my kids dad and i split so for me, i want not only to make up for lost time but learn more too, just at this moment in time, and for a change, ive read all the comments before commenting, it just seems that soft swing is all about pleasure for a guy and not for a woman at all

I have to disagree with this re the guy having all the fun as I have always had a lot of fun in a soft swing scenario,it's very sensual and erotic! Z

Well thats the thing see, at this moment in time, i cannot see it being fun or erotic for a woman

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So, you can't imagine being touched, stroked, nibbled or licked etc etc etc? Crikey, that's a shame. Z"

Of course and its part of a good sex session but surely after all that, no pentration? I just think that once one has done all the exploration of each others bodies, the natural course to follow is to penetrate, just feels like teasing - i can expect to go away unsatisfied from playing at a club but not from a meet??

Its no good i give up, i cannot see the point in havin a main course without dessert

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple  over a year ago

Bolton


"In my experience it is the less creative with limited imagination who cannot see a number of situations where soft swap/swing can be intensely gratifying, providing satisfaction on a different level to plain ol’ bonking.

On the other hand, i also see no point in soft swing, nothing to do with being less creative, its to do with having been on my own for over 10 yrs after my kids dad and i split so for me, i want not only to make up for lost time but learn more too, just at this moment in time, and for a change, ive read all the comments before commenting, it just seems that soft swing is all about pleasure for a guy and not for a woman at all

I have to disagree with this re the guy having all the fun as I have always had a lot of fun in a soft swing scenario,it's very sensual and erotic! Z

Well thats the thing see, at this moment in time, i cannot see it being fun or erotic for a woman

confused.com

So, you can't imagine being touched, stroked, nibbled or licked etc etc etc? Crikey, that's a shame. Z

Of course and its part of a good sex session but surely after all that, no pentration? I just think that once one has done all the exploration of each others bodies, the natural course to follow is to penetrate, just feels like teasing - i can expect to go away unsatisfied from playing at a club but not from a meet??

Its no good i give up, i cannot see the point in havin a main course without dessert "

Hellooooo!!!! We do have penetrative sex - with our own partners! We also love full swap so we get the best of both worlds! Z

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"In my experience it is the less creative with limited imagination who cannot see a number of situations where soft swap/swing can be intensely gratifying, providing satisfaction on a different level to plain ol’ bonking.

On the other hand, i also see no point in soft swing, nothing to do with being less creative, its to do with having been on my own for over 10 yrs after my kids dad and i split so for me, i want not only to make up for lost time but learn more too, just at this moment in time, and for a change, ive read all the comments before commenting, it just seems that soft swing is all about pleasure for a guy and not for a woman at all

I have to disagree with this re the guy having all the fun as I have always had a lot of fun in a soft swing scenario,it's very sensual and erotic! Z

Well thats the thing see, at this moment in time, i cannot see it being fun or erotic for a woman

confused.com

Please refer to my original comment "

Sorry but im still struggling to comprehend the point, will have to try it and let you know, for now ive taken it off my profile

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"In my experience it is the less creative with limited imagination who cannot see a number of situations where soft swap/swing can be intensely gratifying, providing satisfaction on a different level to plain ol’ bonking.

On the other hand, i also see no point in soft swing, nothing to do with being less creative, its to do with having been on my own for over 10 yrs after my kids dad and i split so for me, i want not only to make up for lost time but learn more too, just at this moment in time, and for a change, ive read all the comments before commenting, it just seems that soft swing is all about pleasure for a guy and not for a woman at all

I have to disagree with this re the guy having all the fun as I have always had a lot of fun in a soft swing scenario,it's very sensual and erotic! Z

Well thats the thing see, at this moment in time, i cannot see it being fun or erotic for a woman

confused.com

So, you can't imagine being touched, stroked, nibbled or licked etc etc etc? Crikey, that's a shame. Z

Of course and its part of a good sex session but surely after all that, no pentration? I just think that once one has done all the exploration of each others bodies, the natural course to follow is to penetrate, just feels like teasing - i can expect to go away unsatisfied from playing at a club but not from a meet??

Its no good i give up, i cannot see the point in havin a main course without dessert

Hellooooo!!!! We do have penetrative sex - with our own partners! We also love full swap so we get the best of both worlds! Z"

Guess its just a couples thing then?

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By *he_original_poloWoman  over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester


"In my experience it is the less creative with limited imagination who cannot see a number of situations where soft swap/swing can be intensely gratifying, providing satisfaction on a different level to plain ol’ bonking.

On the other hand, i also see no point in soft swing, nothing to do with being less creative, its to do with having been on my own for over 10 yrs after my kids dad and i split so for me, i want not only to make up for lost time but learn more too, just at this moment in time, and for a change, ive read all the comments before commenting, it just seems that soft swing is all about pleasure for a guy and not for a woman at all

I have to disagree with this re the guy having all the fun as I have always had a lot of fun in a soft swing scenario,it's very sensual and erotic! Z

Well thats the thing see, at this moment in time, i cannot see it being fun or erotic for a woman

confused.com

Please refer to my original comment

Sorry but im still struggling to comprehend the point, ...."

I rest my case

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple  over a year ago

Bolton


"In my experience it is the less creative with limited imagination who cannot see a number of situations where soft swap/swing can be intensely gratifying, providing satisfaction on a different level to plain ol’ bonking.

On the other hand, i also see no point in soft swing, nothing to do with being less creative, its to do with having been on my own for over 10 yrs after my kids dad and i split so for me, i want not only to make up for lost time but learn more too, just at this moment in time, and for a change, ive read all the comments before commenting, it just seems that soft swing is all about pleasure for a guy and not for a woman at all

I have to disagree with this re the guy having all the fun as I have always had a lot of fun in a soft swing scenario,it's very sensual and erotic! Z

Well thats the thing see, at this moment in time, i cannot see it being fun or erotic for a woman

confused.com

Please refer to my original comment

Sorry but im still struggling to comprehend the point, ....

I rest my case "

lol - and I've lost the will to live! Z

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"In my experience it is the less creative with limited imagination who cannot see a number of situations where soft swap/swing can be intensely gratifying, providing satisfaction on a different level to plain ol’ bonking.

On the other hand, i also see no point in soft swing, nothing to do with being less creative, its to do with having been on my own for over 10 yrs after my kids dad and i split so for me, i want not only to make up for lost time but learn more too, just at this moment in time, and for a change, ive read all the comments before commenting, it just seems that soft swing is all about pleasure for a guy and not for a woman at all

I have to disagree with this re the guy having all the fun as I have always had a lot of fun in a soft swing scenario,it's very sensual and erotic! Z

Well thats the thing see, at this moment in time, i cannot see it being fun or erotic for a woman

confused.com

Please refer to my original comment

Sorry but im still struggling to comprehend the point, ....

I rest my case "

Me too i will try it and let you know

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I will do it my way....

I will swap soft for hard any day

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By *HAGADELICCouple  over a year ago

south london

A good swinging meet is like a story.

And all stories need a beginning a middle and an end.

Softswap for us is a bit of beginning and a lot of middle and doesn't have an ending it just leaves you hanging.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Wikipedia says:

As a general rule, swinging couples engage in conventional sexual activities, but with other partners. Penetrative sex by a swinging partner is referred to as a full swap; while non-penetrative sex, such as oral sex, is referred to as a soft swap. New swinging couples often choose a soft swap before they are comfortable with a full swap, although many couples stay "soft swap" for personal or safety related reasons.[3] Soft swinging occurs when the couple engage in sexual activities while two or more other couples perform sex acts in the immediate vicinity.

Soft Swinging Definitions from a Soft Swing website:

It is hard to define exactly what soft swinging is, as the boundaries between soft and full swinging are different for everybody involved in the lifestyle.

A few basic definitions are:

? Watching other people having sex - known as Voyeurs

? Being watched while having sex - know as Exhibitionists

• Both of these include same room sex, where you and your partner play with each other while watching another couple play.

? Having oral sex, but not full intercourse with people other than their partners, but with their partner present.

Some definitions by users of the site.

I would say that a soft swingers are people who are looking for an erotic or sexual experience involving others, but don't necessarily want full sex.

Examples might be...

? exhibitionism or voyeurism. But a same room/own partner experience could be simply that it is fun and exciting to be flirty/touchy with others, getting turned on, as a warm-up to sex with your own partner.

? Don't think you could call this exhibitionism!!!

? Could be photography, and sharing this with others.

? Could be couples with just the females touching/kissing each other.

? Could be just chatting on line and swapping photos (this is all some people want to do...perhaps they should be encouraged to admit it, as it might cut down on the 'time-wasters').

? Could be bloody anything anyone finds sexy!!!!

I would consider myself a soft swinger...but I would (and do) fully participate if I want to at the time. But my first definition still covers this...as I don't have prearranged full sex with someone I have only just met.

In my opinion, for many soft swingers the build-up is often as much fun as the event itself. It is foreplay taken to extremes...a gradual teasing and build up of sexual tension over a long time...the ideas and fantasies are very erotic. Emails, phone calls, photos can all be part of that. So can taking things slowly when you do meet someone.

However, this can be annoying for a lot of people, as they do not find it a turn-on, just frustrating!!! I don't believe it's about soft swingers being scared, or time wasters, it's about wanting something else.

My conclusion therefore based on the above, the search on soft swing on Fab’s forums and comments made on here are that, it is really only for couples and voyeurs, it is something enjoyed at clubs as one does not always get the chance to sit on someone’s cock. I don’t think it is particularly something for me as I would find it uncomfortable playing with a couple in their home, then being left to sit and watch whilst he shags her senseless, totally pointless as my problem is that I cannot come by clit play at all, indeed I’ve only been coming with finger/cock play since I’ve been swinging. With that in mind I agree with the comment above that it would just be frustrating (and a tease), would rather stay home and play with my rabbit.

And using Shagadelic’s comment plus some from my findings:

Starter = exchange of messages, phone calls, social meet

Main course = swapping partners and pleasuring each other

Dessert = none therefore frustration, unfulfilled, unsatisfied

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple  over a year ago

Bolton

I'm not going to quote as it's too long! I agree that a single lady probably wouldn't go along to meet a soft swap couple if she is unable to come by oral stimulation alone. However, we have only ever soft played with couples and have never been left unfulfilled as I have always had several orgasms and usually had penetrative sex with Steve as the others were with each other. We would never, ever in a million years leave ANYONE just sitting and watchig us get our rocks off if that wasn't satisfactory for them, for God's sake what kind of monsters would do that?!?!? I think that just becaus people don't understand something they can't be in a position to say it's not good - lots of people like soft swing so we must be doing something right! It may just be a couple thing, obviously the right dynamics need to be there and all need to be included all the time but I also know of a few couples who only soft swap and also meet single guys. If the guy knows the score and goes along to play, he either genuinely enjoys it or goes along in thehopes that they'll realise how fantastic he is and change their whole ethos of swinging just for him! Either way, the chap can't complain after the fact. So, to sum up - lots of flirting, kissing, touching, licking, stroking is a lovley way to spend a divine couple of hours! Z

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By *he_original_poloWoman  over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester


"

My conclusion therefore based on the above, the search on soft swing on Fab’s forums and comments made on here are that, it is really only for couples and voyeurs, it is something enjoyed at clubs as one does not always get the chance to sit on someone’s cock. I don’t think it is particularly something for me as I would find it uncomfortable playing with a couple in their home, then being left to sit and watch whilst he shags her senseless, totally pointless as my problem is that I cannot come by clit play at all, indeed I’ve only been coming with finger/cock play since I’ve been swinging. With that in mind I agree with the comment above that it would just be frustrating (and a tease), would rather stay home and play with my rabbit.

"

And your conclusion shows the limits of your imagination, as you only refer to one scenario which you feel could involve you.

Why is it going to visit only one couple? … what about 6 couples, all giving their attention to you…. what about 6 guys and a bag of toys, ALL giving their attention to you.

The “what abouts” are almost endless… only limited by the mind they are created in.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

My conclusion therefore based on the above, the search on soft swing on Fab’s forums and comments made on here are that, it is really only for couples and voyeurs, it is something enjoyed at clubs as one does not always get the chance to sit on someone’s cock. I don’t think it is particularly something for me as I would find it uncomfortable playing with a couple in their home, then being left to sit and watch whilst he shags her senseless, totally pointless as my problem is that I cannot come by clit play at all, indeed I’ve only been coming with finger/cock play since I’ve been swinging. With that in mind I agree with the comment above that it would just be frustrating (and a tease), would rather stay home and play with my rabbit.

And your conclusion shows the limits of your imagination, as you only refer to one scenario which you feel could involve you.

Why is it going to visit only one couple? … what about 6 couples, all giving their attention to you…. what about 6 guys and a bag of toys, ALL giving their attention to you.

The “what abouts” are almost endless… only limited by the mind they are created in.

"

Yes I admit my imagination is poor, it always has been and i cant help that. Kind of reminds me of the big round room from what ive seen on occasions, stories i have heard too

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm not going to quote as it's too long! I agree that a single lady probably wouldn't go along to meet a soft swap couple if she is unable to come by oral stimulation alone. However, we have only ever soft played with couples and have never been left unfulfilled as I have always had several orgasms and usually had penetrative sex with Steve as the others were with each other. We would never, ever in a million years leave ANYONE just sitting and watchig us get our rocks off if that wasn't satisfactory for them, for God's sake what kind of monsters would do that?!?!? I think that just becaus people don't understand something they can't be in a position to say it's not good - lots of people like soft swing so we must be doing something right! It may just be a couple thing, obviously the right dynamics need to be there and all need to be included all the time but I also know of a few couples who only soft swap and also meet single guys. If the guy knows the score and goes along to play, he either genuinely enjoys it or goes along in thehopes that they'll realise how fantastic he is and change their whole ethos of swinging just for him! Either way, the chap can't complain after the fact. So, to sum up - lots of flirting, kissing, touching, licking, stroking is a lovley way to spend a divine couple of hours! Z"

Your last line matches exactly what was said on some of the websites i visited too

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By *ptimusD OP   Man  over a year ago

Birmingham

There are a couple of posts above I could have commented on, but I'll just not. Best to let sleeping dogs lie.

It is however good to see that we're now having a balanced conversation around this. For a while I thought I was the only one that couldn't understand what fun could be had from soft swap.

From the posts above, different people have different reasons for soft swapping and also get different kicks from soft swapping.

There is a voyeuristic/exhibitionist element to it for some. Some do it as a stop gap, and will eventually get to full swap when they feel they're ready. Some do it because that is the full extent of their swinging..they only want to be the ones having full blown sex with their partners. Others do it for other varied reasons.

I agree that a good amount of the pleasure we can get from sex is linked to the mind. However I do not agree, as someone implied above, that those who don't soft swap or don't understand how they can get sexual pleasure from it are less creative or have a less imaginative mind.

Our minds stretch to help us get the best of what we're interested in or what we're capable of. With all the creativity and imagination in the world, one who isn't so inclined will have no pleasure from playing with feet. On the other hand, those who have foot fetishes can let their imaginations go wild on their fetish and can have as much pleasure as possible.., or not quite as much if they can't stretch their imaginations.

I know soft swap won't work for me, because I know very well where my pleasures lie in the swinging scene. And I say this knowing that it is mainly a couples thing.., but single guys can and do get involved as well.

For those who enjoy it, I'm sure they get lots of pleasures out of it, even though I can't understand it myself xx

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By *he_original_poloWoman  over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester


"

I agree that a good amount of the pleasure we can get from sex is linked to the mind. However I do not agree, as someone implied above, that those who don't soft swap or don't understand how they can get sexual pleasure from it are less creative or have a less imaginative mind.

Our minds stretch to help us get the best of what we're interested in or what we're capable of. ..."

That would be me then.

And I stand by my comment.

People dismiss so many things because they limit their imagination to one or two possible scenarios... usually ones they know they won't enjoy, if they are trying to prove that point.

I don't believe for one minute if 4 or 5 naked babes offered to lay you down and spent an hour or so massaging you, licking your cock and balls, one wanking your cock as another's lips brush over the top, the next ready to wrap her ample breasts around your cock.... you'd say "sorry ladies... no poke, no bloke... I'm off"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

ALL pleasure we get is linked to the mind!You cannot detach the body from the brain.

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By *HAGADELICCouple  over a year ago

south london


"

I don't believe for one minute if 4 or 5 naked babes offered to lay you down and spent an hour or so massaging you, licking your cock and balls, one wanking your cock as another's lips brush over the top, the next ready to wrap her ample breasts around your cock.... you'd say "sorry ladies... no poke, no bloke... I'm off""

Er.... actually yes would be out the door

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

I agree that a good amount of the pleasure we can get from sex is linked to the mind. However I do not agree, as someone implied above, that those who don't soft swap or don't understand how they can get sexual pleasure from it are less creative or have a less imaginative mind.

Our minds stretch to help us get the best of what we're interested in or what we're capable of. ...

That would be me then.

And I stand by my comment.

People dismiss so many things because they limit their imagination to one or two possible scenarios... usually ones they know they won't enjoy, if they are trying to prove that point.

I don't believe for one minute if 4 or 5 naked babes offered to lay you down and spent an hour or so massaging you, licking your cock and balls, one wanking your cock as another's lips brush over the top, the next ready to wrap her ample breasts around your cock.... you'd say "sorry ladies... no poke, no bloke... I'm off""

You can have a lot of fun without a poke, i would stop

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By *he_original_poloWoman  over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester


"

I don't believe for one minute if 4 or 5 naked babes offered to lay you down and spent an hour or so massaging you, licking your cock and balls, one wanking your cock as another's lips brush over the top, the next ready to wrap her ample breasts around your cock.... you'd say "sorry ladies... no poke, no bloke... I'm off"

Er.... actually yes would be out the door

"

I wasn't saying that to you. lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


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I don't believe for one minute if 4 or 5 naked babes offered to lay you down and spent an hour or so massaging you, licking your cock and balls, one wanking your cock as another's lips brush over the top, the next ready to wrap her ample breasts around your cock.... you'd say "sorry ladies... no poke, no bloke... I'm off"

Er.... actually yes would be out the door

I wasn't saying that to you. lol"

love yer new ad polo

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By *orestersCouple  over a year ago

The Forest


"ALL pleasure we get is linked to the mind!You cannot detach the body from the brain."

You can too detach the body from the brain - by the use of alcohol.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"ALL pleasure we get is linked to the mind!You cannot detach the body from the brain.

You can too detach the body from the brain - by the use of alcohol.

"

brain is a muscle and physical, mind is intangible, nobody really knows what it is.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"ALL pleasure we get is linked to the mind!You cannot detach the body from the brain.

You can too detach the body from the brain - by the use of alcohol.

"

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By *ptimusD OP   Man  over a year ago

Birmingham


"

I don't believe for one minute if 4 or 5 naked babes offered to lay you down and spent an hour or so massaging you, licking your cock and balls, one wanking your cock as another's lips brush over the top, the next ready to wrap her ample breasts around your cock.... you'd say "sorry ladies... no poke, no bloke... I'm off"

Er.... actually yes would be out the door

I wasn't saying that to you. lol"

I don't understand. Why weren't you saying that to them? You were referring to people who don't get soft swap weren't you? So why exclude them from you less imaginative/creative mind statement.

They are a couple, they don't get soft swap and don't do soft swap and they've said it clearly in bold letters in their profile.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.., are you saying that your statement only applies to single guys? It is okay for couples not to see the fun in soft swap but not single guys?

Going back to your scenario, if it is not going to eventually lead to some hip thrusting on my part, then as tempting as it may be, I'm not having any 4 or 5 naked babes do anything to me.

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By *he_original_poloWoman  over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester


"

I don't believe for one minute if 4 or 5 naked babes offered to lay you down and spent an hour or so massaging you, licking your cock and balls, one wanking your cock as another's lips brush over the top, the next ready to wrap her ample breasts around your cock.... you'd say "sorry ladies... no poke, no bloke... I'm off"

Er.... actually yes would be out the door

I wasn't saying that to you. lol

I don't understand. Why weren't you saying that to them? You were referring to people who don't get soft swap weren't you? So why exclude them from you less imaginative/creative mind statement.

They are a couple, they don't get soft swap and don't do soft swap and they've said it clearly in bold letters in their profile.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.., are you saying that your statement only applies to single guys? It is okay for couples not to see the fun in soft swap but not single guys?

Going back to your scenario, if it is not going to eventually lead to some hip thrusting on my part, then as tempting as it may be, I'm not having any 4 or 5 naked babes do anything to me."

There is much you don't understand (by your own admission)

It is very simple... I would have tailored the example to be more suiting to a couple if it was aimed at a couple.

If the human race dismissed everything it didn’t understand… we’d be sitting around some burning twigs on our flat world.

It’s OK to not understand something.

It’s OK to have not yet imagined how something may work in a certain situation for you because of not understanding it.

It's even OK to understand something and decide it really doesn't work enough for you.

But to dismiss it totally before even understanding it, label it as something it is not and refuse to let your imagination create possibilities… hmmmm.

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