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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I was watching Jeremy Kyle this morning and Im off sick and todays topic was obesity and gastric band operations.
Now in the swinging world BBW is extremely popular and bigger ladies on here are very sexy.
But what about as children - were you big then, whose fault is it that some children as young as 5 are classed as obese. Is it genetic, or is it the parents fault for feeding them the wrong food and no restricting food if they have a tendency to overeat.
I wasnt big as a child and in fact only put weight on when i had my second child, all through my teens and early 20s I was tiny. My children are slim too.
Also if it was offered freely on the NHS, would you go for a gastric band to restrict the food, thereby feeling fuller quicker, or are you really happy with your size.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I had plenty of "puppy fat" as a kid, but my parents didn't feed me rubbish and I was outside almost constantly playing- now I have a constant fight to stay the weight I am- which I'm happy at, so I suppose it's partly genetic, but mostly down to you as an adult. I wouldn't have a gastric band as I like myself (with a little work) however I can absolutely understand why people would do it |
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its defo not genetic,as a teen i weighed my age but all 3 of my kids are very slim as adults and were as kids too.
unlike their mother (me) who untill last year weighed 24 stone, now after a gastric by pass 16 months ago im only 12 stone. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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In our house you had a good breakfast, school dinners, a good homecoming snack and then a proper tea/dinner. Between times the cupboard was off limits the only extras were plenty of fruit and mainly apples. Maybe a wedge of bread and marmite fer supper?
I am glad cos I have good eating habits now and maintain a regular weight. No crisps or pop required, just the occasional choccy bar - well I am female after all  |
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By *umpkinMan
over a year ago
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It never ceases to amaze me how many clearly overweight children I see on my round the schools I maintain. This is most evident during the athletics season. Equally evident is the vast quantity of junk food packaging that`s strewn about the playing fields after dinner has been consumed outside during the better weather. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Sounds like our house. Mum still does proper dinners when I go to visit- no shop bought stuff- that's just the way she was brought up and can't help it even now |
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I vowed i wasnt going to have a fat child. He was born at 33 weeks and they told me all this bumf but being a mother i think your instinct drives you. I had him weened at 7 weeks, then i slowly introduced little bits of fresh fish and chicken even when i couldnt afford it for myself. He never ever had full fat drinks all ways sugar free, didnt have any sweets until he was 5. They told me he would have so maany things wrong with him cause of him being born early. Well at 20 hes very lean (as apposed to skinny) can run 15 miles in one session and ride 25 miles on a pushbike in one session. He eats and eats like a pig but only when he is hungry, he doesnt and never has eaten for the sake of it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Sounds like our house. Mum still does proper dinners when I go to visit- no shop bought stuff- that's just the way she was brought up and can't help it even now "
Yep, I always did proper dinners for mine and their Grandma helped as I was working. Their partners are also into proper food. It's all good. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Sounds like our house. Mum still does proper dinners when I go to visit- no shop bought stuff- that's just the way she was brought up and can't help it even now
Yep, I always did proper dinners for mine and their Grandma helped as I was working. Their partners are also into proper food. It's all good. "
Tis indeed |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Oh, the number of kids i teach that are seriously overwieght. Too damn many and more than anyone could imagine. Depresses their fitness levels, stamina, self esteem, concentration(in some cases) and is clearly leading to serous health issues down the line. Thing is that alot (not all by any means)of these kids don't eat much more than their slimmer peers but what they eat is junk, burgers, pizzas, nuggets, chips, chips, chips and crap from Iceland...mainly coz it's cheap and easy to prepare. For the first time in history the poor are fatter than the rich. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Do we think that maybe the rise in obese children does have something to do with us working mothers. Most of us work now, and therefore getting ready yourself for work as well as preparing healthy lunchboxes etc can be a bind. Also many kids get home before us, so want to snack before their main meal is cooked, so it could mean that some kids are in effect having two meals in the evening.
My kids have always had school dinners, mainly because I always had them as a child, im not sure that they are healthy now though (if they ever were). |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I didn't want to have fat children and didn't. My three daughters are all size 8 even though I think they're a little thin, but mothers always think their daughters need fattening up!
I'll probably need a hysterectomy and was surprised when my surgeon offered me a gastric band at the same time. I said didn't know they did BOGOF on the NHS! I'm not convinced about the hysterectomy let alone the gastric band.
I said if I wasn't through the menopause and lost six stone in a year I'd think about both. I'd rather lose weight myself. For me, if I'd never been married, didn't have kids, wanted to marry again, felt my weight was a hindrance I'd bite my surgeons hand off.
As it is I'll do it the "hard" way. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I didn't want to have fat children and didn't. My three daughters are all size 8 even though I think they're a little thin, but mothers always think their daughters need fattening up!
I'll probably need a hysterectomy and was surprised when my surgeon offered me a gastric band at the same time. I said didn't know they did BOGOF on the NHS! I'm not convinced about the hysterectomy let alone the gastric band.
I said if I wasn't through the menopause and lost six stone in a year I'd think about both. I'd rather lose weight myself. For me, if I'd never been married, didn't have kids, wanted to marry again, felt my weight was a hindrance I'd bite my surgeons hand off.
As it is I'll do it the "hard" way. "
tch he could never operate properly then  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I was watching Jeremy Kyle this morning and Im off sick and todays topic was obesity and gastric band operations.
Now in the swinging world BBW is extremely popular and bigger ladies on here are very sexy.
But what about as children - were you big then, whose fault is it that some children as young as 5 are classed as obese. Is it genetic, or is it the parents fault for feeding them the wrong food and no restricting food if they have a tendency to overeat.
I wasnt big as a child and in fact only put weight on when i had my second child, all through my teens and early 20s I was tiny. My children are slim too.
Also if it was offered freely on the NHS, would you go for a gastric band to restrict the food, thereby feeling fuller quicker, or are you really happy with your size. "
It’s a fallacy saying bigger women are very sexy. A woman is sexy if she has the personality and the ability to draw people in with her body and her sensuality. In reality both slim and obese women have the ability to be sexy if they try. Personally I do not find obese women attractive because of their limitations sexually and the sweat factor when things get energetic that put me off.
With children it’s just plain wrong for adults to let children become obese and yes it is preventable through a good diet. Often you will find obese children have an obese mother and its just down to a combination of a bad diet, greed and a lack of exercise. There should be no need of gastric bands and surgery its will power and eating less calories than you use in the day.
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"I didn't want to have fat children and didn't. My three daughters are all size 8 even though I think they're a little thin, but mothers always think their daughters need fattening up!
I'll probably need a hysterectomy and was surprised when my surgeon offered me a gastric band at the same time. I said didn't know they did BOGOF on the NHS! I'm not convinced about the hysterectomy let alone the gastric band.
I said if I wasn't through the menopause and lost six stone in a year I'd think about both. I'd rather lose weight myself. For me, if I'd never been married, didn't have kids, wanted to marry again, felt my weight was a hindrance I'd bite my surgeons hand off.
As it is I'll do it the "hard" way. "
They wanted me to have a gastric bypass. I went for all the councelling and decided it wasnt for me so the next week i joined slimming world and ive lost 23lb in 5 weeks. I know it will slow down but i reckon it will only take as long as it would of after the bypass (considering you have to wait a year roughly to have it done with all the consultations ect) |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I didn't want to have fat children and didn't. My three daughters are all size 8 even though I think they're a little thin, but mothers always think their daughters need fattening up!
I'll probably need a hysterectomy and was surprised when my surgeon offered me a gastric band at the same time. I said didn't know they did BOGOF on the NHS! I'm not convinced about the hysterectomy let alone the gastric band.
I said if I wasn't through the menopause and lost six stone in a year I'd think about both. I'd rather lose weight myself. For me, if I'd never been married, didn't have kids, wanted to marry again, felt my weight was a hindrance I'd bite my surgeons hand off.
As it is I'll do it the "hard" way.
tch he could never operate properly then "
Aaaah...you make a valid point! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I didn't want to have fat children and didn't. My three daughters are all size 8 even though I think they're a little thin, but mothers always think their daughters need fattening up!
I'll probably need a hysterectomy and was surprised when my surgeon offered me a gastric band at the same time. I said didn't know they did BOGOF on the NHS! I'm not convinced about the hysterectomy let alone the gastric band.
I said if I wasn't through the menopause and lost six stone in a year I'd think about both. I'd rather lose weight myself. For me, if I'd never been married, didn't have kids, wanted to marry again, felt my weight was a hindrance I'd bite my surgeons hand off.
As it is I'll do it the "hard" way.
They wanted me to have a gastric bypass. I went for all the councelling and decided it wasnt for me so the next week i joined slimming world and ive lost 23lb in 5 weeks. I know it will slow down but i reckon it will only take as long as it would of after the bypass (considering you have to wait a year roughly to have it done with all the consultations ect)"
I lost six stone in six months with Slimming World and going to the gym every other day. Losing weight was easy. Went on holiday to Italy, started in Rome and ended up at my sister's in Milan. By the time her mother in law had finished feeding me I'd forgotten about Slimming World and the gym: it only took two weeks!
My doctor didn't mention counselling: she seemed very eager for me to have the ops but like you, I'll try Slimming World again after Christmas of course!  |
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By *heWolfMan
over a year ago
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"Do we think that maybe the rise in obese children does have something to do with us working mothers. Most of us work now, and therefore getting ready yourself for work as well as preparing healthy lunchboxes etc can be a bind. Also many kids get home before us, so want to snack before their main meal is cooked, so it could mean that some kids are in effect having two meals in the evening."
Nah, nothing to do with working mothers, more to do with the cheapness of unhealthy foods. When I was a kid a can of fizzy pop was a treat (and one can would have to be shared between 3 of us kids). These days, most families have bottles of pop in the fridge. High Fructose Corn Syrup - it's the Devil's spunk. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Do we think that maybe the rise in obese children does have something to do with us working mothers. Most of us work now, and therefore getting ready yourself for work as well as preparing healthy lunchboxes etc can be a bind. Also many kids get home before us, so want to snack before their main meal is cooked, so it could mean that some kids are in effect having two meals in the evening.
Nah, nothing to do with working mothers, more to do with the cheapness of unhealthy foods. When I was a kid a can of fizzy pop was a treat (and one can would have to be shared between 3 of us kids). These days, most families have bottles of pop in the fridge. High Fructose Corn Syrup - it's the Devil's spunk. "
Yeah and i modified palm oil. The body can't process it like normal fatty oils so where does it end up, on the gut, arse etc and is the devil to get rid of. And where do u find this stuff? Cheap, cheap foods, KFC, Maccy dees (do love a big mac tho) etc etc.... |
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By *adchickCouple
over a year ago
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If an adult is happy in their own body, leave them alone and let them make the discision to lose weight.
If an adult is unhappy in their own body, then help is at hand via doctors, councellors, NHS etc.
If a child is obese then intervention is required. Be it medical or overfeeding, a child needs assistance in losing weight to stop the snide remarks, to stop the onset of (further) medical problems or to guide them into a healthier lifestyle.
As for the man that thinks that BBW should be lambasted..... shame on you for such a disgusting comment. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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No kids to speak of, however, my dog is a kg overweight according to the vet, and it is down to me giving him too much food.
I guess he takes up after me, and likes his food! So if I am on the chubby side, so will he!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"A big thank you to the moderator who did some serous housekeeping on this thread mwah xx
Agreed. Even if my post was removed also lol. "
Agreed, very good housekeeping indeedy!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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When my Youngest was three the HV said that she was overweight as she was on the 90th centile for weight and only the 50th for length. I was upset but this has carried on through to now. She has for breakfast a slice of toast but this isn't evry morning she has a school dinner and her tea at night. The thing is she has a piece of fruit for her play snack along with a small sweety. the school makes sure that she eats the fruit before anything else. For her to come home to it is a piece of fruit again. Dinner is small as I think she has already had one cooked meal. she doesn't eat much if she has a meal in front of her she will eat the Veg and leave the meat. I did try and halt her wieight for her height to catch up but it wouldn't work.
She is solid she runs around and is very active. But she is the way she is I know that once she is up a bit mor she will be slim as I was the same as my youngest. If anyone has any suggestons I will listen |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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Thank you mods for sorting out this thread. It goes to prove that if things are reported, then mods do sort it all out for the best of the site. Thanks again |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Do we think that maybe the rise in obese children does have something to do with us working mothers. Most of us work now, and therefore getting ready yourself for work as well as preparing healthy lunchboxes etc can be a bind. Also many kids get home before us, so want to snack before their main meal is cooked, so it could mean that some kids are in effect having two meals in the evening.
My kids have always had school dinners, mainly because I always had them as a child, im not sure that they are healthy now though (if they ever were). "
School dinners is the way to go. Don't underestimate the difference Jamie Oliver has made (annoying twerp tho he is) has made to school food. School dinners are now varied, generally yum and very healthy. At least in primary schools... |
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By *umourCouple
over a year ago
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"Thank you mods for sorting out this thread. It goes to prove that if things are reported, then mods do sort it all out for the best of the site. Thanks again "
Removal of posts on the forums is not desireable, unless the comment is illegal or singles a person out for ridicule! It amounts to censorship of someones opinion and is the start of the long slippery slope! Generalised comments should be left...
Info: the comment I am refering to is the one by the guy about overweight women! |
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Apart from the obvious factors of cheap & easily available fat/sugar/salt etc laden junk food, is there a bigger social norm?
Most of us when kids were shoved out of the door at early doors & not allowed back in til teatime during the holidays - we spent our time playing games, riding bikes etc.
Nowadays it seems that most kids are indoors on the X-box rather than playing out.
Only today i went out for a bike ride on the hills & everyone i met was easily over 30yrs of age.
Have we created a generation that is endemically lazy & therefore prone to weight gain? We certainly don't have as many physical jobs as there used to be and now most people work from behind a desk.
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By (user no longer on site)
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Anyone who knows me will attest to how incredibly skinny I am, and may be amazed to know I was not thus as a child/ teenager!
However, you cannot always blame the parents, as in my case, my Mum produced fantastic healthy meals and we ate as a family the majority of the time, but I secretly used my pocket money and later money from my weekend jobs to supplement this with junk.
The result was an overweight (just) child who was never happy in her skin.
I still struggle with my weight but that is my lack of willpower and my inherited fantastic cooking!
Ps. Great job mods, ref the BBW thing from last night, thank you. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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At 5'4 and size 12 at age 12 I was on the school nurse's 'fat kids' list. I spent all my teenage years worrying about my weight. Strangely now in my 40s and size 16-18 I find I'm more happy with my body than ever. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I think it's down to processed food and all the chemicals contained in them. I grew up with a mother that always gave us 3 large home cooked meals a day and I only weighed 6 stone at the age of 18.
I later shot up to 30 stone when feeding myself on convenience foods and have now lost 19 stone. My 2 kids are both slim and eat 3 good meals a day. I keep them away from the E numbers and additives as much as possible. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Personally I cant remember being small I started gaining weight when I hit puberty and left school a size 18. In my adulthood I have gone up and down but nothing lower that a size 20. I am comfortable in my own skin and how ever much I diet I cant get under it. My daughter who is 12 is 5ft 7 size 9 feet and in size 16 clothes slightly over weight but does eat healthy and regular exercise and at the moment having hormone and groth tests done at the hospital. And my youngest who is 8 is a little whippet with no meat on her and a very fussy eater go figure. |
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