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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I am having a rant the csa are bloody useless my youngest dad has not paid for seven years finally track him down he paid for 3 months and now the csa wants the money back all £171 of it because apparantly he has overpaid what a joke. There mistake why should I pay back grrrrrr. |
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"I am having a rant the csa are bloody useless my youngest dad has not paid for seven years finally track him down he paid for 3 months and now the csa wants the money back all £171 of it because apparantly he has overpaid what a joke. There mistake why should I pay back grrrrrr."
how can they wnt ALL the money back if he has overpaid? surely they would want just some of it as he should be paying something.
The CSA are a joke - i dont have any kids but i know a lot of people who have had frustrating dealings with them, men and women alike |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The csa can be your best friend or worst enemy .. they will only take from him from the time they track him ,,, they will take the overpayment out from your future payments ... to get back pay you have to take him to court . I would personally ask them to review your case hun besy way honest |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Already done that its just bloody frustrating have waited for seven years its a joke. Never asked for a lot just some acknowledgment and now they want it back. Well im not doing it. |
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Helen had the CSA onto her because of her ex-husband and new girlfriend were not working and thus the CSA looks to off-set what the state gives them.
The shit hit the fan when the CSA stopped paying money to the ex-husband claiming that Helen hadn’t paid them. Well the CSA came unstuck… Helen had receipts for payments into the CSA but they were not handing it over at the other end! Now I’m sure no one needs me to explain about the friction that caused between the two sides!
The name Child Support Agency is total bollocks, it’s a government body that was set up to off-set state support pay-out and nothing more, they do not give a toss about people or children, nor do they care about how much trouble they may cause.
For people not on state support they will act as an agent to try and recover child support funds from an absent parent but you might do better by doing that privately through the courts as the CSA couldn’t organise a bunk-up in a whorehouse!
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Im a single parent of two struggling to bring them up. I provide for all there needs and every penny is counted for. How can I pay it back. Im saving for school uniform and shoes again. And im paying for my eldest to go to France with school. I go without so they dont have to thats what being a parent is all about. |
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Seven years, i never had a penny of my ex husband in 16 years. I did everything myself, bloody hard at times but sat back in the satisfaction that my son had everything he needs because i paid for it and noone else |
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"Im a single parent of two struggling to bring them up. I provide for all there needs and every penny is counted for. How can I pay it back. Im saving for school uniform and shoes again. And im paying for my eldest to go to France with school. I go without so they dont have to thats what being a parent is all about."
I’m on your side and I do sympathise, I had 4 kids in my lap when my wife walked. Fortunately I have a good full time job, and two of the four were (almost) grown-ups. Never had a penny off my ex for support.
When Helen and I got together and the CSA got onto her they started enquiring about MY income!!! I told them what they could do in no uncertain terms!
They don’t care! Doesn’t matter what is right, what is wrong or what might be considered fair! They are there ONLY to off-set government pay-outs.
They do scare quite easy though…
A women claiming benefits will be pressurised for the whereabouts of her ex. If she refuses to provide information they reduce her benefits to ‘blackmail’ the information out of her. If she says, “If I tell you where he is he will beat me up” they just drop it like a heap of poo.
You might try going to see your GP, lay it on the line that the stress and worry of this is driving you to despair/depression/mental break down. Then reproach the CSA with… ‘This is causing me to have a nervous breakdown (as is not too far from the truth anyway perhaps) and if I do it will ALL be YOUR fault’.
Threaten them with formal complaints, letters from your GP, whatever you can throw at them… they are in so much shit they don’t want anymore.
Everything about government systems, DVLA, tax office, police, and judicial system is geared up to scare and pressurise the public… and for the most part… it works!
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maybe someone can help me in here then,
my dad left when i was born and never paid a penny towards anything and just last year i tracked him down and ended up asking him why he never helped out my mother (he said he couldnt as my family didnt like him)'joke or what' , could she be owed money from him as he never paid a single penny in his life for me |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I am having a rant the csa are bloody useless my youngest dad has not paid for seven years finally track him down he paid for 3 months and now the csa wants the money back all £171 of it because apparantly he has overpaid what a joke. There mistake why should I pay back grrrrrr."
You would think after 7 years of avoidance they would have let you have something extra. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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i must be one of the csa's successful claiments!
kiddos dad hadnt paid a penny towards her for 8 yr i contacted them and within 6 wks everythin was up and running then the tube decided to change jobs to avoid them but i found out where he was working and gave them the details now everythin runnin smooth again! the more details you can give them, the more chance you have of gettin somethin and phone them regularly!
if i hadnt decided to go to uni i wouldnt have bothered with them as i managed without his money as much as it was a struggle at times!
i have heard that people claiming benefits tend to be more of a priority for tracing absent parents as its less the state has to pay.
appeal it shaz and if they insist you have to pay the shit back offer £1.00 a wk they cant refuse it and make sure that your ex is payin even if it is the 5 quid off the giro its better in your pocket than his!
my mum never had the luxury of the csa and in my lifetime had a whole 10 quid off my father not that i really care she did a great job with me and i have no desire to contact him but its a lot of backdated pocket money and christmas and easter...etc!! xx |
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By *ustyWoman
over a year ago
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my now ex hubby and daughters father never paid a penny for her when i left him for over a year, i contacted csa and i now have a regular payment from him but it is not backdated for years, its only dated from when you claim and approx 15% of the other parents monthly income,check out the website |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Thankfully I picked a "winner"!!
Even though our marriage came to an end he never once shirked his duty as a father. Going to the CSA never crossed my mind - there wasn't a need to, he gave me £500 a month for the girls and helped our eldest with uni fees.
When our middle child turned 18 he dropped the payment to £250 a month, but still paid for her phone etc, found her a part-time job and only stopped "helping" when she qualified as a nursery nurse and found a full time job.
Our youngest turned 18 lasr year and he stopped payment to me but buys all her clothes, pays for her phone, pays her travel cost to and from college, pays for her driving and cello lessons and will pay most of her accommodation cost at uni.
He's also helped pay the utility bills if he knows the girls have been at home and had it on all day and I'm not financially strapped.
Sadly some parents are quite happy to shirk their responsibilities, but there are some that don't! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Thankfully I picked a "winner"!!
Even though our marriage came to an end he never once shirked his duty as a father. Going to the CSA never crossed my mind - there wasn't a need to, he gave me £500 a month for the girls and helped our eldest with uni fees.
When our middle child turned 18 he dropped the payment to £250 a month, but still paid for her phone etc, found her a part-time job and only stopped "helping" when she qualified as a nursery nurse and found a full time job.
Our youngest turned 18 lasr year and he stopped payment to me but buys all her clothes, pays for her phone, pays her travel cost to and from college, pays for her driving and cello lessons and will pay most of her accommodation cost at uni.
He's also helped pay the utility bills if he knows the girls have been at home and had it on all day and I'm not financially strapped.
Sadly some parents are quite happy to shirk their responsibilities, but there are some that don't!"
you should hire him out to give pep talks to errant fathers!!
its good to see that there are some people who dont shirk their responsibilities x |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Lol...I think there are a lot of men like my ex but usually on threads like this the men do get a hard time.
Also a lot of women use their children as a bargaining chip...I never did, never bad mouthed their dad (I did to my friends and sisters though...  ) and I daresay he did the same to me...but never in front of the kids and we maintained a united front for the kids.
Sometimes being nice kind of stuck in my throat... and again he could say the same.
As I've said on other threads like this, our love for our children outweighs any animosity we may feel towards each other, and both of us haven't had to work at it really, we picked each other, we decided to marry and have kids, our responsibility to make sure they grow up happy, supported and loved.
Ours was his second family, he had two boys with someone else before we met and married and his boys were loved and looked after. I got on so well with them I taught them to drive...they preferred going out with me than their dad.
When our eldest was ill his ex bought her brothers to see her in hospital - a good person is a good person. He had a serious relationship and a long marriage with me...that both of us still say he's a good man is testimony to that!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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its when you can be adult in these situations you know you have matured!!
i call kiddos dad for everythin when im with friends etc but never in front of her i dont know later years she might decide she wants to see him and i would rather she made up her own mind about him than have me pollute her mind! x |
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I never called my ex husband to my son and never withheld rights for him to see him. Have to say for what ever reason you split up you always have the kids between you. Women who try and stop the fathers from seeing the children (unless completly legitimate reason) make my blood boil |
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By *emonfemCouple
over a year ago
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my hubby pays £90 wk but within 1 mth he had arreas of £0 to £5000 we got mp involved but the CSA just dnt care he has payed since the day his ex-wife walked out but the shit still goes on he even whent to gp over stress CSA said we dnt care 1 wk we had no money so he foned csa sayin we need food they said we want our money even tho we had a 6mth old and a 2yr old they even said and i quote "we are a law to our selfs and do wot we want "they are a bloody joke best thing to do is get rid of CSA!!! rant over |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Helen had the CSA onto her because of her ex-husband and new girlfriend were not working and thus the CSA looks to off-set what the state gives them.
The shit hit the fan when the CSA stopped paying money to the ex-husband claiming that Helen hadn’t paid them. Well the CSA came unstuck… Helen had receipts for payments into the CSA but they were not handing it over at the other end! Now I’m sure no one needs me to explain about the friction that caused between the two sides!
The name Child Support Agency is total bollocks, it’s a government body that was set up to off-set state support pay-out and nothing more, they do not give a toss about people or children, nor do they care about how much trouble they may cause.
For people not on state support they will act as an agent to try and recover child support funds from an absent parent but you might do better by doing that privately through the courts as the CSA couldn’t organise a bunk-up in a whorehouse!
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the law has changed wef 12 april 2010 in that if the parent with care is on benefits then they can keep ALL child maintenance paid and it does not affect their benefits. Prior to this date the maximum they could receive was 20 quid.....any more than that and their benefit was reduced accordingly.
http://www.csa.gov.uk/en/case/child-maintenance-changing.asp |
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Well as a former employee of the CSA when it was first formed and 1 of the many that resigned from it as i felt it was so wrong i would back the getting shut of the whole thing but then i am biased.
When me and my first wife split i paid every week for the first few months without a court order or anything but she still took me to court for more and was told over 5 court cases that i paid more than they would award her.
Eventually she got the CSA involved and hell what a mess they made of everything and coused mountains of trouble between us.
I ended up paying £978 a month for 1 kid and i think thats far too much if i am honest.
When my lad left college he came to work for me and still the daft sods would not accept that i should not be paying.
Sorry to go on but they make me soooo mad.
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By *xccvvMan
over a year ago
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you should hire him out to give pep talks to errant fathers!!
its good to see that there are some people who dont shirk their responsibilities x
What about the errant mothers ? single father here nearly 7 years still no joy from the CSA, was told as a bloke working full time am not a priority
He could also give a pep talk to the absent mothers lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Oh and before you say how great dads can be, he ain't seen them since Xmas, his choice and the son will not go to his as he will not put up with the violent outbreaks. And yes, it does terrify me that daughter will be 150 miles away if there is yet another one, but she chooses to go and I can't stop that.  |
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By *onny BonesMan
over a year ago
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Can't knock the csa really. They did try to paint me with the absent father routine but kids school was agreat help with evidence advice and contacts. Plus the fact that when they sent an uninvited rep round I was in the middle of changing my youngests nappy, His face when I asked him to put the nappy in the outdoor bin on his way out was a gem! |
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By *adchickCouple
over a year ago
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We don't have a problem with the CSA.
Jason contacted them when his ex started tell everyone that he hadn't paid her (stupid sod never made her sign a receipt), they took it, worked it out and take it straight from his wages. 17% of his net basic which is totally correct and now the silly cow doesn't have a leg to stand on when she starts ranting.
The CSA is now governed by the Inland Revenue and should be getting it right. However, with over 200,000 new claimants every year, they are gonna get some of it wrong.
Just bear with it, go for the sympathy with the person on the other end and CALMLY explain the situation.
If someone has been paying because they are working, they won't demand all of it back and you are quite within your rights to offer £1.00 a week, they will take it if you are on any form of benefits.
I think the CSA have got better....... I personally had them charge my ex, 19 years ago (and I was one of the very first to get a CSA claim) at £90 per week, per child (he's an accountant) and I NEVER saw a penny. He just moved all of his finances to France where he spent 8 months of the year and they gave up.
I could go for back pay, but whats the point. My kids know he never paid a penny and never bothered with them...... it was always mum and they are old enough now to know what he's like.
It's tough sometimes but when they are grown up and have left home, your children do understand and they appreciate you for it. That, as a mother, is the best way of saying thank you that you can get. |
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