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By *pecialized OP   Man  over a year ago

newcastle/northumberland

Hey guys opinions wanted....

i am married (never hide that) and I'm looking for a little extra, and before some jump on here and try and castrate me, i know its wrong, not here to make excuses so if you want one sorry but jog on, right or wrong here i am on a swingers website but very disillusioned that most people on here are looking for a single person.... should this site not be renamed "Fab Dating site", or am i on the wrong track....?

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By *adchickCouple  over a year ago

Cyprus


"Hey guys opinions wanted....

i am married (never hide that) and I'm looking for a little extra, and before some jump on here and try and castrate me, i know its wrong, not here to make excuses so if you want one sorry but jog on, right or wrong here i am on a swingers website but very disillusioned that most people on here are looking for a single person.... should this site not be renamed "Fab Dating site", or am i on the wrong track....? "

Most people on here want single because as swingers, we expect honesty and possibly friendship.

You are neither honest and your friendship would be in question because you are tied to a wife.

It's generally got fuck all to do with dating.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

if you married not my business.

however it is a swingers site first and foremost, that being said... it is often frequented by people who want a quick seedy jump.

but I swing... and I DON'T DATE.

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5

Another poor unhappy married men looking for the easy option

tut!

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By *pecialized OP   Man  over a year ago

newcastle/northumberland

so i'm not honest or friendly because i'm married...

now i am confused

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By *pecialized OP   Man  over a year ago

newcastle/northumberland

never have i said i was unhappy

once again everyone jumping to conclusions

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5

you are probably far from honest to your wife!

as for being friendly, picture the scene, we meet, have coffee, someone you know spots you with me, comes over, SOMEONE that works with your wife.

How bloody friendly would you be in that situation?

Fight ir flight?

hahaha

MEN!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hey guys opinions wanted....

i am married (never hide that) and I'm looking for a little extra, and before some jump on here and try and castrate me, i know its wrong, not here to make excuses so if you want one sorry but jog on, right or wrong here i am on a swingers website but very disillusioned that most people on here are looking for a single person.... should this site not be renamed "Fab Dating site", or am i on the wrong track....? "

You have confused being a swinger - which allows the freedom to have sex with people outside of your marital relationship - with being a cheating, lying , dishonest infidel.

I'd like to fully explain the difference but in your own uncalled for and unfriendly phraseology ...... jog on.

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5


"never have i said i was unhappy

once again everyone jumping to conclusions"

ok

SO IF YOUR NOT UNHAPPY

tell your wife and bring her along, I am bi

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"once again everyone jumping to conclusions"

EVERYONE???

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5


"once again everyone jumping to conclusions

EVERYONE???

"

hahaha

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By *pecialized OP   Man  over a year ago

newcastle/northumberland

hold the boat... swinging is a sex activity am i correct...

i have many female friends and collegues i have coffee with as you put it and if i bump into my wife so be it.. she would probably join us.. do you introduce yourfriends to your family as some one you would like to fuck...? single or attached i would say you dont

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Scratches head and wonders why couples would want to join a dating site

Someone obviously has a bee in his bonnet

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By *adchickCouple  over a year ago

Cyprus


"never have i said i was unhappy

once again everyone jumping to conclusions"

Happily marrieds, don't cheat!

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5


"hold the boat... swinging is a sex activity am i correct...

i have many female friends and collegues i have coffee with as you put it and if i bump into my wife so be it.. she would probably join us.. do you introduce yourfriends to your family as some one you would like to fuck...? single or attached i would say you dont"

well most of my friends know I swing here in town so yes I would actually

Its called oh yes let me think

got it

HONESTY

If you have nothing to hide like I don't, why would I be dishonest

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By *pecialized OP   Man  over a year ago

newcastle/northumberland

wow im turned on

so in that case all you morally correct swingers out there do your family and friends know what you do..... i bet not and why hide your face on pictures...

after all your doing nothing wrong..

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5


"Scratches head and wonders why couples would want to join a dating site

Someone obviously has a bee in his bonnet "

hehe good point there

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By *adchickCouple  over a year ago

Cyprus


"hold the boat... swinging is a sex activity am i correct...

i have many female friends and collegues i have coffee with as you put it and if i bump into my wife so be it.. she would probably join us.. do you introduce yourfriends to your family as some one you would like to fuck...? single or attached i would say you dont"

So you would have coffee with us and if your wife saw us, you would be happy for us to tell her where we met and how intimately we know each other....?

I thought not.

And people on here do hook up sometimes. Singles that meet already have some form of common ground and something to talk about.......

But mostly it's about honesty. Some people WILL swing with marrieds, most won't because as a married and not telling your wife, you are already lying through your back teeth.

Where's the honesty in that?

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By *pecialized OP   Man  over a year ago

newcastle/northumberland

so why do happily marrieds sleep with other people if they are happy, they change the

name to swinging and suddenly its OK really really confuse now

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5


"so why do happily marrieds sleep with other people if they are happy, they change the

name to swinging and suddenly its OK really really confuse now"

ok

married people whom love each other and tell each other everything share themselves with others

Is that what your doing?

I think not

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By *pecialized OP   Man  over a year ago

newcastle/northumberland

exactly

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By *adchickCouple  over a year ago

Cyprus


"wow im turned on

so in that case all you morally correct swingers out there do your family and friends know what you do..... i bet not and why hide your face on pictures...

after all your doing nothing wrong.."

This has nothing to do with morals or what others perceive to be ethically wrong......

YOU married your wife. YOU promised to honour her. YOU are the one cheating.

Not those of us that swing with our partners. We do it within a loving and strong relationship.

You wanna stick your dick into another woman......! If you were screwing your secretary it would be called cheating, if you were shagging your next door neighbour, it would be called cheating....

Do NOT philosophise to us about what is morally right or wrong......

Just because you chose to 'swing', it doesn't make you any less of a cheat! And putting the term 'Swinging' into your cheating is wrong..... soooo very wrong.

And if you don't like the site because people are looking for singles..... go to one of the married and looking for a shag sites.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

does your wife know you on here..

probably no..

so either you are happy with her and just doing the dirty on her..

or it will be the usual married guy bleating pish about ' no one knows what goes on behind closed door' to try and justify their deceit to themselves and everyone else...

quite frankly I dont care if people cheat, if they honest on their profile, folks can make an informed choice to meet...

what gets on my tits is the lack of discretion...

imho... married 'singles' should cheat on here and shut the feck up ...

it is one thing to cheat on the wife/hubby/bf/gf.. it is another to sing from the hilltops and give a running commentary of said deceit.....

my 2p worth.....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"so why do happily marrieds sleep with other people if they are happy, they change the

name to swinging and suddenly its OK really really confuse now"

Marrieds who are swingers do so with BOTH partners in full knowledge.

You have decided to live TWO lives. The one your wife thinks you lead and the one you don't tell her about. It's called being deceitful.

She must be against swinging for you to not discuss it with her. You are betraying any trust she has in you and that is one reason why women on here wont trust you. You already show yourself as a liar and a cheat.

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By *pecialized OP   Man  over a year ago

newcastle/northumberland

maybe in the garden of eden people tell people everything but here on planet earth that doesn't happen and anyone who says it does is not being "honest", as everyone tells lies from time to time

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By *adchickCouple  over a year ago

Cyprus


"so why do happily marrieds sleep with other people if they are happy, they change the

name to swinging and suddenly its OK really really confuse now"

It's called spice and trust and honesty. What WE do is enhance our already fantastic sex life with further spice. WE do it together..... you can tell us we are unhappy but believe me, 99% of the couples on here would give up swinging if their other half didn't want to do it any more.......

Thats called love!

Not what you are doing .......

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By *im53Man  over a year ago

Boldon

as you say this is a swinging site , correct.

this is not a site for cheaters there are other sites for that

the whole point of swinging is the openness with your partner so both can enjoy the fun.

are you open with your partner, I dont think you will be, there for you are a cheater

and make it harder for us genuine single guys,

i dont think it could be a called a date when both the lady and her hubby are at my house and we are all having fun

maybe you are better off checking out

whores to my door . com lol

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By *ouvakMan  over a year ago

clacton on sea

some people just seem to love to put themselves in the front of a firing squad lol.

most of the married people on here swing with the full blessing of their partner's for one reason or the other, just because you have been honest about your marital situation, i'm not so sure your being totally honest about your partner's knowledge of the fact's, thus i fear most people on here will for that reason alone give you a wide birth, plus the fact there are loads of us genuinely free and available males on here for them to choose from, i think the phrase " shooting oneself in the foot" come's to the front here

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By *pecialized OP   Man  over a year ago

newcastle/northumberland

so its ok to be married but want to share intmasy with someone else as long as the person understands yes i love you and tell you everything but i want to fuck her over there, but come back to you wow what a world

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5


"maybe in the garden of eden people tell people everything but here on planet earth that doesn't happen and anyone who says it does is not being "honest", as everyone tells lies from time to time"

your marriage really is in trouble then isn't it

bless

I hope she has at least 10 lovers all better than you!

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By *adchickCouple  over a year ago

Cyprus


"maybe in the garden of eden people tell people everything but here on planet earth that doesn't happen and anyone who says it does is not being "honest", as everyone tells lies from time to time"

Yes, everyone tells lies from time to time. But the lie you are telling has the ability to destroy your wife, children if you have any, family, friends, possibly job and leave your wife humiliated, hurt, deceived, grieving and at the lowest point she can ever reach.

You obviously have no concept of how cheating can destroy a person......

Swinging together doesn't destroy, it enhances

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

You've gone from wanting a casual fuck without your wife knowing (which is wrong in most people's understanding of marriage, but you don't have a problem with it) to tarring us all with your unclean brush simply because we haven't welcomed you with open arms.

You've short shrift on here because you were argumentative in your first post (ie 'jog on'), defensive in every post after that, and downright arrogant in your last post.

You've won no support here so I suggest you follow you own advice.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"so why do happily marrieds sleep with other people if they are happy, they change the

name to swinging and suddenly its OK really really confuse now"

Absolute utter rubbish .... No offence but you have no idea what swinging is about whatsoever. It's not a case of taking the moral highground, but you maybe being honest in telling people that you are married but you are being dishonest to your partner. I don't see what swinging couples keeping it private from their families has to do with it at all. As for couples who play not being happy, quite the contrary, we decided as a couple (together since we were 15) to share our sex life with others and have no jealousy issues, it's about fun and nothing else.

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By *adchickCouple  over a year ago

Cyprus


"so its ok to be married but want to share intmasy with someone else as long as the person understands yes i love you and tell you everything but i want to fuck her over there, but come back to you wow what a world"

You are on the wrong site matey.

You have NO concept of swinging nor are you ever likely to have.

Just because you can sneek off for an hour here and there and get an erection, doesn't make you a swinger....

Mindset does.

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5

please let me call your wife

you can all come here for a 3some, hell I'll even cook for you

pretty please

Is she a brunette, I like them best, especially ones with massive tits?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

married guy here who knows to keep his head down and mouth shut.

discretion is always the best policy.

not the place to bring it onto these forums.

or judge other swingers or daters.

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By *pecialized OP   Man  over a year ago

newcastle/northumberland

"spice" now your winding me up, when your married and don't tell her its cheating but do tell her its "spice"

i wonder how many marriages which are open and trust full as you say end in divorce because one or the other gets jealous and the haven of trustful marriage ends in divorce.. go on be "honest"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

coffee, tea , biscuits anyone....

this could be a long one......

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5


""spice" now your winding me up, when your married and don't tell her its cheating but do tell her its "spice"

i wonder how many marriages which are open and trust full as you say end in divorce because one or the other gets jealous and the haven of trustful marriage ends in divorce.. go on be "honest""

so when can I lick your wifes fanny, you know she wants to

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By *pecialized OP   Man  over a year ago

newcastle/northumberland

got everyone thinking though and its amazing how people are very quick to judge and shoot down.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"got everyone thinking though and its amazing how people are very quick to judge and shoot down."

The only thing most of us are thinking is, "cheesh! here we go again."

Give it up man, you've lost the battle and the war on this one.

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5


"got everyone thinking though and its amazing how people are very quick to judge and shoot down."

SO ANYWAY

when can I fuck your wife, or is she busy getting fucked right now with someone else?

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By *pecialized OP   Man  over a year ago

newcastle/northumberland

"it's about fun and nothing else."

you answered my question then... so it doesn't matterif your married or not...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hey guys opinions wanted....

"

you asked for opinions ........ you got them.... you don't like them

why ask ?

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By *adchickCouple  over a year ago

Cyprus


""spice" now your winding me up, when your married and don't tell her its cheating but do tell her its "spice"

i wonder how many marriages which are open and trust full as you say end in divorce because one or the other gets jealous and the haven of trustful marriage ends in divorce.. go on be "honest""

Now you are clutching at straws and talking absolute twaddle.

I've been swinging 10 years and only know of 1 couple who got divorced and that wasn't because of swinging or cheating.

I know plenty of 'single' men who got caught by the wives and have been taken to the cleaners since!

Do you honestly think couples just 'jump' into swinging? There are hours and hours of chats, discussions, laying down of rules, visiting clubs, other people, not playing or starting with soft swing......

The thrill for most is seeing someone else enjoy your partner but knowing that you take them home at the end of the time to a loving, stable home.

Like I said, you have NO concept of swinging.

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5


"Hey guys opinions wanted....

you asked for opinions ........ you got them.... you don't like them

why ask ?"

cos he dont really want em?

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5


""it's about fun and nothing else."

you answered my question then... so it doesn't matterif your married or not..."

your wife is married to you

let her come here for me to fuck her go on pleeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzz

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"wow im turned on

so in that case all you morally correct swingers out there do your family and friends know what you do..... i bet not and why hide your face on pictures...

after all your doing nothing wrong.."

Yes our friends and family do know and there are a lot on here who's family and friends do know

But just cause ya don't want anyone ta know what do doesn't make ya dishonest

Not tellin ya wife ya swing does xx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hey guys opinions wanted....

you asked for opinions ........ you got them.... you don't like them

why ask ?

cos he dont really want em? "

away to make my tea... there will be another along in a while......

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By *adchickCouple  over a year ago

Cyprus


"got everyone thinking though and its amazing how people are very quick to judge and shoot down."

No, you didn't get anyone thinking.

We see the same old shite, day in and day out from the 'marrieds' and nothing changes.

They try to justify themselves, we shoot them down in flames and they go boo hoo.....

What you did get though, was blocked by half the forumites and they will be telling their friends what a prize pleb you are......so they will block you as well.

Welcome to FAB........! Where people talk!

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By *ayceeCouple  over a year ago

northampton

Sits back and hands cake round....

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By *adchickCouple  over a year ago

Cyprus


"wow im turned on

so in that case all you morally correct swingers out there do your family and friends know what you do..... i bet not and why hide your face on pictures...

after all your doing nothing wrong..

Yes our friends and family do know and there are a lot on here who's family and friends do know

But just cause ya don't want anyone ta know what do doesn't make ya dishonest

Not tellin ya wife ya swing does xx "

Blimey, soapy speaks sense!

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By *pecialized OP   Man  over a year ago

newcastle/northumberland

so letting some strange man cum all over your wife then go home and kiss your kids... mmm yep my mistake that's morally correct lol

anyway gotta go my wife is coming

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Does your wife know your looking for a bit extra.

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5

His wifes already on here

"My husbands too busy fuckng others to notice I even exist"

I fucked her last week, did anyone else?

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5


"so letting some strange man cum all over your wife then go home and kiss your kids... mmm yep my mistake that's morally correct lol

anyway gotta go my wife is coming"

hope she enjoyed her lovers

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I saw a profile yesterday..

2 buddies have a couple profile..

he is cheating on his wife/gf.. and the lady is someone I know..

now nothing wrong with that at all....

except he created the profile..

has face pics of her on.. none of him..

she is a single mum living in the small town..and has no pc and has no idea her pics are on full display

he lives 150 miles away ...and no chance his employers of gf sees them if he did have them on

that is the sad reflection of married cheats I have in my head right now....

hypocrites..

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By *im53Man  over a year ago

Boldon

can i just thank the OP for this thread

just what i needed on a cold sat afternoon

some good entertainment

there is all ways one lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


""spice" now your winding me up, when your married and don't tell her its cheating but do tell her its "spice"

i wonder how many marriages which are open and trust full as you say end in divorce because one or the other gets jealous and the haven of trustful marriage ends in divorce.. go on be "honest""

Ok so would you be ok with your wife swinging with or without you??

Or is it just ok for you?

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By *pecialized OP   Man  over a year ago

newcastle/northumberland

now there is a point two people having an affair but on here as a couple is the feeling the same... but of course everyone will now scream yes,

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5


"now there is a point two people having an affair but on here as a couple is the feeling the same... but of course everyone will now scream yes, "

you are avoiding the answers people are giving you

are you this thoughtless during sex with your wife?

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By *pecialized OP   Man  over a year ago

newcastle/northumberland

in all honesty i have seen my wife with another girl, just softswing mind and wasn't bothered but now we have kids she thinks its wrong

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5


"in all honesty i have seen my wife with another girl, just softswing mind and wasn't bothered but now we have kids she thinks its wrong"

yes it is wrong with underage kids

get a babysitter like everyone else does

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By *pecialized OP   Man  over a year ago

newcastle/northumberland

the answer to that is in my opinion everyone in life is looking for extra be it sex, money lifetyle etc

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By *ouvakMan  over a year ago

clacton on sea

i bet he would be supprised to find out just how many of those of us on this site have families who know what we do, partners who if they don't swing themselves are fully aware that they are swinging, to swing you need three things, HONESTY,RESPECT, and the TRUST of those with whom you intend to share your enjoyment with, unfortunately for you i fear you have lost everyones RESPECT already, and your far from HONEST, because you already state that your partner is unaware what your doing,and you'll never gain anyones TRUST because of the statements you've already made here in the forum's.

so if i'm to be HONEST with you and RESPECT you i TRUST you'll take some good advice and find another avenue to gain what it is your looking for, because i'm uncertain you'll find it here on this site now

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5


"the answer to that is in my opinion everyone in life is looking for extra be it sex, money lifetyle etc"

so how many extra lovers would you like your wife to have?

1

10

100

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By *pecialized OP   Man  over a year ago

newcastle/northumberland

just one you...i know you would sort her

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think its one of the most beautiful sights to see my partner fuck someone else. To see him from another perspective horniest thing for me. At chams last night played with another couple. And had a threesome in round room. Swinging for me is about exploring our sexual needs and variety is the spice of life.But after when we got home a cuddle and fall asleep in each others arms heaven.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Now who is jumping to conclusions

Every one of my family knows I am a swinger

Every one of my friends knows I am a swinger

Without exception

My neighbours know I am a swinger

My employers know I am a swinger

My partner knows I am a swinger

And if you let me have your address so I can go and shag your wife while your out (happily married) and cheating on her she will know I am a swinger

Jog on

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5


"Now who is jumping to conclusions

Every one of my family knows I am a swinger

Every one of my friends knows I am a swinger

Without exception

My neighbours know I am a swinger

My employers know I am a swinger

My partner knows I am a swinger

And if you let me have your address so I can go and shag your wife while your out (happily married) and cheating on her she will know I am a swinger

Jog on"

aw Jed

I wanted the wife

fresh meat and all that jazz

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5


"just one you...i know you would sort her"

hey

I pulled

gimme her number cheers

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By *pecialized OP   Man  over a year ago

newcastle/northumberland

and i utterly respect and commend you on that.. but because all people don't have that, people have fun and whats wrong in that

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5


"and i utterly respect and commend you on that.. but because all people don't have that, people have fun and whats wrong in that"

let me talk to your wife

see if she thinks its wrong

go on mate

gimme her numba

you know ya wanna

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"wow im turned on

so in that case all you morally correct swingers out there do your family and friends know what you do..... i bet not and why hide your face on pictures...

after all your doing nothing wrong..

Yes our friends and family do know and there are a lot on here who's family and friends do know

But just cause ya don't want anyone ta know what do doesn't make ya dishonest

Not tellin ya wife ya swing does xx

Blimey, soapy speaks sense! "

Oi i speaks a lotta sense somtimes lol xx

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By *adchickCouple  over a year ago

Cyprus


"so letting some strange man cum all over your wife then go home and kiss your kids... mmm yep my mistake that's morally correct lol

anyway gotta go my wife is coming"

But you are prepared to cum over another woman and then go home and kiss your wife?????

hypocrite

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5


"wow im turned on

so in that case all you morally correct swingers out there do your family and friends know what you do..... i bet not and why hide your face on pictures...

after all your doing nothing wrong..

Yes our friends and family do know and there are a lot on here who's family and friends do know

But just cause ya don't want anyone ta know what do doesn't make ya dishonest

Not tellin ya wife ya swing does xx

Blimey, soapy speaks sense!

Oi i speaks a lotta sense somtimes lol xx"

you are very wise per square inch xxx

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By *etillanteWoman  over a year ago

.

But funny how guys don't seem to mind to want to shag a married woman on here who has a single profile and who's husband is unaware

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By *adchickCouple  over a year ago

Cyprus


"in all honesty i have seen my wife with another girl, just softswing mind and wasn't bothered but now we have kids she thinks its wrong"

So it's her fault cus she started it?

Grow up .....

If she thinks it's wrong, respect HER wishes or ship out.

And don't use the 'I've got kids' line.... kids are far better off without a cheating scumbag for a father!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"But funny how guys don't seem to mind to want to shag a married woman on here who has a single profile and who's husband is unaware"

Yep difference there hun is they dont go puttin threads up about it pmsl xx

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By *adchickCouple  over a year ago

Cyprus


"But funny how guys don't seem to mind to want to shag a married woman on here who has a single profile and who's husband is unaware"

We treat ALL cheaters with the same contempt!

As do most others. But as it's normally single men who are dealing with the cheating females, the rules get bent in their favour.

Sad fact of life.

Cheating is cheating and it has NO place in swinging.

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5


"But funny how guys don't seem to mind to want to shag a married woman on here who has a single profile and who's husband is unaware"

a lot of people do mind that too

hell

1 of them is his wife probly

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Wow this guy has some weired perspectives on swinging lol xxx

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By *pecialized OP   Man  over a year ago

newcastle/northumberland

hey thought this was a place to discuss and not be judged but guess i'm wrong..

but good advise soapy

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5


"hey thought this was a place to discuss and not be judged but guess i'm wrong..

but good advise soapy"

so anyways

when can I have her numba

I'm doing an under 25's gangbang soon

she can come

but your too old

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"hey thought this was a place to discuss and not be judged but guess i'm wrong..

but good advise soapy"

I actually read ya as judging us who share our hobby with our partners/wives but saying its ok ta cheat i may have ya wrong but then again xx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

and the couples who do shag the 'married singles'.. either male or female... will no doubt be so accepting of their partners deceit if they ever cheat behind their back ........... NOT FUCKING LIKELY...thats the hypocrisy.

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By *imfromGlasgowMan  over a year ago

er...guess


"

You have confused being a swinger - which allows the freedom to have sex with people outside of your marital relationship - with being a cheating, lying , dishonest infidel.

............. "

I'd like to stand up for infidels everywhere.

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By *pecialized OP   Man  over a year ago

newcastle/northumberland

ive never judged anyone fella, i always say and always will "each to there own" and we are here for a good time not a long time. but everyone was very quick to jump on the band wagon and start slating which everyone has over looked was the point i was making

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By *etillanteWoman  over a year ago

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"and the couples who do shag the 'married singles'.. either male or female... will no doubt be so accepting of their partners deceit if they ever cheat behind their back ........... NOT FUCKING LIKELY...thats the hypocrisy. "

I live my life, my husband his. I know two wrongs do not make a right.

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5


"ive never judged anyone fella, i always say and always will "each to there own" and we are here for a good time not a long time. but everyone was very quick to jump on the band wagon and start slating which everyone has over looked was the point i was making"

I just want your wife here for my ikkle gangbang

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By *adchickCouple  over a year ago

Cyprus


"ive never judged anyone fella, "

Wrong.......

Read your posts. You were judging the marrieds who swing with your warped ideas of what a happy swinging relationship is.

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By *pecialized OP   Man  over a year ago

newcastle/northumberland

your issues are deeper than my opinions i fear as you dust protest too much

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5


"your issues are deeper than my opinions i fear as you dust protest too much"

so anywys

gimme her number pretty please

just a ikkle gangbang

you can babysit

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By *adchickCouple  over a year ago

Cyprus


"your issues are deeper than my opinions i fear as you dust protest too much"

I have to say, thats given me the best laugh today.

You really have NO idea do you!

And it's ... douth... not dust.

If you can't string a good argument together, at least get the quotations correct!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"ive never judged anyone fella, i always say and always will "each to there own" and we are here for a good time not a long time. but everyone was very quick to jump on the band wagon and start slating which everyone has over looked was the point i was making"

Yeah ok i kinda see ya point

You said that most people were looking for completely single people

Do you know why that is????

Cause swinging is fun between consenting adults who have nothing to hide

What we dont fancy is some irate wife/girlfriend knocking on the door at all hours or givin crap down the phone when they find the site or addresses and believe you me it WILL happen eventually

Basically most swingers are protecting their own peace xx

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By *adchickCouple  over a year ago

Cyprus


"your issues are deeper than my opinions i fear as you dust protest too much

so anywys

gimme her number pretty please

just a ikkle gangbang

you can babysit"

You wouldn't want her Evie........ after he's been dipping his wick left right and centre, she's second hand goods!

**OOhhhh that was a tad evil **

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5

maddie

I'll show her what REAL sex is tho

and honesty

and respect

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"coffee, tea , biscuits anyone....

this could be a long one...... "

Could I have the Hob Nob Dear ?

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By *adchickCouple  over a year ago

Cyprus


"maddie

I'll show her what REAL sex is tho

and honesty

and respect"

And you probably get a better erection than he does......

I've seen you with a strap on!

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By *imfromGlasgowMan  over a year ago

er...guess


"your issues are deeper than my opinions i fear as you dust protest too much

I have to say, thats given me the best laugh today.

You really have NO idea do you!

And it's ... douth... not dust.

If you can't string a good argument together, at least get the quotations correct!"

It's ... doth ...

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By *adchickCouple  over a year ago

Cyprus


"coffee, tea , biscuits anyone....

this could be a long one......

Could I have the Hob Nob Dear ?"

No..... they are mine cus I'm allergic to the choccie ones!

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By *adchickCouple  over a year ago

Cyprus


"your issues are deeper than my opinions i fear as you dust protest too much

I have to say, thats given me the best laugh today.

You really have NO idea do you!

And it's ... douth... not dust.

If you can't string a good argument together, at least get the quotations correct!

It's ... doth ... "

Bollox............

hehehhehehehhehehhehe

At least only the spelling was shite in my case!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Sits back and hands cake round.... "

Ooooooo lemon drizzle .....lovely!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"your issues are deeper than my opinions i fear as you dust protest too much

I have to say, thats given me the best laugh today.

You really have NO idea do you!

And it's ... douth... not dust.

If you can't string a good argument together, at least get the quotations correct!"

no perhaps he really did mean you dust too much haha

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5


"your issues are deeper than my opinions i fear as you dust protest too much

I have to say, thats given me the best laugh today.

You really have NO idea do you!

And it's ... douth... not dust.

If you can't string a good argument together, at least get the quotations correct!

no perhaps he really did mean you dust too much haha"

hahaha

you lot in here are THE BEST EVER

group hug

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"your issues are deeper than my opinions i fear as you dust protest too much

I have to say, thats given me the best laugh today.

You really have NO idea do you!

And it's ... douth... not dust.

If you can't string a good argument together, at least get the quotations correct!

no perhaps he really did mean you dust too much haha

hahaha

you lot in here are THE BEST EVER

group hug "

mind you dont knock the sparkles off me tits with ya feather duster in that group hug girl

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By *im53Man  over a year ago

Boldon


"coffee, tea , biscuits anyone....

this could be a long one......

Could I have the Hob Nob Dear ?"

got the chocy ones here help your self

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5


"your issues are deeper than my opinions i fear as you dust protest too much

I have to say, thats given me the best laugh today.

You really have NO idea do you!

And it's ... douth... not dust.

If you can't string a good argument together, at least get the quotations correct!

no perhaps he really did mean you dust too much haha

hahaha

you lot in here are THE BEST EVER

group hug

mind you dont knock the sparkles off me tits with ya feather duster in that group hug girl"

I might and then steal them hahaha

laughts real eveil like

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

You have confused being a swinger - which allows the freedom to have sex with people outside of your marital relationship - with being a cheating, lying , dishonest infidel.

.............

I'd like to stand up for infidels everywhere. "

All fours is good too!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"your issues are deeper than my opinions i fear as you dust protest too much

I have to say, thats given me the best laugh today.

You really have NO idea do you!

And it's ... douth... not dust.

If you can't string a good argument together, at least get the quotations correct!

It's ... doth ...

Bollox............

hehehhehehehhehehhehe

At least only the spelling was shite in my case! "

ah fook and i have been spelling bollix all this time. mind due at least i can say its the singular as fatprick only has one

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By *etillanteWoman  over a year ago

.


"your issues are deeper than my opinions i fear as you dust protest too much

I have to say, thats given me the best laugh today.

You really have NO idea do you!

And it's ... douth... not dust.

If you can't string a good argument together, at least get the quotations correct!

It's ... doth ...

Bollox............

hehehhehehehhehehhehe

At least only the spelling was shite in my case!

ah fook and i have been spelling bollix all this time. mind due at least i can say its the singular as fatprick only has one"

Perhaps they need to provide us with a spellchecker

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"so i'm not honest or friendly because i'm married...

now i am confused"

true swingers tell their spouses that they are swinging. Obviously if you lie to your wife, you could lie to other swingers. If you just looking for extra fucks pick the ladies up in pubs and clubs, swingers whethr single or married we are on the whole honest with everyone

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By *imfromGlasgowMan  over a year ago

er...guess


"

You have confused being a swinger - which allows the freedom to have sex with people outside of your marital relationship - with being a cheating, lying , dishonest infidel.

.............

I'd like to stand up for infidels everywhere.

All fours is good too!"

From my perspective that's one situation where it's better to give than to receive

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

You have confused being a swinger - which allows the freedom to have sex with people outside of your marital relationship - with being a cheating, lying , dishonest infidel.

.............

I'd like to stand up for infidels everywhere.

All fours is good too!

From my perspective that's one situation where it's better to give than to receive "

ah schucks jim and there was me with me strap on ready to take u

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Wow! Tough crowd, harsh comments and you'd be forgiven for thinking this was the Mary Whitehouse Appreciation Society!! That said the OP has some strange ideas about swinging. There are sites geared to people seeking marital affairs. You can get laid without the sermons with like minded people. Good luck.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

You have confused being a swinger - which allows the freedom to have sex with people outside of your marital relationship - with being a cheating, lying , dishonest infidel.

.............

I'd like to stand up for infidels everywhere.

All fours is good too!

From my perspective that's one situation where it's better to give than to receive

ah schucks jim and there was me with me strap on ready to take u"

Me next Mmmmm xxx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

You have confused being a swinger - which allows the freedom to have sex with people outside of your marital relationship - with being a cheating, lying , dishonest infidel.

.............

I'd like to stand up for infidels everywhere.

All fours is good too!

From my perspective that's one situation where it's better to give than to receive

ah schucks jim and there was me with me strap on ready to take u

Me next Mmmmm xxx "

knew that would bring back memories for ya

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

knew that would bring back memories for ya"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"wow im turned on

so in that case all you morally correct swingers out there do your family and friends know what you do..... i bet not and why hide your face on pictures...

after all your doing nothing wrong.."

Yes, family, friends, even our loyal vanilla customers in our pub know we are swingers.

Why hide it? there is nothing wrong with what we do.

You on the other hand cant tell your wife and be HONEST because you are a liar and a cheat.

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By *imfromGlasgowMan  over a year ago

er...guess


"

You have confused being a swinger - which allows the freedom to have sex with people outside of your marital relationship - with being a cheating, lying , dishonest infidel.

.............

I'd like to stand up for infidels everywhere.

All fours is good too!

From my perspective that's one situation where it's better to give than to receive

ah schucks jim and there was me with me strap on ready to take u"

Not if your life depended on it. Not even if MY life depended on it.

You recall the 'best sized cock for anal' thread? My immediate reaction was 'one that's a yard shorter than the distance the cock is from my bottom'

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

right am having a go at being serious. ok the op is saying the stuff about singles. well i dont really understand singles looking for singles. never really see that as swinging myself, unless they are going to swingle with others at same time.

also the op is being up front about being married. ok he isnt telling his wife but he is telling people on here giving everyone the chance to move on if its not what they want. at the end of the day, how do we know who is married and who isnt. who is to know when you get with someone what status they are.

i say each to their own and not to be judgemental on others.

pussy now back to being a stupid pain in the arse....strap on at the ready

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Somewhere along the line, the OP mentioned that everyone had missed his orignal point, so I'll attempt to answer it.

No this site should not be renamed 'Fab Dating Site' because it is not a dating site, it is a swinging site.

A handful of people may treat it as a dating site or a quick shag site, but those handful of people are a waste of air, so we won't worry about them, cheating low lifes included.

Hope this answers your orignal point OP ?

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5

swinging can be a quick shag too x x x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"swinging can be a quick shag too x x x "

Tis with me pmsl xx

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5


"swinging can be a quick shag too x x x

Tis with me pmsl xx "

me too tee hee

sod them

fancy a quick shag?

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By *thwalescplCouple  over a year ago

brecon


"so letting some strange man cum all over your wife then go home and kiss your kids... mmm yep my mistake that's morally correct lol

anyway gotta go my wife is coming"

No strange man is coming to my home to kiss my kids!!!

Anyone else see the irony in the last bit lol?

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By *im53Man  over a year ago

Boldon

more drinks and hob nobs any one

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"more drinks and hob nobs any one"

Ooooo white no sugar and did someone mention chocolate Hob Nobs or was I day dreaming xxx Raz xxx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Another poor unhappy married men looking for the easy option

tut! "

Thats what I though

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

asda delivered my shopping... all put away in cupboards.. chinese delivery ordered for tea.. walked dogs ...

and this still going on..

yu folks have staying power.....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

*ears prick up* Hob nobs? yummy!

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5


"asda delivered my shopping... all put away in cupboards.. chinese delivery ordered for tea.. walked dogs ...

and this still going on..

yu folks have staying power....."

it's all a wicked rumour

ok maybe I can fuck for ages

or did you mean fight

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

ok maybe I can fuck for ages

or did you mean fight"

whatever floats yur boat is cool with me

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By *adchickCouple  over a year ago

Cyprus


"your issues are deeper than my opinions i fear as you dust protest too much

I have to say, thats given me the best laugh today.

You really have NO idea do you!

And it's ... douth... not dust.

If you can't string a good argument together, at least get the quotations correct!

no perhaps he really did mean you dust too much haha"

I fucking do now.......

I fired the cleaner!

**it was a moment of insanity I tell you....**

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago
Forum Mod

Ive ruined my potatoes spending time reading this thread

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5


"Ive ruined my potatoes spending time reading this thread "

and I have a date with his wife too psml

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

I fucking do now.......

I fired the cleaner!

**it was a moment of insanity I tell you....**"

So if we came an checked ya recent google searches they would be

How ta dust

.

Dysons guide to vacuuming

.

The dummies guide ta dishwashing

.

And how ta iron properly

pmsl xxx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ive ruined my potatoes spending time reading this thread "

Stay where you are, I'll go check your dumplings

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By *adchickCouple  over a year ago

Cyprus


"Ive ruined my potatoes spending time reading this thread "

Saturday is take-away night blondie......

I keep telling you that.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ive ruined my potatoes spending time reading this thread "

If you want you can borrow my spuds

Arc

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If there weren't single people on a site like this couples looking for single bi men for threesome, single bi fem, single black guy etc would be gutted I'm sure. After 28 years of marriage I'm not looking for a partner I'm looking to explore and play with like minded people. I don't think anyone has the right to dictate who should play on this site or not!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"*ears prick up* Hob nobs? yummy! "

Always have a supply of Milk Choc Hob Nobs here Honey xxx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

You really have stirred up a hornets nest mate,

good luck with trying to win your argument,

1 man versus soooooooo many women,

Think we know the end score

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5


"If there weren't single people on a site like this couples looking for single bi men for threesome, single bi fem, single black guy etc would be gutted I'm sure. After 28 years of marriage I'm not looking for a partner I'm looking to explore and play with like minded people. I don't think anyone has the right to dictate who should play on this site or not!"

I tell ya what chick

some cpls have real issues with us single ladies having more fun than they do thats for sure xxx

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5


"Ive ruined my potatoes spending time reading this thread

Saturday is take-away night blondie......

I keep telling you that. "

covers myself in sweet n sour sauce, throws myself in the forums, and hopes for the best

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman  over a year ago

little house on the praire


"Ive ruined my potatoes spending time reading this thread "

Ha ha i put jacket spud in when i first started it must be cooked by now

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ive ruined my potatoes spending time reading this thread

Ha ha i put jacket spud in when i first started it must be cooked by now"

Hopes ya burnt it xx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"*ears prick up* Hob nobs? yummy!

Always have a supply of Milk Choc Hob Nobs here Honey xxx"

You do babes? right we're on our way to hob nob heaven xxx

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman  over a year ago

little house on the praire


"Ive ruined my potatoes spending time reading this thread

Ha ha i put jacket spud in when i first started it must be cooked by now

Hopes ya burnt it xx "

Whats Les doing letting you out your box at this time of day lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

So we've pretty much covered everything to do with cheats, swingles, singles & prats. We've come full circle and nothing resolved, he still thinks he's in the right. End of discussion I think.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So we've pretty much covered everything to do with cheats, swingles, singles & prats. We've come full circle and nothing resolved, he still thinks he's in the right. End of discussion I think."

Well said wishy person lol xxx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So we've pretty much covered everything to do with cheats, swingles, singles & prats. We've come full circle and nothing resolved, he still thinks he's in the right. End of discussion I think."

Yep until the next time lol xx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

everyone uses such sites for their own reasons, some dont even want to meet they just like to watch cams, i think so long as your honest about what your after, what you do is nothing to do with anyone else, i personally wouldnt meet a guy playing away but i also wouldnt say....fuck off to the married and cheating sites.....like a lot of people do, who is to decide whos a swinger and who isnt? im a single fem so should i also not be on here because i have noone to throw my car keys into a pot with? lol

Swinging has changed so much over the years and we have to run to keep up with the changes, swinging is a act, its a life style not a home circumstance, if two married people couple up to swing, as far as swinging goes how does that make them any different to a married couple? what happens in their private life, once they have closed their front door had nothing to do with swinging

theres no such thing as a perfect swinging and theres also no need to be rude and abusive to single guys who are playing away, im sure they dont care about what we think, so why waste your time telling them, they may be being honest to the wrong person but at least they are letting us know, if people keep being nasty to such men all thats going to happen is they will claim to be single and then you could end up playing with the very person you dont want on here

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"*ears prick up* Hob nobs? yummy!

Always have a supply of Milk Choc Hob Nobs here Honey xxx

You do babes? right we're on our way to hob nob heaven xxx"

Well Furry is here most weekends xxx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Its funny as I see the same arguments about smoking things one shouldnt by people who do. Swinging to me is about being open and honest with the person you are with. Married men and single people are not in my humble opinion and that includes me by the way swinging. We are part of a swinging community but really on the edges of what is really a couple thing who may or may not be married.

I am not going to have a go at the OP as he has been up front but as a single woman I will chat to any married men but never meet as I actually would feel far to guilty about the wife and have told that to more than one man. Do good luck OP but I think you are just looking for an intellectual debate here which has been used by many over the years to make themselves feel okay about what they do.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I had been a cheater, caused my own marriage to break up, as well as my late partner's.

Hence I do not wish to be involved with another married man or those in a significant relationship, as I do not wish to be cited as a homebreaker ever again.

What happened, happened, for whatever reasons. I am not proud of what I have done, however, I have no regrets either.

At the time, I know cheating was wrong, however, my heart ruled over my head, and that was it.

I have never tried to justify my actions by blaming on external factors. I alone was responsible for my own actions.

This is not a relationship site, nor one for peeps looking for a guiltless quick shag.

The majority of people on this site are very open and honest about themselves.

Couples being loving couples who play together, and singles are very open about having multiple playmates.

Trying to plug the sympathy string and play sour notes when one does not get any sympathy is not going to win any fans in here.

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By *leasureDomeMan  over a year ago

all over the place


"Its funny as I see the same arguments about smoking things one shouldnt by people who do. Swinging to me is about being open and honest with the person you are with. Married men and single people are not in my humble opinion and that includes me by the way swinging. We are part of a swinging community but really on the edges of what is really a couple thing who may or may not be married.

I am not going to have a go at the OP as he has been up front but as a single woman I will chat to any married men but never meet as I actually would feel far to guilty about the wife and have told that to more than one man. Do good luck OP but I think you are just looking for an intellectual debate here which has been used by many over the years to make themselves feel okay about what they do. "

In principle, my partner and I would not knowingly date a married person if we felt there was decpetion going on mainly because we would not want to be part of any potential heartache. However, we both feel quite strongly that nobody has the right to judge anybody as nobody knows the other person's circumstances. An old Indian saying states... "Dont judge a man until you have walked a mile in his mocassins"

It is so easy to make assumptions about people's motives... and so often so very misguided.

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By *adchickCouple  over a year ago

Cyprus


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I have never tried to justify my actions by blaming on external factors. I alone was responsible for my own actions.

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And that is what distinguises you from the rest hun...... you have learnt by your mistakes and you never tried to blame anyone but yourself.

You have never tried to gain sympathyand you never tried to justify your actions.....

You alone were responsible and you alone took responsibility.

A lesson learnt the hard way but nevertheless....... a lesson learnt

We luvs ya babe and you know it!

xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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By *etillanteWoman  over a year ago

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"I had been a cheater, caused my own marriage to break up, as well as my late partner's.

Hence I do not wish to be involved with another married man or those in a significant relationship, as I do not wish to be cited as a homebreaker ever again.

What happened, happened, for whatever reasons. I am not proud of what I have done, however, I have no regrets either.

At the time, I know cheating was wrong, however, my heart ruled over my head, and that was it.

I have never tried to justify my actions by blaming on external factors. I alone was responsible for my own actions.

This is not a relationship site, nor one for peeps looking for a guiltless quick shag.

The majority of people on this site are very open and honest about themselves.

Couples being loving couples who play together, and singles are very open about having multiple playmates.

Trying to plug the sympathy string and play sour notes when one does not get any sympathy is not going to win any fans in here. "

Bless you

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

I have never tried to justify my actions by blaming on external factors. I alone was responsible for my own actions.

And that is what distinguises you from the rest hun...... you have learnt by your mistakes and you never tried to blame anyone but yourself.

You have never tried to gain sympathyand you never tried to justify your actions.....

You alone were responsible and you alone took responsibility.

A lesson learnt the hard way but nevertheless....... a lesson learnt

We luvs ya babe and you know it!

xxxxxxxxxxxxxx"

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Awwwww, that's very nice of you, and yes, I really appreciate everyone's welcome and support since I joined this site!

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By *etillanteWoman  over a year ago

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"

I have never tried to justify my actions by blaming on external factors. I alone was responsible for my own actions.

And that is what distinguises you from the rest hun...... you have learnt by your mistakes and you never tried to blame anyone but yourself.

You have never tried to gain sympathyand you never tried to justify your actions.....

You alone were responsible and you alone took responsibility.

A lesson learnt the hard way but nevertheless....... a lesson learnt

We luvs ya babe and you know it!

xxxxxxxxxxxxxx"

I know it not possible to go into everyones reasons, but other people do have their own stories and circumstances

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

No doesnt wash sorry but as I said my humble opinion. I will judge for myself not for others. I have been married and could have cheated endless times but decided instead to end the marraige as I knew that I wanted to be single. When men say women gone off sex and they need stimulation but still love the wife then I think there are other things they should be doing eg councelling etc but who am I to say...... I am a woman But I dont agree with women cheating either so I am as bad in my judgements there.

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)  over a year ago

birmingham


" I am not proud of what I have done, however, I have no regrets either.

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There is a very fine line between opinions and judgemental, we can't stop the world talking, so, let other's have their opinion, but don't allow ANYONE to be judgemental (Knowing you, I'm sure you won't) xxx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Bless you "

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Thank you!

BTW, I did feel very wrong venturing into adult chatrooms when I was married, and arranged to meet 2 married men on separate occassions. Both turned out to be no shows, chickened out at the last minute.

And I felt very wrong for being so desparate to sink that low, and I stopped going to chatrooms.

I met my late partner not long after that.

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By *etillanteWoman  over a year ago

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In principle, my partner and I would not knowingly date a married person if we felt there was decpetion going on mainly because we would not want to be part of any potential heartache. However, we both feel quite strongly that nobody has the right to judge anybody as nobody knows the other person's circumstances. An old Indian saying states... "Dont judge a man until you have walked a mile in his mocassins"

It is so easy to make assumptions about people's motives... and so often so very misguided."

Life can be cruel and lead you into situations that you normally would not consider.

Decisions in life can be hard, but so is life

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I know it not possible to go into everyones reasons, but other people do have their own stories and circumstances"

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I agree. Since I have been there myself and got the T-shirt, I now put myself in the other person's shoes first, and am much less judgemental when it comes to relationship matters.

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By *adchickCouple  over a year ago

Cyprus

I have no time for cheaters.

But what I hate most of all is those that try to blame circumstances.

Pearl did not try to justify her actions, nor did she blame anyone else except herself!

She took responsibility for what she did and she has to live with that. I don't agree with what she did but at least she only blamed the one person she should have blamed...... herself.

But also what she didn't do was come on here boo hooing cus no one wanted to meet her because she was cheating. She did what she did herself and other than the man she cheated with, she didn't bring anyone else into her 'mess'

There is alot to be said for dignity and knowing when to keep ya trap shut!

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5

I don't judge the man either

I feel he is the lowest though

He is the one who has made vows not me

He promised to be faithful not me

He lies to his wife not me

I dont like liars and have simply been on the receiving end of too many online

I've had the fone calls from the wife

I dont want it again

I dont know him enough to care about his life

But when I found out my best friend was having an affair, I told her husband

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"I have no time for cheaters.

But what I hate most of all is those that try to blame circumstances.

Pearl did not try to justify her actions, nor did she blame anyone else except herself!

She took responsibility for what she did and she has to live with that. I don't agree with what she did but at least she only blamed the one person she should have blamed...... herself.

But also what she didn't do was come on here boo hooing cus no one wanted to meet her because she was cheating. She did what she did herself and other than the man she cheated with, she didn't bring anyone else into her 'mess'

There is alot to be said for dignity and knowing when to keep ya trap shut!

I like your style mad chick and opinion on this one. Cant we at least be honest in a swinging site of nowhere else? I like what Pearl says as the only difference between me and Pear; is I got out first and then met a guy 6 months later. "

dam Pearl NOT Pear

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

That was my comments above - spelling is getting bad as mulled wine is kicking in

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I was mistaken to say I did not have any regrets, I do have one, and that's for hurting my ex-hubby for doing nothing wrong except for not providing the fireworks I sought.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I was mistaken to say I did not have any regrets, I do have one, and that's for hurting my ex-hubby for doing nothing wrong except for not providing the fireworks I sought. "

Humility at its finest xxx

Pearl you are a lady xx

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By *leasureDomeMan  over a year ago

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"I know it not possible to go into everyones reasons, but other people do have their own stories and circumstances

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I agree. Since I have been there myself and got the T-shirt, I now put myself in the other person's shoes first, and am much less judgemental when it comes to relationship matters. "

A balanced post and thus a helpful one.

There is a fine line between having one's own ethical stance and trying to impose it on others - live and let live and above all... Dont judge what you dont fully understand as you may not have all the background information ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I was mistaken to say I did not have any regrets, I do have one, and that's for hurting my ex-hubby for doing nothing wrong except for not providing the fireworks I sought. "

Well its Saturday night Pearl and thats a long time ago so blow that one away and enjoy knowing that everything has moved on now.

We need a fireworks party hopefully dont have to wait till November

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I tried bringing fireworks into our sexlife,

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but the sparklers set the duvet on fire

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I know it not possible to go into everyones reasons, but other people do have their own stories and circumstances

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I agree. Since I have been there myself and got the T-shirt, I now put myself in the other person's shoes first, and am much less judgemental when it comes to relationship matters.

A balanced post and thus a helpful one.

There is a fine line between having one's own ethical stance and trying to impose it on others - live and let live and above all... Dont judge what you dont fully understand as you may not have all the background information ? "

But what is the background information? There is only so many reasons that can be catergorised. Lets just get real here. If men or women want to have sex with other people they will but please dont dress it up

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By *adchickCouple  over a year ago

Cyprus


"I have no time for cheaters.

But what I hate most of all is those that try to blame circumstances.

Pearl did not try to justify her actions, nor did she blame anyone else except herself!

She took responsibility for what she did and she has to live with that. I don't agree with what she did but at least she only blamed the one person she should have blamed...... herself.

But also what she didn't do was come on here boo hooing cus no one wanted to meet her because she was cheating. She did what she did herself and other than the man she cheated with, she didn't bring anyone else into her 'mess'

There is alot to be said for dignity and knowing when to keep ya trap shut!

I like your style mad chick and opinion on this one. Cant we at least be honest in a swinging site of nowhere else? I like what Pearl says as the only difference between me and Pear; is I got out first and then met a guy 6 months later. dam Pearl NOT Pear "

I was cheated on by a man I thought was my world....... no one will ever ever know how I felt or what I went through in those dark dark days.......

If he'd ever just said sorry and not tried to blame me, maybe I wouldn't have felt so humiliated, low and lonely.

Suicide crossed my mind until I looked at my kids and realised no man was worth that kind of pain.

Unfortunately, until you have been cheated on, you have no idea just how devastating it is and just how your world collapses.

I do wish he'd ended the relationship rather than what he did, because I'd have kept my sanity a bit longer.

But cheaters do not care what the victim will be going through, until it's too late!

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By *etillanteWoman  over a year ago

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"I have no time for cheaters.

But what I hate most of all is those that try to blame circumstances.

Pearl did not try to justify her actions, nor did she blame anyone else except herself!

She took responsibility for what she did and she has to live with that. I don't agree with what she did but at least she only blamed the one person she should have blamed...... herself.

But also what she didn't do was come on here boo hooing cus no one wanted to meet her because she was cheating. She did what she did herself and other than the man she cheated with, she didn't bring anyone else into her 'mess'

There is alot to be said for dignity and knowing when to keep ya trap shut!

I like your style mad chick and opinion on this one. Cant we at least be honest in a swinging site of nowhere else? I like what Pearl says as the only difference between me and Pear; is I got out first and then met a guy 6 months later. dam Pearl NOT Pear

I was cheated on by a man I thought was my world....... no one will ever ever know how I felt or what I went through in those dark dark days.......

If he'd ever just said sorry and not tried to blame me, maybe I wouldn't have felt so humiliated, low and lonely.

Suicide crossed my mind until I looked at my kids and realised no man was worth that kind of pain.

Unfortunately, until you have been cheated on, you have no idea just how devastating it is and just how your world collapses.

I do wish he'd ended the relationship rather than what he did, because I'd have kept my sanity a bit longer.

But cheaters do not care what the victim will be going through, until it's too late!"

You can be cheated on in other ways, not just by someone having sex with another person.

Life can sometimes cheat you out of other things and because of that you seek somethong that can make you a person, wanted.

As I have said do not judge, because someone hurt you

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It's very easy to sit in one's ivory tower throwing rocks at the lesser mortals scrambling around below but those heady heights are quite isolating at times and one doesn't sometimes see the fuller picture of what's happening far down below. One just sees outlines and silhouettes.

I think it's fair to say that we all shuffle through life hoping that we don't end up spending it alone. I think that's probably the first & foremost hope that we have as individuals. We see other people blissfully happy in love and, well, that's a piece of the pie we so desperately want to taste - and sometimes we think we've found that ONE person who can provide it. We make our decisions based upon our lives as they are at that moment in time and pray that it's enough. Often it isn't and what started out as THE big love affair soon gets replaced by feelings of resentment, isolation within a relationship (which is awful, been there, got the t-shirt) and a huge sense of loss.

What do we do?

Get out?

Stay?

One mistake followed by another?

It's not difficult to see how people get confused when faced with this particular fork in the road. It far, far easier to stay on the road you're on but take a little detour every now and then, or you could open the map out for your partner to see and point out where you're going and where you think he/she is going - if the two destinations aren't the same - it's time to go your separate ways.

The one thing you oew yourself though is to be honest with yourself. If you don't trust YOU, how can anyone else trust you. If you don't know who you are you can never be the person you want to be.

If you're sincere about your situation then people will pick up on that and give you guidance but if you're blase and flippant you tend to get rebuke where you ask for compassion.

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)  over a year ago

birmingham


"I have no time for cheaters.

But what I hate most of all is those that try to blame circumstances.

Pearl did not try to justify her actions, nor did she blame anyone else except herself!

She took responsibility for what she did and she has to live with that. I don't agree with what she did but at least she only blamed the one person she should have blamed...... herself.

But also what she didn't do was come on here boo hooing cus no one wanted to meet her because she was cheating. She did what she did herself and other than the man she cheated with, she didn't bring anyone else into her 'mess'

There is alot to be said for dignity and knowing when to keep ya trap shut!

I like your style mad chick and opinion on this one. Cant we at least be honest in a swinging site of nowhere else? I like what Pearl says as the only difference between me and Pear; is I got out first and then met a guy 6 months later. dam Pearl NOT Pear

I was cheated on by a man I thought was my world....... no one will ever ever know how I felt or what I went through in those dark dark days.......

If he'd ever just said sorry and not tried to blame me, maybe I wouldn't have felt so humiliated, low and lonely.

Suicide crossed my mind until I looked at my kids and realised no man was worth that kind of pain.

Unfortunately, until you have been cheated on, you have no idea just how devastating it is and just how your world collapses.

I do wish he'd ended the relationship rather than what he did, because I'd have kept my sanity a bit longer.

But cheaters do not care what the victim will be going through, until it's too late!"

Sometime's words are not enough just wanted to give you a {{{{{_adchick}}}}} xxxx

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By *etillanteWoman  over a year ago

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"But what is the background information? There is only so many reasons that can be catergorised. Lets just get real here. If men or women want to have sex with other people they will but please dont dress it up "

Exactly

do not take the moral ground until you have the background information

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By *leasureDomeMan  over a year ago

all over the place


"I know it not possible to go into everyones reasons, but other people do have their own stories and circumstances

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I agree. Since I have been there myself and got the T-shirt, I now put myself in the other person's shoes first, and am much less judgemental when it comes to relationship matters.

A balanced post and thus a helpful one.

There is a fine line between having one's own ethical stance and trying to impose it on others - live and let live and above all... Dont judge what you dont fully understand as you may not have all the background information ?

But what is the background information? There is only so many reasons that can be catergorised. Lets just get real here. If men or women want to have sex with other people they will but please dont dress it up "

It is not a matter of dressing anything up. Imagine a situation where one's partner is unable for medical reasons to have an intimate relationship, for example through a progressive terminal illness - would you really have the moral highground tell the "cheating" other party that they have no right to have their needs met? Leaving the sick partner is not an option for there is genuine care and affection between them. My partner and I, luckily do not see the world quite in black and white.

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By *adchickCouple  over a year ago

Cyprus


"I have no time for cheaters.

But what I hate most of all is those that try to blame circumstances.

Pearl did not try to justify her actions, nor did she blame anyone else except herself!

She took responsibility for what she did and she has to live with that. I don't agree with what she did but at least she only blamed the one person she should have blamed...... herself.

But also what she didn't do was come on here boo hooing cus no one wanted to meet her because she was cheating. She did what she did herself and other than the man she cheated with, she didn't bring anyone else into her 'mess'

There is alot to be said for dignity and knowing when to keep ya trap shut!

I like your style mad chick and opinion on this one. Cant we at least be honest in a swinging site of nowhere else? I like what Pearl says as the only difference between me and Pear; is I got out first and then met a guy 6 months later. dam Pearl NOT Pear

I was cheated on by a man I thought was my world....... no one will ever ever know how I felt or what I went through in those dark dark days.......

If he'd ever just said sorry and not tried to blame me, maybe I wouldn't have felt so humiliated, low and lonely.

Suicide crossed my mind until I looked at my kids and realised no man was worth that kind of pain.

Unfortunately, until you have been cheated on, you have no idea just how devastating it is and just how your world collapses.

I do wish he'd ended the relationship rather than what he did, because I'd have kept my sanity a bit longer.

But cheaters do not care what the victim will be going through, until it's too late!

You can be cheated on in other ways, not just by someone having sex with another person.

Life can sometimes cheat you out of other things and because of that you seek somethong that can make you a person, wanted.

As I have said do not judge, because someone hurt you"

I do not judge because someone hurt me.... I judged long before that.

I know the difference between right and wrong... cheating is wrong!

But I'll admit to judging! Thats one of my imperfections..... but I am still entitled to post my opinion!

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

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"But what is the background information? There is only so many reasons that can be catergorised. Lets just get real here. If men or women want to have sex with other people they will but please dont dress it up

Exactly

do not take the moral ground until you have the background information"

I dont need to know anyones background information to know he/she lies to the people they profess to love and everyone else they come into contact with to cover up that original lie

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)  over a year ago

birmingham


"You can be cheated on in other ways, not just by someone having sex with another person"

It's not so much cheating that causes the damage, it's having one's foundations / security / stability rocked, it's questionable whether those issues can ever be repaired

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By *adchickCouple  over a year ago

Cyprus


"But what is the background information? There is only so many reasons that can be catergorised. Lets just get real here. If men or women want to have sex with other people they will but please dont dress it up

Exactly

do not take the moral ground until you have the background information"

There is no background information that makes it ok to cheat.

Accept that and accept that if you are married and cheating, what you are doing is wrong and people will judge you for it.

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

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"You can be cheated on in other ways, not just by someone having sex with another person

It's not so much cheating that causes the damage, it's having one's foundations / security / stability rocked, it's questionable whether those issues can ever be repaired "

exactly

It about so much more than the sexual act

Its the family home thats often brought into question

Will everyone need to be uprooted, children need other schools?

Friendships lost because he/she fucked your best friend/sister/boss/neighbour

Its about ooooo so much more than the sexual deception and act

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By *etillanteWoman  over a year ago

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But I'll admit to judging! Thats one of my imperfections..... but I am still entitled to post my opinion!"

AS am I, and am also entiled to live my life as I chose to while I am able.

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By *etillanteWoman  over a year ago

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"But what is the background information? There is only so many reasons that can be catergorised. Lets just get real here. If men or women want to have sex with other people they will but please dont dress it up

Exactly

do not take the moral ground until you have the background information

There is no background information that makes it ok to cheat.

Accept that and accept that if you are married and cheating, what you are doing is wrong and people will judge you for it."

Only mindless bigotted people

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By *leasureDomeMan  over a year ago

all over the place


"But what is the background information? There is only so many reasons that can be catergorised. Lets just get real here. If men or women want to have sex with other people they will but please dont dress it up

Exactly

do not take the moral ground until you have the background information

There is no background information that makes it ok to cheat.

Accept that and accept that if you are married and cheating, what you are doing is wrong and people will judge you for it."

Accepting that we are all entitled to our own moral stances is one thing - logic and a genuine humanist philosophy however dictate we do not impose on others what we believe to be right. Call it Christian, Buddhist, Taoist, Existentialist.... it matters not! Have fun all you good people out there

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

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But I'll admit to judging! Thats one of my imperfections..... but I am still entitled to post my opinion!

AS am I, and am also entiled to live my life as I chose to while I am able.

"

your partner is entitled to the truth that you promised him when you made those vows

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5


"But what is the background information? There is only so many reasons that can be catergorised. Lets just get real here. If men or women want to have sex with other people they will but please dont dress it up

Exactly

do not take the moral ground until you have the background information

There is no background information that makes it ok to cheat.

Accept that and accept that if you are married and cheating, what you are doing is wrong and people will judge you for it.

Only mindless bigotted people "

I am neither

but you by your own admition are an adulteress

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By *etillanteWoman  over a year ago

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"

But I'll admit to judging! Thats one of my imperfections..... but I am still entitled to post my opinion!

AS am I, and am also entiled to live my life as I chose to while I am able.

your partner is entitled to the truth that you promised him when you made those vows "

And also I am entitled to the same

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman  over a year ago

little house on the praire


"But what is the background information? There is only so many reasons that can be catergorised. Lets just get real here. If men or women want to have sex with other people they will but please dont dress it up

Exactly

do not take the moral ground until you have the background information

There is no background information that makes it ok to cheat.

Accept that and accept that if you are married and cheating, what you are doing is wrong and people will judge you for it.

Only mindless bigotted people "

i believe everyone should live there life as they wish as long as its not hurting someone else. How can you be married to someone and have such little respect for them that you have to seek extramarital sex elsewhere. If the marriage is so bad someone feels the need to cheat on there partner then they should do the decent thing and leave

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By *etillanteWoman  over a year ago

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"But what is the background information? There is only so many reasons that can be catergorised. Lets just get real here. If men or women want to have sex with other people they will but please dont dress it up

Exactly

do not take the moral ground until you have the background information

There is no background information that makes it ok to cheat.

Accept that and accept that if you are married and cheating, what you are doing is wrong and people will judge you for it.

Only mindless bigotted people

I am neither

but you by your own admition are an adulteress

"

Did I say you were?

Yes and a whore but so are so many others

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5


"

But I'll admit to judging! Thats one of my imperfections..... but I am still entitled to post my opinion!

AS am I, and am also entiled to live my life as I chose to while I am able.

your partner is entitled to the truth that you promised him when you made those vows

And also I am entitled to the same"

does he know you are here

he is not here to tell his tale

you are telling yours

I have been unhappy in 2 marriages

I left and was NEVER unfaithful

If you dont like what you have then you should make other choices is what I told myself

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5


"But what is the background information? There is only so many reasons that can be catergorised. Lets just get real here. If men or women want to have sex with other people they will but please dont dress it up

Exactly

do not take the moral ground until you have the background information

There is no background information that makes it ok to cheat.

Accept that and accept that if you are married and cheating, what you are doing is wrong and people will judge you for it.

Only mindless bigotted people

i believe everyone should live there life as they wish as long as its not hurting someone else. How can you be married to someone and have such little respect for them that you have to seek extramarital sex elsewhere. If the marriage is so bad someone feels the need to cheat on there partner then they should do the decent thing and leave "

for once Karen and I agree

hoorah

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By *leasureDomeMan  over a year ago

all over the place


"But what is the background information? There is only so many reasons that can be catergorised. Lets just get real here. If men or women want to have sex with other people they will but please dont dress it up

Exactly

do not take the moral ground until you have the background information

There is no background information that makes it ok to cheat.

Accept that and accept that if you are married and cheating, what you are doing is wrong and people will judge you for it.

Only mindless bigotted people

I am neither

but you by your own admition are an adulteress

Did I say you were?

Yes and a whore but so are so many others"

You need not defend yourself at all - your true friends are aware what an honest, genuine, warm, unselfish and most caring human being you are xxxxx

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5


"But what is the background information? There is only so many reasons that can be catergorised. Lets just get real here. If men or women want to have sex with other people they will but please dont dress it up

Exactly

do not take the moral ground until you have the background information

There is no background information that makes it ok to cheat.

Accept that and accept that if you are married and cheating, what you are doing is wrong and people will judge you for it.

Only mindless bigotted people

I am neither

but you by your own admition are an adulteress

Did I say you were?

Yes and a whore but so are so many others"

excuse me

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman  over a year ago

little house on the praire


"But what is the background information? There is only so many reasons that can be catergorised. Lets just get real here. If men or women want to have sex with other people they will but please dont dress it up

Exactly

do not take the moral ground until you have the background information

There is no background information that makes it ok to cheat.

Accept that and accept that if you are married and cheating, what you are doing is wrong and people will judge you for it.

Only mindless bigotted people

I am neither

but you by your own admition are an adulteress

Did I say you were?

Yes and a whore but so are so many others

You need not defend yourself at all - your true friends are aware what an honest, genuine, warm, unselfish and most caring human being you are xxxxx"

Well thats got to be the funniest fucking thing ive heard all day. Some one who is cheating, honest, unselfish and caring ffs

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

When I asked about background information it was a rhetorical question where there is no answer. I honestly think that there is no answer and I have only one opinion which is that I have been cheated on in the past by a man I loved very much. I never judged him and do not till this day and he did it 3 times. We did not end because of the cheating but I know how the pain left me feeling for a long time. I forgive cheating at all levels but I will never meet a married man as I would be the bunny boiler of his worst nightmare

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5


"But what is the background information? There is only so many reasons that can be catergorised. Lets just get real here. If men or women want to have sex with other people they will but please dont dress it up

Exactly

do not take the moral ground until you have the background information

There is no background information that makes it ok to cheat.

Accept that and accept that if you are married and cheating, what you are doing is wrong and people will judge you for it.

Only mindless bigotted people

I am neither

but you by your own admition are an adulteress

Did I say you were?

Yes and a whore but so are so many others

excuse me"

You do maybe need to take stock of your life and realise that you are a person who is worth more than second best

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By *etillanteWoman  over a year ago

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"But what is the background information? There is only so many reasons that can be catergorised. Lets just get real here. If men or women want to have sex with other people they will but please dont dress it up

Exactly

do not take the moral ground until you have the background information

There is no background information that makes it ok to cheat.

Accept that and accept that if you are married and cheating, what you are doing is wrong and people will judge you for it.

Only mindless bigotted people

I am neither

but you by your own admition are an adulteress

Did I say you were?

Yes and a whore but so are so many others

excuse me"

Did I say you were mindless and bigotted?

and in peoples eyes I am obviously a whore, but so are others

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

is this really going anywhere.. can we not all agree to disagree on certain topics without overtly personal

the OP asked for opinions and opinions he got..

it's gonna get messy ....

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman  over a year ago

little house on the praire


"But what is the background information? There is only so many reasons that can be catergorised. Lets just get real here. If men or women want to have sex with other people they will but please dont dress it up

Exactly

do not take the moral ground until you have the background information

There is no background information that makes it ok to cheat.

Accept that and accept that if you are married and cheating, what you are doing is wrong and people will judge you for it.

Only mindless bigotted people

I am neither

but you by your own admition are an adulteress

Did I say you were?

Yes and a whore but so are so many others

excuse me

Did I say you were mindless and bigotted?

and in peoples eyes I am obviously a whore, but so are others"

I dont think your a whore, some one who hasnt enough respect to walk out of there marriage instead of humiliating her husband maybe

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Cheat on your partner - dont cheat it is none of our business what you do in your life - except when you bring it to us.

Swinging = doing what you enjoy with each others knowledge and blessing.

There are many internet chatrooms and sites for MARRIED AND CHEATING, swingers are banned from most of them, they welcome cheats, they help you cheat.

Why do cheats have to come to swingers sites to do it ?

Why not go amongst people who welcome what you do and support you in your lifestyle ?

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By *ickmealloverWoman  over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5

so its ok to lie and cheat because others do??

so do you mind if I come and rob you house this evening because other people do it?

Or maybe rape your daughter because other people do it?

Get my drift

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"is this really going anywhere.. can we not all agree to disagree on certain topics without overtly personal

the OP asked for opinions and opinions he got..

it's gonna get messy .... "

seconded,

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"is this really going anywhere.. can we not all agree to disagree on certain topics without overtly personal

the OP asked for opinions and opinions he got..

it's gonna get messy .... "

ah but if you ask for opinions on an emotive subject then mess has to be expected ............ I love a bit of mess now and again as long as everyone agree to deisagree and doesnt get personal as its not

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By *etillanteWoman  over a year ago

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"Well thats got to be the funniest fucking thing ive heard all day. Some one who is cheating, honest, unselfish and caring ffs"

So because you care, love someone, but need somthing they are not able to give you are wrong. Sorry call me weak, I don't give a flying f**k

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

my husband cheated on me I found out, he is now my ex, end of. How much more honest can a relationship get than that?

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