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Downright rude and obnoxious

By *thwalescpl OP Couple over a year ago

brecon

Its been a year since we started our adventure into the world of swinging, and for the most part, its been fun, fun, fun!

We joined FAB, which is probably the best move we made, and are regulars in the chatrooms, whilst I (Martin) also have become quite a regular poster in the forums.

Recently, I have noticed a bit of a pattern emerging, and, as I am never shy in jumping in with both size nines, I thought I would comment on it, as I think it needs to be said, so, here goes......

There are some that berate others in the forums who post "whinges", subjects that have been done (sometimes lots) before, and so on, the list is endless.

The worst offenders for this are some (but by no means all) of the more regular forumites, who seem to have no respect for newbies, those not familiar with the forums etc, and those who just want to have a bit of a rant.

These "growlers" seem to have taken it upon themselves to dictate to others just what people can, or cant, say on the forums.

As far as I am aware, that job falls to the mods, who, on the whole, do a reasonable job. one or two do seem to get a bit carried away sometimes with closing down the odd innocous thread or two, but it should be left to them to decide who should be told when they have crossed the line.

Too often, threads are closed down not because of the subject matter therein, but because these "rogue elements" start to have a pop, and the thread decends into a bit of a free-for-all as others leap to the OP's defence.

So, if you suddenly think "Does he mean me?", then, chances are its a possible yes, and you need to take a fekkin chill pill, step back, and let some wind out of your over-inflated ego my friend!!!

The forums are there for all and sundry to use, for whichever subjects they choose, and for others to debate the points raised.... if you dont like it, dont post, you muppet!!!

ARRRRGGGHHH......... and, breath in, breath out, and..... relax!!!

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By *eorge17Man over a year ago

Leven

wow!!! this is gonna be fun! lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

no its not. Its new years eve I am new and dont see the point of this thread being here. Let it go. New people like me can take care of themselves

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

wow.........

Happy new Year...

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By *emmefataleWoman over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

to the OP..didnt you just totally contradict yaself??? oh well happy new year!!!

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman over a year ago

little house on the praire

Why do some people always have to find something to moan about. Its new years eve ffs. If you have a problem with some of the regular form members maybe you should do what i do if i think someone is out of order and thats pm them, or did you just feel like being a miserable git on new years eve

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

_thwalescpl hope u feel better now lol

HAPPY NEW YEAR

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By *-and-KCouple over a year ago

Back of Beyond

harsh but fair

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By *thwalescpl OP Couple over a year ago

brecon

"to the OP..didnt you just totally contradict yaself??? oh well happy new year!!!"

In what way?

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman over a year ago

little house on the praire

"to the OP..didnt you just totally contradict yaself??? oh well happy new year!!!

In what way?"

why dont you pm the people you have aimed the thread at?? Its obviously someone you have in mind

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"harsh but fair

actually I agree until the last 2 paragraphs.....was well written and valid

then any credibility is lost as he goes into offending people....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

well this muppet doesn't like your tone OP....you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen.

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By *uckscouple2007Couple over a year ago

Bucks

ooooooooo someone else taking the cross fire ... good on you both

happy new year xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If you have a problem, I would suggest taking it up with the instigators.

I am presuming you are actually having a go at 1 particular member and it is probably our leader.

You have to remember that some of the regular members on here are the ones that put the effort in to bring the community together, organise the socials and ensure that everyone on here, possibly after some steep learning curves, actually become better swingers. They are the ones who take the time to privately speak to new people and reassure them, who also take them to clubs and parties and who make the time to speak to them.

Yes there have been a rack of 'of dear are we going through this old chestnut again' threads but people would soon be posting that they are being ignored if the regular forumites didn't put in their two pence worth and if they get shirty doing that, then tough.

Nice rant by the way for NYE. Sounds to me like someone isn't getting his leg over tonight, otherwise, why the tirade.

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By *thwalescpl OP Couple over a year ago

brecon

"Why do some people always have to find something to moan about. Its new years eve ffs. If you have a problem with some of the regular form members maybe you should do what i do if i think someone is out of order and thats pm them, or did you just feel like being a miserable git on new years eve"

I feel that PM'ing someone to have a pop at them is counter-productive, this way it makes people sit back and question whether they are one of the so called "growlers", and perhaps it will give them a new perspective on how others may perceive what they write.

I wasn't moaning, I was having a bit of a rant, with the best of intentions, in that I had hoped that some would chill out a little and let those who post in the forums do so safe in the knowledge that they aren't going to get "kneecapped" just for posting!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"well this muppet doesn't like your tone OP....you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen."

got it in 1

happy hugmany folkes

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm one of those that the OP refers to so feel free to have a go at me .....

But to be honest, I do get pissed of with folks who've not been on the site 5 and 20 minutes putting up whinging, griping and complaining posts.

Ding !

next please

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By *uckscouple2007Couple over a year ago

Bucks

"well this muppet doesn't like your tone OP"

well if you dont like then you dont need to post in reply was the gist of earlier posts elsewhere

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By *thwalescpl OP Couple over a year ago

brecon

"to the OP..didnt you just totally contradict yaself??? oh well happy new year!!!

In what way?

why dont you pm the people you have aimed the thread at?? Its obviously someone you have in mind"

See other post, but alsdo, I do not want to get into a slanging match with anyone, just trying to get some "breathing room" for those that might find it a little intimidating in here..... now, where my cape and mask?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"well this muppet doesn't like your tone OP

well if you dont like then you dont need to post in reply was the gist of earlier posts elsewhere"

and who rattled your cage????

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman over a year ago

little house on the praire

You mean your too fucking chicken. How does someone know whether you are refering to them or not. If someone sent me a pm telling me they where not happy with something i had posted i might not be happy but id have respect for that person for not being a yellow belly and hiding behind a forum post

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By *uckscouple2007Couple over a year ago

Bucks

and who rattled your cage????"

isn't it obvious? Those that moan all the time in here

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm not a moaner, I'm a screamer... oh yes! yes! yes!!

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By *uckscouple2007Couple over a year ago

Bucks

"oh yes! yes! yes!!

arranges next holiday in scotland

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By *thwalescpl OP Couple over a year ago

brecon

"harsh but fair

actually I agree until the last 2 paragraphs.....was well written and valid

then any credibility is lost as he goes into offending people....

Thanks for the feedback.

The last two paragraphs were a "wake up" call to those who might think that they are the "ofenders" for want of a better word. I tried to make it a "blanket call" rather than being specific, as I didnt want to ofend any individuals.

I was hoping to leave it up to their own conciences to make the judgement call on whether or not they were in need of the mythical "chill pill".

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM) over a year ago

birmingham

*Sits in corner, tin hat & shield at the ready*

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"*Sits in corner, tin hat & shield at the ready*

u wanty borrow my bullet proof vest

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman over a year ago

little house on the praire

"harsh but fair

actually I agree until the last 2 paragraphs.....was well written and valid

then any credibility is lost as he goes into offending people....

Thanks for the feedback.

I was hoping to leave it up to their own conciences to make the judgement call on whether or not they were in need of the mythical "chill pill". "

Think there is only one person that needs a chill pill on these boards

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By *adchickCouple over a year ago

Cyprus

"I'm one of those that the OP refers to so feel free to have a go at me .....

But to be honest, I do get pissed of with folks who've not been on the site 5 and 20 minutes putting up whinging, griping and complaining posts.

Ding !

next please"

Bloody well said.

As one of the ones that the OP is having a pop at...... I say, tough shite. If people didn't come on here thinking they could get their leg over in 5 mins flat, or that it should have more manners than a finishing school, we'd have nowt to moan about.

And OP, I've gone face to face with you in the past and you ain't the calm, openminded person you are trying to make yourself out to be.

Chill and let people get on with it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I tried to make it a "blanket call" rather than being specific, as I didnt want to ofend any individuals

Congratulations, you managed to offend more of the regular forum posters in one thread than many have done in a whole year.

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By *thwalescpl OP Couple over a year ago

brecon

"well this muppet doesn't like your tone OP....you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen."

If you cast around a bit, you will find that far from not being able to stand the heat, I have, in fact, started more than my fair share of blazes and then jumped right in!!

If, as seems from your response, you have decided you are one of those that needs to sit back and let those who post do so in a free and democratic manner, then I applaud you for your honesty.

However, if you are looking for a fight, dont bother, I am not interested.

Happy New Year!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"harsh but fair

actually I agree until the last 2 paragraphs.....was well written and valid

then any credibility is lost as he goes into offending people....

Thanks for the feedback.

I was hoping to leave it up to their own conciences to make the judgement call on whether or not they were in need of the mythical "chill pill". "

all thats has happened has been a reaction on a ' what should be party night '

for many of us singles.... we are spending the evening alone.. and was using this as a 'cheer up with pals'..

if honest.. yur feedback could have waited for a more suitable time.

it will now become, one side against the other.........

so night night from me...... I want 2009 to end on a high in the forums..... I have had a great laugh over the last few months........

see ya all in 2010........

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By *thwalescpl OP Couple over a year ago

brecon

"I tried to make it a "blanket call" rather than being specific, as I didnt want to ofend any individuals

Congratulations, you managed to offend more of the regular forum posters in one thread than many have done in a whole year."

Really?

I never actually named anyone, but you seem to have tarred most of the "regulars" with that brush...... "better to say nothing and be thought a fool, than open your mouth and remove all doubt"!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Well I too wanted some fun on the foums tonight - seems thats not to be

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

i agree ngt ngt an happy new year xxx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"well this muppet doesn't like your tone OP....you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen.

If you cast around a bit, you will find that far from not being able to stand the heat, I have, in fact, started more than my fair share of blazes and then jumped right in!!

If, as seems from your response, you have decided you are one of those that needs to sit back and let those who post do so in a free and democratic manner, then I applaud you for your honesty.

However, if you are looking for a fight, dont bother, I am not interested.

Happy New Year!!

I am not in the habit of "looking for a fight" there is enough hassle in ordinary life without courting it here, I just resented the 'blanket call' and accusations of being muppets... it's really a great welcome to the new posters in the forums. An example of how not to resolve ones grievances.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

whoooaaa. just grabbing a cold one. i cant miss this lol. shant be a min. keep it going

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If, as seems from your response, you have decided you are one of those that needs to sit back and let those who post do so in a free and democratic manner, "

That is not for you to say unless you have now styled yourself as chief of swinging police.

Mind you, aren't you the one that tried to take over the Newport Charity Night and ended up in Maddie's face, because you just ended up looking like the complete arse you are?

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By *imfromGlasgowMan over a year ago

er...guess

"whoooaaa. just grabbing a cold one. i cant miss this lol. shant be a min. keep it going

I'm with you on that but any minute now there'll be a maderator along with a bucket of cold water

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By *thwalescpl OP Couple over a year ago

brecon

"I'm one of those that the OP refers to so feel free to have a go at me .....

But to be honest, I do get pissed of with folks who've not been on the site 5 and 20 minutes putting up whinging, griping and complaining posts.

Ding !

next please

Bloody well said.

And OP, I've gone face to face with you in the past and you ain't the calm, openminded person you are trying to make yourself out to be.

Chill and let people get on with it."

Well, lets just put the record straight then, shall we?

Obviously we are both going to have our own viewpoint on how that particular "eyeball to eyeball" went, but I seem to recall that it was you who lost it and had a very public rant, whilst I shut my mouth and walked away. Slice that however you like, but the fact remains that I WAS the calm one in that little tet-a-tet.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I never actually named anyone, but you seem to have tarred most of the "regulars" with that brush...... "better to say nothing and be thought a fool, than open your mouth and remove all doubt"!"

Actually, you tarred the regulars when you wrote this.

I was also looking forward to a nice night on the boards.

I'm going as well now.

Did you achieve your aim OP? Push anyone you don't like out in the cold for the night?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"whoooaaa. just grabbing a cold one. i cant miss this lol. shant be a min. keep it going

pmsl xx

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By *adchickCouple over a year ago

Cyprus

"I'm one of those that the OP refers to so feel free to have a go at me .....

But to be honest, I do get pissed of with folks who've not been on the site 5 and 20 minutes putting up whinging, griping and complaining posts.

Ding !

next please

Bloody well said.

And OP, I've gone face to face with you in the past and you ain't the calm, openminded person you are trying to make yourself out to be.

Chill and let people get on with it.

Well, lets just put the record straight then, shall we?

I'm not even going to dignify that with the reply it so richly deserves, as the regulars and those within earshot know what really happened.

Needless to say, you are proving to be as big an arse tonight as you were at the Charity Party and the weeks leading up to it.

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By *thwalescpl OP Couple over a year ago

brecon

If, as seems from your response, you have decided you are one of those that needs to sit back and let those who post do so in a free and democratic manner,

That is not for you to say unless you have now styled yourself as chief of swinging police.

Mind you, aren't you the one that tried to take over the Newport Charity Night and ended up in Maddie's face, because you just ended up looking like the complete arse you are?"

No, I was the one that tried to voice (quite a number of) other peoples concerns that time was ticking on, and that other things had been planned which had a "time critical" aspect about them. Obviously as a non-neutral observer of the ensuing spat, you have taken one side, but I equally could line up a load of people who knew all the aspects of what occured and who were applled at the way in which I was treated.

Many decided to pull out of the "auction", and its only because I asked them as a favour to me not to that so many didnt.

As for making out that I am the "head of the swingers police", if you read the origional post you will see that I said that it should be up to the mods to "police" the posts.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

too many chiefs not enough indians...

same anywhere on these....

i dont have a woman to pour my wine. now wot

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"too many chiefs not enough indians...

same anywhere on these....

i dont have a woman to pour my wine. now wot

come pour mine for me instead

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

i would, but i have a hand full of thumbs lol. u'll wear more than u'll drink.

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By *thwalescpl OP Couple over a year ago

brecon

"I'm one of those that the OP refers to so feel free to have a go at me .....

But to be honest, I do get pissed of with folks who've not been on the site 5 and 20 minutes putting up whinging, griping and complaining posts.

Ding !

next please

Bloody well said.

And OP, I've gone face to face with you in the past and you ain't the calm, openminded person you are trying to make yourself out to be.

Chill and let people get on with it.

Well, lets just put the record straight then, shall we?

I'm not even going to dignify that with the reply it so richly deserves, as the regulars and those within earshot know what really happened.

Needless to say, you are proving to be as big an arse tonight as you were at the Charity Party and the weeks leading up to it.

Oh well, I guess the gloves are off then...... all I did was try to help, if that wasnt wanted, you should have said so, but none of the messages you sent me in any way even hinted at that, in fact you seemed to be glad of the help I tried to give.

After the fund-raiser I was one of the first to offer my congratulations in the forums on a good effort, despite the way I was treated.

I feel I have been dragged into an argument which too closely revolves around a subject that I WILL NOT SULLY with bickering.

This will be my last post on this subject.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"i would, but i have a hand full of thumbs lol. u'll wear more than u'll drink.

wouldn't be the first time someone has has used me as a drinking vessel

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

whoaaaa loll. i like that thought hun lol.... we seemed to of spoilt the conflict of the thread here haha

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"whoaaaa loll. i like that thought hun lol.... we seemed to of spoilt the conflict of the thread here haha

peace and love to all xxxxxxx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Ok...not expecting to find many Rhodes Scholars or Poets Lauretes on site, but I'm sure the OP could have found words to express his valid points without the need to insult and belittle other forum users: oh the irony of the post!

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By *heekychezzaWoman over a year ago

warrington

way to go then Laine and Maverick....lets have some smiles for the rest of the evening

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

laine watch that mav..he's shadie lol xx

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By *imfromGlasgowMan over a year ago

er...guess

".........but I'm sure the OP could have found words to express his valid points without the need to insult and belittle other forum users: oh the irony of the post!"

Wouldn't that have defeated the purpose of the post??????

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"laine watch that mav..he's shadie lol xx

He needs taught how to pour and serve a fine wine though Stunna hun... I've had a lot of practice there hahahaha!

xxx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

hey? lol. now that is another thread of its own lol...

i was mearly stating to our lovely laine that i make a terrible waiter lol....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

naw hes drinking he'll spill it lol xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

ok. well if your the one to teach me the secret then ok. i'm a bit of a fidget, but i will try my best to co operate lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"hey? lol. now that is another thread of its own lol...

i was mearly stating to our lovely laine that i make a terrible waiter lol....

hence mav babes why i said ud spill it lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

me i love the muppets!!

anyway happy new year folks and may this one be your best ever year!!

yes i will be still whingin on the forums in the new yr and doin whatever i do regardless of who it annoys !!

anyway peace people and bury the hatchet and not in the oppositions back!!! xx

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By *imfromGlasgowMan over a year ago

er...guess

It wouldn't be the first time a guy has 'accidentally' spilt a drink on a lady.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

i'm being bullied here, you 2 shud feel ashamed of yourselves

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm not a moaner, I'm a screamer... oh yes! yes! yes!!

pmsl love it !!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"i'm being bullied here, you 2 shud feel ashamed of yourselves

no bullies here, nope.... just giving you a little instruction lmao!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

i dont mind a little instruction....

but you know as well as i do laine, men are scared of women in packs lol...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"harsh but fair

actually I agree until the last 2 paragraphs.....was well written and valid

then any credibility is lost as he goes into offending people....

Thanks for the feedback.

I was hoping to leave it up to their own conciences to make the judgement call on whether or not they were in need of the mythical "chill pill". "

Bottom of hole

Stop digging

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By *eclan_and_AimeeCouple over a year ago

dunblane, stirling

I'm expecting to see Waldorf & Statler somewhere in here soon.

Instead its all more like the swedish chef "uuh flloowwr de floowm, de floo floo!"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

i love waldorf n statler they remind me of my papa and his old pal rip!! i want a wee statue o them!! xx

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By *eclan_and_AimeeCouple over a year ago

dunblane, stirling

Statler: That was wonderful!

Waldorf: Bravo!

S: I loved it!

W: That was great!

S: Well, it was pretty good.

W: Well, It wasn't bad.

S: There were parts that weren't pretty good, though.

W: It could've been a lot better.

S: I didn't really like it.

W: It was pretty terrible.

S: It was bad.

W: It was awful!

S & W: Boo! Boo!

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM) over a year ago

birmingham

We joined this site in the belief it was about having fun

This thread has certainly fulfilled our expectations

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Its been a year since we started our adventure into the world of swinging, and for the most part, its been fun, fun, fun!

We joined FAB, which is probably the best move we made, and are regulars in the chatrooms, whilst I (Martin) also have become quite a regular poster in the forums.

Recently, I have noticed a bit of a pattern emerging, and, as I am never shy in jumping in with both size nines, I thought I would comment on it, as I think it needs to be said, so, here goes......

There are some that berate others in the forums who post "whinges", subjects that have been done (sometimes lots) before, and so on, the list is endless.

These "growlers" seem to have taken it upon themselves to dictate to others just what people can, or cant, say on the forums.

So, if you suddenly think "Does he mean me?", then, chances are its a possible yes, and you need to take a fekkin chill pill, step back, and let some wind out of your over-inflated ego my friend!!!

The forums are there for all and sundry to use, for whichever subjects they choose, and for others to debate the points raised.... if you dont like it, dont post, you muppet!!!

ARRRRGGGHHH......... and, breath in, breath out, and..... relax!!!

Mart your so masterful in ere lol xxxx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Statler: That was wonderful!

Waldorf: Bravo!

S: I loved it!

W: That was great!

S: Well, it was pretty good.

W: Well, It wasn't bad.

S: There were parts that weren't pretty good, though.

W: It could've been a lot better.

S: I didn't really like it.

W: It was pretty terrible.

S: It was bad.

W: It was awful!

S & W: Boo! Boo!

goin on youtube now to watch waldorf n stateler !!xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

To the OP:

You started a post that was aimed at any regular who criticises a newbie for not reading the forum for old and done-to-death postings before starting a new thread on a well discussed subject.

You then insulted the Mods by suggesting that they should be the ones who should police the forums yet you took this task upon yourself to do their job for them.

You were then taken to task about an off-forum event that had no place on here. If something transpired at a social then it should have been dealt with there and then and not opened up on here, for people who weren't there to pass comment on.

And that is why I think you started this thread in the first place.

You knew that by targetting a certain individual without actually naming him/her would bait that person into responding and that's when you used this forum to air your personal grievances, and that is despicable.

You then threw your toys completely out of the pram by flouncing out of your own thread.

I think you have summed up this entire thread in one sentence:

""better to say nothing and be thought a fool, than open your mouth and remove all doubt"!"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

".........but I'm sure the OP could have found words to express his valid points without the need to insult and belittle other forum users: oh the irony of the post!

Wouldn't that have defeated the purpose of the post??????"
Not if you're claiming the moral high ground! Ironic doing the same thing you're accusing others of.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Far be it for me to say OP, but I'm not 100% convinced that you've done youself any favours here.

Not a good way to end 2009

http://www.fabswingers.com/my/remove

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By *im53Man over a year ago

Boldon

hey great new years eve

we even get the traditional bar fight

who says theres no comunity in here

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Loll Oldgit, It'sjust like the old days innit ...

A few beers, a good old punch up and best of mates in the morning

best wishes for 2010 my old son, have a good one

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM) over a year ago

birmingham

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By *heekychezzaWoman over a year ago

warrington

Nah....lets just leave it in 2009.....just over an hour and a half and we can all move on.

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By *im53Man over a year ago

Boldon

"Loll Oldgit, It'sjust like the old days innit ...

A few beers, a good old punch up and best of mates in the morning

best wishes for 2010 my old son, have a good one

thanks and same to you

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM) over a year ago

birmingham

"Nah....lets just leave it in 2009.....just over an hour and a half and we can all move on.

Well said, you deserve a Kiss

well, a virtual one anyway mwahhhhhhhhhhhh xxxxxxx

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By *heekychezzaWoman over a year ago

warrington

"Nah....lets just leave it in 2009.....just over an hour and a half and we can all move on.

Well said, you deserve a Kiss

well, a virtual one anyway mwahhhhhhhhhhhh xxxxxxx"

xxxmwaaaaahxxx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

And a big slobbery sluuuuuurrrrrp from Beau, our Amreican Bulldog and a sloppy, longue tougned kiss from Betty our German Shepherd Dog.

And from us of course

best wishes for 2010

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Wow, what a fun thread, NOT!

FAB is no different to all the forums I belong to, people from different walks of life.

No one is expected to get on with everyone else.

There will always be agreements and disagreements.

No one is perfect, and one person's poo does not smell nicer than the next etc...

I try to get on with people. However, there will always be peeps who rough me up the wrong way without trying very hard. I just turn and walk away from them. It is not hard, and I do not have to win every argument in order to feel complete/worthy/whatever.

Chill and Happy New Year everyone!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

horses for courses luv, which is why stated up the thread, it will always be like this on these things. we are all very opinionated, some egocentric, some not.

clash of the human race.......!

love it tho lol

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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O o O oo

Bucket of water wheeled out

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