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By *isscheekychops OP   Woman  over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

Watching about 9/11. It was a sad state of affairs.. My ex husband who was American and in the army enlisted soon after 9/11 as he wanted to do something for his country..

Then we had 7/7 I remember this day clearly I was meant to of gone to training and using the tube that day to get to the training however it was cancelled.. I went to work only to be trapped at work pretty much all day and night as I worked nextdoor to MI5 or 6.. I can't remember.

Is terrisom ever going to be something that we get rid of or are we just going to be wondering when the next attack is going to happen?

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By *xodussxMan  over a year ago

sheffield

We just have to live with it .

We can't stop the idiots being who they are in the name of whatever motivate them

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By *atisfy janeWoman  over a year ago

Torquay

Only a matter of time before we are hit again in the UK I fear.....

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By *emmefataleWoman  over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

Unfortunately I think its a fear we all have to live with for the foreseeable future

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By *B9 QueenWoman  over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"Watching about 9/11. It was a sad state of affairs.. My ex husband who was American and in the army enlisted soon after 9/11 as he wanted to do something for his country..

Then we had 7/7 I remember this day clearly I was meant to of gone to training and using the tube that day to get to the training however it was cancelled.. I went to work only to be trapped at work pretty much all day and night as I worked nextdoor to MI5 or 6.. I can't remember.

Is terrisom ever going to be something that we get rid of or are we just going to be wondering when the next attack is going to happen? "

One of the first terrorist attacks (or attempted attacks, at least) we still commemorate, November 5th Treason Plot of 1605, could have altered the history of this country very radically. We have had numerous ones since, not least in the 1970s with the terrorist attacks by the IRA. I grew up being conscious of reporting packages left behind unattended in public places. I still am and have reported suitcases left alone in airports before now.

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By *xodussxMan  over a year ago

sheffield


"Only a matter of time before we are hit again in the UK I fear..... "

True.

And it seems like nothing is done about it

Even the russian president warned UK about being the heaven for all sort of wanna be terrorist

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire

Have lived with it on a professional basis and as a member of society for a long time it seems..

dont fear what may happen next or think about the how and when etc as that just seems a bit futile..

if its going to happen and your unlucky enough to be caught up in it thats just whats meant to be..

'they' the terrrorists want us to change how we live, how we think and how their threat can be used to divide us as a society..

when we do that they have started to win..

fuck em..

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By *atisfy janeWoman  over a year ago

Torquay


"Only a matter of time before we are hit again in the UK I fear.....

True.

And it seems like nothing is done about it

Even the russian president warned UK about being the heaven for all sort of wanna be terrorist"

Oh I think plenty is being done about it....we just don't hear about it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Only a matter of time before we are hit again in the UK I fear.....

True.

And it seems like nothing is done about it

Even the russian president warned UK about being the heaven for all sort of wanna be terrorist"

I think you do the intelligence and security services a disservice as we never hear about the numerous foiled attempts or arrests etc.

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By *riendly foeWoman  over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814


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Oh I think plenty is being done about it....we just don't hear about it."

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By *B9 QueenWoman  over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"Only a matter of time before we are hit again in the UK I fear.....

True.

And it seems like nothing is done about it

Even the russian president warned UK about being the heaven for all sort of wanna be terrorist"

I think a lot is done about it. There is a lot going on behind scenes. How many attacks have been stopped? But we also need to be vigilant. As I said before, I grew up conscious of keeping an eye out for unattended bags. There were even recordings played on buses warning people to inform the police if they saw any. I remember hearing them on the way to school.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

We are on high alert all the time.

We have levels for it at all major events and its just something we will have to live with from now on.

Even though at first it was very scary every time we were on a higher level only once at work did i ever really feel it was going to happen and turned out to be technical faults,but boy did i crap it.

It will happen again sadly its just when.

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By *B9 QueenWoman  over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

I wonder if people were this scared during the Blitz? I am sure that it would have been terrifying every night but people seemed to have simply gone about their daily business as best they could.

We need to be more stoical in this country.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

For years we have had terror attacks in britain, as a child growing up there was the bombing linked to Irish paramilitary groups.

Now we have bombings linked to extremists.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

defo would have been a lot more scary back in the blitz but people were far more stronger back then life was tougher for all.

too much wrapped up in cotton wool these days.

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By *phroditeWoman  over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"For years we have had terror attacks in britain, as a child growing up there was the bombing linked to Irish paramilitary groups.

Now we have bombings linked to extremists."

Not just in Britain - other European countries also had their own terror cells.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"For years we have had terror attacks in britain, as a child growing up there was the bombing linked to Irish paramilitary groups.

Now we have bombings linked to extremists."

So quickly many forget how bad all the troubles were. I think we just learned to live with all that sadly.

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By *U1966Man  over a year ago

Devon

Until ths country starts putting terrorsts on plane to jordan israel or wherever instead of in social housing we will be haven for terrorists

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Only a matter of time before we are hit again in the UK I fear.....

True.

And it seems like nothing is done about it

Even the russian president warned UK about being the heaven for all sort of wanna be terrorist"

A lot is done about it, we just don't hear about it.

Millions of people in the world. They can't watch them all. Sometimes someone slips through the net.

The whole world is the same.

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By *issHottieBottieWoman  over a year ago

Kent

A bomb went off in the marines barracks where I live in 1989, I was walking to school, I remember the ground shaking, it's was about a ten minute walk from where I was. That was suspected to be the work of the IRA, scary at the time and now years later even more so because I always though terrorists would only target high profile things not a tiny barracks in a tiny town XX

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By *atisfy janeWoman  over a year ago

Torquay


"Until ths country starts putting terrorsts on plane to jordan israel or wherever instead of in social housing we will be haven for terrorists "

The most destructive/efficient/successful terrorists we have had in this country were in fact born here, you can't sent people back home if they were born in Luton/Birmingham/Leicester/London.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm a firm believer that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 were orchestrated by the US and British Government. It was a great way to gain control of the population, people live in fear and rely on their Governments for protection from the big bad "Al Qaeda". Along with the aid of the media telling us all to be afraid and that the world is a big bad place, it starts to paint a very nasty picture.

So, America invaded Iraq & Afghanistan, for oil, opium and natural gas. Just like what they're doing now to Syria, paying rebel forces to attack and then step in under humanitarian laws. So they can seize the land and rape it of its resources.

People all over the world are waking up to this, over 1/3 of Americans believe 9/11 was an inside job. I mean world trade centre 7, collapses without a plane hitting it, and we're told that it burnt down and pancake collapsed... Right a solid steel building that collapses under flames, although other steel frame buildings have burnt for days on end and still left standing.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"I'm a firm believer that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 were orchestrated by the US and British Government. It was a great way to gain control of the population, people live in fear and rely on their Governments for protection from the big bad "Al Qaeda". Along with the aid of the media telling us all to be afraid and that the world is a big bad place, it starts to paint a very nasty picture.

So, America invaded Iraq & Afghanistan, for oil, opium and natural gas. Just like what they're doing now to Syria, paying rebel forces to attack and then step in under humanitarian laws. So they can seize the land and rape it of its resources.

People all over the world are waking up to this, over 1/3 of Americans believe 9/11 was an inside job. I mean world trade centre 7, collapses without a plane hitting it, and we're told that it burnt down and pancake collapsed... Right a solid steel building that collapses under flames, although other steel frame buildings have burnt for days on end and still left standing.

"

respect your right to believe what you want but if you think in the modern age where whistlblowers, FOI etc that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 could and would be kept secret as you infer..

sorry thats a conspiracy theory too far..

dont some US citizens also think they have been taken away by alien life forms also..?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

No we'll never be free of it. Be it real or orchestrated. Wars make for good money

I believe there was some shady element to 9/11. The pentagon "plane"(missile) the fact that the steel beams are cut in such an angle looks like thermite has been used.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman  over a year ago

little house on the praire

This is not a new thing, anyone who is old enough to remember the 70's and the IRA bombings will know we had to be vigilant all the while, in fact i would say i was personally more vigilant then as they would target any areas. When i first moved to Leicester a bomb went off in a pub killing two people. We lived in a shared house at the time and had a spare room advertised in the paper, the police phoned us to see if we had had any irish accented people ring about the room so they do go to all lengths to try and catch them.

The nail bombers also freaked me out as there was a rumour that the main road we used to live off was going to be a target.

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By *kywatcherMan  over a year ago

Southwick


"Until ths country starts putting terrorsts on plane to jordan israel or wherever instead of in social housing we will be haven for terrorists "

This deserves 'Post if the Week' award.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"This is not a new thing, anyone who is old enough to remember the 70's and the IRA bombings will know we had to be vigilant all the while, in fact i would say i was personally more vigilant then as they would target any areas. When i first moved to Leicester a bomb went off in a pub killing two people. We lived in a shared house at the time and had a spare room advertised in the paper, the police phoned us to see if we had had any irish accented people ring about the room so they do go to all lengths to try and catch them.

The nail bombers also freaked me out as there was a rumour that the main road we used to live off was going to be a target."

There was also the careers office bombing on Yeoman Street.

I know for a fact that Leicester is on high alert at all times. Certain parts of the city are being raided regularly, either by immigration or counter terrorist police. Several years ago I was involved in one such raid on St Saviors road when we took 6 people away and enough equipment to bring down several buildings.

Intelligence and counter terror ops are going on all the time and are highly effective. Sadly there will always be one that slips through the net...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm a firm believer that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 were orchestrated by the US and British Government. It was a great way to gain control of the population, people live in fear and rely on their Governments for protection from the big bad "Al Qaeda". Along with the aid of the media telling us all to be afraid and that the world is a big bad place, it starts to paint a very nasty picture.

So, America invaded Iraq & Afghanistan, for oil, opium and natural gas. Just like what they're doing now to Syria, paying rebel forces to attack and then step in under humanitarian laws. So they can seize the land and rape it of its resources.

People all over the world are waking up to this, over 1/3 of Americans believe 9/11 was an inside job. I mean world trade centre 7, collapses without a plane hitting it, and we're told that it burnt down and pancake collapsed... Right a solid steel building that collapses under flames, although other steel frame buildings have burnt for days on end and still left standing.

respect your right to believe what you want but if you think in the modern age where whistlblowers, FOI etc that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 could and would be kept secret as you infer..

sorry thats a conspiracy theory too far..

dont some US citizens also think they have been taken away by alien life forms also..?"

People have blown the whilste on what has happened in America. People can argue to toss all day long, the only thing they can't argue with is Physics. How does two builds, fall at free fall speed? Well it's impossible without the aid of explosives, as the floor below has to be removed before the floor above made contact with it. Because if you dropped a ball at the same time as the towers fell, the ball should hit the ground first, but it doesn't. Which proves there was an aid in bringing the building down, not to mention the squibs you see (air pockets) that are seen exploding out of the windows floors below whilst the building collapses. How do you explain that? Are we going to say the laws of physics are wrong?!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm a firm believer that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 were orchestrated by the US and British Government. It was a great way to gain control of the population, people live in fear and rely on their Governments for protection from the big bad "Al Qaeda". Along with the aid of the media telling us all to be afraid and that the world is a big bad place, it starts to paint a very nasty picture.

So, America invaded Iraq & Afghanistan, for oil, opium and natural gas. Just like what they're doing now to Syria, paying rebel forces to attack and then step in under humanitarian laws. So they can seize the land and rape it of its resources.

People all over the world are waking up to this, over 1/3 of Americans believe 9/11 was an inside job. I mean world trade centre 7, collapses without a plane hitting it, and we're told that it burnt down and pancake collapsed... Right a solid steel building that collapses under flames, although other steel frame buildings have burnt for days on end and still left standing.

respect your right to believe what you want but if you think in the modern age where whistlblowers, FOI etc that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 could and would be kept secret as you infer..

sorry thats a conspiracy theory too far..

dont some US citizens also think they have been taken away by alien life forms also..?

People have blown the whilste on what has happened in America. People can argue to toss all day long, the only thing they can't argue with is Physics. How does two builds, fall at free fall speed? Well it's impossible without the aid of explosives, as the floor below has to be removed before the floor above made contact with it. Because if you dropped a ball at the same time as the towers fell, the ball should hit the ground first, but it doesn't. Which proves there was an aid in bringing the building down, not to mention the squibs you see (air pockets) that are seen exploding out of the windows floors below whilst the building collapses. How do you explain that? Are we going to say the laws of physics are wrong?!"

Nope, the laws of physics are correct. The way they're applied, well that's a whole other story.

If applied correctly, given the construction and condition of the WTC's and the impact site its clear that the planes and resulting fire brought those buildings down.

But, hey, that's just my opinion...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm a firm believer that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 were orchestrated by the US and British Government. It was a great way to gain control of the population, people live in fear and rely on their Governments for protection from the big bad "Al Qaeda". Along with the aid of the media telling us all to be afraid and that the world is a big bad place, it starts to paint a very nasty picture.

So, America invaded Iraq & Afghanistan, for oil, opium and natural gas. Just like what they're doing now to Syria, paying rebel forces to attack and then step in under humanitarian laws. So they can seize the land and rape it of its resources.

People all over the world are waking up to this, over 1/3 of Americans believe 9/11 was an inside job. I mean world trade centre 7, collapses without a plane hitting it, and we're told that it burnt down and pancake collapsed... Right a solid steel building that collapses under flames, although other steel frame buildings have burnt for days on end and still left standing.

respect your right to believe what you want but if you think in the modern age where whistlblowers, FOI etc that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 could and would be kept secret as you infer..

sorry thats a conspiracy theory too far..

dont some US citizens also think they have been taken away by alien life forms also..?

People have blown the whilste on what has happened in America. People can argue to toss all day long, the only thing they can't argue with is Physics. How does two builds, fall at free fall speed? Well it's impossible without the aid of explosives, as the floor below has to be removed before the floor above made contact with it. Because if you dropped a ball at the same time as the towers fell, the ball should hit the ground first, but it doesn't. Which proves there was an aid in bringing the building down, not to mention the squibs you see (air pockets) that are seen exploding out of the windows floors below whilst the building collapses. How do you explain that? Are we going to say the laws of physics are wrong?!

Nope, the laws of physics are correct. The way they're applied, well that's a whole other story.

If applied correctly, given the construction and condition of the WTC's and the impact site its clear that the planes and resulting fire brought those buildings down.

But, hey, that's just my opinion..."

Lol right, because Kerosene burns hot enough to melt steel gurders, like the ones seen in the basement which are split in half.. Hmmmm right

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Its only the yanks who react in such a stupid over the top way to it we have known terrorism in this country and felt with it fine I hate the way we now use the yank way and refer to it as a date rather than what actually happened it's to make it more scary for people it just spreads fear just like terrorism

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm a firm believer that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 were orchestrated by the US and British Government. It was a great way to gain control of the population, people live in fear and rely on their Governments for protection from the big bad "Al Qaeda". Along with the aid of the media telling us all to be afraid and that the world is a big bad place, it starts to paint a very nasty picture.

So, America invaded Iraq & Afghanistan, for oil, opium and natural gas. Just like what they're doing now to Syria, paying rebel forces to attack and then step in under humanitarian laws. So they can seize the land and rape it of its resources.

People all over the world are waking up to this, over 1/3 of Americans believe 9/11 was an inside job. I mean world trade centre 7, collapses without a plane hitting it, and we're told that it burnt down and pancake collapsed... Right a solid steel building that collapses under flames, although other steel frame buildings have burnt for days on end and still left standing.

respect your right to believe what you want but if you think in the modern age where whistlblowers, FOI etc that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 could and would be kept secret as you infer..

sorry thats a conspiracy theory too far..

dont some US citizens also think they have been taken away by alien life forms also..?

People have blown the whilste on what has happened in America. People can argue to toss all day long, the only thing they can't argue with is Physics. How does two builds, fall at free fall speed? Well it's impossible without the aid of explosives, as the floor below has to be removed before the floor above made contact with it. Because if you dropped a ball at the same time as the towers fell, the ball should hit the ground first, but it doesn't. Which proves there was an aid in bringing the building down, not to mention the squibs you see (air pockets) that are seen exploding out of the windows floors below whilst the building collapses. How do you explain that? Are we going to say the laws of physics are wrong?!

Nope, the laws of physics are correct. The way they're applied, well that's a whole other story.

If applied correctly, given the construction and condition of the WTC's and the impact site its clear that the planes and resulting fire brought those buildings down.

But, hey, that's just my opinion...

Lol right, because Kerosene burns hot enough to melt steel gurders, like the ones seen in the basement which are split in half.. Hmmmm right

"

Who said anything about melting? Any metal exposed to prolonged high temperatures will soften and flex, which is what happened in the WTC. The floor supports softened enough for them to break free of their anchor points. Given the number of floors an weight above the point if impact its highly plausible.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The USA are the biggest terrorists in the world in fact probably they would want to kill me just for saying that the land of the free eh and they are still the only nation on the planet to obliterate innocent men women and children with nuclear weapons I think they are slowly loosing their allies

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The USA are the biggest terrorists in the world in fact probably they would want to kill me just for saying that the land of the free eh and they are still the only nation on the planet to obliterate innocent men women and children with nuclear weapons I think they are slowly loosing their allies "

And in the process saved over a million more lives and shortened the war by an estimated 2 years. Sometimes the greater good is a terrible thing...

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By *eal_Dick_TurpinMan  over a year ago

Exeter


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Who said anything about melting? Any metal exposed to prolonged high temperatures will soften and flex, which is what happened in the WTC. The floor supports softened enough for them to break free of their anchor points. Given the number of floors an weight above the point if impact its highly plausible."

and building 7, which wasn't hit by planes, etc etc etc etc?

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By *un_JuiceCouple  over a year ago

Nr Chester


"I'm a firm believer that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 were orchestrated by the US and British Government. It was a great way to gain control of the population, people live in fear and rely on their Governments for protection from the big bad "Al Qaeda". Along with the aid of the media telling us all to be afraid and that the world is a big bad place, it starts to paint a very nasty picture.

So, America invaded Iraq & Afghanistan, for oil, opium and natural gas. Just like what they're doing now to Syria, paying rebel forces to attack and then step in under humanitarian laws. So they can seize the land and rape it of its resources.

People all over the world are waking up to this, over 1/3 of Americans believe 9/11 was an inside job. I mean world trade centre 7, collapses without a plane hitting it, and we're told that it burnt down and pancake collapsed... Right a solid steel building that collapses under flames, although other steel frame buildings have burnt for days on end and still left standing.

"

Thank fuck someones awake

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By *ilverMedalWinnerMan  over a year ago

North Lakes


"This is not a new thing, anyone who is old enough to remember the 70's and the IRA bombings will know we had to be vigilant all the while, in fact i would say i was personally more vigilant then as they would target any areas. When i first moved to Leicester a bomb went off in a pub killing two people. We lived in a shared house at the time and had a spare room advertised in the paper, the police phoned us to see if we had had any irish accented people ring about the room so they do go to all lengths to try and catch them.

The nail bombers also freaked me out as there was a rumour that the main road we used to live off was going to be a target."

Just trying to remember the two countries that gave arms to the IRA; one was Lybia and the other ... er ... oh yes, the USA (through their NorAid programme). So, for the US to say that they don't support terrorism ...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm a firm believer that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 were orchestrated by the US and British Government. It was a great way to gain control of the population, people live in fear and rely on their Governments for protection from the big bad "Al Qaeda". Along with the aid of the media telling us all to be afraid and that the world is a big bad place, it starts to paint a very nasty picture.

So, America invaded Iraq & Afghanistan, for oil, opium and natural gas. Just like what they're doing now to Syria, paying rebel forces to attack and then step in under humanitarian laws. So they can seize the land and rape it of its resources.

People all over the world are waking up to this, over 1/3 of Americans believe 9/11 was an inside job. I mean world trade centre 7, collapses without a plane hitting it, and we're told that it burnt down and pancake collapsed... Right a solid steel building that collapses under flames, although other steel frame buildings have burnt for days on end and still left standing.

respect your right to believe what you want but if you think in the modern age where whistlblowers, FOI etc that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 could and would be kept secret as you infer..

sorry thats a conspiracy theory too far..

dont some US citizens also think they have been taken away by alien life forms also..?

People have blown the whilste on what has happened in America. People can argue to toss all day long, the only thing they can't argue with is Physics. How does two builds, fall at free fall speed? Well it's impossible without the aid of explosives, as the floor below has to be removed before the floor above made contact with it. Because if you dropped a ball at the same time as the towers fell, the ball should hit the ground first, but it doesn't. Which proves there was an aid in bringing the building down, not to mention the squibs you see (air pockets) that are seen exploding out of the windows floors below whilst the building collapses. How do you explain that? Are we going to say the laws of physics are wrong?!

Nope, the laws of physics are correct. The way they're applied, well that's a whole other story.

If applied correctly, given the construction and condition of the WTC's and the impact site its clear that the planes and resulting fire brought those buildings down.

But, hey, that's just my opinion...

Lol right, because Kerosene burns hot enough to melt steel gurders, like the ones seen in the basement which are split in half.. Hmmmm right

Who said anything about melting? Any metal exposed to prolonged high temperatures will soften and flex, which is what happened in the WTC. The floor supports softened enough for them to break free of their anchor points. Given the number of floors an weight above the point if impact its highly plausible."

True, but they're cut at a perfect 45 degree angle, so we supposed to believe that this was just another magical accident? Righttttt

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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By *isscheekychops OP   Woman  over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon


"If you are going to debate please do it without name calling "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm a firm believer that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 were orchestrated by the US and British Government. It was a great way to gain control of the population, people live in fear and rely on their Governments for protection from the big bad "Al Qaeda". Along with the aid of the media telling us all to be afraid and that the world is a big bad place, it starts to paint a very nasty picture.

So, America invaded Iraq & Afghanistan, for oil, opium and natural gas. Just like what they're doing now to Syria, paying rebel forces to attack and then step in under humanitarian laws. So they can seize the land and rape it of its resources.

People all over the world are waking up to this, over 1/3 of Americans believe 9/11 was an inside job. I mean world trade centre 7, collapses without a plane hitting it, and we're told that it burnt down and pancake collapsed... Right a solid steel building that collapses under flames, although other steel frame buildings have burnt for days on end and still left standing.

respect your right to believe what you want but if you think in the modern age where whistlblowers, FOI etc that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 could and would be kept secret as you infer..

sorry thats a conspiracy theory too far..

dont some US citizens also think they have been taken away by alien life forms also..?

People have blown the whilste on what has happened in America. People can argue to toss all day long, the only thing they can't argue with is Physics. How does two builds, fall at free fall speed? Well it's impossible without the aid of explosives, as the floor below has to be removed before the floor above made contact with it. Because if you dropped a ball at the same time as the towers fell, the ball should hit the ground first, but it doesn't. Which proves there was an aid in bringing the building down, not to mention the squibs you see (air pockets) that are seen exploding out of the windows floors below whilst the building collapses. How do you explain that? Are we going to say the laws of physics are wrong?!

Nope, the laws of physics are correct. The way they're applied, well that's a whole other story.

If applied correctly, given the construction and condition of the WTC's and the impact site its clear that the planes and resulting fire brought those buildings down.

But, hey, that's just my opinion...

Lol right, because Kerosene burns hot enough to melt steel gurders, like the ones seen in the basement which are split in half.. Hmmmm right

Who said anything about melting? Any metal exposed to prolonged high temperatures will soften and flex, which is what happened in the WTC. The floor supports softened enough for them to break free of their anchor points. Given the number of floors an weight above the point if impact its highly plausible.

True, but they're cut at a perfect 45 degree angle, so we supposed to believe that this was just another magical accident? Righttttt "

So you're saying that the CIA/whoever had secret crews working to cut the floor supports or rig enough explosives to bring the buildings down and no one noticed?

You're perfectly entitled to believe that but personally I believe that some terrorists hijacked some planes and flew them into those buildings and the resulting fire and impact damage is what made them come down its also slightly more plausable but less interesting...

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By *on101bristolMan  over a year ago

Bristol


"I'm a firm believer that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 were orchestrated by the US and British Government. It was a great way to gain control of the population, people live in fear and rely on their Governments for protection from the big bad "Al Qaeda". Along with the aid of the media telling us all to be afraid and that the world is a big bad place, it starts to paint a very nasty picture.

So, America invaded Iraq & Afghanistan, for oil, opium and natural gas. Just like what they're doing now to Syria, paying rebel forces to attack and then step in under humanitarian laws. So they can seize the land and rape it of its resources.

People all over the world are waking up to this, over 1/3 of Americans believe 9/11 was an inside job. I mean world trade centre 7, collapses without a plane hitting it, and we're told that it burnt down and pancake collapsed... Right a solid steel building that collapses under flames, although other steel frame buildings have burnt for days on end and still left standing.

respect your right to believe what you want but if you think in the modern age where whistlblowers, FOI etc that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 could and would be kept secret as you infer..

sorry thats a conspiracy theory too far..

dont some US citizens also think they have been taken away by alien life forms also..?

People have blown the whilste on what has happened in America. People can argue to toss all day long, the only thing they can't argue with is Physics. How does two builds, fall at free fall speed? Well it's impossible without the aid of explosives, as the floor below has to be removed before the floor above made contact with it. Because if you dropped a ball at the same time as the towers fell, the ball should hit the ground first, but it doesn't. Which proves there was an aid in bringing the building down, not to mention the squibs you see (air pockets) that are seen exploding out of the windows floors below whilst the building collapses. How do you explain that? Are we going to say the laws of physics are wrong?!

Nope, the laws of physics are correct. The way they're applied, well that's a whole other story.

If applied correctly, given the construction and condition of the WTC's and the impact site its clear that the planes and resulting fire brought those buildings down.

But, hey, that's just my opinion...

Lol right, because Kerosene burns hot enough to melt steel gurders, like the ones seen in the basement which are split in half.. Hmmmm right

Who said anything about melting? Any metal exposed to prolonged high temperatures will soften and flex, which is what happened in the WTC. The floor supports softened enough for them to break free of their anchor points. Given the number of floors an weight above the point if impact its highly plausible.

True, but they're cut at a perfect 45 degree angle, so we supposed to believe that this was just another magical accident? Righttttt

So you're saying that the CIA/whoever had secret crews working to cut the floor supports or rig enough explosives to bring the buildings down and no one noticed?

You're perfectly entitled to believe that but personally I believe that some terrorists hijacked some planes and flew them into those buildings and the resulting fire and impact damage is what made them come down its also slightly more plausable but less interesting... "

Google he documentary 'loose change' and 'William Rodriguez' he was a janitor of the WTC. In his lawsuit, Rodriguez made hundreds of allegations including allegations that the Twin Towers were destroyed by means of "controlled demolitions;"On September 11, Rodriguez told CNN that shortly before the plane hit the tower he was in the basement when:

...we hear like a big rumble. Not like an impact, like a rumble, like moving furniture in a massive way. And all of sudden we hear another rumble, and a guy comes running, running into our office, and all of skin was off his body. All of the skin. We went crazy, we started screaming, we told him to get out. We took everybody out of the office outside to the loading dock area.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm a firm believer that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 were orchestrated by the US and British Government. It was a great way to gain control of the population, people live in fear and rely on their Governments for protection from the big bad "Al Qaeda". Along with the aid of the media telling us all to be afraid and that the world is a big bad place, it starts to paint a very nasty picture.

So, America invaded Iraq & Afghanistan, for oil, opium and natural gas. Just like what they're doing now to Syria, paying rebel forces to attack and then step in under humanitarian laws. So they can seize the land and rape it of its resources.

People all over the world are waking up to this, over 1/3 of Americans believe 9/11 was an inside job. I mean world trade centre 7, collapses without a plane hitting it, and we're told that it burnt down and pancake collapsed... Right a solid steel building that collapses under flames, although other steel frame buildings have burnt for days on end and still left standing.

respect your right to believe what you want but if you think in the modern age where whistlblowers, FOI etc that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 could and would be kept secret as you infer..

sorry thats a conspiracy theory too far..

dont some US citizens also think they have been taken away by alien life forms also..?

People have blown the whilste on what has happened in America. People can argue to toss all day long, the only thing they can't argue with is Physics. How does two builds, fall at free fall speed? Well it's impossible without the aid of explosives, as the floor below has to be removed before the floor above made contact with it. Because if you dropped a ball at the same time as the towers fell, the ball should hit the ground first, but it doesn't. Which proves there was an aid in bringing the building down, not to mention the squibs you see (air pockets) that are seen exploding out of the windows floors below whilst the building collapses. How do you explain that? Are we going to say the laws of physics are wrong?!

Nope, the laws of physics are correct. The way they're applied, well that's a whole other story.

If applied correctly, given the construction and condition of the WTC's and the impact site its clear that the planes and resulting fire brought those buildings down.

But, hey, that's just my opinion...

Lol right, because Kerosene burns hot enough to melt steel gurders, like the ones seen in the basement which are split in half.. Hmmmm right

Who said anything about melting? Any metal exposed to prolonged high temperatures will soften and flex, which is what happened in the WTC. The floor supports softened enough for them to break free of their anchor points. Given the number of floors an weight above the point if impact its highly plausible.

True, but they're cut at a perfect 45 degree angle, so we supposed to believe that this was just another magical accident? Righttttt

So you're saying that the CIA/whoever had secret crews working to cut the floor supports or rig enough explosives to bring the buildings down and no one noticed?

You're perfectly entitled to believe that but personally I believe that some terrorists hijacked some planes and flew them into those buildings and the resulting fire and impact damage is what made them come down its also slightly more plausable but less interesting... "

Actually they used a military compound called "Thermite", which is used to cut through large metal objects, which is why all of the metal which was left was shipped off to china and melted down, so no tests could be performed upon the metal to see if there were any traces of thermite or other metal melting compounds.

Also in relation to the planes, they were unable to recover the blackboxes, which would give detailed information from the cockpit. But apparently they couldn't find them in the rubble.. Although they found a plane in the middle of the ocean miles below the surface.. Another righttttt

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Surely you must understand that any explosives and their detonators that were placed in those towers would never have survived the impact and fire from those planes.

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By *at2Couple  over a year ago

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"I'm a firm believer that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 were orchestrated by the US and British Government. It was a great way to gain control of the population, people live in fear and rely on their Governments for protection from the big bad "Al Qaeda". Along with the aid of the media telling us all to be afraid and that the world is a big bad place, it starts to paint a very nasty picture.

So, America invaded Iraq & Afghanistan, for oil, opium and natural gas. Just like what they're doing now to Syria, paying rebel forces to attack and then step in under humanitarian laws. So they can seize the land and rape it of its resources.

People all over the world are waking up to this, over 1/3 of Americans believe 9/11 was an inside job. I mean world trade centre 7, collapses without a plane hitting it, and we're told that it burnt down and pancake collapsed... Right a solid steel building that collapses under flames, although other steel frame buildings have burnt for days on end and still left standing.

respect your right to believe what you want but if you think in the modern age where whistlblowers, FOI etc that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 could and would be kept secret as you infer..

sorry thats a conspiracy theory too far..

dont some US citizens also think they have been taken away by alien life forms also..?

People have blown the whilste on what has happened in America. People can argue to toss all day long, the only thing they can't argue with is Physics. How does two builds, fall at free fall speed? Well it's impossible without the aid of explosives, as the floor below has to be removed before the floor above made contact with it. Because if you dropped a ball at the same time as the towers fell, the ball should hit the ground first, but it doesn't. Which proves there was an aid in bringing the building down, not to mention the squibs you see (air pockets) that are seen exploding out of the windows floors below whilst the building collapses. How do you explain that? Are we going to say the laws of physics are wrong?!

Nope, the laws of physics are correct. The way they're applied, well that's a whole other story.

If applied correctly, given the construction and condition of the WTC's and the impact site its clear that the planes and resulting fire brought those buildings down.

But, hey, that's just my opinion...

Lol right, because Kerosene burns hot enough to melt steel gurders, like the ones seen in the basement which are split in half.. Hmmmm right

Who said anything about melting? Any metal exposed to prolonged high temperatures will soften and flex, which is what happened in the WTC. The floor supports softened enough for them to break free of their anchor points. Given the number of floors an weight above the point if impact its highly plausible.

True, but they're cut at a perfect 45 degree angle, so we supposed to believe that this was just another magical accident? Righttttt

So you're saying that the CIA/whoever had secret crews working to cut the floor supports or rig enough explosives to bring the buildings down and no one noticed?

You're perfectly entitled to believe that but personally I believe that some terrorists hijacked some planes and flew them into those buildings and the resulting fire and impact damage is what made them come down its also slightly more plausable but less interesting...

Google he documentary 'loose change' and 'William Rodriguez' he was a janitor of the WTC. In his lawsuit, Rodriguez made hundreds of allegations including allegations that the Twin Towers were destroyed by means of "controlled demolitions;"On September 11, Rodriguez told CNN that shortly before the plane hit the tower he was in the basement when:

...we hear like a big rumble. Not like an impact, like a rumble, like moving furniture in a massive way. And all of sudden we hear another rumble, and a guy comes running, running into our office, and all of skin was off his body. All of the skin. We went crazy, we started screaming, we told him to get out. We took everybody out of the office outside to the loading dock area.

"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Surely you must understand that any explosives and their detonators that were placed in those towers would never have survived the impact and fire from those planes. "

I believe the detonation was set off from WTC 7, the building which had no plane hit it but magically pancake collapsed. It was in the perfect location, and funnily enough part owned by the FBI.. Chances of that eh..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm a firm believer that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 were orchestrated by the US and British Government. It was a great way to gain control of the population, people live in fear and rely on their Governments for protection from the big bad "Al Qaeda". Along with the aid of the media telling us all to be afraid and that the world is a big bad place, it starts to paint a very nasty picture.

So, America invaded Iraq & Afghanistan, for oil, opium and natural gas. Just like what they're doing now to Syria, paying rebel forces to attack and then step in under humanitarian laws. So they can seize the land and rape it of its resources.

People all over the world are waking up to this, over 1/3 of Americans believe 9/11 was an inside job. I mean world trade centre 7, collapses without a plane hitting it, and we're told that it burnt down and pancake collapsed... Right a solid steel building that collapses under flames, although other steel frame buildings have burnt for days on end and still left standing.

respect your right to believe what you want but if you think in the modern age where whistlblowers, FOI etc that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 could and would be kept secret as you infer..

sorry thats a conspiracy theory too far..

dont some US citizens also think they have been taken away by alien life forms also..?

People have blown the whilste on what has happened in America. People can argue to toss all day long, the only thing they can't argue with is Physics. How does two builds, fall at free fall speed? Well it's impossible without the aid of explosives, as the floor below has to be removed before the floor above made contact with it. Because if you dropped a ball at the same time as the towers fell, the ball should hit the ground first, but it doesn't. Which proves there was an aid in bringing the building down, not to mention the squibs you see (air pockets) that are seen exploding out of the windows floors below whilst the building collapses. How do you explain that? Are we going to say the laws of physics are wrong?!

Nope, the laws of physics are correct. The way they're applied, well that's a whole other story.

If applied correctly, given the construction and condition of the WTC's and the impact site its clear that the planes and resulting fire brought those buildings down.

But, hey, that's just my opinion...

Lol right, because Kerosene burns hot enough to melt steel gurders, like the ones seen in the basement which are split in half.. Hmmmm right

Who said anything about melting? Any metal exposed to prolonged high temperatures will soften and flex, which is what happened in the WTC. The floor supports softened enough for them to break free of their anchor points. Given the number of floors an weight above the point if impact its highly plausible.

True, but they're cut at a perfect 45 degree angle, so we supposed to believe that this was just another magical accident? Righttttt

So you're saying that the CIA/whoever had secret crews working to cut the floor supports or rig enough explosives to bring the buildings down and no one noticed?

You're perfectly entitled to believe that but personally I believe that some terrorists hijacked some planes and flew them into those buildings and the resulting fire and impact damage is what made them come down its also slightly more plausable but less interesting...

Actually they used a military compound called "Thermite", which is used to cut through large metal objects, which is why all of the metal which was left was shipped off to china and melted down, so no tests could be performed upon the metal to see if there were any traces of thermite or other metal melting compounds.

Also in relation to the planes, they were unable to recover the blackboxes, which would give detailed information from the cockpit. But apparently they couldn't find them in the rubble.. Although they found a plane in the middle of the ocean miles below the surface.. Another righttttt "

Lol, I know exactly what Thermite is as I've used it. And I'll tell you why they couldn't test for it. It's made of aluminium oxide and iron oxide. How could they differentiate what was parts of the buildings/planes from what was thermite residue.

Black boxes can survive impacts with water and the ground. They couldn't survive an impact with a building, exposure to fire for over an hour and the collapse of those buildings and yet further exposure to fire/heat. Well they possibly could but its doubtful.

Whatever the truth is, there will always be differing opinions, its what makes us all fun...

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By *at2Couple  over a year ago

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Just another false flag in a long line of such acts to allow the establishment to take our freedoms away to keep us good little sheeple in our place...

A man once said those that sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither ..

Another man once said if you keep your eyes shut in the dark you will never see the light...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just another false flag in a long line of such acts to allow the establishment to take our freedoms away to keep us good little sheeple in our place...

A man once said those that sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither ..

Another man once said if you keep your eyes shut in the dark you will never see the light... "

Couldn't have said it any better, keep people suppressed, and in routine with fear and ignorance. Don't question authority or you'll be labeled crazy or a conspiracy theorist, and the media has portrayed people who speak out against the Government as foolish or nut jobs.

Because who owns the media, the Government does, because they're all in bed together, politicians, bankers, large corporation owners etc. They see themselves as above us, and want rid of us all as we are using up their resources. Hence the high levels of cancer and other diseases, which are caused by the foods we consume which are GMO, but you'll never find the Royals or Monsanto eating inorganic food.

People need to wake up before its too late!

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"

Who said anything about melting? Any metal exposed to prolonged high temperatures will soften and flex, which is what happened in the WTC. The floor supports softened enough for them to break free of their anchor points. Given the number of floors an weight above the point if impact its highly plausible."

Steel starts to lose its structural integrity at about 650c if i recall..

yes the steel in the building would have been clad with a fire protective covering but the test for said is not the impact of jet plane at x mph..

once the steel starts to lose its integrity it also expands which causes futher instability / pushing of other joins etc, it does not have to melt to do this ..

with the impact of the plane and the added weight of said, weakening of the steels above by fire add in those destroyed by the impact and then the weight of the structure above and collapse was inevitable..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Just another false flag in a long line of such acts to allow the establishment to take our freedoms away to keep us good little sheeple in our place...

A man once said those that sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither ..

Another man once said if you keep your eyes shut in the dark you will never see the light...

Couldn't have said it any better, keep people suppressed, and in routine with fear and ignorance. Don't question authority or you'll be labeled crazy or a conspiracy theorist, and the media has portrayed people who speak out against the Government as foolish or nut jobs.

Because who owns the media, the Government does, because they're all in bed together, politicians, bankers, large corporation owners etc. They see themselves as above us, and want rid of us all as we are using up their resources. Hence the high levels of cancer and other diseases, which are caused by the foods we consume which are GMO, but you'll never find the Royals or Monsanto eating inorganic food.

People need to wake up before its too late!

"

so the very people who benefit from having a 'labour force' to keep them wealthy wish to destroy that which keeps them wealthy, does the jobs they dont want to do..

tricky one that..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just another false flag in a long line of such acts to allow the establishment to take our freedoms away to keep us good little sheeple in our place...

A man once said those that sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither ..

Another man once said if you keep your eyes shut in the dark you will never see the light...

Couldn't have said it any better, keep people suppressed, and in routine with fear and ignorance. Don't question authority or you'll be labeled crazy or a conspiracy theorist, and the media has portrayed people who speak out against the Government as foolish or nut jobs.

Because who owns the media, the Government does, because they're all in bed together, politicians, bankers, large corporation owners etc. They see themselves as above us, and want rid of us all as we are using up their resources. Hence the high levels of cancer and other diseases, which are caused by the foods we consume which are GMO, but you'll never find the Royals or Monsanto eating inorganic food.

People need to wake up before its too late!

so the very people who benefit from having a 'labour force' to keep them wealthy wish to destroy that which keeps them wealthy, does the jobs they dont want to do..

tricky one that.."

The idea behind the NWO (new world order) is to basically enslave the population and decrease it, so they have a work force to do what they wish but at significantly reduced levels. Money to these people like Bill Gates is meaningless, they have so much they've gone crazy. Why do you think he is behind vaccinations of Africa? Vaccines contain mercury which is poisonous to the body as its a heavy metal, and deposits on the brain. They're injecting new born babies with this shit, they're body isn't able to cope with it, hence the ridiculously high levels of autism everywhere!! Depopulation is their game and they're doing a fine job of it. Keep eating those GMO foods and getting cancer folks, don't ask questions, just do your job and be happy that we're letting you live

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By *or Fox SakeCouple  over a year ago

Thornaby


"I'm a firm believer that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 were orchestrated by the US and British Government. It was a great way to gain control of the population, people live in fear and rely on their Governments for protection from the big bad "Al Qaeda". Along with the aid of the media telling us all to be afraid and that the world is a big bad place, it starts to paint a very nasty picture.

So, America invaded Iraq & Afghanistan, for oil, opium and natural gas. Just like what they're doing now to Syria, paying rebel forces to attack and then step in under humanitarian laws. So they can seize the land and rape it of its resources.

People all over the world are waking up to this, over 1/3 of Americans believe 9/11 was an inside job. I mean world trade centre 7, collapses without a plane hitting it, and we're told that it burnt down and pancake collapsed... Right a solid steel building that collapses under flames, although other steel frame buildings have burnt for days on end and still left standing.

"

No offence but your completely off your head if you belive it was anything but a terrorist attack.

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By *or Fox SakeCouple  over a year ago

Thornaby

Christ

I worry about humanity

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By *on101bristolMan  over a year ago

Bristol


"I'm a firm believer that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 were orchestrated by the US and British Government. It was a great way to gain control of the population, people live in fear and rely on their Governments for protection from the big bad "Al Qaeda". Along with the aid of the media telling us all to be afraid and that the world is a big bad place, it starts to paint a very nasty picture.

So, America invaded Iraq & Afghanistan, for oil, opium and natural gas. Just like what they're doing now to Syria, paying rebel forces to attack and then step in under humanitarian laws. So they can seize the land and rape it of its resources.

People all over the world are waking up to this, over 1/3 of Americans believe 9/11 was an inside job. I mean world trade centre 7, collapses without a plane hitting it, and we're told that it burnt down and pancake collapsed... Right a solid steel building that collapses under flames, although other steel frame buildings have burnt for days on end and still left standing.

"

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." George W bush

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"

The idea behind the NWO (new world order) is to basically enslave the population and decrease it, so they have a work force to do what they wish but at significantly reduced levels. Money to these people like Bill Gates is meaningless, they have so much they've gone crazy. Why do you think he is behind vaccinations of Africa? Vaccines contain mercury which is poisonous to the body as its a heavy metal, and deposits on the brain. They're injecting new born babies with this shit, they're body isn't able to cope with it, hence the ridiculously high levels of autism everywhere!! Depopulation is their game and they're doing a fine job of it. Keep eating those GMO foods and getting cancer folks, don't ask questions, just do your job and be happy that we're letting you live "

now you are stretching it fella, do you not think that well known philanthopist Bill Gates could if as you suggest 'decrease a population'..

not find a simpler more cost effective and efficient way of doing so..

than by spending millions curing preventable diseases..?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

The idea behind the NWO (new world order) is to basically enslave the population and decrease it, so they have a work force to do what they wish but at significantly reduced levels. Money to these people like Bill Gates is meaningless, they have so much they've gone crazy. Why do you think he is behind vaccinations of Africa? Vaccines contain mercury which is poisonous to the body as its a heavy metal, and deposits on the brain. They're injecting new born babies with this shit, they're body isn't able to cope with it, hence the ridiculously high levels of autism everywhere!! Depopulation is their game and they're doing a fine job of it. Keep eating those GMO foods and getting cancer folks, don't ask questions, just do your job and be happy that we're letting you live

now you are stretching it fella, do you not think that well known philanthopist Bill Gates could if as you suggest 'decrease a population'..

not find a simpler more cost effective and efficient way of doing so..

than by spending millions curing preventable diseases..?

"

Yeah I'm pretty sure he could go over there with an AK-47 and go on a rampage, but wouldn't be good for his publicity. It has to be done in a fashion that is unsuspecting of the general public. What a perfect way, it's labelled as a vaccine to help people..

I mean if you don't think these people are weird, why do they attend bohemian grove every year to sit in front of a giant owl, and then burn an effigy?! These are world leaders attending this, large corporation owners, bankers, billionaires. And you think I'm crazy lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm a firm believer that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 were orchestrated by the US and British Government. It was a great way to gain control of the population, people live in fear and rely on their Governments for protection from the big bad "Al Qaeda". Along with the aid of the media telling us all to be afraid and that the world is a big bad place, it starts to paint a very nasty picture.

So, America invaded Iraq & Afghanistan, for oil, opium and natural gas. Just like what they're doing now to Syria, paying rebel forces to attack and then step in under humanitarian laws. So they can seize the land and rape it of its resources.

People all over the world are waking up to this, over 1/3 of Americans believe 9/11 was an inside job. I mean world trade centre 7, collapses without a plane hitting it, and we're told that it burnt down and pancake collapsed... Right a solid steel building that collapses under flames, although other steel frame buildings have burnt for days on end and still left standing.

"

Oh I do love a good fairy story story. Can we hear about the lizards next , then the illuminati and if we're really good can you tell us about the new world order. I love that one. Pleeeease tell us another story.

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By *at2Couple  over a year ago

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"

The idea behind the NWO (new world order) is to basically enslave the population and decrease it, so they have a work force to do what they wish but at significantly reduced levels. Money to these people like Bill Gates is meaningless, they have so much they've gone crazy. Why do you think he is behind vaccinations of Africa? Vaccines contain mercury which is poisonous to the body as its a heavy metal, and deposits on the brain. They're injecting new born babies with this shit, they're body isn't able to cope with it, hence the ridiculously high levels of autism everywhere!! Depopulation is their game and they're doing a fine job of it. Keep eating those GMO foods and getting cancer folks, don't ask questions, just do your job and be happy that we're letting you live

now you are stretching it fella, do you not think that well known philanthopist Bill Gates could if as you suggest 'decrease a population'..

not find a simpler more cost effective and efficient way of doing so..

than by spending millions curing preventable diseases..?

Yeah I'm pretty sure he could go over there with an AK-47 and go on a rampage, but wouldn't be good for his publicity. It has to be done in a fashion that is unsuspecting of the general public. What a perfect way, it's labelled as a vaccine to help people..

I mean if you don't think these people are weird, why do they attend bohemian grove every year to sit in front of a giant owl, and then burn an effigy?! These are world leaders attending this, large corporation owners, bankers, billionaires. And you think I'm crazy lol"

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By *ezebelWoman  over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest


"

The idea behind the NWO (new world order) is to basically enslave the population and decrease it, so they have a work force to do what they wish but at significantly reduced levels. Money to these people like Bill Gates is meaningless, they have so much they've gone crazy. Why do you think he is behind vaccinations of Africa? Vaccines contain mercury which is poisonous to the body as its a heavy metal, and deposits on the brain. They're injecting new born babies with this shit, they're body isn't able to cope with it, hence the ridiculously high levels of autism everywhere!! Depopulation is their game and they're doing a fine job of it. Keep eating those GMO foods and getting cancer folks, don't ask questions, just do your job and be happy that we're letting you live "

Now I know that this is a wind up

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"

The idea behind the NWO (new world order) is to basically enslave the population and decrease it, so they have a work force to do what they wish but at significantly reduced levels. Money to these people like Bill Gates is meaningless, they have so much they've gone crazy. Why do you think he is behind vaccinations of Africa? Vaccines contain mercury which is poisonous to the body as its a heavy metal, and deposits on the brain. They're injecting new born babies with this shit, they're body isn't able to cope with it, hence the ridiculously high levels of autism everywhere!! Depopulation is their game and they're doing a fine job of it. Keep eating those GMO foods and getting cancer folks, don't ask questions, just do your job and be happy that we're letting you live

now you are stretching it fella, do you not think that well known philanthopist Bill Gates could if as you suggest 'decrease a population'..

not find a simpler more cost effective and efficient way of doing so..

than by spending millions curing preventable diseases..?

Yeah I'm pretty sure he could go over there with an AK-47 and go on a rampage, but wouldn't be good for his publicity. It has to be done in a fashion that is unsuspecting of the general public. What a perfect way, it's labelled as a vaccine to help people..

I mean if you don't think these people are weird, why do they attend bohemian grove every year to sit in front of a giant owl, and then burn an effigy?! These are world leaders attending this, large corporation owners, bankers, billionaires. And you think I'm crazy lol"

i dont think your crazy, have not said that..

but by fuck m8 some of your posts are only missing Scully and Mulder and that funny theme toon..?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm a firm believer that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 were orchestrated by the US and British Government. It was a great way to gain control of the population, people live in fear and rely on their Governments for protection from the big bad "Al Qaeda". Along with the aid of the media telling us all to be afraid and that the world is a big bad place, it starts to paint a very nasty picture.

So, America invaded Iraq & Afghanistan, for oil, opium and natural gas. Just like what they're doing now to Syria, paying rebel forces to attack and then step in under humanitarian laws. So they can seize the land and rape it of its resources.

People all over the world are waking up to this, over 1/3 of Americans believe 9/11 was an inside job. I mean world trade centre 7, collapses without a plane hitting it, and we're told that it burnt down and pancake collapsed... Right a solid steel building that collapses under flames, although other steel frame buildings have burnt for days on end and still left standing.

Oh I do love a good fairy story story. Can we hear about the lizards next , then the illuminati and if we're really good can you tell us about the new world order. I love that one. Pleeeease tell us another story. "

No I'm not David Icke, so you won't be hearing about lizards as that's rubbish, I'm here to discuss reality. Unfortunately for David Icke he discredits himself with silly lizard stories. The illuminati are real as is the NWO.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

The idea behind the NWO (new world order) is to basically enslave the population and decrease it, so they have a work force to do what they wish but at significantly reduced levels. Money to these people like Bill Gates is meaningless, they have so much they've gone crazy. Why do you think he is behind vaccinations of Africa? Vaccines contain mercury which is poisonous to the body as its a heavy metal, and deposits on the brain. They're injecting new born babies with this shit, they're body isn't able to cope with it, hence the ridiculously high levels of autism everywhere!! Depopulation is their game and they're doing a fine job of it. Keep eating those GMO foods and getting cancer folks, don't ask questions, just do your job and be happy that we're letting you live

now you are stretching it fella, do you not think that well known philanthopist Bill Gates could if as you suggest 'decrease a population'..

not find a simpler more cost effective and efficient way of doing so..

than by spending millions curing preventable diseases..?

Yeah I'm pretty sure he could go over there with an AK-47 and go on a rampage, but wouldn't be good for his publicity. It has to be done in a fashion that is unsuspecting of the general public. What a perfect way, it's labelled as a vaccine to help people..

I mean if you don't think these people are weird, why do they attend bohemian grove every year to sit in front of a giant owl, and then burn an effigy?! These are world leaders attending this, large corporation owners, bankers, billionaires. And you think I'm crazy lol

i dont think your crazy, have not said that..

but by fuck m8 some of your posts are only missing Scully and Mulder and that funny theme toon..?"

I completely hand on heart understand, it's absurd to take it all in in one hit. This is why I encourage people to look into it themselves, because the information is ridiculously vast. Alot of it is shit, alot of it is real. Don't just listen to the media research it all for yourself!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm a firm believer that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 were orchestrated by the US and British Government. It was a great way to gain control of the population, people live in fear and rely on their Governments for protection from the big bad "Al Qaeda". Along with the aid of the media telling us all to be afraid and that the world is a big bad place, it starts to paint a very nasty picture.

So, America invaded Iraq & Afghanistan, for oil, opium and natural gas. Just like what they're doing now to Syria, paying rebel forces to attack and then step in under humanitarian laws. So they can seize the land and rape it of its resources.

People all over the world are waking up to this, over 1/3 of Americans believe 9/11 was an inside job. I mean world trade centre 7, collapses without a plane hitting it, and we're told that it burnt down and pancake collapsed... Right a solid steel building that collapses under flames, although other steel frame buildings have burnt for days on end and still left standing.

Oh I do love a good fairy story story. Can we hear about the lizards next , then the illuminati and if we're really good can you tell us about the new world order. I love that one. Pleeeease tell us another story.

No I'm not David Icke, so you won't be hearing about lizards as that's rubbish, I'm here to discuss reality. Unfortunately for David Icke he discredits himself with silly lizard stories. The illuminati are real as is the NWO."

And the airplane vapour , don't forget that one. I'm really enjoying these fables and tales.

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By *atisfy janeWoman  over a year ago

Torquay

Thanks for this thread, I haven't laughed this much for ages.

I'm just waiting for Lord Lucan to be cited riding Shergar up the stairs of the WTC throwing bombs....

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"

I completely hand on heart understand, it's absurd to take it all in in one hit. This is why I encourage people to look into it themselves, because the information is ridiculously vast. Alot of it is shit, alot of it is real. Don't just listen to the media research it all for yourself!!

"

you on about LSD now..

yes there's lots of information 'out there'..

enjoy the ride fella..

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By *emmefataleWoman  over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"Thanks for this thread, I haven't laughed this much for ages.

I'm just waiting for Lord Lucan to be cited riding Shergar up the stairs of the WTC throwing bombs....

"

Bugger....I was just about to type something similar

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By *issHottieBottieWoman  over a year ago

Kent


"Thanks for this thread, I haven't laughed this much for ages.

I'm just waiting for Lord Lucan to be cited riding Shergar up the stairs of the WTC throwing bombs....

"

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By *atisfy janeWoman  over a year ago

Torquay

Incidentally.....did you know that the Apollo moon landings were actually filmed on Hackney Marshes at night?

Honestly....

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By *isscheekychops OP   Woman  over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

This thread is like an episode of the X files...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Who said anything about melting? Any metal exposed to prolonged high temperatures will soften and flex, which is what happened in the WTC. The floor supports softened enough for them to break free of their anchor points. Given the number of floors an weight above the point if impact its highly plausible.

Steel starts to lose its structural integrity at about 650c if i recall..

yes the steel in the building would have been clad with a fire protective covering but the test for said is not the impact of jet plane at x mph..

once the steel starts to lose its integrity it also expands which causes futher instability / pushing of other joins etc, it does not have to melt to do this ..

with the impact of the plane and the added weight of said, weakening of the steels above by fire add in those destroyed by the impact and then the weight of the structure above and collapse was inevitable.."

Thankyou...

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By *ezebelWoman  over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest


"

The idea behind the NWO (new world order) is to basically enslave the population and decrease it, so they have a work force to do what they wish but at significantly reduced levels. Money to these people like Bill Gates is meaningless, they have so much they've gone crazy. Why do you think he is behind vaccinations of Africa? Vaccines contain mercury which is poisonous to the body as its a heavy metal, and deposits on the brain. They're injecting new born babies with this shit, they're body isn't able to cope with it, hence the ridiculously high levels of autism everywhere!! Depopulation is their game and they're doing a fine job of it. Keep eating those GMO foods and getting cancer folks, don't ask questions, just do your job and be happy that we're letting you live

now you are stretching it fella, do you not think that well known philanthopist Bill Gates could if as you suggest 'decrease a population'..

not find a simpler more cost effective and efficient way of doing so..

than by spending millions curing preventable diseases..?

Yeah I'm pretty sure he could go over there with an AK-47 and go on a rampage, but wouldn't be good for his publicity. It has to be done in a fashion that is unsuspecting of the general public. What a perfect way, it's labelled as a vaccine to help people..

I mean if you don't think these people are weird, why do they attend bohemian grove every year to sit in front of a giant owl, and then burn an effigy?! These are world leaders attending this, large corporation owners, bankers, billionaires. And you think I'm crazy lol

i dont think your crazy, have not said that..

but by fuck m8 some of your posts are only missing Scully and Mulder and that funny theme toon..?

I completely hand on heart understand, it's absurd to take it all in in one hit. This is why I encourage people to look into it themselves, because the information is ridiculously vast. Alot of it is shit, alot of it is real. Don't just listen to the media research it all for yourself!!

"

You should have told that to the World Health Organisation before they bit Bill Gates hand off when he offered to pay for mega vaccination programmes in Africa.

Silly buggers only though he was trying to contribute to reducing the worlds highest rates of maternal and infant mortality and they didnt even realise he was planning to depopulate.

If only they'd heard of researching facts on the "Conspiracy-Theories-R-Us' on t'internet....

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By *at2Couple  over a year ago

north Down

Just keep taking the propaganda medicine and sleep safe in the thought that the powers that be tell you the truth and would never harm you or allow you to know what is really going on the experts that never get anything wrong the millions that die through starvation war disease they must be happy little chappies sure why not pay them more tax for less services so as they can buy some more expensive toys have them be in it together with you and all the time you struggle a bit more but hey welcome to the planet earth 97% owned by less than 1% of the population. Sometimes a bit of research paints a different story ..

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By *atisfy janeWoman  over a year ago

Torquay

I thought the Illuminati was the latest low energy light bulb from Philips?

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By *on101bristolMan  over a year ago

Bristol

In darkness we are all the same, it is only our knowledge and wisdom that separates us

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It amuses me how I am willing to put forward credible explanations and yet arrogant people on here can only laugh and say its lies? Where's your argument to suggest its not. You keep being spoonfed bullshit, and when one of your loved ones is crushed in a building or bombed on a train, you keep shaking those sorry little hands at Al Qaeda. Ignorance is bliss, as the real world is a harsh reality. Cowards!

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"It amuses me how I am willing to put forward credible explanations and yet arrogant people on here can only laugh and say its lies? Where's your argument to suggest its not. You keep being spoonfed bullshit, and when one of your loved ones is crushed in a building or bombed on a train, you keep shaking those sorry little hands at Al Qaeda. Ignorance is bliss, as the real world is a harsh reality. Cowards!"

you have been given credible, relaible and proven reasons to counter some of your 'theories'..

that you choose not to accept them is your right..

that others choose to differ does not make anyone a coward..

that you seem to be spouting absolute cobblers about other things which are not only not proven but have a large element of fantasy within them is perhaps one reason you are not taken seriously..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It amuses me how I am willing to put forward credible explanations and yet arrogant people on here can only laugh and say its lies? Where's your argument to suggest its not. You keep being spoonfed bullshit, and when one of your loved ones is crushed in a building or bombed on a train, you keep shaking those sorry little hands at Al Qaeda. Ignorance is bliss, as the real world is a harsh reality. Cowards!

you have been given credible, relaible and proven reasons to counter some of your 'theories'..

that you choose not to accept them is your right..

that others choose to differ does not make anyone a coward..

that you seem to be spouting absolute cobblers about other things which are not only not proven but have a large element of fantasy within them is perhaps one reason you are not taken seriously.."

No, there have been some people to answer back to me with actual responses which I'm more than happy to debate upon, others have just been down right rude.

I get no satisfaction out of coming on here and telling people that their own Government are conspiring against them, you honestly think I'd sit here and write a long message for no reason? I'm only trying to make people consider both sides of the argument and even do some of their own research, but people just can't seem to fathom that the Government would even do such things, which I completely understand as I was once the same, but until you've spent the amount of time researching things as I have you have no grounds to tell me I'm telling tales if you're not going to present any actual argument.

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By *atisfy janeWoman  over a year ago

Torquay

I knew I was right about Lord Lucan, but have to admit I got it wrong about Shergar.....it was Elvis Presley that gave him a piggy back up those WTC stairs.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"It amuses me how I am willing to put forward credible explanations and yet arrogant people on here can only laugh and say its lies? Where's your argument to suggest its not. You keep being spoonfed bullshit, and when one of your loved ones is crushed in a building or bombed on a train, you keep shaking those sorry little hands at Al Qaeda. Ignorance is bliss, as the real world is a harsh reality. Cowards!

you have been given credible, relaible and proven reasons to counter some of your 'theories'..

that you choose not to accept them is your right..

that others choose to differ does not make anyone a coward..

that you seem to be spouting absolute cobblers about other things which are not only not proven but have a large element of fantasy within them is perhaps one reason you are not taken seriously..

No, there have been some people to answer back to me with actual responses which I'm more than happy to debate upon, others have just been down right rude.

I get no satisfaction out of coming on here and telling people that their own Government are conspiring against them, you honestly think I'd sit here and write a long message for no reason? I'm only trying to make people consider both sides of the argument and even do some of their own research, but people just can't seem to fathom that the Government would even do such things, which I completely understand as I was once the same, but until you've spent the amount of time researching things as I have you have no grounds to tell me I'm telling tales if you're not going to present any actual argument."

your stuff about Bill Gates is the same fairy tale as Santa..

just my opinion, enlighten and educate me if you can..

where is this evidence, this fact..??

dont tell me to research it, tell us all here..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


" tell me I'm telling tales if you're not going to present any actual argument."

refer you to mine and the other post about the effect of the impact of the planes into the WTC and the fire which developed on structural steel..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Oh great , time for my bedtime story. Please let it be the illuminati.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Who said anything about melting? Any metal exposed to prolonged high temperatures will soften and flex, which is what happened in the WTC. The floor supports softened enough for them to break free of their anchor points. Given the number of floors an weight above the point if impact its highly plausible.

Steel starts to lose its structural integrity at about 650c if i recall..

yes the steel in the building would have been clad with a fire protective covering but the test for said is not the impact of jet plane at x mph..

once the steel starts to lose its integrity it also expands which causes futher instability / pushing of other joins etc, it does not have to melt to do this ..

with the impact of the plane and the added weight of said, weakening of the steels above by fire add in those destroyed by the impact and then the weight of the structure above and collapse was inevitable.."

Yes, but NOT AT FREE FALL SPEEDS! That would imply that there was 0% resistance on the building falling! Which can only mean that the floor below was blown out before the one above reached it, otherwise it's not physically possible! It defies the laws of physics. The floor above which the plane resides upon, would hit the floor below, then the floor below that and so on, which would mean it would hit resistance as there is still structural integrity within those floors, as the build is RC framed.

Even still, explain WTC 7, how the hell did that collapse, no plane hit it, yet it pancake collapsed?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

http://youtu.be/Zv7BImVvEyk

Watch that and tell me it's NOT a controlled demolition. You must be the mental one if you believe that to not be a controlled demo!

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By *atisfy janeWoman  over a year ago

Torquay

Have you a conspiracy theory into why the factory that made clothes for Primark collapsed yesterday?

I don't think an aeroplane flew into it but suspect that Next and Marks and Spencer were behind it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"http://youtu.be/Zv7BImVvEyk

Watch that and tell me it's NOT a controlled demolition. You must be the mental one if you believe that to not be a controlled demo!"

Now who's sounding arrogant ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"http://youtu.be/Zv7BImVvEyk

Watch that and tell me it's NOT a controlled demolition. You must be the mental one if you believe that to not be a controlled demo!"

It's not...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"http://youtu.be/Zv7BImVvEyk

Watch that and tell me it's NOT a controlled demolition. You must be the mental one if you believe that to not be a controlled demo!

Now who's sounding arrogant ?"

The guy who's presented actual evidence something which you haven't so if you have nothing to contribute don't bother!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Who said anything about melting? Any metal exposed to prolonged high temperatures will soften and flex, which is what happened in the WTC. The floor supports softened enough for them to break free of their anchor points. Given the number of floors an weight above the point if impact its highly plausible.

Steel starts to lose its structural integrity at about 650c if i recall..

yes the steel in the building would have been clad with a fire protective covering but the test for said is not the impact of jet plane at x mph..

once the steel starts to lose its integrity it also expands which causes futher instability / pushing of other joins etc, it does not have to melt to do this ..

with the impact of the plane and the added weight of said, weakening of the steels above by fire add in those destroyed by the impact and then the weight of the structure above and collapse was inevitable..

Yes, but NOT AT FREE FALL SPEEDS! That would imply that there was 0% resistance on the building falling! Which can only mean that the floor below was blown out before the one above reached it, otherwise it's not physically possible! It defies the laws of physics. The floor above which the plane resides upon, would hit the floor below, then the floor below that and so on, which would mean it would hit resistance as there is still structural integrity within those floors, as the build is RC framed.

Even still, explain WTC 7, how the hell did that collapse, no plane hit it, yet it pancake collapsed?"

There's this radical thing called gravity...

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


" not to mention the squibs you see (air pockets) that are seen exploding out of the windows floors below whilst the building collapses. How do you explain that? "

simple experiment, take 2 equal sized pieces of mdf place some talc or flour on the top of the bottom one..

hold the 2nd one parralel to the first and drop it onto the 1st..

the displaced air wil be pushed outward, the flour will show it..

its very simple, may even be physics or probably just common sense..

to say that the towers were set with a demolition ring main and shaped cutting charges were used to drop them is la la..

you cant build that sort of system into a building without it being noticed as it has to be on the steel, and you cant sneak in overnight to do so on the scale and size required...

FYI when cutting steel the shaped charge has to be flush to the steel to be fully effective..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"http://youtu.be/Zv7BImVvEyk

Watch that and tell me it's NOT a controlled demolition. You must be the mental one if you believe that to not be a controlled demo!

Now who's sounding arrogant ?

The guy who's presented actual evidence something which you haven't so if you have nothing to contribute don't bother!"

Rude & arrogant. Lovely traits for one so young.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"http://youtu.be/Zv7BImVvEyk

Watch that and tell me it's NOT a controlled demolition. You must be the mental one if you believe that to not be a controlled demo!

Now who's sounding arrogant ?

The guy who's presented actual evidence something which you haven't so if you have nothing to contribute don't bother!"

Trouble is its not actual evidence, its just another conspiracy theory...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"http://youtu.be/Zv7BImVvEyk

Watch that and tell me it's NOT a controlled demolition. You must be the mental one if you believe that to not be a controlled demo!

Now who's sounding arrogant ?

The guy who's presented actual evidence something which you haven't so if you have nothing to contribute don't bother!

Rude & arrogant. Lovely traits for one so young. "

Perhaps if you weren't so condescending with your comments and actually act mature for somebody of your age you wouldn't get that kind of response, it's pathetic of you and Jayne! We're trying to debate here and we've got silly comments, that aren't necessary, if you have nothing constructive to add then say nothing, it's quite simple.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"http://youtu.be/Zv7BImVvEyk

Watch that and tell me it's NOT a controlled demolition. You must be the mental one if you believe that to not be a controlled demo!

Now who's sounding arrogant ?

The guy who's presented actual evidence something which you haven't so if you have nothing to contribute don't bother!

Trouble is its not actual evidence, its just another conspiracy theory..."

Well it's a damn sight better than your explanation, which was.. Nothing!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"http://youtu.be/Zv7BImVvEyk

Watch that and tell me it's NOT a controlled demolition. You must be the mental one if you believe that to not be a controlled demo!

Now who's sounding arrogant ?

The guy who's presented actual evidence something which you haven't so if you have nothing to contribute don't bother!

Rude & arrogant. Lovely traits for one so young.

Perhaps if you weren't so condescending with your comments and actually act mature for somebody of your age you wouldn't get that kind of response, it's pathetic of you and Jayne! We're trying to debate here and we've got silly comments, that aren't necessary, if you have nothing constructive to add then say nothing, it's quite simple. "

But you conspiracy theorists are so easy to play with.

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By *atisfy janeWoman  over a year ago

Torquay

Is it true?

Does Elvis live on the moon now?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" not to mention the squibs you see (air pockets) that are seen exploding out of the windows floors below whilst the building collapses. How do you explain that?

simple experiment, take 2 equal sized pieces of mdf place some talc or flour on the top of the bottom one..

hold the 2nd one parralel to the first and drop it onto the 1st..

the displaced air wil be pushed outward, the flour will show it..

its very simple, may even be physics or probably just common sense..

to say that the towers were set with a demolition ring main and shaped cutting charges were used to drop them is la la..

you cant build that sort of system into a building without it being noticed as it has to be on the steel, and you cant sneak in overnight to do so on the scale and size required...

FYI when cutting steel the shaped charge has to be flush to the steel to be fully effective..

"

Yes you would be correct if the build had collapsed onto a floor below which was completely flat as well, and didn't have structural core columns and reinforced concrete.

The term squibs is a term used in the demolition industry as pockets of air which are seen when a building is demoed, as the force of the explosion pushes the air out. And actually you can paint thermite on and it dries as a clear resin and then when lit is extremely deadly!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"http://youtu.be/Zv7BImVvEyk

Watch that and tell me it's NOT a controlled demolition. You must be the mental one if you believe that to not be a controlled demo!

Now who's sounding arrogant ?

The guy who's presented actual evidence something which you haven't so if you have nothing to contribute don't bother!

Trouble is its not actual evidence, its just another conspiracy theory...

Well it's a damn sight better than your explanation, which was.. Nothing!"

Two jet planes, loaded with fuel and travelling at 400mph isn't a logical explanation then?

Sure beats secret demo.experts placing shape.charges and thermite without anyone noticing and the fact it somehow survived the impact and.fie to be successfully detonate d

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By *atisfy janeWoman  over a year ago

Torquay

Look how long it takes them to paint the Forth Bridge.....god knows how long it took them to paint all that thermite on those steel structures in those two bloody great buildings....at night as well, can't have anyone witnessing them doing it.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


" not to mention the squibs you see (air pockets) that are seen exploding out of the windows floors below whilst the building collapses. How do you explain that?

simple experiment, take 2 equal sized pieces of mdf place some talc or flour on the top of the bottom one..

hold the 2nd one parralel to the first and drop it onto the 1st..

the displaced air wil be pushed outward, the flour will show it..

its very simple, may even be physics or probably just common sense..

to say that the towers were set with a demolition ring main and shaped cutting charges were used to drop them is la la..

you cant build that sort of system into a building without it being noticed as it has to be on the steel, and you cant sneak in overnight to do so on the scale and size required...

FYI when cutting steel the shaped charge has to be flush to the steel to be fully effective..

Yes you would be correct if the build had collapsed onto a floor below which was completely flat as well, and didn't have structural core columns and reinforced concrete.

The term squibs is a term used in the demolition industry as pockets of air which are seen when a building is demoed, as the force of the explosion pushes the air out. And actually you can paint thermite on and it dries as a clear resin and then when lit is extremely deadly!"

pretty au fait with the terminology and the kit having used it and not only read about it on some web site fella..

will agree to disagree..

not building a safe room just yet mind..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" not to mention the squibs you see (air pockets) that are seen exploding out of the windows floors below whilst the building collapses. How do you explain that?

simple experiment, take 2 equal sized pieces of mdf place some talc or flour on the top of the bottom one..

hold the 2nd one parralel to the first and drop it onto the 1st..

the displaced air wil be pushed outward, the flour will show it..

its very simple, may even be physics or probably just common sense..

to say that the towers were set with a demolition ring main and shaped cutting charges were used to drop them is la la..

you cant build that sort of system into a building without it being noticed as it has to be on the steel, and you cant sneak in overnight to do so on the scale and size required...

FYI when cutting steel the shaped charge has to be flush to the steel to be fully effective..

Yes you would be correct if the build had collapsed onto a floor below which was completely flat as well, and didn't have structural core columns and reinforced concrete.

The term squibs is a term used in the demolition industry as pockets of air which are seen when a building is demoed, as the force of the explosion pushes the air out. And actually you can paint thermite on and it dries as a clear resin and then when lit is extremely deadly!"

Thermite would have ignited the second the planes struck and would have been seen for miles around.

A squib is a small explosive charge, nothing to do with air pockets keep going though, this is fun...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"http://youtu.be/Zv7BImVvEyk

Watch that and tell me it's NOT a controlled demolition. You must be the mental one if you believe that to not be a controlled demo!

Now who's sounding arrogant ?

The guy who's presented actual evidence something which you haven't so if you have nothing to contribute don't bother!

Trouble is its not actual evidence, its just another conspiracy theory...

Well it's a damn sight better than your explanation, which was.. Nothing!

Two jet planes, loaded with fuel and travelling at 400mph isn't a logical explanation then?

Sure beats secret demo.experts placing shape.charges and thermite without anyone noticing and the fact it somehow survived the impact and.fie to be successfully detonate d "

Well if the charges were set lower down the building on the main structural columns then of course they'd withstand the impact because they're nearly 100 floors down where there were no fires or damage, I mean there was people seen where the plane had impacted so the flames couldn't have been that severe?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'd like to know who dropped the ball off the top of WTC when it started to collapse and did they find said ball?

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By *atisfy janeWoman  over a year ago

Torquay


"I'd like to know who dropped the ball off the top of WTC when it started to collapse and did they find said ball?"

You mean to tell me that some skiving sod was playing basketball on the roof when the planes hit?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" not to mention the squibs you see (air pockets) that are seen exploding out of the windows floors below whilst the building collapses. How do you explain that?

simple experiment, take 2 equal sized pieces of mdf place some talc or flour on the top of the bottom one..

hold the 2nd one parralel to the first and drop it onto the 1st..

the displaced air wil be pushed outward, the flour will show it..

its very simple, may even be physics or probably just common sense..

to say that the towers were set with a demolition ring main and shaped cutting charges were used to drop them is la la..

you cant build that sort of system into a building without it being noticed as it has to be on the steel, and you cant sneak in overnight to do so on the scale and size required...

FYI when cutting steel the shaped charge has to be flush to the steel to be fully effective..

Yes you would be correct if the build had collapsed onto a floor below which was completely flat as well, and didn't have structural core columns and reinforced concrete.

The term squibs is a term used in the demolition industry as pockets of air which are seen when a building is demoed, as the force of the explosion pushes the air out. And actually you can paint thermite on and it dries as a clear resin and then when lit is extremely deadly!

Thermite would have ignited the second the planes struck and would have been seen for miles around.

A squib is a small explosive charge, nothing to do with air pockets keep going though, this is fun..."

No it wouldn't have as it could have been set on the columns in the basement, which didn't come in to contact with flames.

And I'm fully aware of what a squib is having worked for a demolition contractor, but keep going it is fun

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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Ok calmd down people, surely you can debate without the need to goad people.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


" there was people seen where the plane had impacted so the flames couldn't have been that severe? "

think they were tbh, severe enough to force people to jump in any case..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" not to mention the squibs you see (air pockets) that are seen exploding out of the windows floors below whilst the building collapses. How do you explain that?

simple experiment, take 2 equal sized pieces of mdf place some talc or flour on the top of the bottom one..

hold the 2nd one parralel to the first and drop it onto the 1st..

the displaced air wil be pushed outward, the flour will show it..

its very simple, may even be physics or probably just common sense..

to say that the towers were set with a demolition ring main and shaped cutting charges were used to drop them is la la..

you cant build that sort of system into a building without it being noticed as it has to be on the steel, and you cant sneak in overnight to do so on the scale and size required...

FYI when cutting steel the shaped charge has to be flush to the steel to be fully effective..

Yes you would be correct if the build had collapsed onto a floor below which was completely flat as well, and didn't have structural core columns and reinforced concrete.

The term squibs is a term used in the demolition industry as pockets of air which are seen when a building is demoed, as the force of the explosion pushes the air out. And actually you can paint thermite on and it dries as a clear resin and then when lit is extremely deadly!

Thermite would have ignited the second the planes struck and would have been seen for miles around.

A squib is a small explosive charge, nothing to do with air pockets keep going though, this is fun...

No it wouldn't have as it could have been set on the columns in the basement, which didn't come in to contact with flames.

And I'm fully aware of what a squib is having worked for a demolition contractor, but keep going it is fun"

But the building collapsed from the top, the whole world watched it happen. There were no charges 100 floors down or anywhere else. The floors gave way and couldn't support the floors above which caused a domino effect, simple.

Oh, I've set more shaped demo charges in my time than I care to remember too...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" not to mention the squibs you see (air pockets) that are seen exploding out of the windows floors below whilst the building collapses. How do you explain that?

simple experiment, take 2 equal sized pieces of mdf place some talc or flour on the top of the bottom one..

hold the 2nd one parralel to the first and drop it onto the 1st..

the displaced air wil be pushed outward, the flour will show it..

its very simple, may even be physics or probably just common sense..

to say that the towers were set with a demolition ring main and shaped cutting charges were used to drop them is la la..

you cant build that sort of system into a building without it being noticed as it has to be on the steel, and you cant sneak in overnight to do so on the scale and size required...

FYI when cutting steel the shaped charge has to be flush to the steel to be fully effective..

Yes you would be correct if the build had collapsed onto a floor below which was completely flat as well, and didn't have structural core columns and reinforced concrete.

The term squibs is a term used in the demolition industry as pockets of air which are seen when a building is demoed, as the force of the explosion pushes the air out. And actually you can paint thermite on and it dries as a clear resin and then when lit is extremely deadly!

Thermite would have ignited the second the planes struck and would have been seen for miles around.

A squib is a small explosive charge, nothing to do with air pockets keep going though, this is fun...

No it wouldn't have as it could have been set on the columns in the basement, which didn't come in to contact with flames.

And I'm fully aware of what a squib is having worked for a demolition contractor, but keep going it is fun

But the building collapsed from the top, the whole world watched it happen. There were no charges 100 floors down or anywhere else. The floors gave way and couldn't support the floors above which caused a domino effect, simple.

Oh, I've set more shaped demo charges in my time than I care to remember too..."

There is footage of squibs exploding from the side of the building moments before its brought down! You can see it for yourself.

And I'm sure you have alongside your firearm certificates

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By *at2Couple  over a year ago

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" not to mention the squibs you see (air pockets) that are seen exploding out of the windows floors below whilst the building collapses. How do you explain that?

simple experiment, take 2 equal sized pieces of mdf place some talc or flour on the top of the bottom one..

hold the 2nd one parralel to the first and drop it onto the 1st..

the displaced air wil be pushed outward, the flour will show it..

its very simple, may even be physics or probably just common sense..

to say that the towers were set with a demolition ring main and shaped cutting charges were used to drop them is la la..

you cant build that sort of system into a building without it being noticed as it has to be on the steel, and you cant sneak in overnight to do so on the scale and size required...

FYI when cutting steel the shaped charge has to be flush to the steel to be fully effective..

Yes you would be correct if the build had collapsed onto a floor below which was completely flat as well, and didn't have structural core columns and reinforced concrete.

The term squibs is a term used in the demolition industry as pockets of air which are seen when a building is demoed, as the force of the explosion pushes the air out. And actually you can paint thermite on and it dries as a clear resin and then when lit is extremely deadly!

Thermite would have ignited the second the planes struck and would have been seen for miles around.

A squib is a small explosive charge, nothing to do with air pockets keep going though, this is fun...

No it wouldn't have as it could have been set on the columns in the basement, which didn't come in to contact with flames.

And I'm fully aware of what a squib is having worked for a demolition contractor, but keep going it is fun"

As you worked for a demolition contractor please feel free to explain how WTC7 which was not hit by a plane and fell totally into its own foot print at almost terminal gravity velocity which happened hours after the twin towers came down and was filmed from a few different angles the inquiry it's self seemed to forget all about this building I wonder why ...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" not to mention the squibs you see (air pockets) that are seen exploding out of the windows floors below whilst the building collapses. How do you explain that?

simple experiment, take 2 equal sized pieces of mdf place some talc or flour on the top of the bottom one..

hold the 2nd one parralel to the first and drop it onto the 1st..

the displaced air wil be pushed outward, the flour will show it..

its very simple, may even be physics or probably just common sense..

to say that the towers were set with a demolition ring main and shaped cutting charges were used to drop them is la la..

you cant build that sort of system into a building without it being noticed as it has to be on the steel, and you cant sneak in overnight to do so on the scale and size required...

FYI when cutting steel the shaped charge has to be flush to the steel to be fully effective..

Yes you would be correct if the build had collapsed onto a floor below which was completely flat as well, and didn't have structural core columns and reinforced concrete.

The term squibs is a term used in the demolition industry as pockets of air which are seen when a building is demoed, as the force of the explosion pushes the air out. And actually you can paint thermite on and it dries as a clear resin and then when lit is extremely deadly!

Thermite would have ignited the second the planes struck and would have been seen for miles around.

A squib is a small explosive charge, nothing to do with air pockets keep going though, this is fun...

No it wouldn't have as it could have been set on the columns in the basement, which didn't come in to contact with flames.

And I'm fully aware of what a squib is having worked for a demolition contractor, but keep going it is fun

But the building collapsed from the top, the whole world watched it happen. There were no charges 100 floors down or anywhere else. The floors gave way and couldn't support the floors above which caused a domino effect, simple.

Oh, I've set more shaped demo charges in my time than I care to remember too...

There is footage of squibs exploding from the side of the building moments before its brought down! You can see it for yourself.

And I'm sure you have alongside your firearm certificates "

That's air being pushed out by the floors above collapsing.

I'll ignore the last part, as you know nothing about me...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" not to mention the squibs you see (air pockets) that are seen exploding out of the windows floors below whilst the building collapses. How do you explain that?

simple experiment, take 2 equal sized pieces of mdf place some talc or flour on the top of the bottom one..

hold the 2nd one parralel to the first and drop it onto the 1st..

the displaced air wil be pushed outward, the flour will show it..

its very simple, may even be physics or probably just common sense..

to say that the towers were set with a demolition ring main and shaped cutting charges were used to drop them is la la..

you cant build that sort of system into a building without it being noticed as it has to be on the steel, and you cant sneak in overnight to do so on the scale and size required...

FYI when cutting steel the shaped charge has to be flush to the steel to be fully effective..

Yes you would be correct if the build had collapsed onto a floor below which was completely flat as well, and didn't have structural core columns and reinforced concrete.

The term squibs is a term used in the demolition industry as pockets of air which are seen when a building is demoed, as the force of the explosion pushes the air out. And actually you can paint thermite on and it dries as a clear resin and then when lit is extremely deadly!

Thermite would have ignited the second the planes struck and would have been seen for miles around.

A squib is a small explosive charge, nothing to do with air pockets keep going though, this is fun...

No it wouldn't have as it could have been set on the columns in the basement, which didn't come in to contact with flames.

And I'm fully aware of what a squib is having worked for a demolition contractor, but keep going it is fun

As you worked for a demolition contractor please feel free to explain how WTC7 which was not hit by a plane and fell totally into its own foot print at almost terminal gravity velocity which happened hours after the twin towers came down and was filmed from a few different angles the inquiry it's self seemed to forget all about this building I wonder why ..."

The central column is blown out so that the build does not fall outwards towards any neighbouring buildings that's stand practise, shortly after you would detonate all other remaining columns so there is no structural support remaining in the building, bringing it down in a pancake fashion. Fire alone would not be sufficient to bring this building down, intact you can see the building crimp, which is the initial central column being blown.

Also here is a video of the squibs from the Twin Towers:

http://youtu.be/3gKv-6bivqo

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'd like to know who dropped the ball off the top of WTC when it started to collapse and did they find said ball?

You mean to tell me that some skiving sod was playing basketball on the roof when the planes hit?

Physics , gravity dropped balls ? Someone was talking balls anyway .

"

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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"

Also here is a video of the squibs from the Twin Towers:

http://youtu.be/3gKv-6bivqo

"

I looked....and although I have not looked into what you are claiming could have happened...that video did look like it had mini explosions in stages...a bit like the controlled explosion it showed too.

How odd.

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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Off to see if there is an explanation for it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Funny enough FEMA was in town the night before 9/11 (federal emergency management agency) and were running drills on terrorism.. Funny that

Also funny that the Government were running mock terror drills on 7/7 on the exact same stations at the exact same time as the real bombings.. Hmm how odd - http://youtu.be/sEbUQiYOGjU

Also Sandy Hooks shooting, funny enough another drill was being run the exact same day, at the exact same time 20 minutes away from the location of the school, the drill this time was for "children's danger in emergency attacks". Hmm very odd - http://youtu.be/VrngdgUixYg

I mean how the hell do you even explain that? What all three by chance were running drills that exact same day at the exact same time for the exact reason that had happened. Anyone smell that coffee yet?

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By *atisfy janeWoman  over a year ago

Torquay

I smell something....but it sure ain't coffee!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I smell something....but it sure ain't coffee!

"

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By *ezebelWoman  over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

At the risk of becoming part of the conspiracy theory Ive removed posts....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" not to mention the squibs you see (air pockets) that are seen exploding out of the windows floors below whilst the building collapses. How do you explain that?

simple experiment, take 2 equal sized pieces of mdf place some talc or flour on the top of the bottom one..

hold the 2nd one parralel to the first and drop it onto the 1st..

the displaced air wil be pushed outward, the flour will show it..

its very simple, may even be physics or probably just common sense..

to say that the towers were set with a demolition ring main and shaped cutting charges were used to drop them is la la..

you cant build that sort of system into a building without it being noticed as it has to be on the steel, and you cant sneak in overnight to do so on the scale and size required...

FYI when cutting steel the shaped charge has to be flush to the steel to be fully effective..

Yes you would be correct if the build had collapsed onto a floor below which was completely flat as well, and didn't have structural core columns and reinforced concrete.

The term squibs is a term used in the demolition industry as pockets of air which are seen when a building is demoed, as the force of the explosion pushes the air out. And actually you can paint thermite on and it dries as a clear resin and then when lit is extremely deadly!

Thermite would have ignited the second the planes struck and would have been seen for miles around.

A squib is a small explosive charge, nothing to do with air pockets keep going though, this is fun...

No it wouldn't have as it could have been set on the columns in the basement, which didn't come in to contact with flames.

And I'm fully aware of what a squib is having worked for a demolition contractor, but keep going it is fun

As you worked for a demolition contractor please feel free to explain how WTC7 which was not hit by a plane and fell totally into its own foot print at almost terminal gravity velocity which happened hours after the twin towers came down and was filmed from a few different angles the inquiry it's self seemed to forget all about this building I wonder why ...

The central column is blown out so that the build does not fall outwards towards any neighbouring buildings that's stand practise, shortly after you would detonate all other remaining columns so there is no structural support remaining in the building, bringing it down in a pancake fashion.

"

The problem with that theory is there were no central columns as such it was an exterior skeleton of steel and aluminium which supported the bulk of the weight as the twin towers needed to sway slightly in the wind. So blowout theory busted im afraid.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"At the risk of becoming part of the conspiracy theory Ive removed posts...."

Steel posts? From the towers???!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Funny enough FEMA was in town the night before 9/11 (federal emergency management agency) and were running drills on terrorism.. Funny that

Also funny that the Government were running mock terror drills on 7/7 on the exact same stations at the exact same time as the real bombings.. Hmm how odd - http://youtu.be/sEbUQiYOGjU

Also Sandy Hooks shooting, funny enough another drill was being run the exact same day, at the exact same time 20 minutes away from the location of the school, the drill this time was for "children's danger in emergency attacks". Hmm very odd - http://youtu.be/VrngdgUixYg

I mean how the hell do you even explain that? What all three by chance were running drills that exact same day at the exact same time for the exact reason that had happened. Anyone smell that coffee yet?"

So what was the motif for the American government to kill all those children at sandy hook ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Funny enough FEMA was in town the night before 9/11 (federal emergency management agency) and were running drills on terrorism.. Funny that

Also funny that the Government were running mock terror drills on 7/7 on the exact same stations at the exact same time as the real bombings.. Hmm how odd - http://youtu.be/sEbUQiYOGjU

Also Sandy Hooks shooting, funny enough another drill was being run the exact same day, at the exact same time 20 minutes away from the location of the school, the drill this time was for "children's danger in emergency attacks". Hmm very odd - http://youtu.be/VrngdgUixYg

I mean how the hell do you even explain that? What all three by chance were running drills that exact same day at the exact same time for the exact reason that had happened. Anyone smell that coffee yet?"

And just after a little research the same professor that suggested that Sandy Hook was a Drill is now saying the Boston Bombings is a drill.

So if you want to belief the nutty professor that's up to. Be careful posting in public forums though because it may be you they come after next.

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By *isscheekychops OP   Woman  over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

This is what i believe......I believe the government knew that an attack was going to take place however they were not sure how and when....I don't believe that the twin towers was a pre planned attack by the government however i believe that George bush was itching to attack Iraq. I have watched lots of programs about the twin towers and they have come up with a lot of evidence regarding the conspiary theory. I dont believe it myself and we will never know...however what i will remember is those that perished that fateful day....

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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Ok...there has been many times that people have complained when serious threads/discussions get hijacked by people being silly and spoiling it....and yet this is happening now with some people who normally do the complaining.

Leave the people to discuss in peace please unless you wan tto join in the debate.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Only a matter of time before we are hit again in the UK I fear.....

True.

And it seems like nothing is done about it

Even the russian president warned UK about being the heaven for all sort of wanna be terrorist

Oh I think plenty is being done about it....we just don't hear about it."

Exactly that, as terrorism is to cause fear. The less you hear about it the less it works. If it was plastered everywhere when a plot had been foiled. They would still be winning as everyone would be fearing the next attack. Or that's how I think it works anyway

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Funny enough FEMA was in town the night before 9/11 (federal emergency management agency) and were running drills on terrorism.. Funny that

Also funny that the Government were running mock terror drills on 7/7 on the exact same stations at the exact same time as the real bombings.. Hmm how odd - http://youtu.be/sEbUQiYOGjU

Also Sandy Hooks shooting, funny enough another drill was being run the exact same day, at the exact same time 20 minutes away from the location of the school, the drill this time was for "children's danger in emergency attacks". Hmm very odd - http://youtu.be/VrngdgUixYg

I mean how the hell do you even explain that? What all three by chance were running drills that exact same day at the exact same time for the exact reason that had happened. Anyone smell that coffee yet?"

drills are being held all the time,can you name all the times there have been drills with no major event following?

it never ceases to amaze me at some of the quotes from 9/11 hoax believers.

the idea of having a rational discussion with them is impossible because rationality went down the drain along time ago with them.

'there were explosions' haha,the building was on bloody fire,what else do you expect.

'the building should have fell like a tree'

the speed of the collapse would not allow anything but fall straight down on its self.

'it wouldnt have been that hot above the impact site'

ever been in a building fire? its bloody hot,even in full fire kit.

one thing the conspiracy nuts do give good entertainment

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By *or Fox SakeCouple  over a year ago

Thornaby

Either Bigdikse is the greatest wind up merchant in history or he's now cowering in his bunker fearing the Men In Black are going to knock on his door and arrest him for mentioning the Illuminati and the NWO... thank god he's got his tin foil helmet on to protect him from the alien mind rays.

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