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By *orthernJay OP Man 9 weeks ago
DXB / SG / Thailand Krabi |
I don’t watch much UK television, however, I caught an advert for Centrepoint that seems to be getting a lot of airplay.
As an expat, thankfully it’s not an issue I encounter; I’ve met/seen one, yes one, homeless person in three years living in SE Asia.
What’s peoples’ prevailing experience of homelessness  , better, worse, someone else’s problem or Prince William will fix it  |
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My experience of it is limited, mainly because I spend so little time in towns and cities. I don’t think he can fix it. I don’t think anyone can fix it in Britain. But I applaud him for trying and his efforts will undoubtedly raise awareness.
Homelessness can happen through so many reasons and I don’t believe our society is in a position to permanently address all of them. But if awareness, money and efforts can get those particular people at that moment in time off the streets, that’s a small win. |
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I think it's a very sad reflection on our society. Not just homelessness, but the rising proportion of people in a precarious economic position. Precariat class, as it is being called, by some economists. |
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"Makes me very angry. We leave our own nationals on the streets, and put none nationals up in hotels 
Mr F.
Zzzzzz 
 total cost of asylum hotels is only £2.9bn a year - fantastic value
Zzzzz "
So you obviously think our nationals sleeping on the streets is boring while none nationals are housed? |
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"Makes me very angry. We leave our own nationals on the streets, and put none nationals up in hotels
Mr F.
Zzzzzz
total cost of asylum hotels is only £2.9bn a year - fantastic value
Zzzzz
So you obviously think our nationals sleeping on the streets is boring while none nationals are housed? "
I don't find it boring. I find it boring that people are still banging on about it and throwing random figures and false statements around...
Did you ever give a shit about homelessness before?
Have you ever done anything to help the homeless?
Or are you just another one who blames those without a voice for the state of things? |
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Between the ages of 15 and 30, I was homeless a few times. Lived in a tent, sofa-surfed, stayed with at my mother's (and she hated actually having to help me, for once), supported housing (technically not homeless, but still not your own place).
Couldn't catch a break for years. Either relationships ending, lack of housing, some stupid decisions.
Did I remember seeing that thousands of potential new homes were cancelled? We simply don't have enough. We've got so many homeless, refugees and immigrants, with not enough places for them.
New generations are staying at home longer, because of the overall costs and lack of affordable housing. Rents are becoming insane these days, even a shared house is getting to the point it's barely worth it.
It's up to the country itself, to change and adjust to be able to accommodate such a massive increase in population in recent years. It's growing faster than we can handle.
The solution? I haven't the slightest idea. It's likely a combination of various ideas, rather than a single one. Nothing is ever that simple, especially on such a large scale. |
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Family is very important in Asia, it’s generally accepted that a family look after each other. I know in certain countries you cannot even claim any government benefits if you have relatives that are working.
No homeless here in Dubai, 100% employment and lots of options for very cheap accom - appartment partitions and bed spaces are normal way of life for low paid |
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"Makes me very angry. We leave our own nationals on the streets, and put none nationals up in hotels
Mr F.
Zzzzzz
total cost of asylum hotels is only £2.9bn a year - fantastic value
Zzzzz
So you obviously think our nationals sleeping on the streets is boring while none nationals are housed?
I don't find it boring. I find it boring that people are still banging on about it and throwing random figures and false statements around...
Did you ever give a shit about homelessness before?
Have you ever done anything to help the homeless?
Or are you just another one who blames those without a voice for the state of things?"
Yes we often do thanks, but you stick you your... Zzzzzzz attitude! 🤮 |
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By *AJMLKTV/TS 9 weeks ago
Burley |
"Makes me very angry. We leave our own nationals on the streets, and put none nationals up in hotels
Mr F.
Zzzzzz
total cost of asylum hotels is only £2.9bn a year - fantastic value
Zzzzz
So you obviously think our nationals sleeping on the streets is boring while none nationals are housed?
I don't find it boring. I find it boring that people are still banging on about it and throwing random figures and false statements around...
Did you ever give a shit about homelessness before?
Have you ever done anything to help the homeless?
Or are you just another one who blames those without a voice for the state of things?"
Who's throwing random figures around? The figure I mentioned is direct from the Home Office. And people are still "banging" on about it because homelessness is continuing problem, now getting worse because of the cold weather. Have some human decency mate, or go back to sleep if you want. Either's good |
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"Family is very important in Asia, it’s generally accepted that a family look after each other. I know in certain countries you cannot even claim any government benefits if you have relatives that are working."
That's very true. My ex is Filipino and they always accommodate family, regardless of the size of their house. They won't let family live on the streets. It's very sweet, but I couldn't handle the lack of privacy. It's pretty crazy how under each other's noses they get lol. |
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"Makes me very angry. We leave our own nationals on the streets, and put none nationals up in hotels
Mr F.
Zzzzzz
total cost of asylum hotels is only £2.9bn a year - fantastic value
Zzzzz
So you obviously think our nationals sleeping on the streets is boring while none nationals are housed?
I don't find it boring. I find it boring that people are still banging on about it and throwing random figures and false statements around...
Did you ever give a shit about homelessness before?
Have you ever done anything to help the homeless?
Or are you just another one who blames those without a voice for the state of things?
Yes we often do thanks, but you stick you your... Zzzzzzz attitude! 🤮"
I bet you do.  |
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"Makes me very angry. We leave our own nationals on the streets, and put none nationals up in hotels
Mr F.
Zzzzzz
total cost of asylum hotels is only £2.9bn a year - fantastic value
Zzzzz
So you obviously think our nationals sleeping on the streets is boring while none nationals are housed?
I don't find it boring. I find it boring that people are still banging on about it and throwing random figures and false statements around...
Did you ever give a shit about homelessness before?
Have you ever done anything to help the homeless?
Or are you just another one who blames those without a voice for the state of things?
Who's throwing random figures around? The figure I mentioned is direct from the Home Office. And people are still "banging" on about it because homelessness is continuing problem, now getting worse because of the cold weather. Have some human decency mate, or go back to sleep if you want. Either's good "
Human decency? Oh dear....
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"How dare those asylum seekers have a safe place to stay, after fleeing war and persecution for opposing religious and political beliefs....
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Because they're too easy to blame for other people's failures in life. Sad, isn't it... |
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Prince William won’t fix it on his own but good on him.. but if every one in uk made a small effort then we could all fix it . But homelessness is still one of them pushed under carpet things
I’m not going to be drawn on politics etc but when we give trillions to overseas wars and charities… but people at home have hunger and housing issues the old . Get your own house in order first comes to mind
We ignore homeless in uk more then any one wants to admit
Not sermon driven here or looking to cause offence |
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"How dare those asylum seekers have a safe place to stay, after fleeing war and persecution for opposing religious and political beliefs....
Because they're too easy to blame for other people's failures in life. Sad, isn't it..."
Why isn't your human decency reserved for nationals damn you!
It's clearly the 'non-nationals' fault we sold all our social housing off decades ago and used the money to fund tax cuts for the rich, rather than reinvest it. Leaving decades of financial strain on local authorities, handing over taxpayers money to private landlords. |
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Was homeless at 16 and then again at 21.
I now run a homeless foundation that gets food, clothingz basic medication and treatments for things like trench foot to those in need in Birmingham.
A big part of helping the homeless crisis will be reform of our mental health services and addiction help (not just drugs ir alcohol). I don't see either happening tbh. |
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To anyone bringing race or sex into the equation…. When you are cold and homeless out there .. It’s fucking cold and fucking hard and it won’t make a difference if you black brown white or male or female … if you can help at Xmas with food or money it helps but as some excellent poster here have said .. it’s social change that is needed and we don’t demand it of our leaders the way we should .. we kick into long grass then ignore the fundamental reasons .. blaming a group go people is …. Well missing the point .. blame me blame yourself and blame everyone
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By *AJMLKTV/TS 9 weeks ago
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"How dare those asylum seekers have a safe place to stay, after fleeing war and persecution for opposing religious and political beliefs....
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The largest group in 2022 to cross the channel were Albanian, currently the largest group in 2024 are Vietnamese. No wars in either of those countries, so yay for them!  |
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"How dare those asylum seekers have a safe place to stay, after fleeing war and persecution for opposing religious and political beliefs....
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It's not that simple or binary though is it?
Having millions of people from wherever, who have no jobs and are a strain on all of our resources is going to be challenge. Unless you think somehow there should be free houses for all? I don't know the answer but adding more and more homeless people to it isn't fixing any problem. |
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By *a LunaWoman 9 weeks ago
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I was a group of volunteers that did some painting at a homeless shelter many years ago in Cardiff. The “lounge” area was quite depressing. They didn’t have a tv as the last one was thrown out of a window and the sofa was tatty because they get destroyed regularly.
We were told not to interact with anyone there as there was a high chance of violence, due to drugs/drink.
Other than that, my experience has been seeing homeless folk sleeping rough in tents. I no longer work in a large City so I don’t see it as much as I once did.
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By *AJMLKTV/TS 9 weeks ago
Burley |
"Makes me very angry. We leave our own nationals on the streets, and put none nationals up in hotels
Mr F.
Zzzzzz
total cost of asylum hotels is only £2.9bn a year - fantastic value
Zzzzz
So you obviously think our nationals sleeping on the streets is boring while none nationals are housed?
I don't find it boring. I find it boring that people are still banging on about it and throwing random figures and false statements around...
Did you ever give a shit about homelessness before?
Have you ever done anything to help the homeless?
Or are you just another one who blames those without a voice for the state of things?
Who's throwing random figures around? The figure I mentioned is direct from the Home Office. And people are still "banging" on about it because homelessness is continuing problem, now getting worse because of the cold weather. Have some human decency mate, or go back to sleep if you want. Either's good
Human decency? Oh dear....
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Well, I'm sorry that having human decency is so abhorrent to you. "Man of peace" - Oh dear.
A very happy Marxmas to you and yours |
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"Makes me very angry. We leave our own nationals on the streets, and put none nationals up in hotels
Mr F.
Zzzzzz
total cost of asylum hotels is only £2.9bn a year - fantastic value
Zzzzz
So you obviously think our nationals sleeping on the streets is boring while none nationals are housed?
I don't find it boring. I find it boring that people are still banging on about it and throwing random figures and false statements around...
Did you ever give a shit about homelessness before?
Have you ever done anything to help the homeless?
Or are you just another one who blames those without a voice for the state of things?
Who's throwing random figures around? The figure I mentioned is direct from the Home Office. And people are still "banging" on about it because homelessness is continuing problem, now getting worse because of the cold weather. Have some human decency mate, or go back to sleep if you want. Either's good
Human decency? Oh dear....
Well, I'm sorry that having human decency is so abhorrent to you. "Man of peace" - Oh dear.
A very happy Marxmas to you and yours "
Farage is recruiting right now. |
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By *AJMLKTV/TS 9 weeks ago
Burley |
"Makes me very angry. We leave our own nationals on the streets, and put none nationals up in hotels
Mr F.
Zzzzzz
total cost of asylum hotels is only £2.9bn a year - fantastic value
Zzzzz
So you obviously think our nationals sleeping on the streets is boring while none nationals are housed?
I don't find it boring. I find it boring that people are still banging on about it and throwing random figures and false statements around...
Did you ever give a shit about homelessness before?
Have you ever done anything to help the homeless?
Or are you just another one who blames those without a voice for the state of things?
Who's throwing random figures around? The figure I mentioned is direct from the Home Office. And people are still "banging" on about it because homelessness is continuing problem, now getting worse because of the cold weather. Have some human decency mate, or go back to sleep if you want. Either's good
Human decency? Oh dear....
Well, I'm sorry that having human decency is so abhorrent to you. "Man of peace" - Oh dear.
A very happy Marxmas to you and yours
Farage is recruiting right now. "
Ah, the lazy and unsubtle "right wing" accusation that we all know and love. Top marks. The politics forum's to your left  |
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Every govt of every colour has had homelessness as a problem … can’t we see its wider then party politics
Right blame left .. left blame right .. blah blah blah ..
Fucking cold and hungry on the streets |
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By *AYENCouple 9 weeks ago
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"I don’t watch much UK television, however, I caught an advert for Centrepoint that seems to be getting a lot of airplay.
As an expat, thankfully it’s not an issue I encounter; I’ve met/seen one, yes one, homeless person in three years living in SE Asia.
What’s peoples’ prevailing experience of homelessness , better, worse, someone else’s problem or Prince William will fix it "
It's warm over there, so perhaps it doesn't seem so bad, but aren't the shanty towns, of which they're are many in SE Asia, akin to homelessness? K. |
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"How dare those asylum seekers have a safe place to stay, after fleeing war and persecution for opposing religious and political beliefs....
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I have a friend who runs charitable housing for assylum seekers, you seem very keen for it, would you be willing to house one in your home?
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There was a survey done on homelessness in London a good few years ago. 80% of them were ex Forces.
There are various variables which cause the high percentage. I will not go into details on here.
As ex Forces my self. I think by the grace of God go I. |
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"There was a survey done on homelessness in London a good few years ago. 80% of them were ex Forces.
There are various variables which cause the high percentage. I will not go into details on here.
As ex Forces my self. I think by the grace of God go I. "
Spot on. I did quite a bit of work for them (and others) in the past.
Unfortunately my experience is that most seem stuck, accept their fate and remain homeless. The hostels etc that are laid on are rife with bullying, abuse and everything you can imagine so most prefer the streets.
Again, my experience and perception. |
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"There was a survey done on homelessness in London a good few years ago. 80% of them were ex Forces.
There are various variables which cause the high percentage. I will not go into details on here.
As ex Forces my self. I think by the grace of God go I.
Spot on. I did quite a bit of work for them (and others) in the past.
Unfortunately my experience is that most seem stuck, accept their fate and remain homeless. The hostels etc that are laid on are rife with bullying, abuse and everything you can imagine so most prefer the streets.
Again, my experience and perception."
A friend does work in a homeless hostel and some of the stories I've heard are shocking. No wonder some prefer the streets. |
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I've worked for Shelter over Christmas before now and they operated from a local secondary school. I have fond memories of these Christmases.
Some very tragic stories though. And some people were so very interesting. The smallest change in circumstance led to catastrophic results. |
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By *inkShyWoman 9 weeks ago
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There's a lot of homelessness where I live. I think busier towns and cities have more, partly because there are more residents overall, but also more foot traffic = more possible donations/food given so they tend to congregate in certain areas. We also have a fair few tourists who often give money which became common knowledge, and there's a big police/army presence so they are somewhat safer than being in Central London.
It was sad during the wedding when they were "moved along" for the day, but not seemingly given much more help than what the media were told (safe haven for the day).
There's A LOT of charity work, homeless support and private companies doing community service days in my area. |
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"There was a survey done on homelessness in London a good few years ago. 80% of them were ex Forces.
There are various variables which cause the high percentage. I will not go into details on here.
As ex Forces my self. I think by the grace of God go I. "
In maidenhead High Street we have the beeeg eeeshooo seller... A while ago an strapping fella set up a stall next to her... Ex forces homeless charity he was stood all day greeting and talking to folks with a smile on his face. He was there for a few weeks but then didn't come back. We are not great at looking after out forces and especially ex forces. |
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There are many causes of homelessness
Makes me angry the government/ministry of defence have 10,000 long term empty mod homes lying vacant (search bbc article online).
And the 5000 ‘buffer’ hotel rooms for possible spike in small boats arrivals, those rooms cost £600,000 a day and are all empty, why can’t they be also used for homelessness.
And all the empty shops and offices, why can’t councils use them temporarily to get people off the streets |
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I'm massively thankful that I haven't ever had to experience it first-hand but I read somewhere that it's estimated that most people are something crazy like just two major events away from a mental health crisis which is a major cause of homelessness.
This Christmas I'm taking to the streets with a group of local business people to hand out essentials (hats, gloves, socks, etc) to the homeless and share a friendly word. |
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By *og-ManMan 9 weeks ago
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In Dublin lots of volunteers get together in a hall called the RDS and cook dinner for about 600 old people and homeless people on Christmas day
Companies donate the food and for those too old to make it we deliver 2 chilled dinners and lots of Christmas goodies to their house or flat or homeless shelter on Christmas morning
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By (user no longer on site) 9 weeks ago
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Ex forces should never have to be homeless 
Making accommodation at barracks would be suitable for some, but not for others who may have trauma.
There are some housing cooperatives near me where you have 4-6 people in a house contributing their labour to the house as well as cheaper rent.
Like mentioned above, there isn't just one solution.
I've faced homelessness when my rented home was sold, it can happen so suddenly. 2 months isn't enough time so sort a new home on the doorstep let alone changing location, schools, jobs etc.
Many "hidden" homeless without a permanent home. |
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I’m fortunate enough to not have experienced it, when I’ve looked into it though there’s so many issues, there isn’t one particular thing you can do to resolve it. One recurring theme I read about is that no matter how many times some people are provided job opportunities and somewhere to stay, they can’t maintain it and revert back to the streets. We shouldn’t stop trying but we need to understand that not everyone wants what ‘we’ see as help. |
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"Ex forces should never have to be homeless
Making accommodation at barracks would be suitable for some, but not for others who may have trauma.
There are some housing cooperatives near me where you have 4-6 people in a house contributing their labour to the house as well as cheaper rent.
Like mentioned above, there isn't just one solution.
I've faced homelessness when my rented home was sold, it can happen so suddenly. 2 months isn't enough time so sort a new home on the doorstep let alone changing location, schools, jobs etc.
Many "hidden" homeless without a permanent home."
"In 2023, the UK spent £4.3 billion on housing asylum seekers, which was 28% of the UK's total aid budget. This was an increase from £3.7 billion in 2022. "
Puts it in perspective!  |
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"Ex forces should never have to be homeless
Making accommodation at barracks would be suitable for some, but not for others who may have trauma.
There are some housing cooperatives near me where you have 4-6 people in a house contributing their labour to the house as well as cheaper rent.
Like mentioned above, there isn't just one solution.
I've faced homelessness when my rented home was sold, it can happen so suddenly. 2 months isn't enough time so sort a new home on the doorstep let alone changing location, schools, jobs etc.
Many "hidden" homeless without a permanent home."
No doubt Liz Truss’ decisions that led to sudden rises in rent and mortgages will have impacted many too. I’m sorry you’ve been put in such a precarious position. |
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"Ex forces should never have to be homeless
Making accommodation at barracks would be suitable for some, but not for others who may have trauma.
There are some housing cooperatives near me where you have 4-6 people in a house contributing their labour to the house as well as cheaper rent.
Like mentioned above, there isn't just one solution.
I've faced homelessness when my rented home was sold, it can happen so suddenly. 2 months isn't enough time so sort a new home on the doorstep let alone changing location, schools, jobs etc.
Many "hidden" homeless without a permanent home."
Yes this. I was technically homeless at 17 as I didn't like the people I lived with (dead parents so loving elsewhere). It wouldn't happen today with an under 18 but back then I was just in a hostel so had no fixed address. I went to uni at 18 so was pretty short term but really could have gone another way. |
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"Ex forces should never have to be homeless
Making accommodation at barracks would be suitable for some, but not for others who may have trauma.
There are some housing cooperatives near me where you have 4-6 people in a house contributing their labour to the house as well as cheaper rent.
Like mentioned above, there isn't just one solution.
I've faced homelessness when my rented home was sold, it can happen so suddenly. 2 months isn't enough time so sort a new home on the doorstep let alone changing location, schools, jobs etc.
Many "hidden" homeless without a permanent home.
"In 2023, the UK spent £4.3 billion on housing asylum seekers, which was 28% of the UK's total aid budget. This was an increase from £3.7 billion in 2022. "
Puts it in perspective! "
With the best will in the world, it all comes down to money. And we should be aware what's being spent on our behalf and where. |
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"Ex forces should never have to be homeless
Making accommodation at barracks would be suitable for some, but not for others who may have trauma.
There are some housing cooperatives near me where you have 4-6 people in a house contributing their labour to the house as well as cheaper rent.
Like mentioned above, there isn't just one solution.
I've faced homelessness when my rented home was sold, it can happen so suddenly. 2 months isn't enough time so sort a new home on the doorstep let alone changing location, schools, jobs etc.
Many "hidden" homeless without a permanent home.
No doubt Liz Truss’ decisions that led to sudden rises in rent and mortgages will have impacted many too. I’m sorry you’ve been put in such a precarious position."
We need to think about the impact on people of living in such precarious circumstances. It is not optimal - it inhibits their productivity not just causes distress and suffering. And It's not an economic necessity. It's not a wealth quantity issue, it's a wealth distribution issue. |
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By (user no longer on site) 9 weeks ago
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"I don’t watch much UK television, however, I caught an advert for Centrepoint that seems to be getting a lot of airplay.
As an expat, thankfully it’s not an issue I encounter; I’ve met/seen one, yes one, homeless person in three years living in SE Asia.
What’s peoples’ prevailing experience of homelessness , better, worse, someone else’s problem or Prince William will fix it "
I live in a very quiet village. I have seen homeless people in the big town and it breaks my heart. We have an amazing charity there which we support.
Personally I will not approach people because of a very bad experience I have had but I contact the charity and they go out.
I can not imagine what it is like out on the streets and its a hell no one should have to endure.x |
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"I don’t watch much UK television, however, I caught an advert for Centrepoint that seems to be getting a lot of airplay.
As an expat, thankfully it’s not an issue I encounter; I’ve met/seen one, yes one, homeless person in three years living in SE Asia.
What’s peoples’ prevailing experience of homelessness , better, worse, someone else’s problem or Prince William will fix it "
The royals could fix it. They have a lot of spare bedrooms.
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"I don’t watch much UK television, however, I caught an advert for Centrepoint that seems to be getting a lot of airplay.
As an expat, thankfully it’s not an issue I encounter; I’ve met/seen one, yes one, homeless person in three years living in SE Asia.
What’s peoples’ prevailing experience of homelessness , better, worse, someone else’s problem or Prince William will fix it
The royals could fix it. They have a lot of spare bedrooms.
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As do many people. Maybe even yourself. Take someone in? |
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"Prince William can't fix it. I don't know if he believes he can and I'm not sure what his plans are"
What is the "it" and what does "fixing it" mean. UK population is over 69m now. Forecast to grow by 2.2m net immigration by 2030. So even if we had home for everyone now, that means 2.2m homes need to be found in the next 6 years. What does fixing it mean.? |
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"What would you do when you see a person regulary in a car. Parked in the same place every day as you pass. with empty tinned beans over the dashboard?
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First thing is to chat to them.
We had a guy camping not far of our land, the main thing he wanted was water.
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I think not having a home is one of the worst things imaginable or at least, a space that is secure, provides warmth and is a place you can call your own. Everyone should have a roof over their head.
Yet again, the Scandinavian's are the example with very low rates. But we aren't very good at following examples of what other countries do well, look at the Covid debarcle.
I don't believe the solution lies with stopping immigration/migration. Alot of people are forced into the position due to the fact they can't stay afloat with the burden of the rising costs of standard bills/rents and the companies take no mercy on them.
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"Breaking news!
Bad life choices have consequences for many.
Wow... Just wow!
Are you that ignorant that you think homeless people are homeless because they made a bad choice in life? "
No, no you’re right of course.
It’s always everybody else’s fault and they’re always just victims of circumstances that nobody could have possibly foreseen. |
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