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"Not hard at all if you have something to actually talk to them about I find."
100%. When we used to accept messages from single men it would involve a dick pic of some sort and a message saying what would you do? 🤦♀️ |
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Good god another whinging bloke not getting a response your post itself shows to me this is a whoa whoa whoa is me type.
No one has to respond to anyone and so fact you seem to expect a response gives impression of arrogance.
Many blokes struggle on here I have lucky over the years I have been on fab.
I count is as an honour if lucky enough to meet someone and if a couple being allowed into this part of life.
Never ever assume but yes hope 😬 |
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"Good god another whinging bloke not getting a response your post itself shows to me this is a whoa whoa whoa is me type.
No one has to respond to anyone and so fact you seem to expect a response gives impression of arrogance.
Many blokes struggle on here I have lucky over the years I have been on fab.
I count is as an honour if lucky enough to meet someone and if a couple being allowed into this part of life.
Never ever assume but yes hope 😬"
Well said x |
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By (user no longer on site) 6 weeks ago
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Chill and enjoy the site.
Participate in forums and webchats
Let ladies see what type of bloke you are and Maybe, just maybe you'll get a reply.
My advice, pop some pics on, be fun on your profile and be unique when messaging  |
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It’s not just single men that struggle with getting replies so wouldn’t beat yourself up over it. We’ve sent lots of messages to people and 4 weeks later they still haven’t been opened. We don’t think to much into it and just carry on as normal |
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Depends what your first message is ... "how's you ? " hey hun " and dick pics get immediately deleted .
Yeah we are here ultimately for a shag , but for some people it's more than that, it's mental as well as physical, and given that it's an online forum , mental is the first thing that should be addressed surely?
Feel free to correct me if I'm off base ! 😊 |
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By *8on33Man 6 weeks ago
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"It’s not just single men that struggle with getting replies so wouldn’t beat yourself up over it. We’ve sent lots of messages to people and 4 weeks later they still haven’t been opened. We don’t think to much into it and just carry on as normal "
Yes but as a couple you will always receive messages not always the messages you want or from the people you want but messages, some people need a leg up here and the single guy another single guy who in this case can accommodate is asking for help I guess and much as it doesn't do me any good especially if he's good looking with abs tatts and a beard and smooth down below (no pics )so can't tell but we should help him .
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Thank you to the genuine advice aprieciate it and to the others who claims that I'm whinging etc do you know me ,? Do you know the context in which this thread was posted ? No stereotyped me without offering any advice . |
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"Thank you to the genuine advice aprieciate it and to the others who claims that I'm whinging etc do you know me ,? Do you know the context in which this thread was posted ? No stereotyped me without offering any advice . "
You were given advice though, to ask for profile advice as forum rules say no unsolicited profile advice.
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"Thank you to the genuine advice aprieciate it and to the others who claims that I'm whinging etc do you know me ,? Do you know the context in which this thread was posted ? No stereotyped me without offering any advice . "
Welcome to the forums OP.
If you hang around long enough (usually a couple of hours) you will see someone else asking literally the same question. |
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"How hard is it to even get a response from women on here ? I think the amount of men to women ratio is ridiculous
Yup. Let's chuck all the men off "
*sticks on the stockings and heels, I’m trans now! |
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There’s tonnes of other forum threads from men asking the same question. For a start, get a profile picture, some public photos and an appealing bio. Hardly any women will even bother to read a message without a photo being available. |
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"Thank you to the genuine advice aprieciate it and to the others who claims that I'm whinging etc do you know me ,? Do you know the context in which this thread was posted ? No stereotyped me without offering any advice . "
I've stopped giving advice. It seems to have the end result of facing a forum time out and probably another blocking from a hottie.
So in the spirit of reform...
Awesome profile buddy. They will be queuing up for you in no time. Sit back and relax. |
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"Thank you to the genuine advice aprieciate it and to the others who claims that I'm whinging etc do you know me ,? Do you know the context in which this thread was posted ? No stereotyped me without offering any advice .
You were given advice though, to ask for profile advice as forum rules say no unsolicited profile advice.
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That's not what the rules say. |
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"Don't allow any more men to join and make all women meet one new man each week 
An average man at that! 😂😂😂
..and once a month a man with no hair "
Hey what about us fellas that are not new and have been here for years.. surely we should get a meet firat before the new people.
Get in line newbies |
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By (user no longer on site) 6 weeks ago
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"Don't allow any more men to join and make all women meet one new man each week
An average man at that! 😂😂😂
..and once a month a man with no hair "
Haha hey I resemble that remark  |
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By *opeyXWoman 6 weeks ago
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"How hard is it to even get a response from women on here ? I think the amount of men to women ratio is ridiculous
Yup. Let's chuck all the men off
Autocorrect has done you this time 😉"
No I meant chuck. Not suck or fuck! |
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"How hard is it to even get a response from women on here ? I think the amount of men to women ratio is ridiculous
Yup. Let's chuck all the men off
Autocorrect has done you this time 😉
No I meant chuck. Not suck or fuck! "
Hahaha of course you did. |
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By (user no longer on site) 6 weeks ago
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"Thank you to the genuine advice aprieciate it and to the others who claims that I'm whinging etc do you know me ,? Do you know the context in which this thread was posted ? No stereotyped me without offering any advice .
You were given advice though, to ask for profile advice as forum rules say no unsolicited profile advice.
That's not what the rules say. "
No nit-picking please
Unless someone specifically asks for their profile to be critiqued or if it's relevant to the thread e.g. someone is wondering why they're not having success, please don't critique their profile or be mean about it. We want the forum to be open and friendly to newbies and everyone starts somewhere.
OP'S original post was how hard is it to get a reply, my opinion is posts after this are trying to steer OP to look at his profile which is half help and half answering. He hasn't specifically asked for profile advice and grey area if it's relevent |
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"I must be doing something wrong because I send a message and I get a response. Have I accidentally left myself on the "training mode" or something? "
Most of the time here too. Maybe we're on platinum level |
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Others have probably said this already so sorry if i'm repeating.
There's probably 10,000 men to every woman on here so you're up against a lot of guys.
First your profile doesn't stand out, no photos, verifications and little info on profile.
Women tend to get 250 messages a day so your message needs to stand out, be imaginative and don't write the obvious.
I don't have an issue with messaging women. |
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I think that it very much depends in who you contact and how you address them in that message.
I've heard from women and couples how some men are when messaging and I can fully understand why they would be ignored.
As others have said, your profile has to be interesting to them too and photos,either sent in the message or on your profile, are important. |
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"Am the same i message woman same message not my type will find someone but im scouse so aint giving up hope dont do IF BUTS OR MAYBES DO ABSOLUTES HAHA HAPPY FABBING  "
I'm sure you do well buddy. |
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"Don't allow any more men to join and make all women meet one new man each week
An average man at that! 😂😂😂
..and once a month a man with no hair
Hey what about us fellas that are not new and have been here for years.. surely we should get a meet firat before the new people.
Get in line newbies"
I had a meet on the evening of my first day in here.
I never realised that it was difficult really at first.
I thought that every day must be like that! |
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"Thank you to the genuine advice aprieciate it and to the others who claims that I'm whinging etc do you know me ,? Do you know the context in which this thread was posted ? No stereotyped me without offering any advice .
You were given advice though, to ask for profile advice as forum rules say no unsolicited profile advice.
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It is within the rules to give advice if it's relevant though.
And 'why am I not getting replies' is relevant. As evidenced by the replies about op lack of photos.
OP if you don't have a profile photo your messages will be automatically ignored by the vast majority. People want to know what you look like.
No attraction = no interaction.
Effort is sexy |
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"Don't allow any more men to join and make all women meet one new man each week "
Looking at fabs as a simple easy count of interest.
At around 250-1400 fabs per picture, that would mean a 5 to 30 or so year waiting list at that rate. And that's after I've already blocked half the site and know that most messages I get asking for sex haven't actually fabbed a picture 💜 |
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"Thank you to the genuine advice aprieciate it and to the others who claims that I'm whinging etc do you know me ,? Do you know the context in which this thread was posted ? No stereotyped me without offering any advice .
You were given advice though, to ask for profile advice as forum rules say no unsolicited profile advice.
That's not what the rules say. "
I wasn’t actually aware there were any rules that detail what you can and cannot say in the forums about profile advice.
Just looked through the FAQs etc and not found them.
I am now wondering if these “rules” are another myth like Big Harold. |
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By (user no longer on site) 6 weeks ago
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"Thank you to the genuine advice aprieciate it and to the others who claims that I'm whinging etc do you know me ,? Do you know the context in which this thread was posted ? No stereotyped me without offering any advice .
You were given advice though, to ask for profile advice as forum rules say no unsolicited profile advice.
That's not what the rules say.
I wasn’t actually aware there were any rules that detail what you can and cannot say in the forums about profile advice.
Just looked through the FAQs etc and not found them.
I am now wondering if these “rules” are another myth like Big Harold."
From the rules...
No nit-picking please
Unless someone specifically asks for their profile to be critiqued or if it's relevant to the thread e.g. someone is wondering why they're not having success, please don't critique their profile or be mean about it. We want the forum to be open and friendly to newbies and everyone starts somewhere. |
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"Thank you to the genuine advice aprieciate it and to the others who claims that I'm whinging etc do you know me ,? Do you know the context in which this thread was posted ? No stereotyped me without offering any advice .
You were given advice though, to ask for profile advice as forum rules say no unsolicited profile advice.
That's not what the rules say.
I wasn’t actually aware there were any rules that detail what you can and cannot say in the forums about profile advice.
Just looked through the FAQs etc and not found them.
I am now wondering if these “rules” are another myth like Big Harold."
There's an additional page for forum rules |
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"Thank you to the genuine advice aprieciate it and to the others who claims that I'm whinging etc do you know me ,? Do you know the context in which this thread was posted ? No stereotyped me without offering any advice .
You were given advice though, to ask for profile advice as forum rules say no unsolicited profile advice.
That's not what the rules say.
I wasn’t actually aware there were any rules that detail what you can and cannot say in the forums about profile advice.
Just looked through the FAQs etc and not found them.
I am now wondering if these “rules” are another myth like Big Harold.
From the rules...
No nit-picking please
Unless someone specifically asks for their profile to be critiqued or if it's relevant to the thread e.g. someone is wondering why they're not having success, please don't critique their profile or be mean about it. We want the forum to be open and friendly to newbies and everyone starts somewhere."
Where is that link? |
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It's realistic to expect that only a very tiny minority will be mutually compatible. Thus your replies should reflect this. Nobody has to reply to unsolicited mail, any more than you write back after every TV afvert, or junk mail, to say no thanks. In Fab, rules are explicitly clear that no o reply = no thanks.
It doesn't matter if there's 1 man or 10,000 men mailing, if they're not mutually compatible, there's no benefit to anyone to continue any contact.
If you're selling yourself completely honestly and to the best of your ability, going to socials and clubs, you are doing what you can. |
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You're a drop in an ocean. There are so many single guys, it can get unbearable for single women and couples on here to reply to every message. Just keeping, you'll find someone eventually. Profile pics, verifications and a good bio do make you stand out though. |
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"Thank you to the genuine advice aprieciate it and to the others who claims that I'm whinging etc do you know me ,? Do you know the context in which this thread was posted ? No stereotyped me without offering any advice .
You were given advice though, to ask for profile advice as forum rules say no unsolicited profile advice.
That's not what the rules say.
I wasn’t actually aware there were any rules that detail what you can and cannot say in the forums about profile advice.
Just looked through the FAQs etc and not found them.
I am now wondering if these “rules” are another myth like Big Harold.
From the rules...
No nit-picking please
Unless someone specifically asks for their profile to be critiqued or if it's relevant to the thread e.g. someone is wondering why they're not having success, please don't critique their profile or be mean about it. We want the forum to be open and friendly to newbies and everyone starts somewhere.
Where is that link?"
Just discovered that the only place the rules are listed are if you are actually the OP and creating a thread. As far as I can tell they are not visible to anyone else (at least on mobile).
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By *aven.Woman 6 weeks ago
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"Thank you to the genuine advice aprieciate it and to the others who claims that I'm whinging etc do you know me ,? Do you know the context in which this thread was posted ? No stereotyped me without offering any advice .
You were given advice though, to ask for profile advice as forum rules say no unsolicited profile advice.
That's not what the rules say.
I wasn’t actually aware there were any rules that detail what you can and cannot say in the forums about profile advice.
Just looked through the FAQs etc and not found them.
I am now wondering if these “rules” are another myth like Big Harold.
From the rules...
No nit-picking please
Unless someone specifically asks for their profile to be critiqued or if it's relevant to the thread e.g. someone is wondering why they're not having success, please don't critique their profile or be mean about it. We want the forum to be open and friendly to newbies and everyone starts somewhere.
Where is that link?
Just discovered that the only place the rules are listed are if you are actually the OP and creating a thread. As far as I can tell they are not visible to anyone else (at least on mobile).
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Click reply and quote. It's at the top in blue. |
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"Thank you to the genuine advice aprieciate it and to the others who claims that I'm whinging etc do you know me ,? Do you know the context in which this thread was posted ? No stereotyped me without offering any advice .
You were given advice though, to ask for profile advice as forum rules say no unsolicited profile advice.
That's not what the rules say.
I wasn’t actually aware there were any rules that detail what you can and cannot say in the forums about profile advice.
Just looked through the FAQs etc and not found them.
I am now wondering if these “rules” are another myth like Big Harold.
From the rules...
No nit-picking please
Unless someone specifically asks for their profile to be critiqued or if it's relevant to the thread e.g. someone is wondering why they're not having success, please don't critique their profile or be mean about it. We want the forum to be open and friendly to newbies and everyone starts somewhere.
Where is that link?
Just discovered that the only place the rules are listed are if you are actually the OP and creating a thread. As far as I can tell they are not visible to anyone else (at least on mobile).
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They don't show up in a Google search either. At least not for me. They used to.
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By *a LunaWoman 6 weeks ago
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OP you’ e only been here 3 weeks! Rome was not built in a day.
But if you want women to flock to you then you’ve got to give them something to flock to. A few pics. Some witty profile banter. And most of all, no bemoaning the fact you’re not knee deep in clunge after 3 weeks!
Patience. |
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"You’ve not asked for profile advice so can’t give it .
Yes you can, it's in the rules.
I’ll take this up with admin as I’ve been banned for it before "
They actually say:
No nit-picking please
Unless someone specifically asks for their profile to be critiqued or if it's relevant to the thread e.g. someone is wondering why they're not having success, please don't critique their profile or be mean about it. We want the forum to be open and friendly to newbies and everyone starts somewhere. |
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Where is that link?
Just discovered that the only place the rules are listed are if you are actually the OP and creating a thread. As far as I can tell they are not visible to anyone else (at least on mobile).
Click reply and quote. It's at the top in blue."
As you all were.
Nothing to see here  |
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"You’ve not asked for profile advice so can’t give it .
Yes you can, it's in the rules.
I’ll take this up with admin as I’ve been banned for it before
They actually say:
No nit-picking please
Unless someone specifically asks for their profile to be critiqued or if it's relevant to the thread e.g. someone is wondering why they're not having success, please don't critique their profile or be mean about it. We want the forum to be open and friendly to newbies and everyone starts somewhere. "
Relevant and mean are both very subjective. A mod may not interpret either the same way as a poster does. |
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"You’ve not asked for profile advice so can’t give it .
Yes you can, it's in the rules.
I’ll take this up with admin as I’ve been banned for it before
They actually say:
No nit-picking please
Unless someone specifically asks for their profile to be critiqued or if it's relevant to the thread e.g. someone is wondering why they're not having success, please don't critique their profile or be mean about it. We want the forum to be open and friendly to newbies and everyone starts somewhere.
Relevant and mean are both very subjective. A mod may not interpret either the same way as a poster does."
In fairness 'what did you expect, look at the state of your profile' is a very common answer' and 'here comes another guy moaning' is another classic. Both mean, both tolerated. |
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"How hard is it to even get a response from women on here ? I think the amount of men to women ratio is ridiculous "
The answer to your first question is ‘it’s quite easy’. I would qualify that by saying ‘if you have a good profile, have something interesting to say, have something to offer that’s different to the other guys, are socially adept and aren’t a complete and utter tossed’
The ratio: is actually irrelevant. The reason I say that is because if you can manage what I outlined above, then the number of men on here doesn’t matter. The more jerk-offs there are, the better the chances for those who do get replies and sex. |
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"Relevant and mean are both very subjective. A mod may not interpret either the same way as a poster does.
In fairness 'what did you expect, look at the state of your profile' is a very common answer' and 'here comes another guy moaning' is another classic. Both mean, both tolerated."
Some mods have banned for less in my opinion, but it is all subjective. And that's just the way it goes. In the wrong mood the nitpicking of those people's posts is against the rules too. You can choose how carefully you want to tread. |
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"Relevant and mean are both very subjective. A mod may not interpret either the same way as a poster does.
In fairness 'what did you expect, look at the state of your profile' is a very common answer' and 'here comes another guy moaning' is another classic. Both mean, both tolerated.
Some mods have banned for less in my opinion, but it is all subjective. And that's just the way it goes. In the wrong mood the nitpicking of those people's posts is against the rules too. You can choose how carefully you want to tread."
I've done my time on the naughty step |
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By *iko34Man 6 weeks ago
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"I must be doing something wrong because I send a message and I get a response. Have I accidentally left myself on the "training mode" or something? "
I liked this comment just made my day can't stop laughing |
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To be fair to the Op, he has made the effort to go on Cam and get cam verified. He hasn't been here very long and will not be aware there are lots of similar threads to this one.
It's responses like some of those above to newbies that make them leave Fab.
Cut the guy some slack.. |
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By *ucka39Man 6 weeks ago
Newcastle |
"The ratio can only effect your own surrounding area, then it's what effort has been made and if each other finds them attractive needs to go both ways "
Plus many only meet at clubs, then you've got those only on weekends either morning or evening, then those certain days through the week seems a lot easier than trying to get a dentist appointment 🤣😂 |
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"Thank you to the genuine advice aprieciate it and to the others who claims that I'm whinging etc do you know me ,? Do you know the context in which this thread was posted ? No stereotyped me without offering any advice .
You were given advice though, to ask for profile advice as forum rules say no unsolicited profile advice.
That's not what the rules say.
I wasn’t actually aware there were any rules that detail what you can and cannot say in the forums about profile advice.
Just looked through the FAQs etc and not found them.
I am now wondering if these “rules” are another myth like Big Harold.
There's an additional page for forum rules "
There is?
So big Harold lives in this place too? |
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Imagine not desperately wanting a packet of crisps but you’d take a bag if they were really spectacular crisps.
And you have the marketing director for what looks like, describes its self as and is verified by other customers as a bloody good crisp that ticks all of your crisp needs. In your emails.
Daily.
And all other marketing directors from all different brands all the way down to mccoys
Also offering to come and deliver you a lifetime supply aswell. To your door, for free? And all of these brands offer a spectacular experience.
Day in, day out.
And then some unknown and untested brand that doesn’t even have a picture of the packet rocks up into your email.
How likely is it that you are going to open that email? |
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"Imagine not desperately wanting a packet of crisps but you’d take a bag if they were really spectacular crisps.
And you have the marketing director for what looks like, describes its self as and is verified by other customers as a bloody good crisp that ticks all of your crisp needs. In your emails.
Daily.
And all other marketing directors from all different brands all the way down to mccoys
Also offering to come and deliver you a lifetime supply aswell. To your door, for free? And all of these brands offer a spectacular experience.
Day in, day out.
And then some unknown and untested brand that doesn’t even have a picture of the packet rocks up into your email.
How likely is it that you are going to open that email?"
Are they cheese and onion crisps? |
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By *r TriomanMan 6 weeks ago
Chippenham Malmesbury area |
"Imagine not desperately wanting a packet of crisps but you’d take a bag if they were really spectacular crisps.
And you have the marketing director for what looks like, describes its self as and is verified by other customers as a bloody good crisp that ticks all of your crisp needs. In your emails.
Daily.
And all other marketing directors from all different brands all the way down to mccoys
Also offering to come and deliver you a lifetime supply aswell. To your door, for free? And all of these brands offer a spectacular experience.
Day in, day out.
And then some unknown and untested brand that doesn’t even have a picture of the packet rocks up into your email.
How likely is it that you are going to open that email?"
I don't like crisps |
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By (user no longer on site) 6 weeks ago
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Yeah tell em about it. The one reply I did get, the woman said she had 500 messages. So it’s not always you just the nature of sites in general. Even dating apps it’s skewed with more men than women |
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By *bi HaiveMan 6 weeks ago
Forum Mod Cheeseville, Somerset |
"As an experiment I just sent a message simply saying 'FAF?
Got a reply 22 minutes later. 🤷♂️
The power of the Moderator!"
I did cheat slightly.
Pays to know your audience. 😉😇😂
But that's true with every message. You're far more likely to be successful in getting a reply if you've prepared. Made sure you're profile is appealing, your photos likely to appeal rather than put off, and that you've read their profile text fully to ensure there's at least a chance you fit what they're seeking.
Still no guarantee, but it beats just firing off a message to all and sundry in hope. |
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By *bi HaiveMan 6 weeks ago
Forum Mod Cheeseville, Somerset |
"As an experiment I just sent a message simply saying 'FAF?
Got a reply 22 minutes later. 🤷♂️
How is your mum? "
Couldn't have been her. She'd not on here.
Think it's Tinder she's on.....🤔🤔 |
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"As an experiment I just sent a message simply saying 'FAF?
Got a reply 22 minutes later. 🤷♂️
The power of the Moderator!
I did cheat slightly.
Pays to know your audience. 😉😇😂
But that's true with every message. You're far more likely to be successful in getting a reply if you've prepared. Made sure you're profile is appealing, your photos likely to appeal rather than put off, and that you've read their profile text fully to ensure there's at least a chance you fit what they're seeking.
Still no guarantee, but it beats just firing off a message to all and sundry in hope. "
Haha I know. There's one or two I could get a reply from but from a noob, no chance would I send that 😂 |
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By *uzzleMan 6 weeks ago
Hastings |
Its the Fab 'norm' for single guys. The ratio is ridiculous, the cock to pussy ratio is probably like 100 to 1.
Fab is a really odd place, an average guy will not get a look in, whereas a far less than average women will have literally hundreds of messages and options. This then leads to guys getting fed up etc whereas the woman thinks she is an absolute Goddess (which isn't the case outside of Fab). This cycle continues.....
I prefer the forums to be be honest and am just on here or the crack.
Like the OP, I'm average but know my place in the pecking order, guys like me don't get a look in but its ok!! |
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"Its the Fab 'norm' for single guys. The ratio is ridiculous, the cock to pussy ratio is probably like 100 to 1.
Fab is a really odd place, an average guy will not get a look in, whereas a far less than average women will have literally hundreds of messages and options. This then leads to guys getting fed up etc whereas the woman thinks she is an absolute Goddess (which isn't the case outside of Fab). This cycle continues.....
I prefer the forums to be be honest and am just on here or the crack.
Like the OP, I'm average but know my place in the pecking order, guys like me don't get a look in but its ok!!"
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"How hard is it to even get a response from women on here ? I think the amount of men to women ratio is ridiculous "
It can be hard, especially as a newbie. You will probably need to manage your expectations a little. As you have stated the ratios are skewed, and the site has far more single men that all other profile types.
Your best bet is to spend some time on your profile. It's the first thing that anyone checks and is your shop window to show yourself off. You can send all the messages in the world, but people will always check your profile before replying, and if it's a rubbish shop window you won't stand a chance.
Be honest in what you are looking for and what you offer, post some pics, interact in the forums and chatrooms. In summary, make people aware of your presence and let them make their own minds up whether they wish to take it further. Don't just rely on messaging alone.
As an example, I note that you have been here for three weeks (which is nothing compared with many), and in that three weeks you have not contributed to any threads in the forum other than making this one. Have you seen that you have had 95 replies? I'm sure the number of views of your profile today has also shot up, so the proof is in the pudding that by increasing your interaction, you will attract more people to look at your shop window, and then maybe take it further.
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"How hard is it to even get a response from women on here ? I think the amount of men to women ratio is ridiculous "
What's the solution then OP?
Limit the # of single men?
Increase charges for single men?
Only allow single men if they get photo verified?
Make them sign up to a 12 month minimum?
Only allow single men that are pre-verified by couples or females through prior club meets?
I mean, the list is endless
Alternatively, you could do more to get noticed and get your foot in
Stop blaming your lack of meets on other guys and ratios of
Concentrate on you, your profile and how you interact with members
Whilst I get the frustration, bleating about it is about as far from sexy as you can get
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"Its the Fab 'norm' for single guys. The ratio is ridiculous, the cock to pussy ratio is probably like 100 to 1.
Fab is a really odd place, an average guy will not get a look in, whereas a far less than average women will have literally hundreds of messages and options. This then leads to guys getting fed up etc whereas the woman thinks she is an absolute Goddess (which isn't the case outside of Fab). This cycle continues.....
I prefer the forums to be be honest and am just on here or the crack.
Like the OP, I'm average but know my place in the pecking order, guys like me don't get a look in but its ok!!
Average?!! "
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The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
I just go to.clubs and socials (fabs for staying in touch) or outright chat women up when I'm out and about.
You just have to learn to do things the right way and employ methods that get results. How you do.that is up to you.
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