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By (user no longer on site) OP    5 weeks ago

And he loves you.

If you feel compelled to deny him, that’s the devil speaking. You are loved and not alone.

✝️

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By *usyBusyGirlWoman 5 weeks ago

Birmingham

Everything ok OP?

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By *avexxMan 5 weeks ago

cheshire

thank you father

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By *lovetoowatchMan 5 weeks ago

Sheffield

Someones on a mission

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By (user no longer on site) OP    5 weeks ago


"Everything ok OP?"

I’m just hoping it helps someone

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By *idnight_Express69Man 5 weeks ago

Rochdale


"And he loves you.

If you feel compelled to deny him, that’s the devil speaking. You are loved and not alone.

✝️"

That’s some circular logic you’ve got going on.

The burden of proof rests with you - and there is none.

Enjoy your day and your Bronze Age mythology.

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By *oastal1968Man 5 weeks ago

London

"Jesus saves!.... But Haaland scores of the rebound! Back of the net. Back to you in the studio Jeff..."

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By *ora the explorerWoman 5 weeks ago

Paradise, Herts

What if god was one of us

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By *n at the DeeP endCouple 5 weeks ago

Manchester


"And he loves you.

If you feel compelled to deny him, that’s the devil speaking. You are loved and not alone.

✝️"

He also sees all. He'll be thrilled to see you on fab

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By *ittleMissCali_MrDJCouple 5 weeks ago

wonderland.

Sorry OP but I don't believe in good and don't believe in the devil either.

I do have an interest in religion and find it interesting but nope...

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By *obyn GravesTV/TS 5 weeks ago

1127 walnut avenue

I've always been happy with the devil myself..👹 he's always had the best tunes...🎸 god needs to seriously work on his arse kicking musical output to get me interested..

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By *ayPrimeMan 5 weeks ago

Leeds

Nothing is real.

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By *orednFruityCouple 5 weeks ago

Nottingham


"And he loves you.

If you feel compelled to deny him, that’s the devil speaking. You are loved and not alone.

✝️"

No 'he' isn't. It is a 'man' made entity made and used to oppress and rule over people.

Religion is very very easy to explain:

When the first people started farming they had no knowledge of weather patterns, so when the crops died because of drought they believed they were being punished from the sky because the rain didn't fall.

Other more learned men knew about basic weather patterns and used that information to frighten the farmers unless they did something to appease the people of the sky.

This usually involved giving up some of their crops to the men that said they could appease the gods in the sky and obviously sometimes it did rain (because of weather patterns)

Skip forward a couple of thousand years and now there are over 3000 'gods' all that say they are the 'one and only God'

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By *rimson_RoseWoman 5 weeks ago

Tamworth

No.

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By *erts_CD71Man 5 weeks ago

Chiltern Hills


"What if god was one of us "

Just a slob like one of us

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By *r Black 85Man 5 weeks ago

nottingham


"What if god was one of us "

"just a slob like one of us,

just a stranger on the bus trying to make his way home"?

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By *n at the DeeP endCouple 5 weeks ago

Manchester

All religions seem to be/are based on religions from previous civilisations. Same stories, different names

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By *lovetoowatchMan 5 weeks ago

Sheffield

As a member of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster i can confirm Flying Spaghetti Monster is real

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By *8on33Man 5 weeks ago

winfrith


"Everything ok OP?"
Guess not hes left already god be with you .

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By (user no longer on site) 5 weeks ago

He's not going to get to love anyone on here without a verification

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By *erry bull1Man 5 weeks ago

doncaster

I’m a dyslexic atheist and dont believe in dog

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By *aven.Woman 5 weeks ago

Not the North West...

I don't believe in god, but I also don't feel the need to act like a prick and mock those that do.

Well done people

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By *MisschiefxTV/TS 5 weeks ago

London

He loves me more than you

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By (user no longer on site) 5 weeks ago

Everyone has a theory, but god doesn’t seem to be helping on this site, I pray most nights

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By *agatoXXXMan 5 weeks ago

Mordor

For once, I don't have to adk who left.

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By *n at the DeeP endCouple 5 weeks ago

Manchester

Thought OP was taking the piss at first but has left fab. Found god and changed their ways maybe...

Good luck to them. If it makes them happy, fair play.

A good friend of ours did the same about 2 years ago. We have some great debates about religion

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By *esmond and Molly JonesCouple 5 weeks ago

Watford


"And he loves you.

If you feel compelled to deny him, that’s the devil speaking. You are loved and not alone.

✝️"

Show me some proof. Oh you can't of course!

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By *ittleMissCali_MrDJCouple 5 weeks ago

wonderland.

OP has gone, that money must have just been resting in his account.

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By *elix SightedMan 5 weeks ago

Cloud 8

I think the devil got him

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By *huckyTiffWoman 5 weeks ago

Carterton

Hey, you do you boo. I mean, most of us who are on our knees on Sunday do it by choice, just most of us find it for a more fun reason

Kisses 😘

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By *ellhungvweMan 5 weeks ago

Cheltenham

I guess a Sunday is an apt day to chose.

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By *nightsoftheCoffeeTableCouple 5 weeks ago

Leeds

He definitely doesn’t, the last time I walked in his house the vicar melted.

The mr

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By *eronicaExplorerWoman 5 weeks ago

London

There is no salvation for my soul but to fall into temptation

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By *agatoXXXMan 5 weeks ago

Mordor


"He definitely doesn’t, the last time I walked in his house the vicar melted.

The mr "

Did he open the Ark of the Covenant?

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By *eandmrsjones69Couple 5 weeks ago

Middle England


"And he loves you.

If you feel compelled to deny him, that’s the devil speaking. You are loved and not alone.

✝️"

Praise be!

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By *rimson_RoseWoman 5 weeks ago

Tamworth


"OP has gone, that money must have just been resting in his account. "

Down with that sort of thing.

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By *ora the explorerWoman 5 weeks ago

Paradise, Herts


"And he loves you.

If you feel compelled to deny him, that’s the devil speaking. You are loved and not alone.

✝️

Praise be!"

Blessed be the fruit

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By *n at the DeeP endCouple 5 weeks ago

Manchester


"And he loves you.

If you feel compelled to deny him, that’s the devil speaking. You are loved and not alone.

✝️

Praise be!

Blessed be the fruit "

Blessed be the cheesemakers

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By *rsMistyPeaksWoman 5 weeks ago

Essex


"And he loves you.

If you feel compelled to deny him, that’s the devil speaking. You are loved and not alone.

✝️

Praise be!

Blessed be the fruit "

May the vag open

(Or was it Lord… I always forget)

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By *8on33Man 5 weeks ago

winfrith


"There is no salvation for my soul but to fall into temptation"
God is heading to the landing strip of love .

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By *elix SightedMan 5 weeks ago

Cloud 8


"And he loves you.

If you feel compelled to deny him, that’s the devil speaking. You are loved and not alone.

✝️

Praise be!

Blessed be the fruit

Blessed be the cheesemakers"

Is that meant to include manufactures of all dairy products?

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By *n at the DeeP endCouple 5 weeks ago

Manchester


"And he loves you.

If you feel compelled to deny him, that’s the devil speaking. You are loved and not alone.

✝️

Praise be!

Blessed be the fruit

Blessed be the cheesemakers

Is that meant to include manufactures of all dairy products?"

This film needs a rewatch

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By *atnip make me purrWoman 5 weeks ago

Reading

I think the devil just gets bad press.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple 5 weeks ago

North West


"For once, I don't have to adk who left."

Who left?

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By *ora the explorerWoman 5 weeks ago

Paradise, Herts


"And he loves you.

If you feel compelled to deny him, that’s the devil speaking. You are loved and not alone.

✝️

Praise be!

Blessed be the fruit

May the vag open

(Or was it Lord… I always forget)"

🤣 i think it was May the Lord open

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By *bxanfCouple 5 weeks ago

Shadow Moses, Stourbridge

Remember everyone, Jesus died for our sins, so remember to sin as much as possible so it wasn't in vein.

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By *earded BeastMan 5 weeks ago

durham

and i will strike down upon thee great vengeance

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By *rsMistyPeaksWoman 5 weeks ago

Essex


"And he loves you.

If you feel compelled to deny him, that’s the devil speaking. You are loved and not alone.

✝️

Praise be!

Blessed be the fruit

May the vag open

(Or was it Lord… I always forget)

🤣 i think it was May the Lord open "

I think that’s where I’ve been going wrong all these years then 🤣🤣

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By *imon the owlMan 5 weeks ago

barnsley

All you non believers. He is real, I’ve seen him. He used to wear number 8 for Sheffield Wednesday.

If you know, you know

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By *ora the explorerWoman 5 weeks ago

Paradise, Herts


"And he loves you.

If you feel compelled to deny him, that’s the devil speaking. You are loved and not alone.

✝️

Praise be!

Blessed be the fruit

May the vag open

(Or was it Lord… I always forget)

🤣 i think it was May the Lord open

I think that’s where I’ve been going wrong all these years then 🤣🤣"

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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By *eordieJeansCouple 5 weeks ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

I know I’m a knob but there’s some proper knobs on here. You expect everyone to accept your sexuality/gender/kinks/whatever but can’t accept someone with different beliefs to your own.

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By *agatoXXXMan 5 weeks ago

Mordor


"All you non believers. He is real, I’ve seen him. He used to wear number 8 for Sheffield Wednesday.

If you know, you know"

God is Gay. Or Gueye, as he spells it.

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By *egasus NobMan 5 weeks ago

Merton


"I know I’m a knob but there’s some proper knobs on here. You expect everyone to accept your sexuality/gender/kinks/whatever but can’t accept someone with different beliefs to your own."

My thought exactly 💯

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By *adger BrocMan 5 weeks ago

Co. Cork

If God was a woman she would have made cum taste like Baileys.

🥃🤣

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By *eordieJeansCouple 5 weeks ago

Newcastle upon Tyne


"I know I’m a knob but there’s some proper knobs on here. You expect everyone to accept your sexuality/gender/kinks/whatever but can’t accept someone with different beliefs to your own.

My thought exactly 💯"

Disgusting from people who are supposedly open minded.

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By *ittleMissCali_MrDJCouple 5 weeks ago

wonderland.


"OP has gone, that money must have just been resting in his account.

Down with that sort of thing. "

Careful now!

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By *rimson_RoseWoman 5 weeks ago

Tamworth


"I know I’m a knob but there’s some proper knobs on here. You expect everyone to accept your sexuality/gender/kinks/whatever but can’t accept someone with different beliefs to your own."

To a point, yes.

But the OP was the equivalent of saying spanking is the best and if you don’t enjoy it you’re in the wrong. And that’s not on.

Believe whatever you like but if you tell me a devil is speaking for me if I don’t believe in the Christian god, that isn’t ok either.

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By *eordieJeansCouple 5 weeks ago

Newcastle upon Tyne


"I know I’m a knob but there’s some proper knobs on here. You expect everyone to accept your sexuality/gender/kinks/whatever but can’t accept someone with different beliefs to your own.

To a point, yes.

But the OP was the equivalent of saying spanking is the best and if you don’t enjoy it you’re in the wrong. And that’s not on.

Believe whatever you like but if you tell me a devil is speaking for me if I don’t believe in the Christian god, that isn’t ok either. "

I have had religion pushed on me my whole life and still don’t ridicule the people doing it.

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By *rimson_RoseWoman 5 weeks ago

Tamworth


"I know I’m a knob but there’s some proper knobs on here. You expect everyone to accept your sexuality/gender/kinks/whatever but can’t accept someone with different beliefs to your own.

To a point, yes.

But the OP was the equivalent of saying spanking is the best and if you don’t enjoy it you’re in the wrong. And that’s not on.

Believe whatever you like but if you tell me a devil is speaking for me if I don’t believe in the Christian god, that isn’t ok either.

I have had religion pushed on me my whole life and still don’t ridicule the people doing it."

The ridiculing bit isn’t my style personally. But it’s not pretty to see on either side.

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By *cLovin2Man 5 weeks ago

Reading

Op kinda reminds me of those guys who used to walk around with placards saying "the end is nigh"

Whatever happened to them?

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By *rsMistyPeaksWoman 5 weeks ago

Essex


"I know I’m a knob but there’s some proper knobs on here. You expect everyone to accept your sexuality/gender/kinks/whatever but can’t accept someone with different beliefs to your own.

To a point, yes.

But the OP was the equivalent of saying spanking is the best and if you don’t enjoy it you’re in the wrong. And that’s not on.

Believe whatever you like but if you tell me a devil is speaking for me if I don’t believe in the Christian god, that isn’t ok either.

I have had religion pushed on me my whole life and still don’t ridicule the people doing it."

You ridicule plenty else though. Your shit stinks too.

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By *rsMistyPeaksWoman 5 weeks ago

Essex


"Op kinda reminds me of those guys who used to walk around with placards saying "the end is nigh"

Whatever happened to them? "

Cost of living. Placards aren’t cheap.

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By *ora the explorerWoman 5 weeks ago

Paradise, Herts


"I know I’m a knob but there’s some proper knobs on here. You expect everyone to accept your sexuality/gender/kinks/whatever but can’t accept someone with different beliefs to your own."

Nah. It’s the way they wrote it. Telling you what you should believe/feel etc. that’s different. I’ve always said I sometimes envy people who can get comfort from their faith.

I also don’t expect anyone on here to accept my kinks/sexuality etc. I’ve never been one to care what strangers think of what or who I do.

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By *cLovin2Man 5 weeks ago

Reading


"What if god was one of us "

What if he was Donald Trump?

Yes we would all be truly fucked.

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By *eordieJeansCouple 5 weeks ago

Newcastle upon Tyne


"I know I’m a knob but there’s some proper knobs on here. You expect everyone to accept your sexuality/gender/kinks/whatever but can’t accept someone with different beliefs to your own.

To a point, yes.

But the OP was the equivalent of saying spanking is the best and if you don’t enjoy it you’re in the wrong. And that’s not on.

Believe whatever you like but if you tell me a devil is speaking for me if I don’t believe in the Christian god, that isn’t ok either.

I have had religion pushed on me my whole life and still don’t ridicule the people doing it.

You ridicule plenty else though. Your shit stinks too. "

As I said… I’m a knob but would you mock a Muslim or a Jew? I don’t think you or anyone else on here would.

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By *toC Thats MeWoman 5 weeks ago

Sheffield

I don’t believe in god, or any religion for that matter.

Like everything in life each to their own, but don’t but your beliefs on others.

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By *ony MannMan 5 weeks ago

New York City New York USA

Which God?

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By *rimson_RoseWoman 5 weeks ago

Tamworth


"Op kinda reminds me of those guys who used to walk around with placards saying "the end is nigh"

Whatever happened to them?

Cost of living. Placards aren’t cheap."

This made me laugh - cheap paper only these days! They dissolve in the rain.

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By *ony MannMan 5 weeks ago

New York City New York USA


"I know I’m a knob but there’s some proper knobs on here. You expect everyone to accept your sexuality/gender/kinks/whatever but can’t accept someone with different beliefs to your own.

To a point, yes.

But the OP was the equivalent of saying spanking is the best and if you don’t enjoy it you’re in the wrong. And that’s not on.

Believe whatever you like but if you tell me a devil is speaking for me if I don’t believe in the Christian god, that isn’t ok either.

I have had religion pushed on me my whole life and still don’t ridicule the people doing it.

You ridicule plenty else though. Your shit stinks too.

As I said… I’m a knob but would you mock a Muslim or a Jew? I don’t think you or anyone else on here would."

Muslim, Jew, Christian, it's the same God.

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By *heBigLibowskiMan 5 weeks ago

Hampshire

They're right, you know.

I do love you.

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By *cLovin2Man 5 weeks ago

Reading


"And he loves you.

If you feel compelled to deny him, that’s the devil speaking. You are loved and not alone.

✝️

Praise be!

Blessed be the fruit

Blessed be the cheesemakers"

Surely that should read the cake makers?

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By *heBigLibowskiMan 5 weeks ago

Hampshire


"Muslim, Jew, Christian, it's the same God."

Salvation superheroes.

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By *aven.Woman 5 weeks ago

Not the North West...


"I don’t believe in god, or any religion for that matter.

Like everything in life each to their own, but don’t but your beliefs on others."

I hardly think making a thread is putting your belief on others.

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By *eordieJeansCouple 5 weeks ago

Newcastle upon Tyne


"I know I’m a knob but there’s some proper knobs on here. You expect everyone to accept your sexuality/gender/kinks/whatever but can’t accept someone with different beliefs to your own.

Nah. It’s the way they wrote it. Telling you what you should believe/feel etc. that’s different. I’ve always said I sometimes envy people who can get comfort from their faith.

I also don’t expect anyone on here to accept my kinks/sexuality etc. I’ve never been one to care what strangers think of what or who I do. "

Then call that out. Don’t ridicule. As I said above, I’ve had religion pushed on me my whole life. I just explain my position and tell them that I won’t push my beliefs on them so I don’t expect them to do it to me.

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By *ools and the brainCouple 5 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

Who was it?

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By *nlil and NinlilCouple 5 weeks ago

Nibiru


"I know I’m a knob but there’s some proper knobs on here. You expect everyone to accept your sexuality/gender/kinks/whatever but can’t accept someone with different beliefs to your own.

To a point, yes.

But the OP was the equivalent of saying spanking is the best and if you don’t enjoy it you’re in the wrong. And that’s not on.

Believe whatever you like but if you tell me a devil is speaking for me if I don’t believe in the Christian god, that isn’t ok either.

I have had religion pushed on me my whole life and still don’t ridicule the people doing it.

You ridicule plenty else though. Your shit stinks too.

As I said… I’m a knob but would you mock a Muslim or a Jew? I don’t think you or anyone else on here would.

Muslim, Jew, Christian, it's the same God."

Christians believe Jesus is God, but the Quran is so opposed to this belief that it condemns Jesus worshipers to Hell ([Qur’an] 5.72). For Christians, Jesus is certainly God, and for Muslims Jesus is certainly not God. How can it be said that Christians and Muslims worship the same God?

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By *ust want fun 888Man 5 weeks ago

nearby


"And he loves you.

If you feel compelled to deny him, that’s the devil speaking. You are loved and not alone.

✝️

No 'he' isn't. It is a 'man' made entity made and used to oppress and rule over people.

Religion is very very easy to explain:

When the first people started farming they had no knowledge of weather patterns, so when the crops died because of drought they believed they were being punished from the sky because the rain didn't fall.

Other more learned men knew about basic weather patterns and used that information to frighten the farmers unless they did something to appease the people of the sky.

This usually involved giving up some of their crops to the men that said they could appease the gods in the sky and obviously sometimes it did rain (because of weather patterns)

Skip forward a couple of thousand years and now there are over 3000 'gods' all that say they are the 'one and only God'"

Here here, enough said, that is all it is about, fear

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By *ora the explorerWoman 5 weeks ago

Paradise, Herts


"I know I’m a knob but there’s some proper knobs on here. You expect everyone to accept your sexuality/gender/kinks/whatever but can’t accept someone with different beliefs to your own.

Nah. It’s the way they wrote it. Telling you what you should believe/feel etc. that’s different. I’ve always said I sometimes envy people who can get comfort from their faith.

I also don’t expect anyone on here to accept my kinks/sexuality etc. I’ve never been one to care what strangers think of what or who I do.

Then call that out. Don’t ridicule. As I said above, I’ve had religion pushed on me my whole life. I just explain my position and tell them that I won’t push my beliefs on them so I don’t expect them to do it to me."

I didn’t. I just commented on someone else’s post re a tv program.

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By *eordieJeansCouple 5 weeks ago

Newcastle upon Tyne


"I know I’m a knob but there’s some proper knobs on here. You expect everyone to accept your sexuality/gender/kinks/whatever but can’t accept someone with different beliefs to your own.

To a point, yes.

But the OP was the equivalent of saying spanking is the best and if you don’t enjoy it you’re in the wrong. And that’s not on.

Believe whatever you like but if you tell me a devil is speaking for me if I don’t believe in the Christian god, that isn’t ok either.

I have had religion pushed on me my whole life and still don’t ridicule the people doing it.

You ridicule plenty else though. Your shit stinks too.

As I said… I’m a knob but would you mock a Muslim or a Jew? I don’t think you or anyone else on here would.

Muslim, Jew, Christian, it's the same God.

Christians believe Jesus is God, but the Quran is so opposed to this belief that it condemns Jesus worshipers to Hell ([Qur’an] 5.72). For Christians, Jesus is certainly God, and for Muslims Jesus is certainly not God. How can it be said that Christians and Muslims worship the same God?"

That is not true.

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By *cLovin2Man 5 weeks ago

Reading


"I know I’m a knob but there’s some proper knobs on here. You expect everyone to accept your sexuality/gender/kinks/whatever but can’t accept someone with different beliefs to your own.

To a point, yes.

But the OP was the equivalent of saying spanking is the best and if you don’t enjoy it you’re in the wrong. And that’s not on.

Believe whatever you like but if you tell me a devil is speaking for me if I don’t believe in the Christian god, that isn’t ok either.

I have had religion pushed on me my whole life and still don’t ridicule the people doing it.

You ridicule plenty else though. Your shit stinks too.

As I said… I’m a knob but would you mock a Muslim or a Jew? I don’t think you or anyone else on here would."

When we mock religion, surely that includes Judaism and islam no?

This from a former Muslim!

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By *eordieJeansCouple 5 weeks ago

Newcastle upon Tyne


"I know I’m a knob but there’s some proper knobs on here. You expect everyone to accept your sexuality/gender/kinks/whatever but can’t accept someone with different beliefs to your own.

Nah. It’s the way they wrote it. Telling you what you should believe/feel etc. that’s different. I’ve always said I sometimes envy people who can get comfort from their faith.

I also don’t expect anyone on here to accept my kinks/sexuality etc. I’ve never been one to care what strangers think of what or who I do.

Then call that out. Don’t ridicule. As I said above, I’ve had religion pushed on me my whole life. I just explain my position and tell them that I won’t push my beliefs on them so I don’t expect them to do it to me.

I didn’t. I just commented on someone else’s post re a tv program. "

Apologies. I assumed you were defending your position in your reply to me.

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By *eordieJeansCouple 5 weeks ago

Newcastle upon Tyne


"I know I’m a knob but there’s some proper knobs on here. You expect everyone to accept your sexuality/gender/kinks/whatever but can’t accept someone with different beliefs to your own.

To a point, yes.

But the OP was the equivalent of saying spanking is the best and if you don’t enjoy it you’re in the wrong. And that’s not on.

Believe whatever you like but if you tell me a devil is speaking for me if I don’t believe in the Christian god, that isn’t ok either.

I have had religion pushed on me my whole life and still don’t ridicule the people doing it.

You ridicule plenty else though. Your shit stinks too.

As I said… I’m a knob but would you mock a Muslim or a Jew? I don’t think you or anyone else on here would.

When we mock religion, surely that includes Judaism and islam no?

This from a former Muslim!"

In a way, yes but would the responses be the same if the OP said Allah is real?

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By *ora the explorerWoman 5 weeks ago

Paradise, Herts


"I know I’m a knob but there’s some proper knobs on here. You expect everyone to accept your sexuality/gender/kinks/whatever but can’t accept someone with different beliefs to your own.

Nah. It’s the way they wrote it. Telling you what you should believe/feel etc. that’s different. I’ve always said I sometimes envy people who can get comfort from their faith.

I also don’t expect anyone on here to accept my kinks/sexuality etc. I’ve never been one to care what strangers think of what or who I do.

Then call that out. Don’t ridicule. As I said above, I’ve had religion pushed on me my whole life. I just explain my position and tell them that I won’t push my beliefs on them so I don’t expect them to do it to me.

I didn’t. I just commented on someone else’s post re a tv program.

Apologies. I assumed you were defending your position in your reply to me."

Yeah it probably looked like that sorry x

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By *cLovin2Man 5 weeks ago

Reading


"I know I’m a knob but there’s some proper knobs on here. You expect everyone to accept your sexuality/gender/kinks/whatever but can’t accept someone with different beliefs to your own.

To a point, yes.

But the OP was the equivalent of saying spanking is the best and if you don’t enjoy it you’re in the wrong. And that’s not on.

Believe whatever you like but if you tell me a devil is speaking for me if I don’t believe in the Christian god, that isn’t ok either.

I have had religion pushed on me my whole life and still don’t ridicule the people doing it.

You ridicule plenty else though. Your shit stinks too.

As I said… I’m a knob but would you mock a Muslim or a Jew? I don’t think you or anyone else on here would.

Muslim, Jew, Christian, it's the same God.

Christians believe Jesus is God, but the Quran is so opposed to this belief that it condemns Jesus worshipers to Hell ([Qur’an] 5.72). For Christians, Jesus is certainly God, and for Muslims Jesus is certainly not God. How can it be said that Christians and Muslims worship the same God?"

Jews, Christians and Muslims have different interpretations of the historical activities of the same people like Noah, moses, Abraham etc.

They have areas of divergence but there's much more similarity than divergence. They're like 90% the same.

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By *espacito56Man 5 weeks ago

Orkney


"And he loves you.

If you feel compelled to deny him, that’s the devil speaking. You are loved and not alone.

✝️

That’s some circular logic you’ve got going on.

The burden of proof rests with you - and there is none.

Enjoy your day and your Bronze Age mythology. "

Exactly. Utter poppycock.

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By *eordieJeansCouple 5 weeks ago

Newcastle upon Tyne


"I know I’m a knob but there’s some proper knobs on here. You expect everyone to accept your sexuality/gender/kinks/whatever but can’t accept someone with different beliefs to your own.

Nah. It’s the way they wrote it. Telling you what you should believe/feel etc. that’s different. I’ve always said I sometimes envy people who can get comfort from their faith.

I also don’t expect anyone on here to accept my kinks/sexuality etc. I’ve never been one to care what strangers think of what or who I do.

Then call that out. Don’t ridicule. As I said above, I’ve had religion pushed on me my whole life. I just explain my position and tell them that I won’t push my beliefs on them so I don’t expect them to do it to me.

I didn’t. I just commented on someone else’s post re a tv program.

Apologies. I assumed you were defending your position in your reply to me.

Yeah it probably looked like that sorry x"

No worries

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By *cLovin2Man 5 weeks ago

Reading


"I know I’m a knob but there’s some proper knobs on here. You expect everyone to accept your sexuality/gender/kinks/whatever but can’t accept someone with different beliefs to your own.

To a point, yes.

But the OP was the equivalent of saying spanking is the best and if you don’t enjoy it you’re in the wrong. And that’s not on.

Believe whatever you like but if you tell me a devil is speaking for me if I don’t believe in the Christian god, that isn’t ok either.

I have had religion pushed on me my whole life and still don’t ridicule the people doing it.

You ridicule plenty else though. Your shit stinks too.

As I said… I’m a knob but would you mock a Muslim or a Jew? I don’t think you or anyone else on here would.

When we mock religion, surely that includes Judaism and islam no?

This from a former Muslim!

In a way, yes but would the responses be the same if the OP said Allah is real?"

He is real, he went to my school. I think he was an Arab dude. Yes he was called Allah.

Maybe the parents other kids were called Mohamed?

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By *renadier4Man 5 weeks ago

Codsall

This thread is endless and pointless. Just look what's going on in the Middle East right now!

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By *rsMistyPeaksWoman 5 weeks ago

Essex


"I know I’m a knob but there’s some proper knobs on here. You expect everyone to accept your sexuality/gender/kinks/whatever but can’t accept someone with different beliefs to your own.

To a point, yes.

But the OP was the equivalent of saying spanking is the best and if you don’t enjoy it you’re in the wrong. And that’s not on.

Believe whatever you like but if you tell me a devil is speaking for me if I don’t believe in the Christian god, that isn’t ok either.

I have had religion pushed on me my whole life and still don’t ridicule the people doing it.

You ridicule plenty else though. Your shit stinks too.

As I said… I’m a knob but would you mock a Muslim or a Jew? I don’t think you or anyone else on here would."

If there was a similar post, similar current literary reference etc - I’d probably make a similar comment.

I’m very much an equal opportunities piss taker.

I’m fairly sure you’re intelligent enough to realise that for some of us - it wasnt the particular flavour of religion that was mockable. It was the intent behind it & the immediate UNLOS. Whether it’s kink, religion, sexuality, marital status etc - when someone spouts off with no other agenda or thought process behind it - then a lot of us will react. That’s the ethos behind free speech. The OP is free to say what he likes, but we are equally as free to respond. There was nothing offensive, malicious or threatening in either comment.

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By *cnugatugMan 5 weeks ago

Chatham

I'm pagan I appreciate your thought but I don't need it I look towards mother nature for answers blessed be

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By *iltsTSgirlTV/TS 5 weeks ago

chichester


"And he loves you.

If you feel compelled to deny him, that’s the devil speaking. You are loved and not alone.

✝️"

Yes I am here mortals .. . just refer to me as the god emperor ..

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By *airyboxMan 5 weeks ago

sheffield

Thank you my children I am here

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By *eordieJeansCouple 5 weeks ago

Newcastle upon Tyne


"I know I’m a knob but there’s some proper knobs on here. You expect everyone to accept your sexuality/gender/kinks/whatever but can’t accept someone with different beliefs to your own.

To a point, yes.

But the OP was the equivalent of saying spanking is the best and if you don’t enjoy it you’re in the wrong. And that’s not on.

Believe whatever you like but if you tell me a devil is speaking for me if I don’t believe in the Christian god, that isn’t ok either.

I have had religion pushed on me my whole life and still don’t ridicule the people doing it.

You ridicule plenty else though. Your shit stinks too.

As I said… I’m a knob but would you mock a Muslim or a Jew? I don’t think you or anyone else on here would.

If there was a similar post, similar current literary reference etc - I’d probably make a similar comment.

I’m very much an equal opportunities piss taker.

I’m fairly sure you’re intelligent enough to realise that for some of us - it wasnt the particular flavour of religion that was mockable. It was the intent behind it & the immediate UNLOS. Whether it’s kink, religion, sexuality, marital status etc - when someone spouts off with no other agenda or thought process behind it - then a lot of us will react. That’s the ethos behind free speech. The OP is free to say what he likes, but we are equally as free to respond. There was nothing offensive, malicious or threatening in either comment."

I think you’re seriously overestimating my intelligence. The OP is gone so it’s a pointless argument anyway and I feel I’ve said all I want to say on it.

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By *ools and the brainCouple 5 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

Many years ago my girlfriend (now wife)

Said her aunt was coming to visit her could I let her in and make a drink if the aunt turns up before she gets home from work.

Of course I said.

Anyway sitting watching telly when there was a knock at the door.

Off I went to answer it and there was this oldish lady standing and smiling.

" Come in,come in (redacted) will be home soon"

In she comes I invite her to sit down whilst I make a cup of tea and cake.

We are chatting away talking about her journey and I say " ( wife's name) will be in soon"

Well about twenty minutes later I hear the front door and my wife's voice talking to someone as they come upstairs ( we lived in a first floor maisonette)

Wife walks in with another old lady.

Me pointing " who's that?"

Wife pointing at lady sat drinking tea "who's that?"

She then goes on to explain the lady with her is her auntie and very confused about the woman sitting in our home.

She then puts her hand into her handbag pulling out a copy of The Watchtower magazine and some pamphlets about the Kingdom of Jehovah.

Yep she was a Jehovah's witness and hadn't bothered to say anything.

Needless to say a few apologies and she was politely ushered out, but not before thrusting the pamphlets in our hands.

Every month for two years they turned up on our doorstep trying to convert us despite telling them many times "NOT INTERESTED"

this is a 100% genuine story and as funny as it is the moral is other than making sure it is aunty don't force your religious beliefs upon others.

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By *arla SwingerWoman 5 weeks ago

Somewhere


"I don't believe in god, but I also don't feel the need to act like a prick and mock those that do.

Well done people"

I agree... Religion is the popular pile on for people to take the piss these days 🙄

I'm not religious, I don't believe in a god as such. But, I believe in people. I believe that faith can massively help some that do believe in it. Also can on occasion also be detrimental, but there are two sides to every coin in life... I would never mock/take the piss out of those that do have faith in something. Because it's only bottom feeders who like to make themselves feel superior by belittling folk who they disagree with on something that has zero impact on themselves

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By *ophieslutTV/TS 5 weeks ago

Central

Probably the odds on each one of the thousands of gods that have been proposed, being actually real is about the same. I'm guessing it's nil and that others will come along, with similar probability of being real.

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By *nightsoftheCoffeeTableCouple 5 weeks ago

Leeds

God didn't even keep you around to see your thread unfold.

Mrs

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By *ife NinjaMan 5 weeks ago

Dunfermline

Don't do religion. Have a few de ja vu style experiences to make me think 'something' guides us. I'll expect the men in white coats soon

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By *ools and the brainCouple 5 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

Still.

Just imagine if God was real and the whole heaven and hell thing, sent to purgatory for all eternity.

I mean we are all properly fucked aren't we!!!

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By *ife NinjaMan 5 weeks ago

Dunfermline


"Still.

Just imagine if God was real and the whole heaven and hell thing, sent to purgatory for all eternity.

I mean we are all properly fucked aren't we!!!"

Least the heating bill would be sorted

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By *agatoXXXMan 5 weeks ago

Mordor


"Still.

Just imagine if God was real and the whole heaven and hell thing, sent to purgatory for all eternity.

I mean we are all properly fucked aren't we!!!"

If all the confessions and veris are true, nobody here is going to purgatory. The big burny fire, all the way down.

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By *ony MannMan 5 weeks ago

New York City New York USA


"Probably the odds on each one of the thousands of gods that have been proposed, being actually real is about the same. I'm guessing it's nil and that others will come along, with similar probability of being real.

"

I do believe that some Gods have a real person behind them, and many people have been turned into Gods. Mind language where it is difficult to translate a concept can get liberally translated. We only need to look at Satan, literally translated means competitor or opponent. In English it has come to mean evil.

God made us or was created by us, I don't know which.

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By *ools and the brainCouple 5 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.


"Still.

Just imagine if God was real and the whole heaven and hell thing, sent to purgatory for all eternity.

I mean we are all properly fucked aren't we!!!

Least the heating bill would be sorted "

Yeah I'm gonna find God and convert,I don't fancy being forced to watch reruns of love island for eternity.

That is MY Idea of hell.

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By *r Mrs FuckableCouple 5 weeks ago

Stoke

Ohhh the big sky man? ... Naah, that's all a load of bollox.

Mr F.

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By (user no longer on site) 5 weeks ago

Can we just insert Ten Haag instead of God on all the posts then we can all have a laugh!

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By *ot really famousMan 5 weeks ago

monaghan


"I’m a dyslexic atheist and dont believe in dog "
..im a dyslexic agnostic insomniac, I lie awake at night, wondering if there is a dog...

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By *inky_couple2020Couple 5 weeks ago

North West


"Can we just insert Ten Haag instead of God on all the posts then we can all have a laugh! "
the

Why, does anyone question the existence of Ten Hag? 🤔

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By *eordieJeansCouple 5 weeks ago

Newcastle upon Tyne


"Can we just insert Ten Haag instead of God on all the posts then we can all have a laugh! the

Why, does anyone question the existence of Ten Hag? 🤔"

I question the existence of his management.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple 5 weeks ago

North West


"Can we just insert Ten Haag instead of God on all the posts then we can all have a laugh! the

Why, does anyone question the existence of Ten Hag? 🤔

I question the existence of his management."

A valid existential question. But I think the evidence of his physical existence is beyond doubt

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman 5 weeks ago

Carlisle usually

I am loved and not alone, and not just because of imaginary friends 💜

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By *erfHerder74Man 5 weeks ago

Greenock


"And he loves you.

If you feel compelled to deny him, that’s the devil speaking. You are loved and not alone.

✝️"

What does he say about you being on this site?

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By (user no longer on site) 5 weeks ago

Hey that’s my dad you dising

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman 5 weeks ago

Carlisle usually


"And he loves you.

If you feel compelled to deny him, that’s the devil speaking. You are loved and not alone.

✝️

What does he say about you being on this site?"

They're not on the site any more 💜

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By *arla SwingerWoman 5 weeks ago

Somewhere


"And he loves you.

If you feel compelled to deny him, that’s the devil speaking. You are loved and not alone.

✝️

What does he say about you being on this site?"

They're no longer on here...

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By *inaTitzTV/TS 5 weeks ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

The OP must have popped out to church to bother god there.

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By *rightonsteveMan 5 weeks ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"The OP must have popped out to church to bother god there. "

Perhaps to be resurrected in another profile.

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By *rightonsteveMan 5 weeks ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Well, the OP had faith. Just like George Michael.

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By *ruceyyMan 5 weeks ago

London


"Well, the OP had faith. Just like George Michael. "

Who was the OP?! Wasn't my priest account was it?

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By *lowupdollTV/TS 5 weeks ago

Herts


"Well, the OP had faith. Just like George Michael. "

I assume he didn’t listen without prejudice though.

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By *n at the DeeP endCouple 5 weeks ago

Manchester


"Hey that’s my dad you dising "

The OP is your dad?

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By *lder.Woman 5 weeks ago

Not Local

She. She loves you.

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By *rightonsteveMan 5 weeks ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"Well, the OP had faith. Just like George Michael.

Who was the OP?! Wasn't my priest account was it?"

Ironic if the OP likes Judas Priest or Black Sabbath.

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By *agatoXXXMan 5 weeks ago

Mordor


"She. She loves you. "

We're all god's children,

And god is a woman,

But we still don't know who the father is...

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By *ornucopiaMan 5 weeks ago

Bexley


"Nothing is real. "

Are people getting mixed up with is rael?

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By *oastal1968Man 5 weeks ago

London


"She. She loves you. "

🎶🎶🎵Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!

And with a love like that you know you should be glad! Oooo!🎶🎵🎶

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By *agatoXXXMan 5 weeks ago

Mordor


"Nothing is real.

Are people getting mixed up with is rael?"

Imperial Aerosol Kid?

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By *eronicaExplorerWoman 5 weeks ago

London


"The OP must have popped out to church to bother god there.

Perhaps to be resurrected in another profile. "

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By *eronicaExplorerWoman 5 weeks ago

London


"Many years ago my girlfriend (now wife)

Said her aunt was coming to visit her could I let her in and make a drink if the aunt turns up before she gets home from work.

Of course I said.

Anyway sitting watching telly when there was a knock at the door.

Off I went to answer it and there was this oldish lady standing and smiling.

" Come in,come in (redacted) will be home soon"

In she comes I invite her to sit down whilst I make a cup of tea and cake.

We are chatting away talking about her journey and I say " ( wife's name) will be in soon"

Well about twenty minutes later I hear the front door and my wife's voice talking to someone as they come upstairs ( we lived in a first floor maisonette)

Wife walks in with another old lady.

Me pointing " who's that?"

Wife pointing at lady sat drinking tea "who's that?"

She then goes on to explain the lady with her is her auntie and very confused about the woman sitting in our home.

She then puts her hand into her handbag pulling out a copy of The Watchtower magazine and some pamphlets about the Kingdom of Jehovah.

Yep she was a Jehovah's witness and hadn't bothered to say anything.

Needless to say a few apologies and she was politely ushered out, but not before thrusting the pamphlets in our hands.

Every month for two years they turned up on our doorstep trying to convert us despite telling them many times "NOT INTERESTED"

this is a 100% genuine story and as funny as it is the moral is other than making sure it is aunty don't force your religious beliefs upon others.

"

Fantastic story. Love it

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By *earded BeastMan 5 weeks ago

durham


"I know I’m a knob but there’s some proper knobs on here. You expect everyone to accept your sexuality/gender/kinks/whatever but can’t accept someone with different beliefs to your own."

like Vegans

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By *ittleLiasonsWoman 5 weeks ago

Birmingham

It's one of those things that can't be proven or disproven, it's an individual choice to have faith or not to believe. Whichever way you go, respect the other person's right to have that view.

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By *erynewcouplenwCouple 5 weeks ago

warrington


"It's one of those things that can't be proven or disproven, it's an individual choice to have faith or not to believe. Whichever way you go, respect the other person's right to have that view. "

Spot on. If someone has faith and it brings them comfort or makes them a better person, why do people have to mock them.

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By *hePleasurerMan 5 weeks ago

Cheshire

OP seems to have gone. Is this because:

1. God called him home

2. A different God did him in

3. He lost his faith

Discuss.

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By *lowupdollTV/TS 5 weeks ago

Herts


"OP seems to have gone. Is this because:

1. God called him home

2. A different God did him in

3. He lost his faith

Discuss."

4. He’s upset because he has a Bible and he wants a Straightble.

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By *espacito56Man 5 weeks ago

Orkney


"And he loves you.

If you feel compelled to deny him, that’s the devil speaking. You are loved and not alone.

✝️

Yes I am here mortals .. . just refer to me as the god emperor .. "

God has great tits and a superb arse these days. I might convert.

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man 5 weeks ago

BRIDPORT


"OP seems to have gone. Is this because:

1. God called him home

2. A different God did him in

3. He lost his faith

Discuss."

I think their tea was ready

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By *usie pTV/TS 5 weeks ago

taunton

I am doomed

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By *r Mrs FuckableCouple 5 weeks ago

Stoke


"OP seems to have gone. Is this because:

1. God called him home

2. A different God did him in

3. He lost his faith

Discuss."

God number 1874 did him in! 🤷‍♂️

Mr F.

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By *ools and the brainCouple 5 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

Do we know if the op was a regular or just someone who joined to spam the forum or a wind up merchant?

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By *ora the explorerWoman 5 weeks ago

Paradise, Herts


"Do we know if the op was a regular or just someone who joined to spam the forum or a wind up merchant?"

Can’t remember the name but I know id never heard of them before

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By *ora the explorerWoman 5 weeks ago

Paradise, Herts


"Do we know if the op was a regular or just someone who joined to spam the forum or a wind up merchant?

Can’t remember the name but I know id never heard of them before "

It wasn’t that lady who sometimes posts religious things on here

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By *oinerbillMan 5 weeks ago

warrington


"It's one of those things that can't be proven or disproven, it's an individual choice to have faith or not to believe. Whichever way you go, respect the other person's right to have that view.

Spot on. If someone has faith and it brings them comfort or makes them a better person, why do people have to mock them."

People will always mock Christians, easy target

I am a Christian (yes i know im on here and ive slept with another mans wife etc) and it does make me a better person

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By *hePleasurerMan 5 weeks ago

Cheshire


"It's one of those things that can't be proven or disproven, it's an individual choice to have faith or not to believe. Whichever way you go, respect the other person's right to have that view.

Spot on. If someone has faith and it brings them comfort or makes them a better person, why do people have to mock them."

I'm all for respect, but it works both ways.

"If you feel compelled to deny him, that’s the devil speaking." Not much respect there!

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By *ophieslutTV/TS 5 weeks ago

Central

I've wondered how much Jesus knew. He didn't get portrayed as much of a know it all. Did he just get half of the facts?

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By *ansoffateMan 5 weeks ago

Sagittarius A

So what's with the whole burn in hell for eternity thing?

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By *ools and the brainCouple 5 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

WWJD ?

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By *idnight_Express69Man 5 weeks ago

Rochdale


"I know I’m a knob but there’s some proper knobs on here. You expect everyone to accept your sexuality/gender/kinks/whatever but can’t accept someone with different beliefs to your own.

To a point, yes.

But the OP was the equivalent of saying spanking is the best and if you don’t enjoy it you’re in the wrong. And that’s not on.

Believe whatever you like but if you tell me a devil is speaking for me if I don’t believe in the Christian god, that isn’t ok either.

I have had religion pushed on me my whole life and still don’t ridicule the people doing it.

You ridicule plenty else though. Your shit stinks too.

As I said… I’m a knob but would you mock a Muslim or a Jew? I don’t think you or anyone else on here would.

Muslim, Jew, Christian, it's the same God.

Christians believe Jesus is God, but the Quran is so opposed to this belief that it condemns Jesus worshipers to Hell ([Qur’an] 5.72). For Christians, Jesus is certainly God, and for Muslims Jesus is certainly not God. How can it be said that Christians and Muslims worship the same God?"

For someone able to quote Qu’ranic scripture, you don’t seem to have grasped the belief held by some Christians in the holy trinity.

God ‘the father’ is the same Abrahamic god as the God of the Torah and Allah in the Quran.

Muslims believe Issa is a prophet but not God made man. Christians worship God, not Jesus.

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By *nlil and NinlilCouple 5 weeks ago

Nibiru


"I know I’m a knob but there’s some proper knobs on here. You expect everyone to accept your sexuality/gender/kinks/whatever but can’t accept someone with different beliefs to your own.

To a point, yes.

But the OP was the equivalent of saying spanking is the best and if you don’t enjoy it you’re in the wrong. And that’s not on.

Believe whatever you like but if you tell me a devil is speaking for me if I don’t believe in the Christian god, that isn’t ok either.

I have had religion pushed on me my whole life and still don’t ridicule the people doing it.

You ridicule plenty else though. Your shit stinks too.

As I said… I’m a knob but would you mock a Muslim or a Jew? I don’t think you or anyone else on here would.

Muslim, Jew, Christian, it's the same God.

Christians believe Jesus is God, but the Quran is so opposed to this belief that it condemns Jesus worshipers to Hell ([Qur’an] 5.72). For Christians, Jesus is certainly God, and for Muslims Jesus is certainly not God. How can it be said that Christians and Muslims worship the same God?

For someone able to quote Qu’ranic scripture, you don’t seem to have grasped the belief held by some Christians in the holy trinity.

God ‘the father’ is the same Abrahamic god as the God of the Torah and Allah in the Quran.

Muslims believe Issa is a prophet but not God made man. Christians worship God, not Jesus.

"

Christians follow Jesus because He is the risen Son of God. The truth of His resurrection compels us to trust in Him as He is God and is worthy of our love, worship, and obedience. Yet still, the beauty of the Gospel is that in trusting Jesus, we find that He pours into us more than we could have expected or hoped for.

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By *nlil and NinlilCouple 5 weeks ago

Nibiru


"I know I’m a knob but there’s some proper knobs on here. You expect everyone to accept your sexuality/gender/kinks/whatever but can’t accept someone with different beliefs to your own.

To a point, yes.

But the OP was the equivalent of saying spanking is the best and if you don’t enjoy it you’re in the wrong. And that’s not on.

Believe whatever you like but if you tell me a devil is speaking for me if I don’t believe in the Christian god, that isn’t ok either.

I have had religion pushed on me my whole life and still don’t ridicule the people doing it.

You ridicule plenty else though. Your shit stinks too.

As I said… I’m a knob but would you mock a Muslim or a Jew? I don’t think you or anyone else on here would.

Muslim, Jew, Christian, it's the same God.

Christians believe Jesus is God, but the Quran is so opposed to this belief that it condemns Jesus worshipers to Hell ([Qur’an] 5.72). For Christians, Jesus is certainly God, and for Muslims Jesus is certainly not God. How can it be said that Christians and Muslims worship the same God?

For someone able to quote Qu’ranic scripture, you don’t seem to have grasped the belief held by some Christians in the holy trinity.

God ‘the father’ is the same Abrahamic god as the God of the Torah and Allah in the Quran.

Muslims believe Issa is a prophet but not God made man. Christians worship God, not Jesus.

Christians follow Jesus because He is the risen Son of God. The truth of His resurrection compels us to trust in Him as He is God and is worthy of our love, worship, and obedience. Yet still, the beauty of the Gospel is that in trusting Jesus, we find that He pours into us more than we could have expected or hoped for."

We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one Being with the Father. So we worship Jesus because of his divinity.

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By *rightonsteveMan 5 weeks ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Christianity is a relative new religion. Only been around a couple of thousand years or so. I’m confused as to why a newish religion is the one and only true religion and the old religions, such as paganism to use a broad term , that was in place for thousands of years prior, is not. It would be good to get an explanation.

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By *NormalMan01Man 5 weeks ago

Harrogate

Someone really wanted this to be the last thing they said on Fabs and I kinda dig it

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By *orny PTMan 5 weeks ago

Peterborough


"Someones on a mission

"

I prefer missionary.

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By *nlil and NinlilCouple 5 weeks ago

Nibiru


"I know I’m a knob but there’s some proper knobs on here. You expect everyone to accept your sexuality/gender/kinks/whatever but can’t accept someone with different beliefs to your own.

To a point, yes.

But the OP was the equivalent of saying spanking is the best and if you don’t enjoy it you’re in the wrong. And that’s not on.

Believe whatever you like but if you tell me a devil is speaking for me if I don’t believe in the Christian god, that isn’t ok either.

I have had religion pushed on me my whole life and still don’t ridicule the people doing it.

You ridicule plenty else though. Your shit stinks too.

As I said… I’m a knob but would you mock a Muslim or a Jew? I don’t think you or anyone else on here would.

Muslim, Jew, Christian, it's the same God.

Christians believe Jesus is God, but the Quran is so opposed to this belief that it condemns Jesus worshipers to Hell ([Qur’an] 5.72). For Christians, Jesus is certainly God, and for Muslims Jesus is certainly not God. How can it be said that Christians and Muslims worship the same God?

For someone able to quote Qu’ranic scripture, you don’t seem to have grasped the belief held by some Christians in the holy trinity.

God ‘the father’ is the same Abrahamic god as the God of the Torah and Allah in the Quran.

Muslims believe Issa is a prophet but not God made man. Christians worship God, not Jesus.

Christians follow Jesus because He is the risen Son of God. The truth of His resurrection compels us to trust in Him as He is God and is worthy of our love, worship, and obedience. Yet still, the beauty of the Gospel is that in trusting Jesus, we find that He pours into us more than we could have expected or hoped for.

We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one Being with the Father. So we worship Jesus because of his divinity."

I kinda like religous debates,the info IS out there,btw I am not religous but do like the idea of living the best you can be and helping your fellow man and if religion does teach to be kind and considerate it isnt the worst way to live your life is it

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By *rightonsteveMan 5 weeks ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"I know I’m a knob but there’s some proper knobs on here. You expect everyone to accept your sexuality/gender/kinks/whatever but can’t accept someone with different beliefs to your own.

To a point, yes.

But the OP was the equivalent of saying spanking is the best and if you don’t enjoy it you’re in the wrong. And that’s not on.

Believe whatever you like but if you tell me a devil is speaking for me if I don’t believe in the Christian god, that isn’t ok either.

I have had religion pushed on me my whole life and still don’t ridicule the people doing it.

You ridicule plenty else though. Your shit stinks too.

As I said… I’m a knob but would you mock a Muslim or a Jew? I don’t think you or anyone else on here would.

Muslim, Jew, Christian, it's the same God.

Christians believe Jesus is God, but the Quran is so opposed to this belief that it condemns Jesus worshipers to Hell ([Qur’an] 5.72). For Christians, Jesus is certainly God, and for Muslims Jesus is certainly not God. How can it be said that Christians and Muslims worship the same God?

For someone able to quote Qu’ranic scripture, you don’t seem to have grasped the belief held by some Christians in the holy trinity.

God ‘the father’ is the same Abrahamic god as the God of the Torah and Allah in the Quran.

Muslims believe Issa is a prophet but not God made man. Christians worship God, not Jesus.

Christians follow Jesus because He is the risen Son of God. The truth of His resurrection compels us to trust in Him as He is God and is worthy of our love, worship, and obedience. Yet still, the beauty of the Gospel is that in trusting Jesus, we find that He pours into us more than we could have expected or hoped for.

We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one Being with the Father. So we worship Jesus because of his divinity.

I kinda like religous debates,the info IS out there,btw I am not religous but do like the idea of living the best you can be and helping your fellow man and if religion does teach to be kind and considerate it isnt the worst way to live your life is it "

You’re not religious?

If not…why say this…” We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one Being with the Father. So we worship Jesus because of his divinity.”?

Sounds a tad religious.

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By *ornucopiaMan 5 weeks ago

Bexley


"I know I’m a knob but there’s some proper knobs on here. You expect everyone to accept your sexuality/gender/kinks/whatever but can’t accept someone with different beliefs to your own.

To a point, yes.

But the OP was the equivalent of saying spanking is the best and if you don’t enjoy it you’re in the wrong. And that’s not on.

Believe whatever you like but if you tell me a devil is speaking for me if I don’t believe in the Christian god, that isn’t ok either.

I have had religion pushed on me my whole life and still don’t ridicule the people doing it.

You ridicule plenty else though. Your shit stinks too.

As I said… I’m a knob but would you mock a Muslim or a Jew? I don’t think you or anyone else on here would.

Muslim, Jew, Christian, it's the same God.

Christians believe Jesus is God, but the Quran is so opposed to this belief that it condemns Jesus worshipers to Hell ([Qur’an] 5.72). For Christians, Jesus is certainly God, and for Muslims Jesus is certainly not God. How can it be said that Christians and Muslims worship the same God?

For someone able to quote Qu’ranic scripture, you don’t seem to have grasped the belief held by some Christians in the holy trinity.

God ‘the father’ is the same Abrahamic god as the God of the Torah and Allah in the Quran.

Muslims believe Issa is a prophet but not God made man. Christians worship God, not Jesus.

Christians follow Jesus because He is the risen Son of God. The truth of His resurrection compels us to trust in Him as He is God and is worthy of our love, worship, and obedience. Yet still, the beauty of the Gospel is that in trusting Jesus, we find that He pours into us more than we could have expected or hoped for.

We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one Being with the Father. So we worship Jesus because of his divinity.

I kinda like religous debates,the info IS out there,btw I am not religous but do like the idea of living the best you can be and helping your fellow man and if religion does teach to be kind and considerate it isnt the worst way to live your life is it

You’re not religious?

If not…why say this…” We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one Being with the Father. So we worship Jesus because of his divinity.”?

Sounds a tad religious. "

Oh, the joys of working out who really said what, under Fab's appalling requoting format! Surely an update is way overdue.

I suggest a change of background shade/colour for each qoted source.

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By *rightonsteveMan 5 weeks ago

Brighton - even Hove!

To this guy^^^^

I simply saw who had written what and then requoted their post back.

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By *idnight_Express69Man 5 weeks ago

Rochdale


"I know I’m a knob but there’s some proper knobs on here. You expect everyone to accept your sexuality/gender/kinks/whatever but can’t accept someone with different beliefs to your own.

To a point, yes.

But the OP was the equivalent of saying spanking is the best and if you don’t enjoy it you’re in the wrong. And that’s not on.

Believe whatever you like but if you tell me a devil is speaking for me if I don’t believe in the Christian god, that isn’t ok either.

I have had religion pushed on me my whole life and still don’t ridicule the people doing it.

You ridicule plenty else though. Your shit stinks too.

As I said… I’m a knob but would you mock a Muslim or a Jew? I don’t think you or anyone else on here would.

Muslim, Jew, Christian, it's the same God.

Christians believe Jesus is God, but the Quran is so opposed to this belief that it condemns Jesus worshipers to Hell ([Qur’an] 5.72). For Christians, Jesus is certainly God, and for Muslims Jesus is certainly not God. How can it be said that Christians and Muslims worship the same God?

For someone able to quote Qu’ranic scripture, you don’t seem to have grasped the belief held by some Christians in the holy trinity.

God ‘the father’ is the same Abrahamic god as the God of the Torah and Allah in the Quran.

Muslims believe Issa is a prophet but not God made man. Christians worship God, not Jesus.

Christians follow Jesus because He is the risen Son of God. The truth of His resurrection compels us to trust in Him as He is God and is worthy of our love, worship, and obedience. Yet still, the beauty of the Gospel is that in trusting Jesus, we find that He pours into us more than we could have expected or hoped for.

We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one Being with the Father. So we worship Jesus because of his divinity."

This ‘we believe’ stuff isn’t accurate.

Unitarians are Christians but they reject the doctrine of the trinity and do not accept that Jesus was a deity.

Your response would be better phrased ‘some Christians believe …’

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By *nlil and NinlilCouple 5 weeks ago

Nibiru


"I know I’m a knob but there’s some proper knobs on here. You expect everyone to accept your sexuality/gender/kinks/whatever but can’t accept someone with different beliefs to your own.

To a point, yes.

But the OP was the equivalent of saying spanking is the best and if you don’t enjoy it you’re in the wrong. And that’s not on.

Believe whatever you like but if you tell me a devil is speaking for me if I don’t believe in the Christian god, that isn’t ok either.

I have had religion pushed on me my whole life and still don’t ridicule the people doing it.

You ridicule plenty else though. Your shit stinks too.

As I said… I’m a knob but would you mock a Muslim or a Jew? I don’t think you or anyone else on here would.

Muslim, Jew, Christian, it's the same God.

Christians believe Jesus is God, but the Quran is so opposed to this belief that it condemns Jesus worshipers to Hell ([Qur’an] 5.72). For Christians, Jesus is certainly God, and for Muslims Jesus is certainly not God. How can it be said that Christians and Muslims worship the same God?

For someone able to quote Qu’ranic scripture, you don’t seem to have grasped the belief held by some Christians in the holy trinity.

God ‘the father’ is the same Abrahamic god as the God of the Torah and Allah in the Quran.

Muslims believe Issa is a prophet but not God made man. Christians worship God, not Jesus.

Christians follow Jesus because He is the risen Son of God. The truth of His resurrection compels us to trust in Him as He is God and is worthy of our love, worship, and obedience. Yet still, the beauty of the Gospel is that in trusting Jesus, we find that He pours into us more than we could have expected or hoped for.

We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one Being with the Father. So we worship Jesus because of his divinity.

I kinda like religous debates,the info IS out there,btw I am not religous but do like the idea of living the best you can be and helping your fellow man and if religion does teach to be kind and considerate it isnt the worst way to live your life is it

You’re not religious?

If not…why say this…” We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one Being with the Father. So we worship Jesus because of his divinity.”?

Sounds a tad religious. "

I didnt say it,I didnt write the book.I did quote it though.

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By *rightonsteveMan 5 weeks ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"I know I’m a knob but there’s some proper knobs on here. You expect everyone to accept your sexuality/gender/kinks/whatever but can’t accept someone with different beliefs to your own.

To a point, yes.

But the OP was the equivalent of saying spanking is the best and if you don’t enjoy it you’re in the wrong. And that’s not on.

Believe whatever you like but if you tell me a devil is speaking for me if I don’t believe in the Christian god, that isn’t ok either.

I have had religion pushed on me my whole life and still don’t ridicule the people doing it.

You ridicule plenty else though. Your shit stinks too.

As I said… I’m a knob but would you mock a Muslim or a Jew? I don’t think you or anyone else on here would.

Muslim, Jew, Christian, it's the same God.

Christians believe Jesus is God, but the Quran is so opposed to this belief that it condemns Jesus worshipers to Hell ([Qur’an] 5.72). For Christians, Jesus is certainly God, and for Muslims Jesus is certainly not God. How can it be said that Christians and Muslims worship the same God?

For someone able to quote Qu’ranic scripture, you don’t seem to have grasped the belief held by some Christians in the holy trinity.

God ‘the father’ is the same Abrahamic god as the God of the Torah and Allah in the Quran.

Muslims believe Issa is a prophet but not God made man. Christians worship God, not Jesus.

Christians follow Jesus because He is the risen Son of God. The truth of His resurrection compels us to trust in Him as He is God and is worthy of our love, worship, and obedience. Yet still, the beauty of the Gospel is that in trusting Jesus, we find that He pours into us more than we could have expected or hoped for.

We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one Being with the Father. So we worship Jesus because of his divinity.

I kinda like religous debates,the info IS out there,btw I am not religous but do like the idea of living the best you can be and helping your fellow man and if religion does teach to be kind and considerate it isnt the worst way to live your life is it

You’re not religious?

If not…why say this…” We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one Being with the Father. So we worship Jesus because of his divinity.”?

Sounds a tad religious.

I didnt say it,I didnt write the book.I did quote it though."

Ah…that explains it!

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By *ools and the brainCouple 5 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

All I said was that piece of halibut was good enough for Jehovah!

" Blasphemy,stone him"

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By *nlil and NinlilCouple 5 weeks ago

Nibiru


"I know I’m a knob but there’s some proper knobs on here. You expect everyone to accept your sexuality/gender/kinks/whatever but can’t accept someone with different beliefs to your own.

To a point, yes.

But the OP was the equivalent of saying spanking is the best and if you don’t enjoy it you’re in the wrong. And that’s not on.

Believe whatever you like but if you tell me a devil is speaking for me if I don’t believe in the Christian god, that isn’t ok either.

I have had religion pushed on me my whole life and still don’t ridicule the people doing it.

You ridicule plenty else though. Your shit stinks too.

As I said… I’m a knob but would you mock a Muslim or a Jew? I don’t think you or anyone else on here would.

Muslim, Jew, Christian, it's the same God.

Christians believe Jesus is God, but the Quran is so opposed to this belief that it condemns Jesus worshipers to Hell ([Qur’an] 5.72). For Christians, Jesus is certainly God, and for Muslims Jesus is certainly not God. How can it be said that Christians and Muslims worship the same God?

For someone able to quote Qu’ranic scripture, you don’t seem to have grasped the belief held by some Christians in the holy trinity.

God ‘the father’ is the same Abrahamic god as the God of the Torah and Allah in the Quran.

Muslims believe Issa is a prophet but not God made man. Christians worship God, not Jesus.

Christians follow Jesus because He is the risen Son of God. The truth of His resurrection compels us to trust in Him as He is God and is worthy of our love, worship, and obedience. Yet still, the beauty of the Gospel is that in trusting Jesus, we find that He pours into us more than we could have expected or hoped for.

We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one Being with the Father. So we worship Jesus because of his divinity.

This ‘we believe’ stuff isn’t accurate.

Unitarians are Christians but they reject the doctrine of the trinity and do not accept that Jesus was a deity.

Your response would be better phrased ‘some Christians believe …’ "

Mormonism - Latter-day Saints,Jehovah's Witnesses,Christian Scientists ,Traditional Armstrongism,Christadelphians,Oneness Pentecostals,Unification adherents,Unity School of Christianity,Scientology,do not believe in the trinity so "some Christians believe" better?

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By *nlil and NinlilCouple 5 weeks ago

Nibiru


"I know I’m a knob but there’s some proper knobs on here. You expect everyone to accept your sexuality/gender/kinks/whatever but can’t accept someone with different beliefs to your own.

To a point, yes.

But the OP was the equivalent of saying spanking is the best and if you don’t enjoy it you’re in the wrong. And that’s not on.

Believe whatever you like but if you tell me a devil is speaking for me if I don’t believe in the Christian god, that isn’t ok either.

I have had religion pushed on me my whole life and still don’t ridicule the people doing it.

You ridicule plenty else though. Your shit stinks too.

As I said… I’m a knob but would you mock a Muslim or a Jew? I don’t think you or anyone else on here would.

Muslim, Jew, Christian, it's the same God.

Christians believe Jesus is God, but the Quran is so opposed to this belief that it condemns Jesus worshipers to Hell ([Qur’an] 5.72). For Christians, Jesus is certainly God, and for Muslims Jesus is certainly not God. How can it be said that Christians and Muslims worship the same God?

For someone able to quote Qu’ranic scripture, you don’t seem to have grasped the belief held by some Christians in the holy trinity.

God ‘the father’ is the same Abrahamic god as the God of the Torah and Allah in the Quran.

Muslims believe Issa is a prophet but not God made man. Christians worship God, not Jesus.

Christians follow Jesus because He is the risen Son of God. The truth of His resurrection compels us to trust in Him as He is God and is worthy of our love, worship, and obedience. Yet still, the beauty of the Gospel is that in trusting Jesus, we find that He pours into us more than we could have expected or hoped for.

We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one Being with the Father. So we worship Jesus because of his divinity.

I kinda like religous debates,the info IS out there,btw I am not religous but do like the idea of living the best you can be and helping your fellow man and if religion does teach to be kind and considerate it isnt the worst way to live your life is it

You’re not religious?

If not…why say this…” We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one Being with the Father. So we worship Jesus because of his divinity.”?

Sounds a tad religious.

I didnt say it,I didnt write the book.I did quote it though.

Ah…that explains it! "

it does? Glad I could help peace and love to all

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By *rightonsteveMan 5 weeks ago

Brighton - even Hove!

^^^^ they can’t all be right!^^^^^

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By *nlil and NinlilCouple 5 weeks ago

Nibiru


"^^^^ they can’t all be right!^^^^^"

maybe none are right,maybe all are right but written and interpreted different,who knows? if there is a devine being waiting to judge us when we come to the end,many of us are gonna be fucked lol

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By *ot really famousMan 5 weeks ago

monaghan


"^^^^ they can’t all be right!^^^^^

maybe none are right,maybe all are right but written and interpreted different,who knows? if there is a devine being waiting to judge us when we come to the end,many of us are gonna be fucked lol "

...im gonna plead ignorance...

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By *irthandgirthMan 5 weeks ago

Camberley occasionally doncaster

I became a devout atheist at about the age of 5, when I was told that THIS book with stories about THIS God was real, but my books about Greek Gods was JUST A STORY (even though they were way cooler)

I have never doubted anyone's faith, but I have an interest in how YHWH went from a minor mesopotamian pantheonic deity to its current iteration.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple 5 weeks ago

North West


"I know I’m a knob but there’s some proper knobs on here. You expect everyone to accept your sexuality/gender/kinks/whatever but can’t accept someone with different beliefs to your own.

To a point, yes.

But the OP was the equivalent of saying spanking is the best and if you don’t enjoy it you’re in the wrong. And that’s not on.

Believe whatever you like but if you tell me a devil is speaking for me if I don’t believe in the Christian god, that isn’t ok either.

I have had religion pushed on me my whole life and still don’t ridicule the people doing it.

You ridicule plenty else though. Your shit stinks too.

As I said… I’m a knob but would you mock a Muslim or a Jew? I don’t think you or anyone else on here would.

Muslim, Jew, Christian, it's the same God.

Christians believe Jesus is God, but the Quran is so opposed to this belief that it condemns Jesus worshipers to Hell ([Qur’an] 5.72). For Christians, Jesus is certainly God, and for Muslims Jesus is certainly not God. How can it be said that Christians and Muslims worship the same God?

For someone able to quote Qu’ranic scripture, you don’t seem to have grasped the belief held by some Christians in the holy trinity.

God ‘the father’ is the same Abrahamic god as the God of the Torah and Allah in the Quran.

Muslims believe Issa is a prophet but not God made man. Christians worship God, not Jesus.

Christians follow Jesus because He is the risen Son of God. The truth of His resurrection compels us to trust in Him as He is God and is worthy of our love, worship, and obedience. Yet still, the beauty of the Gospel is that in trusting Jesus, we find that He pours into us more than we could have expected or hoped for.

We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one Being with the Father. So we worship Jesus because of his divinity.

I kinda like religous debates,the info IS out there,btw I am not religous but do like the idea of living the best you can be and helping your fellow man and if religion does teach to be kind and considerate it isnt the worst way to live your life is it

You’re not religious?

If not…why say this…” We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one Being with the Father. So we worship Jesus because of his divinity.”?

Sounds a tad religious.

I didnt say it,I didnt write the book.I did quote it though."

What you've quoted/copied is part of the Nicene Creed. Its origins are with the First Council of Nicea in 325AD and it is considered a standard profession of faith in the Christian faith for most branches.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicene_Creed

However, whoever above pointed out that Unitarians don't subscribe to it are correct. Unitarians believe that the Creed is a corruption of original doctrine and therefore is null and void. Unitarianism is supposed to be aligned with primitive Christian practice.

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By *nlil and NinlilCouple 5 weeks ago

Nibiru


"I became a devout atheist at about the age of 5, when I was told that THIS book with stories about THIS God was real, but my books about Greek Gods was JUST A STORY (even though they were way cooler)

I have never doubted anyone's faith, but I have an interest in how YHWH went from a minor mesopotamian pantheonic deity to its current iteration."

see I reckon that is what is cool about relion,it is a good debate topic,was marduk the original idea for god and enlil and enki the devil and archangel michael? either way they are good stories

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By *irthandgirthMan 5 weeks ago

Camberley occasionally doncaster


"I became a devout atheist at about the age of 5, when I was told that THIS book with stories about THIS God was real, but my books about Greek Gods was JUST A STORY (even though they were way cooler)

I have never doubted anyone's faith, but I have an interest in how YHWH went from a minor mesopotamian pantheonic deity to its current iteration.

see I reckon that is what is cool about relion,it is a good debate topic,was marduk the original idea for god and enlil and enki the devil and archangel michael? either way they are good stories"

It's interesting how they can trace the path, how some gods fell out of favour and their attributes attached to another. How the same God is seen in different areas, how YHWH had a father and wife.. he became the father, the wife disappeared..

Francesca Stavrakopoulou is an amazing source on YouTube. Great historian.

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By *nlil and NinlilCouple 5 weeks ago

Nibiru

what is fked up is people are persecuted for their beliefs,that is not on in any day and age....so what do you believe happens after we shuffle off this mortal coil?heaven or hell,reincarnation? or you just go into the aether for the rest of eternity?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple 5 weeks ago

North West


"what is fked up is people are persecuted for their beliefs,that is not on in any day and age....so what do you believe happens after we shuffle off this mortal coil?heaven or hell,reincarnation? or you just go into the aether for the rest of eternity?"

Worm food. Matter recycled.

I feel like being at least partly recycled into a tree, I think.

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By *cLovin2Man 5 weeks ago

Reading


"what is fked up is people are persecuted for their beliefs,that is not on in any day and age....so what do you believe happens after we shuffle off this mortal coil?heaven or hell,reincarnation? or you just go into the aether for the rest of eternity?"

Man has been persecuting fellow man over religion and usually greed since time began. Religion has historically been used to justify such persecution.

The more you learn about other religions, the more you see the same cycle being used by men in power to justify their own insane beliefs.

In answer to your question, we're all going to rot in the ground, no matter which god you pray to. Unless of course you choose to be cremated.

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By *ase4122Man 5 weeks ago

Lancashire


"what is fked up is people are persecuted for their beliefs,that is not on in any day and age....so what do you believe happens after we shuffle off this mortal coil?heaven or hell,reincarnation? or you just go into the aether for the rest of eternity?

Man has been persecuting fellow man over religion and usually greed since time began. Religion has historically been used to justify such persecution.

The more you learn about other religions, the more you see the same cycle being used by men in power to justify their own insane beliefs.

In answer to your question, we're all going to rot in the ground, no matter which god you pray to. Unless of course you choose to be cremated."

Or donate your body to medical science!

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By *inky_couple2020Couple 5 weeks ago

North West


"what is fked up is people are persecuted for their beliefs,that is not on in any day and age....so what do you believe happens after we shuffle off this mortal coil?heaven or hell,reincarnation? or you just go into the aether for the rest of eternity?

Man has been persecuting fellow man over religion and usually greed since time began. Religion has historically been used to justify such persecution.

The more you learn about other religions, the more you see the same cycle being used by men in power to justify their own insane beliefs.

In answer to your question, we're all going to rot in the ground, no matter which god you pray to. Unless of course you choose to be cremated.

Or donate your body to medical science! "

You still get buried or cremated or whatever after they finish the medical investigations etc. You might just be short of a few bits and bobs, depending on what medical science used your body for.

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By *elvet RopeMan 5 weeks ago

by the big field

Dougal: “God Ted, I’ve heard about those cults. Everyone dressing in black and saying our Lord’s going to come back and judge us all.”

Ted: “No… no Dougal, that’s us. That’s Catholicism you’re talking about there.”

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By *olinOfBathMan 5 weeks ago

Corsham

You know what we all have in common?

We weren't forced to read this thread...

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By *lue RascalMan 5 weeks ago

Cheshire Liverpool Manchester

I would love him to be although I’m not much of a believer. An afterlife where I can see all my friends and family again will do me and if that’s down to God then I’ll apologise when I meet him for ever doubting him.

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