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By (user no longer on site) OP 28 weeks ago
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Should teachers be allowed on this site anonymously? Think the adult work site was probably too much, but what about them being on this site?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c29dz2znp38o |
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"Should teachers be allowed on this site anonymously? Think the adult work site was probably too much, but what about them being on this site?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c29dz2znp38o"
What does it have to do with you? Who comes on the site |
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By (user no longer on site) 28 weeks ago
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"Why are they different to anyone else?"
they should be, problem is they are in the public eye and seen as role models same as nurses doctors ect thwy can very rarely let their hair down without worrying whos about or watching
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Yes.
And I would go so far as to say it being used as grounds to terminate employment ought to be grounds for an unfair dismissal case.
I'd say the same for sex work. As long as they are doing their job, it's no one's business. They aren't committing a crime.
It's just propagating stigma. Was she a good teacher seems to be the important aspect of teaching to me, not who the teacher has sex with or does in their free time. |
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By *hoirCouple 28 weeks ago
Clacton/Bury St. Edmunds |
"Should teachers be allowed on this site anonymously? Think the adult work site was probably too much, but what about them being on this site?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c29dz2znp38o"
Yes. A teaching contract does not guarantee exclusivity so they can do any work they like so long as it doesn't impact the children.
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Sounds like maybe she had bad representation and changed her story. I wonder if was a Muslim complaint , there were similar issues in Birmingham in the past with schools controlled by conservative Muslims
The council ban means nothing she can teach for anyone except Birmingham council |
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By (user no longer on site) 28 weeks ago
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How many actually read the article? She wasn’t a swinger but someone turning tricks for money. Thats vastly different to the intentions of this site.
Quite rightly she has been banned from teaching. She’s in a position of authority and responsibility and if she couldn’t see that her doing that could cause issues, then you have to ask if she was to daft to actually be a teacher. |
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"How many actually read the article? She wasn’t a swinger but someone turning tricks for money. Thats vastly different to the intentions of this site.
Quite rightly she has been banned from teaching. She’s in a position of authority and responsibility and if she couldn’t see that her doing that could cause issues, then you have to ask if she was to daft to actually be a teacher. "
The question asked was
'Should teachers be allowed on this site anonymously?'
I genuinely don't see the connection between that and the article though |
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By *agatoXXXMan 28 weeks ago
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"Should teachers be allowed on this site anonymously? Think the adult work site was probably too much, but what about them being on this site?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c29dz2znp38o"
Where do you draw the line on excluding professions? |
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By (user no longer on site) 28 weeks ago
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"Oh and I did read the article"
I don’t see the connection either and many seem to answering the question as though she’s been banned because of being on a site like this.
Quite simply, we have no right to question a teachers sex life as long as it’s legal and consenting.
Charging for it is a whole different ball game though. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP 28 weeks ago
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The Teaching Regulatory Authority have banned her from teaching anywhere for five years, and after five years there's no guarantee of an overturn.
Yes the adult work website was got her the sack, but that website there's webcams like on here, she didn't make any money.
The other part that the TRA upheld was against her being on this site specifically.
The panel noted that Ms Barguss admitted this allegation. Notwithstanding, the panel
considered the evidence before it and came to a determination based on the balance of
probabilities.
The panel considered the screenshots of a profile under the name of “[REDACTED]”,
which was contained within the letter sent to the School. The author of the letter stated
that the profile was being run by Ms Barguss, and that this was clear due to links with her
Facebook posts.
The panel noted that there were numerous inappropriate images/videos within the
‘movies’ and ‘gallery’ sections of the profile, many of which had graphic titles. The still
images of the movies appeared to show Ms Barguss engaging in sexual intercourse. The
images within the gallery section of the profile showed Ms Barguss’ body from a range of
angles, whilst she was wearing minimal clothing.
The panel considered the statement of Ms Barguss. Ms Barguss stated that Covid and
lockdown had occurred during her time at the School, which she stated had negatively
impacted upon her [REDACTED] and which had taken a toll on her and [REDACTED]
relationship. Ms Barguss explained that during this period, she and [REDACTED] had
made a profile on the website ‘[REDACTED]’, in order to meet ‘like-minded’ individuals.
Ms Barguss explained that she uploaded photos and videos to this profile, which she
stated was necessary to enable them to speak to other members of the site. Ms Barguss
explained that she thought this would be a safe and discreet website which would allow
her and [REDACTED] to keep their private and work lives separate.
Ms Barguss submitted that she and [REDACTED] thought about using a normal dating
site but that would have meant that they had to use face pictures, and they wanted to
keep this side of their life very private, and ‘[REDACTED]’ allowed them to keep their
identity hidden. Ms Barguss stated that she hid her tattoos in the pictures and that she
had them taken in a way that, she perceived, prevented her identity being exposed. The
panel did not consider this was the case and noted that some of the photographs and still
images from the videos clearly showed Ms Barguss’ face.
The panel therefore found allegation 1 proven and determined that Ms Barguss had
uploaded the images and videos and that the images and videos were inappropriate. |
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"Oh and I did read the article
I don’t see the connection either and many seem to answering the question as though she’s been banned because of being on a site like this.
Quite simply, we have no right to question a teachers sex life as long as it’s legal and consenting.
Charging for it is a whole different ball game though. "
Yep and as charging is against site rules I don't see a problem.
However there will always be that one person who doesn't want their children being taught by someone who does exactly what they do in their spare time and can't wait to submit their horror, in writing to the governors.
I'd also strongly advise against face pictures and explicit nudity for teachers |
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By *rad670Man 28 weeks ago
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It shouldn't matter what your profession is, workplaces are supposed to be all inclusive towards their eployees that they should not be allowed to use being on a site like this as grounds to sack someone when they can't do it for any other discriminatory reason.After all it's a site for mature minded, consenting, discrete and non judgemental people isn't it? (I do sometimes wonder) but nothing illegal going on and nothing to detriment of children in the case of the teacher. |
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"How many actually read the article? She wasn’t a swinger but someone turning tricks for money. Thats vastly different to the intentions of this site.
Quite rightly she has been banned from teaching. She’s in a position of authority and responsibility and if she couldn’t see that her doing that could cause issues, then you have to ask if she was to daft to actually be a teacher. "
You don't have to ask. Someone's ability to teach is quantified by very specific performance metrics and their training qualification.
I don't see an issue, other than people's prejudiced attitudes towards sex work. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP 28 weeks ago
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The only thing she truly messed up on was admitting it, but the teaching standards hold people to a higher account than more normal jobs.
The teaching standards say about bringing the profession into dispute, and articles like this put us off meeting or going clubs! |
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By (user no longer on site) 28 weeks ago
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"The only thing she truly messed up on was admitting it, but the teaching standards hold people to a higher account than more normal jobs.
The teaching standards say about bringing the profession into dispute, and articles like this put us off meeting or going clubs!"
I’m sorry, but I just don’t see the correlation between what happened to this lady and your own position. In my view they’re vastly different. |
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"And 'bringing the profession into disrepute' is very open ended and v vague  "
There's the problem.
Let's establish first that sex work and swinging are not the same.
However a teacher's position could be made untenable if explicit pictures and videos were seen by pupils or 'disgusted of Tunbridge Wells' type parents . Also school governors and local education authorities can be very judgemental |
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What always gets me about those "Teacher sacked after concerned citizen finds her on Generic Sex Work Website™" or whatever articles of cloying sanctimony and pearl-clutching is that nobody ever seems to have anything to say about the person who was on there in the first place to have found her. |
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"The only thing she truly messed up on was admitting it, but the teaching standards hold people to a higher account than more normal jobs.
The teaching standards say about bringing the profession into dispute, and articles like this put us off meeting or going clubs!
I’m sorry, but I just don’t see the correlation between what happened to this lady and your own position. In my view they’re vastly different. "
I don't think they're the same either, but I can very much see Mrs Nosy Noisy Hypocrite (or mister, whatever) finding out that Junior's teacher enjoys consensual sex with the lights on, and throwing a loud embarrassing tantrum about it. |
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"The only thing she truly messed up on was admitting it, but the teaching standards hold people to a higher account than more normal jobs.
The teaching standards say about bringing the profession into dispute, and articles like this put us off meeting or going clubs!
I’m sorry, but I just don’t see the correlation between what happened to this lady and your own position. In my view they’re vastly different.
I don't think they're the same either, but I can very much see Mrs Nosy Noisy Hypocrite (or mister, whatever) finding out that Junior's teacher enjoys consensual sex with the lights on, and throwing a loud embarrassing tantrum about it."
Yep.
We're not many years away from people not wanting gay men to teach their children |
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"The only thing she truly messed up on was admitting it, but the teaching standards hold people to a higher account than more normal jobs.
The teaching standards say about bringing the profession into dispute, and articles like this put us off meeting or going clubs!"
There's a lot of professions with similar levels of accountability. And I agree with considering the probity of a profession.
But who is being unethical: the teacher who is on a swinger site. Or the people that discriminate against them and expect them to conform to their views, or are willing to destroy their careers?
I'd rather they dealt with the bullying and body shaming in schools and had tribunals for the heads and teachers, who fail to protect children from abuse, whilst in their care. Let's get them banned from teaching and raise some standards in school, so kids can be safe whilst they learn. I couldn't care less if my kids teacher is getting gangbanged in a club 5 nights a week, if she is good at her job. Good on her, enjoy yourself that's a tough job you do - thank you. |
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"Should teachers be allowed on this site anonymously? Think the adult work site was probably too much, but what about them being on this site?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c29dz2znp38o"
Being here is one thing. But that teacher was working as an esc ort , and that’s a bit too much for a teacher. |
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"The only thing she truly messed up on was admitting it, but the teaching standards hold people to a higher account than more normal jobs.
The teaching standards say about bringing the profession into dispute, and articles like this put us off meeting or going clubs!
There's a lot of professions with similar levels of accountability. And I agree with considering the probity of a profession.
But who is being unethical: the teacher who is on a swinger site. Or the people that discriminate against them and expect them to conform to their views, or are willing to destroy their careers?
I'd rather they dealt with the bullying and body shaming in schools and had tribunals for the heads and teachers, who fail to protect children from abuse, whilst in their care. Let's get them banned from teaching and raise some standards in school, so kids can be safe whilst they learn. I couldn't care less if my kids teacher is getting gangbanged in a club 5 nights a week, if she is good at her job. Good on her, enjoy yourself that's a tough job you do - thank you."
Agree wholeheartedly.
The only way I can imagine the gangbanging damaging the child is if someone tells them about it.
If the teacher is talking about it, ok, that's not acceptable.
If the parents are... then they're the ones creating the fucking problem. |
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By *ripfillMan 28 weeks ago
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"Yes, they should be allowed to.
I can understand why they'd be wary and would want to be careful. Even if I wish society were different about consensual sex between adults, it is not."
Agree … openess and communication |
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Agree wholeheartedly.
The only way I can imagine the gangbanging damaging the child is if someone tells them about it.
If the teacher is talking about it, ok, that's not acceptable.
If the parents are... then they're the ones creating the fucking problem. "
Exactly.
And what message is this giving to kids. People in positions of authority. Supposed arbiters of ethics and justice: engaging in slut-shaming.
Brilliant standards to be setting in schools, I can't see how that will do any harm. |
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Agree wholeheartedly.
The only way I can imagine the gangbanging damaging the child is if someone tells them about it.
If the teacher is talking about it, ok, that's not acceptable.
If the parents are... then they're the ones creating the fucking problem.
Exactly.
And what message is this giving to kids. People in positions of authority. Supposed arbiters of ethics and justice: engaging in slut-shaming.
Brilliant standards to be setting in schools, I can't see how that will do any harm."
"If I scream and sling mud, I'll get what I want and I can fuck people up"
That's a lesson we want young people to know |
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The phrasing is .... b) “Conduct that may bring the profession into disrepute” is conduct that could potentially damage the public's perception of a teacher, therefore bringing the teaching profession into disrepute.
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"They can do what the fuck they want out of work hours."
Of course they can. It must just NOT be attached to the school in any way or the profession.
The only reason she got caught is due to the 'concerns' of busy bodies.
I mean moralising twats.... |
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Agree wholeheartedly.
The only way I can imagine the gangbanging damaging the child is if someone tells them about it.
If the teacher is talking about it, ok, that's not acceptable.
If the parents are... then they're the ones creating the fucking problem.
Exactly.
And what message is this giving to kids. People in positions of authority. Supposed arbiters of ethics and justice: engaging in slut-shaming.
Brilliant standards to be setting in schools, I can't see how that will do any harm.
"If I scream and sling mud, I'll get what I want and I can fuck people up"
That's a lesson we want young people to know "
I got a bit outraged and burnt my pancake 
Very true though kids learn by example, do as I say not as I do doesn't wash anymore not should it. |
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