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By (user no longer on site) OP 33 weeks ago
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So I've been fairly rigid in my music tastes. I've always enjoyed various genres of rock from Indie, to Blues, to Alternative and Metal.
However, I've not really given Hip Hop as rap much of a chance outside of Eminem (Sorry Pickle  ), however, I recently really got into Run The Jewels and absolutely love some of the beats and lyrics and want to give more artists a go. Any recommendations?  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP 33 weeks ago
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"Such a broad spectrum.
Start by going back to it’s roots and work your way up to see how it’s evolved over the decades.
Way too many to mention"
That's what intimidates me! There's so much that I don't know where to go next. Off I go to listen to Rapper's Delight I guess  |
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By (user no longer on site) 33 weeks ago
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The black album and the blueprint by jay Z
Nas- illmatic
Dave - PsychoDrama
J Hus- Big Conspiracy
All of Biggie’s work
Good kid maad city by Kendrick
J Cole - Forest Hill’s Drive and KOD
Kano- Hoodies all summer and made in the Manor
Skepta- Konnichiwa
Anything by Snoop Dogg
I think these are albums that I think are best for people getting into different types of rap. Pac is just more violent and my other favourite artists are too so I don’t think they’re for everyone. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP 33 weeks ago
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"The black album and the blueprint by jay Z
Nas- illmatic
Dave - PsychoDrama
J Hus- Big Conspiracy
All of Biggie’s work
Good kid maad city by Kendrick
J Cole - Forest Hill’s Drive and KOD
Kano- Hoodies all summer and made in the Manor
Skepta- Konnichiwa
Anything by Snoop Dogg
I think these are albums that I think are best for people getting into different types of rap. Pac is just more violent and my other favourite artists are too so I don’t think they’re for everyone. "
Knew I could count on you! I'll give these a listen  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP 33 weeks ago
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"I agree with mr pickle outside a few songs I like Eminem is turd
Personal favourites
Mobb deep
Ice cube
Nwa
Comptons most wanted
50 cent
Early game "
Thank you! You must be fan of West side hip hop. Yeah, I saw a documentary |
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Ol' Dirty Bastard - Got Your Money
2-Pac - All About You
Digital Underground - The Humpty Dance + Same Song ft. 2 Pac
Rob Base + DJ EZ Rock - It Takes Two
Wu-Tang Clan - C.R.E.A.M
Rakim and Eric B - Paid in Full
The Fresh Prince and Jazzy Jeff - Summertime
2LiveCrew - Me So Horny
Eminem - Infinite (album)... Often overlooked and worth a listen.
These are pretty much always in my playlists |
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Pretty much any Ye/Kanye West album is great and he tries out different styles on various albums so you might find one fits you better than others.
Beastie Boys are fun and utilise a lot of classic rock samples so make an easy transition from a fan of that genre.
Later Kendrick Lamar is kind of insufferable jazz infused and disjointed. Seems like trying to hard to be artsy. His earlier stuff is great, especially Section.80 and good kid, m.A.A.d city.
I find lots of the 90’s stuff that people would call golden era is really dated and corny now, Tupac, Biggie, NWA etc. There are a few good tunes but they’re kinda cheesy.
Some Memphis rap is pretty cool and a bit more fun, Three 6 Mafia, Bubba Sparxx etc. If you find a playlist of that stuff there will be a few jams.
Death Grips are great if you like heavier music? They’re kind of the NIN/Skinny Puppy of rap. Great diy punk aesthetic.
Kool AD, Childish Gambino, Earl Sweatshirt and Tyler the Creator are artists that’re relatively easy to get into and more postmodern and kinda hipster-nerd rappers.
There’s so much out there but it’s a genre full of so much vapid samey shiy that you have to trawl for gems. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP 33 weeks ago
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"I was going to message you with a playlist Joe, but I can see you have a *lot* of recommendations here to get through. I’ll leave you in peace. "
I'd still appreciate the suggestions. I might get round to them quicker if the rest are shit
Kidding, I love you all |
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Kano - Trouble
Mac Miller - 2009
Nas - Nas Is Like
The Diplomats - Dipset Anthem
Statik Selektah - Keep It Moving Feat Nas and Joey Bada$$
The Diplomats - I Really Mean It
Nas -Define My Name
J Hus - Triumph
If you want UK then I like J Hus, Mo Stack, Mist, Ardee, Aitch and Headie One |
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"Kano - Trouble
Mac Miller - 2009
Nas - Nas Is Like
The Diplomats - Dipset Anthem
Statik Selektah - Keep It Moving Feat Nas and Joey Bada$$
The Diplomats - I Really Mean It
Nas -Define My Name
J Hus - Triumph
If you want UK then I like J Hus, Mo Stack, Mist, Ardee, Aitch and Headie One"
I don't know about any of this but does Aitch say 'Aitch' or 'haitch' for the h sound I wonder? I couldn't respect him if he calls himself the former but uses the latter! |
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"Kano - Trouble
Mac Miller - 2009
Nas - Nas Is Like
The Diplomats - Dipset Anthem
Statik Selektah - Keep It Moving Feat Nas and Joey Bada$$
The Diplomats - I Really Mean It
Nas -Define My Name
J Hus - Triumph
If you want UK then I like J Hus, Mo Stack, Mist, Ardee, Aitch and Headie One
I don't know about any of this but does Aitch say 'Aitch' or 'haitch' for the h sound I wonder? I couldn't respect him if he calls himself the former but uses the latter!"
never thought of it like that but he is from Manneh and they talk funny |
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"Kano - Trouble
Mac Miller - 2009
Nas - Nas Is Like
The Diplomats - Dipset Anthem
Statik Selektah - Keep It Moving Feat Nas and Joey Bada$$
The Diplomats - I Really Mean It
Nas -Define My Name
J Hus - Triumph
If you want UK then I like J Hus, Mo Stack, Mist, Ardee, Aitch and Headie One
I don't know about any of this but does Aitch say 'Aitch' or 'haitch' for the h sound I wonder? I couldn't respect him if he calls himself the former but uses the latter!never thought of it like that but he is from Manneh and they talk funny "
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"Kano - Trouble
Mac Miller - 2009
Nas - Nas Is Like
The Diplomats - Dipset Anthem
Statik Selektah - Keep It Moving Feat Nas and Joey Bada$$
The Diplomats - I Really Mean It
Nas -Define My Name
J Hus - Triumph
If you want UK then I like J Hus, Mo Stack, Mist, Ardee, Aitch and Headie One"
How the fuck are man talking about UK stuff with no mention of Giggs and Ghetts  |
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By (user no longer on site) 33 weeks ago
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"Kano - Trouble
Mac Miller - 2009
Nas - Nas Is Like
The Diplomats - Dipset Anthem
Statik Selektah - Keep It Moving Feat Nas and Joey Bada$$
The Diplomats - I Really Mean It
Nas -Define My Name
J Hus - Triumph
If you want UK then I like J Hus, Mo Stack, Mist, Ardee, Aitch and Headie One
How the fuck are man talking about UK stuff with no mention of Giggs and Ghetts "
Ghetts yes. Giggs is one of the violent rappers I meant because I only listen to his old stuff. |
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"Kano - Trouble
Mac Miller - 2009
Nas - Nas Is Like
The Diplomats - Dipset Anthem
Statik Selektah - Keep It Moving Feat Nas and Joey Bada$$
The Diplomats - I Really Mean It
Nas -Define My Name
J Hus - Triumph
If you want UK then I like J Hus, Mo Stack, Mist, Ardee, Aitch and Headie One
How the fuck are man talking about UK stuff with no mention of Giggs and Ghetts
Ghetts yes. Giggs is one of the violent rappers I meant because I only listen to his old stuff. "
Giggs is still a rapper though.
If we are talking UK hip hop, Giggs is one of the GOATS |
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I may never live this down, but here goes...
But if you're new, Romesh Ranganathan's R2 show is really good for an intro - some big stuff, but also introduces some lesser known artists.
Right, now where did I leave my pipe and slippers? |
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By (user no longer on site) 33 weeks ago
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"Kano - Trouble
Mac Miller - 2009
Nas - Nas Is Like
The Diplomats - Dipset Anthem
Statik Selektah - Keep It Moving Feat Nas and Joey Bada$$
The Diplomats - I Really Mean It
Nas -Define My Name
J Hus - Triumph
If you want UK then I like J Hus, Mo Stack, Mist, Ardee, Aitch and Headie One
How the fuck are man talking about UK stuff with no mention of Giggs and Ghetts
Ghetts yes. Giggs is one of the violent rappers I meant because I only listen to his old stuff.
Giggs is still a rapper though.
If we are talking UK hip hop, Giggs is one of the GOATS"
He fell off let’s be real. He’s being saved by good beats. The lyrics are not slapping anymore. Not as consistent as say… Nines. Now that’s a GOAT. |
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"I may never live this down, but here goes...
But if you're new, Romesh Ranganathan's R2 show is really good for an intro - some big stuff, but also introduces some lesser known artists.
Right, now where did I leave my pipe and slippers?"
I'm picking up what you are putting down |
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"I may never live this down, but here goes...
But if you're new, Romesh Ranganathan's R2 show is really good for an intro - some big stuff, but also introduces some lesser known artists.
Right, now where did I leave my pipe and slippers?
I'm picking up what you are putting down"
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"Kano - Trouble
Mac Miller - 2009
Nas - Nas Is Like
The Diplomats - Dipset Anthem
Statik Selektah - Keep It Moving Feat Nas and Joey Bada$$
The Diplomats - I Really Mean It
Nas -Define My Name
J Hus - Triumph
If you want UK then I like J Hus, Mo Stack, Mist, Ardee, Aitch and Headie One
How the fuck are man talking about UK stuff with no mention of Giggs and Ghetts
Ghetts yes. Giggs is one of the violent rappers I meant because I only listen to his old stuff.
Giggs is still a rapper though.
If we are talking UK hip hop, Giggs is one of the GOATS
He fell off let’s be real. He’s being saved by good beats. The lyrics are not slapping anymore. Not as consistent as say… Nines. Now that’s a GOAT. "
Lets see what Nines be putting out two decades deep |
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By (user no longer on site) 33 weeks ago
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"Kano - Trouble
Mac Miller - 2009
Nas - Nas Is Like
The Diplomats - Dipset Anthem
Statik Selektah - Keep It Moving Feat Nas and Joey Bada$$
The Diplomats - I Really Mean It
Nas -Define My Name
J Hus - Triumph
If you want UK then I like J Hus, Mo Stack, Mist, Ardee, Aitch and Headie One
How the fuck are man talking about UK stuff with no mention of Giggs and Ghetts
Ghetts yes. Giggs is one of the violent rappers I meant because I only listen to his old stuff.
Giggs is still a rapper though.
If we are talking UK hip hop, Giggs is one of the GOATS
He fell off let’s be real. He’s being saved by good beats. The lyrics are not slapping anymore. Not as consistent as say… Nines. Now that’s a GOAT.
Lets see what Nines be putting out two decades deep"
Hopefully better than Giggs.
Skepta is managing ok |
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"Kano - Trouble
Mac Miller - 2009
Nas - Nas Is Like
The Diplomats - Dipset Anthem
Statik Selektah - Keep It Moving Feat Nas and Joey Bada$$
The Diplomats - I Really Mean It
Nas -Define My Name
J Hus - Triumph
If you want UK then I like J Hus, Mo Stack, Mist, Ardee, Aitch and Headie One
How the fuck are man talking about UK stuff with no mention of Giggs and Ghetts
Ghetts yes. Giggs is one of the violent rappers I meant because I only listen to his old stuff.
Giggs is still a rapper though.
If we are talking UK hip hop, Giggs is one of the GOATS
He fell off let’s be real. He’s being saved by good beats. The lyrics are not slapping anymore. Not as consistent as say… Nines. Now that’s a GOAT.
Lets see what Nines be putting out two decades deep
Hopefully better than Giggs.
Skepta is managing ok "
I doubt Nines will last make it that long but stranger things have happened
Skeppy is a different animal as well you know
BBK are one of the most important things in British music
Lets not even get into his solo projects
Beastin |
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"So I've been fairly rigid in my music tastes. I've always enjoyed various genres of rock from Indie, to Blues, to Alternative and Metal.
However, I've not really given Hip Hop as rap much of a chance outside of Eminem (Sorry Pickle ), however, I recently really got into Run The Jewels and absolutely love some of the beats and lyrics and want to give more artists a go. Any recommendations? "
Depends on the style you like.
You might like Tech n9ne, Yelawolf, Mac Miller [rip] or Drake, Kendrick, J.cole or Paul Wall, Slim Thug, Mexican OT, Outcast or Redman, Mobb Deep, Nas different eras and styles |
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"Do people count uk rap? It’s hideous. So sad the state of British music when this is the flagship genre, considering the run we had from the 60’s until 00’s"
Ren is one of the uk's best inderpendent artist imo  |
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By (user no longer on site) 33 weeks ago
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"I should mention that the mainstream artists intimidate me a bit by going into their back catalogues  "
Eminem is awesome. I also like prof green two.
Always liked de la soul who I listen to a lot.
Mainstream is where I noticed these acts, when pop music was okay.
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2pac, Dr Dre, Snoop, Cube, 50 cent, Biggie, Nas, Outkast, Run Dmc, DMX, are some of my favourites.
Was at Wembley when Eminem was there, absolutely incredible and the place got insane when Dr Dre waled out  |
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Ahandsome Boy Modelling School- Hey Hows Your Girl.a project by two of Hip Hop's finest producers with guest rappers. A work of art
Blackalicious - any album is brilliant
Public Enemy - because they are the greatest
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Don’t listen to these twats They’ll always give you the same surface-level Hip-Hop artists that’s on EVERYONE’S lists. Listen to me….
You like Indie?
Kenna - Mixed Indie Rock with Hip-Hop/R’nB….
https://youtu.be/LbvVd23GzOU?si=6eBrnM8RJyIogffD
You like RunTheJewels?
Aesop Rock…
https://youtu.be/Pl7HEtCWf6I?si=fzta25qMszJKQfcq
OLD SKOOL PARTY HIP-HOP…
*Digital Underground
https://youtu.be/AMRL5WZQl_Q?si=iXFhcqRfyYJv-srs
*CAMP LO
https://youtu.be/5sz1iT_Hc-A?si=py7wQimvGgWhfPvU
NERD CORE
*Mega Ran
https://youtu.be/ByHd3X5xO50?feature=shared
MY PERSONAL FAVE OF THE MOMENT…
Casey Veggies….
https://youtu.be/IPgLsq9mW6o?si=fCW-oQqcR8i_BytG |
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By *ost SockMan 33 weeks ago
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Take a look at The Roots’s NPR Tiny Desk show on YouTube to see how powerful hip-hop acts can be.
They bring in Bilal and a brass band, but they’re very much a hip-hop act overall.
Agree on early Wu-Tang. Some of the solo albums in the 90s are great too. Also agree on Handsome Boy Modelling School.
Why not delve in to some of the turntablists too, as that’s at the heart of the genre. There’s so many legends, like Premier, DJ Shadow (his Endtroducing album is stunning) etc. Skratch Bastid has a great YouTube channel and is hugely inventive.
The best lyricists, producers and DJs in the genre are amazing (often not the ones everyone knows). I say that as someone who’s a classical musician, really . |
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"Take a look at The Roots’s NPR Tiny Desk show on YouTube to see how powerful hip-hop acts can be.
They bring in Bilal and a brass band, but they’re very much a hip-hop act overall.
Agree on early Wu-Tang. Some of the solo albums in the 90s are great too. Also agree on Handsome Boy Modelling School.
Why not delve in to some of the turntablists too, as that’s at the heart of the genre. There’s so many legends, like Premier, DJ Shadow (his Endtroducing album is stunning) etc. Skratch Bastid has a great YouTube channel and is hugely inventive.
The best lyricists, producers and DJs in the genre are amazing (often not the ones everyone knows). I say that as someone who’s a classical musician, really ."
Joell Ortiz - Sing Like Bilal is one of the most perfectly constructed hip hop songs of all time. Premo is the best to ever do it |
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What about British rap / hip hop artists ?
Mike skinner of The streets to me is awesome lyrically very good ??.
Lethal bizzle
Dizzee rascal
Tiny temper.to name but a few?
I know their main stream but again fairly decent.
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Another vote for MF DOOM here
in particular the song Sofa King
pop that into spotify (if you have spotify) go to song radio and see what else pops up that tickles your synapses...
Also love the mixtape SOFT FOCUS by Vanilla - no lyrics all beats and samples
and Pet Sounds in the key of Dee by BULLION - remix of the Beach Boys
Enjoy your discoveries OP!
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"What about British rap / hip hop artists ?
Mike skinner of The streets to me is awesome lyrically very good ??.
Lethal bizzle
Dizzee rascal
Tiny temper.to name but a few?
I know their main stream but again fairly decent.
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I would say all, with the exception of Mr Skinner are predominantly grime artists |
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By (user no longer on site) 33 weeks ago
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I love this track-
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UVtpXvzzXiA
Also as mentioned above, "Entroducing" by dj shadow is a brilliant album.
Also
"The chronic" by Dr dre. It's a 90s album.. but a classic.
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"Probably my age but I'm going to say.
Old old school for me.
Pre 90's
The break dance era with electronic before t-pain"
In fact yes actually I'd say I'm far more of an electo fan than straight rap.
But I am not going to say anything else because someone will be along shortly to disagree with me. |
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"Wow...
...no mention of Pete Rock and CL Smooth? Eric B & Rakim? Gang Starr? And so many others aside from the normal surface stuff?"
Whodini,Run DMC, Jurassic 5, grandmaster flash and the furious 5.
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By (user no longer on site) 33 weeks ago
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And agree with others Gang Starr (Guru is a legend, R.I.P)
The Native Tongues movement was excellent too.
Ok and have a thing for MC Solaar, French Hip Hop is worth a delve imho |
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"So I've been fairly rigid in my music tastes. I've always enjoyed various genres of rock from Indie, to Blues, to Alternative and Metal.
However, I've not really given Hip Hop as rap much of a chance outside of Eminem (Sorry Pickle ), however, I recently really got into Run The Jewels and absolutely love some of the beats and lyrics and want to give more artists a go. Any recommendations? "
Try Eminem infinite album. This the album that got him discovered. Then check all the people that featured and produced on that album.
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"So I've been fairly rigid in my music tastes. I've always enjoyed various genres of rock from Indie, to Blues, to Alternative and Metal.
However, I've not really given Hip Hop as rap much of a chance outside of Eminem (Sorry Pickle ), however, I recently really got into Run The Jewels and absolutely love some of the beats and lyrics and want to give more artists a go. Any recommendations? "
RTJ have a great back catalogue.
I'm more into UK rap nowadays. US rap gone downhill |
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If you like Run the Jewels, you should check out Killer Mike and El-Ps other work. Killer Mike albums Micheal and R.A.P. El-Ps albums Fantastic Damage and the classic album Company Flow - Funcrusher Plus. If you like these check out other Def Jux (El-Ps former record label), albums like Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein and Mr Lif - I Phantom |
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By *rRiosMan 29 weeks ago
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"Atmosphere is pretty good... And Aesop Rock "
Atmosphere is an absolute amazing shout (when life give you lemons). Quite accessible for someone who not really into hip hop/dipping the toe in . Also Kanye, the collage drop out
Some of the suggestions here are not that accessible imo
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