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"Flat earthers are the ones who cry “ this site is shite! . Some stuck up people on here ! And so many fakes “ ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I got kicked out of a Flat Earth group on Facebook during lockdown for asking them if social distancing had pushed anybody over the edge yet" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I got kicked out of a Flat Earth group on Facebook during lockdown for asking them if social distancing had pushed anybody over the edge yet" Worth it. | |||
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"When I was on holiday once I actually seen a boat fall off the edge in the distance. Never to return. Gone!" Well I bet that was quite an event (horizon) | |||
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"I just wonder where they think the edges are. And what happens there." Some think it’s an ice barrier and beyond that lies other realms. ![]() ![]() | |||
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"When I was on holiday once I actually seen a boat fall off the edge in the distance. Never to return. Gone! Well I bet that was quite an event (horizon)" It made me realise my mum was always right afterall. Stay away from the edge | |||
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"I just wonder where they think the edges are. And what happens there." Terry Pratchett's Discworld books explain this perfectly. The Earth is a flat disc, which is balanced on the back of 4 giant elephants, which in turn are standing on the back of a giant turtle named The Great A'Tuin | |||
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"I just wonder where they think the edges are. And what happens there. Terry Pratchett's Discworld books explain this perfectly. The Earth is a flat disc, which is balanced on the back of 4 giant elephants, which in turn are standing on the back of a giant turtle named The Great A'Tuin" I love Discworld! ![]() ![]() | |||
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"When I was on holiday once I actually seen a boat fall off the edge in the distance. Never to return. Gone! Well I bet that was quite an event (horizon) It made me realise my mum was always right afterall. Stay away from the edge" ![]() | |||
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"I just wonder where they think the edges are. And what happens there. Terry Pratchett's Discworld books explain this perfectly. The Earth is a flat disc, which is balanced on the back of 4 giant elephants, which in turn are standing on the back of a giant turtle named The Great A'Tuin I love Discworld! ![]() ![]() Same! Not everyone gets Pratchett's humour, my shelves are full of his books though | |||
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"I just wonder where they think the edges are. And what happens there." Is it like pac-man you go off one side and appear on the other...like when you cross the Baring Straights and go from The west to the east! | |||
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"Where does all the water go when it gets to the edge?" There are cats underneath pushing it back up. | |||
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"If earth was flat the cats would have pushes everything off the edge by now ![]() So true | |||
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"I just wonder where they think the edges are. And what happens there. Terry Pratchett's Discworld books explain this perfectly. The Earth is a flat disc, which is balanced on the back of 4 giant elephants, which in turn are standing on the back of a giant turtle named The Great A'Tuin I love Discworld! ![]() ![]() He was just so damn brilliant! Reaper Man is my favourite it still makes me l.o.l ![]() | |||
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"Where does all the water go when it gets to the edge? There are cats underneath pushing it back up." Nope the 4 elephants are bathing in it | |||
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"If the earth is flat then why do twats in BMW's struggle to drive uphill in icy weather? " ![]() | |||
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"There once was a man called Nicky Who sometimes got logic a bit sticky He came onto fab To act like a sap And see if he could make everyone picky ![]() ![]() | |||
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"There once was a man called Nicky Who sometimes got logic a bit sticky He came onto fab To act like a sap And see if he could make everyone picky ![]() I feel you've rushed this | |||
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"I just wonder where they think the edges are. And what happens there. Terry Pratchett's Discworld books explain this perfectly. The Earth is a flat disc, which is balanced on the back of 4 giant elephants, which in turn are standing on the back of a giant turtle named The Great A'Tuin I love Discworld! ![]() ![]() ![]() I can't remember which book it was off the top of my head, but the one where Death tries to get d*unk had me wetting myself. I think it might have been in Mort | |||
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"I just wonder where they think the edges are. And what happens there. Terry Pratchett's Discworld books explain this perfectly. The Earth is a flat disc, which is balanced on the back of 4 giant elephants, which in turn are standing on the back of a giant turtle named The Great A'Tuin I love Discworld! ![]() ![]() ![]() It was Mort, Death trying to be more human, Mort is my fav book of them all! ![]() | |||
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"I just wonder where they think the edges are. And what happens there. Terry Pratchett's Discworld books explain this perfectly. The Earth is a flat disc, which is balanced on the back of 4 giant elephants, which in turn are standing on the back of a giant turtle named The Great A'Tuin I love Discworld! ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"There once was a man called Nicky Who sometimes got logic a bit sticky He came onto fab To act like a sap And see if he could make everyone picky ![]() I feel if one doesn't know logic is inherently sticky one needs to brush up on one's Gödel, Zeno of Elea, and dialetheism. But I love the way Fluffy keeps me blocked and it was a valiant effort so Fluffy and Willy are always welcomed equally ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I just wonder where they think the edges are. And what happens there. Terry Pratchett's Discworld books explain this perfectly. The Earth is a flat disc, which is balanced on the back of 4 giant elephants, which in turn are standing on the back of a giant turtle named The Great A'Tuin I love Discworld! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I just wonder where they think the edges are. And what happens there. Terry Pratchett's Discworld books explain this perfectly. The Earth is a flat disc, which is balanced on the back of 4 giant elephants, which in turn are standing on the back of a giant turtle named The Great A'Tuin I love Discworld! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"There once was a man called Nicky Who sometimes got logic a bit sticky He came onto fab To act like a sap And see if he could make everyone picky ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() What can I say I was feeling catty ![]() | |||
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"What can I say I was feeling catty ![]() I need to take a paws to consider my riposte... ![]() | |||
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"The only thing the flat earthers fear, is sphere itself" ![]() ![]() | |||
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"What can I say I was feeling catty ![]() ![]() Let's hope it's not a long tail.... | |||
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"The only thing the flat earthers fear, is sphere itself" ![]() ![]() | |||
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"What can I say I was feeling catty ![]() ![]() I may trunk ate it... ![]() | |||
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"I just wonder where they think the edges are. And what happens there. Terry Pratchett's Discworld books explain this perfectly. The Earth is a flat disc, which is balanced on the back of 4 giant elephants, which in turn are standing on the back of a giant turtle named The Great A'Tuin I love Discworld! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Hogfather was excellent.Nothing to do with Michelle Dockery looking hot as Susan......errrm..... | |||
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"The only thing the flat earthers fear, is sphere itself ![]() ![]() Meme, I'm afraid! I gather the real flat earth views are quite convoluted, although they have quite a lot in common with other conspiracy theories - shadowy cabal hiding the truth because reasons, you'll never guess the ethnic background of the cabal, only they know the truth, etc. | |||
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"What can I say I was feeling catty ![]() ![]() ![]() Good grief ![]() | |||
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"I just wonder where they think the edges are. And what happens there. Terry Pratchett's Discworld books explain this perfectly. The Earth is a flat disc, which is balanced on the back of 4 giant elephants, which in turn are standing on the back of a giant turtle named The Great A'Tuin I love Discworld! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I love them all and they're doing a 3rd series of Good Omens! Hurrah! | |||
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"There once was a man called Nicky Who sometimes got logic a bit sticky He came onto fab To act like a sap And see if he could make everyone picky ![]() There once was a Wally called Willy Who really was ever so silly He kept on trying And was ever so prying That silly old billy called Willy ![]() | |||
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"There once was a man called Nicky Who sometimes got logic a bit sticky He came onto fab To act like a sap And see if he could make everyone picky ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I just wonder where they think the edges are. And what happens there. Terry Pratchett's Discworld books explain this perfectly. The Earth is a flat disc, which is balanced on the back of 4 giant elephants, which in turn are standing on the back of a giant turtle named The Great A'Tuin I love Discworld! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() About time they did some of the Watch,Jason Statham as Vimes. | |||
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"There once was a man called Nicky Who sometimes got logic a bit sticky He came onto fab To act like a sap And see if he could make everyone picky ![]() ![]() Much better ![]() | |||
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"I just wonder where they think the edges are. And what happens there. Terry Pratchett's Discworld books explain this perfectly. The Earth is a flat disc, which is balanced on the back of 4 giant elephants, which in turn are standing on the back of a giant turtle named The Great A'Tuin I love Discworld! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Oh yes !! That would be amazing! | |||
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"There once was a man called Nicky Who sometimes got logic a bit sticky He came onto fab To act like a sap And see if he could make everyone picky ![]() ![]() ![]() You’re a twit ![]() | |||
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"I just wonder where they think the edges are. And what happens there. Terry Pratchett's Discworld books explain this perfectly. The Earth is a flat disc, which is balanced on the back of 4 giant elephants, which in turn are standing on the back of a giant turtle named The Great A'Tuin I love Discworld! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() My online gaming handle for years was Sergeant Detritus. what a character. One....two....three....many ![]() | |||
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"I just wonder where they think the edges are. And what happens there. Terry Pratchett's Discworld books explain this perfectly. The Earth is a flat disc, which is balanced on the back of 4 giant elephants, which in turn are standing on the back of a giant turtle named The Great A'Tuin I love Discworld! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Brilliant ![]() ![]() | |||
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"My favourite scientific experiments by these Flat Earther nut jobs are in the documentary ‘Behind the Curve’ made in 2018 (and is on Netflix) . YouTuber Mark Sargent does one experiment, involving a flashlight shining through two holes in boards set a distance apart, it’s a beautiful piece of simple science that serves as the documentary's ending and he’s completely stumped, it’s just blown his bullshit up and the best bit is that it’s by his own hand. ![]() Seen it, comedy gold.... At the end his comment, a very confused "that's.............interesting" I've seen flerfers claim he's an actor. Well, maybe he is. What did you make of the experiment? ![]() | |||
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"I just wonder where they think the edges are. And what happens there." There be pirates! | |||
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"I just wonder where they think the edges are. And what happens there. There be pirates! " Arrrrrrrn't! | |||
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"I just wonder where they think the edges are. And what happens there. Terry Pratchett's Discworld books explain this perfectly. The Earth is a flat disc, which is balanced on the back of 4 giant elephants, which in turn are standing on the back of a giant turtle named The Great A'Tuin I love Discworld! ![]() ![]() I was going to say it sounds alot like a Terry Pratchett novel, the only thing missing is a WIZZARD running amock | |||
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" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() My pleasure Pickle. And you've proven me and the fellow cabal flerfers correct as well. All those circle smiles - well they're flat init! Now, if you could just help me prove the anti-gravity cat thing and get rid of Pratchett's heffalumps I'd be mighty indebted to yer good sel'. ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"My favourite scientific experiments by these Flat Earther nut jobs are in the documentary ‘Behind the Curve’ made in 2018 (and is on Netflix) . YouTuber Mark Sargent does one experiment, involving a flashlight shining through two holes in boards set a distance apart, it’s a beautiful piece of simple science that serves as the documentary's ending and he’s completely stumped, it’s just blown his bullshit up and the best bit is that it’s by his own hand. ![]() ![]() Let's not forget the Creationists either, who believe that the world is only a few thousand years old and that evolution has not happened. Unlike those pesky scientists, with their evidence | |||
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"Let's not forget the Creationists either, who believe that the world is only a few thousand years old and that evolution has not happened. Unlike those pesky scientists, with their evidence " They see through a glass bently ![]() | |||
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"My favourite scientific experiments by these Flat Earther nut jobs are in the documentary ‘Behind the Curve’ made in 2018 (and is on Netflix) . YouTuber Mark Sargent does one experiment, involving a flashlight shining through two holes in boards set a distance apart, it’s a beautiful piece of simple science that serves as the documentary's ending and he’s completely stumped, it’s just blown his bullshit up and the best bit is that it’s by his own hand. ![]() ![]() Saw one the other day debunking evolution because and I quote he's "never seen a monkey born that turned into a human" I'm still pondering if he was serious or just trolling them. ![]() | |||
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"My favourite scientific experiments by these Flat Earther nut jobs are in the documentary ‘Behind the Curve’ made in 2018 (and is on Netflix) . YouTuber Mark Sargent does one experiment, involving a flashlight shining through two holes in boards set a distance apart, it’s a beautiful piece of simple science that serves as the documentary's ending and he’s completely stumped, it’s just blown his bullshit up and the best bit is that it’s by his own hand. ![]() ![]() Yesss! I’ve used “That’s………(adjust pause appropriately)… interesting” many times ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Everyone knows the world is flat because otherwise Australians would be walking on their heads and that would definitely be news that Tom would have reported." I'm almost upset that Tom hasn't appeared here. There's more than a little bit of his inspiration to me in the original thread ![]() ![]() | |||
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"My favourite scientific experiments by these Flat Earther nut jobs are in the documentary ‘Behind the Curve’ made in 2018 (and is on Netflix) . YouTuber Mark Sargent does one experiment, involving a flashlight shining through two holes in boards set a distance apart, it’s a beautiful piece of simple science that serves as the documentary's ending and he’s completely stumped, it’s just blown his bullshit up and the best bit is that it’s by his own hand. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I spend way too much time on a Flerfer Facebook page. On the other hand, it's better than any comedy on the telly. Fler; talking about "we Americans" Me; I'm not in America. Flerfer; you are!!! Me; I'm not. Flerfer; then how did you get on this page?????? Me; saw it, thought it would be fun, asked to join, accepted. Flerfer; that's a lie. Facebook is American. If you're not American you can't join!!!! Me; and yet here I am along with 32 million other Brits. Looks at Flerfers profile Me; I see you've got friends from 9 different countries............ *leaves comment hanging | |||
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"Everyone knows the world is flat because otherwise Australians would be walking on their heads and that would definitely be news that Tom would have reported." Along with the bonus MMR I had to have when I came to the UK, I also needed to train for months to get used to a lot less blood rushing to my head. And on a bad day, seeing everything upside down still makes me dizzy. ... flamin' galahs the lot of youse | |||
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"Everyone knows the world is flat because otherwise Australians would be walking on their heads and that would definitely be news that Tom would have reported. Along with the bonus MMR I had to have when I came to the UK, I also needed to train for months to get used to a lot less blood rushing to my head. And on a bad day, seeing everything upside down still makes me dizzy. ... flamin' galahs the lot of youse" I bet you can see the cats if it's all upside down ![]() | |||
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"Everyone knows the world is flat because otherwise Australians would be walking on their heads and that would definitely be news that Tom would have reported. Along with the bonus MMR I had to have when I came to the UK, I also needed to train for months to get used to a lot less blood rushing to my head. And on a bad day, seeing everything upside down still makes me dizzy. ... flamin' galahs the lot of youse I bet you can see the cats if it's all upside down ![]() the cats are bloody everywhere. bloody foreigners, coming over here, killing our wildlife, wanting to know what love is | |||
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"I bet you can see the cats if it's all upside down ![]() Well, I've gotta take a little time, but do you want me to show them? | |||
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"I just wonder where they think the edges are. And what happens there. Terry Pratchett's Discworld books explain this perfectly. The Earth is a flat disc, which is balanced on the back of 4 giant elephants, which in turn are standing on the back of a giant turtle named The Great A'Tuin I love Discworld! ![]() ![]() Me too | |||
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"Im convinced even flat earthers don't believe the stuff they come out with. They just like to go against the grain me thinks. Look at the horizon, pics of earth from satellites. All the history of scientists trying to calculate the mass. The tides. The annoying thing is, i think flat earthers are just trying to annoy pps & i still let it annoy me lol. " Being (mildly) serious for a moment, I think behavioural/philosophical and psychological approaches to understanding any form of thinking (crazy or mainstream) are often more revealing than the "Jo said xxxx. Discuss how true xxxx is" approach. These things operate on many levels, probably most of which we're yet to uncover. Fascinating stuff ![]() | |||
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"Im convinced even flat earthers don't believe the stuff they come out with. They just like to go against the grain me thinks. Look at the horizon, pics of earth from satellites. All the history of scientists trying to calculate the mass. The tides. The annoying thing is, i think flat earthers are just trying to annoy pps & i still let it annoy me lol. Being (mildly) serious for a moment, I think behavioural/philosophical and psychological approaches to understanding any form of thinking (crazy or mainstream) are often more revealing than the "Jo said xxxx. Discuss how true xxxx is" approach. These things operate on many levels, probably most of which we're yet to uncover. Fascinating stuff ![]() Nice reply tbf ![]() | |||
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"My favourite scientific experiments by these Flat Earther nut jobs are in the documentary ‘Behind the Curve’ made in 2018 (and is on Netflix) . YouTuber Mark Sargent does one experiment, involving a flashlight shining through two holes in boards set a distance apart, it’s a beautiful piece of simple science that serves as the documentary's ending and he’s completely stumped, it’s just blown his bullshit up and the best bit is that it’s by his own hand. ![]() ![]() Evidence. Schmevidence. Who needs experts (said Michael Gove to his mates) ![]() | |||
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"Im convinced even flat earthers don't believe the stuff they come out with. They just like to go against the grain me thinks. Look at the horizon, pics of earth from satellites. All the history of scientists trying to calculate the mass. The tides. The annoying thing is, i think flat earthers are just trying to annoy pps & i still let it annoy me lol. Being (mildly) serious for a moment, I think behavioural/philosophical and psychological approaches to understanding any form of thinking (crazy or mainstream) are often more revealing than the "Jo said xxxx. Discuss how true xxxx is" approach. These things operate on many levels, probably most of which we're yet to uncover. Fascinating stuff ![]() Yes. The why is more important than the what. I'm convinced it's a deep fear and inability to deal with that fear. A sense of powerlessness and a need for control. Rather than therapy, meds, and maybe a bit of a cry (been there, done that), they go for "I know a secret that makes me powerful and at least I'm better off than you in this screaming late capitalist death spiral". I just wish they'd dissemble in private and not inflict it on the rest of us. | |||
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"Yes. The why is more important than the what. I'm convinced it's a deep fear and inability to deal with that fear. A sense of powerlessness and a need for control. Rather than therapy, meds, and maybe a bit of a cry (been there, done that), they go for "I know a secret that makes me powerful and at least I'm better off than you in this screaming late capitalist death spiral". I just wish they'd dissemble in private and not inflict it on the rest of us." Agreed (mostly). There have been quite a few studies looking at the link in the upsurge of "alt" to the increase in post-Financial Crash/Austerity economic conditions. The "spanner in the works" is how much the ascendancy of social media has also played a role. The thing I'd disagree with is, although they're fucking annoying, most fucking annoying people (not all - some are made that way and that's a separate conversation) wouldn't be fucking annoying if they had better life prospects, education, travel, connections and so on. So I want to change their worlds, rather than let them congregate madly and sadly in private. Whilst taking the piss out of them like this thread does too, obvs. My brutal cunt does need to come out and play as a brutal cunt. So we have lost a lot of good potential since 07/08, and there are, and always were, many ways that could have been so different. Humans. More work required, definitely not a finished article. Now, where have my anti-gravity cats gone to, and if anyone finds a stray goat or three, they're definitely not mine ![]() | |||
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"Im convinced even flat earthers don't believe the stuff they come out with. They just like to go against the grain me thinks. Look at the horizon, pics of earth from satellites. All the history of scientists trying to calculate the mass. The tides. The annoying thing is, i think flat earthers are just trying to annoy pps & i still let it annoy me lol. Being (mildly) serious for a moment, I think behavioural/philosophical and psychological approaches to understanding any form of thinking (crazy or mainstream) are often more revealing than the "Jo said xxxx. Discuss how true xxxx is" approach. These things operate on many levels, probably most of which we're yet to uncover. Fascinating stuff ![]() I think you’re right, not only was the Flat Earth Society originally a biblical literalist group, trying to create world models based on the bible but if these people were to embrace the fact that the earth is a globe, spinning, they are forced to accept the invisible force of Gravity and all the connotations and science that comes with it - I know we laugh at these science deniers, all communicating on the internet, with miracles of science IPhones, satellite comms and fibre optics that circle the planet but I think they are genuinely scared of scientific cognitive thought and do anything to simplify their world view. Bless them ![]() | |||
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"Yes. The why is more important than the what. I'm convinced it's a deep fear and inability to deal with that fear. A sense of powerlessness and a need for control. Rather than therapy, meds, and maybe a bit of a cry (been there, done that), they go for "I know a secret that makes me powerful and at least I'm better off than you in this screaming late capitalist death spiral". I just wish they'd dissemble in private and not inflict it on the rest of us. Agreed (mostly). There have been quite a few studies looking at the link in the upsurge of "alt" to the increase in post-Financial Crash/Austerity economic conditions. The "spanner in the works" is how much the ascendancy of social media has also played a role. The thing I'd disagree with is, although they're fucking annoying, most fucking annoying people (not all - some are made that way and that's a separate conversation) wouldn't be fucking annoying if they had better life prospects, education, travel, connections and so on. So I want to change their worlds, rather than let them congregate madly and sadly in private. Whilst taking the piss out of them like this thread does too, obvs. My brutal cunt does need to come out and play as a brutal cunt. So we have lost a lot of good potential since 07/08, and there are, and always were, many ways that could have been so different. Humans. More work required, definitely not a finished article. Now, where have my anti-gravity cats gone to, and if anyone finds a stray goat or three, they're definitely not mine ![]() We/they have access to education, research and information than any of our preceeding generations. And yet.......... We though lack of access to information was the cause of poor understanding. Nope. Wasn't that. | |||
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"Im convinced even flat earthers don't believe the stuff they come out with. They just like to go against the grain me thinks. Look at the horizon, pics of earth from satellites. All the history of scientists trying to calculate the mass. The tides. The annoying thing is, i think flat earthers are just trying to annoy pps & i still let it annoy me lol. Being (mildly) serious for a moment, I think behavioural/philosophical and psychological approaches to understanding any form of thinking (crazy or mainstream) are often more revealing than the "Jo said xxxx. Discuss how true xxxx is" approach. These things operate on many levels, probably most of which we're yet to uncover. Fascinating stuff ![]() ![]() Flat earthers are an easy one to pick on because their cognitive biases clearly conflict with so much other evidence. The deeper problem for me is that we _all_ have at least one thing that we pdeeply believe to be true that isn’t - we know that must be the case because no one is right about everything and yet we all truly believe everything we “know” is true. Therefore, by definition, we are all susceptible to these biases but will have no idea about it. | |||
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"Im convinced even flat earthers don't believe the stuff they come out with. They just like to go against the grain me thinks. Look at the horizon, pics of earth from satellites. All the history of scientists trying to calculate the mass. The tides. The annoying thing is, i think flat earthers are just trying to annoy pps & i still let it annoy me lol. Being (mildly) serious for a moment, I think behavioural/philosophical and psychological approaches to understanding any form of thinking (crazy or mainstream) are often more revealing than the "Jo said xxxx. Discuss how true xxxx is" approach. These things operate on many levels, probably most of which we're yet to uncover. Fascinating stuff ![]() ![]() True but I’m open to being presented with evidence contrary to my beliefs and will adopt a new position accordingly. Conspiracy theorists and flat earthers will not change their minds, adopting anything which might support their stance, which is why they are so derided. | |||
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"Flat earthers are an easy one to pick on because their cognitive biases clearly conflict with so much other evidence. The deeper problem for me is that we _all_ have at least one thing that we pdeeply believe to be true that isn’t - we know that must be the case because no one is right about everything and yet we all truly believe everything we “know” is true. Therefore, by definition, we are all susceptible to these biases but will have no idea about it." Agreed in nearly all parts. There's a term in philosophy called "transcendental signifier", which means (among other things) the unevidenced/unproven belief(s) you hold upon which other beliefs are built. In maths, two examples are the concepts of infinity and zero. Unproven, but bloody useful. Biology emerges from chemistry, chemistry emerges from physics, physics can't resolve quantum and relative, and maths underlies/supports a lot of physics. So, sorry scientists, but you too are operating within belief systems. Much better belief systems than prior millennia have afforded us, but belief systems nonetheless. Whitehead, Russell, and Quine were good at digging this in the ribs from the analytic/mathematic school, Gödel from mathematics, and Foucault, de Beauvoir, Derrida and others from the continental school. Plus, it doesn't seem too crazy to make the statement "until we know EVERYTHING, we can't say ANYTHING with certainty". Because we don't know how the slightest piece of missing information affects the overall picture. And then we can discuss whether "knowing" is sufficient to explain "being"...you can choose Hamlet from the arts, any range of philosophers, particularly posthuman philosophy and how it engages with anthropocentrism, and unresolved science too. So yup - I agree. Science is so much better than gods or other belief systems, because it gathers sufficient "evidence" to support a theory experimentally, but it's also flapping around, and its own "transcendental signifiers" are unproven for being up to the job of significant further inroads into knowledge...let alone wisdom. There are some very good minds pushing at those boundaries now. I can imagine, whatever they discover and it becomes the "new knowledge", that too will be displaced in time. I hope we're still around as a species to enjoy the adventure. BTW - has anyone seen a stray goat on the threads? It's not mine - just curious ![]() | |||
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"Yes. The why is more important than the what. I'm convinced it's a deep fear and inability to deal with that fear. A sense of powerlessness and a need for control. Rather than therapy, meds, and maybe a bit of a cry (been there, done that), they go for "I know a secret that makes me powerful and at least I'm better off than you in this screaming late capitalist death spiral". I just wish they'd dissemble in private and not inflict it on the rest of us. Agreed (mostly). There have been quite a few studies looking at the link in the upsurge of "alt" to the increase in post-Financial Crash/Austerity economic conditions. The "spanner in the works" is how much the ascendancy of social media has also played a role. The thing I'd disagree with is, although they're fucking annoying, most fucking annoying people (not all - some are made that way and that's a separate conversation) wouldn't be fucking annoying if they had better life prospects, education, travel, connections and so on. So I want to change their worlds, rather than let them congregate madly and sadly in private. Whilst taking the piss out of them like this thread does too, obvs. My brutal cunt does need to come out and play as a brutal cunt. So we have lost a lot of good potential since 07/08, and there are, and always were, many ways that could have been so different. Humans. More work required, definitely not a finished article. Now, where have my anti-gravity cats gone to, and if anyone finds a stray goat or three, they're definitely not mine ![]() Oh, for sure. Durkheim's anomie rises again. Society has a lot to answer for, and I can want them to fuck off on a personal level and want to chip in on a societal level. | |||
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"Yes. The why is more important than the what. I'm convinced it's a deep fear and inability to deal with that fear. A sense of powerlessness and a need for control. Rather than therapy, meds, and maybe a bit of a cry (been there, done that), they go for "I know a secret that makes me powerful and at least I'm better off than you in this screaming late capitalist death spiral". I just wish they'd dissemble in private and not inflict it on the rest of us. Agreed (mostly). There have been quite a few studies looking at the link in the upsurge of "alt" to the increase in post-Financial Crash/Austerity economic conditions. The "spanner in the works" is how much the ascendancy of social media has also played a role. The thing I'd disagree with is, although they're fucking annoying, most fucking annoying people (not all - some are made that way and that's a separate conversation) wouldn't be fucking annoying if they had better life prospects, education, travel, connections and so on. So I want to change their worlds, rather than let them congregate madly and sadly in private. Whilst taking the piss out of them like this thread does too, obvs. My brutal cunt does need to come out and play as a brutal cunt. So we have lost a lot of good potential since 07/08, and there are, and always were, many ways that could have been so different. Humans. More work required, definitely not a finished article. Now, where have my anti-gravity cats gone to, and if anyone finds a stray goat or three, they're definitely not mine ![]() You win. You gave us Durkheim. Game, set, match, and Championship ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I take the vue of it being eliptical, a theory that might partially satisfy those with diametrically opposed vues in pursue of an all inclusive world. " You just say that because it neatly segues into describing your bum-shape, then you make them dinner...and after that they're trapped in your web! I know how you operate BumBums...and it's quite wonderful ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I peered over the precipice this morning ![]() I read this as peed ![]() | |||
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"I peered over the precipice this morning ![]() You can get cream for that x | |||
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"I just wonder where they think the edges are. And what happens there. Some think it’s an ice barrier and beyond that lies other realms. ![]() ![]() MORDOR. ![]() | |||
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"I peered over the precipice this morning ![]() ![]() I read it as both and that gave me even more ![]() | |||
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"I just wonder where they think the edges are. And what happens there. Some think it’s an ice barrier and beyond that lies other realms. ![]() ![]() ![]() I hear there's been one? | |||
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"If the Earth is flat, what's on the underside!! 4 elephants and a turtle." ![]() ![]() | |||
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"If the Earth is flat, what's on the underside!! 4 elephants and a turtle." ![]() | |||
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"Anyone thinking of satellite broadband services? Or mobile? " Not sexually. Bit niche ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I peered over the precipice this morning ![]() ![]() I'll do that tomorrow. Does anyone have a She-Wee I can borrow? | |||
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"If earth was flat the cats would have pushes everything off the edge by now ![]() This ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Aren't we stuck to the shell of the great space turtle. ![]() Technically we're on the tops of four elephants standing atop the shell of the great A'Tuin.... ![]() | |||
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"Aren't we stuck to the shell of the great space turtle. ![]() ![]() And they're all socialists! Thankfully... ![]() | |||
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"I love conspiracy theorists. I explained to a guy once that one of the best conspiracies was the cabal's active choice to encourage conspiracy theories when they came to Earth (flat or oblate spheroid irrelevant at this juncture ![]() __ You pushed him to the edge | |||
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"I love conspiracy theorists. I explained to a guy once that one of the best conspiracies was the cabal's active choice to encourage conspiracy theories when they came to Earth (flat or oblate spheroid irrelevant at this juncture ![]() Oh that was good ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I love conspiracy theorists. I explained to a guy once that one of the best conspiracies was the cabal's active choice to encourage conspiracy theories when they came to Earth (flat or oblate spheroid irrelevant at this juncture ![]() When he said he enjoyed edging, this was not what he expected! | |||
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"I really don't understand how people think it's hard to believe. There's nothing in orbits that can't be explained with triangles (if you try hard enough), and people say COVID was a circle like planets, but if you look at a wheel it doesn't make sense without straight spokes so circles can't be trusted anyway. Plus, you can only see planets through microscopes and COVID through telescopes, and their eyes are bent glass, so of course everything seems bent if you look at it bently. Is it Summer yet?" so you do fall off the edge? ![]() | |||
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"I really don't understand how people think it's hard to believe. There's nothing in orbits that can't be explained with triangles (if you try hard enough), and people say COVID was a circle like planets, but if you look at a wheel it doesn't make sense without straight spokes so circles can't be trusted anyway. Plus, you can only see planets through microscopes and COVID through telescopes, and their eyes are bent glass, so of course everything seems bent if you look at it bently. Is it Summer yet?so you do fall off the edge? ![]() I daren't Fred - I can't spend 8,862 hours waiting for the poor NHS to deal with the sprain when I hit the elephants... ![]() | |||
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"I really don't understand how people think it's hard to believe. There's nothing in orbits that can't be explained with triangles (if you try hard enough), and people say COVID was a circle like planets, but if you look at a wheel it doesn't make sense without straight spokes so circles can't be trusted anyway. Plus, you can only see planets through microscopes and COVID through telescopes, and their eyes are bent glass, so of course everything seems bent if you look at it bently. Is it Summer yet?so you do fall off the edge? ![]() ![]() you'll be in orbit though ![]() | |||
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"I really don't understand how people think it's hard to believe. There's nothing in orbits that can't be explained with triangles (if you try hard enough), and people say COVID was a circle like planets, but if you look at a wheel it doesn't make sense without straight spokes so circles can't be trusted anyway. Plus, you can only see planets through microscopes and COVID through telescopes, and their eyes are bent glass, so of course everything seems bent if you look at it bently. Is it Summer yet?so you do fall off the edge? ![]() ![]() ![]() Fred - gravity trebles at the edges and pulls you onto the elephants. Because of the triangles ![]() | |||
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"I really don't understand how people think it's hard to believe. There's nothing in orbits that can't be explained with triangles (if you try hard enough), and people say COVID was a circle like planets, but if you look at a wheel it doesn't make sense without straight spokes so circles can't be trusted anyway. Plus, you can only see planets through microscopes and COVID through telescopes, and their eyes are bent glass, so of course everything seems bent if you look at it bently. Is it Summer yet?so you do fall off the edge? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Pythagorus said that he who falls off the edge will triple his speed in 10.2 seconds and quadruple his speed at 15.3 seconds and then be in orbit ![]() | |||
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"I really don't understand how people think it's hard to believe. There's nothing in orbits that can't be explained with triangles (if you try hard enough), and people say COVID was a circle like planets, but if you look at a wheel it doesn't make sense without straight spokes so circles can't be trusted anyway. Plus, you can only see planets through microscopes and COVID through telescopes, and their eyes are bent glass, so of course everything seems bent if you look at it bently. Is it Summer yet?so you do fall off the edge? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I really don't understand how people think it's hard to believe. There's nothing in orbits that can't be explained with triangles (if you try hard enough), and people say COVID was a circle like planets, but if you look at a wheel it doesn't make sense without straight spokes so circles can't be trusted anyway. Plus, you can only see planets through microscopes and COVID through telescopes, and their eyes are bent glass, so of course everything seems bent if you look at it bently. Is it Summer yet?so you do fall off the edge? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() lol touché ![]() | |||
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"I really don't understand how people think it's hard to believe. There's nothing in orbits that can't be explained with triangles (if you try hard enough), and people say COVID was a circle like planets, but if you look at a wheel it doesn't make sense without straight spokes so circles can't be trusted anyway. Plus, you can only see planets through microscopes and COVID through telescopes, and their eyes are bent glass, so of course everything seems bent if you look at it bently. Is it Summer yet?so you do fall off the edge? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"If earth was flat the cats would have pushes everything off the edge by now ![]() Settles it! | |||
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"I really don't understand how people think it's hard to believe. There's nothing in orbits that can't be explained with triangles (if you try hard enough), and people say COVID was a circle like planets, but if you look at a wheel it doesn't make sense without straight spokes so circles can't be trusted anyway. Plus, you can only see planets through microscopes and COVID through telescopes, and their eyes are bent glass, so of course everything seems bent if you look at it bently. Is it Summer yet?so you do fall off the edge? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Is a triangle just a circle that’s built themselves a den? | |||
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"Flat Earthers they have members all around the world ![]() I see what you did there… ![]() | |||
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"Probably a polyshape with properties that describe its vertices, solid regions, and holes. ![]() You do develop complex code for "I fancy a bloody good Bank Holiday bumming" you know BumBums xxxx | |||
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"I just wonder where they think the edges are. And what happens there." Apparently it's an ice wall, guarded by trained penguins. That no ones ever seen the ice wall, knows how the penguins were trained, how they kill, whoos been killed or where the bodies are buried all appear wholly irrelevant. My favourite youtube clip is the flat earther who created an experiment to prove beyond doubt the earth is flat. Experiment failed miserably and obviously. He can be heard in his clearly baffled exclamation "this is...............interesting???????? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"My thread fell flat... Blame NASA, thats what Flerfs do..... ![]() Do you think terfs who are flerfs exist? | |||
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"My thread fell flat... Blame NASA, thats what Flerfs do..... ![]() Only those who play with nerf guns. | |||
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"What I’d like to know (I believe the earth is round btw) is if it’s flat, why keep it secret? I mean a real reason to keep it secret, because to be totally honest it would have zero effect on me as it all works ok now irrelevant of its shape." Well, if we all knew...we'd probably go and annoy the hell out of those poor elephants and the turtle ![]() ![]() | |||
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"What I’d like to know (I believe the earth is round btw) is if it’s flat, why keep it secret? I mean a real reason to keep it secret, because to be totally honest it would have zero effect on me as it all works ok now irrelevant of its shape. Well, if we all knew...we'd probably go and annoy the hell out of those poor elephants and the turtle ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"It all comes down to religion some christians beleive god made the earth flat with a firmament according to the bible and jews beleive it were made round then something along the lines of.... If people thought it were flat they would want to try see whats at the other side wheras a ball nobody would bother unless theyre hamsters " It would be pretty cool if we found giant hamsters running around inside the world though...wonder what the flat earthers would make of that ![]() | |||
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"Giant fire-breathing phase-doppleganger space hamsters. I saw them in the Dungeons & Dragons Spelljammer Monstrous Compendium, so they must be true. ![]() SpaceHamster???...if only I had a username left for this year.... | |||
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"There are many forms of conspiracy theory nut job, 9/11 inside job loonies, moon landing denying weirdos, religious crackpots, but easily the most stupid of all are the village idiot society idiots, just laugh at them & be thankful you're not like them. " ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Giant fire-breathing phase-doppleganger space hamsters. I saw them in the Dungeons & Dragons Spelljammer Monstrous Compendium, so they must be true. ![]() You could be a Miniature Giant Space Hamster - same size as a normal hamster. ![]() | |||
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"I’ve always suspected the world to be hedgehog shaped. I have no empirical proof whatsoever to substantiate this claim but Dave down the pub said it so it must be true. He also told me that drinking one’s own urine bestows superhuman powers… I’ve downed a pint of my own piss already today and think that I’m starting to develop x-ray vision. These meds are great by the way ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I’ve always suspected the world to be hedgehog shaped. I have no empirical proof whatsoever to substantiate this claim but Dave down the pub said it so it must be true. He also told me that drinking one’s own urine bestows superhuman powers… I’ve downed a pint of my own piss already today and think that I’m starting to develop x-ray vision. These meds are great by the way ![]() Actually, the reality is that it's actually shaped like a Gargantuan Space Hamster with ogre hairbrushes strapped to it with Snipplewhapper's Superglue. Hence the aspect of the hedgehog. Try putting all the red meds in one bowl and flicking them into your mouth like peanuts. ![]() | |||
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"... and try gargling the piss. Your colleagues will love you for it. ![]() Thank you Davina xxx. I'm so pleased we can close "Flat Earth" with "Piss-Gargle". They belong together ![]() | |||
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