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A serious one from Brucey!
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I believe that you have hit the metaphorical nail squarely on the head in your conjecture also; men need to learn to open up more and cast aside societies old stereotypical, wholly unrealistic and indeed, psychologically unhealthy expectations of ‘being a man’. | |||
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Just raising a discussion! | |||
"But to add to this...are women less sympathetic to men?
Just raising a discussion!"Less sympathetic than what? | |||
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"But to add to this...are women less sympathetic to men?
Just raising a discussion!"What do you think? | |||
"But to add to this...are women less sympathetic to men?
Just raising a discussion!"I would love to say no but I do think there are still some women with an unfair expectation of men which isolates them further. A lot of my male service users will only speak to other men due to bad experiences trying to talk to women. Whether that’s their partners, friends, sisters etc. The culture is shifting, but women also need to get behind that shift and do better. | |||
"But to add to this...are women less sympathetic to men?
Just raising a discussion!
Less sympathetic than what?"Anything really. Can women get away with calling men shit more than men can women? For 'bantering' that would be massively controversial if a man said those things to a woman? | |||
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"Can women get away with calling men shit more than men can women? For 'bantering' that would be massively controversial if a man said those things to a woman?" Pretty sure women as a whole put a lot more negative energy and viciousness towards other women than they do to men. | |||
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"Women attempt it more often... Men are just better at it" Actually looking it up, women is only 1.2x higher on intent, and many of those are harming themselves cases where its not ever going to actually finish them | |||
"Women attempt it more often... Men are just better at it" I suppose if a man is told he is shit, useless and can't do anything right often enough, then ending it is getting the last word in and proving them wrong at the same time. | |||
"I am aware that the means by which men attempt are often more violent and likely to reach completion then women. " I’ve heard this too. | |||
"There are many contributing factors Brucey. The toxic masculinity of not seeking help for the sake of appearing weak. The conditioning to be more selfish and prioritise themselves over the people they leave behind. General propensity to violence or physical reactions to a higher degree. The world is an incredibly fucking depressing place. I can see why so many see it as a way out "This rings true. | |||
"Women attempt it more often... Men are just better at it Actually looking it up, women is only 1.2x higher on intent, and many of those are harming themselves cases where its not ever going to actually finish them " The stats I found are • In England, approximately 8% of women and 5% of men report they have attempted suicide at some point in their lives (McManus et al., 2016)! • In Scotland, 13.8% of women and 8.8% of men between 18 and 34 years old report to have attempted suicide (O'Connor et al., 2018); and of those who had attempted suicide, most had also engaged in self-harm (R. O'Connor et al., 2018). • In England and Scotland, the gender difference for attempted suicide is greatest between men and women aged 16-25 years (McManus et al., 2016; R. O'Connor et al., 2018). | |||
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"Women attempt it more often... Men are just better at it" Because it’s not a rash decision. You think what is the one I can follow it through to the end and not back out or get scared.  | |||
"There are many contributing factors Brucey. The toxic masculinity of not seeking help for the sake of appearing weak. The conditioning to be more selfish and prioritise themselves over the people they leave behind. General propensity to violence or physical reactions to a higher degree. The world is an incredibly fucking depressing place. I can see why so many see it as a way out
This rings true."Men tend to seek "violent" s while women tend to pick chemical ones and that means they are more likely to be found and revived, but more longer term health effects  | |||
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"If I recall correctly, a study a few years ago showed that men and women attempt S in roughly equal numbers. The difference in outcome figures is that men usually have access to and/or choose methods that are more likely to be lethal." Yeah I've seen several studies, saying it's equal just men tend be more successful at it. | |||
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"Women attempt it more often... Men are just better at it Actually looking it up, women is only 1.2x higher on intent, and many of those are harming themselves cases where its not ever going to actually finish them The stats I found are • In England, approximately 8% of women and 5% of men report they have attempted suicide at some point in their lives (McManus et al., 2016)! • In Scotland, 13.8% of women and 8.8% of men between 18 and 34 years old report to have attempted suicide (O'Connor et al., 2018); and of those who had attempted suicide, most had also engaged in self-harm (R. O'Connor et al., 2018). • In England and Scotland, the gender difference for attempted suicide is greatest between men and women aged 16-25 years (McManus et al., 2016; R. O'Connor et al., 2018)." So according to the statistics women are no more successful at working through their MH problems than men, even with their willingness to open up and talk. That's pretty scary. | |||
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"There are many contributing factors Brucey. The toxic masculinity of not seeking help for the sake of appearing weak. The conditioning to be more selfish and prioritise themselves over the people they leave behind. General propensity to violence or physical reactions to a higher degree. The world is an incredibly fucking depressing place. I can see why so many see it as a way out
This rings true." | |||
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