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By *eal_Dick_Turpin OP   Man  over a year ago

Exeter

FAB is like every other dating/sex place I have known since the rise of the net, in that the commonly held "fact" is that for every woman online there are several million men.

To some extent, in the early days, this was true, but certainly since the advent of the smartphone it certainly is not true, if anything more women are around than men, they are just a lot quieter about it... peacock vs peahen.

The fact is, there are only enough hours in the day for me to get through a certain finite number of women, or more accurately, sex acts, and provided I can find enough women willing to perform those sex acts with me, then everything else is surplus.

Once the supply of available women (or men if you are a woman etc) meets or exceeds the number you can reasonably meet, everything else is a surplus.

As soon as there is a surplus of anything, the value of each individual thing starts getting analysed in a qualitative sense and not a quantitative sense.

If I can't get enough women then anything even remotely female will do, once I can get enough then I can and will get picky, and excluding those with attributes I find less desirable.

ergo, if the commonly held fact that there are 957,351 men for every woman on here, two things would happen.

1/ men would be offering to fuck absolutely any woman, no offer refused, no matter what she wanted, what she looked like, where she was, etc etc etc.

2/ women would be getting so picky that they would be able to say things like "5 foot nine is too short, and 5 foot ten is too tall, biceps must be between x and y, IQ must be between a and b" and so on.

3/ no man on here would ever, ever, ever use the block function on any woman or couple.

Fact is, this is not the case, and it appears to me that much of the strife, and much of the forums threads, are down to the fact that people's perceptions of this "marketplace" demographically speaking do not match reality.

For example

A club that lets girls in free but charges men admission, knowing that a club full of girls will attract men, who will then buy the girls drinks, is a marketing and business strategy, it isn't a reflection on the demographics in that city, which will have slightly more females than males as per the general population.

Chances are the girls have an iphone, and the boys have an android, again, just because of a marketing and business strategy.

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In many ways our profiles are a marketing strategy in a marketplace, which leads to three further observations.

1/ If YOUR marketing strategy is not producing the results YOU seek, then perhaps the problem lies in the marketing, not the perceived demographics, or perhaps the problem lies in the product itself, not the demographics, real or imagined.

2/ If YOUR marketing strategy is not to MY taste, then either that strategy is effective (keeping android buyers out of iphone stores) and I am not what you seek, or it is just bad marketing and is failing to attract those you seek as well as those you would avoid.

3/ if you labour under misconceptions, you could achieve a successful but bad marketing strategy, your iphone shop is attracting hundreds of customers a day, but almost none of them are after an iphone, they are looking for headphones, mp3 players, netbooks, you name it.

so if you are having issues with supply and demand, the problem isn't some imagined demographic slant against you, even if there are 10 men for every woman, there are more women on here than any one man could have time or energy to work his way through in a lifetime, so if the issue is not supply and demand, it can only be down to the product not being suitable for the market, or the marketing of the product not being effective.

===================================

The real lesson here is the mistake I see time and again and again and again...

"what do women want?"

By definition, any attempt to market yourself to ALL women on here will succeed only in marketing yourself badly to all women on here.

The successful tactic is to target selectively, and by definition exclude and even alienate many of the potential customers... alienating an android user never cost one single iphone sale, and in fact promoted fanboi brand loyalty with iphone users.

Don't ask what ALL women want, find out what some women want, and see if you are that thing, and you will find that there are more women available than you have practical time to meet.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Got plenty of time on your hands or something.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Prefer not to be 'targeted' thanks (or stalked, it's weird).

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By *eal_Dick_Turpin OP   Man  over a year ago

Exeter


"Prefer not to be 'targeted' thanks (or stalked, it's weird)."

A rose by any other name.

you say to-mah-toe, I say to-may-toe

you say "profile", I say "advert"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

An eloquent and well thought out post which makes it's point very well I think.

Shame that none of the people with those particular issues will ever read it.

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By *eal_Dick_Turpin OP   Man  over a year ago

Exeter


"Got plenty of time on your hands or something. "

yes, the deep, deep joys of watching CA OSIM try and deploy a build over a saturated network from a saturated virtual server... ugh

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By *Ryan-Man  over a year ago

In Your Bush

I'll have a pint of what you're drinking

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'll have a pint of what you're drinking"

Ryan, dear, come and see me on my thread

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'll have a pint of what you're drinking"

Not sure I will, seems to make the brain go funny!

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By *empting Devil.Woman  over a year ago

Sheffield

Funny how clubs make it so cheap for single women to get in but we're still massively outnumbered by single men who pay through the nose...

Funny those selfsame clubs charge less than most high st pubs for drinks or let you bring your own so they aren't profiting that much from the drinks payments...

Funny how someone can stare at a problem for so long that he completely misses the essence of it...

Funny how someone manages to offend/discourage the people he would ideally like to impress by overthinking the issue...

Funny.

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By *eal_Dick_Turpin OP   Man  over a year ago

Exeter


"Funny how clubs make it so cheap for single women to get in but we're still massively outnumbered by single men who pay through the nose...

Funny those selfsame clubs charge less than most high st pubs for drinks or let you bring your own so they aren't profiting that much from the drinks payments...

Funny how someone can stare at a problem for so long that he completely misses the essence of it...

Funny how someone manages to offend/discourage the people he would ideally like to impress by overthinking the issue...

Funny."

"Whooosh"

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By *empting Devil.Woman  over a year ago

Sheffield

The real lesson here is to target what you as an individual want. Why try to answer what others want when we are all here for our own pleasure?

Is any hole a goal? Are you really prepared to meet a womans requirements even if she doesn't meet yours?

Do you really think that women on here and in clubs are ignorant of the men who are trying to say what they think we want to hear?

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By *eal_Dick_Turpin OP   Man  over a year ago

Exeter


"The real lesson here is to target what you as an individual want. Why try to answer what others want when we are all here for our own pleasure?

Is any hole a goal? Are you really prepared to meet a womans requirements even if she doesn't meet yours?

Do you really think that women on here and in clubs are ignorant of the men who are trying to say what they think we want to hear?

"

I will assume that this cannot possibly be directed at me, as it is simply not possible for an intelligent human being to read what I wrote and pull any of those implications out of it... as *nothing* you stated in this answer in any way contradicts anything I said.

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By *empting Devil.Woman  over a year ago

Sheffield

Unfortunately you made your points so badly and with so much waffle that it reads like the ramblings of someone who is miffed and sulky rather than simply stating:

Look for people who are looking for similar things and who's preferences you match and message them with courtesy and consideration and you'll have success.

One sentence. That's all it takes.

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By *empting Devil.Woman  over a year ago

Sheffield

Oh, and android here.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Oh, and android here."

Here too. Can't stand the iphone platform.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Is any hole a goal? "

Nope - it's a target

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Oh, and android here.

Here too. Can't stand the iphone platform. "

MIND THE GAP

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"Is any hole a goal?

Nope - it's a target

"

Some people miss it entirely....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Is any hole a goal?

Nope - it's a target

Some people miss it entirely...."

ouch!

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By *aucy3Couple  over a year ago

glasgow


"FAB is like every other dating/sex place I have known since the rise of the net, in that the commonly held "fact" is that for every woman online there are several million men.

To some extent, in the early days, this was true, but certainly since the advent of the smartphone it certainly is not true, if anything more women are around than men, they are just a lot quieter about it... peacock vs peahen.

The fact is, there are only enough hours in the day for me to get through a certain finite number of women, or more accurately, sex acts, and provided I can find enough women willing to perform those sex acts with me, then everything else is surplus.

Once the supply of available women (or men if you are a woman etc) meets or exceeds the number you can reasonably meet, everything else is a surplus.

As soon as there is a surplus of anything, the value of each individual thing starts getting analysed in a qualitative sense and not a quantitative sense.

If I can't get enough women then anything even remotely female will do, once I can get enough then I can and will get picky, and excluding those with attributes I find less desirable.

ergo, if the commonly held fact that there are 957,351 men for every woman on here, two things would happen.

1/ men would be offering to fuck absolutely any woman, no offer refused, no matter what she wanted, what she looked like, where she was, etc etc etc.

2/ women would be getting so picky that they would be able to say things like "5 foot nine is too short, and 5 foot ten is too tall, biceps must be between x and y, IQ must be between a and b" and so on.

3/ no man on here would ever, ever, ever use the block function on any woman or couple.

Fact is, this is not the case, and it appears to me that much of the strife, and much of the forums threads, are down to the fact that people's perceptions of this "marketplace" demographically speaking do not match reality.

For example

A club that lets girls in free but charges men admission, knowing that a club full of girls will attract men, who will then buy the girls drinks, is a marketing and business strategy, it isn't a reflection on the demographics in that city, which will have slightly more females than males as per the general population.

Chances are the girls have an iphone, and the boys have an android, again, just because of a marketing and business strategy.

------------------------------

In many ways our profiles are a marketing strategy in a marketplace, which leads to three further observations.

1/ If YOUR marketing strategy is not producing the results YOU seek, then perhaps the problem lies in the marketing, not the perceived demographics, or perhaps the problem lies in the product itself, not the demographics, real or imagined.

2/ If YOUR marketing strategy is not to MY taste, then either that strategy is effective (keeping android buyers out of iphone stores) and I am not what you seek, or it is just bad marketing and is failing to attract those you seek as well as those you would avoid.

3/ if you labour under misconceptions, you could achieve a successful but bad marketing strategy, your iphone shop is attracting hundreds of customers a day, but almost none of them are after an iphone, they are looking for headphones, mp3 players, netbooks, you name it.

so if you are having issues with supply and demand, the problem isn't some imagined demographic slant against you, even if there are 10 men for every woman, there are more women on here than any one man could have time or energy to work his way through in a lifetime, so if the issue is not supply and demand, it can only be down to the product not being suitable for the market, or the marketing of the product not being effective.

===================================

The real lesson here is the mistake I see time and again and again and again...

"what do women want?"

By definition, any attempt to market yourself to ALL women on here will succeed only in marketing yourself badly to all women on here.

The successful tactic is to target selectively, and by definition exclude and even alienate many of the potential customers... alienating an android user never cost one single iphone sale, and in fact promoted fanboi brand loyalty with iphone users.

Don't ask what ALL women want, find out what some women want, and see if you are that thing, and you will find that there are more women available than you have practical time to meet.

Not getting any.

"

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By *iewMan  over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn


"FAB is like every other dating/sex place I have known since the rise of the net, in that the commonly held "fact" is that for every woman online there are several million men.

To some extent, in the early days, this was true, but certainly since the advent of the smartphone it certainly is not true, if anything more women are around than men, they are just a lot quieter about it... peacock vs peahen.

The fact is, there are only enough hours in the day for me to get through a certain finite number of women, or more accurately, sex acts, and provided I can find enough women willing to perform those sex acts with me, then everything else is surplus.

Once the supply of available women (or men if you are a woman etc) meets or exceeds the number you can reasonably meet, everything else is a surplus.

As soon as there is a surplus of anything, the value of each individual thing starts getting analysed in a qualitative sense and not a quantitative sense.

If I can't get enough women then anything even remotely female will do, once I can get enough then I can and will get picky, and excluding those with attributes I find less desirable.

ergo, if the commonly held fact that there are 957,351 men for every woman on here, two things would happen.

1/ men would be offering to fuck absolutely any woman, no offer refused, no matter what she wanted, what she looked like, where she was, etc etc etc.

2/ women would be getting so picky that they would be able to say things like "5 foot nine is too short, and 5 foot ten is too tall, biceps must be between x and y, IQ must be between a and b" and so on.

3/ no man on here would ever, ever, ever use the block function on any woman or couple.

Fact is, this is not the case, and it appears to me that much of the strife, and much of the forums threads, are down to the fact that people's perceptions of this "marketplace" demographically speaking do not match reality.

For example

A club that lets girls in free but charges men admission, knowing that a club full of girls will attract men, who will then buy the girls drinks, is a marketing and business strategy, it isn't a reflection on the demographics in that city, which will have slightly more females than males as per the general population.

Chances are the girls have an iphone, and the boys have an android, again, just because of a marketing and business strategy.

------------------------------

In many ways our profiles are a marketing strategy in a marketplace, which leads to three further observations.

1/ If YOUR marketing strategy is not producing the results YOU seek, then perhaps the problem lies in the marketing, not the perceived demographics, or perhaps the problem lies in the product itself, not the demographics, real or imagined.

2/ If YOUR marketing strategy is not to MY taste, then either that strategy is effective (keeping android buyers out of iphone stores) and I am not what you seek, or it is just bad marketing and is failing to attract those you seek as well as those you would avoid.

3/ if you labour under misconceptions, you could achieve a successful but bad marketing strategy, your iphone shop is attracting hundreds of customers a day, but almost none of them are after an iphone, they are looking for headphones, mp3 players, netbooks, you name it.

so if you are having issues with supply and demand, the problem isn't some imagined demographic slant against you, even if there are 10 men for every woman, there are more women on here than any one man could have time or energy to work his way through in a lifetime, so if the issue is not supply and demand, it can only be down to the product not being suitable for the market, or the marketing of the product not being effective.

===================================

The real lesson here is the mistake I see time and again and again and again...

"what do women want?"

By definition, any attempt to market yourself to ALL women on here will succeed only in marketing yourself badly to all women on here.

The successful tactic is to target selectively, and by definition exclude and even alienate many of the potential customers... alienating an android user never cost one single iphone sale, and in fact promoted fanboi brand loyalty with iphone users.

Don't ask what ALL women want, find out what some women want, and see if you are that thing, and you will find that there are more women available than you have practical time to meet.

"

does this mean I am getting my hole or not ?

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